7/31/2019

speaker
Dana
Operator

Greetings and welcome to the L3Harris Technologies fourth quarter fiscal year 2019 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host for today, Anurag Meshwari, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

speaker
Anurag Meshwari
Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, Dana. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our fourth quarter fiscal 2019 earnings call. On the call with me today is Bill Brown, CEO, Chris Kubesik, CEO, and Jay Malawi, CFO. First, a few words on forward-looking statements. Discussions today will include forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures. Forward-looking statements involve assumption, risk, and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those statements. For more information, please see the press release, the presentation, and our SEC filings. A reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to comparable GAAP measures is included in the quarterly materials on the investor relations section of our website, where a replay of this call also will be available. As supplemental information for investors, discussions also will include selected L3 and Harris combined financial information, which combines the historical operating results as of the businesses that had been operated together on the basis of a newly announced four-segment structure during prior periods, but excluding the operating results of Harris' night vision business and L3's divested businesses. With that, Bill, I'll turn it over to you.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

So thank you, Anurag. Good morning, everybody. I'm excited to welcome you to our first-ever L3 Harris Technologies earnings call. I'm also pleased to welcome our new Chief Financial Officer, Jay Malave, who joined us on July 1st from United Technologies, where he most recently was CFO of Carrier. Prior to that, Jay spent more than 20 years in the aerospace businesses, including as CFO of Unit Technologies Aerospace Systems and working the integration of the Goodrich acquisition. Many of you know Jay from his time leading the investor relations function at United Technologies, and I'm thrilled to have him on board and confident he will be a strong business partner to me, Chris, and the rest of the management team. As you're aware, on June 29th, in fact, in minutes after we ended Harris's fiscal 19, we successfully completed the transformative merger, establishing L3 Harris Technologies, and we really hit the ground running. On the first working day after closing, we consolidated headquarters activities between Harris and L3 and announced our new organizational model, creating four mission-focused segments that combine the top talent of both companies. In the first week, We completed 115 town halls with senior leadership touching 80% of all employees. And then in the second week, we held a multi-day leadership meeting where Chris and I shared our joint vision, values, and operating philosophy with nearly 100 executives and then set out our initial game plan. And I have to say that the level of energy and excitement across the company is extraordinary. So we're off to a good start as a combined company. We'll talk more about that in a few minutes. So let me first begin by providing an update on Harris's fourth quarter and fiscal 19 results, followed by Chris with L3's Q2 and first half results, and then Jay with combined L3 and Harris financials and guidance. So starting with Harris on slide three, we ended fiscal 19 on a high note with fourth quarter non-GAAP earnings per share of 39% on revenue growth of 12%, the highest top line growth we've seen in eight years. Overall company margin in the fourth quarter expanded 80 basis points to a record 20.2%. These results cap an exceptional year in which we accelerated revenue growth and had margin expansion in all three segments. We outperformed on all guidance metrics, and we delivered a record earnings per share of $8.29, up 30%, and free cash flow of $1.055 billion. Total company book-to-bill was 1.1%, driving funded backlog growth of 12%, and setting us up for continued top-line growth. All three segments contributed to our strong performance, driven by their top-line growth, which continued to exceed expectations. Let me take a few minutes to recap some of the highlights of the year on slide four and five, with additional segment detail in the appendix. Communication systems had a terrific year, with revenue up 14%, from solid growth in DoD tactical and public safety. DoD tactical ended the year with revenue up 31% from last year and up 80% from fiscal 17. This strong growth was driven by nearly $300 million of modernization demand from the Army, Marine Corps, and SOCOM as they embark on a multi-year upgrade cycle. Modernization order momentum continued in the quarter with the Army awarding us a second HMS MANPAC LRIP order followed in July with the release of the two-channel leader radio RFP. We also continued to execute well on our strategy to penetrate adjacent airborne markets and were awarded the initial prototype phase of the Air Force's Airborne High-Frequency Radio Modernization Program, expanding our leadership in HF from ground to airborne. International tactical performed as expected, and revenue was up 3% for the year. driven by the ramp of the Australian modernization program, early adoption of multi-channel products in Canada and Western Europe, and ongoing counterterrorism support in Africa. Overall, Tactical ended the year stronger than initially expected, with revenue up 14%, a book-to-bill of 1.1, and backlog up 17% to $1.1 billion. This combined with a well-supported DoD budget request increasing international demand for two-channel radios, and executing on expansion into adjacency gives us confidence in the continued growth trajectory and tactical for the second half of the year and the medium term. In electronic systems, revenue increased 14%, the ninth consecutive quarter of revenue growth, ending the year up 9%. This strong performance was driven by sustained growth in long-term platforms, F-35, F-18, and F-16, and more recently by growth on B-52 and SOCOM rotary aircraft, all of which collectively grew double digits as we leveraged technology upgrades and ramped production. Orders were strong in ES, ending the year at nearly $3 billion in bookings, with two-thirds from the avionics and electronic warfare franchises, as we continued to leverage our longstanding customer relationships to solidify our position on new and long-term platforms. In April, we received a $340 million award for F-35 release systems supporting LRIP 12 through 14, which means all of our F-35 production content across avionics and release systems is now under multi-year contracts, which increases medium-term visibility. We also received a $72 million production order to deliver upgraded countermeasure electronic warfare systems for the B-52 platforms. bringing that program's current value to over $430 million against a $1.3 billion total opportunity. This order momentum, along with our investments in innovation, increased content on existing platforms, and expansion on the next-gen platforms will drive a multi-year growth cycle in avionics and electronic warfare. In space and intel, revenue was up 8% for the quarter and the year, well above our initial expectation of 4% to 5%, driven by mid-teens growth in our classified business. Order momentum was even stronger as we saw continued success in strengthening incumbent positions and expanding the addressable market of our classified business by providing end-to-end mission solutions and penetrating new adjacencies. I'm also pleased with our relentless focus on operational excellence, which drove margin expansion across each of our segments, despite the mixed challenges that come with new program starts. Our operational excellence program, called HBX, has driven net productivity savings that have more than offset the dilutive margin impact of DoD tactical modernization and revenue growth on long-term platforms in classified space, resulting in total company margin of 20.2% for the fourth quarter and 19.8% for the year, 90 basis points of margin expansion. Similarly, our multi-year focus on working capital has delivered terrific results, We ended the year with working capital of 41 days, a four-day improvement over last year, and a 37-day improvement since the Excellus acquisition. A working capital reduction combined with earnings growth resulted in record free cash flow of $1.055 billion, exceeding the post-Excellus acquisition goal of $1 billion by 2019. Overall, we had an outstanding year of accelerating revenue growth, margin expansion, and record EPS and free cash flow. exceeding the targets we set for ourselves. And we'll continue building on those momentum as we go forward as L3Harris to drive continued above-market growth, margin expansion, and cash generation, creating long-term value for our shareholders. Let me now turn it over to Chris to discuss L3 results for the quarter and the first half.

speaker
Chris Kubesik
CEO

Chris? Okay. Thank you, Bill, and good morning, everyone. Let me take a moment to thank and congratulate the L3 and Harris teams for their hard work this past quarter. Today's results from both companies are due to everyone's focus in the uncertain times leading up to the close of this historic merger. As Bill mentioned, day one was seamless. We rolled out new email addresses to all L3Harris employees, launched a new website and portal that connected the 50,000 employees across the globe, and installed new signage at our 50 largest sites. On the operational side, in the first week, we issued nearly 40 RFPs to our supplier base, totaling $900 million in annual spend, to start leveraging the purchasing power of the combined enterprise and to work towards our cost synergies goal. Shifting now to L3 results, we had a solid second quarter, highlighted by our consolidated margin and free cash flow, both outperforming the second quarter guidance we discussed on our May earnings call. Margins expanded 160 basis points to 12.2%, and free cash flow was up 38% to $220 million. Non-GAAP EPS was up 18% to $2.91 on 2% revenue growth. These results capped a strong first half, with EPS up 21% on 8% revenue growth. Total company margins expanded 130 basis points to 11.9%, and free cash flow was $365 million, or five times last year's first half, as we executed on working capital improvements that resulted in a 12-day reduction over the past 12 months. Orders were up 8%, resulting in a book-to-bill of 1.11, and funded backlog increased 16%. Turning to the segments on slide 6, ISR revenue grew 2%, driven by a ramp-up in Westcam turret systems and the strength of our ISR missionization business, as several key programs accelerated, including the Australian Peregrine and the Presidential Aircraft Recapitalization Programs. This growth was partially offset by lower deliveries of night vision products due to export timing, and operating income was up 50%, resulting in margin expansion of 460 basis points to 14.3%. This was due to higher volume, improved contract performance, and L365 savings. In the first half, ISR revenue was up 12% and operating income grew 45%, with margin expansion of 280 basis points to 12.3%. In the communication segment, revenue was flat in the quarter with higher production volume for UAV communication systems, offset by lower volume in the integrated maritime and microwave product sectors. Margins declined by 130 basis points to 7.9% from the dilutive mix impact of the maritime developmental programs and the continued investment in unmanned undersea vehicles. For the first half, segment revenue was up 5%, with margin expansion of 20 basis points to 9.3%. Lastly, the electronics segment second quarter revenue was up 3%, with strong growth in precision engagement systems, which includes the fusing and ordinance business, F-35 display systems, and airport security equipment, more than offsetting the expected headwind in the defense training solutions due to last year's competitive loss of the C-17 training contract and lower volume from commercial flight simulator sales. Margin expanded 10 basis points to 13.6%. And in the first half, segment revenue was up 3%, with margin expansion of 10 basis points to 14.1. Overall, L3 had a strong first half, tracking above the guidance set at the beginning of the year and ahead of the amounts disclosed in the S-4. Looking forward, as we announced on July 1, and detailed in the appendix to the webcast slides, we have organized L3Harris into four segments that group technologies and capabilities to allow us to compete across multiple missions and domains. Cutting across these segments, we have business development, operations, and program excellence functions to drive further growth while achieving greater cost and operational and programmatic efficiencies. We have worked on the structure since we announced the merger in October and have assembled an outstanding, seasoned, and collaborative team to lead the new organization. I'm excited to be part of it and look forward to the work ahead. With that, I will turn it over to Jay.

speaker
Jay Malawi
CFO

Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. It's an honor to join the L3Harris team, and I look forward to working with the analyst and investor community once again. In a moment, I will discuss L3Harris guidance for the second half of calendar year 2019. And as a reminder, we have transitioned to calendar year reporting. But beforehand, in order to provide context and support for the guidance, I will walk through the L3 and Harris combined financials for the first half of calendar year 2019, which we prepared on the basis Anurag described at the start of the call. And I will also note various drivers and year-over-year comparisons in those results. Similarly, all comparisons included in the guidance discussion are to the comparable prior year period L3 and Harris combined financials. Okay, starting with results. In the second quarter, revenue was up 7%, and EBIT increased 16% on higher volume and operational efficiencies, resulting in margin expansion of 140 basis points to 16.3%. EPS grew by 27% to $2.42, and free cash flow was $487 million for the quarter. For the first half, revenue was up 10%, And EBIT increased 17%, also on higher volume and operational efficiencies, resulting in margin expansion of 90 basis points to 15.8%. EPS grew 27% to $4.65, and free cash flow was slightly above $1 billion, up more than 50% from last year. First half booked a bill was 1.07. Turning to our new segment structure on slide 8. Integrated mission systems revenue for the quarter was $1.25 billion, up 3% driven by strong growth in electro-optical airborne imaging systems and continued strength in the ISR aircraft missionization business, including the Australian Peregrine Program. Operating income for the segment was up 14% to $158 million from higher volume and improved program performance. Operating margin expanded 110 basis points to 12.6%. For the first half, segment revenue was up 12% and operating income increased 17% with margin expansion of 50 basis points to 12.1%. First half book to bill was 1.16. Next in space and airborne systems on slide nine. Revenue for the quarter was $1.2 billion up 17% driven by double digit growth in avionics and electronic warfare. from a production ramp and new content on long-term aircraft platforms, as well as continued strength in classified space. Segment operating income increased 25% to $225 million, and margin expanded 120 basis points to 18.8% from higher volume, strong program performance, and operational efficiencies. For the first half, segment revenue was up 16%, and operating income increased 19% with margin of 18.2%. First half booked to bill was 1.13. Switching to communication systems on slide 10. Revenue for the quarter was up 6% from strong growth in DOD tactical and public safety, partially offset by lower deliveries of L3 night vision products due to timing and a transitional impact to full operational capability of the UAE Land Tactical System Program. Segment operating income was up 10%, and margin expanded 80 basis points to 21.6%. A strong program execution offset the mixed impact from the ramp and tactical radio modernization programs. For the first half, segment revenue was up 12%, and operating income increased 18%, with margin expansion of 100 basis points to 21.5%. First half book to bill was 0.96, and that's coming off a book to bill of 1.27 in the last six months of 2018. And lastly, in aviation systems on slide 11, revenue for the quarter was up 2% as growth in precision engagement, airport security equipment, and FAA programs was partially offset by the expected headwind in defense training solutions due to last year's loss of the C-17 training contracts. and lower volume for commercial flight simulators. Segment operating income was up 11%, and margin expanded 90 basis points from better cost management. For the first half, segment revenue was up 1%, and operating income increased 9%, with margin expansion of 90 basis points to 10.5%. First half book to bill was 0.99. Okay, now turning to guidance for the second half on slide 12. The strong year-to-date performance gives us confidence that we will continue to outperform markets in the back half of the year. Starting with the top line, we expect second half revenue to be up in the range of 9.5% to 10.5% with strong growth across all segments. This is supported by high visibility sales coverage from our backlog and high probability follow-on opportunities. Second half total company EBIT margin is expected to be up approximately 170 base points to 16.7% from higher volume, operational efficiencies, and cost synergies. EPS is expected to be in the range of $4.95 to $5.05, which reflects higher profit and share repurchases, which we will initiate over the next few days. As announced on July 1st, the Board has approved a 10% dividend increase and a $4 billion share repurchase Authorization Program, of which we will utilize $2.5 billion over the next 12 months. In the second half, we expect to generate free cash flow in a range of $1.3 to $1.35 billion, reflecting higher earnings and a one to two day reduction in working capital from June 2019. Capital expenditures are expected to be $190 million or 2% of revenue in the second half. For the full year, revenue is expected to be up in the range of 9.5% to 10.5% with EBIT margin of approximately 16.2% and EPS in the range of $9.60 to $9.70. Full year cash flow, free cash flow is expected to be in the range of $2.3 to $2.35 billion. Turning to the EPS bridges on slides 14 and 15. Expected second half EPS at the midpoint of $5 reflects an increase of 94 cents, driven by higher volume across the four segments, operational efficiencies, and cost synergies, partially offset by the impact of a higher tax rate of about 18%. Expected full-year EPS at the midpoint of $9.65 reflects a total increase of $1.65, with $1.70 driven by operational improvement and cost synergies, an additional 17 cents coming from the elimination of L3 intangible and pension amortization and lower interest and share count, partially offset by a 22-cent tax headwind. Switching to the segment outlook, in integrated mission systems, we expect revenue to be up approximately 10.5% in the second half, driven by continued strength in airborne imaging systems, and growth in ISR aircraft missionization and maritime platforms, with operating margin of approximately 12.5%. Full year segment revenue is expected to be up approximately 11.2%, with operating margin of approximately 12.3%. Space and airborne systems revenue is expected to be up approximately 11.5% in the second half, driven by continued double-digit growth in avionics and electronic warfare. and strong growth in classified space. Segment operating margin is expected to be approximately 18.7%. Full-year segment revenue is expected to grow approximately 13.9%, with operating margin of approximately 18.4%. Communication systems revenue is expected to be up approximately 9.5% in the second half, driven by strong growth across all sectors, with operating margin in the range of 22.1%. Full-year segment revenue is expected to be up approximately 10.7%, with operating margin of approximately 21.8%. Lastly, aviation systems revenue is expected to be up approximately 7% in the second half, driven largely by continued double-digit growth in precision engagement. Operating margin is expected to be up, I'm sorry, expected to be approximately 14% from improvements in EDD and productivity initiatives across the segments. Full-year segment revenue is expected to grow approximately 4% with operating margin of about 12.3%. So to summarize, we expect the first half momentum to carry over to the second half in addition to the benefit from cost synergies, resulting in a strong 2019. I'll stop here and turn it back over to Bill for closing remarks.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Well, thank you, Jay, and I know that's a lot to take in. So let me wrap up with a few comments on the budget and our strategic priorities going forward. In regard to the budget, I'm very encouraged by the recent bipartisan deal raising the BCA caps over the next two years and removing the threat of sequestration. We continue to believe the House and Senate will support increased funding to meet national security demands, which are well aligned with our core franchises. And with budget outlays continuing to lag budget appropriations, we expect growth momentum to continue in the medium term. A few weeks ago, Chris and I aligned with our leadership team on our top strategic priorities, first and foremost being integration and accelerating the capture of cost synergies. We now expect to hit a gross run rate of $150 million by the end of calendar 19, putting us on track to meet or exceed 40% or $200 million of gross savings in calendar 2020. We're off to a great start on segment and headquarter consolidations and supply chain activities. and we're growing increasingly confident of exceeding $500 million gross cost synergies in calendar 22. Other priorities include driving operational excellence through our new program called E3, Excellence Everywhere, Every Day, establishing a new performance culture, building on the strengths of both companies, investing smartly and aggressively in technology to grow revenue and increase share, reshaping our portfolio to focus on high margin, high growth, technology differentiated businesses, and maximizing cash flow that will be returned to shareholders through repurchases and dividends. Overall, the progress and alignment in the first 30 days has exceeded our expectations, and we feel even more confident in this strategic combination and our ability to deliver shareholder value. So with that, let me turn to the operator to open the line for questions.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from Robert Stallard of Vertical Research Partners. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
Caller

Thanks so much. Good morning.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Hey, good morning, Rob.

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Caller

Maybe a quick first question for Bill. There was some commentary at the Paris Air Show that the combined company might be looking at some post-merger disposals, and I wonder if there have been any further thought or development on that front.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Well, Rob, thanks for the question. Yeah, it's definitely a key priority, as I mentioned in my closing remarks, in terms of the top priority for the management team. Certainly, as we've talked about before on this call and other venues, A broader mix of businesses gives us an opportunity to take a fresh look at the combined company portfolio and really think about what fits, what doesn't fit. It certainly gives us some optionality to do some things with businesses that we no longer consider strategic. You know, we continue to look at this through a couple of different lenses. Certainly one is does the business have technology that's required for differentiation? Can we deliver good returns? Can we grow and win, gain share, et cetera? and we're going to evaluate what businesses we're in based on those metrics. We continue to have this dialogue. Chris and I are working very hard on this. We're engaging our new board on this as well. We're not going to deliberate decisions and discussions in public, but it's really top of mind to us, Rob.

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Caller

Okay, thanks, Dan. Then maybe the follow-on for Jay, and welcome back. In the free cash flow guidance, there's around $400 million worth of adjustments, and I was wondering if How many of these are one-off items for 2019 and won't be repeating themselves in 2020 and beyond? Thanks.

speaker
Jay Malawi
CFO

You're talking in the back half, Rob?

speaker
Caller

Yeah, it's in the release. There's a reconciliation of the guidance for the full year. We've got 1.875 to 1.925, and then a number of adjustments that gets you to 2.3 to 2.35 adjusted free cash flow for the year.

speaker
Jay Malawi
CFO

Right. So when you look at that, we will continue to expect some of the integration costs we'll still see going into next year from a cash basis. But let me just take you back to the second half of free cash flow, because we expect an uptick in net income. There'll be a little bit of an outflow related to working capital with a one to two days improvement, but we're going to try to hold that flat And we'll see a little bit of a benefit in cash taxes. So feel good about the second half. And specific to your question in terms of what we see going next year, as I mentioned, there will be some continued costs related to the integration restructuring type level of costs and those type of items. But beyond that, I don't expect there to be other significant items that we'll repeat going forward.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

I mean, just in a nutshell, I think for the year, Rob, $260 million of free cash impact from deal and integration costs. We had about $25 million or so in the first half. The $235 million will be in the back half. About $100 million of that $95 million are going to be deal costs. That's going to be behind us by Q3. You know, the balance is integration costs, and we'll see some little drag forward into calendar 20 on integration costs as well.

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Caller

That's very helpful. Thank you.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our next question comes from Sheila Kayuglu of Jefferies. Caller, you may proceed.

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Sheila Kayuglu

Thanks. Good morning, Bill and Chris, and welcome, Jay. On the deal closing, you guys increased share repurchases in your dividend. How are you maybe thinking about your overall free cash flow target and targeting return to shareholders?

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Bill Brown
CEO

Well, I think, you know, as Jay was alluding to, we feel good about this year in terms of cash generation. We're still targeting $3 billion three years out. That's calendar 22. We'll certainly ramp to that. So I think we're off to a really good start in terms of the cash we generate in the first half, you know, LTM cash, what we're going to do this year. So, you know, all that's looking pretty good. We ended June on a pro forma basis with $1.7 billion on the balance sheet. You know, we're going to generate about, say, $2.5 billion more or less in the next 12 months. So That puts us about $4.2 billion more or less of cash available for deployment. Our dividend is about $700 million, $680 million. That's including the 10% increase we did that we announced on July 1st that will be enacted here in August. We'll reevaluate that in January, about $700 million of dividend. We have about $300 million worth of deal and integration costs. We just spoke about that over the next 12 months. We had to fund the SERP and deferred compensation programs. But what that means, it leaves you about $3 billion over that period of time for things to do, $2.5 billion on buyback, and about a half a billion dollars, Sheila, that's going to be held on the balance sheet just because that's what we require for normal work and capital needs.

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Sheila Kayuglu

Sure, thanks. And then maybe just on the margins, the pro forma margin guidance for the total company implies second half margins are up 80 basis points over the first half. but just a decent acceleration. Can you maybe talk about the moving pieces, how much of that is coming from synergies versus the underlying business profitability?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah, so you're right, Sheila. The first half on a pro forma basis is up 90 basis points. The second half up 170. So it's up sequentially as well, 16.7. For the year, about 130 basis points of margin expansion. So it's 16.2, a little bit better than we had thought when we put the deal together in the S4. So we feel good about the trajectory there. You know, as we mentioned on the call, about $40 million in the back half is coming from net cost synergies. There's a roadmap in the back on the EPS bridge, which indicates the absence of L3 intangibles and pension amortization. It's about another $40, $43 million. We see an operational improvement year over year in a couple of businesses from L3, including EDD. We see operational excellence savings, which offset some mixed growth, some investment in the back half. all of which gives us to about 170 in the back half, and we feel it's pretty well calibrated.

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Sheila Kayuglu

Thanks. Very precise as always.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Carter Copeland of Mellius Research. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
Caller

Hey, good morning, gentlemen. Morning. Good morning. Just a couple quick ones. One, I realize it's hard because we didn't have a Harris guide for the next fiscal year out there, but it looks like on a pro forma basis the top line that you've put forth for the second half is a little bit ahead of where we may have been on a pro forma basis coming in. Can you just verify that and maybe help us size it? And then as a follow-on, I wondered as part of the many decisions you made in getting the deal closed and whatnot, where you shook out on things like incentive compensation, not necessarily for the executive team, but as you go a layer down in terms of driving the sort of behavior that you want and if there was anything useful or notable to speak about there that will help us understand where your points of emphasis are. Thanks, guys.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah, sure. Carter. Thanks. So really in the first point, um, on a, on a combined, first of all, Harris is trailing a little bit backtracking a bit better on our calendar 19 in terms of, uh, versus the S4 and a combined company basis, uh, for calendar 19, we're about a half a billion dollars better. So, you know, it's, uh, it's quite a bit stronger than we envisioned, uh, late last year. We put out the S4, but again, as we mentioned at that time, the S4 was related to strategic plans, which were put together earlier in the year over the summer. you know, and the market's gotten a bit better. We want some strategic opportunities. So we feel good about where we're at in calendar 19, a bit better than we started. You know, 20 is looking pretty good as well, certainly with the budget backdrop, you know, strong funded backlog at the beginning, at the midpoint of the year, so up 15%. So a lot of it's tracking, I think, for really good top line progress. On the comp program, you know, we're still in discussions with our board in terms of what we do going forward, but Chris and I, obviously there's a short-term plan and a longer-term plan. On the short-term basis, it'll be some combination of revenue, op income, and free cash. And since we all know the importance of cash generation, the importance of driving work and capital improvements, there's probably a slight tilt towards free cash, much like we did a number of years ago at Harris. You'll know Chris mentioned about the big step up in the first half in free cash generation. up 5x over the first half of last year, I think 50% of the short-term comp for the L3 executives came on free cash. And we all know when you incentivize for something, you get results. So that's kind of what we're thinking on the short-term basis. Longer term, it'll be performance-based equity. You know, that'll be tied to the targets we're discussing with shareholders.

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Caller

Okay, great. Thanks. You bet, Carter.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our next question comes from Peter Arment of Baird. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
Caller

Yeah, thanks. Good morning, Bill, Chris, Jay. A question, Jay, I guess on CapEx, you mentioned $190 million for the second half of the year, about 2% of revenues. Just thinking about longer term as we think over the forecast period and thinking about your integration period, is that still a good number to go off of about 2% of sales?

speaker
Jay Malawi
CFO

Yeah, I believe it is, Peter. I mean, 2% this year on a full year basis, that's $380 million, $190 in the first half, $190 in the second half. I think going forward, it feels like that's the right place to be to fund and be prepared for the growth. And yeah, I think 2% is where you should go with it.

speaker
Caller

Okay. And just as a quick follow-up, I know you're not talking about quarterly guidance here, but just thinking about the second half guidance that you've put out, is there anything you'd call out regarding 3Q versus 4Q, either on the EPS or free cash flow, just thinking from a modeling perspective for the street. Thanks.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Nothing material, Peter. There will be additional non-GAAP charges in Q3 because of some of the deal and integration expenses, but on a non-GAAP reported earnings per share, revenue growth should all look pretty, pretty stable Q3 versus Q4. Thank you for the call, Eric. You bet.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our next question comes from David Strauss of Barclays. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
David Strauss

Thanks. Good morning. Thanks for all the information, and welcome, Jay. Thank you, David. Bill, you used to have, in the Harris deck, you had a slide that showed the medium-term outlook by segment. I wanted to see if you might offer, since we're new to the combined company segments, I wanted to see if you would offer your thoughts on kind of how the growth rates relative to each other among the segments might look going forward and also from a margin opportunity beyond what we're looking at for the second half of 2019.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Well, David, I mean, it's still a little bit early. I mean, obviously we just put the company together and it took enormous work to put together pro forma guidance in the back half. So it's a little bit premature to get out beyond that. But maybe just some high-level comments without getting into the segment-by-segment looks here. You know, for us, I mean, looking at 10% growth in a calendar year, in the industry that I happen to be in, it's pretty special. You follow us, you follow others in the space. You know, looking at 10% in the back half feels pretty good as well. So, you know, I mentioned the S4 is a little dated. We're doing a lot better than the S4, about half a billion dollars stronger this year. So we're coming off a stronger starting point. You know, in the S4, I think L3's numbers were growing at 5%, 5%, 6% in that range. We were a little bit higher than that. I see us continuing to grow in that mid to high single digit range into 20 and maybe a little bit beyond that. It comes from a good bipartisan budget deal. The top line budget's not growing that much, 3%, and then basically flat the year after. But the certainty that provides, the funding lines that we see, Tactical, F35, other places that affect the business look very, very good and very positive. I think there's $122 billion worth of with appropriations that are out there that are exceeding the outlays, so those outlays have to catch up. There's just a lot of dry powder in this system that should keep all of the boats moving in the water, and we feel pretty good about the medium-term outlook. On the margin side, look, ending at 16.2 this year would be a great result. We're at the front end of our ramp on synergies, only $40 million this year, getting to $300 million several years out. That's another 170, 180 basis points. So you can kind of run the math and get to 18% pretty quickly a few years out, and we'll ramp to that as quickly as we can. So, you know, as I look out in the back end of the year, we feel great, and I think the outlook in calendar 20 also looks pretty good too.

speaker
David Strauss

Okay, that's helpful. As a follow-up, I wanted to ask about the free cash flow issue. uh cadence beyond this year so you know you're guiding to the full year adjusted free cash flow number around two three you've got this three billion dollar target uh for 2022 i guess counter 2022. um you know it applies like a little less than 10 percent taker between here and there which just seems a little light given what you're talking about from a working capital upside opportunity and synergies. Can you just help square that why it's not a higher growth rate between here and there?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Well, look, we feel really good about where we ended on an LTM basis on cash. And just for referencing a couple of data points, I mean, Harris over the last 12 months was better by four days on working capital. So we went from 45 to 41, a day or two better than we thought a couple months ago. L3's results were 12 days better year over year in the June ending quarter. So we're making good progress. Over the balance of the year, we're only looking at another day or two between June and the back end of the year. But we're starting from about 75 days pro forma at the end of June. Harris is sitting at 41. I think we've got a lot of opportunity ahead of us. Let's get through the next couple of quarters. We'll give you guidance on calendar 20. And certainly as I look at Chris and Jay, We're all over trying to figure out a way to make sure that the cash gets accelerated. That's certainly what we're trying to do.

speaker
Jay Malawi
CFO

David, keep in mind that working capital is going to want to grow with the increase in volume, so our challenge is going to be to take out the productivity in working capital and hold it flat over that period of time.

speaker
Chris Kubesik
CEO

I'll just chime in that we're clearly focused on this, Dave. You've seen the progress, as Bill mentioned, the 12 days. Good news, a lot of that's coming out of inventory, a little bit out of day sales outstanding, so we haven't even – really focused on the payable lever. So the teams are working it hard and we're allocating targets right down to the program manager level. Everybody knows what they need to do to achieve these targets.

speaker
David Strauss

Great, thanks everyone.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our next question comes from Gautam Khanna of Cowan. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
Gautam Khanna

Yes, thank you. I may have missed this, Bill, could you talk about maybe some sort of ballpark of what to expect in divestments now that the deal is closed in terms of size, maybe by sales, and then have a follow-up?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

No, I don't think we're going to sort of size it today, only because the decisions aren't yet made, you know, and we're at the front end of the process. It's going to take some time to get alignment, you know, work the process. And what I'll do, God, and as I've done before, I know Chris has done before, is Rather than talking about something that we're going to do, I'll talk about what we have done when that is done. So we don't have a predetermined target for what we're trying to do. Again, what we're looking at is we want to make sure the management team is focused on the business that are strategic, ones that are technology-driven, have great returns, and we can win. And Chris and I have spent a lot of time in the last few months on this. We've worked with our boards. We've got a meeting coming up in a couple of weeks on this. So we're on it. but I'm not going to size how much the divestiture might be until we really get around to making some decisions around that.

speaker
Gautam Khanna

I appreciate that. Just a quick follow-up. Tactical comms book to bill looked pretty strong. I was wondering if you could give us some flavor on, you know, the 12- to 18-month outlook, the pipeline, international, domestic, and just any commentary you can give around how that would profit you.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah, look, I mean, the international pipeline remains pretty good at about $2.5 billion, and the shape of it's not changed a lot. So we had a good finish on international, a good basically flattish in Q4, but we had a good year, about 3%. You know, DOD pipeline is around $1.7 billion, so it's up a little bit. What's interesting is the mix. It's about 50-50 now between base and modernization. As we would have expected modernization to start to grow, we see that over the course of fiscal 2019, it basically tripled in size in terms of modernization. The pipeline is now half modernization in its fund. That's backstopped by what is a pretty good budget outlook. You know, so I got to tell you, we had a good year in tactical. The guys just did a great job. You know, we were up about 13% this year in calendar 19. You know, it's going to be, you know, about 10%, 12% or so low, double digit in the back half. DOD is going to continue to grow pretty well. And we see international in the low to mid single digit range. So, We see continued momentum in this business, you know, and it goes beyond the back end of the year based on what I'm seeing in the budget. So, you know, the tactical business is performing very well as expected.

speaker
Gautam Khanna

And last one for me, Bill, any major re-competes we should be monitoring over the next 12 months? Thank you.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Any major re-competes? Any re-competes? Is that what the question? Okay. I think if it was major re-competes, we really don't see a lot over the next 12 months. I mean, there's always places that we're bidding. There's opportunities out there. But there's nothing that's really significant. The one that's really come to mind is what we call our sensor program. It's where we do maintenance for ground-based telescopes on 12 sites around the world. It's a legacy Excellus program, $150 million, $200 million a year of revenue. It's under a recompete. But it's one of those programs I feel very strong about today. From way back when we bought Excellus, it was over 35%, 38% on-time delivery. We're closed the quarter at around 94%, 95%. Very, very good reputation with the customer. So that's the only one that's jumping off my mind as a recompete that certainly I got my eye on, but nothing more than that got them. So thanks for the question. Thank you. You bet.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our next question comes from Michael C. Armali of SunTrust. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
Michael C. Armali

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions and nice results. Just on the second half margins, specifically the aviation segment, I think you've got pretty strong margin expansion in the second half of the year. They are looking at 14% versus 10.5%. You gave some initial comments on what's driving that, but can you be a little bit more specific there on the sharp margin expansion in that segment?

speaker
Chris Kubesik
CEO

Yeah, this is Chris. We see an upramp from a couple main drivers. If you recall, we have the EDD business in there, which of course is a tough compare for 18 compared to 19. So we talked earlier in January about a significant improvement, 40 basis points from not having the same issues at EDD, which we don't expect to have in 19 that we had in 18. We have some E3 savings. that are pretty significant in the $40 million range, and we have a pretty good road path to execute upon those. And, you know, we have some growth opportunities in the commercial aviation sector, specifically avionics that has higher margins, in addition to some fusing and ordinance opportunities. All that contributes to the guidance we gave.

speaker
Michael C. Armali

Got it. And then just a bigger picture on the defense budget. I know we've got the two-year budget deal. But any thoughts on sort of what's taking place now with the expansion of this night court process that, you know, Mark Esper looks to be implementing? Do you guys see this as a risk or opportunity as you look at the potential pipeline of business, you know, versus modernization, legacy? I know, you know, funding lines look good now, but it seems like, you know, what we saw take place at the Army could be expanding now into the Navy and the Air Force and just wondering how you guys are viewing that process.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Well, look, I think it's still very early. It was only confirmed very recently, but through what he did when he was Army secretary was actually, you know, very positive, very productive. I think it's notable that he, with Ryan McCarthy, with the chief, got together and really prioritized where they wanted to spend limited Army dollars and focused on key priorities and start to move away from things that weren't you know, all that critical. You know, the fact is, I think between what we do, what L3 does on a combined basis, you know, the fact is we're working on, you know, important programs, and I think we ended up doing very well through the Army process. I'd envision the same thing over the cross DOD, what he's now going to work on. So, you know, the discipline of looking at where they want to spend dollars is important, and I think based on the things that we're working on, I think we're going to end up being pretty strong here.

speaker
Michael C. Armali

Sounds good. Thanks, guys. You bet.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our next question comes from George Shapiro of Shapiro Research. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
George Shapiro

Good morning. Good morning, George. I was wondering, Bill, if you could provide a breakdown of your revenues between the O&M budget and the investment budget, Because L3 had a high percentage from the O&M budget.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah. On the DOD side, it's about 55%, 60% DOD. It's about 50-50, O&M versus procurement.

speaker
George Shapiro

Okay. And then with some of the shorter cycle businesses that you're in and the flattening of the budget, is there any concern that your growth rate can slow somewhat quickly, more quickly than others with longer cycle businesses might have? Or are you thinking you're getting enough share that we keep going on with better than industry growth rates?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah, I mean, the short cycle business that we really have talked about in the past, George, is really around the tactical radio business. And that has become, you know, when we merged with Excellus, it became a smaller piece of the overall company, certainly as we improved in the other segments. You know, so it was like 35%, 36% of the legacy Harris company. It's now even smaller as part of L3 Harris company. But the fact is it is a relatively quick-turn business, but it's a little bit different today than it would have been a few years ago, where today a lot more of the business is driven by modernization, and modernization has a lot more visibility into it than these quick-turn, O&M-funded orders that we would have gotten in the past. So I'm not terribly concerned. We had a very, very strong fiscal 19. We had a really extraordinary first half of calendar 19 in DOD Tactical. that will naturally mitigate itself or slow down a little bit in the back half, but it's still very healthy growth north of 20%. So, look, it's a great business. We're across all of the different platforms, different contract vehicles, all the services that we're on the front end of what we believe is a multi-year ramp here, George.

speaker
George Shapiro

Okay, very good. Thanks very much.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

You bet.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our next question comes from Rob Spingarn of Credit Suisse. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
Caller

Hi, good morning, and congrats on the deal. I just wanted to go back to the guidance, and this really could be for anybody, but Jay, this is the guidance you gave. If I look at the second half revenues, it looks like in everything but AS, we have a slight decrease in growth. Is that just comps, or is there anything else going on there?

speaker
Jay Malawi
CFO

Yeah, Rob, some of it is comps. We had, you know, up in the last half of last year, some pretty significant growth rates. But, you know, you're talking, you're kind of splitting hairs. And in the integration mission systems business, it was 12% growth in the first half. We're expecting around 10.5% growth. So a real slight reduction there. In communication systems, we're nearly 12%. We're going to be 9.5% there, close to 10%. And so, yeah, I'd say more compares than anything else. But the growth rates are still pretty substantial and pretty significant support the 10% in the back half. As I said in my comments, high visibility with the backlog. We have 90% visibility in the backlog to the back half. And so we feel really good about going into this next six months.

speaker
Caller

And then I guess for the increase in growth in AS, does this go back to the comments that Chris just made about some new programs, or are there things ramping there?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

We're seeing what Chris called the precision engagement systems business ramps a bit more in the back half than the front half. It grew really nicely in the first half, even stronger in the back, and it's just a lot of classified work that Chris and his team have solidified themselves on. Plus, a lot of fusing business for munitions, and that op tempo there is pretty high. We're also getting a little bit better comps on the commercial training business. The defense training business looks a little bit better. The C-17 carries for the full year, but there's F-16 wins that have happened that's going to help mitigate the C-17 loss in the back half. So really across all the pieces of AS, it just gets better, and that's why we're seeing better growth in the back half than the front half.

speaker
Caller

Okay, and then just a clarification, just on the proceeds from the night vision sale, just the L3 pension pre-funding that I think you were going to direct those proceeds toward, has that happened? Is that in the op cash flow guidance for this year?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

What's going to happen is, so we're still on track for that. The net proceeds will be about $325 million. We expect to get through the process in Q3. It's deep in the CFIUS review, and that will be used to pre-fund the pension. You know, that basically mitigates any cash contributions on the L3 side to the pension through the next couple of years, I think through calendar, into calendar 22. You know, so that's like a $70, $80 million improvement, if you will, in cash. But, you know, remember, NetVision generated some cash, so there's a bit of an offset. On an annualized basis, that's sort of a $50, $60 million net benefit to us on the free cash side, and that is in our guidance.

speaker
Caller

The timing is in the guidance for this year.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

It's not in the back half. It's in the outlook as we get into 20 and beyond.

speaker
Caller

Okay. Thank you.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our next question comes from Richard Safran of Buckingham Research Group. Caller, you may proceed. Thanks.

speaker
Richard Safran

Bill, Chris, Jay, good morning. How are you? Good, Richard. Good morning. First, I had a bit of a top-level kind of philosophy question here. You know, for lack of a better term, you know, commercial business model has really been at the core of Harris's So what I wanted to ask was how long you might think it might take to apply that model to the new combined company. How long do you think it might be before we see tangible results? Just interested in any color you could provide there on how you're thinking about implementing that.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Well, it's a great question, and it's less philosophical, more financial in the sense of what we've tried to do And I relate back to where we were three years ago with Excellus. Excellus manufactured radios in Fort Wayne. It was under a sort of normal model and with cost disclosures. And we moved that up to Rochester. It took us some time, but that's now a full commercial model business. At L3, Westcam, the Westcam business they have is very profitable, nice-sized business, growing very well, great positions around the world. That's a commercial model business, much like what we do in the tactical side. There's a possibility to take the SATCOM business that L3 has, which is very strong, and over time migrate that to a commercial model. It's something that we'll work on. It may not be a needle mover in the next couple of years. It's something that obviously we're focused on. But I wouldn't say that that's going to be the key driver to margin expansion. It's going to come through operational excellence. It's going to come through synergies. It's going to come through basic better performance in our company. So, I mean, we're certainly on it, Richard.

speaker
Richard Safran

Okay, thanks for that. Now, just quickly then, on the F-35 program, you know, just following up on your opening remarks, you know, just generally, we've seen a lot of changes among suppliers on the F-35 program. So I just wanted to know, you know, are there still incremental opportunities out there for you on that program? And if possible, in your answer, could you just discuss how your content on that platform has evolved?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah, sure. We, you know... Now, I'm going to quote the numbers. This is probably just legacy Harris. I'm going to look to Anurag and Jay to confirm this. We're at $2.2 million per ship set today. So we do the common components. We do the metal system. We do the release systems. So about $2.2 million. That we know is going to grow to about $2.7 million over the next several years. You know, we won three different pieces of what they call Tech Refresh 3. So one is the mission computer. They're called the ICP. You know, there's the aircraft memory system as well as the electronic unit, the panoramic cockpit display, PCD, EU, and all those things add together over time to give us another half a billion dollars of content for F-35. So that's going to grow in terms of content for ship set, you know, and it's going to also grow with the ramp, which is why it's an important one for us to keep talking about. As the numbers of ships that continue to grow, plus our content continues to grow, it's going to continue to be a growth driver for the company.

speaker
Chris Kubesik
CEO

And, Richard, on the legacy L3, as you know, we had the crypto, we had the display. So, you know, think of another 500 or 600 per ship set as well. And when we put the merger together, we talked about the benefit of scale. I think Lockheed Martin would acknowledge we're one of the top suppliers. It gives you better access to the management team to be a part of the strategy. And we would expect a bit on other components in the years ahead, given our scale and investments.

speaker
Richard Safran

Thanks very much. I appreciate that.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Thank you, Ben. Our next question comes from Noah Popinak of Goldman Sachs. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
Caller

Hey, good morning, everybody. Good morning. Good morning, Noah. In the three, the $3 billion three-year free cash flow target, what is the underlying organic business segment that So, you know, putting aside anything below the line, putting aside the working capital opportunity and the synergies, just the core newly combined business segment EBITDA growth rate on that three-year basis that you are assuming in the $3 billion.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah, I think top line is around 5%, 6%, you know, a little bit higher than that on EBITDA growth. You know, when we – you know, it yields about half a billion dollars of incremental net income, incremental cash coming from growth over that three-year period.

speaker
Caller

Okay. I guess 500 on the new guy. Should I be thinking about that relative to the 2.3 to 2.3.5? So it would be kind of 20% of that but over three years. So call it a 6% CAGR?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah. It was off of like a $2.1 billion free cash basis. So it's going to be maybe a little bit less than that. But, yeah, it's in about that range, 6%, 7%. Okay. Okay.

speaker
Caller

And then just to make sure I have the bridge correct working off of this year, in the 2.3 to 2.3.5, how much working capital and synergy is in that? It sounded like the one to two days of working capital is maybe $50 million. And then I thought I saw $40 million of synergy in the deck, but then, Bill, I heard you saying $150. I didn't know if maybe that was a run rate number. Can you just clarify those for me?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah, sure. So there's $40 million of net synergies in the back half, so it's net synergies in the full year as well, and that drops through into generating cash on an after-tax basis. The $150 million is the run rate we'll be at in terms of cost synergies by the calendar year. So that's the run rate we'll be at, which gives us confidence that we could be at $200 million in calendar 20 gross savings dropping through. So that's how we talked about it. Over the course of the back end of the year, I think we're around 75 days on a pro forma basis in June. And as Jay pointed out, we're expecting one to two days of improvement sequentially through the back end of the year on working capital. So ending around 74, 73 days.

speaker
Caller

Okay. So I should be kind of in the zone of maybe call it $100 million of the $500 that you had in that free cash flow bridge of net income. after-tax synergy plus capital efficiency, maybe 100 of the 500 is happening in 2019?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

I'm not sure. We're looking at each other here. I'm not sure. Well, if it's 40 to 50 of synergy and then one to two days of working capital, I guess that would be... Yeah, one or two ways that we work capital on a full-year basis is probably on the order of $30, $60 million in that range. So it'll be half that over the course of the back end of the year.

speaker
Caller

Okay. And then just... Bigger picture on the margins, clearly the margins will expand if you achieve the synergy plans, but should we be giving consideration for margin expansion in the underlying business before synergies? Harris kind of had incremental margins from the partially commercial model. Legacy L3 had plans to continue to improve the operations and the margins of the business before the deal. Is it fair to assume the margins are expanding independent of the synergies and then synergies in addition to that?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

It's fair to assume that. Yeah, both independent businesses had talked about margin expansion in both pieces. It was on the order of 100 basis points, and certainly the synergies that we had talked about that would be incremental to that, which is going back when we first talked about the deal on a pro forma basis, the margin, the EBIT margin was around 14. We said that would get to around 17 through 18. 100 basis points of organic growth on margins, another 200 basis points on synergy to get to 17. Obviously, as we're coming here into calendar 16, we're doing a bit better than that as starting off here. So, yeah, it is incremental to the benefits of synergies, Noah.

speaker
Caller

Great. Thanks very much.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

You bet.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our next question comes from Seth Seifman of J.P. Morgan. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
Seth Seifman

Thanks very much, Ed. Good morning, everyone. I apologize if I missed it in the prepared remarks. I know there was a lot going on. But the profitability in the communications business at L3 in the quarter, you know, just nearly 8%. Maybe if you can address that. And it kind of seemed like we were, you know, moving past last year's issues. and kind of, you know, what kind of risks that presents going forward. Okay, Seth.

speaker
Chris Kubesik
CEO

Yeah, Seth, this is Chris. That was driven, as we put in the prepared comments, mainly by the maritime sector. You know, we have a pretty strong international focus in maritime. We have some steady cornerstone programs, as I cover them on, as I call them, focused on sensors and control systems. But there are some new developments going on. One in the unmanned arena, both surface and undersea, and that requires investments. And then we have some new programs for the Columbia and the destroyer and some laser weapons. Those were slowed in the quarter by some additional cost to get those development programs on track, and those will have long 10- to 20-year legs once we get going. So it was focused on maritime development, to answer your question.

speaker
Seth Seifman

Great. Thanks. Bill, in Legacy Harris, the space and intelligence segment, it seems like the book to bill for fiscal 19 was probably around 1.0, which is pretty solid, and obviously there's some good growth there, but there's also a ton of growth in the space budget. So maybe if you could talk a little bit about the visibility you have there and the confidence you have that you guys are taking a fair share on the space side.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah, look, Seth, I mean, we feel very good about the space business. You're right. I mean, in the year, the book to bill was a little over one. You know, backlog came up a little bit. So there's a good trend there, and we've talked about that pretty consistently over the course of fiscal 19 with the classified business being up mid-teens, orders looking pretty good. That comes from a couple of different areas. When we talk about our classified business, it's not just space. So there's opportunities in space, both exquisites as well as moving to small sats, and the team has just done a great job maintaining a strong position on exquisite components while at the same time taking the lead on full-end admission solutions with small sats. But our classified business in that area also relates to other domains, and that business continues to go well. Again, same philosophy, moving from providing components to subsystems, to now full mission solutions, whether they be terrestrial systems, near shore systems, deep water systems, you know, and that business has gone very well. And it's really this philosophy. The budgets are coming up, and we're expanding, you know, our ability to compete on more full end-to-end mission solutions. And you can see the trajectory happening in the back end of the year. We continue to see strong growth in a classified business.

speaker
Chris Kubesik
CEO

I'll just say that Bill and I spent a fair amount of time last week reviewing the classified business, and I was – thoroughly impressed with the technology and the opportunity. So we're excited about the space business going forward and other classified work.

speaker
Seth Seifman

Great. Thanks very much, everyone. You bet.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our next question comes from John Raviv of Citi. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
John Raviv

Hey, good morning and thank you. Now that we've had some more time pass, any sort of additional perspective on industry M&A would be appreciated by you guys as others talk up more scaled investments to increase their probability of wins and by definition taking some market share. What do you consider the impact to be on LHX going forward besides bagging you a nice CFO?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Yeah, we bagged you a nice CFO, exactly. So let me start and end with that one, John. You led with that. You know, look, I think we – so Chris and I started this conversation quite a long time ago with a goal of creating a very large-scaled mission solutions prime, and that's exactly what we've done. We continue to assess implications of what other people in this space do, but from what I look at just the company that we have created and the opportunities ahead of us, I think we're very well positioned. When you talk about scale, I think we are scale in places where we need to be scale. We're scale in tactical radios. We're becoming scale in the space business. We're scale in lots of different areas of the company, and we feel great. The company is a technology leader. Our strategy is to continue to invest significantly and aggressively in innovation. We've been running about 4% of our revenue in IRAD, and we can continue to see that continue to go up. You know, we've got a great set of people who are great technologists and business leaders to drive our business. You know, what's going to require for us to win is continuing to accelerate the deployment of technologies into the marketplace, into the field of the warfighter, you know, and continue to execute well on our programs. You know, that's what we can do. And no matter what happens in the market and the changes in the structure, we're going to keep focused on what we do well, the things that we can control. and it's the technology and the way we execute. So I think we're in a good spot here, John.

speaker
John Raviv

Great, thanks. I'll keep it to one since I know we're over time here.

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Okay, thank you.

speaker
Dana
Operator

Our final question comes from Josh Sullivan of Seaport Global Securities. Caller, you may proceed.

speaker
Caller

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the time for the last question here. Just given the success with the Excellus combination and maybe using that as a benchmark, can you talk about how the experience so far with L3 has been maybe similar to that integration and then maybe where it's been a little more dynamic?

speaker
Bill Brown
CEO

Well, certainly it's a much bigger scale, clearly, and there's a lot of complexity within L3. It was a company built over 20 years through a lot of M&A, and Chris has talked about the desire to move from a holding company to an operating company. We're sort of on that journey now. So getting information, getting it, you know, consistently across businesses is a bit of a challenge. But the reality is we're out of the gates very, very quickly. We've got a great seasoned integration team, people that are very experienced. They've done this before. There are a lot of people from the Excellus integration. We're getting data very quickly. You know, the enthusiasm and energy across the company is very good. You know, it's gone from my vantage point. certainly better than we would have imagined and better than we did with Excellus. We're going faster on supply chain. That was an area that took us a little time to ramp up to on Excellus, so we're at that a lot faster this time. Obviously, with the segments and the headquarters, we made those decisions. We executed on that on day one here, which is very important. The revenue opportunities ahead of us are quite significant, something that Chris is spending a lot of time on, and we're very encouraged. So we're going to get on that probably a lot faster this time than we did with Excellus, Keep in mind, we're in a different market space. We're a different sort of part of the cycle. Back with Excellus, we're still coming out of sequestration. The visibility and the budgets weren't very strong. You know, so we focus much more on cost side. This time is different. You know, and Chris and the team are really putting a lot of time and effort into making sure we understand where the revenue opportunities are and then making sure that we fund them. So, you know, I'm optimistic about the trajectory that we're on here, and clearly – We're on a great path to deliver half a billion of gross cost synergies and hopefully a bit more than that over time, Josh.

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Caller

Appreciate that. I'll keep it to one as well.

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Bill Brown
CEO

Thank you. So that wraps up our call. So thank you very, very much. Chris and I are very excited about the company that we've created and getting to the closure of this historic merger on exactly the minute that we thought we would be in middle October of last year. There's a lot of precision in that, as you'd expect from us and this team. We're very excited. We're confident we've created a lot of value for owners. But importantly, and Chris mentioned this in his comments, we have 50,000 employees at this company who are working very, very hard to deliver results, keep their focus on the customer, and we want to thank them for all their efforts. And we look forward to updating you again on the merger and the progress we're having at the end of October for our next earnings release. So thank you very much.

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Dana
Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a wonderful day.

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