Nextdoor Holdings, Inc.

Q2 2023 Earnings Conference Call

8/8/2023

spk03: Hello, everyone. Thank you for attending today's Nextdoor second quarter 2023 earnings call. My name is Sierra and I'll be your moderator today. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. If you would like to ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. I would now like to pass the conference over to our host, Matt Anderson, head of investor relations with Nextdoor. Please proceed.
spk04: Thank you, Sarah. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today to review Nextdoor's second quarter 2023 financial results. With us on the call today are Sarah Fryer, Chief Executive Officer, and Mike Doyle, Chief Financial Officer. During this call, we may make statements related to our business that are forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. These statements are not guarantees of future performance. They are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties. Our actual results could differ materially from expectations reflected in any forward-looking statement. For discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to our SEC filings available on the SEC's website and in the investor relations section of our website, as well as the risks and other important factors discussed in today's earnings release. Additionally, non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on today's conference call. The reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the Q2 2023 shareholder letter released today. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Sarah.
spk00: Thank you, Matt. Q2 was a strong quarter for us as we delivered year-over-year growth across our key metrics of weekly active users, or WOW, and revenue, as well as adjusted EBITDA margin improvement. Starting with neighbors, WOW rose 13% year-over-year to $41.6 million globally. While WOW declined slightly sequentially, we added 1.6 million WOW in the first half of the year. We also saw strength in underlying engagement trends, most notably session depth, which has increased 24% since the end of 2022. We are successfully executing on our 2023 product initiative to increase the number of neighbors and organizations on the platform, deepen engagement by driving content creation and personalization, and enable sustainable advertiser and revenue growth through ad platform development. We continue to bring new neighbors and organizations to Nextdoor through invites, content sharing, and brand awareness initiatives. In Q2, we launched our seventh annual Neighborhood Saves campaign, where neighbors voted for their favorite local businesses. This brand-building campaign benefits businesses. Winners receive almost five times more clicks on their next-door ads and six times more recommendations on their business pages. It also benefits neighbors, 94% of whom value recommendations from other neighbors. During the campaign, neighbors voted for almost 2.5 million businesses on the platform, creating a virtuous cycle of support and interaction between neighbors and businesses. With over 60 million business faves and recommendations and nearly 4.1 million acclaimed business pages on the platform relative to just over 2 million when we went public less than two years ago, we create a strong presence for local businesses and deliver value by providing reach to a high-intent audience of real people in neighborhoods everywhere. Last month, we had the opportunity to celebrate the 2023 Neighborhood Fate winners with beloved local businesses like Boonie Cafe, Brooklyn Blooms, and Foley Hardware as they rang the opening bell at the NYSE. We know that when small businesses like these thrive, neighborhoods thrive. In the quarter, we accelerated our API initiative to share next-door content on and off the platform and to make this process more seamless for neighbors. including through partnerships with Axios and Reddit. We're also in the very early days of partnering with the BBC to bring more local news content to Nextdoor. These initiatives help drive engagement and raise awareness of Nextdoor as the platforms get things done locally. We're seeing results with over 90% of global verified neighbors coming to Nextdoor organically in the quarter. We are well positioned to explore the possibilities for AI and generative AI applications because of our unique and highly dynamic local knowledge graph. Our graph benefits from real-time tagging. In other words, neighbors are already telling us if their post is a business recommendation or an event or a for sale item. We can use this information to train our ML models and ultimately help neighbors more easily meet their needs on Nextdoor. including finding the most up-to-date local information or exchanging goods and services. We are excited for AI's potential to drive both WOW and revenue outcomes. AI, especially ML, continues to play a critical role across our product initiatives to drive engagement in Q2. We implemented AI in the new speed to help content travel based on the number of neighbors in the neighborhood. As a result, neighborhoods with fewer neighbors are seeing more content, which has driven greater session depth, comments, hosting, and even revenue. Using AI to customize the newsfeed for neighborhood characteristics like population and engagement level is a precursor to personalizing the newsfeed for neighbor characteristics like interest. We continue to roll out the generative AI assistance we started testing late last quarter. Assistance for posts helps neighbors create posts in a way that are kinder and more engaging, and we've seen strong adoption. The majority of neighbors who see the assistant generated suggestions are choosing to integrate them, leading to more productive and positive posts. We've seen particularly high traction from those creating business posts or recommendations, highlighting the strong use case for our two-sided network, businesses connecting to neighbors and vice versa on the platform. In addition, we have integrated assistance with our kindness reminder to suggest ways to rephrase comments that are potentially hurtful. This work accelerates our ongoing efforts to foster neighborhood vitality. Earlier this month, we were honored to participate as the NAACP National Convention Closing Plenary Keynote with NAACP President and CEO Derek Johnson on the theme of thriving together. In working with trusted advisors and partners such as President Johnson, Dr. Jennifer Eberhardt and the Stanford Spark Lab, and Julianne Holt-Lunstad, founding scientific chair and board member for the U.S. Foundation for Social Connection and the Global Initiative on Loneliness and Connection, we are creating a welcoming platform that enables all neighbors to thrive. While there is more to do, features like the generative AI assistant and kindness reminder are an integral part of our growth and engagement strategy. Beyond AI, we launched several other product features designed to enhance the next-door user experience and drive engagement and ultimately revenue. For example, contextually relevant ads on our classified surface for sale and free through our partnership with Microsoft Bain. Now, when neighbors search for an item, for example, a bike, they see neighbor posts for bikes as well as relevant ads for bikes. Contextually relevant ads create a better neighbor experience and provide strong advertiser value. One of the most significant areas of progress in Q2 was on our ad platform. Over the past several quarters, we've been building the foundation for our improved self-serve ad experience, designed to reduce advertiser effort, as well as our proprietary ad server, designed to improve advertiser outcomes. Our self-serve ad experience, the Nextdoor Ads Manager, is now available to new advertisers of any size. Additionally, we have started migrating existing advertisers to the improved experience, and we're seeing positive results. One newly migrated solar company in Arizona said they greatly appreciate how our ad creation tool allows them to serve ads to specific zip codes in a uniquely local and hyper-targeted way. It is a testament to the ease and functionality of the Nextdoor Ads Manager, as well as proximity and place as some of our key differentiators. The Nextdoor Ads Server is now delivering 100% of US SMB demand. The server is already offering a more powerful advertising experience, including faster loading times and better distribution of ad impressions. Over time, the Nextdoor Ads Server will provide better targeting and optimization capabilities benefiting customers and neighbors alike. In closing, we are pleased with the progress we've made year-to-date on many key product initiatives and business metrics, and we're excited to continue executing on our top priorities, growing our base of neighbors and organizations, deepening engagement, and driving revenue growth by supporting advertisers through our ad platform. We returned to revenue growth and adjusted EBITDA margin expansion in Q2, and we remain confident that we will continue to generate revenue growth and margin improvement in 2023 overall and beyond. And with that, I'll turn it over to Mike.
spk09: Thank you, Sarah. Q2 revenue of $57 million grew 4% year-over-year and demonstrated increasing momentum throughout the quarter. We saw several areas of revenue growth in Q2, Consistent with the past few quarters, mid-market advertisers continue to be an area of strength. We added 17% more mid-market logos quarter over quarter, and small and medium-sized businesses, or SMBs, returned to revenue growth. We are continuing to see the benefits of our strategy to deepen our relationships with advertising agencies who can help us unlock spend from new customers and increase revenue diversity. In Q2, 77% of new global enterprise accounts came through agency partnerships. International revenue grew by 28% year over year, and we added 79% more new logos internationally this quarter than in Q2 of 2022. Growth in the financial services and real estate verticals overall remains muted, but this was offset by strength in other verticals, including healthcare and travel. And many of our larger advertisers continue to increase spend. For example, Leaf Home doubled spend from Q1 to Q2 of this year as a result of strong performance on the platform. Q2 ARPU of $1.37 declined 7% year-over-year, reflecting another quarter of growing year-over-year wow and impressions, both of which outpaced revenue growth in the period. Q2 adjusted EBITDA loss was $19 million, representing a negative 33% margin. This is a four-point year-over-year improvement and an 11-point sequential improvement in margin, reflecting a combination of revenue growth and expense management, while also ensuring we are resourced to deliver on our long-term growth objectives. Notably, we grew cost of revenue just 2% year over year as platform hosting cost efficiencies drove operating leverage. Our Q2 operating cash burn of $12 million was better than the adjusted EBITDA loss, reflecting another quarter of benefit from interest income. We ended Q2 with $552 million in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities. We will continue to evaluate our capital allocation opportunities looking forward. I'll close with our outlook. we expect Q3 of 2023 revenue growth to be in line with our Q2 growth rate at approximately 4% growth. Based on progress to date, we expect Q4 year-over-year revenue growth to accelerate, implying mid-single-digit year-over-year growth for the full year of 2023. Turning to adjusted EBITDA, we expect Q3 adjusted EBITDA loss to be minus $21 to minus $20 million. We continue to expect to return to adjusted EBITDA margin improvement for the full year 2023. We will hold sequential operating expense growth to low single digits in the second half of this year. We have made substantial progress across key business metrics year to date and remain focused on growing WOW and revenue through our 2023 product priorities. Thank you for joining our audience call today. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator for Q&A.
spk03: Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. To remove your question, press star followed by two. And if you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before asking your question. Our first question today comes from Yusef Squally with Truist. Please proceed.
spk05: Hi, this is Robert Zeller on for Yusef. Thanks for taking our questions. Increasing the content from nearby neighborhoods seems like a really good idea because the more relative content a user will see, the more time they will spend in the app. But I'm curious, how do you strike the balance between expanding to more content from nearby neighborhoods while also maintaining the value proposition of that close proximity and localization? You know, I'm just curious, like, how much more room is there to expand this without losing Nextdoor's core value proposition? And then I'll have one follow-up. Thanks.
spk00: Great. Thank you, Robert. It's a great question, something that we discuss a lot internally. I think the punchline answer is personalization. But let me kind of backtrack a little. Nextora has been on a shift of going from private to local. We used to be the private social network for your neighborhood, and we really broke that apart over the last couple of years. It really is a move to become much higher utility for neighbors and much higher in terms of community. So there's a balance here. One of the first moves we made was to be able to have anyone content. So that allows us to have content travel depending on how useful it is. For example, something about lost keys from a run you were on or a lost pet. probably should stay hyperlocal. In the end, they're not going to go that far. But if you think about something like an emergency situation, right, with all of us living under, sadly, tornado warnings and high heat exposure, those could be examples where you actually want the content to be able to travel across multiple neighborhoods. So that was a big push on anyone content. Of course, that also gives us a lot of leverage in areas like SEO as well. But I'm going to come back to personalization because this is a place where we've been doing a lot of – deep investment from an AIML perspective. I joined Nextdoor because of the unique data set. We are the local knowledge graph, highly dynamic, very unique content. On top of that, you'll hear other companies talk about having to get their data tagged or labeled. Nextdoor is really interesting in that our data effectively gets labeled in real time by our neighbors. So the ability for them to say, hey, this is a post about a recommendation. This is something I'm flagging for moderation. This is something I'm selling or something I'm offering for free. That gives us a really interesting base to then be able to apply models on top of. And so being able to train those models means that we have a lot of possibility to do better personalization. Like for some people, local is literally their building or their street. And for others, local might be their whole county. Even for an individual, if they are looking for their lost keys from a run, local is a very small radius. But if they're looking for an emergency plumber, they're probably willing to have a post travel further to get the utility. So even for individuals, the concept of local can change depending on the use case and on the context. So that's the balance for us. That's why we have done this kind of long-term, multi-year effort to move from private to local. It now gives us the ability to move content based on personalization. But then to where you started with your point, it also now allows us to really up the amount of liquidity in neighborhoods that are perhaps younger, where we don't have as many neighbors at the moment, not creating as much content. When we can do that, we're already seeing the offshoot of that, which is higher engagement brings more verified neighbors to the platform, and it allows for deeper scrolling into the app itself. So that's why you saw WOW grew at 13% year-over-year, but session depth grew faster. And in fact, we told you that the percentage overall of session depth was up about 24% just since the end of last year. So appreciate the question. I'm happy to take the follow-up.
spk05: Okay, great. Thank you. And yes, the follow-up is just a clarification. So I understand you know, the assistant feature seems pretty straightforward for helping improve posts. I'm curious how it exactly works for the business-related purposes. It seems like a very interesting new utility for the assistant feature for business-related purposes. So, how exactly does that work?
spk00: Yeah. So, right now, one of the big use cases on Nextdoor is giving and getting recommendations. And this is a place where we're seeing in particular the AI, the assistants do very well for you. So if I'm looking for a recommendation for a hair salon, or I want to give a recommendation for the amazing donut that I had this morning at the local coffee shop, those are places where we see the AI's ability to rewrite the post in a much more engaging way already taking off. And we're seeing the majority of neighbors accept questions the prompt and say, yeah, I would rather post it this way. What we're learning is as we get into the long tail, where maybe there's less aggregation, like less similarity to the post, neighbors are still better at being engaging. And so this is where now the iteration of AI begins, where there will be places where we have a lot of data, and that allows us to give really good kind of offers of different ways to write a post. And then other places where there's just a long tail and the ability to sound really authentic and local really matters. And again, it just keeps coming back to what's so unique and differentiated by Nextdoor, which is the fact that we have this local, very unique, highly dynamic local knowledge graph. I think where we're going, I don't think, where we're going with generative AI is thinking about our ad platform because we have this insight now that says, and AI can actually be very effective in writing a recommendation, which is really just a step away from writing an ad. The benefit of building our own next generation ad platform, which we're through the build on, is that we can now take advantage of next generation technology and leapfrog an effect. So we think that there's very fertile ground to start creating an ad using generative AI, which is pulling from what neighbors have already written about a business, maybe pictures they've already posted about a business. So that when you as the business, and you might even be a big business, not just a small business, but in small business land, you're everything. You're creating a product. You're the service provider. You're the CFO. You're the person doing all the legal stuff. You're making sure the server showed up. And you're also the CMO. And if we can make your life easier, and have that kind of wow moment where it's like, wow, Nextdoor really understands me. We think that is a phenomenal way to get a great ad out for local business so they get more revenue and also have a great outcome for a neighbor where they feel like it's great content. And that's why I quoted the 4.1 million claimed pages, because that's kind of the immediate place to go, right? Those are businesses that have taken a first step with Nextdoor It claimed their business page, almost double since we went public. And now we know we can go back and sell them on that upsell moment from just posting to not turning it into an ad, hopefully with GEN AI helping.
spk05: DARYL FOX- OK, great. Thank you very much. JENNIFER JEFFRIES.
spk00: Appreciate the question.
spk03: Our next question comes from Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.
spk01: Thanks so much for taking the questions. Maybe two if I could. One, I'm just drawn to the comment you made about agency relationships and the nature of that being a driver of advertising momentum in the quarter. Can you talk a little bit about some of the investments you've made to date and how you're thinking about the execution piece in terms of building agency relationships through this year and then more importantly as a backdrop for budget decisions into next next year that could possibly step up either advertiser count or your advertising revenue base going into 2024? Thanks so much, Sarah.
spk09: Eric, this is Mike. I'll take the question. So much like we have built out our approach in industry verticals, we've made a significant investment in building a team to deepen our relationships with advertising agencies. First and foremost, it's to help to build awareness of the Nextdoor platform. and then to leverage the agency relationships with their client base to help them to learn how to best take advantage of our platform. We have a variety of ways we do this, including some advanced relationships where we have preferential treatment of a client base within an agency to just allowing us to get more introductions through the advertiser client base. This has helped us really to make that the first introduction to get the trial budgets and then to deepen the spend on the platform. So I mentioned 77% of our new enterprise accounts in Q2 had an agency partnership component. And we worked together with the agencies to make sure that we're delivering the performance and meeting the expectations of their client base. This is an area that we continue to invest in, and it works alongside with our direct relationships with the advertisers.
spk01: Great. Thanks for the call, Mike. Thanks, Eric.
spk03: Our next question comes from Ron Josie with Citi. Please proceed.
spk06: Great. Great, thanks for taking the question. I've got two. Sarah, I wanted to dig in a little bit more about adding and improving contextually relevant ads for for sale and free on Nextdoor. So talk to us a little bit more about, if you could, the size of the classified business in terms of traffic or sessions, and then specifically how Bing monetization might improve the user experience and how it's integrated. That's the first question. The second question is just on WoW. I think that declines sequentially. Any additional insights there would be helpful. Thank you.
spk00: Yes. Thanks, John. So first of all, on for sale and free, I think you start just by breaking down. If you look at why people come to Nextdoor, number one is give and get recommendations I just talked about. But a second reason is the marketplace that we have that we call for sale and free. It's actually quite large. We see over a billion dollars per month put on for sale and free. And one of the things, you know, why do we win there? Why people come to Nextdoor? Number one is it's Hyperlocal, so if you're trying to get rid of, you know, I don't know, something in your garage or a table, not going to FedEx this. You need someone that can probably show up at your house. Number two, it's high trust that someone's probably going to show up at your house. And then the third reason is this investment in community that we see through that platform, where often someone like, say, a mom might give away a bike that a kid has grown out of. partially because she or maybe a dad, he wants to give back to the community as well. And in fact, I think it's something like about 20-ish percent of all the items in the catalog are actually offered for free. So it's an incredible value proposition for a local community. I love that you picked up on the piece where we obviously put ads onto that surface. And historically, we've more just put our ads that we're getting broadly speaking from any client that is buying ads on the platform. What we did in Q2 is we integrated in with Microsoft Things ad platform, where now we can do a much more contextual ad. So when someone searches for a bike, for example, We obviously can show them the bikes that are available from the community, but we can also show them a contextual ad. And there's a couple of things we're doing here. Number one, we just want the neighbor experience to be awesome, right? You're trying to get a job done. I need to get a bike for my kid. We want you to be able to do that, whether you buy it through an actual third party vendor or whether you get it from your community. But it's also a way for us to keep testing this deep set of belief we have that we have so much information and such a high-intent audience that if we can keep offering an ad that has high contextual relevance in the moment, we can prove that from an advertiser perspective, they're going to have the best possible outcome. And the good news with the Bing ads that we're doing is the answer is yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. They're incredibly performant. So it's given us a lot of confidence that as we move to our new edtech stack and are able to actually take advantage of our proprietary data, we're going to be able to add more and more of this contextual relevance. Sometimes through search, but also just generally speaking, because we know something about you as an individual, or we know something about your community.
spk10: And then Ron, I can't remember if you asked anything else. I think that was it.
spk00: Okay, great.
spk10: Thank you.
spk06: I don't know. Can you still hear me?
spk00: Yeah, we can hear you. Yeah. Okay.
spk06: Oh, hey. No, Sarah, that was super helpful on the classifieds and exciting. I was just wondering on the WOW that looks like it declined sequentially. Anything to call out there specifically?
spk00: No, I would say overall, we looked at it in terms of the first half and felt we had a lot of outperformance in Q1 and probably just settled down a little in Q2. I'm going to go back to the year-over-year growth of 13% year-over-year, just under $42 million of total wow. I think a couple of things I'd really want to call out for you. Number one, A lot of our wow growth is coming from top of funnel verified neighbor growth. And what we're proud of in the quarter, as we have cut our own costs to make sure we're staying mindful of margin progression, is that over 90% of all verified neighbors came from the platform organically. So that is a great signal that on Nextdoor, we have strong product market fits. And the second thing is as people come as verified neighbors, they're engaging in a best-in-class way. So verified neighbors' wow ratio has stayed at just a little over 50%, but also wow-to-dow ratios have also stayed at over 50%. So that's a strong signal for us what that means for overall growth. And we add about 2 million new verified neighbors a quarter right now, and that's with no halo effect from any paid marketing, etc., Going down the funnel from just wow to session, and why that's important is because, of course, sessions are going to get you some impressions, and impressions are what's going to get you the revenue. Session growth is actually faster than mile growth. And that has also been true for the last couple of quarters. And that's because we're driving, as people come to the platform, we're driving them to go deeper on the platform. And that's because we're putting more content in front of them that is valuable. And that's an output of all of the investment we've done from an AI ML perspective. So we talked about how session growth continues to outpace wow growth. And then finally, in terms of retention, we continue to see ongoing strengths from a retention standpoint. All the same, the cohorts are sticking around as we have seen in the past couple of years. There's no changes there. So again, really strong signal that once we get you, you stick around and you find that value on Nextdoor. As we look forward into Q3 and the back part of the year, our expectation for Q3 WOW is it's probably going to be about similar to Q2. We don't want to get ahead of ourselves. But we are putting a lot of focus on driving that top of funnel growth right now and continuing to drive session debt. So that's giving us the confidence that we can continue to drive revenue growth and that we'll see that accelerate into the back half of the year. In fact, Q3, we gave you the guidance for it. But if you're kind of doing the math to get to overall revenue growth for the full year for the company, you would know that that starts to get you into mid-teens, even high-teens type growth rates by the time we exit Q4.
spk06: Thank you, Sarah. Much appreciated.
spk00: You're welcome. Thank you.
spk03: Our next question comes from Brian Fitzgerald with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.
spk07: Thanks. A couple on the advertising side, quick ones. Can you remind us what is the expected timeline for the full migration of existing advertisers to the To the ads manager, where do you stand today in terms of that? And are you seeing any dynamics of accelerating transition as you kind of get more and more adept at doing that, advertisers get more and more adept at using tools? And then I'll have a follow-up.
spk00: Sure. Great. So, yeah, first of all, I'll talk to Nextdoor Ads Manager. So remember, that's the actual interface that you now hit, standalone app, and it's all about reducing advertiser effort. So how do we make it super easy to come to Nextdoor, create an ad, and get it out there and what it needs to do for you, growing your business? The good news is in the quarter, we're now at a point where businesses of any size, including ad agencies, can now self-serve on the platform. That was our big goal, to get to that point where everyone could self-serve. And now over the next couple of quarters, we've started migrating our user-centred customer base. So net new customers can self-serve to their heart's content. And now we're moving net new, sorry, migrating our current base. Just want to make sure I get that straight. So that should be done over the next couple of quarters. What they're seeing is it's a more powerful tool. We're able to give them better performance metrics, better reporting. They like the simplification. In my prepared remarks, I talked about the solar company out of Arizona, a good example of a mid-market client. They like it because they can just be very precise in their targeting. They know exactly which neighborhoods they currently have a lot of penetration in and, frankly, where they need to go south. And they really view that as differentiated on Nextdoor. They can't do that as well on other platforms. So that's Nextdoor Ads Manager. The other piece, which is the backend Nextdoor Ads Server, that's our backend piece, which is about advertiser outcomes. So how do we make sure the ad performs better? There, in terms of progress in Q2, we now deliver 100% of US SMB demand on it. And as we look forward into Q3 and Q4, it's about now how do we bring all of the mid-market over? And then 2024, we'll be bringing finally the large enterprises. Why we're doing it in that order is really about just managing risk. I think what we're seeing right now with NAS is actually a lot of stuff that makes us quite excited. As I mentioned on the prior question, first of all, this latency has gone down. So not having to do a call out to someone else's ad server or ad platform means that, you know, as you're scrolling through the feed, we don't miss an opportunity to put that right ad in front of you. So that's good from a revenue standpoint. Second is we can do a much better job of optimizing ad targeting and ad delivery. So, again, making sure that the right ad is going out at the right time. Like, when do you want to see the advert from the local bakery for what they've got going in the morning versus when do you need an ad from the local plumber or the local flooring experts? And then finally, ad relevance. You know, again, from a neighbor perspective, what does a neighbor see and why? So we're really happy to finally be making these moves. Q2 is a really big quarter for us. The momentum on the ad tech side was really phenomenal. I'm super grateful to the team. And I feel like it's starting to show up in our results. The fact that we're back to year-over-year growth and looking at acceleration as we get into the backend part of the year, it's pretty exciting.
spk07: Got it. And then just in prior calls, you've shared the retention levels for your top 50 advertisers. Any update on that, the latest advertiser numbers or revenue retention rates?
spk00: I mean, overall, if you look at Q2 in terms of retention trends, we felt stable to improving advertiser retention trends through the quarter. In particular, what we would call kind of managed advertisers, so folks that our sales team is touching directly. Self-serve was more stable, I would say. Retention amongst the largest advertisers still really high. Not a ton of change from the numbers that we've given you before. So that is good. And the final thing I'd say in terms of what makes us a little bit more upbeat, there are verticals like financial services, home services, that I think are still under a lot of strain. They're not really spending, but we know that we really perform for them. So the fact that we can now get back to growth with a lot of newer verticals that we weren't really servicing a year ago, looks like healthcare, government, and so on, makes me excited for the latent capacity that is hopefully there as these other verticals begin to see some, you know, return to normal. So overall, yeah, feeling good from an advertiser retention standpoint as well.
spk07: Awesome. Thanks, Sarah. Really appreciate it.
spk00: Thank you.
spk03: Our next question comes from Mark Mahaney with Evercore. Please proceed.
spk08: Thanks. I just have two quick questions. Did you already comment on just the overall advertising environment, how you would describe it since the beginning of the year, stable, soft, starting to recover, anything like that? And then could you also secondly just call out particular verticals? Is there any change in kind of the vertical strength and weakness that you've seen over the last year or two? Thank you.
spk00: Okay, why don't I take this first, and then Mike definitely should jump in on the second. So overall, Mark, we've seen a thaw line at Marcus. We don't want to get too carried away, but it definitely keeps you felt like a better quarter where each month actually got better from a year-over-year growth perspective, and that's continued in the first month of the new quarter. You know, generally, I would say probably advertisers just a little bit more optimistic. I don't think the recession has manifested to the same degree that people may have feared. I think secondly, when I talk to marketers, They're ready to do more full funnel advertising again. Now they clearly need to get the dollars to do that, but they want to be able to do a better mix of brands all the way down to performance marketing. They've been in this kind of trap of performance marketing only if they're spending at all. They're kind of recognizing, you know, full funnel. They need in the end to come back to that if they're going to be able to create the sort of brand recognition, the feel, the emotional pull that a consumer feels to a brand. And then if I think about we were in con this year, I mean, the themes we heard in con really kind of resonated for Nextdoor. A lot of conversation about showing up authentically, showing up around community, around local, really kind of struck a chord. And I think Nextdoor's ability to show up and say we're about real people, you know, and we know a lot about where you live, so targeting is high. We're about a high-intent audience. that's in a mode of spending, like they're looking for a plumber or they're looking for a dog groomer. And then finally, the fact that we can do this very customized local at scale messaging is also very unique and interesting. And so the incrementality is quite high relative to other platforms. So I think that's the other reason why agencies are starting to do a lot more work with us as Mike talked about earlier. Mike, I'll let you take the vertical on the scale of business conversation.
spk09: Yeah, if I could just add, I mean, as Sarah mentioned, we're seeing some recovery in the ad market. There is some choppiness as well. But we've seen, you know, continued to see strength in our mid-market businesses. We've added a record number of new logos. We also saw the SMB business return to growth, and we're continuing to see momentum there, which is something new to add to the discussion this quarter. And there's still some pressure on average spend per advertiser, but really are pleased with our ability to retain and acquire advertisers. I think that speaks to advertisers being willing to be out there and do spending to drive demand into their own businesses. We manage our group of advertisers as a portfolio, and part of our investment in the advertising agency channel has been really to improve diversification there. And it is yielding results. And so we talked about the verticals that are performing in a very strong way for us. Home services, health care, tech and telco, travel, pets has been really an area of fast growth for us as well. And it allows us then to work with advertisers to help them in their path back to spending in areas like financial services and in real estate. And then I think the other aspect of that is just having the platform have capabilities in multiple areas, things like brand awareness versus performance advertising and working with our advertiser partners to drive spend in ways that they need to based on the performance in their underlying businesses.
spk08: Okay. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Sarah.
spk03: Thanks, Mark. Thank you all for your questions. There are currently no questions waiting in queue, so as a reminder, it is star one to ask a question and star two to remove your question. There are no more questions waiting at this time, so I'll pass the conference back over to Sarah Fryer, CEO, for any closing remarks.
spk00: Sarah, thank you so much. Thanks, everyone, for joining. As I said at the top of the call, we're really pleased with our return to growth on year-over-year growth across all of our key metrics. WOW growing 13%, revenue growing 4%, and seeing EBITDA margin improvement of 4 points. If I look at what are the levers for future growth, the fact that 90% of users joined us organically in Q2, so really good indication that there's real value on Nextdoor. And that's all without any halo effect of paid marketing. The fact that session growth continues to show strength is that pacing wow growth. That's a direct link back to revenue. And the fact that session depth is up as well. As Mike mentioned, we felt strength in areas like mid-market sales, international, and of course our ad agency partnerships. And the big push from neighborhood faves. A really important one, the fact we now have 4.1 million claimed pages. That's fertile ground for upselling. I talked a little bit about the verticals like Finster of real estate that we think will improve over time. We perform really well for them. So there's latent capacity there. And then, of course, our opportunity on AI. Next door is the local knowledge graph with labeled data. High intent audience, real people in neighborhoods everywhere. So we are laser focused on growing WOW in revenue. And I want to say a huge thank you to the team because this was a great quarter for momentum in terms of the product build. We're on track to return to revenue growth and margin improvement for the full year, while also investing in the long-term opportunity for the business. So thanks for your time. We look forward to any follow-up questions, and we'll talk to you all in 90 days. Thanks a lot.
spk03: That will conclude today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your line.
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