Lions Gate Entertainment Corporation

Q3 2023 Earnings Conference Call

2/9/2023

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Operator
Good afternoon and welcome to the Lionsgate third quarter fiscal 2023 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal conference specialists by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw a question, press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I'd like to turn the conference over to Neal A. Shaw, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
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Neal A. Shaw
Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us for the Lionsgate Fiscal 2023 Third Quarter Conference Call. We'll begin with opening remarks from our CEO, John Feldheimer, followed by remarks from our CFO, Jimmy Barge. After their remarks, we'll open the call for questions. Also joining us on the call today are Vice Chairman Michael Burns, COO Brian Goldsmith, Chairman of the TV Group, Kevin Beggs, and Chairman of the Motion Picture Group, Joe Drake. And for stars, we have President and CEO Jeffrey Hirsch, CFO Scott McDonald, and President of Domestic Networks Allison Hoffman. The matters discussed on this call include forward-looking statements, including those regarding the performance of future fiscal years. Such statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially and inversely from those described in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors. This includes the risk factors set forth in Lionsgate's most recent annual report on Form 10-K, as amended in our most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed with the SEC. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly release the result of any revisions to these forward-looking statements that may be made to reflect any future events or circumstances. I'll now turn the call over to John.
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John Feldheimer
Thank you, Nealey. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We just reported strong financial results and enter our fourth quarter with encouraging trends across all of our businesses. The domestic box office is rebounding and most importantly supporting a broader range of films just as our biggest slate in years returns to theaters. Our television series continue to earn renewals and move into later seasons where their contributions increase exponentially. With six scripted series renewed in the quarter, we now have a total of nine recent shows already renewed for at least their third seasons. We've reported record trailing 12-month library revenue of $845 million in the quarter from a broad mix of film and television properties. We continue to extend and renew our biggest properties, As you read on Tuesday, we're adapting six-time Oscar winner La La Land to the Broadway stage, shepherded by a world-class creative and musical team. Finally, though Starz had a softer domestic subscriber quarter, we've already returned to subscriber growth with the strong launch of BMF in the current quarter. Now let me drill down in each of our businesses, beginning with our motion picture group. The Gerard Butler action thriller Plane got this year's films laid off to a great start. It outperformed expectations at the domestic box office and in nearly every one of our international territories. And by pivoting to a pivot release date three weeks after its theatrical release, we're creating an outsized contributor that illustrates our ability to create bespoke business models, new and more efficient marketing approaches, and alternative distribution strategies. Next up is Jesus Revolution from I Can Only Imagine filmmaker John Irwin and Brent McCorkle. Early sales indicate a big win in the faith-based space. On March 24th, we release John Wick Chapter 4, starring Keanu Reeves, in the latest chapter of one of the world's biggest action franchises. If you've seen the trailer, you know why we're so excited. With John Wick 4 releasing in theaters in March and coming to stars this fall, the John Wick television event series The Continental, rolling out on Peacock and Amazon later in the year, the action spin-off Ballerina, starring Anna D'Armas, in production for release next year, and a AAA video game in the works, the John Wick franchise is set to drive outsized value across all of our businesses. In addition to John Wick, the slate includes new chapters of our Saw, Expendables, and Dirty Dancing franchises. And The Hunger Games' Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes arrives in theaters in time for the holiday season with a November 17th global rollout. We're looking forward to the releases of the original new properties on our slate. Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret, the retelling of Judy Blume's classic novel, Crazy Rich Asians writer Adele Lim's fun, freewheeling and raunchy directorial debut, Joyride, premiering at South by Southwest, and Tin Story's The Blackening, a horror comedy in the vein of Scream slated for the Juneteenth holiday weekend. and we're heading into production on Michael, produced by Bohemian Rhapsody's Graham King, directed by Training Day's Antoine Fuqua, and starring 26-year-old Jafar Jackson, who will portray his uncle, Michael Jackson, in the never-before-told and in-depth portrayal of the complicated man who became the king of pop. Turning to television, we reported another strong quarter of series renewals, launches, and new series pickups. The hit comedy series Ghosts for CBS reached an all-time series high in viewership last week and has become the number one half-hour comedy on television. It has been renewed for a third season and is poised for a long and profitable run. The Eugenio Derbez comedy Acapulco has been picked up for a third season on Apple TV+, where our hit series Mythic Quest from Rob McElhaney has already been renewed for a fourth season, with a companion series Mere Mortals heading into production. Power Book 2 Ghosts, P-Valley, and BMF were all picked up by Starz for additional seasons during or immediately after the close of the quarter. We also continue to fill the pipeline with new series. The wildly inventive Paul T. Goldman made a splashy debut on Peacock. The critically acclaimed first project from our 1619 partnership with Nicole Hannah-Jones, Oprah Winfrey, and the New York Times, a six-part docuseries on Hulu, is a reminder that great content is not only extremely valuable, but can also make a thought-provoking contribution to the national conversation. The HBO True Crime limited series, Love and Death, from the Big Little Lies team of David E. Kelly and Nicole Kidman, will have its world premiere at South by Southwest next month. And Apple TV Plus recently ordered a half-hour comedy series starring, co-written, directed, and produced by Seth Rogen. Financially driven by three straight years of strong television slates, our TV segment profit is growing 50% this year, with similar growth expected next year. Importantly, these contributions are coming from every part of our television business. Lionsgate Television, with one of its most robust slates of premium scripted series ever. Three Arts, the number one talent management and production company, continuing its very strong performance. Pilgrim Media, a non-fiction leader with 21 shows on a dozen networks, and Debmar Mercury, a top distribution and syndication company that recently renewed two of its biggest syndication properties, the Sherry Shepard Daytime Talk Show and Fremantle-produced game show Family Feud for multiple years. The value of great intellectual property grows with every prequel, sequel, spinoff, remake, and adaptation. And in that regard, I'm pleased to announce this afternoon that Lionsgate Television will produce an expansion of one of Star's most celebrated and groundbreaking original series, Spartacus. Spartacus writer and creator Stephen S. DeKnight will return as showrunner and executive producer. Big, bold, and fiercely premium, Spartacus adds another great Starz franchise along the Powerverse, Outlander, P-Valley, and BMF franchises. Turning to Starz, the streaming world is transitioning to an environment for which we've been preparing. More rational content spend, a focus on profitability instead of chasing subscribers, and greater receptivity to bundling and packaging. The bundling of Paramount Plus and Showtime, the evolution of the HBO Max and Discovery Plus offerings, and the emergence of new retailers are indicative of a landscape that plays to our strengths as a complimentary pure play premium service with a focused content strategy and two valuable and scalable core demos that can sit on top of every platform and be part of every bundling and packaging conversation. In this regard, we will announce our first major domestic bundling agreement next week. Against this backdrop, we'll continue to prioritize three things. First, continuing to execute Star's focused content strategy. Star has returned to subscriber growth this quarter with the launch of BMF. With Season 3 of Power Book 2 Ghosts and the long-awaited revival of fan favorite Party Down, we expect our subscriber growth trajectory to continue this quarter. Looking ahead, we have confidence in a slate with over 80% returning series, strategically scheduled with 10 pulls every quarter, and combined with a lineup of fresh studio movies from its pay-one and pay-two theatrical output deals from Lionsgate and Universal, respectively. Second, reducing our exposure to linear headwinds as our transition to digital continues, with 73% of Star's subscribers and 64% of our revenue coming from digital in the quarter. And finally, continuing to take costs out of every part of Star's business, domestically and internationally, as we remain focused on our most important metric, profitability. In closing, our plan to separate Lionsgate and Starz by the end of September remains on track. Separation will give our two core businesses the opportunity to pursue strategic and financial paths that make sense for each of them and unlock greater value by operating as pure play entities. We are exploring a number of financial strategies to leave both companies with strong balance sheets at the time of separation. With our film and television studio businesses operating at full throttle and Starz establishing itself in the streaming ecosystem as a complementary bundling partner of choice, operating on a standalone basis will give both companies a chance to shine. Now I'll turn things over to Jimmy.
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Nealey
Thanks, John, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll briefly discuss our third quarter financial results and update you on the balance sheet. Third quarter adjusted to EBITDA was $168 million and total revenue was $1 billion. Revenue was up 13% year over year, while adjusted to EBITDA was up 83%. The year over year revenue increase reflects studio strength across both TV and motion picture. while the adjusted OEBIDI increase reflects studio segment profit improvement at television and motion picture, as well as Lionsgate Plus. Reported fully diluted earnings per share was $0.07 a share, and fully diluted adjusted earnings per share was $0.26. Adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $30 million. These financial results put us in position to deliver on the fiscal 23 and fiscal 24 financial outlook ranges we provided on last quarter's earnings call. Now let me briefly discuss the fiscal third quarter performance of our studio and media networks businesses, as well as the underlying segments compared to the previous year quarter. Media Network's quarterly revenue was $380 million and segment profit was $50 million. Revenue was down 2% year-over-year as favorable shifts in subscriber mix that drove continued OTT revenue growth was more than offset by domestic linear pressure. Domestic revenues was down 6% year-over-year, while international revenue was up 46%. Media network segment profit was up 74%, and primarily reflects lower marketing spend, lower content expense, and foreign exchange. As we had outlined earlier in our fiscal year, content amortization expense peaked in the first quarter, and it continues to trend toward a more normalized level. Our international results reflect the impact of our decision to exit seven territories by the end of fiscal 2023. and the year-on-year improvement in the international segment profit reflects the progress towards our commitment to reach break-even exiting calendar year 2024. We ended the quarter with 37.2 million total global subscribers, including Stars Play Arabia. Excluding the subscribers in the international markets that will be exited in March, our global subscriber count was 28.7 million at the end of the quarter. Focusing specifically on our OTT subscribers in the remaining markets, we ended the quarter with 18.5 million global media OTT subscribers. This represents year-over-year global OTT subscriber growth of 14%, comprised of domestic OTT growth of 5% and international OTT growth of 33%. A modestly quarter sequential decline in global subscribers reflects a lighter slate of originals and pay-one titles. As John mentioned earlier, the domestic business has already returned to subscriber growth as we move into the March quarter. Now I'd like to talk about the studio business in aggregate. During the quarter, studio revenue and segment profit growth was driven by both television and motion picture. Revenue of $894 million was up 25% year-over-year, while segment profit of $148 million was up 71%. Library revenue for the quarter was a record $277 million, up 55% from the prior year quarter. On a trailing 12-months basis, library revenue at the studio was a record $845 million, up 13% compared to the prior quarter's trailing 12-month library revenue. Breaking down the studio business between motion picture and television, let's start with motion picture. Motion picture revenue was up 5% year-over-year to $289 million, while segment profit of $77 million was up 13% year-over-year on the strength of multi-platform releases such as Fall and Clerks 3, as well as Foreign Exchange. Revenue and segment profit trends in the quarter reflect continued strength in our library, as well as our multi- and direct-to-platform business. In addition, we have been preparing for the return of our larger theatrical titles over the next 18 months. In this regard, we are already seeing success with the recent release of Plain and expect to finish our fiscal year strong with releases of Jesus Revolution and John Wick 4. And finally, television revenue was up 38% to $605 million, driven by continued growth in output, which included both new and returning series, as well as strong library sales, including the licensing of Schitt's Creek. Segment profit was $72 million and was up over 270% year-over-year, reflecting solid performance across scripted, three arts, pilgrim, and library sales. Now let's talk about our balance sheet. Excluding the restructured Lionsgate Plus territories from trailing 12 months adjusted to EBITDA, leverage for the quarter improved almost a full turn to 4.7 times. We also continue to retain significant liquidity, with $425 million of unrestricted cash on hand and $1.25 billion of an undrawn revolver. This level of liquidity is particularly strong after having utilized over $100 billion of cash in the quarter to reduce the amount of bonds outstanding. In particular, we acted on a highly attractive opportunity to deliver our business by purchasing some of our unsecured bonds in the open market at a substantial discount. As you can see from our disclosures, we purchased $124 million of our bonds for $82 million, representing a $42 million reduction in net debt. Our cash position was further enhanced in the quarter with the receipt of $43 million from the partial sale of our interest in Stars Play Arabia. As a reminder, the cash proceeds from the gains on Stars Play Arabia and bond repurchases were effectively tax-free as we utilized a small portion of our $1.4 billion of NOLs. In summary, we finished a strong quarter with significant liquidity, and we have no maturities until the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025. We remain committed to strengthening our balance sheet and continuing to pay down debt while funding our investment in content and marketing from adjusted free cash flow. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Nealey for Q&A.
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John
Thanks, Jimmy. Operator, can we open the call up for Q&A?
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Operator
Good thing. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question will come from Steven Cajal with Wells Fargo. You may now go ahead.
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Steven Cajal
Thanks. Good evening, everybody. Maybe you could start by talking about what drove the uptick in the library revenue. You mentioned Schitt's Creek in there. Was that a big component of that increase, or was it more broad-based, including things like AVOD rights or just TV deliveries or anything else? So we'd just love to get some context of what drove that. And then secondly, just on the spin as it relates to that, I'm wondering if you could talk at all about what kind of corporate costs you're expecting at each of the studio and stars segment and anything about how you're thinking about the capital structures and where the NOLs are going to sit. Thank you.
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Nealey
Sure, Stephen. Appreciate the question. First of all, in the library, Schitt's Creek was a benefit in the quarter, but it was widespread. NAVOD continues to be a growth area for us, and library sales is just great demand across the board. What I would say, too, is to remind you that we also have more and more of our film slate coming online, and we effectively haven't had so much of our films refreshing our libraries in the last three years. We really have a lot coming up. Obviously, the the John Wick and Hunger Games franchises moving into this quarter and fourth quarter for John Wick and Hunger Games next year. So, you know, that bodes well for future library licensing revenues as well. With regards to the structuring the spin or separation, you know, I'm not going to get into the specifics of the – you know, of the capital structures there. But what I would say is with regards to leverage, you know, we're in a very good position. You saw we delivered a full turn this last quarter. And, you know, we're in a good position to further deliver. In terms of overall cost and corporate overhead, I would just note that we have quietly reduced our workforce by approximately 150 full-time employees or approximately 10% of our workforce. We've done this through restructurings and managing open positions. So that bodes well as we go into 24 for continuing to manage costs across the board, including programming, spin, marketing, and GNA. So that'll benefit the companies in separation.
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Steven Cajal
Thanks. Maybe just as a quick follow-up, Jimmy was wondering if you see any more debt out there that you think you can attractively retire?
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Nealey
Well, I don't think I'm going to get into what we may do there. I feel very confident, though, that in separation, Stephen, that the bonds will travel with stars. If you can see, we've already started to take some steps already to right-size that, if you will, for a separation. And we will then refinance the terminal A's and B's, and we have substantial, as you know, substantial unsold library rights on the studio side, which would facilitate that.
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John
Thank you. Operator, can we get the next question, please? Thanks, Stephen.
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Operator
Our next question will come from Barton Crockett with Rosenblatt Securities. You may now go ahead.
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spk03
Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess two, really. One, on the process, could you just give us kind of a summary of to the degree you can of what's advanced since last quarter, since everyone's focused on this and what kind of remains to be done for this to kind of move ahead. That's one thing. And then secondarily, you gave us some color around star subs recovery. I was wanting to get a little bit more kind of granular on that. And that would be, you know, you said there's growth. Is this growth off of what we had before this quarter or is this just growth off of where we exited the quarter? trying to get a sense of how much has already come back with the slate kicking in.
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Nealey
In terms of the timing of separation, you know, we've been doing a lot of work here preparing separate financial statements, discussing matters that would relate to a reverse spin of the studio with our auditors and with the SEC. We're on track to file our initial Form 10 before the end of March. And as John has said, we will conclude separation. We're on track by the end of September.
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John
Hey, Byron, it's Jeff. How are you? Thanks for the question. You know, we had a very strong financial quarter. You pointed out we had some softness and subs. We had two shows, new shows that premiered in the quarter that underperformed our expectation, a couple of dope pay-one movies which resulted in the softness. We have, as John said in his prepared remarks, Premier BMF, we're into one of our strongest content quarters. We've returned to growth. To answer your question, we've returned to growth as we've exited the quarter, but we do expect on a full-year basis to have a really strong year based on the 10 pulls per quarter and the way that we've scheduled our content for 24. Okay.
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John
That's helpful. Thank you. Thanks, Barton. Operator, can we get the next question, please?
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Operator
Our next question will come from Cutgun Morel with RBC Capital Markets. You may now go ahead.
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Cutgun Morel
Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Two, if I could. First, can you provide a bit more color on the restructuring charge in the quarter at the domestic media networks? And second, as we approach this spin, it's interesting because it seems more and more investors are kind of sharpening their pencils around the studios business. So I want to ask about motion pictures and if you could maybe flesh out the opportunity you see ahead over there, it's been quite a few years since you've had such a strong lineup. And if I go way, way, way back in my model to maybe a comparable year of late strength, the profit profile of motion pictures was quite attractive. So I know it's too early to get specific and we still need to see these films actually perform, but if you just provide any guardrails or color around your expectations, That would be very helpful. Thank you.
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Nealey
Sure. Appreciate the question. With regards to the restructuring charge on STARS, it's primarily domestic related to the curation of the domestic programming lineup. And I would just point out that in the quarter, there were no benefits to our adjusted results as a result of the restructuring charge. and the restructuring charge was excluded from the adjusted results to help normalize the trends. I would also point out that we similarly excluded from the adjusted results amounts that were almost completely offsetting that, which would be the below-the-line gain on a sale of a partial interest in Stars Play Arabia, as well as the gain on the repurchase of the bonds.
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spk06
I can give you a little bit of – this is Joe. Thank you for the question. I'll give you a little on the slate. So I want to first talk about the multi-platform and streaming business leading into our wide release slate because it's all lined up in a pretty extraordinary fashion. We've talked in past conference calls about growing our multi-platform business. That business has doubled. We've set up a streaming business, and those two businesses alone combined cover the cost of the motion picture group for 23. And at the same time, we've lined that up with, as that growth has happened, we've lined that up with the strongest slate we've had for many, many, many years. The interesting thing about what's happening, John in his prepared remarks talked about Plane and what a strong contributor it was. And we've been talking about this for a few calls. The actual fundamental economics of the motion picture business theatrical release have improved. And they've improved for a number of reasons. They've improved because you can just be much more prescriptive on every dollar of P&A you spend for a customer that comes in the door. And theatrical films have become scarcer, and therefore they are more valuable. And so whether it is our digital conversions, which are some of the strongest we've ever seen, whether it's the value of our pay television, whether it's various television windows, how we window them, John mentioned moving up PVOD. And so without giving you specific numbers, what I can tell you is the green lights that we ran, the green light films three years ago, at similar levels of box office have significantly improved. And so we're going into this year very bullish on the trajectory of the business.
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John Feldheimer
Yeah, I'd say sort of to finish that thought, if you think about that Joe's what we used to call segment two business creates the foundation for the business, pays for most of the motion picture group overhead, then you put on top of that a very robust wide release slate. I would say that we've given you an outlook for 24. that's strong. I would say we didn't put in any huge grand slam home runs in our movies. That's not to say that you should start thinking they're going to be. But I would say when you look at that outlook, I would say that we think that's certainly an achievable outlook. And I think you could say that with big home runs, you might have a fair amount of you know, success above that.
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Cutgun Morel
Is that helpful? No, that's great. Thank you all for the call. I really appreciate it.
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John
Thanks, Kun. Operator, can we get the next question, please?
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Operator
Our next question will come from Thomas Yeh with Morgan Stanley. You may now go ahead.
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Thomas Yeh
Thanks so much. One on stars for Jeff. Any more color you can share on the domestic bundling agreement? Is that with another complimentary streaming service, and how does that work exactly? Is the consumer price point different on a bundled basis? How should we kind of think about the unit economics and maybe the co-marketing approach? And then, yeah, great studio results. I mean, John, you mentioned television strength across the unit and mentioned three arts as well. Any color on what you see as strategic options with taking in that minority stake or an update on thoughts about, you know, taking the rest of that in? Thank you.
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John
Hey, Thomas. It's Jeff. Thanks for the question. You know, we've been talking for a long time about how STARS is a great complementary bundling partner all, and I think finally it's here. We're excited about it. The partner, obviously, is another complementary streaming partner that we're excited to go to market with. And as in any bundle, we will have a joint price point that's cheaper than the two individual parts to give consumer value. But in exchange for lower ARPU on that business, you get better churn characteristics, lower SAC, and all the benefits that you would see in the bundled linear world from the past. And so we're excited to kick that off. We're excited to have more down the pike. And we can't wait till we get it to market and see how it does.
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John Feldheimer
And in terms of 3Arts, Here's what I would say. This has been a great partnership. We've created a lot of value together, and it's value for both sides. There are numerous ways we can continue the partnership, but we're just beginning those conversations. I think it would be inappropriate for me to front-run those conversations.
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John
Thank you. Thanks, Thomas. Operator, could we get the next question, please?
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Operator
Our next question will come from Jim Goss with Barrington Research. You may now go ahead.
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Jim Goss
All right, thanks. Another thing on the theatrical business, there's been somewhat of an uneven return of content to the calendar. I'm wondering what sort of approach you're taking to the theatrical calendar in terms of how much of it offers legitimate opportunity. It seemed like there were some holes in the calendar last year and potentially looking forward this year there might be. Is this an opportunity for you?
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spk06
You know, as I've indicated earlier, we see enormous opportunity. We've got, I believe, 12 films in this current calendar. What we're seeing, to speak to the idea of opportunity, is You know, there aren't a lot of competitors left playing in that mid-budget space, and the economics, as I said, have improved. I can't announce it on this call, but we've actually added just yesterday an additional film into the lineup that has no risk to it, and it's kind of upside the way we structured it. And it's partially being, you know, being a theatrical distributor at this moment in time when others are focused on other segments of the business is And it gives us a ton of opportunity. So where we see openings in the calendar that match with either content that we're making or content that we acquire, we'll take advantage of it. I mentioned earlier our multi-platform business. We have a title called Sisu that we acquired in Toronto that is a movie that we acquired thinking it was going to be kind of a multi-platform release. We actually have seen the title released. And it, too, offers an opportunity to leverage our infrastructure, go theatrically. The economics by doing that will improve. And like any title that goes out, if the audience falls in love with it, we can have a breakout success.
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Jim Goss
Maybe one other. I think we talked about this perhaps in prior calls. But are there some additional films that you intend to go more direct to streaming that that might warrant a week or two in a theatrical window just to create greater value for you and the purchaser?
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spk06
We always want to maintain flexibility with our partners. We are building movies that are built specifically for streamers. We have conversations with them all the time about how can we add value And are there different models that will help them and be good for all of us? And so we would remain open to that as an opportunity. But whether we do that or not, there is an incremental leg of our business that we intentionally set out to build two years ago that's now a really meaningful contributor.
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Jim Goss
All right. Thank you very much.
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John
Thanks, Jim. Could we get the next question, please?
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Operator
Sure thing. Again, if you have a question, please press star then 1. Our next question will come from Matthew Thornton with Truist Securities. You may now go ahead.
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Matthew Thornton
Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I just had a couple of housekeeping ones, guys. You mentioned Schitt's Creek license in the quarter. Just wondering if you were able to quantify that. Secondly, in the release, you talked about the OTT subs and international in the remaining years. I think it was $8.5 million. Is that meant to be the bedrock number? That's the go-forward OTT number that we can then work off of? Or is there still more to kind of come down as you normalize those markets? That's the second question. And the third question was around the John Wick AAA title that you mentioned. Does that have a home? Does that have a studio that is taking on that project? Or is that still in negotiations? Thanks, guys.
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Nealey
Yeah, on the international side of things, excluding the remaining territories, we look to finish the period right around 7 million subscribers, which is what we said in the prior call. And that would be excluding Stars Play Arabia. In regards to Schitt's Creek, there are no specifics on that. Obviously, it was good in the quarter. But as we've had Mad Men in the past and we've had Nashville, we always have some you know, lumpiness relative to quarter to quarter in library revenues. But, you know, we have a lot of library and expect to fill that hole, if you will, as a tough comp going forward. So really feel good. And as I alluded to earlier, we have a lot of strong film titles that will be replenishing the library.
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John
Thanks, Matthew. Operator, could we get the next question, please?
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Operator
Our next question will come from Rich Greenfield with LightShed. You may now go ahead.
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Rich Greenfield
Hi, thanks for taking the question. I got a couple. So just maybe the first one for Jeff, just when we think about the domestic business, which I think, you know, subscribers sort of sitting around 20 million, I know it's down sequentially, but like, as we look out over the next, I don't know, you know, a few years, and I asked this from the context of, you know, as the business separates later this year, how should we think about what the trajectory is of that 20 million sub base? And what are the puts and takes as you look out over the next couple of years? And then I just want to follow up that earlier question on three arts. I know it's obviously early in the process, but you know, I, I, when you think about sort of the, the, the revenue and earnings impact of three arts, how big of a business is this and how integrated is it into the rest of Lionsgate meetings? Are there obvious, like, strategic people that this would fit with if you were to sell this? How do we think about sort of the importance of Three Arts to the overall Lionsgate and how much that business is generating today? Any caller would be great.
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John
Hey, Rich. Thanks for the question. Look, I think I'll start globally and work my way back into the domestic business. We think, you know, in the fiscal 25, 26 timeframe, the global business should be in the mid-30s. in terms of subscribers. The domestic business really continuing to pivot from linear to OTT, so really driving profitability and, you know, swapping subs to being more digital than they are linear. As John said in his prepared remarks, 64% of our revenue is already digital today. And then, you know, really pure growth internationally to get to that kind of mid-30s number.
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John Feldheimer
Yeah, on three yards, I appreciate the question, Rich, but I'm not going to give you that much of a color, as I say. We're just starting discussions, which essentially are both a combination of strategic discussion and I would say negotiation at the same time. So I'm not going to show you sort of all the cards in the deck, if you will. I would say in general, though, the color I could give you is 3Arts is a pretty much standalone business in terms of its management company. Again, it's been a great opportunity for us to work, A, with some of their talent, but also to help build them into kind of a mini studio, and they've done a great job in working really closely together. They've got some shows on Starz, one actually on the air, Serpent Queen, which is great, and another one that's in sort of very advanced negotiation that we're very high on. That business and that relationship will continue no matter what. And so we're going to have a lot of business together. Again, there's a lot of options and different ways This can play out. I think in virtually all of them, it's going to be extremely positive, and we're going to do it together with them as partners and just figure out how to both extract the value we've already created and to continue to create additional value.
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Rich Greenfield
And maybe just to follow up on that, could you just help us understand, because everyone may not be totally familiar with 3Arts, in terms of, like, it's talent representation, but do they actually own the – like, when works get created – Who owns it? Are those Lionsgate-controlled shows? Are those 3Arts-controlled shows? Do they have direct ownership? What exactly is inside of 3Arts, the catalog or not? Just trying to understand it.
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John Feldheimer
Yeah. One of the benefits that we had for them is having, rather than sort of participations that they have with their clients as executive producers, we've made them more owners. I don't know, Kevin, if you'd like to expand a little bit on that.
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Kevin
Sure, just to add to that, you know, we have four or five series together in which we're really essentially co-studios, co-owned. Lionsgate continues to do the things we do really well with our talented distribution team, our creative teams that work hand-in-hand with their group, and that really improves the overall economics and kind of long-range participation and upside and back-end for everybody involved, including the talent clients, free arts, and ourselves. So while we have five of those, we'd like to have 10 or 15, and we intend to do so.
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John Feldheimer
I think you could simply say on those shows, Rich, they're shared economics.
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Rich Greenfield
Thank you very much.
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Operator
You're welcome.
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John
Thanks, Rich.
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Operator
We have a follow-up from Matthew Thornton with Truist Securities.
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Matthew Thornton
Hey, guys. quick two quick ones i guess how housekeeping slash follow-ups um the uh the sale of shotgun wedding just remind us that that's fiscal 4q this year i want to make sure we have that right and then just coming back to the john wick video game timing um i had asked this earlier but it is is that something that a studio has already picked up or are you still in negotiations with a studio to build that to build that game thanks again oh game um
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spk06
We are in negotiations for a AAA game. We're not at the stage that we would announce the game. I believe Shotgun is the third quarter.
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Nealey
Yeah, that's the third quarter for Shotgun Wedding, so that was pulled forward from the fourth quarter.
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Matthew Thornton
Gotcha. Oh, so that was in 3Q, not 4Q. Okay, great. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.
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John
Sure. Thanks, Matthew. Operator, are there any more questions?
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Operator
It appears there are no further questions. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn it back over to Neal A. Shaw for any closing remarks.
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John
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Operator
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