7/31/2020

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Operator
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to Kingsville Capital Group's second quarter 2020 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during that session of the call, you will need to press star one on your telephone. If you require any further assistance, please press star and zero. Before we get started, let me remind everyone that through the course of the teleconference, teams' self-management may make comments that reflect their intentions, beliefs, and expectations for the future. As always, these forward-looking statements are subject to certain risk factors which could cause actual results to differ materially. These risk factors are listed in the company's various SEC filings, including the second quarter 2020 quarterly report on Form 10-Q and the 2019 annual report on Form 10-K. should be reviewed carefully. The company has furnished a form 8K with the Securities and Exchange Commission that contains the press release announcing its second quarter results. King Sales Management may also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures in the call today. A reconciliation of GAAP to these measures can be found in the press release, which is available at the company's website at www.KinselCapitalGroup.com. I will now turn the conference over to Kinsel's President and CEO, Mr. Michael Keel. Please go ahead, sir.

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Thank you, Operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on the call today. With me are Brian Petrucelli, Kinsel's CFO, and Brian Heaney, Kinsel's COO. I will begin our presentation, and then Brian Petrucelli will cover the financial performance for the quarter, and then Brian Haney will provide some color on the market and our underwriting operation. Last night, Kinsale reported operating earnings of 84 cents per diluted share for the second quarter of 2020, up 47 percent from the second quarter of 2019. Gross written premium was up 41 percent for the quarter, notwithstanding the disruption of the COVID virus, the company posted an 83.8% combined ratio and a 16.9% annualized operating return on equity for the six months ending June 30, 2020. The ConSale strategy of disciplined and highly controlled underwriting, combined with technology-driven low costs and a focus on the ENS market, is propelling our profitability and growth, and we believe will continue to do so over the long term. In addition to our own business strategy, our growth is being enhanced by a growing level of dislocation within the P&C market. After many years of intense competition, some competitors are experiencing adverse results and are withdrawing capacity, canceling some programs, raising prices, et cetera. We expect this dislocation to continue, thereby allowing Kinsale to grow at an elevated rate, perhaps through 2021. At some point thereafter, we expect the level of dislocation to abate and our growth rate to normalize, perhaps in the low double-digit range. Beyond the accelerated growth, industry dislocation is also allowing Kinsale to raise rates and in some cases restrict coverage to further expand our profit margins. To take full advantage of this market opportunity, there is a possibility Kinsale could raise a modest amount of equity capital before year end. At the end of the first quarter 2020, we noted that we did not expect the COVID-19 virus to have a material impact on Kinsale's profitability or growth. Three months later, we have the exact same position. The temporary drop-off in March in the growth of new business submissions reversed within a couple of weeks, and we have experienced a V-shaped recovery in submission activity and premium. On the claim side, three months ago we noted a small number of claims wherein all policies involved had coverage exclusions that we anticipated would preclude any payout. We are essentially in a similar place today. A small number of claims against policies with coverage defenses in place. We don't see any material impact to either growth or profitability arising from the COVID-19 virus. And now I'll turn the call over to Brian Petruccelli.

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Brian Petrucelli
CFO

Thanks, Mike. The premium growth and the profitability that Mike just mentioned is encouraging. given the less than ideal economic conditions generated by COVID-19 in the second quarter. Just as a reminder, our primary goals as a company are to consistently produce mid-80s combined ratios and mid-teens operating returns on equity. In our second quarter, 83.9% combined ratio and 16.9% annualized operating ROE are right in line with that guidance. We reported net income of $30.3 million for the second quarter of 2020, representing an increase of 120% when compared to $13.8 million last year. Net income this quarter included $13 million or so in pre-tax unrealized gains on our equity investments as the financial markets came back our way and recovered nicely from the significant declines in the first quarter that were driven by the equity market's reaction to COVID-19. Net operating earnings, which excludes the volatility from investment gains and losses, increased by 54% up to $19 million compared to $13.5 million in the second quarter of 2019. The company generated underwriting income of $15.7 million in a combined ratio of 83.8% compared to $10 million and 84.8% last year. The combined ratio for the second quarter of 2020 included 3.7 points from net favorable prior year loss reserve development compared to 2.2 points last year. Our effective income tax rate for the first six months of 2020 was 14.8%, and again, includes discrete tax benefits recognized from the exercise of stock options during the period. Gross written premiums were $134 million, representing a 41% increase over last year, for all the reasons that Mike previously mentioned, including the continued market dislocation and sustained service levels. On the investment side, net investment income increased by 38% over the second quarter last year, up to $6.6 million from $4.8 million last year as a result of continued growth in the investment portfolio. Annualized gross investment returns, excluding cash and cash equivalents, did decrease, however, to 3% from 3.2% last year, just given lower interest rate environment. Diluted operating EPS was 84 cents per share for the quarter compared to 57 cents per share last year. And with that, I'll pass it over to Brian Haney.

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Brian Heaney
COO

Thanks, Brian. As mentioned earlier, premium grew 41% in the second quarter. That is lower than the 47% growth rate in the first quarter. There are two big competing factors that have been affecting our growth rate, the hardening E&S market and the COVID-related lockdowns. The bulk of the effect of COVID was felt in the second quarter. that peaked or bottomed out, depending on your perspective, in April. Since then, we've seen significant recovery in the growth rate. Anecdotally, I could say that the growth rate in June was essentially the same rate as the growth rate in January. So, while COVID is undoubtedly still weighing on economic growth and our opportunities somewhat, that effect is being overwhelmed by the impact of the hardening of the E&S market. I would say at this point, all the markets we compete in are trending in the direction of harder than others. The excess casualty, commercial property, and allied health spaces are probably in the vanguard of market hardening. Years of bad underwriting and overly aggressive behavior in the market have led to seriously poor results and forced the more undisciplined among the competition to significantly pull back. Some competitors have been compelled to dramatically increase their rates, which had been inadequate for many long years of the soft market. They've also had to tighten terms and conditions, re-underwrite some books of business, reduce limits, exit some classes of business entirely, and terminate some programs. All of this has led to more opportunity for us. We have maintained underwriting discipline throughout the soft market, so we are not now being forced to pull back in the hardening market. Submission growth was 24 percent in the second quarter, down slightly from 25 percent in the first quarter. But, as I mentioned earlier, the COVID effects were worst in April. Based on what we saw in June, we believe growth rates and submissions have essentially returned to pre-COVID levels, even though there's undoubtedly still some ongoing effect from the lockdowns. As for rates, we are still pushing them up in response to market conditions. As a reminder, we have a very heterogeneous book of business, which complicates reducing all the rate movements to one single number. But that all being said, we see rates being up in the 10 to 12 percent range in the aggregate during the second quarter. What is not reflected in this 10% to 12% rate increase, however, are terms and conditions. As the market has hardened, we have also been pushing more favorable terms and conditions. Even though that may not be reflected in rate changes, it does affect profit margins, so we expect that 10% to 12% might understate the change in profitability in the book. And with that, I'll turn it back to Mike.

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Thanks, Brian. Operator, we're ready to open up the line for questions now. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

And as a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question, just press star 1 to get in the queue. And our first question is from Matt Carletti with JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

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Matt Carletti
Analyst, JMP Securities

Hey, good morning.

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Good morning, Matt.

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Matt Carletti
Analyst, JMP Securities

Hi. Mike, I was hoping – I mean, I appreciate your and Brian's comments on, you know, that submissions and premium growth are, you know, kind of back to pre-COVID levels. Could you just give us a little picture kind of during the quarter what you saw, kind of where it was, say maybe in April, May, June, and then if you have an early look at July, if you could offer that. I'm just curious of the progression.

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Yeah, we touched on this the last conference call that – at its most severe moment, you know, our growth rate in new submissions went from the high 20s to low 30s down to about 2% to 5%, right? So we saw this, you know, dramatic drop-off in the growth rate. But that was, you know, for a couple-week period, and then there was a, you know, kind of the V-shaped recovery, if you will. Premium was never that dramatic. I mean, premium, you know, we don't track the premium by day, and, you know, we don't have that detail to provide. But on a monthly basis, you didn't see nearly that kind of drop in premium.

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Matt Carletti
Analyst, JMP Securities

Okay, great. And then just one other one. I had a question on the expense ratio. It was – you know, took a nice step down in the quarter. And just curious, are there any kind of one-time or we've seen that some other companies kind of COVID-related, you know, benefits there, or is that just the leverage in the model as the earned premium, you know, catches up with the gross written, you're getting expense ratio leverage on the bottom line?

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

I'm going to let Brian pitch for Sally. Why don't you handle that one?

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Brian Petrucelli
CFO

Yeah, Matt, that's exactly what you're seeing. You know, we are hiring, you know, folks in our underwriting and claims and IT area just to kind of keep up with our growth, but it's at a much lower rate than what we're seeing from a premium growth perspective. So I think you're just seeing some economies of scale there.

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Matt Carletti
Analyst, JMP Securities

Great. Thank you. Well done, and best of luck going forward.

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Thanks, Matt.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Mark Hughes with Sontra. Please go ahead.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, Sontra

Yeah. Thank you. Good morning. Good morning, Mark. Brian Haney. you had suggested June was back to January levels, or it's comparable to January. We do assume that's sort of the 47% premium growth we had in Q1. Is that kind of what you're saying?

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Brian Heaney
COO

We don't have those details to provide. I was just giving that just to put in context what Mike was saying about how growth rates had recovered.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, Sontra

Right. So June being better than the quarter as a whole. And felt similar to January, is your point?

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Brian Heaney
COO

Yes. June was much higher than April and May.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, Sontra

Yeah. And that same momentum presumably continues into July, as you see it?

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Well, we're not going to, I don't think we're going to comment on the third quarter yet. But, you know, I think if you go back to the remarks I made in the intro, Mark, that, you know, we do have a certain sense of optimism as to where the hardening of the E&S market is going, and we feel like we've got a pretty strong opportunity, certainly through 2020 and perhaps through 2021, but I'm not sure we want to get into specifics of the third quarter just yet.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, Sontra

Understood. How about in terms of claims activity, both the new claims on the current year and then what you've seen on older claims, how they've developed through this period with the courts shut down, et cetera?

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Yeah, we don't have anything to report in terms of any kind of material changes. There have been, you know, I think the courts in general, this varies tremendously by state and even sometimes within each state, you know, exactly what the interruption is. But in general, yes, the courts have been closed down. We don't try a very large percentage of cases, but, you know, the slowdown in the court system probably has had some modest impact on the progression of claims being resolved. You know, certainly we try to account for those type of adjustments in our reserving. Keep in mind that we frequently talk about our focus on trying to post reserves that are conservative, more likely to develop favorably than not, and we certainly think we're very much on track to do that. But, yeah, there probably is a slowdown at some level, although, you know, we're still opening new claims and closing old claims at a pretty good had a pretty good clip. So that would be my thoughts.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, Sontra

Understood. And Q1, you talked about putting some extra amount into IBNR, I think related to the current accident year. Any dynamic like that this quarter?

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

You know, in the first quarter, you know, we got into the weeds a little bit just because of the dramatic nature of the virus and its impact on the economy and I think there was a lot of investor concern about its impact on the PNC industry. Um, I'm not sure we're going to go into that level of detail every quarter, but what I would say is that the, um, I think it was 5.4 million that we put up in Q1 that wasn't specifically, um, COVID exactly. It was more or less a reaction to, uh, you know, the, um, uncertainty created by COVID, um, you know, the impact on the industry, the shutdown, you know, and its impact on the economy, et cetera. But in general, I would say, you know, Kinsale in general has avoided the lines of business that are most exposed to litigation or claims coming out of the virus. I'm thinking of things like mortgage insurance, trade credit, event cancellation, things like that, we're not exposed at all. We do write property business, of course, commercial property, but it's heavily skewed toward more of an industrial exposure. So there's a, you know, most of our insureds were not shut down during the virus, the way maybe restaurants and hotels were. And then we have very strict coverage defenses in place that if you look at the combination of all of those factors, I think, you know, that's how we conclude that we really don't expect any kind of material impact on the business in terms of our loss ratio or growth too. But so, you know, that's probably the best way to address it. We do always strive to be conservative in the reserving and, you know, that goes for the second quarter just like every other quarter.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, Sontra

One final question, if I might. The excess casualties, you said that was one of the lines where you're seeing a lot of opportunity. Would you anticipate outsized growth there, and does that have an impact on the seeded premium ratio?

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

I'm going to turn that one over to Brian Haney.

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Brian Heaney
COO

To the extent that the growth there outstrips the growth in The rest of the book, yes. But, I mean, Allied Health is also growing, and so there's other lines that are growing pretty significantly, too. So it's tough to say. I mean, it could.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, Sontra

No obvious mix shift?

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Brian Heaney
COO

No.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, Sontra

No, it could.

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Brian Heaney
COO

Because, I mean, because basically every line is growing. It's just a question of how fast.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, Sontra

Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much. Thanks, Mark.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Roland Mayer with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

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Roland Mayer
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Good morning, guys. Good morning. So a couple quick ones on the balance sheet. First, can you remind us what's in that other liabilities line and why it's gone from less than $1 million to $20 million this year?

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Brian Petrucelli
CFO

Brian? Yeah, this is Brian. It includes things like securities payable. There's some liabilities in there with respect to the building, you know, our headquarters that's currently under construction. And that's really the majority of that.

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Roland Mayer
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah, it makes sense. And that headquarters, is it still on track to be done sort of in Q3? Or has there been delays?

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Brian Petrucelli
CFO

No, we're largely on target. I think, and Mike, you correct me if I've got this wrong, I think we're looking sort of mid-September-ish, you know, mid-September or late September to complete that.

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Roland Mayer
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. And then one last final one. The investment portfolio duration is up a bit and the credit quality is down a bit from year end. Anything notable going on there and should we get used to that longer term?

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Brian Petrucelli
CFO

I think it's just a modest adjustment in our portfolio to take advantage of some of the dislocation that you saw in the markets related to COVID, I wouldn't expect any dramatic change in duration going forward.

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Roland Mayer
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. And is equities still going to be about 10% of the portfolio, or are you seeing opportunities there?

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Brian Petrucelli
CFO

Yeah, I wouldn't expect too much of an increase there. We did add to our position a little bit to take advantage of the severe decline in the market in the March-April timeframe, but I wouldn't expect it to increase much more than 10%.

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Roland Mayer
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay, perfect. Thank you for your answers. That was all I had. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. And our last question is from Jeff Schmidt with William Blair. Please go ahead.

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Jeff Schmidt
Analyst, William Blair

Hi. Good morning. I apologize. I came on a little late, but did you touch on or could you touch on the rate increases you're seeing in some of your lines of business?

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Yeah, Brian Haney, do you want to take that one?

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Brian Heaney
COO

Yeah, I think what was said was rates are up 10% to 12% in the aggregate. You know, we don't generally go into detail about differences in lines, but I would say that I mentioned that the allied health manager liability commercial property, excess casualty spaces were more hard than others. So you can infer that those rates are going up higher than average.

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Jeff Schmidt
Analyst, William Blair

Okay. And then you've historically been kind of conservative with loss picks in the first half. I mean, it seems like that was the case here with Q1 in particular. and then you would see sort of lower picks in the second half. Is there anything that would change that this year, or do you think that will be the case?

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Yeah, I don't know that we have any kind of real seasonality to our loss reserving. I think, you know, our goal is, of course, to put forth our best estimate, but tempered with a very strong measure of conservatism to account for the fact that it's, it can be an uncertain business. And, you know, we really strive to be conservative and cautious in how we set those estimates. We want investors to have a lot of confidence in our balance sheet. And in general, I think we've been successful. You know, we're not a company that's been around for decades, but we are in our 11th accident year now. And all of our accident years except for 2011 have developed favorably on an you know, inception-to-date basis. So, you know, I think we've got a good track record and, you know, we're looking to build on that. Brian Petrucelli, would you add anything to that?

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Brian Petrucelli
CFO

Yeah, I think that's a good way to describe it, Mike.

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Jeff Schmidt
Analyst, William Blair

Okay. And then what was the impact of exposure on GPW growth in the quarter?

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Brian Haney, you want to take that?

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Brian Heaney
COO

Yeah, we don't have those exact figures. I would just be speculating if I answered it. I would say it was probably – had probably less of an impact – or let's put it this way. Exposure growth probably contributed less to our growth in the second quarter than it did in previous quarters because of the effects of COVID.

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Jeff Schmidt
Analyst, William Blair

Right. But it wasn't negative? It stayed positive, you think?

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Brian Heaney
COO

Yeah, I think it stayed positive because I think the majority of the businesses we insure didn't actually shut down during the lockdown.

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Mark Hughes
Analyst, Sontra

Okay. Okay. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. And this concludes our Q&A session for today. I would like to turn the call to Michael Keel for his final remarks.

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Michael Keel
President and CEO

Okay. Well, thank you, Operator, for organizing the call, and thank you for everybody who participated. And we look forward to speaking with you again here in a few months. Have a great day.

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Operator
Conference Operator

And with that, we thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for participating in today's conference. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.

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