KBR, Inc.

Hello and thank you for joining us on KBR's fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings conference call. The call will be starting in approximately two minutes time. During today's call, we will have a Q&A session. If you'd like to register a question during that time, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad and to withdraw your question is star followed by two. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone. Well, thank you for joining us for KBR's fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings conference call. My name is Drew and I'll be the operator on the call today. During the call, after the prepared remarks, we'll have a Q&A session. If you would like to ask a question during that time, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. And to withdraw your question, it's star followed by two. And as a reminder, we ask that you ask one question and one follow-up. With that, it's my pleasure to hand over to Rachel Goldway, Head of Investor Relations, to begin. Please go ahead when you're ready.

Rachel Goldway, Chief Financial Officer. Stuart and Shad will provide highlights from the quarter in full year and then open the call for your questions. Today's earnings presentation is available on the investor section of our website at KBR.com. This discussion includes forward-looking statements reflecting KBR's views about future events and their potential impact on performance, as outlined on slide two. These matters involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements, as discussed in the most recent Form 10-K available on our website. This discussion also includes non-GAAP financial measures that the company believes to be useful metrics for investors. The reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the nearest GAAP measure is included at the end of our earnings presentation. I will now turn the call over to Stuart.

Thank you, Rachel, and good morning, everyone. I will pick up on slide four. As we always do at KBR, I want to start with a brief zero-harm moment. In 2025, we delivered industry-leading safety performance with our TRIR reaching an all-time low of 0.033 and zero harm days reaching an all-time high at 96%. These results really reflect strong discipline and accountability across our operations. More importantly, we speak to the culture we've built inside KBR. We focus on creating an environment where people look out for one another, and where safety and wellbeing are part of how we operate every single day. That culture is especially important as we move through the spin, and it underpins the execution and results we'll walk through today. On to slide five. Today's call will cover these key topics. First, I'll start with how we delivered our strategy in 2025. From there, I'll touch on why we see improving momentum and visibility as we move into 2026 across both segments, including how the quality of our earnings continues to improve. That's really important. I'll provide an update on the spin itself. And finally, Chad will walk through our financial performance for the year and, of course, our guidance for 2026. On to slide six. and strategy. So as we enter the year, I want to start with a simple message. We executed our strategy in 2025, despite a very challenging award environment across both segments. We stayed disciplined, focused on what we can control, and made meaningful progress across each of our strategic pillars. Firstly, thrive and expand. In sustainable tech, we continue to expand globally, with particular momentum in the global south. And you've heard us say that before. We also made deliberate progress in growing our OPEX-facing businesses, both organically and inorganically. And this, of course, reduces our exposure to CAPEX cycles. The SWOT acquisition within our ground and group job venture, Briss, which closed in January, was a key milestone, more than doubling the EBITDA of that business. In Mission Tech, we continue to leverage contract vehicles, including recent Air Force and Space Force awards, which you'll have seen, while expanding internationally and strengthening our presence in Washington. And that's to deepen engagement with both the administration and the Pentagon. Second, to deliver innovation. Innovation remains central to our strategy. In sustainable tech, We launched Insight 3.0 this quarter through a new venture with Applied, enhancing operational performance across KBI-licensed ammonia plants using physics-based AI. We also continue to advance Mura and other technologies as a long-term growth platform. In Mission Tech, our focus on deepening customer relationships and advancing our technology roadmap is paying off. Recognition as a top 10 Australian defence contractor, the Novart Excellence Award from NASA, and the recent Golden Dome Shield seat all reflect this progress. Post-Linqvist, the establishment of a new Chief Technology Officer role and our digital design labs are strengthening our position as a true capability partner. Thirdly, Thrive Operational Excellence. Operational execution was a clear strength in 2025. We expanded margins by more than 100 basis points and generated operating cash flow with a conversion rate of 110%, delivering over $30 million in cost savings and expect this margin and cash performance momentum to continue into 2026. And finally, deploy capital effectively. We delivered $413 million in capital to shareholders in a year, and that's the highest in the last decade. Successfully integrated Lindquist and de-leveled the balance sheet within a year. As we prepare for the spin, we remain highly disciplined, ensuring both companies are positioned with appropriate capital structures from day one. With that context, let's come to our segment performance, starting with sustainable tech on slide seven. 2025 was a challenging year for sustainable tech, marked by a sharp decline in petrochemicals capex and a pause in many green projects as customers shifted their focus towards affordability and energy security. Now, despite this backdrop, SDS proved remarkably resilient. Margins held up well in the first half of the year, and our teams responded really quickly pivoting towards the Global South, LNG, ammonia, and OPEX-driven markets where demand fundamentals remain strong. That pivot clearly showed up in the results. We delivered strong book-to-bill in both the third and fourth quarters and exited the year with solid work under contract for 2026. Geographically, the Global South was a major source of strength, with winds across Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Singapore. At LNG, we secured both the Abadi and Coastal Bend front-end engineering design contracts, reinforcing our front-end positioning. And in ammonia, awards were truly global, reflecting the durability of our technology portfolio. We also continue to advance emerging technologies, including lithium extraction, and in hydro PRT recycling, After ongoing commissioning challenges, I'm pleased to report they are now operating continuously producing on-spec product with ramp up expected through 2026. Now, as we look ahead, our growth opportunities in 2026 are directly aligned with these same themes. To anchor that outlook, fourth quarter book to bill was 1.6 times. with a trailing 12 months put to bill of 1.2x. Backlog ended the year at $4.2 billion, and that's up 5% year over year, and up more than 20% excluding Blackman's LNG. Our near-term pipeline, excluding LNG, is approximately $5 billion, with about 80% from repeat customers showing the relationships that we have developed over time. And work under contract covers roughly 63% of our 2026 guidance, putting us above normative levels for this business going into the year. With that, let's turn to Mission Tech and on to slide eight. Mission Tech also faced a challenging environment, as you're well aware, in 25, including award delays, reduced contingency activity for us, particularly in Europe, and the impact of the government shutdown. Despite those headwinds, MTS performed well. Revenue held up year over year, margins improved, and cash performance was excellent. And this reflects a disciplined execution approach and the quality of the underlying portfolio. Strategically, we continued to move upmarket. Activity expanded with the U.S. Space Force and Air Force Research Lab, validating the Lindquist acquisition. We secured positions on key multiple award vehicles and defended several important re-competes, including HHPC and Djibouti. While we did lose the COSMOS re-compete in 2025, this was at the lower end of margin returns within the portfolio. Importantly, there are no material re-compete revenues expected in 26. reducing near-term pre-compete risk. Internationally, I will stand out, particularly Australia, with approximately $800 million in defense award contracts and high single-digit year-over-year revenue growth. While contingency activity declined in certain areas, the border defense and intelligence portfolio performed well, particularly in missile defense, naval air, digital engineering, and in R&D. Cross-business synergy bids are becoming increasingly important, and we have several opportunities in the pipeline that reflect a similar integrated cross-business approach. Looking ahead, the full year 2026 Defense Appropriations Act has been enacted, and MTS, we believe, is well aligned with this funding. We expect award cadence to improve, particularly in the second half of the year, supported by strong bid volume and contract vehicle leverage. To anchor that outlook, the trailing 1,000 months to bill was 1.0. Backlog and options ended the year at $19.1 billion, and that's up 15% year over year, with 40% funded, excluding PFIs. Bids are weighing awards, total $17 billion, with 80 percent of that number representing new business. We expect to bid more than $25 billion in 2026, and that will be up double digits year over year. Finally, work under contract already covers approximately 82 percent of our 26 guidance with minimal pre-compete exposure. On to slide nine. Next, I'll provide an update on the spinoff transaction. which remains an important part of our strategy to sharpen focus and drive long-term value creation for shareholders, as you're well aware. Preparations continue to progress in line with our plan, and our targeted distribution is anticipated in the second half of 2026. From a readiness standpoint, we're making steady, tangible progress. Audits and pro forma financial statements are underway to support the Form 10 process. As committed, we made our initial confidential filing in late December and we're currently expect to file an amendment incorporating full year audited 25 financials in March 26. A similar timeline is progressing for the private letter memo with the IRS. So all on track. We're also continuing to refine the transaction perimeter to ensure operational clarity and strong standalone positioning for both companies. And as part of that effort, we have decided to move the Fraser Nash consultancy business and the UK civil nuclear project portfolio into sustainable tech. We have provided a supplemental financial information sheet for modeling purposes, and this is accessible via the QR code. And this change has no material impact to our long term segment growth CAGRs or margins. As discussed previously, CEO and CFO recruitment efforts are underway. And in the interim, I have appointed Mark Salt as interim spin CEO, leveraging his role as spin transitioning lead. And this positions Mark to effectively serve in a capacity while the search for a permanent CEO continues. These efforts, along with early branding initiatives, support the future standalone companies are progressing in parallel. the product separation work streams importantly a dedicated spin transaction team continues to drive execution across the organization really helping to minimize destruction to day-to-day operations while maintaining momentum and i think you can see that in the delivery of the 25 bottom line results the level of internal engagement and coordination continues to build which gives us confidence and our ability to execute the transaction effectively. We'll continue to keep you updated, of course, as we progress. And with that, I'll turn it over to Sha.

Thanks, Stuart, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. I'm excited to step into the CFO role, an important time for KVR. Mark Soft built a strong finance organization and a disciplined foundation, and I'm grateful for his leadership and the opportunity to build on that work. Looking ahead, my focus is straightforward. Deliver on our financial commitments, support the financing and investor milestones associated with the SPIN, and maintain a disciplined financial structure that advances our strategy. With that, let's turn to the fourth quarter results on slide 11. Revenues were $1.85 billion, down $223 million year-over-year, primarily reflected award timing in MTS and reductions in UConn contingency scope. More importantly, Profitability and execution were strong. Adjusted EBITDA increased 12 million and margins were 12.6%, up 190 basis points, driven by disciplined program execution and favorable mix as UConn volumes declined from lower margin work. Adjusted EPS was $0.99, up $0.09 year over year, reflecting the stronger adjusted EBITDA performance and lower share count following open market repurchases. Turning to slide 12 in our full year results, revenues were approximately $7.8 billion, up modestly year over year, despite the market volatility. We delivered strong performance in defense and intelligence programs supported by the link with acquisition, continued momentum in Australia aligned with its defense priorities, and sustained demand in STS across our engineering, professional services, and technology offerings. Adjusted EBITDA increased $100 million. and full year margins were 12.4%, up more than 100 basis points year over year. As Stuart mentioned, this performance reflects prioritizing high margin growth, disciplined program execution, and continued delivery on cost saving initiatives across the business. Adjusted EPS was $3.93, up 60 cents versus prior year, and supported by the increase in adjusted EBITDA on share repurchases. Partially offset by higher interest expense, and higher income taxes through the international mix in our underlying rate. That same dynamic is reflected in our 2026 ETR guidance, which I'll cover in a moment. Cash was a key highlight. Operating cash flow was $557 million, representing 110% conversion to adjusted net income. We exited the year with strong liquidity heading into 2026. Overall, revenues and adjusted EBITDA within our ranges for the year and adjusted EPS and operating cash flow exceeded the top end of our guided ranges. Turning to slide 13, I'll focus on a few financial proof points that support the progress Stuart just outlined in sustainable tech. As discussed earlier, the market environment shifted materially in 2025. From a financial standpoint, STS offset those headwinds through mix, geographical expansion, and increased exposure OPEX-oriented and structurally stronger demand areas. That operating discipline is clearly showing up in the quality of earnings. Adjusted EBITDA has grown 16% since 2023, outpacing revenue growth and reflecting improved mix in cost execution. While margins were modestly elevated in 2025, we are on pace to meet our long-term margin target of 20% plus in 2027. This performance was delivered alongside strong cash conversion of more than 80% and a trailing 12-month bill of 1.2, providing good visibility as we enter 2026. Lastly, due to the recurring nature of RIS and alignment with our OPEX strategy, we plan to update our adjusted EBITDA calculation beginning in 2026 to reflect our share of unconsolidated JV operating income. Previously, RIS and other unconsolidated JVs were reflected through JV net income, This change improves transparency and aligns EBITDA with how we manage the business. Prior periods will not be recapped, as the impact is not material. Turning to slide 14, I'll focus on the financial implications of the mission tech progress Stuart just outlined. From a financial perspective, the portfolio continues to move toward higher quality of earnings, driven by mixed improvements, disciplined program selection, and favorable contract structures aligned to the most durable and well-funded national security priorities. Since 2023, the integration of Lindquist, its strong international execution, and a more selective business development approach have supported mid-single-digit revenue growth while improving margin quality. Importantly, that improvement has been driven by commercial acumen and contract discipline, including a greater focus on fixed price from technically differentiated work, not volume. Even with near-term headwinds from award timing and protest activities, the team remained highly selective in bids and re-competes, prioritizing returns and contract terms over scale. That discipline is showing up in sustained margin performance in a robust pipeline. Against that backdrop, the business is preparing for the spend with improving economics, solid visibility, and strong alignment to long-term national security demands. Turning to slide 15, capital allocation and balance sheet discipline remain key strengths. In 2025, we returned a record $413 million to shareholders through buybacks and dividends, and we ended the year with net leverage of 2.2 times. That reflects both strong cash generation and disciplined deployment. Looking ahead to 2026, our priorities remain unchanged. We're committed to maintaining an attractive and stable dividend through the spend transaction. And to that end, our board approved an annual dividend of 66 cents per share for 16 and a half cents per quarter for 2026. We also continue to invest selectively where returns are compelling. In January, we invested approximately 115 million to fund our proportion share of the SWOT OPEX acquisition within BRIS. a strategic transaction that enhances resilience to CapEx cycles and supports our OpEx expansion. As we execute this investment and absorb typical first quarter cash uses, including incentive payments, leverage may trend up modestly in the first half of the year before coming back down below the targeted 2.5 level as cash builds throughout the year. Ahead of respective investor days, which we plan to conduct before the spin, Each segment will assess its capital deployment priorities based on its standalone profile. I'll now turn to slide 16 in our fiscal 2026 guidance. We're providing full-year outlook for a consolidated company to establish a clear baseline for standalone outlooks to be updated as we progress towards the plan spin in the second half of 2026. With that in mind, for fiscal 2026, we are guiding revenues in the range of $7.9 billion 8.36 billion, adjusted EBITDA of 980 million to 1.04 billion, adjusted EPS of 3.87 to 4.22, and adjusted operating cash flow of 560 million to 600 million. At the midpoint, this implies approximately 4% year-over-year growth across all key metrics. We expect transition costs related to the spin to be approximately $140 to $180 million, inclusive of one-time IT capital costs. To ensure transparency around ongoing performance, we will introduce an adjusted operating cash flow and an adjusted free cash flow metric in 2026 that add back spin-related cash outflows, allowing investors to better assess the core cash-generating capabilities of the business. From a modeling perspective, the guide assumes low double-digit growth in STS at our normative long-term margins of 20% plus. MTS is expected to grow at low single digits, also at a normative margin of 10% plus, which we expect to continue to improve over time. Capital expenditures are expected to be in the range of 40 to 50 million for the year. Our projected effective tax rate is 26 to 28%, higher than the current year. And as I mentioned earlier, primarily reflecting a greater mix of work in the global south. Estimated adjusted share count is 127 million, which is exactly where we exited 2025. We expect revenues in adjusted EPS to be weighted approximately 46% to the first half and 54% to the second half of the year. For modeling purposes, we expect Q1 26 to be largely in line with Q4 25. And on a recast basis, we anticipate moderate sequential growth in MTS as UConn is at its base activity levels and partially offset by seasonal sequential declines in FTS. As a reminder, we will be comping against elevated UConn contingency in the first two quarters of 26, which is roughly 60 to 70 million per quarter. Our guidance includes key assumptions that are worth highlighting given the current political and economic environment. First, we assume the resolution about standing protests in the first half of the year. With award cadence and mission tech improving, the year progresses. Second, we assume that all material programs we currently support remain in place. Should that change materially, we will of course update as appropriate. Third, we assume modest improvement in interest rates in the second half of the year and stable foreign exchange rates relative to current levels. In closing, our 2026 guidance reflects a disciplined view of the current environment. We enter the year with solid work under contract, strong growth momentum, and a highly committed global team. And with that, I'll turn it back to Stuart.

Thanks, Chad. I'm on slide 17 with some key takeaways, and I'll close with four key messages. First, we executed with discipline in a challenging environment. Despite pressure across awards and funding, We delivered results in line with our updated guidance. We expanded margins and generated strong cash and returned that cash at record levels to shareholders. That performance under pressure reflects the strength of our operating model and the quality of the people inside KBR, our teams. Second, both segment exit 2025 was improving momentum and, of course, visibility. In sustainable tech, the portfolio is better aligned to structurally stronger demand, while in mission tech, margin discipline, pipeline strength, and funding visibility position the business well as award cadence improves into 2026. Third, the quality and the durability of our earnings continues to improve. Across the portfolio, we are being more selective, We're continually moving up market and leaning into innovation and digital differentiation. That focus is really driving better mix, more resilient margins, and stronger cash generation over time. And finally, our spin-off prep is advancing as planned. We're making steady progress on separation readiness, capital structure planning, and leadership and operational clarity all with the goal of creating two focused, well-positioned, standalone companies and, of course, delivering long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator who will open the call for Q&A. Thank you.

Thank you. With that, we'll start today's Q&A session. If you would like to ask a question during the call, please press Start followed by 1 on your telephone keypad And to withdraw your question, it starts followed by two. And just a reminder to ask one question and follow up to allow time for all. Our first question today comes from Toby Sommer from Truist. Your line's now open. Please go ahead.

Thank you very much. I was wondering if you could describe to us what the pipeline in STS is for sizable projects with Plaquemines closing out probably next year, just to give us a sense for how we may be able to fill that hole and even grow. Thank you.

Thanks, Toby. Not an unexpected question. In terms of the book to build in Q3, Q4, In Q4, I think you've seen the performance has been impressive across the spectrum. That includes technology and obviously the broader capability set in the Middle East, and that's coming through, and particularly in the OPEX area, which we feel is a strategic growth avenue we want to get after due to the long-term contract nature of that giving sort of visibility into earnings over time. We've started this year in Q1 very strongly again in bookings and in STS. So again, I think directionally, that's a very positive thing to see and obviously to disclose today. In terms of the broader pipeline, we've got a global business, as you're well aware, We see significant opportunity across the globe and across our capability set, and that includes ammonia and technology. It includes the broader technology set. I talked a little bit about Mura in my prepared remarks also. They are now running well. They've come through their 72-hour test products on spec and have actually sold that product already. We'll see that ramp up through the course, and they've got a number of projects in their pipeline as well, which both as an investor and an executor and technology provider, we'll take advantage of. In the broader LNG area, which is one aspect of our business, it's not their business, I would say that we've got obviously work going on in Abadi. We've got Coastal Bend front-end design also ongoing. And we've got a number of others that we can't tell you about today, unfortunately, that we're looking at as we move through this year. I think the other key takeaway here is that many have looked at the equity and earnings line and seen that really as just placements coming through. We talked a few quarters ago about the importance we felt BRIS would be delivering in that area over time. They've really sort of outperformed as we headed into the end of this year and have a very strong book to build themselves. And then with the additional swap, we're obviously more than doubling that EBITDA contribution, which is why we're going to be showing you that more transparently going forward. And that all comes through the equity and earnings line that we'll start to hopefully you know, get people thinking a little bit differently about the quality of earnings and the longevity of that earnings coming through the equity and earnings line. So hopefully that gives you a rounded view of that.

It does. Thank you very much. If I may ask my follow-up on the MTS side, backlog in options growth, pretty substantial in the mid-teens, and as well as the sizable awaiting award category. Maybe you could give us some color as to the drivers of the 15% growth in backlog, as well as the more exciting areas where you've got bids awaiting award.

Yeah, thanks Toby. Obviously, we've announced the number of wins. We talked a little bit about HHPC and Chiburi, which come through with a number of year options in them, which helps in that arena. And more recently, and very excitingly, the sort of Space Force and Air Force Awards in the sort of higher end digital area, starting to see some momentum around that. But just the broad portfolio internationally has been terrific, as we talked about again in the prepared remarks. So that's really the story coming into the end of this year. As we look out into next year, obviously we've got the work that's under protest. And I know Shad talked about that in his prepared remarks. And that's quite exciting because it takes us to new customers as well in terms of broadening our reach and really the work we're doing in missile defense, the work we're doing with Space Force, et cetera. And obviously the award of the SHIELD IDIQ really positioned as well for workflows under the sort of Golden Dome program also. And we're really seeing tangible wins in that arena as we've press released already. So that sets us up nicely for the future. But I am also excited about what's happening internationally. And it's a piece of our business that everyone sort of doesn't really talk about enough with, you know, Australia growing significantly, continually moving up market with an enormous backlog given its successful wins last year. And really the UK as well with increased defense spending happening across, not just in the UK, but the broader Europe arena really positions as well going into 26 and actually well beyond, of course. So I think that again gives you a sort of overall picture. We're very excited about the defense and Intel portfolio in the US. The work on the protest is a lot of that in the R&S segment, of course. And then we obviously have the international portfolio that's performing extremely well. And I will reiterate that better margins just because of its commercial nature.

Our next question comes from Mariana Perez Mora from Bank of America. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Good morning, everyone.

So my first question is going to be to SPS. And I think... we and all the investment community will welcome more clarity on the EBITDA and the contribution from the joint ventures. But in the meantime, how should we think about Plaquemines for how long it's going to contribute at these levels? How should we think about Lake Charles, or at least energy transfer, pausing and canceling that project and the impact to that contribution? And if we think, I don't know, three years from now, What are the opportunities you guys have to maintain that level of contribution from joint ventures?

That's a good strategic question, probably one best answered more fulsomely at the investor day, Mariana. But ultimately, as we said before, the contribution from Plaquemines will run consistently through all this year and into early next year. the increased focus in what we're doing around risks and the addition of SWOT. And we're looking at obviously more organic and inorganic growth in that arena to build out that portfolio. And we'll talk about that more as we get through the rest of the year. And, you know, that bit of the business is performing really, really well. And so that will be an increasing part of that equity and earnings contribution, which is why we want to be more transparent around it to give investors more confidence on the continued equity and earnings performance. But also it's on top line growth and top line growth and the associated EBITDA generation coming from that portfolio. And I think the book to bill of 1.6, again, really demonstrates the momentum that we're having, particularly in the global south, but ultimately across the portfolio and really sort of delivering, I guess, confidence of future earnings. And that's why we've we're confident on the sort of double-digit growth and the revenue line for STS going forward. So I think, again, more to come on that at Invest Today. We'll get more into sort of the granular details there. But strategically, that's where we're heading.

Thank you. And my follow-up on MTS. You talk about Australia. You have been discussing that for a couple of quarters, how strong it is. And now you talk about the UK. How is the award environment in the UK in general going? Like what is your book to build? How meaningful are the opportunities in the near term and what are the expectations for growth there?

Yeah, good question. 25 was a slow award cadence in the UK due to the typical defense reviews and US speak appropriations and really sort of pointing at pounds in this case to where the spend is going to be. That process is now behind us and we can see clear spend priorities going into 26, which is why we're feeling pretty good about where we are and where we're positioned in the UK. Again, more to come and we'll get more granular in the investor day, but I think directionally you can sense that we've come through what is a flat year in the UK and now moving into a growth cycle within our portfolio.

Thank you so much.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ian Zafino from Oppenheimer. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

All right, great. Thank you very much. You know, the question would also be on MTS. Can you maybe give us kind of the components of the guidance there? You know, I imagine Defense and Intel would be very nicely up above kind of the guidance. But what should we expect maybe for readiness and sustainment? And any other kind of color you could give us on that?

Yeah, quite right. Defense at Intel is up, as Chad talked about. Science and space is down due to pressure on NASA budgets, as you would expect. So that's contained within the guide. And then we've got the R&S and the protests that are more aligned to R&S as we look through the course of the year. Assuming that they are successful, we'll grow R&S nicely as well as the international portfolio we talked about. And it's also worth saying that, as I said in my prepared remarks, we did lose some of our re-competes, which were at the lower end of our margin performance. But in terms of the guide, although some of them are under protest, a couple of them are under protest, We have not assumed that we will be successful in those protests in the guide, so we've taken a fairly firm view that if we were successful, that would be upside.

Okay, thanks. And then you made a comment about doing M&A. How should we think about that? Is this something that's going to wait until after the spin, pre-spin? I don't want to jump the gun on the investor day, but how do you think about you know, separating these businesses. Is it going to be, you know, 100%? Are you thinking 80%? Just to get our arms around, you know, how you're thinking about capital allocation, you know, pre and then also post-spend. Thanks.

Yeah, no, thanks. So, our statements that we made when we announced the spend-still-hold, you know, the In terms of the leverage, the net leverage we're expecting to come out of those businesses is, you know, circa 2 on STS and circa 3 on MTS, which is well within market norms. We might be a little bit north or south of that, but we're not going to be far away. So those are good numbers to work from today. In terms of, we've got some firepower, of course, as we go through the year. to achieve those leverages. And if we find a creative M&A, we don't want to stand still. And I think we've proven that with the acquisition of SWOT to really advance our strategy in the sort of long recurring cycle of OPEX type contracts. And we'll be looking to expand in areas of strategic importance. So we won't get out over our skis. We won't really sort of, unless it's some significant transformational thing in the middle of a spin, which will be highly unusual. But ultimately, these will be fairly modest but accretive and strategic acquisitions. We don't want to stand still in this period as we've proven through the SWOT acquisition, which is a highly accretive deal for us.

Yeah, and maybe just to build on that, Ian, on deployment, the year typically begins, as you know, with several funded cash commitments around annual incentive and dividends and And this year, we'll also be incurring some spin-related transition costs as well. And so, when you combine those with the strategic investment that Stuart said at the outset, with the normal capital expenditures, they effectively consume a lot of the free cash flow in the first part of the year. So, as the year progresses, we'll, of course, continue to assess opportunities to deploy and assess cash, obviously, in the most effective manner, in close consultation with our board. But Our focus really, as we said all along, is making sure we're setting both of these businesses up with really strong balance sheets out of the gate.

Our next question comes from Jerry Revich from Wells Fargo. Your line's now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, this is Kevin Uherog on for Jerry. Just had a question on SES. Would it be possible if you could rank order the growth outlook by end market in 2026?

I think that really is one for investor day. We've got, you know, we've said this before, civil avenues of growth. You know, we're Expanding our footprint in Iraq. We announced major Windsor recently. We're expanding our footprint in Saudi Arabia across different and both in different areas of the market. We've also picked up the coastal bend LNG feed and body front end design and LNG technology continues to perform. It's it's difficult to give you a point estimate in that right now because of just of timing. But I would say that that The way the portfolio performs, that double-digit growth is the way to think about it at the consolidated level. And, you know, we'll be obviously, as a standalone SDS business, we'll be digging into this in more detail when we get to invest today.

Got it. Understood. And then on the mission solutions piece, on SDS, UConn cadence, does fourth quarter represent the run rate in activity, or should we expect to step down in one queue?

Yeah, Kevin, it does. And so I'll just remind you, though, that the first and second quarters of 26 have a bit of a tough call. 60 to 70 million is what I'll call elevated levels, as that then threw down and is now at its steady run rate coming into 26th.

Our next question comes from Adam from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Please proceed.

Good morning. In MTS, margins for the full year 2025, I think, were 10.4%. And it sounds like MIX is improving there. So can you just expand on the puts and takes on the margin outlook for MTS embedded in the 2026 guide?

Yeah, so happy to take that, Adam. Despite some of the macro headwinds that Stuart pointed out, I think operational performance throughout 25 is really strong, and as you said, resulted in a 10.4% margin, which again is in line with our long-term expectation for this business, and really I think reflective of the profit-first business development mindset within that organization. While we do hope to improve margins over time as we continue to see a mix of that business move towards more fixed-price work, We've not assumed any uplift in 26, and so it's flat sequentially from the 2025 run rates.

Got it. Understood. And then you've talked a little bit about today the increasing mix of recurring OpEx and digital solutions. Is there any way to contextualize what percent of revenues today is OpEx driven and where you think that can head over time?

So again, I think we obviously more than invested there. Sorry, I keep saying that, but obviously that's firmly on our minds. But that's part of the reason we are sort of showing more transparency around that OPEX business in Briss. We do have an OPEX-facing business that we own 100% in the international arena, and we'll bring that all together when we meet later in the year for that investor day to show you Just the opportunity there will describe some of the long-term nature of those contracts. We'll give you an overall margin profile of that particular area. It's certainly within a range and what the outlook is. But we're excited about that strategically. We do think that assets across the world, of course, have increased significantly over this last decade. But the level of digital solutioning and thinking through how you can help your customer keep the plant up or make it more efficient and do predictive and analytics that support that is exciting. And we're right in the middle of all that. So I do think as assets age, there's going to be more volume of business in this area. And obviously, the demand is increasing and we feel we're very well placed over time to take advantage of that. And I think for investors, I think the strategic upside of that is that the contracts are longer term in nature. There's greater visibility of earnings and cash across that book of business. So that's directionally where we're heading, but more to come again in investor day.

Our next question comes from the line of Sanjita Jain from Keybanks Capital Markets. Your line's now open. Please go ahead.

Great, thank you. Good morning, Stuart and Shad. If I can ask two questions on NPS, my first one is, are you still exploring a sale of that segment? Can you speak to the process if you are, and is that still an option as you move towards the split?

I mean, you know I can't answer that question. So it's, you know, I mean, we're committed to shareholder value. We've said that many times. It's 100% the truth. We're going through this spin process to prove that out and demonstrate that. We're open to approaches. We're open to anything that will enhance shareholder value. That's all I can really say at this point.

Understood. And then on the NPS awards and protests, Can you provide a little enough detail on how many awards you're protesting and if any of them are outsized versus the others and also the timing that you're anticipating on those resolutions?

Yeah, these are fairly in the public domain. The Mission Iraq award is circa a billion dollars. And that's with the State Department. Then we have a classified program called K2A that's in the similar zip code. And then there's some, we did get one out of protest in our favor, which was the pre-positioned stock in Europe. So that's now running through the numbers. And that's the key ones at the moment. And obviously we are protesting the Cosmos loss and the Diego loss as we speak. So, but again, I would reiterate those are not in our numbers, the latter two. So that's kind of where we're at today.

Great. Thank you, Stuart.

Our final question comes from Andy from City Group. Your line's now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, everyone. Good morning, Andy. Good morning. Stuart, can you talk a little bit more maybe about impacts of AI on KBR? I think you mentioned briefly in prepare remarks, but how do we think about the mix between software and services in MTS? I mean, you mentioned digital and, you know, sort of the growth there. I think there's quite a few security and regulatory barriers that should protect your business versus AI, but maybe you could elaborate on how you think about AI's impacts on KVR's businesses.

Yeah, we talked a little bit about this before, I think, in last quarter, that I think there's a number of companies that created AI departments, etc., and I think they probably spent a lot of money with not a lot of gain. We've been very disciplined around how we approach this, and we very much look at use case solutions that actually drive an ROI. We've got a number of activities inside MTS that are funded by government, as you would expect, as we look at that from an R&D perspective. And that hangs off the back of our digital engineering labs that we pressed recently and talked a little bit in the prepared remarks, which are gaining good traction because of the speed to market of R&D projects, et cetera. as you would expect. More in the SDS world, again, looking very strongly at use cases around accelerating engineering, you know, making sure there's checks and balances within that engineering that avoid human errors, speed up progress. But at the same time, looking at how we operate facilities across the world or our customers operate facilities and using particularly digital twins and applying AI and machine learning to really sort of draw data and get trending over time to know what good looks like and make sure that operators can intercede at the appropriate time or maintenance crews can intercede at the appropriate time. So it's a multifaceted approach, but ultimately is driven by use case ROI. And we put quite a bit of front end effort into that, Andy, rather than just saying AI is good and just running at it. We've been quite disciplined. And that's on the front of office. I think in the back of office, increasing use of bots to drive efficiency and decrease human error, keep our SG&A in check or reduce it, in fact, over time. We're rolling at Microsoft Dynamics across the STS portfolio, which is really the forefront of a digitalized ERP because our project controls which gives us all the project data hangs off that and we can look at things real time and start to make real time decisions on commercial execution. And we've also got digital procurement hanging off the back of that and with a similar upside. And so I think that's all digital project execution philosophy, you know, underpinned by really a very modern and digitally enabled ERP is going to stand as a really good stead as we come out of the spin. So I think it's multifaceted. It's front of office driven by use case. It's back of office, again, driven by use case, but obviously with different drivers.

And so you just mentioned it, but when I looked at the release for STS margin, it mentioned ERP. And so we always think about ERP implementation as I guess a risk factor, but you got to, you know, over 20% margins again for 26. So how do you think about STS margins? You know, are they kind of going to be consistent here over the next few quarters and do we expect improvement in 26 versus 25?

Yeah, quite right on the ERP. It's typically a risk. Our teams have done a fantastic job. We've rolled out dynamics just to be fully transparent. We did a pilot in Singapore. It went well. We rolled it out in Australia, added more functionality, went back to Singapore, increased their functionality, rolled it out in India, rolled it out in the UK, and now we're looking at how we roll corporate out in the US, and then we'll move to the Middle East. So I think we've proven that we can roll this out without blowing it out, which is always the risk. So hats off to our teams in sort of managing the execution and the implementation. In terms of margins across STS, I think we'll just stick with our statement. I know that it's 20 plus percent across the portfolio. And as you've seen, we have done, you know, as we, you know, we are prudent in how we account for things. And as we close our projects, you will get ups in certain months. But I think over the piece, the portfolio performance is 20 plus percent. And I think that's a, That's a good measure to stick with.

Thank you. With that, we have no further questions in the queue. So I'll hand back over to Stuart Brady for some closing remarks.

Thank you. Thank you very much. So just a few final thoughts. I think as we discussed on the call, 2025 started off as challenging a year as we've seen in many. But I think it really underscored the strength of the KBR portfolio. Our geographical reach being truly global and understanding each of the countries and the different drivers was a real plus. A very diversified customer base. And that really drove a lot of, you know, a true lack of concentration risk. And being agile, both in terms of how we do our business and our business model, that gives both mission tech and sustainable tech real resilience. And I think that came through particularly in the bottom line and the cash performance through the course of the year. So despite external noise, we did execute on our strategy and we did so with discipline. And that's really about our people. The quality of our people and the commitment of our people is unbelievable. My hat's off to them. And so while we faced revenue headwinds, margins did expand, cash was strong, And that really, really, really reinforces the underlying health of the broader portfolio. So as we enter 26, we've got a solid foundation in both businesses, a strong one that will work under contract, and as we discussed on the call, a strong pipeline. So I think we're really well positioned in both businesses as we head towards the spin and as we enter 2026. So thank you again for joining today's call. I would welcome Chad and Rachel officially to the team in this forum and obviously we'll be talking soon. So thank you very much.

Thank you. That concludes today's call. You may now disconnect your line. Thank you for joining.