Kansas City Southern

Q2 2021 Earnings Conference Call

7/16/2021

spk14: combination that is that is focused on consolidation or eliminating options or facilities it is all about growth and as you see in some of the appendix material we have been blessed with a very strong and widespread support for the merger and over 1700, close to 1800 letters now supporting the transaction. We are confident that the voting trust that we are proposing meets the STV requirements for insulation from control and the public interest requirements and specifically the financial viability of both Canadian National and KCS during the voting trust period. Moving on to slide six, this is a very brief timeline past the completion. You can see the first items on the left are completed. The next milestone, as I mentioned a few minutes ago, is the August 19th special meeting of Kansas City Southern stockholders. And the proxy material has been circulated. We will fall back and refer to that proxy statement on a number of questions, and we'll be happy to explain anything that's in that proxy further. As far as other milestones, these are really expectations. As you know, the Surface Transportation Board will take whatever time they need, and we respect that requirement. As far as the completion of their review and a determination regarding the voting trust, our expectation is that that will come in the second half of this year. And then beyond that, again, is our expectation that a decision on the merger would be the second half of 2022. And of course, the voting trust would remain in place until we have full SBB approval. And then wrapping up the merger discussion on slide seven, just reiterating again, this combination is pro-competitive and we believe will yield significant public benefits. Some of those benefits are stated on this slide. I won't read them. And then importantly, the CNKCS filings on July 6th in response to public comments and opposition to the merger, we think are very strong and powerful and are available on our website as well as the website for our transaction, which is connectedcontinent.com. And the voting trust approval, which is the stage that we're in now, We are very confident that the Voting Trust satisfies the requirements for independence and public interest and the financial viability of both CN and KCS during the Voting Trust period is assured. Moving on just now to a few slides on the quarter. Second quarter revenue increased by 37%. from the previous year, gross ton miles up 30%, volumes up with 21%, I'm sorry, 31%. Obviously, the headline here is easy comps as a result of the COVID collapse in business that occurred in the second quarter of 2020. Our results were clouded by the accounting treatment of the $700 million termination fee for the Canadian Pacific transaction. Mike Upchurch will get into some of those details later. I would like to draw your attention for purposes of our really representation of our underlying performance to the adjusted numbers shown on this slide. Second quarter adjusted operating ratio of 61.4, which was a 380 basis point improvement versus last year. And adjusted diluted earnings per share of $2.06, which was a 79% improvement from last year, again, on an adjusted basis. Moving on to slide nine, our outlook. There are a couple of changes. to this slide from what you saw in January and April. Revenue growth, we're confirming our guidance from previous quarters of double-digit revenue growth in 2021 for the full year. Operating ratio, we are changing our full year operating ratio guidance to about 60 percent, approximately 60 percent for the full year. That is revised from 57.5 guidance that we had provided earlier. The headlines to that revision are a number of factors that you all are very aware of in general. The chip shortages that have affected the auto industry and certainly our automotive business has been affected by that. As evidence is recently, as earlier this week, we have been informed of three new planned plant outages in Mexico. Mike Nats is here to answer any questions about that in greater detail. But as you all know, that chip shortage that's really plagued many industries across North America has been a bit of a moving target and difficult to predict how long that's going to last. In addition to that, in our case, there have been disruptions in the flow of refined products into Mexico due to some regulatory developments and other factors that are more unique to Kansas City Southern that have affected both our performance and our outlook for the full year. Those developments have created some additional congestion in addition to other factors So there is a bit of an increase in congestion-related costs. And then in addition to those factors, the extended impact on the expense side of our business related to the polar vortex and other delayed plant openings all contribute to our revised guidance here in operating ratio for the full year. And Mike Upchurch will provide more color regarding the path to our 2022 guidance in a few minutes. Earnings per share, we have made a slight revision to our guidance there for the full year at approximately $9 a share in 2021 versus in the prior two quarters, our guidance was greater than $9 a share. So a slight revision to that guidance. And then beyond that, our longer-term EPS guidance as well as our capital expenditure and free cash flow guidance remains unchanged from the previous two quarters. Moving on to slide 10, key operating metrics. Wish this chart had a little more green on it, but again, there's some explanations that go behind the numbers. Looking at train velocity and terminal dwell, those numbers are considerably below and worse than a year ago for the second quarter. But remember what had happened a year ago with the rapid downturn in business volumes during the second quarter of 2020. A good way to think of that is There weren't many cars on the freeway at this time last year, so our speed and our dwell were at very high levels. This year, our volumes recovered, and we had other issues to deal with, including some of the weather-related issues and the regulatory developments in refined products that I mentioned a couple of minutes ago. So our network was much busier. And these statistics reflect a combination of those factors in the second quarter of 2020. I'll draw your attention to the four boxes in yellow at the bottom of this page that are highlighted. And these are some of the things that we have done intentionally to support the service recovery as well as the increase in volume and outlook that we have for the rest of the year. We have proactively brought additional power online leading to a 39% increase in active locomotives. We have also proactively added crew starts and hired additional crews in the transportation and mechanical areas leading to the year-over-year headcount increases that you see on this slide. Again, all of this is to support our service recovery and to be prepared for volume growth we see for the rest of the year and beyond. And then finally on slide 11, you can see the impact that some of those moves have resulted in, in terms of the additional resources and other initiatives and the impact they're having on our most recent velocity and dwell trends, which are very encouraging. I called out a number of things on this slide, including the Monterey team engagement effort and the Sanchez team engagement effort. I would encourage someone to ask a question of John Orr later about what's behind that and some of the things that we are doing and John and his team are doing to really heighten the focus and accountability on our performance measures. A lot of those are built around infrastructure and aligning processes, org structures, and resources for a more precise service delivery product. So with that, I will turn the presentation over to Mike Upchurch.
spk12: Thanks, Pat, and good morning, everyone. I'm going to start my comments on the quarter here. I'll cover revenue and volumes in a little bit more detail on the next slide, but you can see revenue grew 37% on 31% volume growth. Our reported operating ratio of 157.6% does include $721 million of merger costs we incurred during the second quarter, including the break fee of $700 million. we paid when we officially terminated the merger agreement with Canadian Pacific on May 21st. As you might remember, CN paid us $700 million to reimburse us for this break fee, but because there are certain potential repayment obligations, we have recorded the CN reimbursement as a liability on the balance sheet. Once shareholders vote for the merger, the break fee received from CN will no longer be reimbursable And accordingly, we would record to income the $700 million reimbursement, effectively offsetting the break fee that we paid the CP in the second quarter. So you have the expense in the second quarter, the offsetting income we would expect to be recorded in the third quarter. And as Pat mentioned, our shareholder vote is currently August 19th. Excluding merger costs, adjusted OR was 61.4%. a 380 basis point improvement over a prior year. We did incur several headwinds during the quarter, which I will discuss in more detail on the expense slide, but generally included an approximately 200 basis point headwind from network congestion, including higher overtime and re-cruise, car hire increases from elongated cycle times, and incremental costs from resources we put in place to improve our service and support our future growth. We also recorded 120 basis point one-time non-recurring contract dispute during the quarter. Our reported diluted EPS was a loss of $4.17. However, adjusted for FX and the previously mentioned merger costs, our adjusted diluted earnings per share was $2.06. up 79% from a year ago. And then finally, we had about a 40 basis point headwind from fuel surcharge lag where price increases create a negative lag before we can recover those in our fuel surcharge program. So turning to the next slide, let me cover revenue. Revenue for the quarter was up 37% on a volume increase of 31%. Excluding fuel prices and foreign exchange, revenue was up 30%. All business segments saw year-over-year volume and revenue growth. And let me address the negative mix you see in the revenue per unit table on the top right of this slide. We did see core pricing gains in the quarter. However, lower revenue per unit segments, like energy, saw growth rates creating higher growth rates creating some negative mix in the quarter. We've been very pleased with the revenue growth so far this year, and our results continue to be on track with our guidance established earlier this year. Despite what happened with the polar vortex in the first quarter, the auto chip shortage that has severely impacted auto production across the entire globe, and increased regulations in Mexico, related to the importation of refined products. Our franchise has shown remarkable resiliency, despite some of these exogenous factors that have suppressed some of our growth potential. But again, we expect to lead the industry in volume growth during 2Q. Cross-border volumes grew 42% and revenues 53%. Star performers for us in Cross-border was intermodal growth revenue at 49%, and Mexican energy reform grew 121%. Core pricing and contract renewals were essentially in line with the first quarter, but we're clearly seeing inflationary pressures that will need to be addressed going forward. As we look into the back half of 21, we would expect the auto chip shortage to continue to negatively impact our growth with a strong bounce back late in the year and into 2022 as auto demand continues to be extremely high and dealer inventories at all-time lows. We'll also begin shipping Western Canadian crude into the new Port Arthur crude terminal in the second half of July, and we would expect that terminal will gradually ramp up, whereby we will be moving approximately 15 to 20 trains per month by the end of the third quarter, so a fairly rapid acceleration of volumes. Turning to expenses on the next slide, adjusted operating expenses increased 29%. Some of that due to comps relating to the pandemic from a year ago, as we saw significantly higher volumes. But we also saw higher fuel prices, foreign exchange impact. and significant cost increases as a result of network congestion. As Pat mentioned, we're clearly not operating as well as we expect and saw productivity decline during the quarter as we in-serviced new locomotives and had added headcount to stabilize our service and prepare for what we believe to be substantial increases in volume starting here in the third quarter. Key expense drivers were fuel expense increased 19%, $13 million from volume and GTM increases, $16 million increase to expense from foreign exchange, which of course is largely offset in revenue, $10 million from higher overtime and higher recruits as we deployed additional transportation resources to stabilize service. Headcount declined 1% year-over-year, but grew 2% sequentially, still well below the 5% sequential volume increase that we saw from 1Q to 2Q. We also had a $9 million expense from a one-time contract dispute, $6 million increase in materials and parts due to a larger locomotive fleet, and the GTM growth that we saw year over year, $6 million in increased equipment rents, which is split roughly equally due to volume and car cycle times, $6 million from wage and benefit inflation, and $4 million from higher year over year incentive comp due to the fact that we greatly reduced our incentive comp expense during the pandemic in 2Q a year ago. As we look into the second half, we do expect better productivity and we'll be extremely focused on better execution of the PSR principles SAMI has instilled at KCS over the past two years. As a reminder, we have successfully reduced expenses by an annual run rate of approximately $150 million going into 2022 as a result of these PSR initiatives and continue to target $250 million run rate now by 2023. One cost increase to inform you about in the second half of 2021, and we've discussed this at length in prior quarters, but we do now expect an approximate $8 million of incremental compensation expense related to the profit sharing from the passage of the labor reform in Mexico. However, going into 2022, we would expect any expense increases associated with the new labor law to be negligible. So let me wrap up with a little perspective on our outlook for the rest of the year and 2022. We expect the demand environment to hold up quite well as key macroeconomic factors, feedback from our customers, and new business opportunities continue to give us confidence in delivering superior growth. And that's despite all the challenges around the vortex and chip issues, et cetera, that we've mentioned. During the first half of the year, we had a couple of challenges, but essentially are on plan, on guidance with what we provided early in the year. And we think that that revenue outlook is certainly supportive of some of the supply chain challenges we're seeing across the board and pent up demand that's being built for vehicles, appliances, household goods, and a variety of raw materials. As we look at a variety of economic factors going into the rest of the year and into 2022, you know, we really believe we're going to see tremendous top line growth that we think going into 22 will allow us to deliver somewhere in the range of 150 to 200 basis point improvement to the operating ratio. And then turning the cost side, we can clearly execute better than we have and consistent with our PSR success in 2019 and 2020. We recently deployed some incremental resources, namely locomotives and transportation FTE to improve our network fluidity and prepare for continued growth in our business. This improvement in congestion plus favorable expense comparisons relative to the unplanned costs around the Mexican labor reform and the one-time contract dispute that I mentioned should allow us to achieve another 150 to 200 basis points of OR improvement. So collectively, you'll see our guide continues to believe we've got some substantial opportunities to improve operating ratio. So with that, I'll turn the call back to Pat for final remarks.
spk14: Okay, just a couple of comments before we open the lineup for questions. We've got the, as I mentioned, the entire executive team here happy to answer any questions about our performance, our outlook for business, our outlook for operating efficiencies, and those types of questions. Ashley advises me that we get a lot of questions about additional details, background, and other things that we will not be able to answer. The proxy statement is available. And while we're happy to provide any clarification on certain things in the proxy leading up to the shareholder vote, But a lot of questions that I know are out there, we're just going to rely on the proxy disclosure that's out there. So you might want to steer away from those kind of questions if you only have limited time. And then in that vein as well, I know there's a lot of question about the likelihood of various outcomes and responses from the STB. We will also not be in a position to answer those questions. As I said, our expectations are that the SDB will reach a decision in the second half of this year. But as I also mentioned, the SDB will take whatever time they deem is necessary to make a full and complete evaluation before making that decision. And we're just not going to speculate on time. on timing or outcomes beyond that. So with those sort of warnings, I suppose, we'll be happy to open the lineup for questions.
spk13: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. Due to the number of participants on this morning's call, management will limit you to one question and one follow-up question. At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from John Chappelle from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
spk15: Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Good morning. Maybe this doesn't matter in a month based on what the STB says, but if I can focus on the fundamentals and the operations a little bit here, and maybe at Pat's encouragement, I'll go to John Orr first. There's a lot of optimism about the back half of the year and the guidance. I mean, to get to the OR number for the full year, you need about 300 basis points improvement. To get to the EPS number, you need $5 after $4 in the first half of the year. yet there's a lot of challenges still out there, whether it's the planned outages of the auto plants in Mexico, the reduction of the flows into Mexico, the refined products. Maybe speak to us a little bit about the exit rate of some of your KPIs and your service metrics that gives you the confidence that you'll have that fluidity and that service to be able to meet these kind of lofty financial expectations for the second half of the year.
spk11: Yeah, thank you. You're absolutely right. We have a lot of momentum and we have a lot of challenges, but this team is certainly up to those challenges. I guess there's a couple of fronts. First and foremost is the field activity and the engagement in the field. And second is the network structure and the organizational structure that's better aligned for process improvement and asset management and accountability. And that's what supports the effectiveness of our service, the use of our plant, and the plan itself. And so as part of that, we have gone through a network reorganization with our network vice president, both accountable for the plan development and the plan execution. And in that, we've improved our service visibility and awareness at all levels, including the new delivery of asset levers that we can now see in order to create more resiliency and more precise fit for both our capacity and our resources. So it's the architecture that we've developed underneath our service plan to support it and create a balance of strategic and tactical deployment of assets. The velocity is one of the key drivers that everyone on the team, whether it's Mike Natz, Sammy Fahmy, or myself, really focus in on a daily basis. And that willingness to get into the weeds and drive performance with the team is showing the results. And if you look at where we see network performance improving and the impacts of the initiatives that are taking hold, Our velocity is improving. In fact, our velocity today is in line with the three to four-year average, taking the outlier of the COVID year out of the equation. The U.S. is recovering at a quicker pace. We are very comfortable at where the pace is and the path we're on, and I see that returning to close to the challenging number of a COVID target through Q3. Mexico velocity is showing the right trends. We still have some headwinds with COVID recovery not being as complete as it is in the U.S., so we still deal with those realities today. But with the initiatives that we focused in in Monterey and Sanchez, where we brought our team engagement to bear, where we take an integrated multifunctional team to decongest significant yards like Monterey, which is primarily a service yard, so that we can implement our view or implement better customer service and the effectiveness. And not only do we roll up our sleeves and work 24 hours a day, seven days a week to create a better plan and create better visibility. But we're also addressing the skills development of the local teams and the network support to build the organizational structure and create that better asset alignment and service visibility. And it comes down to the accountability that we're driving across all of our departments. In the case of Monterey and Sanchez, the heightened focus created more fluidity, it created more surge resilience, and these are again key service areas that really drive how Mexico goes and drives our ability to cross border. One of the key indices that I really looked at was our grain performance because it is really an end-to-end market for us. So a market segment that has handoffs with other railways, it spans most of the length of our network, and it has a really good sense of where our end-to-end supply chain capability looks like. And those numbers for grain in the last two months have picked up tremendously, and we're closing in on some record performance and even benchmarking against some of the best times from a capacity and fluidity perspective. So, you know, I would say it's the reorganization and the architecture that supports growth. It is the heightened accountability and visibility and leading indicators. It's support and education of our frontline and entire management staff. And at the same time, you know, we are underpinning everything with our safety values and our customer service values. So that's what gives me a lot of confidence that we're on the right path, and the leading indicators that we look at every day are pointing in that direction.
spk12: Hey, John, just real quickly. I mean, clearly we have an assumption here we're going to work our way out of some of the congestion and lower our operating costs, but don't forget that the first half of the year was pretty challenging with polar vortex and chip issues, and we're still sticking with our guidance for the full year on the top line. implying that we're going to have a really terrific back half of the year from a revenue perspective, including new business from this Port Arthur crude terminal. So that top line is certainly going to help significantly here.
spk15: Right. Super helpful answer, John. I almost feel bad asking a follow-up, but I know anyone else on this call would ask one. So, Mike, since I have you, you guys have been talking about the refined product opportunity in New Mexico and the huge numbers you've put around it. for quarter upon quarter. But now we have this new regulatory issue and then some of the congestion it's causing. Is there any way to frame either the lost revenue or the cost impact of these regulatory issues in New Mexico and also kind of the duration of how long you think this lasts?
spk12: Well, I think it's a temporary situation, John. You know, let me kind of back up to the macro environment here. The bottom line is two-thirds of Mexico's demand has to be imported, and most of that's coming from the U.S. And there's nobody better positioned than KCS to bring that from the U.S. Gulf Coast into Mexico. So that gives us a lot of confidence that this is still a great business for us. In fact, when you look at the share data, third parties' share of importation is of total demands actually increased from high teens to 25% this year. There is more product being shipped by companies like KCS. I think what's happening here, we've got half of our business in Unitrains, half of it in Manifest. It's the Manifest side of this that the government's doing a little more sampling to make sure that products are getting labeled properly. And it's created a little bit of a backlog. But just here recently, we cleared up a lot of that backlog, working with the regulators down in Mexico. And the demand dynamics are such that we think this is going to continue to be a really good business for us. So maybe just a short-term dislocation versus any kind of permanent impact to that business for us. Got it. Thank you, Mike. Thanks, John.
spk13: The next question comes from Amit Mehotra from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
spk06: Hey, thanks, operator. Hi, everybody. Pat, there's obviously a lot of headlines in the rail sector the last couple of weeks around regulatory and the Biden executive order. Wondering what you can talk about that. I mean, they obviously mentioned consolidation, not specifically at least. but then also the idea of reciprocal switching. You've obviously had time to think about it and what the impact is to your business and the industry as a whole. I'm wondering if you can comment at all in terms of what you think the implications are, if any.
spk14: I'll do my best, but it's really sort of unclear. If you think back, last week we had a a headline based upon a rumor that came out a day before the executive order, which was pretty shocking to everyone. And then when we saw the details in the executive order, I think people calmed down quite a bit. You know, one thing to remember, and I'm actually looking at the executive order here as I'm answering your question, and I've highlighted a few things here. This is literally a guidance to the SPB. The executive order includes language like, the chair of the surface transportation board is encouraged to work with the rest of the board to do the following. Consider rulemaking on reciprocal switching. Consider rulemaking on other relevant matters of competitive access. And then jumping ahead specifically to mergers, in the process of determining whether a merger acquisition or other transaction involving rail carriers is consistent with the public interest, and to consider fulfillment of other rules that are already existing. I think if you look at the path that has been laid out by the Canadian National using the current rules of the STB for mergers and the languages in this executive order, you know, one could conclude they're one and the same. So I don't think there's any different standard for evaluating a merger in the executive order that's, you know, inconsistent with what the current rules, the so-called new rules of the STB already involve. But as is always the case in situations like this, we really won't know the full impact on some of these things until time plays out. But we also know that the STB has a very full backlog and docket of activities, including rules on reciprocal switching that I think are going to be priorities of the STB in the near future, in addition to the merger activity that they have on their plate, including ours.
spk06: Okay. I appreciate you answering that question. The follow-up for me, I guess for Mike, you know, I think you guys have done a phenomenal job over the last couple of years. I mean, you've knocked the cover off the ball operationally quarter after quarter. So I don't want to extrapolate too much from a one-quarter blip, if you will, especially in the backdrop of the congestion that we're in. But, you know, Mike, the incremental margin assumed by your guidance next year is like north of 80%, which is a huge number. I understand some of the cost items in the first half, particularly in the first quarter. But, you know, a lot of these things that you're expecting to revert is a little bit difficult to have a lot of visibility on. And so why is 85% incrementals next year the right number given all that's going on today, especially all the resources you're throwing at trying to fix a lot of the issues? If you can just help us get some comfort and confidence around how you're thinking about the framework for next year as implied by the guidance. Thank you.
spk12: Sure, sure. I'll take a stab. And as I said in my prepared comments, we think we can get roughly half of this from the revenue side. line and roughly half of it from the cost side. But if you think about just a really incredibly strong demand environment and all the macroeconomic indicators, whether it's GDP or PMI or corporate investment, industrial production, inventories being at all-time lows, give us a lot of confidence around the top line. two-thirds to 70% incremental margins, you get a couple hundred basis points out of that. So I think we feel pretty good about where we're at with demand and being able to deliver that. And then clearly, we need to improve in the operating side of the house. And that's costing us, combined with fuel and congestion and a couple of these one-time costs, couple hundred basis points, and you get rid of that, and you see your way to, I think, some really nice improvement in operating ratio year over year. I realize it's a bit of a show-me story. We're from Missouri, the show-me state, and we've got some credibility here from having delivered, as you acknowledged, over the last few years, and we'll get this thing back on track.
spk06: Got it. Okay, very good. Thank you very much. Have a great weekend, everybody. Appreciate it.
spk13: You too.
spk06: Thank you.
spk13: The next question comes from Jason Seidel from Cohen. Please go ahead.
spk02: Thank you, Robert. Pat, Mike, team, good morning, everybody. Two quick questions here. One, in terms of pricing, it sounds like there were clearly some pressures on the cost side that are going to cause you to be more aggressive in the back half of the year. Should we expect higher contract renewals and how should we think about the spread of those contract renewals in relationship to the rail cost inflation that you're going to see?
spk12: Well, I think generally, you know, it's no surprise inflation is ticking up. And as contracts come up for renewal, we're going to have to take that into consideration as we reprice that business. You know, the good news is we've seen an environment where over the last few quarters price increases have roughly been the same. We've now got to step up in inflation, so we need to kind of deal with that going forward because our long-term strategy has always been to price above the cost of inflation. But, you know, an interesting dynamic, and even the Fed, you know, looking at their long-term projections around inflation, would suggest inflation is going to come back down in 2022. So they're interesting discussions with customers to have, and we're going to do our best to continue to make sure we cover cost increases in our business here.
spk02: But in terms of the spread, Mike, do you think that that's going to change that much between your price increases and your costs?
spk12: Well, we've kind of moved away over the last year from giving specific numbers there, but You know, clearly in the quarter you would have seen a negative spread, but that doesn't mean over the course of a year as you go through contract renewals that we can't keep that at a positive level.
spk02: Okay, fair enough. My follow-up question is going to be looking at sort of the margins on some of the types of business that sort of may have been deferred or may be coming online in the back half of the year because you guys are obviously looking for a strong rebound going forward. How should we think about the margins and some of those businesses that have been delayed from either chip shortages or on plants coming online in relationship to your overall business?
spk12: Jason, you've been doing this for 25 years, right? We never talk about segment profitability.
spk02: I keep trying, though. You know, you can't blame a girl.
spk12: But, no, I would tell you this. You know, it probably wouldn't be surprising to see us miss our auto plan by $50 million because of this chip issue. We're going to deliver. Guys?
spk13: Pardon me ladies and gentlemen, it appears the speaker line has dropped. Please stand by while we reconnect. Thank you for your patience. THE END Thank you. Pardon me, ladies and gentlemen. We have reconnected with the speakers. Please go ahead.
spk12: All right. Jason, I think your question was around the segment profitability, and I'm not exactly sure where you got dropped there, but I think you're right. I was just commenting, you know, as we look into the back half of the year and going into 2022, you know, segments like auto where we're probably going to be $50 million short of our original plans because of this chip issue, you're going to have the opportunity to make that up. And, you know, we're not going to go through segment by segment giving you the profitability there and whether that's accretive or or not to our overall business, but I think you should generally just assume continued strong demand that generates great incremental margins, and that's really our focus is to continue to deliver that top-line growth.
spk02: And so, Mike, that assumption is that that $50 million that was lost, that that's just being pushed out, that you're going to make up most of that in 2022?
spk12: Yeah, listen, I don't think anybody knows exactly when this chip shortage is going to be fully resolved. It's kind of an amazing issue. I read an article the other day that the total value of the chips for these cars are less than a dollar, but we can't get any, so you can't complete the production process of putting a vehicle together. You'd like to think this gets resolved fairly soon, and we're being told by the OEMs, despite some incremental shutdowns here in the third quarter, that that issue will begin to subside in the fourth quarter. And going into 2022, we're going to see really strong auto production, second, third shift. Demand is incredibly high right now. I don't know if you've ever driven by a dealer lot lately, but you'll see more bare asphalt than you will cars. It's pretty tough to order a car these days, long, long lead times. And so the demand environment is pretty strong. We think this is going to begin to really deliver some outsized growth for us late in the year and into 2022.
spk02: I appreciate the updates and knocking on wood that the supply chains get fixed there. Appreciate the time, guys.
spk05: You bet.
spk13: Our next question comes from Justin Long from Stevens. Please go ahead.
spk05: Thanks, and good morning. Just circling back to the service challenges that we're faced in the quarter, How much of this would you say is related to issues that are specific to your network? So, refined products and some of the regulation there, the planned outages, Lazaro, versus a kind of broader rail network issue with some of your interchange traffic?
spk00: Yeah, go ahead.
spk11: Yeah. Some of the descriptions you had in your question, Justin, I think answer that question, where there are a number of issues that are on our network and particularly, but the conditions that exist outside of that, I think are more global issues where we have been very successful in, for example, finding new employees and hiring new employees. We've been very successful and recalling our furloughed employees that were furloughed in 2020 and 2021, where we see a difficulty in some of the execution that creep into some of our performance like recruits and other things like that are problematic across the entire employment base in the United States. taxis and fuel trucks and other services that are happening across a lot of industries. But the performance issues that we're finding that are isolated onto our own network, we're addressing very well. Oscar and the team, for example, on the refined fuel products combined with Mike and the rest of the operating team worked tirelessly for 40 plus days to work with the officials in Mexico to resolve that. And as Mike said earlier in the call, we're breaking through that. We're doing as much as we can to support the customers in the auto business to be ready to service them as soon as those chips come or as they're moving equipment around in order to be prepared for that. So I would say there are a number of issues that are localized on our network that are a condition of the broader global issues on supply chain. And for those that are really isolated to us, we're working as a team to resolve them as efficiently as possible. And in fact, some of our recoveries are disproportionately quicker than others. If you look at even some of the improvements we're making on our intermodal velocity, intermodal supply chains in the US. We're order of magnitude, some of our trip plans are in the plus six hours in the 95% range over the last two weeks, trending very well in recovery. So I think where we have network performance challenges that are isolated to our network, we're addressing them very aggressively and based on service and how this customer sees our service capacity and capability, where it's an outside influence, we're doing our best to mitigate those things. And in some cases, as we said, we've gone a little long on our locomotives, pre-purchasing them in anticipation of problems in that supply chain for locomotive availability, as we see the growth across the whole transportation systems, and pre-positioning employees in our critical areas so that we know that the employment bases are going to be tough. and going as aggressively as we can to hire a little bit long on that so that we're ready for that growth that's coming. I would say that that's my take on how we have kind of both a macro and a micro challenge, and we're addressing both.
spk05: Okay, that's helpful. Thanks. And as my follow-up, I wanted to ask about the guidance. So despite the change to the OR outlook, the EPS outlook was only tweaked this year the outlook for 2022 wasn't changed so is the right read here that your revenue guidance has actually gotten a little bit better and that's offsetting a weaker margin outlook or is there anything else mike below the line that's influencing this you got it exactly right we're looking at revenues at the high end of our guide that we provided back in in january so that's certainly
spk12: helping to flow through the net income and EPS. And just as a reminder for everyone, we've talked about this before, we have stopped our share repurchases, which was in our original guidance, but has kind of a limited impact on 2021. And so as we kind of reset things at the end of the year for 2022, going forward, that could potentially be a changing variable depending on where we're at with the merger. But you're spot on. It's better revenue.
spk05: Helpful. Thanks for the time. You bet.
spk13: The next question comes from Tom Wadowitz from UBS. Please go ahead.
spk04: Yeah. Good morning. Pat, I know you gave us some kind of parameters about Not asking certain things. I'm not sure if this fits into it or not, but I think it's more factual. Can you explain to us what happens if STB says no to the voting trust? You know, the merger deal doesn't expire until February. So what's your obligation if they say no? And what happens if they say no and your shareholders still vote in favor of the deal?
spk14: What happens if they say no and the shareholders vote is going to, whether it occurs before or after the SDB decision, is going to be conditioned on a closing into a voting trust. So the shareholder vote will assume that there will be a closing into the voting trust. And then your other question really is hard to answer because it will really, you know, it will be a decision on our part, our board's part, on CN's part, and including and taking into consideration all of the information that would be available at that time, including any color or explanation from the STB as to what's behind their decision, including the possibility that there would be technical reasons. So remember that the original CN Voting Trust application was turned down or sent back on a technical matter because of the fact that there wasn't a merger application associated with the Voting Trust application. So I remind everyone of that just to make sure you remember that there are any number of reasons and factors that we cannot begin to anticipate at this point as to what might be included in a vote in an FTB decision. And all of these things would have to be taken into consideration by our board and certainly by CN before we move that forward.
spk04: okay um what about with respect to uh break fees and other obligations do you get out of some of the break fees if if your shareholders approve the deal i'm just trying to think about you know the obviously there's a chance you could end up going down a different path and break fees would be a consideration so i just want to make sure i fully understand your obligations You know, if you continue, the deal doesn't expire until February, but it's possible STB could say no. So could you give a thought on that, just, you know, how break fees would change in your obligations during that period?
spk14: Well, again, I'm not going to speculate on the conditions and circumstances, you know, around that. I think the break fees, the mechanics of the break fees are pretty thoroughly detailed in the merger agreement, which is part of the proxy. So I will fall back on my statement that I'll just refer to those documents.
spk04: Okay. So it sounds like it's just pretty unclear what happens and that's if the voting trust is rejected. Okay. Thanks for entertaining the questions. Okay.
spk13: The next question comes from Chris Weatherby from Citigroup. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hey, thanks so much, guys. You know, maybe just following along a little bit on that last line of questions. I don't know if the board or you, Pat, have contemplated the prospects of potentially pursuing a merger without a voting trust. Is that simply just a no-go as it stands right now? Is that something that would there could be circumstances that could lead to that being a potential option for you.
spk14: Well, Chris, I'm going to probably disappoint you with my answer, but we are totally focused on getting voting trust approval and think that we have a very strong case and application. And then beyond that, it really is not, you know, wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment on what what the SPB is going to say and what our board's response would be.
spk03: Okay, that's fair. And then when you think about the executive order, one of the things that we've been getting questions on is maybe how some of this potential scrutiny relates to the relative service that the industry at large is sort of providing to customers. And obviously you guys have had some struggles with some service here in the short term, as you've acknowledged. How much of a remedy is service improvement, you think, to the potential sort of regulatory scrutiny? Or maybe if there is incremental regulatory scrutiny coming from the executive order, I guess, you know, is it something that is a little bit more controllable from your perspective in terms of improving service in the shorter term, has the potential to put you on a stronger footing in terms of this regulatory dynamic?
spk14: I don't. I don't necessarily see them as being tied together. I know the STB, before the executive order, has been very focused on service. They hold hearings. There's an advisory group of the STB that's called RSTAC. We have an employee of KCS who's on that committee. Over time, they have gone from probably monthly meetings to quarterly meetings when service levels were improved to weekly meetings. And I think just recently they have scaled that back a little bit, I believe, from weekly to monthly. But that is an organization that is intended to be sort of a clearinghouse of information and feedback from shippers and railroads and STB. So there's a very high level of interest and scrutiny from the STB on service levels. We have all received, I know you've seen this, all of the CEOs, all of the railroads have received requests from the STB for comment, some detail about what we are doing to prepare for service recovery. Normally these things, these letters come to us just prior to the seasonal peak, but this time they came to us a little bit early. So I see the STB's interest in service level and recovery and resource commitments as certainly predating the executive order. And I know from just interactions that we've had with the STB, including comments that Chairman Olbermann has made publicly, that that will continue to be a very heightened focus. So we are taking those requests and that interest level very seriously. As you can see from the materials that we presented, we have proactively brought back resources. We've brought back crews. We've got crews in training. We think we are on a good path to make sure that we have adequate resources to complete our service recovery and handle our growth, both in the U.S. and Mexico. So I would say, you know, we're taking those inquiries and the concern that the SDB has over service very seriously and responding in ways that we think are necessary and appropriate and don't see the executive order as necessarily changing any of that.
spk03: Okay, that's helpful. Thanks for the time. Appreciate it.
spk13: The next question comes from Ken Hexter from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk16: Hey, great. Good morning. So, Pat, or maybe a question for Sammy, but Union Pacific suspended international intermodal traffic for a week last night. I guess we've seen this before in El Paso, Phoenix, maybe the West Coast ports in the early to mid-2000s. you know, after the mega mergers of the late 90s. What's your thought on the ability for Contagion on some of these supply chain shortages? Is there any impact to your network given the interaction with UP from Mexico? And then just my follow-on question, I'll throw them both at you, but maybe can you provide any details on that contract dispute?
spk12: Well, I'll take the first one. No. The last one.
spk14: Just a comment on the first part. Obviously, we can't comment on what's going on specifically at UP, but there's no doubt you'd use the word contagion. The North American rail network is a network, and particularly given our interdependence with other carriers and obviously elevated in cross-border traffic, When other railroads have difficulty on their network, we feel it. In a lot of cases, we help them. If there are detour options and other things that we can do to serve our joint customers, and that's very much the way we think of it, is particularly given the fact that we interchange so much traffic at the border with other carriers, these are joint customers. We have no nothing to gain from fully cooperating with the other carriers to make sure that our customer sees an adequate level of service. But, yes, it is an interconnected network. I think the level of coordination and communication with the other carriers is very high. So, you know, on a very, you know, daily basis, You know, we try to find ways to help each other to relieve congestion, to improve the utilization and efficiency of assets and different gateways and different routes. But, you know, particularly being among the smallest, it's hard for, when the rest of the industry is tight and struggling with service and capacity issues, we are definitely going to notice it.
spk00: And, you know, Ken, this is Sammy. A lot of the supply chain issues have been across, you know, the rail industry, the trucking industry, a lot of industries, and a lot of it is bringing people back. And, you know, like we have been talking about congestion and all the rest here, the roller coaster of volume drops and increases and You know, you go down about 30%, 40% this time last year. Then you go up about 30%, 40% after, and you have to bring people back. It's not a trivial exercise. And, you know, trying to bring back also the assets, like a lot of locomotives were stored. We had to activate them. And, you know, when you look at the numbers, the GTMs, as an example, in Q2 compared to Q2 last year, they went up by 30%. the headcount in transportation went up by 8%. So 8% against 30% volume increase. You know, the mechanical headcount went up by 3%. So, you know, bringing people back is not a trivial exercise, and it did contribute for sure, you know, to some of this congestion. But at the same time, it does provide a nice productivity thing, because if you recall, when we said, you know, in PSR phase two, which was last year, you know, were very much oriented, obviously, towards making up for the lost revenue. And we said that in phase three, which is 2021, we don't want to lose all the gains that we made. So we did conserve a lot of the gains because the headcounts are not going up at the same level as the volume increases. And the train length did not go down very much. It went down by about 2%, which means that, you know, the train starts and all the rest. We have conserved a lot of what we did last year. So the The game really is how can you absorb the volumes, how can you improve the service, which was the thrust of phase one of 2019, and we have done a lot of work in that area. We read, you know, push the envelope on the local service and the industry jobs and the spotting and pulling percentages, which went up from like 70% to 87%. So, you know, the game is how can you improve the service, absorb the volumes, and still maintain some of the efficiency gains that we have done. You know, we are talking about locomotives. Actually, 69 locomotives are going to leave our network in the next three weeks. Leave the network. Not go in storage. They are leaving the network because a lot of the locomotives are actually demo locomotives that we're working on with a vendor. So, you know, the efficiency is still there, but at the same time, you know, the service is primordial. And this is really the balancing act that we are trying to do. And this is a challenge to the supply chain, to your question.
spk16: Sammy, just to wrap up on that, is it hard to get the employees in terms of the labor market right now for the rail network, for your network?
spk00: I would say that initially it was, Ken, you know, a couple of months ago when we started the training classes, it was tough to get people back and actually approach even people that we had that we wanted to bring back. and they said they are no longer interested. Obviously, a lot of the payments they have been receiving became a hindrance. Why come back when they were getting checks at home? So, initially, it was. Now, recently, we have had much more success, and I think we have about 140 people in classes 40 of them now have marked up, meaning, you know, we can actually use them. So there is still 100 that are in the pipeline. And, you know, when you talk about productivity and cost, well, you have 100 people here that, you know, have not gone into productive service yet, but they are counted in the headcount. So, you know, we say that the headcount is 8% higher, but it includes people who are still in training, right? You know, one measure we use, I look at a lot, is compared to pre-pandemic, not compared to Q2 last year, because Q2 last year, everything was not really where it is, where it needs to be. But the crews right now are still 5% lower than pre-pandemic, and the volumes are 3% higher. You know, the car loads are 3% higher. So there is productivity, you know, happening, and, you know, we are facing the challenges, but we are finding people now, and... And, you know, we expect that in two to three months, you know, we'll be completely back on track. And, you know, what John talked about, you know, the velocity and the dwell, we have very, very clear plans now. And we expect our velocity to go back up to 16, 17 miles per hour, you know, in the next, I would say, months or two. Wonderful. Thanks. Appreciate it, Sammy.
spk16: Thanks. Thanks.
spk13: The next question comes from Allison Landry from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
spk01: Thanks. Good morning. I appreciate you squeezing me in. I'll just ask one, but I just wanted to go back to the topic of reciprocal switching, but sort of asking the question in a different way. You know, obviously it's difficult to estimate the potential impact for the industry, never mind what actions the STB might take down this path, if any. But, Pat, you know, I just, is there an argument to be made that KCS would be less impacted on a relative basis, you know, versus some of your peers. I'm just sort of thinking about the fact that you probably have less in the way of captive traffic, more interchanges, et cetera. So, do you think that this is a fair way to think about it?
spk14: A fair way to think that KCS would be less impacted? Yeah. Right. It just really depends on what the rules are. Yeah. without knowing kind of specifically how, because there are many different proposals, many different options for how reciprocal switching would be actually implemented. It's just impossible to know how it would impact us.
spk12: Allison, this is Mike. Obviously, half of our business is in Mexico, which wouldn't be impacted. So I think it's safe for you to conclude that. But what the impact is in the U.S. relative, to the others would be difficult to answer until we really understood what the specific proposal is.
spk01: Okay. Understood. I'll just leave it at one. Thank you. Okay.
spk14: Thanks, Austin.
spk13: The next question comes from Brian Austin Beck from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
spk10: Hey, good morning. Thanks for getting me on the call here at the end. I appreciate it. Two quick ones. One on the network performance chart. If you could just give us an update on the The four-hour border window change going from six to four, how did that work? Was there any benefit improvement when you made that switch? And what's the visibility to going to maybe two or no more fluid border crossings? And then again, back on the executive order, if you can just comment briefly on, I think Sammy just mentioned it on spotting and pulling. If we do get more data on first mile, last mile, how do you think we should interpret that? It's going to be sort of hard to to put into context, because every network is different. Are customers really asking for this level of disclosure? So maybe since I think we're gonna hear more about that potentially in the future, Pat or someone can give us some thoughts on first and final mile, that would be helpful. Thanks a lot.
spk00: As far as the first mile, last mile, I don't see any issue in giving numbers. I just gave some numbers. The numbers went from the 74% to 87%. You know, John and the team have been unbelievably focused. You know, that exercise in Monterey that John talked about was very intense, and we have a lot of customers around the Monterey area. And, you know, you can have the trip as fast as you can from origin to destination, but if you don't get it to the industry when they need it, then it doesn't make any difference. So now, you know, we provide about 550 cars on a regular basis, reliable basis, every single day in the Monterey area. You know, we spot 550 cars. And the other thing is supplying, you know, the empties also, which is another thing that is important. You know, when a customer orders 50 empties, that you give them 50 empties and you give them the right, you know, type of car. So, So that aspect has really, really improved. And it's not mentioned in any of the slides here. So to your point, we should make that more public. As far as the windows, the four-hour windows, that has been a great success. And we worked actually hand-in-hand with Union Pacific on that because there are trains that go to UP from the bridge. And now a train, instead of waiting six hours if you miss the window – you have to wait six hours to the next one. Now you wait only four hours if you miss. Now, obviously we don't want to miss at all, you know, if we, if we can help it, but, uh, but there has been, there has been a nice improvement, but, but that improvement is all chained with the rest because, you know, it's a network. So, uh, you know, John and the team did a lot of work in the Laredo yard, which has to receive the trains. Um, you know, to plan ahead when the train arrives so everything is ready. But the fact that now you send four hours worth of trains to Laredo, you know, coming from Mexico northbound, is much better than sending to Laredo in one shot six hours worth of trains. You know, you don't flood the yard. So these are benefits and they are all coordinated with the rest of the yards on the other side of the border, on the south side, you know, Nuevo Laredo, Sanchez, and Monterrey, and it all goes hand in hand, and there is a wide boarding exercise that we didn't even talk about here that just took place, you know, John was the new structure that he talked about, the new organizational structure, and there is a lot of good things that are going to happen, you know, a lot of work was being done in yards that are not the best yards, like Nuevo Laredo is a very small yard, it was doing work for Sanchez, which is a very big yard. But Sanchez was affected by the refined products, okay, which grew by 100%, you know, from Q2 last year to Q2 this year. So all these things are connected, but, you know, to answer your main question, you know, the bridge, now the windows went from six hours to four hours, and then the intention eventually is to go down to zero-hour windows and to build a second bridge, in which case There are no windows at all, and you go directional. Northbound goes and southbound goes at the same time without having any sequencing, you know, between trains. And that will do magic, you know, to the velocity of the KCS network because our cross-border is what's growing the most. Our cross-border grew by 50% from Q2 last year to Q2 this year. And I think refined product across that is 100% increase. Right, Mike? Yes, over that, yeah.
spk13: All right, thank you, Sammy. The next question comes from Scott Group from Wolf Research. Please go ahead.
spk07: Hey, thanks. Morning, guys. So quickly, can I just clarify, if for whatever reason the voting trust is blocked before August 19th, does the shareholder vote still happen? And then the executive order focused a bunch on passenger service and Amtrak. Can you just talk about how much Passenger service exposure you guys have and what you guys are planning there first answer First question.
spk14: Yes shareholder vote will take place on August 19th If there is a decision prior to and regardless of the decision Yes We KCS does not actually host any Amtrak. We have, I think, one location around St. Louis. Technically, Amtrak runs over our tracks, but we don't control it. We don't dispatch it. So we really have no relationship with Amtrak. There has been talk, obviously, from time to time with Amtrak and with other passenger and commuter metro type organizations to bring passenger service onto our network. But that's really the extent of our relationship with Amtrak. So we don't have a history with Amtrak. And if you are familiar with the Amtrak response, I think they talk about the Baton Rouge to New Orleans route that has been identified as a divestiture candidate, but there is no passenger service on that route today.
spk12: And by the way, Scott, there hasn't been passenger service on that in over 50 years. Okay.
spk07: So Amtrak shouldn't be a big issue here. Just a real quick follow-up. If for whatever reason we don't get a voting trust decision by August 19th, Does the shareholder vote get delayed until there's a decision?
spk14: No. Again, as I mentioned earlier, the intention is that the shareholder vote would be subject to shareholder approval, would be subject to STB approval for a voting trust. So if there's no decision, it would be our intention to proceed with the shareholder vote.
spk07: Okay. Thank you, guys. Appreciate the time. Thanks, Seth.
spk13: The next question comes from David Zezula from Barclays. Please go ahead.
spk08: Thanks for taking my question. Maybe for Mike, as you've had the opportunity to review some additional data with respect to potential additional traffic that you can convert that's along CN line, KSU line, has that changed your opinion on the potential benefits of converted traffic due to the merger?
spk12: Is that a question specific to the synergies?
spk08: I guess I'm thinking more broadly on how much, you know, long-term you think is convertible just as you... Yeah.
spk12: Yeah. Well, I think CN's done a really good job of evaluating the various market opportunities that... present themselves to a combined company here and You know, we've done a terrific job growing our business over the years I often use the cross-border intermodal business at Laredo Depending on how you measure that we think we have somewhere around five to six percent share which that's interesting, but that's far short of the possibilities and and the challenge is that we've always had is we don't go to any interesting places in single line service. Not to say Kansas City isn't an interesting place. It is, but it's not a market like Chicago or Detroit or Toronto, which is the attraction of combining with CN, and we think we can dramatically increase the share of that cross-border business that is being moved by truck and move that business off of the highway systems, more environmentally friendly. We can establish premium intermodal service that we think will compete very effectively with other modes of opportunities that are out there for shippers and provide a new service that bottom line doesn't exist in the market today. So I think that's a great example. And beyond that, we've looked at it segment by segment and think there are tremendous opportunities for the two companies to provide new single line service that's pro-competitive and offer shippers more options.
spk08: Thanks. And just noting your capital plan, at least the level has not changed. I guess, have you changed any composition of the capital plan in response to kind of preparing for the potential merger and maybe some additional growth or terminal facilities that you might want to put in place, or is that kind of planning not kind of in pen yet?
spk12: Not really. I'd say we're executing against our plan. I mean, you always have some pluses and minuses, and John was recently out on the railroad with his team and, you know, a few projects here and there. So you add a few, you take a few away, but generally we're still on plan. We don't see any reason why we would scale that back. You know, we've got to continue to operate as an independent company, obviously both before voting trust closing and after voting trust closing. And CN's offered us that opportunity in the merger agreement to spend more than what we've guided externally in the event that there are additional growth opportunities or projects that John's team needs to execute on. So yeah, our plans have really not changed and we've got lots of flexibility going forward under the merger agreement.
spk08: Thanks a lot.
spk12: You bet.
spk13: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Oddensmeyer for any closing remarks.
spk14: Okay, thank you all. Thank you for your questions. Obviously a challenging environment. for us as well as for supply chains across North America and beyond. Hopefully one of the things that you heard today is that we are very focused on improving our service and operational performance. We feel very confident about the growth opportunities that are in front of us and working very hard to realize those opportunities. Thanks again for your attention and I look forward to seeing you all again soon.
spk13: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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