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KB Home

Q12022

3/23/2022

speaker
Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Alex and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the KB Home 2022 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the company's opening remarks, we will open the lines for questions. Today's conference call is being recorded and will be available for replay at the company's website, kbhome.com, through April 23rd. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Jill Peters, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Jill, you may begin.

speaker
Alex

Thank you, Alex. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to review our results for the first quarter of fiscal 2022. On the call are Jeff Mesger, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Rob McGibney, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, Jeff Kaminsky, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Bill Hollinger, Senior Vice President and Chief Accounting Officer, and Thad Johnson, Senior Vice President and Treasurer. During this call, items will be discussed that are considered forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are not guarantees of future results and the company does not undertake any obligation to update them. Due to various factors, including those detailed in today's press release and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, actual results could be materially different from those stated or implied in the forward-looking statements. In addition, a reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures referenced during today's discussion to their most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in today's press release and or on the investor relations page of our website at kbhome.com. And with that, let me turn the call over to Jeff Mezger.

speaker
Alex

Thank you, Jill. Good afternoon, everyone. We delivered solid results in our first quarter that drove year-over-year growth in many key metrics, including revenues, operating margin, and diluted earnings per share. Our revenues were up 23%, and we produced significant margin expansion, increasing our operating margin to over 12%. We overcame the impact from lower than expected deliveries, which I will address momentarily, to drive a 44% increase in our diluted earnings per share to $1.47. With our backlog value expanding 55% year-over-year to $5.7 billion, its highest level in 15 years, we have sold almost all the homes we need to achieve our projected $7.4 billion in revenues. We continue to focus on managing to our construction capabilities by aligning our sales to our starts. Over the past 12 months, we have started roughly 16,800 homes. We have 46% more homes in production at the beginning of the second quarter relative to the prior year, and with these homes being further along in their construction cycle, we believe we are well-positioned to achieve our guidance this year. Market conditions are strong, and along with our expected growth in community count throughout the remainder of the year, we believe we have the foundation in place to drive further scale and profitability growth in 2022 and beyond. I want to provide some context for our shortfall in deliveries. Then I will ask Rob to go a little deeper into the discussion. The guidance that we provided in January assumed that we would at least hold fourth quarter cycle times. While we were not counting on relief from the supply chain challenges, neither did we expect that they would worsen. We underestimated the degree to which the Omicron variant would exacerbate an already constrained supply chain and workforce across our trade partners, municipalities, utility companies, and even our own employees. While we take responsibility for our deliveries being below our prior expectations, at the same time, we acknowledge that the variant was a significant contributing factor. In the last six weeks of our first quarter, we lost approximately two weeks in our construction cycle, primarily in the finishing stages, while our foundation and frame segments held to the fourth quarter's timelines. At a run rate of about 250 deliveries per week, this two-week extension in build times was meaningful. Our team has adapted to the changing conditions, re-sequencing construction when necessary. We continue to be proactive to the extent possible to mitigate the impact of these issues going forward and are committed to regaining our previous construction efficiency over time. Let me turn it over to Rob to share some details. Rob?

speaker
Jill

Thank you, Jeff. In addition to the strain on the labor base that affected both our contractors and our own employees, there were several issues with respect to the availability of materials during the first quarter. And I will begin by sharing a couple of specific examples with you. Flexible ductwork, which is used in the heating and air conditioning, is in limited supply due to the lack of stainless steel, a primary component used in its manufacturing. We experienced shortages of flex duct in most of our divisions during the first quarter, and our field teams found effective solutions to progress the construction of homes while waiting for this product, albeit at a slower pace, as the mechanical trim and other components of a home cannot be finished until the flex duct is installed. We are beginning to see improvement in the availability of flex duct, although our teams are not depending on relief in this area to achieve their current delivery forecasts. Appliance manufacturers have not increased their production capacity to satisfy demand. This was compounded in the first quarter by a shortage of double ovens due to a retooling process required to meet a change in federal regulation. In January, we were notified by our supplier that we would be short hundreds of ovens for homes that were scheduled for delivery in the first quarter. Our divisions moved quickly to identify workarounds, including purchasing ovens directly from retailers where available we were able to cover most of the shortfall this retooling issue appears to be a one-time event and we expect the supply of double ovens to improve in the near term garage doors windows cabinets hvac equipment and siding all remain constrained within the supply chain however we have identified alternate suppliers to supplement many of our product needs with comparable items And in some cases, we are ordering items well in advance of starting homes to mitigate delays, as lead times have extended significantly. Our teams were creative in developing workarounds as issues emerged, and we quickly implemented these practices across our divisions. We have also improved our visibility as to how homes are tracking through each stage of the build cycle and the daily run rate we need within each of those stages to achieve our plan, which improves our ability to both forecast and execute. We expect shortages of materials will stay with us throughout this year, and we will continue to aggressively address any new issues that arise. Over the years, we have taken great pride in our build times and the predictability of our centralized scheduling system. We've had to temporarily adjust our reliance on this system to include more manual processes due to the lack of predictability in getting materials delivered. While the supply chain issues are preventing us from returning to our historical build times in the short term, we are committed to restoring those levels longer term. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jeff.

speaker
Alex

Thanks, Rob. Our biggest challenge today is completing homes, not selling them, as demand continues to be robust. Favorable demographics provide an important tailwind as the largest subset of millennials is nearing the peak age for first-time home ownership, and the oldest of the Gen Zs are entering their home buying years. In addition to demographics, employment and wage growth have both continued to improve, and the shift to working from home is another factor supporting demand. On the supply side, retail inventory remains very limited at 1.7 months, and supply chain challenges have hampered the industry's efforts to catch up on the production of new homes. At 6.6 net orders per community, our monthly absorption rate was seasonally very strong in the first quarter, up from 6.4 in last year's first quarter, even as we continued to implement price increases across the vast majority of our communities, and interest rates began to rise. Of particular note is our West Coast region performance, where a healthy increase in our pace and the highest growth in our net order value illustrate the strength of our business in California, both inland and along the coast. Our pricing power is strong, while our pace is solid, and we continue to work toward optimizing each asset. Our order rates speak to the magnitude of demand and also signals that our price points are still attainable. In addition to base price increases, we are capturing higher lot premiums and studio revenues was taken together, contributed to a 15% rise in our net order value to 2.2 billion. Net orders in the first quarter were 4,210, down slightly versus the prior year. We are pleased with this outcome, given the difficult comparison to the year-over-quarter and in outperforming the projection that we shared in January. Our net orders increased sequentially each month and we exited the quarter strong, underlying our view that the spring selling season will be robust. In this environment of ongoing strength and market conditions, we are continuing to experience a more rapid pace of communities selling out. Our ability to replace these communities and then grow our community count requires ongoing investment through a disciplined process. With an owned lot position of over 51,000 lots, and control of an additional 37,000 lots, we have what we need to drive the higher volumes that we expect in 2022 and 2023. We adhere to consistent underwriting criteria, targeting the median household income and assuming an absorption pace per community of between four and six per month, depending on the specifics of the investment. Utilizing current selling prices and construction costs, focusing on communities that provide a two- to three-year lot supply, and staying geographically close to where we currently operate. Affordability for our homes remains reasonable as the key measures that we track for signs of affordability pressures remain consistent with historical levels. One of the most important of these is the credit profile of our buyers. About two-thirds of our buyers qualified for a conventional mortgage And loan-to-value ratios are stable at 85%, which translates to an average down payment of over $70,000. In addition, our buyers average FICO score in the quarter held at all-time highs of 732. Given that our buyers are well-qualified, they have room to adjust if they need to in the type of mortgage product they choose or in their personalization selection in our bill-to-order model. Our buyers can rotate to a smaller square footage home at a lower price, and this choice provides an added layer of flexibility, which is key if affordability becomes stretched. We ended the quarter with a backlog of nearly 11,900 homes at a value of $5.7 billion, up 55%. As I noted earlier, almost all the homes that we need to achieve our delivery and margin expectations for the year are already in backlog and our cancellation rate after start of 5% remains well below historical levels. Our backlog reflects committed buyers with loan approvals on their personalized homes and they generally are closing upon completion. Before I conclude my comments, I would like to thank the entire KB Home team for their tireless efforts and dedication to serving our homebuyers. I would also like to recognize and thank Matt Mandino for his years of leadership and many contributions, as well as to congratulate him on his retirement. Although we acknowledge we are operating in a time of changing dynamics given geopolitical issues, inflationary pressures, rising interest rates, and the fluid nature of COVID-19, we also recognize the health and resilience of the housing market. We are primed to deliver meaningful returns-focused growth in 2022, with an expectation of expanding our scale to $7.4 billion and increasing our operating margin above 16%, which would drive a return on equity of over 27%. We look forward to updating you as the year progresses. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Jeff for the financial review.

speaker
Rob

Jeff? Thank you, Jeff, and good afternoon, everyone. I will now cover highlights of our 2022 first quarter financial performance, as well as provide our second quarter and full year outlook. We are pleased that despite increasing supply chain challenges during the back half of the first quarter, we generated a meaningful increase in our housing revenues, which, combined with an improved operating margin, drove 44% growth in our diluted earnings per share compared to the prior year quarter. In addition, sustained strong net order absorption during the quarter, along with our substantial beginning backlog, produced a 55% year-over-year increase in our quarter end backlog, supporting our revenue and margin outlook for 2022. In the first quarter, our housing revenues of $1.39 billion rose 23% from a year ago, driven entirely by a 22% rise in the overall average selling price of homes delivered, as the number of homes delivered was about even with the year earlier quarter. Reflecting the broad strength of our operations and the overall housing market, housing revenues were up significantly across all four of our regions, with increases ranging from 12% in the southwest region to 36% in the southeast. Looking ahead to the 2022 second quarter, we expect to generate housing revenues in the range of $1.55 to $1.65 billion. For the full year, we are reaffirming our housing revenue range of $7.2 to $7.6 billion, assuming no change in supply chain conditions during the remaining quarters of the year. We believe we are well positioned to achieve this top line performance, supported by our first quarter ending backlog value of approximately $5.7 billion and our expectation of continued favorable housing market conditions. In the first quarter, our overall average selling price of homes delivered expanded 22% year-over-year to approximately $486,000, reflecting increases across the business ranging from 16% in our Southwest region to 24% in our West Coast region. For the 2022 second quarter, we are projecting an average selling price of approximately $490,000. We believe our overall average selling price for the full year will be in a range of $490,000 to $500,000. Home building operating income for the first quarter grew 49% to $169.6 million from $114.1 million for the year earlier quarter. The current quarter included nominal inventory-related charges, versus $4.1 million a year ago. Our home building operating income margin improved to 12.2% compared to 10.0% for the 2021 first quarter. Excluding inventory-related charges, our operating margin for the current quarter increased 180 basis points year-over-year, reflecting improvements in both our gross margin and SG&A expense ratio, which I will cover in more detail in a moment. For the 2022 second quarter, we anticipate our home building operating income margin, excluding the impact of any inventory related charges, will be in a range of 14.3 to 14.7%. For the full year, we expect this metric to be in a range of 16.0 to 16.6%, which represents an improvement of 450 basis points at the midpoint as compared to the prior year and a slight increase from our prior guidance. Reflecting our strategy of balancing pace and price to drive higher returns, our 2022 first quarter housing gross profit margin improved 160 basis points to 22.4%. Excluding inventory-related charges, our gross margin expanded by 130 basis points from 21.1% for the prior year quarter. This improvement reflected the favorable impact of higher selling prices outpacing construction cost inflation particularly elevated lumber prices and lower amortization of previously capitalized interest, partially offset by greater expenses to support our current operations and expected growth. Assuming no inventory related charges, we are forecasting a housing gross profit margin for the 2022 second quarter in the range of 24.4 to 25.0%. We anticipate significant sequential expansion in quarterly gross margin during 2022 mainly driven by price increases that have outpaced cost pressures in our established communities, strong selling margins in recently open communities, and an expected reduction in amortization of previously capitalized interest. We expect our four-year gross margin, excluding inventory-related charges, to be in the range of 25.5% to 26.3%, up 410 basis points at the midpoint year-over-year. Our selling general and administrative expense ratio of 10.2% for the first quarter improved 50 basis points from a year ago, mainly due to operating leverage from higher housing revenues, partially offset by higher costs associated with resources to support growth. We are forecasting our 2022 second quarter SG&A ratio to be in a range of 10.0% to 10.5% and expect that our full year SG&A expense ratio will be approximately 9.2% to 9.8%, which represents an improvement of 60 basis points at the midpoint compared to the prior year. Our income tax expense of $43.8 million for the first quarter represented an effective tax rate of approximately 25%, which increased from roughly 21% in the year earlier quarter largely due to the expiration of federal tax credits for building energy-efficient homes. We continue to expect our effective tax rate for both the 2022 second quarter and full year to be approximately 25%, assuming the tax credit is not extended. Overall, we reported net income of $134.3 million, or $1.47 per diluted share for the first quarter, compared to $97.1 million or $1.02 per diluted share for the prior year period. Turning out a community count, our first quarter average of 213 was down 4% from the corresponding 2021 quarter, primarily due to strong net order activity driving accelerated sellouts of communities over the past 12 months. We ended the quarter with 208 communities, essentially even from a year ago. We believe our first quarter We believe our first quarter end community count represents a low point for the year as grand openings are expected to outpace sellouts during each of the remaining quarters. We expect this dynamic to result in a small sequential increase by the end of the second quarter and low to mid single digit percentage growth year over year in the second quarter average community count. We believe we are well positioned for the spring selling season with a growing portfolio of attractive communities across the country. We now expect continued favorable market conditions to drive higher current year net orders and year-end backlog as compared to our prior expectation, resulting in additional community sellouts during the remainder of the year. We continue to anticipate sequential increases in ending community count for each of the remaining quarters and approximately 255 open selling communities at year end. Given current housing market conditions, our land pipeline, and schedule of new community openings, we are confident that we will achieve expansion of our community count to support future market share gains and growth in housing revenues. During the first quarter, to drive future community openings, we invested $705 million in land and land development, including a 33% year-over-year increase in land acquisition investments to $366 million. In January 2022, Standard & Poor's Financial Services reaffirmed our BB credit rating and changed its rating outlook to positive from stable. In February, we completed an amendment to our unsecured revolving credit facility, increasing its firing capacity by $290 million to $1.09 billion and extending its maturity to February, 2027. This upsize in term extension supports our strategy to operate the business with a more efficient level of cash as we continue to drive returns-focused growth. Under the new credit facility, we had $250 million outstanding at the end of the first quarter and expect to end our 2022 fiscal year with no borrowings outstanding. At quarter end, total liquidity was approximately $1.07 billion, including $831 million of available capacity under the unsecured revolving credit facility. Our quarter end stockholders' equity was $3.13 billion, and our book value per share increased 18% year-over-year to $35.37. Given our current backlog, community opening plans, and the expected continued strength in the housing market, we are confident that we will generate meaningful year-over-year improvements in our key 2022 financial metrics. We plan to continue to execute on the principles of our return-focused growth strategy with an emphasis on improving our returns by increasing our community count and top line while producing further growth in our operating margin. In summary, for the 2022 full year, Using the midpoints of our guidance ranges, we expect a 30 percent year-over-year increase in housing revenues and a 450 basis point expansion of our operating margin to 16.3 percent, driven by improvements in both gross margin and our SG&A expense ratio. These anticipated results would, in turn, drive a substantially higher year-end book value per share and a return on equity of over 27% up in excess of 700 basis points from 19.9% in 2021. We will now take your questions. Alex, please open the lines.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tool will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. We ask that you please limit to one question and one follow-up. Our first question comes from the line of John Lovallo with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

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John Lovallo

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. You know, maybe the first one, it sounds like you haven't seen any experienced any slowing in demand in any of your markets yet. But I'm curious, do you anticipate some moderation given interest rates? Where would you think that you'd see that first? And has there been any incremental use of adjustable rate mortgages in five to seven year arms that you've seen?

speaker
Alex

John, as I shared in the prepared comments, the buyer profile is very strong in our business today. And I think it's in part the The locations that we're operating in, and it's in part the demographics I touched on, and it's a very strong credit profile buyer. So far, and rates have moved, but so far we're not seeing any evidence of a shift in product type. We're not seeing any stress on the borrower's ability to qualify for a loan. They're not having to do anything other than make a loan up and get their approval. when you put it in the context of no houses available and the strong demographics, I think we're, we're catering to a higher tier for the first time buyers or the first move up buyers where it's a strong mix of buyers. So we're seeing no change in behavior so far. We all have a crystal ball on what will happen if rates keep rising, but so far we're seeing no sign of things slowing down.

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John Lovallo

Okay. That's encouraging. And you know, Just given that bullish outlook, your stock's trading at 20%, 25% discount to book. Why aren't you guys going in and buying a ton of stock?

speaker
Alex

For starters, as we always share, we take a balanced approach to our capital allocation strategy. First and foremost for us is to continue to profitably grow the company and improve our returns. And if you sort through the various metrics that Jeff shared in his commentary, we're going to be creating an incredible value in this company this year, whether it's the return on equity or the growth in book value. And that's job one for us. In the past, we've talked about returns-focused growth and improving our debt ratios. We think we've now done that, and our ratio is going to continue to improve through equity growth, and we don't see the need for a lot of debt reduction. We're still generating operating cash, and in addition to investing in future growth, if you look back at 21, we paid dividends, and we also did retire some outstanding stock. So we'll continue to navigate based on our operating needs, what's our excess cash, what's the state of play in the market like we've always done, and continue to have a balanced approach. I don't know if you want to add anything.

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Rob

No, I think that's pretty much everything. Okay.

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John Lovallo

Okay, thank you guys.

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Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Truman Patterson with Wolf Research. Please proceed with your question.

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Truman Patterson

Hey, good afternoon everyone. Just want to follow up on John's first question there. Dig in a little deeper, but you know, rates have clearly moved higher in March. And we generally think of, you know, California is the most affordability constraint, constrained state in the nation. New home sales today, February sales fell in the West. You all had orders down about 6%. I'm hoping that you can dig into color in California, either, you know, sub market, you know, Northern, Southern, et cetera, on current March demand. in traffic in the state. It sounds like as of now, you are not seeing any sort of pushback. Is that correct?

speaker
Alex

That's correct, Truman. If you think of California, highest price point, so obviously it's the most affordably constrained market, but it's also the most supply-challenged market of any of the states. So again, you have demand far in excess of supply, and Because it's a land constrained environment, you can't replace your communities as easily. We'll tilt more to price over pace. And I think when you look at our order value, it reflects that. We're not letting the communities run hot. We're going for price and taking advantage of the opportunity because you can't replace the community. If you look at the actual sales, I think it was community count driven more than anything else. Our absorption rates were very strong. And I would say that the coastal areas, the urban coastal areas, are every bit as strong as the more inland areas. Both sides are working very well today.

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Truman Patterson

Okay. Thank you for that. And then could you help us think through your order versus starts cadence? You know, generally at the community level, how quickly do you get the home started after the buyer signs the contract? And generally speaking, how long do you have just costs locked in for with that start?

speaker
Alex

Rob, as the operator expert on the call, you want to take that one?

speaker
Jill

Sure, yeah. So, Truman... Yeah, it depends on the division. Sometimes it depends on the product. But typically, we're getting that home started on a built-to-order sale between 30 and 60 days. And generally, when that house starts, our costs are locked. Over the past year, there's been a minor amount of exposure to lumber and a few other things. But generally, at or shortly after the start, we're locked on that.

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Truman

So the majority of our backlog is locked down on the cost side.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alan Ratner with Bellman & Associates. Please proceed with your question.

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Alan Ratner

Hey guys, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. So the last couple of days I've seen popping up on a few builder websites some incentives related to closing costs and kind of rate lock periods. I'm sure a lot of this is marketing, and it's probably not very widespread at this point, but I'm just curious in terms of your backlog and kind of your margin outlook for the rest of the year. Are you guys baking in any conservatism around potentially having to fund some closing costs for maybe skittish buyers and backlog that might be reluctant to move forward if rates continue on the upward trajectory they're on right now?

speaker
Alex

Actually, Alan, year over year, our closing costs were downward. As you know, we don't do a lot of incentives at all in our business model, and so our closing costs were down a tenth or two. But if you put it in the context of our average buyer is putting $70,000 down, paying $1,000 or $2,000 of closing costs doesn't really move the needle. Rob, I don't know if you're hearing any color in the field on the incentive game or others moving houses through closing costs. I'm not hearing it right now.

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Jill

No, Jeff, I'm not either. You know, the demand just continues to be so far ahead of supply that I don't think we, you know, we certainly haven't gone there.

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Alan Ratner

Great. Okay. No, it's good to hear. You know, second, I think, you know, you gave a data point last quarter that you kind of analyzed your backlog and a one point increase in rates, you know, really wouldn't have any impact on them. And, you know, here we are one point higher and that seems to certainly be the case. Do you have an updated analysis on that, just kind of where, you know, if and when that would become problematic for the buyers that you currently have in backlog right now? I know you cite the FICO scores and the overall health of the buyer, but I would imagine at some point there's got to be an inflection where, you know, the monthly payment gets prohibitive.

speaker
Alex

Yeah. Well, Alan, I'll let Rob Amsack, who's been working directly with our JV people at KDHS, but if... If you look at our buyer profile and what I shared in the prepared comments, buyers haven't moved to arms at all. It's a fixed-rate loan. It's heavily conventional. And the rate goes up, and they still qualify, and they want to be a homeowner, so they buy the house. So when you say if rates go up a point, what does it do to qualify? First, buyers will either put more down or go to an adjustable-rate mortgage. They still want to be a homeowner. And there's still no inventory out there. So I don't think we're anywhere near a stress point because of rates going up the way a lot of the media is hammering it right now. But, Rob, do you want to walk them through the details on the rate increase and what it would do? Sure.

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Jill

Yeah, you know, I mean, obviously rate increases have some level of impact, but, you know – We're qualifying buyers at the new rates every day, and while qualification has become more challenging for some of the buyers, I think the strength of the market, especially in our operating footprint, has allowed us to continue achieving our sales targets, even while we're lifting price, too. It's a situation where if one buyer doesn't qualify, there are more buyers lined up behind them to step in. And, you know, as far as the stress testing that we do with our backlog and just based on the strong financial position that Jeff mentioned earlier that our buyers have, we, you know, I don't have a number for you, but we think we would see minimal fallout if the rate increases or gradual. And, you know, as buyers were just likely to adjust and pay down debt or they obtain a co-borrower or they select a different loan program. Or with our business model, they can simply spend less in the studio or shift to a smaller, lower priced home.

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Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Rehart with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

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Mike Rehart

Thanks. Good afternoon, everyone. My first question, I guess, just kind of looking at the trajectory of gross margins, which You know, effectively, you've kind of reiterated as you look into the back half of the year. You know, if I'm interpreting it right, I mean, obviously, you're effectively reiterating it. I think you raised it by 10 basis points. You know, just trying to get a sense of some of the moving pieces, because obviously, you know, you most likely incurred some additional costs, right? as you still have some supply chain issues impacting the business. At the same time, you know, it looks like you're, you know, continuing to execute price. So, you know, is it safe to say that, you know, in terms of thinking of the different moving pieces that, you know, in effect, you know, costs continue to go up and you're just able to continue to offset that with price and obviously your full year ASP up 10 grand. is kind of proof positive of that. Is that the right way to think about that?

speaker
Rob

Yes, Mike, it is. And that's a primary factor, right? What's happening on the selling price side relative to costs. And we've been dealing with that as a company, as an industry now for a couple of years. So it's been a really positive dynamic for us actually at the end of the day. But it's the same factors we've been seeing that's driving improved margins. And There really hasn't been much change in the outlook from last quarter on full-year margins, other than cost moved probably a little bit more than we thought, but price also moved, based on your observation, which is accurate, that DSV is up a little bit. The other things we're seeing, we're seeing really strong performance out of our recently opened communities. It's been very pleasing to see a vast majority, almost all of them, opening at above land book levels and with really strong gross margins that are actually incremental to the whole. And as those start delivering out in the back half of the year, we'll start seeing some advantages of that running through the P&L. Interest amortization has been a long-term trend for us of improvement that's continuing. And something I didn't actually mention in the script, but I think there's a pretty good potential for us to pick up on a little bit of additional leverage on our fixed costs and gross margin. Again, predominantly, well, really starting in the second quarter, running right through the end of the year. So a lot of good positives and nice positive momentum and really just a continuation of the trend that we've seen that's given us the margin lift that we're seeing in 22 relative to 21 and the same thing in 21 relative to 20.

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Truman

So continuation there, we're very pleased about it. Great.

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Mike Rehart

Great. Thanks for that, Jeff. I guess, secondly, you know, there's been some talk recently about, you know, trying to triangulate how much of current demand that's out there is, you know, from a primary buyer versus a either, you know, in effect, an investor. You know, there's obviously, you know, aside from individual investors, you have the entire kind of single-family rental operator and build-to-rent operators that are out there. But, you know, I guess more just on a micro level, you know, can you give us a sense, you know, today versus perhaps a year ago or two years ago, you know, what percent of your buyers are, you know, owner-occupied, you know, type purchases versus, you know, investors that, you know, would be renting out the property?

speaker
Alex

Mike, maybe Rob has that number. I don't because we do not really promote investor activity. We definitely aren't selling to the single-family-for-rent people, and I think the vast majority of our buyers have been and continue to be owner-occupied as people who want a house for their family and want to live in that neighborhood. Rob, as you track the deliveries, do you get the data on what percent is investor? Do you have any?

speaker
Jill

No. No, Jeff, I don't have a data point on that, but just from working with the operators and the regional teams, it's very limited. Not having a number, I hesitate to put one out there, but I'd say it's low single digits where we've got investor sales.

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Truman

It's generally all owner-occupied.

speaker
spk13

Thank you.

speaker
Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Stephen Kim with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

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Stephen Kim

Yeah, thanks a lot, guys. Appreciate it. I guess my first question relates to your land positioning. I was curious if you could give us a sense for what percent of the land that you took ownership of this quarter was through options, exercising options versus just buying it out in the open market. And if you had to take a stab at what percent of your land that you currently own, reflects pricing from, you know, let's say, you know, early to mid-2020, you know, what percent would you say of the land that you own, you know, meets that kind of criteria?

speaker
Rob

Yeah, pretty specific questions as far as dissecting the land portfolio. You know, I would say, you know, in the first question, most of the land that we end up taking down at some point is an option, right? So, you know, you're at some point optioning up land on, refundable deposits and gone through due diligence and that type of activity. And, you know, I'd say pretty much all of our land at one point in time was an option. If you're talking, you know, just pure rolling option, quarterly takes, you know, it's a relatively low percentage because those type deals have, I wouldn't say all, pretty much all of it disappeared in this tight land market right now. So that's sort of the condition on that. When you look at our land portfolio and the churn that we're seeing in communities, specifically in communities, we do tend to turn, you know, half to two-thirds of our communities every year. And you start getting more and more current on your land. When you're looking out to third and fourth quarter deliveries, a lot of that land was actually locked up and prices were locked in in 2020. There were some deferred land closings in 2020, so it was actually even a little bit longer on the tail of that vintage, if you will, land, where after the pandemic first hit, we went in and just kicked out a lot of the closings, and sellers were pretty cooperative, and we feel we had really a good business relationship and good partnerships with a lot of those sellers and allowed us to you know, take a little bit of uncertainty out of the outlook and all that before we close on the land. So we're still operating the business, though, with some of the newer communities coming in. We're not really 2020 marks. So the margins are still holding. We're seeing upward trajectory on margins. You know, we're looking at exiting 2022 at a very, very healthy margin rate that we think will carry into 2023. And, you know, we're, I'd say, you know, quite a way away from seeing really high land prices running through the P&L. And at the same time, I think it's also important to point out that, you know, as land has appreciated value, selling prices have moved quite significantly and are actually staying ahead of those land price inflations. So we think there's some runway ahead of us for a good, solid gross margin performance out in the future.

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Stephen Kim

Yeah, thanks, Jeff. So what I heard from you, which I thought was interesting, was that you sort of suggested there were factors at play in early 2020 such that, you know, the land you may even have bought in mid-2020 or maybe even as late as the third quarter reflected, you know, very much pre-pandemic kind of price.

speaker
Rob

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. The bulk of those purchases through the back half of 21, even into early or back half of 20, excuse me, even into early 2021, reflected some land prices that were locked up quite a bit earlier, in many cases, pre-pandemic. And don't forget, you know, prices didn't start moving immediately after COVID came out either. You know, it took a few months for things to settle. And I would say, you know, that real severe land price inflation, you didn't start seeing until the back half of 20. But we're, you know, overall, just, you know, we're... We're in great shape on the land portfolio, really happy with the margins kicking off, super happy with the performance of new communities, and seeing some runway out of this on that.

speaker
Stephen Kim

Yeah, no, that's great. I appreciate that. My second question relates to what I guess I would characterize as a bit of a dislocation between or a significant disagreement between Between the way you see your future business prospects and the way the market seems to be valuing your stock, John earlier sort of alluded to the question about buybacks, whether or not this would be a good time to be stepping in a little bit more aggressively. And I think the answer was that, look, there's opportunities to grow the business. And I think you've laid out a very compelling case that there's reasons to think that demand is going to be strong and you're in a good position to capture that. But by the same token, it does also seem that if that is correct and that proves to be correct, that the way the market is valuing your shares is probably demonstrating the biggest gap versus your perception or your perspective than we've almost ever seen. And because you have done a pretty good job bringing your leverage down to the level it's at and the likelihood that it will be even lower by year-end, I'm curious if you could talk a little bit more about weighing the competing incentives of growing the company versus taking advantage of a mispricing that the market has provided. How do you think about that at a high level sort of philosophically?

speaker
Rob

It's an interesting question. I think there's a lot of factors that go into it. The primary factor is of where we're heading and how best to build long-term value for our shareholders. And, you know, growth is a very important factor. We want to maintain scale. We've been fighting hard for a number of years to regrow this company and really get ahead of the curve on community account growth and top line. And it's paying off in a big way right now with the metrics. We definitely believe, you know, keep putting points on the scoreboards. And sooner or later, the market will recognize that on the one hand. On the other hand, we have not been afraid in the past to go in and make opportunistic buybacks when we did feel there was a large dislocation. At the same time, you know, we're not going to debate it on an open conference call of timing and when we do something like that. But we are constantly aware of it and it's constantly discussed. And we've made several moves on that over the past few years. I think I'd probably just leave it at that for now, but it's obviously a focus point for us. Honestly, it's hard to even explain the dislocation that we're seeing right now with how well the business is doing. When I look at the metrics and where we've taken this company to, it's discouraging at times to see it, but also at the same time, I know we're playing a long-term game and We're continuing to grow the value and strengthen the company, and we're pretty happy with that and proud of that.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Boulay with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.

speaker
Matthew Boulay

Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for taking the questions. So on the affordability topic, I know you mentioned your measures of affordability have been consistent, you know, home sizes and upgrades and all that. And then obviously buyers have sort of their own flexibility with your bill-to-order model as well. But just thinking about kind of a go-forward view, I think of late 2018, you know, where, for example, you introduced the smaller square footage plan to kind of get ahead of that rate increase at the time. I guess today, are there any other proactive steps that you can take with your product to, again, sort of get ahead of what could happen here in a higher rate scenario.

speaker
Alex

Thank you. Matt, we're constantly mindful of household incomes, and it is a math equation. People can only afford so much, and it's the combo of supply and demand and affordability. So we get that. In a lot of markets, we've moved to smaller lots, more townhomes, done things like that to keep the prices down and attainable by the median household incomes. While we went through that exercise and moved very quickly in the past with our product, as we had it rolled out, we had built new models, were presented to the market. Lo and behold, interest rates came back down. And so it is out there, and it's a strategy that demonstrates how quickly we can move. And then we really didn't need it at the time and haven't needed it since. The good news is all those products are completed on the shelf, And if we have to quickly roll out smaller models and reset our pricing in a community, we can do that in relatively short order. So it's all out there still. And I like the flexibility in our approach and how the buyer can choose less things in the studio. They can pick a lot with a lower lot premium. They can pick a smaller home at a lower price point. Or they can change whatever mortgage instrument they decide on to acquire their own. All those things moving together, there's a lot of flexibility for the consumer and for us right now. So we think we're positioned well if rates were to continue to run.

speaker
Matthew Boulay

Got it. No, thank you for that, Jeff. Second one, I guess following up on the gross margin side, just kind of zooming into the cadence here. So I'm just curious, given what you've guided for Q2 and sort of doing the math into the second half, I'm wondering if, you know, from an exit rate perspective, maybe Jeff Kay, this one's for you, if you've kind of drifted to, you know, north of 28 in Q4, just now with a little bit better visibility, or just how we should kind of think about that second half cadence that you're implying. Thank you.

speaker
Rob

Sure. Yeah, so starting with the second quarter guides, 24-4 to 25-0, you know, we usually don't get too detailed on the back half or quarterly, but, you know, obviously if you just do the math, third quarter is going to be about 26%, and fourth quarter will certainly be about 27% as we see it today. That'll give us close to about a 26% average for the year, 25.9% at the midpoint. And, you know, that would be a pretty nice exit rate for us. We'd be very pleased to see that come through. Keep in mind, you know, when you look at those margin numbers, the vast majority of the dollars that we plan to close and the homes that we plan to close by the end of the year, the dollars that will turn into revenue are in backlog today. So it's really not hypothetical. It's really not, you know, boy, what will the selling price be in this new community or that community? those homes are actually in backlog in supporting those margin levels. So it's a really nice trend and, you know, we've seen very strong predictability on the margins for the past couple of years.

speaker
Truman

So we're excited to see it.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Deepa Raghavan with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

speaker
Deepa Raghavan

Hey, Hal. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Just related to that gross margin question a little bit, did the peak lumber from last spring already hit your books and have you been benefiting this Q1 or are you still paying for the peak pricing from last spring and therefore what we would see in Q2 and Q3 will be the benefits once it went lower, but again, the recent lumber spike starts to hit at Q4. How does that lumber, you know, peak and valley hit your year.

speaker
Rob

Right. You just tried it pretty accurately. I mean, Q4 was a real heavy quarter for us on the peak lumber. We saw some of it bleed into Q1. It affected the margins a bit in the first quarter. We'll see some relief and some bounce back in the second and third quarters. We constantly update our costs and our backlogs, so anything that we're seeing with a home that starts on a higher lumber price that's baked into our cost profile. Over that same time period, obviously, selling prices have escalated quite a bit, and we even saw continued escalation in ability to increase price in the first quarter to a large degree, helping to offset that. But like I said, you described it. pretty accurately, Q4, Q1 heavy, Q2, Q3 some more relief, creeping back in a little bit in Q4, but pricing has moved as well to help offset it.

speaker
Deepa Raghavan

That's very helpful. Thanks for that. Staying just on the constraints, can you help us understand how the quarter progress with respect to labor constraints And the reason I ask is, you know, Omicron likely impacted your December quarter, maybe towards the tail end, a good chunk of January. But it looked like February was getting better. Just curious, what would explain the second half incremental challenges that you faced? And how has March so far played out, you know, with respect to those labor challenges? Thank you.

speaker
Jill

Rob, you want to take that? Sure, Jeff. I think the best way is to provide some perspective on the labor, both internal and outside of KB, is just through some of the numbers that we saw within our company. And through the fourth quarter and leading up to mid-January, we were seeing roughly 100 employees, KB employees, a month that were impacted in some way by COVID and were in a quarantine process. And then between mid-January and early February, that number spiked over 500 employees, or roughly a quarter of our workforce, our KB Home workforce. And we really felt the operational impact of that spike the most in the back half of the first quarter with employees out on quarantine. And the COVID exposures or cases were most prevalent in our field teams. And so we likely had over 30% of our construction employees staff impacted during that spike. And of course, you know, our trade partners, our suppliers, our inspectors, the utility crews, et cetera, they were also hit in a big way. And transitioning now, you know, that number tracking at a peak of over 500 in March, we're tracking numbers like 25 employees. So the Omicron variant impact was sudden. It hit in a hurry and then it was all gone quickly. But the impact to our construction in the back half of the quarter was real. And today we're seeing an improvement in both external labor and internal employee availability relative to what we saw in the back half of last quarter.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Susan McClary with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

speaker
Susan McClary

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. My first question is, you know, looking at the margins, you actually did a really nice job on the SG&A this quarter. You came in a little lower than what we'd expected. The guide implies some further incremental leverage as we move through the year. Can you talk to the potential to continue to see some improvement there? And, you know, if things do change, what is your ability to sustain some of this relative benefit that you've seen?

speaker
Rob

Right. We are expecting continued improvement in SG&A, particularly in the back half with higher housing revenue expectations. You know, we've, as you pointed out, you know, it's been a nice cadence. We are investing more in the business right now because we're in growth phase and, you know, we have community accounts increasing quite dramatically and really, really healthy absorption pace in the community. So, and supporting just the grand openings and the sheer number of grand openings. But, We definitely see a runway on that. We see definitely a single-digit SG&A number for the year and further potential to bring that down in the future as we've really, we believe by the end of this year we'll be at a new kind of scale level and be able to gain additional leverage benefits on the costs in the SG&A category.

speaker
Susan McClary

Okay, that's helpful. And then my second question is, you know, going back to the land market, you made the comment that you're staying geographically close as you're buying new parcels. But as you think about an environment where rates are rising, obviously home prices are going up as well. How do you think about the ability to strike the need to maintain affordability while still also staying geographically close and managing the risk on the land side? And I guess with that, are you seeing any signs that the industry overall is overstepping, overreaching at all on the land side? Do you think that everybody is staying fairly disciplined as it relates to that? Any signs that we're sort of getting closer maybe to some of the behaviors or activity that we saw in the last cycle? Or has it been pretty measured as you think about the growth that everyone is targeting and looking for over the next couple of years?

speaker
Alex

I think measured is a good word. And In our case, we're very sensitive to not going out. My reference in our investment committee is go out where the road ends and the road ends because you're chasing a lower price point. We'd rather stay in the more desirable sub-markets and target the incomes in those sub-markets. It's a healthy tension with our land teams because there's more land available out in the lesser areas, but it's also where the market slows first if the market were to turn. So we stay in, I would call it the B to B minus ring, and really work with our divisions and our land search efforts to make sure that you're in more desirable submarkets. And it probably means it's a little smaller deal in lot count, and therefore you've got to find more of them. And it's a healthy tension with the teams. But we'd rather go that route than go out to the real exurbs

speaker
Truman

just for a pure price play.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's teleconference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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