5/1/2020

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Operator
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the first quarter 2020 Kinsdale Capital Group, Inc. Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. If you require any further assistance, please press star 0. Now, before we get started, let me remind everyone that through the course of the teleconference, Kinsdale's management may make comments that reflect their intentions, beliefs, and expectations for the future. As always, these forward-looking statements are subject to certain risk factors which could cause actual results to differ materially. These risk factors are listed in the company's various SEC filings, including the first quarter 2020 quarterly report on Form 10Q and the 2019 annual report on Form 10K, which should be reviewed carefully. The company has furnished a Form 8K with the Securities and Exchange Commission that contains a press release announcing its first quarter results. Kinzale's management may also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures in the call today. A reconciliation of GAAP to these measures can be found in the press release, which is available at the company's website at www.KinzaleCapitalGroup.com. I will now turn the conference over to Kinsale's President and CEO, Mr. Michael Kehoe. Please go ahead, sir.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Thank you very much, Operator, and good morning, and welcome to our call. We hope everyone participating on the call is staying well, and we want to especially commend all the Kinsale employees for their hard work and flexibility during this crisis in adapting so quickly to our remote work arrangement and in continuing to deliver best-in-class service to our brokers around the country. Their efforts in particular have helped to distinguish Kinsale and to drive the superior performance we reported last night. Joining me on today's call are Brian Petrucelli, Kinsale's CFO, and Brian Haney, Kinsale's COO. Last night, we reported a 19% increase in operating earnings per share compared to the first quarter of 2019, a 47 percent increase in written premium and a combined ratio of about 84 percent. Our annualized operating ROE was 17 percent for the first quarter. Brian Petrucelli will provide some additional detail and color on our financial performance here in a moment. Can sales strategy of focusing on the E&S market, controlling our underwriting and claim handling operations absolutely? and using technology to improve customer service and reduce costs served us well this quarter. When the virus hit and we needed to shift to a work from home model, we were able to do so quickly and with no loss in productivity or drop off in service levels. As of now, 90% of our employees are working remotely and our business is firing on all cylinders. There has been a considerable amount of commentary about the coronavirus and its impact on the P&C industry. This is an evolving topic and subject to some element of uncertainty. However, given what we know at this point, we do not believe the coronavirus will have a material impact on ConSale's profitability or growth. Specifically, ConSale does not write any of the following lines of business that may have a heightened exposure to virus-related losses, event cancellation, work comp, surety, trade credit, mortgage insurance, or reinsurance. Areas where we could be exposed to losses include commercial property, premises liability, management liability, and allied healthcare liability. I'll start with the commercial property. ConSale's property book focuses on industrial-type exposures in general. processing facilities, recyclers, warehouses, vacant properties, et cetera. We generally avoid occupancies like restaurants, gyms, theaters, et cetera, that may be more exposed to government shutdown orders. We believe the overwhelming majority of our policyholders are still operating during this crisis. All of our policies require direct physical damage to trigger coverage, all include virus exclusions, and all include an authorities exclusion, which specifically precludes coverage for claims arising from government shutdown orders. To date, we have received 17 commercial property claims. Eight of these involve policies that either do not have business income coverage at all or policies where the BI limit is below the attachment point of Kinsale's excess policy. So, in effect, You know, those policies, there's zero exposure to our coverage. The remaining nine policies could possibly present exposure to loss subject to a complete investigation, subject to the terms and conditions of the policy, and subject to a BI calculation that exceeds Kinsale's attachment point, as these are mostly excess policies. We have not received any claims to date in the management liability, premises liability, or the allied healthcare liability areas related to coronavirus. Again, we anticipate policy terms and conditions would preclude coverage for most claims. Specifically, the allied healthcare coverage excludes communicable disease on every policy. Our premises liability accounts, both primary and excess, exclude viruses, and our DNO book excludes bodily injury on every policy. Of course, upon receipt of any claim, we will conduct a thorough investigation and proceed appropriately given the coverage in place, the allegations, and the circumstances. Regarding the impact on growth, a few thoughts. Kinsale grew 41% last year and 47% in the first quarter, principally due to dislocation within the broader P&C industry. After a long period of intense industry competition, many companies, standard and nonstandard, are restructuring their books of business, running off underperforming lines, reducing capacity, raising prices, and canceling programs. As a disciplined underwriting company that didn't lose its way during the soft period of the insurance cycle, Kinsale is not canceling or running off anything. We're working very hard to grow the business and expand our margins. Any slowdown in the PNC industry, and specifically the ENS market, due to an economic contraction, we expect to be offset by the continuing market dislocation. We expect this dislocation to continue for the remainder of 2020, and perhaps even into 2021. It's possible the coronavirus even adds to this level of dislocation. Time will tell. I'll now turn the call over to Brian Petruccelli.

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Brian Petrucelli
CFO

Thanks, Mike. And as Mike mentioned, we had another strong quarter and are encouraged by the premium growth and the profitability that we've been able to achieve, particularly given the impact of COVID-19 on overall economic conditions. Our goal is to consistently produce mid-80s combined ratios and mid-teens operating returns on equity. On our first quarter, 84% combined ratio and 17% annualized operating ROE are right in line with that guidance. The volatility in the financial markets towards the end of the quarter did have a negative impact on net income and comprehensive income. However, the markets have rebounded in April, and we've recovered approximately three-quarters of the unrealized investment losses that were incurred during the first quarter. We reported net income of $5.1 million for the first quarter of 2020, a decrease of 72.8 percent when compared to last year. And again, 2020 included $16 million or so in pre-tax unrealized losses on our equity investments. Net operating earnings increased by 24.5% up to $17.2 million compared to $13.8 million in the first quarter of last year. The company generated underwriting income of $14.4 million and a combined ratio of 83.9% compared to $12 million and 80.3% last year. Combined ratio for the first quarter of 2020 included 3.4 points from net favorable prior year loss reserve development compared to 10.4 points last year. As Mike mentioned, we've not received many claims directly related to COVID-19. However, we have experienced a slowdown in reported losses, which appears to be related to courts operating at limited capacity and other legal system inefficiencies related to COVID-19. We added some conservative some conservatism into our reserves and recorded approximately $5.4 million in additional IBNR in Q1 to account for any uncertainties related to COVID-19. Our effective income tax rate was a negative 1.1% for the quarter compared to 17.9% last year. The negative rate being driven by the discrete tax benefits recognized from the exercise of stock options during the quarter and the impact of unrealized losses related to our equity investments on quarterly taxable income. Gross written premiums were $124 million, representing a 47% increase over last year, for all the reasons that Mike previously mentioned, including continued market dislocation and sustained service levels. On the investment side, net investment income increased by 32% or so over last year, up to $6 million from $4.5 million last year. as a result of continued growth in the investment portfolio. Annual gross investment returns, excluding cash and cash equivalents, did decrease, however, to 2.9% from 3.2% last year, just given the lower interest rate environment here in the first quarter. Diluted earnings per share was 76 cents per share for the quarter compared to 64 cents per share last year. If you normalized our effective tax rate, the $0.76 would have been lowered by about $0.03 or so. With that, I'll pass it over to Brian Haney.

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Brian Haney
COO

Thanks, Brian. As mentioned earlier, premium grew 47% in the first quarter. The highest growth rates were in our commercial property, allied health care, excess casualty, inland marine, and management liability divisions. But in general, we saw strong growth across the portfolio. Our Sparrow business was up 29% for the quarter. We took significant rate actions in our personal insurance book, which, as you will recall, is focused on manufactured housing in the coastal states. This has led to a more modest growth in item count, but at a more attractive margin. Pre-coronavirus, submission growth was on track to be around 30% for the quarter. The first couple of weeks of the lockdown, the growth rate slowed to a single-digit rate, but has recovered significantly to the low to mid-20 range in the last two weeks. Weekly numbers can be volatile, but we are encouraged by the bounce back. During that brief submission slowdown, we made the best of the situation by improving our customer service and quote ratios. As you know, we frequently tout our technology as a competitive advantage. Sometimes it's hard to put that in perspective for the investor, but this situation provides an excellent example of how we really are different. In a matter of about a week, we went from having a small percentage of our staff working from home to having more than 90% working from home. We have not missed a beat. Among our underwriting staff, we had one person working from home before COVID and more than 90% after. With one month's worth of data to look at, it is clear we are getting out more quotes per underwriter than we did previously. So not only have we been able to smoothly transition to a work-from-home model, we've actually gotten better and more efficient. It's a testimony to the strength of our systems, the effectiveness of our IT team, and how hardworking and diligent our employees are. So while submission growth has moderated in response to the COVID situation, quote growth has stayed high, and combined with the rate increases, we've been able to continue to grow the premium at a healthy pace. The market dislocation we have discussed over the last year hasn't abated due to the virus. Accordingly, we continue to increase rates in response to market conditions. As a reminder, we have a very heterogeneous book of business, which complicates reducing all the rate movement to a single number. But that all being said, we see rates being up in the plus 10 to plus 12% range in the aggregate during the first quarter. And with that, I'll turn it back over to Mike.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Thanks, Brian. Operator, we're now ready for any questions that come in.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Certainly. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. To withdraw your question, press the pound key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question comes from the line of Matt Carletti with JMP Securities. Hey, good morning.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Good morning, Matt.

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Matt Carletti
Analyst, JMP Securities

I've got a couple questions. First is just a clarification just following on Brian's comments there. That commentary about the brief slowdown and then quickly rebounded to the mid-20s, is that a submission count growth you're talking about and not a premium level, so not taking into account pricing or exposure, just the submission count? Correct. Correct. Okay, perfect. And then my other question relates to another numbers question, just the small amount of the favorable prior period development in the quarter. Can you give any color kind of where that came from accident year? Were there larger puts and takes, or was it just kind of very small movement across the board?

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

We don't have any specific info. I think it was generally across the board, Matt.

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Matt Carletti
Analyst, JMP Securities

Okay, great. Wonderful. That's all I got. Thank you very much, and best of luck.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Thanks, Matt.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Mark Hughes with SunTrust. Yeah, thank you. Good morning.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Good morning, Mark.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

Could you talk about just what you've seen with small accounts? Obviously a lot of concern about what happens in small business. What is your experience so far? What do you anticipate?

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Yeah, I mean, we as a company definitely focus on small accounts. You know, our average premium is generally in that $10,000 per policy range. You know, clearly there's a lot of dislocation in the economy now. You see all the headlines, but I think our business, you know, we've kind of laid out exactly what we're seeing, right? We saw a material drop-off in submissions for a few weeks. We've seen a real nice rebound, not back to the 30%, but into the 20% range. The premium growth has been less impacted, and I think Brian noted part of that is rate increases. Part of that is we've been able to quote a higher percentage of the submissions that come in.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

How about cancellations or midterm premium adjustments? Any sign of that happening?

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Yeah, I mean, we're doing a lot of one-off accommodations. If someone calls and says, hey, my business has been shut down for two months, you know, okay, why don't we extend your expiration date by two months for no additional premium, right, and just kind of working those things out on a case-by-case basis.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

And... how material has that activity been?

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

It hasn't been overwhelming, but there's clearly a number of transactions every day. I mean, keep in mind, we write tens of thousands of policies. We have hundreds of thousands of submissions. So, in the grand scheme of things, it hasn't been dramatic enough that it's impacted our top line. But we're trying to do the right thing. This is an incredible you know, crisis that's come up very suddenly, and we want to treat our policyholders fairly. And, you know, that's essentially what we're doing.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

Brian, you had mentioned you put $5.4 million in additional IB&R in one queue. Could you expand on that? Is that to say that you're – was this tied to the drop in claims? Given the claims, you would have normally booked – lower losses that you added to the IBNR for conservatism's sake?

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Hey, Mark, this is Mike again. Yeah, we noticed a modest downtick in claim frequency, you know, but the real driver is just kind of the general uncertainty created by this crisis. You know, you can read all the commentary out there about its possible impact on the P&C industry. You know, we feel that we're very well positioned, but, you know, there's still a lot of uncertainty out there. And so, you know, we're just trying to drive a little bit of additional conservatism in our IV&R.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

So you're suggesting that in other things being equal with the claims volume, with the pricing, the loss pick might have been lower, $5.4 million lower, but you added some additional conservatism.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Yeah.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay. How about the expense ratio was quite good. You appear to be getting operating leverage. I think you said in the past that you think 25 is kind of a good number, 25, 26. This is, I think, 24. Should we expect a lower number to be sustainable?

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Brian Petrucelli
CFO

You know, Mark, I think, you know, that 25%, I think it's probably a good number. Obviously, premium is growing. We're adding staff in the underwriting areas and some in the IT areas. We're monitoring what's going on with the premium, and we'll add staff accordingly. But I think, just like we always have, I think we're very conscious on managing expenses to a reasonable level. You know, it's going to ebb and flow a little bit, but, you know, I'd say the 24.5, 25 is probably a good place to look.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

And how about any commentary on pricing trends as you've seen them in April? I think, Mike, you said you expect the dislocation to continue through 2020. Do no change in that upward trajectory in April?

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Brian Haney
COO

Yeah, this is Brian. No, no change. We're still pushing right, and there's really no change in the trajectory.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

And then I'll ask, any noteworthy change in Lloyd's? I just was intrigued to see they seemed to trim some of their exposure in California in the first quarter. And they have been – I guess at least the latest data wasn't clear that they were reducing the ENS business. Anything from Lloyd's or maybe just more broadly about the dislocation?

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Yeah, Mark, this is Mike again. I don't think we want to comment on competitors. We'll let them speak for themselves. But in general, I think to Brian's point, right, the dislocation in the market is continuing. You know, we went through a long period of very intense price competition. I don't think it's unusual that it takes the industry a little bit of time to kind of get things on track, right? So that's why we made that comment. And obviously, we're speculating. We don't know definitively how the year is going to unfold. But our general guess at this point is that the, you know, the trading environment in terms of, rate trends and reduction in capacity and all these restructurings that are ongoing, we think that's going to continue for the balance of the year.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Ron Bobman with Capital Returns.

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Ron Bobman
Analyst, Capital Returns

Hi, and thanks again for taking my questions. I'm wondering... without sort of addressing the competitive questions that were just asked, I'm wondering if you could sort of come at it from a different way. Are you seeing any change to your buying to quote ratio of late? No. Okay. And then separately, there's a reasonable probability that there's going to be a lot more pain for certain lines of business by virtue of the pandemic and the weakening economy. And I mean, it's conceivable that some segments could actually sort of approach sort of crisis mode where there's just not enough capacity in certain lines. Are there opportunities that are sort of on your radar where you may enter a new line if it were to approach that that are sort of on a short list if rates move in terms of conditions move to such a dramatic effect?

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

I would say we're always looking to – We're always looking for new opportunities. We're always working on incremental expansion of our product line. Keep in mind, we write on non-admitted or excess and surplus lines paper only. And I think some of the areas you're talking about, if it's, you know, I'll just use surety as an example, right? You have to have licensed paper for that. So the answer is yes, we're always looking to expand, but we're also near term, you know, just looking at the ENS market.

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Ron Bobman
Analyst, Capital Returns

Okay. Thanks a lot.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Thanks, Ron.

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Operator
Conference Operator

And as a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question, please press star 1 on your telephone. Once again, if you have a question, press star 1. And I'm showing no further questions at this time. So with that, I'll turn the call back over to CEO Michael Kehoe for closing remarks.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Yeah, we'll take it. Do we have one more call, operator?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Or one more question? Yes, I see we just had Sam Hoffman from Lincoln Square queue up. Sir, your line is now open.

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Sam Hoffman
Analyst, Lincoln Square

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. And I'm just following up on Mark's question where you said that the cancellations and midterm premium adjustments were relatively minor at this point. To what extent do you believe that these are lagging indicators? and that they should increase dramatically in the second quarter because, you know, I guess maybe your insurance company might be the last party that you would call, you know, at the beginning of a crisis. And so how do you think about that, you know, going forward in terms of your expectations to receive, you know, additional cancellations and midterm adjustments?

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Well, I would just say as an E&S company that focuses on small commercial buyers, We have a very high volume of cancellations every day of the week in a normal operating environment, right? It's not unusual that small businesses don't pay their premium promptly or somebody buys coverage because they're a contractor and they get a job where the general contractor requires it. The job's over in three months. They cancel the policy. You know, we're six weeks into it, Brian, eight weeks.

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Brian Haney
COO

We're not seeing an upward trend in the requests. If anything, it's slightly downward. And it is – I wouldn't characterize it as material at all.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Yeah. So, I mean, it's possible that it picks up, but we feel pretty good about that that's not going to be a big problem for us.

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Sam Hoffman
Analyst, Lincoln Square

And is this different from your experience in previous recessions, like the financial crisis, or consistent? Yeah.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

I think it's consistent. I mean, if you look back at the ENS market broadly during the 2008 recession, you know, the ENS market did shrink a couple percentage points, but, you know, it's an industry where, you know, our customers are typically buying insurance because it's compulsory, either their landlord or The general contractor requires it, or if you work for the highway department, they require the coverage. If your product's being sold through a retail store, the retailer requires the coverage. So you don't have wild swings in revenue volatility like you might have in other industries like, say, auto manufacturing. We're kind of insulated, I think, from some of that dynamic.

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Sam Hoffman
Analyst, Lincoln Square

Okay, I missed the very beginning of the call, but did you comment on your exposure to restaurants and bars and retail and other types of industries that are shut down and how that affects what we're talking about?

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

We did as respects the property book. We write commercial property. That was 8% of our premium volume last year. And our property book is skewed You know, heavily in favor of a more industrial type exposure. So, you know, warehouses and processing facilities, recyclers. You know, we have very, very limited exposure to, I think, the type of occupancies you're talking about in our property book. Restaurants, theaters, gyms, things like that. We think anecdotally that overwhelmingly our insureds continue to operate during this crisis. It's not to say universally, but most of them we think are. And that, combined with our coverage limitations, you know, we think put us in a very good spot in terms of exposure to COVID-related claims.

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Sam Hoffman
Analyst, Lincoln Square

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Okay. Thanks, Sam.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. I will now turn the call back over to CEO, Mr. Michael Kehoe, for closing remarks.

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Michael Kehoe
President and CEO

Thank you, Operator, and thanks, everybody, for joining us on the call today. And stay well, and we look forward to speaking with you again in a few months. Have a good day.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.

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