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spk00: Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the fourth quarter 2021 LCI Industries earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. And if you require any further assistance, please press star 0. Thank you. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr. Brian Hall. Please go ahead.
spk08: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the LCI Industries fourth quarter 2021 conference call. I am joined on the call today by Jason Lippert, president, CEO, and a director. We will discuss the results of the quarter in just a moment. But first, I would like to inform you that certain statements made in today's conference call regarding LCI Industries and its operations may be considered forward-looking statements under the securities laws and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. As a result, the company cautions you that there are a number of factors, many of which are beyond the company's control, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements. These factors are discussed in our earnings release and in our Form 10-K and other filings with the SEC. The company disclaims any obligation or undertaking to update forward-looking statements to reflect circumstances or events that occur after the date the forward-looking statements are made, except as required by law. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Jason Lippert. Jason?
spk05: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to LCI's fourth quarter and full year 2021 earnings call. 2021 was a year of incredible progress and highlights for LCI as the larger outdoor recreation industry continued to grow at a very fast pace. Highlighted by a record 600,000 RV shift during 2021, we broke records of our own, delivering all-time high revenues along with record content and profitability, all while facing some incredible headwinds on labor, inflation, and supply chain fronts. I'm continually impressed and proud of our team's ability to achieve such amazing results in this challenging operating environment. We believe that our cultural strength has been the cornerstone of this continued success, supported by an experienced leadership team that's kept Lippert on track in executing on our culture, values, and strategic priorities. We ended 2021 with a $4.5 billion in revenues, up 60% year over year, largely driven by strong demand across all our markets. Our growth is also supported by six acquisitions, adding approximately $270 million in net sales. These acquisitions have helped us further expand our wide portfolio of innovative products while providing entry into new and meaningful markets, further establishing LCI as a global leader in the recreation space. Our VOEM sales increased 73% during the year compared to 2020, reaching nearly $2.6 billion this year. primarily driven by heightened demand for RVs throughout the year. Families are recognizing that the outdoor lifestyle is a far more attractive alternative to the hassle of airline travel and hotel lodging, as well as more affordable, considering the levels of recent inflation. With the freedom and convenience that come with RVs, it's no wonder families across the globe are turning to RVs as a go-to choice for a positive vacation experience. The increasing popularity of peer-to-peer rentals has also contributed to the accessibility of RVing, opening the door to many new customers looking to try the experience before they buy. Our growth in RV OEM segment was also supported by incredible operational execution on the part of our teams and minimizing many of the supply chain challenges that have impacted the industry. As we've explored new supply channels and have worked to source materials in the U.S. and elsewhere when possible to avoid issues associated with international freight, we see fewer component issues compared to that of our peers, which has enabled our continued outperformance. With a focus on scalable growth, we are targeting 15 automation projects costing up to $40 million planned for 2022 and early 2023. We expect these operational improvement projects to support our long-term margin expansion and help offset the impact of inflationary pressures while improving quality and helping us to mitigate labor constraints to maintain stable production and meet the new heightened consumer demand. We delivered substantial content increases for the year in both towable units and motorhomes, driven by strong organic growth. Content for towable RV for the full year 2021 increased 24% from the prior year to $4,198, while content for motorhome RV for the full year 2021 increased 15% from the prior year to $2,856, supported by several market share gains. As we head further into 2022, we expect the current strong pace of wholesale shipments to continue in the coming months as we execute during a dealer restocking period. That said, visibility toward the full year demand is limited due to uncertainties about the longer term impact of inflation on consumer spending. We'll have a better view of how demand is shaping up once the spring retail season ramps up. Our revenues in the aftermarket segment grew year over year, up 32% compared to 2020, supported by organic and inorganic growth drivers. The integration of Purion is progressing smoothly, and we expect this business to contribute substantially to our aftermarket sales going forward as we leverage its robust catalog of innovative appliances and electronics to tap into a $1.5 billion addressable market in North America alone. As I've said throughout the past year, with a record number of RVs on the road and over a million coming into the repair and replacement cycle every two years, we expect a long runway for growth for our aftermarket business as we meet significant demand for repair, replacement, and upgrade components. As our aftermarket business has grown, we've focused our attention and resources on enhancing the retail customer experience. The Lipper Scouts program, which has more than quadrupled in membership in the past year, serves to provide valuable insights on products and services, how customers use them, and most importantly, how we can drive improvements. Other experiments like product giveaways and the campground project have helped us meet, survey, and collect candid feedback from thousands of real campers and RVers nationwide. All this work culminated in the resounding success of our first Lippert Getaway RV Rally in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, attended by over 200 families, where we were able to meet face-to-face with customers and talk about RVing. The engagement we drove through this event far exceeded expectations, and we are already hearing buzz amongst RVers for our 2022 getaway. The more we can creatively and effectively engage consumers, the better we can help them stay in the lifestyle over the long term and keep them connected to our team, our customers, and our product. We believe that establishing Lippert as a leading name in customer service will be yet another competitive differentiator to drive growth and strengthen our overall business for many years to come. As popularity for the outdoor lifestyle grows, our ability to innovate has proven to be critical in meeting consumer demand. Our tire pressure management systems, our continued development of one control and independent suspension systems, and the newly introduced safety suite of products have solidified our reputation as a company operating on the cutting edge of RV technology. Now that Furion has been brought into the fold, we have even more innovative projects slated for launch that we're excited to announce later in the year. We've also recently announced the launch of many new suspension products, including ABS brakes for axle systems and independent suspension system for the growing Gen Z and overland consumers. The global shift toward electric vehicles represents a monumental and innovative opportunity for Lipper. And we are already preparing for what the future of RVs might look like. Only a few weeks ago in January, we unveiled our prototype EV towable RV chassis that we have been developing at our advanced R&D center in northern Indiana. This concept vehicle consists of an array of lithium batteries specially housed in our chassis. The battery system is intended to power all the RV's electrical system for multiple days of boondocking. We also displayed a new aluminum chassis design along with regenerative braking and drive axles paired with remote control capabilities. While we plan to continue refining our concept prototype, we expect to begin rolling out parts of this technology in 2023. We believe this project will be a huge stride in reducing the environmental impact of RVs on the environment. We are also very excited for the continued progress of our suite of Class B products. With retail sales for Class B van RVs having doubled in the last several years, we've been working hard to develop a full line of products for these vehicles, including our pop tops. This option, which allows OEMs to install a bed on the roof of a B van, is being increasingly adopted by consumers. Turning to the adjacent markets, full year 2021 revenues rose 58%, again driven by heightened retail demand for marine and other related markets. Additionally, our market shares in housing and cargo trailers both increased dramatically in 2021. Content per unit in marine has increased over two times what we delivered in 2019. Whereas RV inventories are starting to build back, marine inventories remain very low, and accordingly, we anticipate a longer runway for growth in this business over the next two years. Our international businesses grew 58% for the year compared to 2020, supported by our introduction of innovative products into the European markets. Demand across Europe remains high, supported by the same secular drivers supporting heightened demand domestically. 2021 retail caravan registrations in Europe increased 8%, with the largest market, Germany, up over 4%. However, because Europe is largely motorhomes, the chip shortages are impacting industry production a little more than what we've seen in the U.S. That said, our European RV and marine divisions are continuing to provide solid innovations for use with customers domestically. We continue to see our Europe products being adopted by U.S. OEMs, further supporting our content gains. Looking ahead, we remain optimistic about our company's ability to drive growth in our international markets. while also realizing synergies and products to bring to our North American customers. Moving on to capital allocation, we are maintaining our focus on integrating our recent acquisitions and paying down debt. At the same time, we are continuing to invest more heavily in innovation and optimizing our manufacturing footprint to ensure we have capacity to meet heightened consumer demand while identifying cost efficiencies where possible. In 2021, we allocated over $40 million to growth and automation CapEx. and we anticipate allocating even more to these important projects in 2022. I'll now move on to some cultural highlights for the year. Here at Lippert, we work hard to maintain a culture that values all team members and enables each team member to see how his or her individual contributions help us meet our greater goals. Our culture focuses not only on how we can impact our team members, but also how we impact the world around us, starting with our communities that we work and live in. We started our cultural journey 10 years ago and we know it's having real impact. Not only are we hearing incredibly positive feedback from our team members, but our retention is also significantly higher than in past years, even in the face of some of the headwinds impacting the labor markets today. In alignment with our core values, we recently published our inaugural Corporate Sustainability Report, covering our progress across a wide range of ESG-related topics. This report includes initiatives such as our mission to replace conventional energy with solar power at seven facilities, our identification of a board committee focused on ESG, and our focus on reducing team member attrition rates by way of elevating a healthy and safe company culture. We believe our growth and recent innovations, along with our increasing focus on ESG, will mean our Lipper team members, their families, and our customers will be able to better enjoy the communities where we live, work, play long into the future. I'd also like to mention the amazing strides our team's made in keeping up with our commitment to serving and supporting local communities. Over 2021, LIPRC team members performed over 100,000 hours of community service through serving at various charitable organizations around the country. Over the last five years, our team members have collectively served 550,000 hours of community service. We could not be prouder of this accomplishment and our team's efforts to give back to those in need and look forward to our culture initiatives having even more impact in 2022. In closing, I'd like to thank all of our team members not only for their tremendous work and commitment to delivering quality products to our customers, but also for staying aligned to our culture that has made Lippert so successful. We could not have achieved such amazing results without this incredible dedication and record amounts of team members staying with the business over the longer term, coupled with the strength and guidance of our leadership teams. We look forward to continuing this tremendous progress in 2022 as we keep creating value for the team members, customers, and shareholders. I will now turn to Brian Hall, our CFO, to discuss in more detail our fourth quarter and full year financial results. Thank you, Jason.
spk08: Our consolidated net sales for the fourth quarter increased 55% to $1.2 billion compared to the prior year, driven by continued strength in market performance coupled with a strong execution against strategic initiatives. Acquisitions contributed $97 million or 12% growth to our quarterly results, with organic growth contributing the balance or 43% of the improvement. As Jason mentioned, January sales were up 71% from January 2021 to $526 million, a strong indication of the expected growth rate for Q1. Q4 2021 sales to RV OEMs increased 67% compared to the prior year due to the heightened wholesale and retail demand. Current North American RV industry production rates also remain high, and we closed the year with a record 600,240 wholesale unit shipments. We drove further content expansion for towables and motorhomes during the quarter. Content per towable RV increased 24% to $4,198, and content per motorized unit increased 15% to $2,856 compared to the prior year. The content growth can be attributed to organic growth in addition to the impact of price increases enacted during the quarter. Acquired revenues contributed 5% and 6% of the year-over-year growth in towable and motorhome content per unit, respectively. We continue to see robust performance in the marine market, driven by the same demand driving growth for the RV OEM signals. North American marine sales increased 113% in the quarter as production continues to ramp up to meet the heightened demand. Acquisitions contributed $19 million in revenues, or 38% of this growth for the quarter. Sales to adjacent industries grew 52%. Aftermarket segment sales increased 25% and international sales increased 28% as the recreation space continues to attract new customers. Gross margins were 24.1% compared to 25.2% in the prior year quarter, pressured by near-term headwinds, including elevated freight, material, and labor costs. On a sequential basis, gross margins improved by approximately 350 basis points, supported by the price increases we enacted in the second half of 2021 and solid operating leverage. We anticipate some margin contraction mid-year as supply chain pressures begin to ease and we begin to contractually ease pricing with our customers with our traditional quarterly lag. We are expecting margins to improve approximately 150 to 200 basis points from Q4 2021 to Q1 2022, considering materials and pricing alone. SD&A costs as a percentage of sales decreased from the fourth quarter of 2020, as well as sequentially due to fixed costs spread over higher sales base, offsetting increases in freight and transportation costs. Operating margins increased roughly 375 basis points compared to the prior year, driven by the successful implementation of our efforts to continuously improve our manufacturing process by increasing automation. Gap net income in Q4 2021 was $82.3 million or $3.22 per diluted share compared to $48.7 million or $1.92 per diluted share in Q4 2020, increasing due to increased demand accompanied by effective cost management. Adjusted EBITDA increased 66% to $146.3 million for the fourth quarter compared to the prior year. Moving on to full year 2021 results, sales to RV OEMs increased 68%, driven by heightened retail demand throughout the year. We drove further content expansion for towables and motorhomes during the quarter, as I previously mentioned. Sales to adjacent markets increased 58% to $1.1 billion in 2021, and our aftermarket segment increased its total sales by 32% to $829.1 million. while international sales increased 58% to $374.4 million compared to the prior year. Acquired revenues were approximately $270 million for the full year 2021. Non-cash depreciation and amortization was $112.3 million for the 12 months ended December 31, 2021, while non-cash stock-based compensation expense was $27.2 million for the same period. We anticipate depreciation and amortization in the range of $140 to $150 million during the full year 2022, primarily due to increases in capital investment to enhance production capacity and enable further manufacturing efficiencies. For the 12 months ended December 31, 2021, $194 million was used for business acquisitions, $99 million for capital expenditures, and $87 million was returned to our shareholders in the form of dividends. Operating cash flows were negatively impacted by the intentional increase in inventory to support heightened demand and minimize supply disruption, in addition to rising prices of steel and aluminum-based products. At the end of the fourth quarter, we had an outstanding net debt position of $1.2 billion, or 1.8 times pro forma EBITDA, adjusted to include the LTM EBITDA of acquired businesses. With the constantly evolving operating environment, we are focused on maintaining a strong balance sheet and continue to target a long-term leverage of one and a half times net debt to EBITDA. In the near term, we are working to integrate recently completed acquisitions, which we expect to positively impact our operating cash flows in the coming quarters. For the full year 2022, capital expenditures are anticipated in the range of $130 to $150 million. Looking ahead, we are confident in our ability to continue this momentum throughout 2022 and remain dedicated to further executing our growth strategy to drive long-term value creation for shareholders. That is the end of our prepared remarks. Operator, we're ready to take questions. Thank you.
spk00: Thank you. At this time, I would like to remind everyone that in order to ask a question, you may press star and the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Once again, you may press star 1 to ask a question. Your first question is from the line of Fred Reitman from World Research. Your line is open.
spk09: Hey, guys. Good morning. I was hoping you could just give a little bit more detail on that January number. It looks like it picked up on a two-year basis, and just hoping you could sort of put that into context with the inventory situation across the channel. I mean, if we look at slide four, it looks like we've built a fair amount of inventory already, but if you could just put those sort of two data points together, that would be great.
spk08: Yeah, so hey, Fred. You know, you've got two things that I would say really drive the increase. The OEMs did pick up production rates starting the first week of January. So from what we were running in the fourth quarter, there was a little bit of a lull with a couple weeks around the holidays, but then their volumes and outputs have picked up during the month. So I think that while inventories do, as you would know, start to seasonally improve, during this time of year as wholesale would normally outpace retail. I think at this point it's a little too early to expect the OEMs to adjust their production rates as they're all seeing quite a bit of success with the early dealer shows. down south. So I think that I wouldn't expect those rates to change much in the near term. And then the second part would then be our price increases, as we've been discussing. As you know, they're on a two-quarter lag. So we had some in the fourth quarter and then additionally had more index adjustments that went into place during January, effective January 1, that at this point puts us pretty well on par with where a lot of the current input costs are. So a lot of that lag, we've made some catch-up on that here these last two quarters.
spk05: And I just add that, you know, all the suppliers had a good solid two weeks to set the table for January, and you know, make preparations and clean up some of the supply chain messes that were out there. So when the OEM set the ground running the first week of January, you know, most of the suppliers were all caught up and had the OEM stock full of supply. So the OEMs were able to run pretty clean in January.
spk09: That makes sense. And then, Brian, I think you made a comment that the January number is a good run rate or at least a good indication for the quarter. But if we just go back and look at what you guys sort of reported for January, I sort of reported for January year-to-date last year, and then where 1Q came in, it would seem to imply that sales accelerated in February and March, and so I'm wondering if you're sort of planning for that again here this year, or if there's something different? if we're just looking back?
spk05: We certainly have visibility on February orders and some of March orders. If you just look at the run rates that the OEMs are moving at right now, it's kind of on pace with what Our VIA has put out there in terms of an annual outlook of 610 or 15,000 units. That's kind of where they're running right now. March, they're looking at more of a 640, 650 run rate. So it does look like it's going to pick up. The question is, will supply chain and some of the other headwinds allow us to hit those numbers?
spk08: And, Fred, one other thing I'd add. I believe last year in January the shutdowns by the OEMs straddled year end, so you had some closures in December and January. And this year most of the OEMs were all shut down during December and then hit the ground running at full pace in January. So that's a little bit of a dip, I think, in the prior year that we saw in January. Perfect. Thanks, guys.
spk00: Your next question is from Mike Swartz of ThruWisp. Your line is open.
spk02: Hey, guys. Good morning. Just wanted to touch on the towable content numbers in the quarter. There was a big jump sequentially and obviously year over year, but maybe give us a little context to how much of that increase is being driven by pricing relative to maybe core market share gains.
spk08: Yeah, so I'd probably break it down into three buckets. First, our organic gains, new business, new market share. We've talked about that as we've layered in new business over the last 12 months. That certainly has been running in a range pretty consistent with our historical trends, so somewhere around 5% or so. You know, it's usually 3% to 5%. I think we've been a little more on the high side of that. Acquisitions, there are some acquired revenues in there, and I believe it's right around 5% on the towable side of things. And then the remainder, you would see a lot of that being driven by price adjustments as that's caught up to keep pace with our input costs today. Okay.
spk02: Okay, that's helpful. And then I think, Jason, you'd mentioned there's more automation projects on tap for this year and I guess early next year, I think you said in upwards of $40 million in investment. Just remind us of what the return on that spend typically looks like and how quickly we'll see some benefits from those investments.
spk05: Yeah, so, you know, we're, you know, five or so years into our automation journey, and, you know, we started with a couple of really small projects and moved to some bigger projects, and we kind of settled in, you know, one to $4 million projects kind of being our sweet spot where we can, you know, we can remove, you know, 10 to... 50 people out of maybe a work cell or series of work cells. And that payback usually generally is from a year to three years on average. So they're pretty good paybacks, but it allows us to take the labor out of those work areas and redistribute them to other work areas that we need labor in because, you know, labor is certainly a problem. So it's really been a huge advantage for us as we continue to do more automation projects. And we've gotten, you know, we've gotten a lot better every year picking the right projects and getting better returns, so.
spk02: Okay, great. Thank you.
spk05: Yeah.
spk00: Your next question is from Craig Kennison of Bayard. Your line is open.
spk04: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Jason, I just wanted to call out all the cultural progress that you've made. I do remember back in the day you had a lot higher turnover than you do today, and, you know, it doesn't get called out on these quarterly calls much. Thank you. Thank you. That's awesome. Appreciate you acknowledging that. So, Brian, on the margin front, could you just reiterate what you said about your outlook for Q1 and how you think the cadence will flow through the balance of the year?
spk08: Yeah, certainly. First, you'd have to acknowledge how volatile the markets are. We've seen steel, aluminum freight, quite a bit of volatility there moving up and down. So it's hard to predict too far out. Although, for the most part, you can look at what steel is doing currently and use that as an estimate for two quarters out because those index adjustments are contractual and automatic. So As it relates to the current quarter, as I mentioned earlier, just getting our sales prices in line with our current input costs, which has been a journey over the last 12 to 18 months. is expected to give us another 150 to 200 basis point improvement in margin going from fourth quarter to first quarter. And then on top of that, I would look at our normal incremental margin improvement, call it 20 to 25% on the added volume as our fixed costs are essentially pretty consistent moving from Q4 to Q1. So, again, I would look incrementally, normal range of 20% to 25%. And then on top of that, we finally get our pricing where it needs to be. And so you'd get another 150 to 200 basis point margin improvement from that. So a bulk of which, you know, obviously that piece is 100% in cost of goods sold and impacting gross margins. And then the incremental margin would be spread over 50%. both our manufacturing overheads as well as SG&A. So you get pickups in both sections of the P&L there.
spk05: And just to tie that back to your... your intro there on culture. I mean, without a solid culture and the things that we're doing there, we wouldn't be able to attain those types of incremental margins and we wouldn't be able to grow, you know, 1.7 billion in a year. We wouldn't be able to, you know, onboard 3,500 people if we didn't have a strong culture. So really, you know, the culture is foundational to, you know, how we succeed in all these areas. So I appreciate you acknowledging that.
spk04: Yeah, thank you. And then following up on the capital allocation, you've got a lot of opportunity, obviously, internally, which you mentioned in response to Mike's question. But what does the deal pipeline look like? What is your appetite for your own stock at its current multiple? How do you weigh all of those opportunities, which seem to be plentiful today?
spk08: Yeah, I mean, certainly there's, you know, we're always looking to allocate capital, the highest returns, and take advantage of opportunities as we see fit. You know, the M&A pipeline, I would say, is consistent as it has been. You know, nothing significantly changing there. So as we evaluate, you know, where to deploy our dollars, certainly today we have, you know, as we've been talking for the past, you know, maybe two quarters, you We've strategically built up our inventories to assist in our ability to mitigate any supply chain disruptions and keep pace with the record volumes that we're running at today. So we've certainly been very mindful of that and deployed a lot of capital there. And then otherwise, we've really kind of prioritized a lot of these automation projects. as Jason mentioned, with the labor benefits that that provides us so that we can deploy people where we need them to continue to keep pace with these kind of record volumes. So I think I would say that's, at least from my perspective, how we're evaluating it.
spk05: And we've been pretty consistent with, you know, over the years, just, you know, between dividends and just organic CapEx and, you know, CapEx back into the business and acquisitions and You know, it feels like maybe over the last few years, you know, acquisitions have taken quite a bit of CapEx and, you know, the CapEx back into the business and, you know, automation and things like that have been a close second. But it feels like there's a, you know, an ability to put more CapEx into the business and focus on some of the organic growth we've attained over the last year. You know, we've not grown significantly. you know 800 million in a year let alone you know a billion seven and you know this year will certainly be solid so you know i can see us putting a lot of money back into the business and not that acquisitions will take a back seat but maybe take a second seat great thank you yep your next question is from daniel moore of cjs cjs securities your line is open
spk06: Thank you, and thanks for all the color, Jason and Brian. Maybe talk a little bit, focus on the aftermarket side of the business, and obviously you mentioned a million RVs coming in every two years, just what your outlook for growth in 2022 looks like as well as the M&A pipeline.
spk05: Yeah, I think as the last few years we've been discussing aftermarket heavy as it's growing toward a billion dollars of our total business, I don't think people realize how much opportunity there really is in the aftermarket with repair and replacement and upgrade parts with all these RVs coming in. I mean, it's not only half a million coming in every year. I mean, those RVs are staying and needing more work. As you know and have talked around the business, there's not as much effort and emphasis on service and service parts as fast as the industry is growing. So we're filling a lot of that need and happy to do it. And on top of that, the RVs of today have probably doubled the content that they had 10 years ago because there's just more bells and whistles and features that, frankly, we've added and the customers want and have asked for. So we've just got tremendous opportunity. I don't think that people understand how much opportunity is really there, but we're going to fill a lot of that need. And we're preparing our infrastructure between customer experience and our Our care center that's got, you know, well over 120 people on the call center side taking 75,000 communications a month and growing. I mean, all those communications are sales and repair and replacement and upgrades, so.
spk06: And it seems like in your prepared remarks you're moving toward, you know, more of a branded strategy on that side of the business. Obviously OEMs, you know, know LCI and your brands extremely well. But, you know, maybe just elaborate on that and, you know, how much of it you see could ultimately be a pull by the customer versus a push from you through, you know, Camping World and all the other dealers. Thanks.
spk05: Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, in this day and age, I don't think there's enough people that can handle the customers to help make them happier and solve a lot of the problems, especially as, you know, as I said earlier, the industry units coming into service are far greater than what we have service and parts personnel for. So everybody that gets into the mix there to help the customer out I think helps keep the customers in the lifestyle and in our industry ultimately longer. So I think that's helpful that we're spending as much time and resources as we are. Time and energy we've spent toward the retail customer and consumer with our customer experience department initiatives and all the people that we've onboarded there to go out and shake hands and get face-to-face with the consumers that are using RVs and ultimately our products. We just want to know what they like and what they don't like and how we can improve and what other ideas they have for products that don't exist today. We get a lot of amazing feedback from all this community. of info that we get back directly from the consumer. It's not some kind of surveyor. We're out there talking to real people that have real problems and issues. And I think that they're really happy to know that there's, you know, organizations and industry businesses like us you know tending to those questions and and helping get them some answers and make them feel heard so I think that's really good but but I think I don't the short answer your questions I don't think enough people can get in the game to help the consumer out so that we keep people in this lifestyle especially as many new buyers are coming to the to the lifestyle
spk06: Last one for me, and I'll jump out, but you highlighted the Class B growth and your content. That's something that doesn't get a lot of color. What does your content look like on Class Bs today? Is it TAM, and what do you think it could be?
spk05: Yeah, so right now there's, you know, $65 million in total potential parts for our product lines, which is about $5,200 per Class B. And we've got about $830 of that today. But we're currently launching several new products in the way of awnings, steps, and, you know, some furniture and pop tops. We've noted that a few times, the bed that's on top of the – you know, that they cut a hole in the roof of the van and put a pop top that has a sleeping surface in it, you know, which is like a $3,000 item. So we can boost our content pretty quick in that category as we launch the rest of these products. But we're on top of it for sure.
spk06: All right. Very helpful. Thanks again. Thank you.
spk00: Your next question is from Scott Stember of CL King. Your line is open.
spk03: Good morning, guys. Outside of marine, can you talk about some of the trends that you're seeing in the adjacent segment, whether it's, I guess, high-speed rail, European RV? Maybe just give us an indication of how that's going.
spk05: Yeah, sure. I know you said outside of Marine, but Marines, you know, Marines doing really, really well right now. And they have a much longer runway, I think, than RV in terms of, you know, the amount of inventory that's out there. It's very, very low. And it just feels like, you know, we've got another 18 months or so of filling that pipeline so the dealers have enough inventory. And our content's doubled, like Brian said earlier, from 2019 to, So, but outside of marine, you know, we feel Europe's going to be a little sluggish with a chip shortage for motorhomes. You know, 60% of their total vehicles sold over there are motorhomes, and if they can't get the motorhome chassis from Fiat and all the other ones over there, it's really hard for them to build the units. So some of that production capacity has switched to towable units, and we supply some towable content over there. So I think it'll just be a little sluggish. We'll see if they can figure out how to right the supply chain issues they've got with chips over there. And rail is such a small part of our business. I mean, really, where we're picking up rail business is in the U.S., where some of the new rail manufacturers are putting new facilities, and we've got some of those contracts over the next several years. We'll be talking more about that in the next couple of years as we onboard some of those contracts. The specialty vehicle and bus market is pretty flat right now, but we're gaining content and share there, so that's helpful. All in all, it's a smaller piece of the total business.
spk03: Just lastly on Furion, now that it's back into the fold, this time around you've got the aftermarket angle, which wasn't there before. Can you talk about how that will maybe, just from a sales perspective going forward, how that should drive the business and maybe the margin profile for the Furion aftermarket versus your traditional aftermarket?
spk05: Yeah. Their aftermarket was humming when we bought them. It was nearly 40% of their total business, but they weren't nearly in the amount of distributors and dealerships that we're in. We're in process now. All the aftermarket wholesale distribution shows are happening January to March and April. We're slowly moving more of their products into our traditional channels, and that'll That'll happen over the course of this year. And part of it for us is having to ramp the supply chain up. So we are going to onboard a lot of new OEM business as well. But it's taken time to get the supply chain ramped up to be able to do that. We look forward to talking more about the market share gains with Furion this year, both on the OEM and aftermarket side. But all in all, the integration has gone fine so far, and they've got some great products. And as we noted earlier, we're going to launch some really innovative products later this year that are Furion-branded.
spk08: Got it. That's all I have. Thank you. Hey, Scott. Sorry, go ahead. Just to wrap that up a little bit, from an aftermarket margin perspective, I would say it would be pretty comparable to what the rest of our aftermarket business does. OEM, as you know, when we were the distributor, margins were on, say, the lighter side. But, you know, with us and our footprint and essentially taking the middle line, man out of that, we're able to show quite a bit more margin opportunity there. So probably more in line with the rest of our OEM business, maybe on the light side to start, but, you know, we would hope that we would be able to show some additional margin improvement as we integrate them. Got it.
spk03: Thanks again.
spk00: Your next question is from Catherine Thompson of Thompson Research Group. Your line is open.
spk01: Hi, thank you for taking my questions today. One just is more of a clarification on the inflation side and looking at your content per unit having, you know, a nice increase, as you've always been steadily moving up with that metric. But how much of this in the quarter or maybe you can look at the past trillion 12 months has been related to inflation versus your ongoing initiatives to increase content per unit? Thanks.
spk08: Hi, Catherine. Yeah, I mean, like I was talking a little bit earlier, you know, from a normal content growth, it's pretty consistent with what we've shown in the past, you know, 3% to 5% type growth. Acquisitions on the tollable side impacted it by another 5 percentage points. Motorhomes was a little bit higher, I think around 6%. And so the remainder of that would be price impact. And, you know, I think another way to look at it, as everybody's been looking at, you know, inflation across the board and the impact on the end selling price of the unit, you know, you have anywhere from 25 to 30 percent type increases in prices overall. And I would tell you that we're pretty consistent in that. that percentage increase that inflation that we've seen as well. So you would expect that as we go quarter after quarter and bleed those increases into our trailing 12 month number, you'd see, you know, an impact of inflation that's pretty consistent with what I think the end product has inflated for the end consumer as well. If that helps to give you a little bit of color where I would expect it to go for when it's ultimately 12 months baked in of price increase.
spk05: And because there were so many supply chain problems with, you know, competitors last year, I mean, we I can't remember a year where we took more meaningful market share in several categories like awnings and doors and axles and chassis. So in some pretty significant categories, we took some pretty meaningful market share, and that will show up through the course of 2022 as well.
spk01: Yeah, and that kind of opens the door, Jason, to my next question I was going to ask about. We've seen a variety of industries over the past 18 to 24 months have and have nots in terms of market share gains. And clearly you have gained market share in a variety of categories. I guess a couple different things related to that subject. One, based on your past experience, how much of those market share gains do you think are sticky? So we'll stay going forward. And then along that line, who are you taking market share from? And what are, if you could focus on, say, the top three to five categories where you are taking market share from? that you think are going to be stickier going forward?
spk05: Yeah, sure. So I think the most important point is that, you know, we last year, I think, you know, being good partners of the OEMs, we bailed a lot of situations out and put the OEMs in a position where they could ship units where they were looking at not being able to ship units. It cost us a ton of overtime to onboard a lot of these you know customers but again back to when craig cook called earlier you know because we have a solid culture and because we have people staying here and we don't have the the kind of turnover that the rest of the industry have we can you know take on some of those things so you know we're really successful there and um you know the the top products that you know we spent the most time on boarding with with mark new market share would would be you know awnings um entry doors, axles, and then chassis. And chassis is obviously the largest business that we have. I don't know if I answered all of your questions, but, yeah.
spk08: I think what I would add to that is a lot of those came with long-term, multi-year commitments, Catherine. You know, it was a very disruptive time. And, you know, as Jason mentioned, we had to, you know, work a lot of overtime. And, you know, so certainly our ask in those situations were for longer-term commitments. I would say they're pretty sticky.
spk05: Yeah, that's part of the question I was missing. I think the stickiness is better than ever because we did bail them out. They are going to remember that. We did put some longer-term contracts if we were going to take some of that business on because of how much stress it was going to put on the business. And I don't think our relationships with our customers have ever been better. You know, I can tell you from all the major OEMs, I mean, they've told us and all the brands, they've told us numerous times over the last six months that, you know, as good as anybody and have taken care of them through, you know, all the headwinds that we've had from labor to COVID supply chain issues. So I feel really good about the stickiness. Now, you know, we still need to be competitive. And, you know, we've got a, you know, 27 year history since I've been here, you know, of being competitive where and when they need us and being a good partner. So I think as long as we stay focused on that, we're in good shape.
spk01: Okay, great. And then just a final question. We were in Florida for the Super Show, have several big retail shows coming up. What's your outlook? You know, you've got great backlogs. That's going to keep you, you know, busy for quite some time. But from a consumer standpoint, what trends are you seeing now that you'd like to share that with? would impact the mix of the type of business you do going forward?
spk05: Yeah, so, I mean, it feels like, you know, certainly there's going to be a longer, I mean, we talk about the marine side. There's going to be, you know, a long runway there. On motorhomes, there's, you know, there's certainly more backed up than any other product category on the RV side. And we do have a meaningful amount of content, you know, in motorhomes. So that's going to be, You know, the B-van we just talked about, I mean, that's going to continue. I don't know if it's going to continue to grow 25% to 50% every year, but it sure looks like it's going to. That's a big trend in Europe, and, you know, most of the vehicles in Europe are B-vans for motorhomes. You know, a lot of smaller units. And, you know, I think we can continue to develop, you know, great content for small and larger, you know, RVs alike. So, you know, we're going to continue to keep our innovation machine moving and launch a lot of new products and stay attuned to what the customers need because they are telling us today. I mean, two years ago we had no mechanism in our company to figure out what the customers needed. you know, wanted to tell us other than, you know, a service-related phone call or a parts-related phone call. So now we're out there actually, you know, just asking what it is that they need and going back to ROEM customers and saying, hey, look, there's enough need out here for this, you know, change in the product or this new product, and, you know, they're listening.
spk01: Okay, perfect. Thanks for answering that question, Dave. Yeah, sure.
spk00: Your next question is from Brett Jordan of Jefferies. Your line is open.
spk07: Hey, good morning, guys. Morning. Morning. Could you give us a little bit more color on Europe? I think you sort of called it. It's sluggish given the lack of chassis. But could you talk, I guess, about the consumer cadence, you know, demand? Are they wanting product and putting deposits down and just can't get it because of the supply chain? And was there as much of a surge in sort of new buyer interest in Europe in the last 18 months as there was in the U.S.? Is it sort of a new user base over there like we have here?
spk05: Yeah, we've seen the same trends in new buyers over there, and there is a significant demand, and consumers want product and can't get it, much more so than over here. At least it's available, and the lead times are shorter because inventories are starting to build up. But over there, they're going to probably struggle for a little bit. I think towables are pretty available over there, but motorhomes are the bigger piece of the market. Like here, for some of the same reasons, their inventories are very depleted over there on the motorhome side. And, you know, the other difference is, you know, we've got, you know, the consumers in the U.S., there's, you know, said to be, you know, a couple trillion in people's, you know, bank accounts and investment accounts more than 2019. So, you know, you've got a couple trillion sitting, you know, in people's investment accounts and bank accounts here. We're over there. I don't think they've got the same. So you might have a little bit more of an effect over here in terms of demand because, you know, people have more access to cash. Yeah. Those would be the key thing.
spk07: Okay. And I guess your comment on inflation, you were looking for something in the 20% to 30% price increase, I guess, as a result of what we've seen in the last 12 months. How much of that is in the sticker already versus how much is to come if ultimately an RV is going to go up by 30% in the span of this COVID disruption?
spk05: Yeah, I feel like the amount of increases that the supply chain has passed on to the OEMs, is pretty well baked into the price of their units for this quarter. I mean, there's going to be probably some increases, you know, some smaller increases coming, but there's also going to be decreases, you know, in other commodities to offset. So it just feels like going forward from Q1 that they're going to be pretty – it's going to be pretty baked in. And, you know, ultimately you're going to see dealers probably start to, you know, cut margins – and cut their price to keep sales going and stay competitive. So, you know, we'll see what happens over the next few quarters there, but it certainly feels like that's going to happen. I know a couple of dealers already have started doing that. And it's time because in the beginning they didn't, you know, they didn't, you know, they're selling above MSRP and now they're back to looking at, okay, how do we keep everything going?
spk07: Okay. And I guess one final question, talk a lot about the aftermarket and this big service demand that exists out there. And there's obviously not much, you know, integrated service or chains of service providers in the RV space? Is that something that you could ever sort of vertically integrate into your model that you could actually physically service units? Or are you mostly going to supply the part and consultation?
spk05: Well, it's a really good question. We're, you know, we have some service bays around the country right now where we do do some service work on our parts. The question is do we, you know, do we, you know, be full service and do service for other components and things like that that we could certainly train our techs and do some of those things. So we're, you know, we're exploring everything. It's just... We're in a position now where we're just trying to get at what's coming our way. It's incredibly difficult to find good techs in this business because there's probably a shortage of close to 2,000 already. Our VIA has got a program, training techs and recruiting techs. I think that whole part of the business is going to change significantly over the next few years, but we're certainly going to play a part in it. you know, help the consumer when they've got, you know, component-related issues.
spk06: Great. Thank you.
spk00: Your last question is from the line of Craig Kennison of Baird. Your line is open.
spk04: Yeah, thanks for letting me back in the queue. So, Brian, I just want to clarify something you said about margin. I think you said that you see some margin contraction mid-year due to supply chain issues. Is that a year-over-year comment or a sequential comment?
spk08: I mean, primarily what I'm addressing there is that, you know, as I know you watch the commodity markets and what steel and aluminum has done and has been doing, certainly aluminum started to come down and then it went back up, but steel has continued to trend downward. So just like on the front side of this, as our margins lag by two quarters or our price increases lag by two quarters, When compared to what we're actually consuming from a cost perspective, we will see that, you know, once again as we go the other way. So that's where, as steel has come down to $0.60 a pound or so, I think is where it's currently at, you know, that gets looked at every quarter. And then two quarters later, you'll start to see our automatic indexing adjustments take place. So certainly as those price reductions go into play, you would see some margin headwind as that takes place.
spk04: Just to ask, are you saying year-over-year declines in margin or sequential?
spk08: More sequentially. So as we've caught up now, then you would start to see as we reduce prices, we will hang on for the two-quarter lag and get the benefit of that, and then ultimately you would see the reductions increase. which, given where prices are today, it's obviously a volatile market and could go anywhere, but as those steel costs have come down, those would be things that our index adjustments will be providing our customers with price reductions, which would be two quarters out.
spk04: That's very helpful. And then, Jason, you've got this new capability really to tap into the RV consumer in a different way. There's a lot of curiosity about that first-time buyer and what their experience has been over the last couple of years and whether they will stay in this industry. What kind of insights have you gleaned from your work as to what that first-time consumer plans to do and whether they're going to stick or exit the market?
spk05: Yeah, so I think probably the biggest thing we've learned is that, you know, They want somebody, you know, and I'm talking specifically, you know, the new buyers here. It probably applies to some of the second and, you know, people that have bought units before. But mainly for first-time buyers, they want somebody to help them through the process. And, you know, they get some help from the dealer and ultimately they get some help from the OEM. But, you know, to have somebody that's just a trusted source, you know, that's available, and we're trying to give 24-7 service, which I don't think has been done very many places in the industry. Not trying. We are doing it. We're trying to help with other problems, and if we can't solve the problem, if we're the only person they can get connected to, then we're trying to get the answers for them, either through supplier peers or through the OEMs. and just help keep the new buyers connected and feeling comfortable. Because I think that's their biggest fear is they just don't know how to do certain things, and then they can't get a hold of anybody, and then they get frustrated and lose the lifestyle. And we're trying to make sure that that doesn't happen. So I think just providing them an outlet where they're confident they can get a hold of somebody and get answers relatively fast. Part of it is providing all the video content out there. That's been huge for these new buyers. And then just, you know, kind of having that, you know, social place to go to where, you know, they meet people and know people face-to-face and they feel like they've got, you know, family in the business versus just some, you know, phone number that they call when they need some service on something. So I think they enjoy the camaraderie we've offered. And, you know, we haven't just – you know, put a hotline up and, you know, answer the phone. I mean, we've got, you know, almost 20 people dedicated to customer experience now, and it's a separate business from customer service. And I think that it pays off because customers want to talk to us more than when they just have problems, which is what customer service and customer care is normally. It's, you know, we're there when they, you know, have a problem where they can call and get ahold of somebody to fix an issue. But when you've got a customer experience department, we're going out and meeting them where they're at whether that's the the campgrounds or rallies or shows um and it's been meaningful because we've had you know tens of thousands of contacts with families that are you know new into the business getting really good feedback great hey thanks again yeah sure thanks presenters i'm not seeing any other questions at this time i would like to hand the conference back to mr jason lippert for closing remarks yeah i just want to say before i close that you know We did have a strong year to grow. $1.7 billion is no small feat, and I just want to shout out to all of our team members, all 15,000 across the globe that have participated there. If we didn't have a good culture and good teammates that were committed to coming back and dedicating passion and energy into our business every day, there is no way we could attain some of the things we accomplished in 2021. So we're really looking forward to 2022. We've got a lot of momentum, and we'll talk to you about that next quarter. Thanks.
spk00: Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen this concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
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