Lemonade, Inc.

Thank you. THE END Good day and welcome to the Lemonade, Inc. Q3 2020 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Please note, today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Yael Wissner-Levy.

Please go ahead. Good morning, and welcome to Lemonade's third quarter 2020 earnings call. My name is Yael Wissner-Levy, and I am the VP Communications at Lemonade. Joining me today to discuss our results are Daniel Schreiber, CEO and co-founder, Shai Winninger, COO and co-founder, John Peters, Lemonade's chief underwriting officer, and Tim Bixby, our chief financial officer. A letter to shareholders covering the company's third quarter 2020 financial results is available on our investor relations website, investor.lemonade.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that management's remarks on this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the Risk Factors section of Reform 10-Q for the three months that ended June 30, 2020, and their other filings with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements made on this call represent our views only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update them. We will be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures on today's call, such as adjusted EBITDA and adjusted growth profit, which we believe may be important to investors to assess their operating performance. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in our letter to shareholders. Our letter to shareholders also includes information about our key operating metrics, including a definition of each metric, why each is useful to investors, and how we use each to monitor and manage our business. With that, I'll turn the call over to Daniel, who will begin with a few opening remarks. Daniel?

Good morning. I'm happy to report that our third quarter returned strong results along all key performance indicators. Despite concerns that the pandemic might disrupt migratory patterns and within our seasonably strongest quarter, we in fact saw robust growth and sustained improvements across our unit economics. Year-on-year, our in-force premium, or IFP, doubled. Our adjusted gross profit jumped 138%, while our losses per dollar of gross earned premium halved. Tim will elaborate on all our numbers shortly. Perhaps the most noteworthy thing that happened this quarter, though, is something that didn't happen. The dog that didn't bark, to borrow a phrase from Sherlock Holmes. In Q3, we had a major non-event which is easily missed and which I'd like to highlight. Wildfire season in the western United States started early this year, and the fires in Q3 alone made this year California's most destructive fire season ever. Hurricane season was equally ferocious. The National Hurricane Center named storms alphabetically, starting with A, but by mid-September they had literally run out of letters and had to start over, this time with the Greek alphabet. That has never happened so early. These unprecedented disasters hit the most populous states in the Union, which are also home to the majority of Lemonade's customers. Against this devastating backdrop, we see the significance of the dog that didn't bark. Our loss ratio for Q3 remained perfectly healthy. In fact, at 72%, it was more than 7% lower than the corresponding quarter last year. As a reminder, below 75% loss ratio, our reinsurers make money, our 25% take is safe even without reliance on reinsurance, and there's typically leftover money for a giveback. If our annual growth loss ratio occasionally topped 75%, that would also be okay, and our economics would be largely unchanged because our reinsurers would finance most of those excess losses. But the fact that our loss ratio didn't spike, even as catastrophes did, is a non-event of note. To put it into perspective, the industry is forecasting that home insurance companies will put the bill for about $10 billion of catastrophic or cat losses for Q3. If our underwriting was merely industry average, based on our market share, we could have expected cat losses of about $17 million. and a gross loss ratio of about 100%. Our actual cat losses, though, were some 75% lower than our pro-rata would have predicted, and our loss ratio declined year on year. This, I believe, is testament to our cautious approach to underwriting in wildfire zones and hurricane-prone parts of the country, and it shows that we're not growing by loading up on tail risk. Speaking of tails and dogs and barking, the second thing of note this quarter was a launch of pet health insurance. It's our first foray into an insurance sector beyond homeowners, and it's off to a roaring start. About 40% of pet policies were sold to first-time lemonade customers. These newcomers alone delivered about nine times more IFP than we generated from newcomers to Lemonade in the three months following our initial launch four years ago. And we did that at a rate of marketing efficiency that it took us three years to achieve with our renters' products. Not only has Pet Insurance provided an additional on-ramp to Lemonade, but about 5% of these newcomers added a renter's or homeowner's policy within their first quarter with us. And as compelling as the metrics look for newcomers, they are better yet for existing customers who comprise the majority of our pet insurance buyers. Each of these added an average of $450 to their premium, an almost fourfold jump in their median premiums, without us incurring any costs at all to acquire the incremental premiums. Pets may be our first step beyond homeowner's insurance, but as you will soon hear, it won't be our last. Our experience three months post-launch affirms our strategy of acquiring customers young when their needs are modest and ensuring they get a fabulous experience with lemonade so that as they progress through predictable lifecycle events, their insurance needs grow, often by orders of magnitude, and they do that growing with us. This significant upsell and cross-sell phenomena continues to gain steam within our homeowners business too. About 12% of our condo policyholders in Q3 started as renters at Lemonade and then graduated to become homeowners with Lemonade. In fact, while our overall IFP doubled year on year in the third quarter, our IFP from customers graduating from renting to owning grew by over 300% during the same three months. That's significant. The premiums of these graduates grew six-fold on average, from $150 before their graduation to $900 after, again, with no incremental cost to acquire the incremental premium. We believe these trends both within homeowners and between product lines have tremendous runway. We hope to give them a further boost by adding more products And on that note, let me hand over to Shai to update you on what's coming next. Shai?

Thank you, Daniel. In the insurance industry, there is an invisible boundary between P&C insurance and life insurance. The regulatory frameworks for the two are quite distinct, and insurance companies tend to settle into one domain or the other. We understand their considerations, but we strive to prioritize product launches based on customer needs rather than regulatory frameworks. which is why in recent months we established the Lemonade Life Insurance Agency and why we plan to bring the Lemonade experience to the term life market in the coming months. Beyond giving you a heads up about the forthcoming product launch, I'd like to use this announcement to highlight how we think about products and initiatives and their associated risks and returns. It is noteworthy that we're placing a bet on term life even though we're not certain it will be a winner. Teams we respect at other tech-enabled insurance companies have struggled to make the economics of digital acquisition work with term life policies, and we offer no guarantees that we can do better. So why are we launching term life? Because there are important differences between us and them, differences that make this a smart bet despite the uncertainty. For one, the downside is modest because we'll be leveraging technologies and systems already in place. we will not be underwriting those policies ourselves and we'll have a captive audience of a million customers to whom we can market for free. This is something we're excited about. Our technology platform, user experience, and incredible customer service can be leveraged for products we build from scratch as well as for ones that others underwrite. For another, the same me-to-we events that trigger graduation from renting to home ownership are often triggers for buying one's first life insurance policy too. The average age for buying a first home in the US is about 33, which is also about the average age when college grads have their first child, and is also about the average age of lemonade customers. Finally, while the cost of this bet is not high, the potential price is big. According to researchandmarkets.com, The global term life insurance market stands at about $800 billion this year and is expected to grow more than 10% compounded annually to over $2 trillion by the end of the decade. As we wrote in our S1 Founders Letter, we prefer to make decisions under conditions of uncertainty and to abandon bad debts as soon as the data reveal them to be so. That translates into greater volatility, but also to better aggregate returns, It's a trade we're comfortable making. And with that, let me hand over to Tim for a bit more detail around our financial results and outlook. Tim?

Great. Thanks, Shai. I'll give a bit more color on our Q3 results, as well as expectations for the fourth quarter and the full year 2020. Then we'll take your questions. We had another strong quarter of growth driven by additions of new customers, as well as a continued increase in premium per customer. In-force premium grew 99% in Q3 as compared to Q3 in the prior year to $188.9 million. This metric captures the full scope of our top-line growth before the impact of reinsurance and regardless of the timing of customer acquisition during the quarter. Premium per customer increased 19% versus the prior year to $201. This increase was driven by a combination of increased value of policies over time as well as mixed shift. toward higher-value homeowner and now pet policies. Roughly two-thirds of the growth in premium per customer in Q3 was driven by this product mix shift and the remaining one-third from increased coverage levels. Growth during premium in Q3 increased 104% as compared to the prior year to $42.9 million, in line with the increase in enforced premiums. Our gross loss ratio is 72% for Q3, despite significant cat activity in the quarter, representing an improvement from 78% in the third quarter of 2019. We continue to expect our gross loss ratio will vary over time within a target range for annual loss ratios, but below 75% with occasional short-term results slightly outside this range. It's notable that the average gross loss ratio in the P&C sector overall in recent years is approximately 82%, And for the top 20 players, about 72%. Even in a tougher cat quarter, our gross loss ratio remained highly competitive. Operating expenses, excluding loss and loss adjustment expense, increased just 11% in Q3 as compared to the prior year, with sales and marketing expense, again, actually lower by nearly 25% as compared to the prior year due to continued improvement in our marketing efficiency. Also to note, certain G&A expenses increased as expected related primarily to public company expenses like corporate insurance and professional services. We also continued to hire and eliminate team members in all areas of the company in support of customer and premium growth and new product launches and thus saw increases in each of the other expense lines. Global headcount roughly doubled versus the prior year to 459 people with a greater growth rate in customer facing departments and product development teams. Net loss was $30.9 million in Q3, slightly better than the $31.1 million loss we reported in the third quarter of 2019, with a notably larger customer and in-force premium base, while adjusted EBITDA loss was $27.6 million in Q3, as compared to $30.4 million in the third quarter of 2019. Our cash, cash equivalents, and total investments balance ended the quarter at $597.4 million, reflecting primarily the net proceeds from our July public offering of approximately $335 million, partially offset by the use of cash for operations of $71 million since year-end 2019. With these goals and metrics in mind, I'll now outline our specific financial expectations for the fourth quarter and the full year of 2020. For the fourth quarter of 2020, we expect In-force premium at December 31 of between $200 and $205 million. Gross earned premium of $46 to $48 million. Gap revenue of between $18 and $19 million. And an adjusted EBITDA loss of between $34 and $32 million. We expect stock-based compensation expense of approximately $3 million and capital expenditures approximately $1 million. For the full year of 2020, we expect, again, enforced premium at December 31 of between $200 and $205 million, gross earned premium between $154 and $157 million, gap revenue of $91 to $93 million, and an adjusted EBITDA loss between $103 and $100 million. We also expect stock-based compensation expense for the full year of approximately $11 million and capital expenditures of approximately $4 million. And as a reminder, please note that GAAP accounting rules are such that CD premiums are excluded from GAAP revenue. As a result, as we've noted, of this change in our reinsurance structure that was effective on July 1 to a significant proportional reinsurance structure, our year-over-year revenue and gross margin comparisons are not comparable. Accordingly, we publish in-force premium and gross earned premium as metrics that we believe are useful to analysts and investors because each captures the overall growth trajectory of the business before the impact of reinsurance. Thanks so much for joining our second quarterly review as a public company. We do appreciate your interest and support. With that, I would now like to turn the call back over to the operator who can perhaps rejoin the call with Q&A instructions, and we'll be happy to take your questions.

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on a touch-tone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, we ask that you please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. And today's first question comes from Ismael Dabo with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

ISMAEL DABO, Hey, thanks. Good morning, everybody. It's Mike Phillips, actually. Appreciate your time, and congrats on the next quarter. I guess I'm going to start off with the top line and customers. Last quarter, you had guided to what could be a tough quarter. This quarter, because of seasonality, you need people not moving as much as they typically would. And so can we drill into the new customers, the growth there? not the inputs premium but the actual new customers where did you see that come did you see the headwind you expected or offset by something else or with that headwind did that not show so kind of just drilling down into where the new customers came from I guess hey Mike sure so the customer growth came in remarkably as expected but as expected in a more normal year we have been cautious In Q2, heading into Q3 about what some of the cyclical changes might be this year. And the reality is we just really haven't seen them. We're seeing seasonal patterns repeat. A significant part of the reason I think that the numbers came in quite strong this quarter is because the things we had a little more concern about early in the year are not happening to a great extent. So we're continuing to add customers at a very healthy pace. important to note that we do focus even more so than customers on dollars. So premium growth is paramount. So sometimes the ebb and flow of the customer count can be slightly off cycle with that. But we're really happy with both the customer count growth and the premium growth. And I think you'll see sort of in the guidance and in some of the comments we make today that we're really seeing the year come together from a seasonality standpoint, very much in line with what we've seen in prior years.

Thank you.

Okay, thanks, Tim. You talked about the CAT numbers. You know, your net loss ratio was actually really strong, obviously. How much of the 6% CAT number that you talked about for the growth side, how much of that was, what was your CAT net loss ratio? And then if you could talk about, you know, what was underlying the really strong, and I guess we back out something from the CAT on how much the 6% was on that basis, but what was behind the really strong underwriting result from that basis? Yeah, I would think so. I don't have a disclosable number today. We'll have the statutory filings out shortly for specific CAT numbers. But generally, I can say that we saw roughly 10 points of impact from CAT in the quarter. A normal quarter does have some CAT impact, so not all of that was incremental from the more significant activity. Probably something like half or roughly half of that impact, I think, would be out of the norm. One thing to note when you're looking at the net loss ratio versus the gross loss ratio, there are some nuances because of our reinsurance transition that happened on July 1. And so we'll continue to kind of share that overall gross loss ratio, that 72% number is really the apples to apples comparison. And so if you back out the cat and you think about where we were last quarter at 67, pretty much right in line. And also even with the cat activity in line with where we were in Q1. So we're really pleased with how our underwriting enabled us to really weather what I think was a pretty significant test this quarter and bringing a loss ratio both on the growth and net basis that I think shows really strong performance. Okay, quickly, just a quick follow-up there. When you said 10%, Tim, did you mean the net is 63, would have been 53 without the gaps? I'm focused on the growth. Yeah, so think of it on a gross basis. Okay. And then I guess last one for now, I'll circle back. on your comments on the sales and marketing spend. And Tim, you mentioned how there's some efficiencies that you're getting, so the dollar amounts were lower. Was there any proactive reasons to lower because of what you thought might happen in the quarter with people not moving? So did you pull back any proactively on sales and marketing because of concerns in the quarter? So we don't really pull back in anticipation of things we're not sure whether they're going to happen. We're managing this in real time. And so when we see the ability to spend, we spend. And I think, you know, when you see the quarter and aggregate, it's hard to see sort of the ebbs and flows of how we manage the growth spending on a day-to-day basis. But we saw, again, really consistent patterns with what we've seen in prior quarters, or sorry, prior years. And that's really a kind of an arc over the course of Q3. Q4 is a seasonally tighter quarter generally. That's what we've seen for a few years now. That's, I think, reflected in the guidance. But I think, you know, just doing a year-on-year comparison on what we're spending for marketing and what we're bringing in, it's pretty, I was going to say extraordinary by the CFOs, but it's inappropriate to say that. But, you know, still a doubling of our efficiency, more than doubling of efficiency year-on-year is, It's just been a really significant improvement over the past four quarters. Okay, thanks. Last one real quick, I guess, and then I'll jump off. In your comments on a lifetime value, you talked about the IFP and how they grew 300%, over 300% in the quarter compared to last quarter from the graduation to homeowners. In your comments on the condo, it went to 12%, that 12% of condos have graduated from renters. So I guess I just want to specify the wording here on the lifetime piece. The 300% Is that graduating to condos? Can you make a distinction between condos versus homeowners in the 300%? Or is that true condo versus homeowners? Which one is that? Sure, sure. You're talking about the 12% in the condo. That's what I'm asking. Yeah, two very different metrics, but on the same topic. So the condo percentage is condos alone at 12%. And if you think back to something we've talked about for about a year, that's a nice, steady upward march. The 300%, we looked at all of our homeowner graduations. So whether condo or home combined, and we saw an uptick graduation rate three times higher than a year early. So good progress, but those are two different metrics. Yep, sure. Okay. Thanks, Tom. Appreciate it. Congratulations. Yep. Thank you.

And our next question today comes from Jason Hopstein with Oppenheimer & Company. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Kind of two questions. The first, maybe just broadly, why life insurance versus car insurance? Because I think that's just a question people have as you think about vertical expansion. And then the second, kind of with the launch of the life insurance, How do you think that will impact reported marketing efficiency? And to the extent that you lean into that, is there a way to, you know, would you be able to kind of separate out the impact over the next 18 months so we can understand kind of, you know, the efficiency in the legacy business versus the investments in the new business, et cetera? Thanks.

Jason, good morning. Daniel here. Let me take the first part of your question. It's not life instead of car. As we've spoken about at different times, our aspirations are pretty expansive here. We're looking to build really one of the hubris behind what we're doing is that we want to build an iconic insurance company for the 21st century, and that it's going to be customer-centric and cater in the fullness of time to all of our customers' needs and grow with them as those needs grow in turn. Three months ago, we launched Life. We've announced today that within three, sorry, we launched Patch. We've announced today that within three months, we will launch Life. So you see that we're at a fairly steady clip launching new products. And you can assume that before we're done, we will launch all the products that our customers need. So it's really just a question of sequencing rather than a question of why one rather than the other. As Shai mentioned specifically around Life, um there's a goodness of fit to other things that we we talk about so tim just gave some some numbers to mike about graduation and we do see that this kind of me to we life cycle events and when people go from being individuals to being families to having responsibilities that often coincides with um with buying a home with having a kid with establishing a family those things are are largely events that happen in close proximity one to the other. And you do see that the buying habits of life and home overlap a great deal. So we do feel like there is a goodness of fit, the right stage in life. But as I said, I go back to my earlier comment. This isn't one product instead of the other. It's just one before the other.

Tim? Yeah, and maybe from a marketing efficiency or unit economics standpoint, at this point, you know, Pre-launch, you shouldn't expect any dramatic shift in how we think about what we invest in marketing versus the dollars we acquire. We'll think of the customers holistically, and I think we'll probably see something that looks like uh pet to some extent to some extent where we'll have customers who buy life only as their first product and then hopefully branch into other lemonade products and vice versa we're nearing a million customers before too long and we anticipate that some percentage of those existing customers will also have life insurance needs and so it's common when they launch new products that the our internal key performance metrics and indicators start at a certain place and then tend to improve over time. That's kind of the nature of anything that's new. I would expect that to be the same for us. But we have in the past optimized reasonably quickly. PET actually got to a place quite a bit more quickly than our renters launched several years ago. And so this is something we're pretty good at. I wouldn't expect dramatically different unit economics due to the life launch.

Thank you.

And our next question today comes from Ron Jersey at JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

Great. Thanks for taking the question, Daniel. I wanted to drill down a little bit more on life insurance. And in the letter, you talked about launching it based on customer needs versus a regulatory framework. So maybe a follow-up to Jason's questions in terms of sequencing. Just talk to us about what your research is telling you with the launch of life, why life comes first, and then what your research is telling you in terms of what your users are asking for. And then you mentioned a few times, and Shai, you mentioned about abandoning bad bets based on data. Just talk to us about KPIs and timelines you've set to make these decisions as we do see newer verticals launch, which seems to be a cadence of every quarter now. Thank you.

SHAI LAWSON- Ron, hi. Thanks for that. Yeah, we did elaborate on this a little bit in the shareholder's letter as well, where I think the subhead of the paragraph about life talks about that sometimes launching a product is the best market research. And what we mean by that is that there is data out there about term life insurance. I gave some indication about why we think that age and stage triggers that result in the purchase of home insurance could also be good for life insurance. But honestly, we're approaching life insurance a little bit more cautiously. The data out there is next. The market is clearly vast, hundreds of billions of dollars going to trillions of dollars. And the overwhelming majority of our homeowners customers do pay somebody term life insurance, and we just as soon have them pay it to us. And those are very sizable premiums. So the prize is definitely worth going for. And as Tim mentioned, we'll have I think by the time we launch this, a million customers that we can market to internally, which also speaks to Jason's question about cost of acquisition, some of those other dynamics and the whole symbiotic story is coming together nicely. That said, we are being a little bit cautious on life simply because we've seen um others struggle in this arena um and for us it's new and we like placing these kinds of bets but there are real um caps a glass feelings on on how much you can trust or glean from market research so we do speak to customers we get inbound inquiries from customers we read all the research that's available and yet and my honest answer to you is that we really don't know if this is going to play out at what kind of and speed it would play out, what kind of adoption, and we're cautious about declaring victory before we've earned the right to do so. The one other thing, Ron, just to kind of flesh that out one more piece. One of the really nice things about this launch and some of the other things that we're doing as well is that these are bets. We do regard them as bets rather than certainties, but they're not that the company moves. the the whisks that we're taking actually very modest because we are leveraging everything that we've already done all of the technologies all of the branding all of the user experience all of the support staff the the licenses um and the install base so it's really a question of getting leverage of using all the things that we've already paid for for more and more and more products Life is very much being launched in that way. It's an exciting thing for us to be able to start to use everything that we've built for renters and homeowners and just layer on top of it new products. So it is a bet, but it is a modest ante with tremendous upside. We like those kinds of things. The expected return, the expected value of that kind of bet is pretty compelling.

That's great. Thank you, Daniel.

Thanks, Ron. And our next question today comes from Ross Sandler at Barclays. Please go ahead.

Hey, guys. Just two questions. So it looks like we're generating the highest gross profit per customer yet in company history, so congrats on that. Can you just talk about how retention and CAC – versus your three-key plan? And if LTV to CAC continues to improve, should we expect you to lean back in and crank up the marketing a bit more in the future? And then the second question is, as a California resident, yeah, fire season was pretty rough out here. Can you just remind us how the partnership with Palomar works? Are you guys underwriting renters and homeowners in California or are they doing it on your behalf? Just remind us how the California arrangement works. Thank you.

Sure. So California is essentially all us for this purpose. We do have earthquake coverage that's available through Palomar, but the vast majority of the coverage and the things we've been talking about today, that's all lemonade. So we're exposed, but clearly by the really strong performance and loss ratio, we're... expose a very limited level. There are other questions. I think maybe hit retention first. So retention is stable and modestly up is how I would term it. So if you look at the year one and year two retention levels that we've disclosed very specifically since we've gone public, those are steady and stable. Dollar retention and internal sort of longer-term numbers that we can see internally is starting to look somewhat more positive. That takes a while to filter through the system, but I think the headline there is nothing deteriorating, really kind of a year of uncertainty. So I think that's definitely part of our confidence in how we're spending and how we're guiding and how we're heading into the fourth quarter and into next year. uh under marketing question uh i think i think the way you put it is exactly right uh leaning in is exactly how we think about it so if you look um over the past two quarters or really three quarters if you include um pre-public where we've seen cost savings or ebitda improvement we've tended to reinvest you know with the exception of kind of april where things are really uncertain that's been the the mode of operation i expect to continue that in q4 it's a little more seasonally light, but regardless of that, I think we'll continue to lean in. We're not giving guidance for next year at this point, but I think the best guide for our future approach is what we've done in the past. And for many quarters in a row now, we've edged toward more investment, more investment meaning when we have more confidence, we spend a little more. And as long as those LTE to cap ratios are steady or showing some improvement, we'll continue to do that.

And thank you. Our next question today comes from Matt Carletti with JMP. Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks. Good morning. Um, let's hope any touch on pet insurance quickly. Um, you know, clearly off to a good start. Just hoping you could comment a little bit on, um, you know, kind of lessons learned.

I mean, it seems like things are going well, what, what has surprised you and then kind of how can you take those lessons and apply it to whether it be going to life insurance or whatever else might be ahead of us.

So, um, hi, Matt. Daniel here. It's been three months, and the first three months have been a very positive surprise. And one of the things that you know with insurance, you can't really beta test products. We were just talking about this in the context of life. Sometimes you do the market research live, and you learn the lessons post-launch rather than pre-launch. So we do try to do our diligence beforehand, but one never really knows until you go out and encounter the customer. we were very excited about the pet insurance product. It is unlike some of the other categories we have, home and rent and life, for that matter, where penetration is very high. Pet is a woefully under-penetrated market. Something like 99% of customers of pet parents in the U.S. don't have pet insurance. And it is fast-growing, so small but fast-growing, and it's a real opportunity for us to enter a space that is really kind of vacant, some kind of blue ocean, and go in there and rethink from scratch what pet insurance should look like, what it should cover, what the experience should be, what the response time should be, and to bring some of our thinking of lemonade to everything from the ground up, you know, rewrite the policy from scratch, the coverage, do it all in-house, work with regulators, build the technology, etc., and so it was a source of great pride i think it's it's one of our finer um moments really launching this product we used everything that we learned to the preceding five years and poured it into the design and the user experience and the customer support and underwriting everything really came together beautifully the the nice thing fast is not only that all that seems to be rewarded we're seeing just a lot of interest fast sales tremendous marketing efficiency beyond our expectations not that we knew exactly what to expect but At least internally, we have a consensus that this is not what we expected. It is a lot better. But the really nice thing is to see the lifecycle story come together, just like graduation, to be able to see that 40% of the people buying this treated Pez Insurance as a new on-ramp. These are people who weren't Lemonade customers, and now we have an entirely new set of tools to acquire a new set of customers who otherwise we wouldn't have got to. And that once we got to those customers through an avenue that was unavailable to us just a quarter ago, 5% of them within a matter of weeks added a homeowner's or renter's policy. So we're really seeing that the force of the cross-sell of the different products being able to serve as new points of entry both to the company and then one to the other. And the dynamics for existing customers that actually comprise the majority of our pet policy owners were even more dramatic. So seeing them increase their premium, the median increase in premium was 400%. We're just shy of 400%. So all in all, feeling very, very good about the way pet played out. And we just hope that it both continues the growth trajectory that it's on and that we can replicate it with products to come.

Great. If I could, just a quick clarification just with the life insurance launch. Just want to confirm, when you say you won't be underwriting it, that you're just purely acting in an agency capability, won't be retaining any risk, but obviously controlling customer experience and marketing and all those sorts of things.

That's exactly right. The user experience will be very much a London-made experience, but the underlying policy will be on somebody else's paper. to the consumer, this will be largely a transparent issue. But yeah, it's exactly what you just described.

All right, great. Thanks for your answers and best of luck. Thank you.

And our next question today comes from Heath Perry in Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Great, thank you. Daniel, I'd like to dig a little bit further into graduation. To the extent that the urban exodus wasn't a negative for the renters' business, could it have been a positive for your homeowners' business? Did you see any signs of lemonade renters' customers in cities moving out to become lemonade homeowners' customers?

Good morning. I don't have any data to support or debunk that thesis. So I really can't. I don't know, Tim, step in if you know something that I don't. But I couldn't confirm or deny that. I just don't know.

Gotcha. And then on the life insurance side of things, just to the extent that you've gone in this direction of opening up your customer base to other insurers, is this something that you could see yourself quickly doing?

doing on a commissioned agency basis in other areas of P&C categories, maintaining an eliminated experience, but using this type of model to just very quickly add auto and all of the rest of the categories at a much faster pace than maybe you might have otherwise.

Thanks, Heath. Let me share with you how we think about these things. This is actually not our first time doing this. Somebody mentioned on the call earlier the Palomar. So, for example, our earthquake insurance in California and elsewhere is not written on our paper, albeit it's through our platform, through our technology. And for consumer, we give a very seamless and integrated experience. But we have already been doing that. In some categories, we feel there is not a great fit between the kinds of risk that we want to retain or the kind of user experience that those involve. So, for example, term life insurance is a product with very, thankfully, very rare claims experience. The claims happen frequently. and sell them, and when they happen, it's after the passing of the policyholder. So unlike the high-frequency claims of pet and home and renters, this is one with very low frequency, very low need to interact and to control the claims experience. There's also very little doubt and litigation about the claims experience because life policies are resolved with a death certificate, so there's very little room for argument there. So for us, that made a lot of sense to partner with somebody where the underlying risk was borne by them, but we control all of their user experience, and we can offer the kind of level of experience that we want. I'm not sure that that will apply across the board, and the answer to your question about car insurance, other insurances, will really be answered by asking the question, how can we give the consumer the best experience that we want them to have and that they come to associate with a lemonade brand? And oftentimes the answer, as is the case with pet insurance, is we do it all ourselves. The existing infrastructure, the dependencies on incumbents, encumbers the experience to an extent that we don't feel comfortable with. And that's really the prism through which, or the litmus test through which we decide what to do ourselves and when to partner.

Great. Thanks, Daniel.

And our next question today comes from Mike Zuramski with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Good morning. I'm curious if there were any changes in the ways your new customers, nice policy growth, better than expected, I think. Any changes in the ways your customers were acquired? I think there are some third parties that showed that app downloads of lemonade might have been down a little bit and you can tell me if that's incorrect and maybe you saw a migration to to the uh the desktop yeah so kind of a two-part question so the the short answer is no no real no real change uh obviously there's a an immense amount of change sort of by hour or by day but if you look at over the course of the month or the quarter uh a consistent theme of optimizing key channels and and finding the best return or pretty agnostic in terms of geography so it's less about you know what states or what regions or even what countries for that matter we kind of go where the return is and that was substantially unchanged um on the app download question that's a it's a great question because it can um indicate something that's actually not happening and so the way um that our system works from time to time. It changes in terms of what proportion those customers choose to download the app or need to download the app. And that actually has shifted around reasonably significantly over the past few quarters as we've made some different changes. So it does not really indicate in a linear way the growth. And I think we set up this quarter where it actually appeared that the downloads were somewhat less. But this is an intentional move that we made to kind of optimize how the customer experience works. And so it's an interesting indicator, but it's not a great measure of the overall growth trajectory we're seeing. And our guidance really is the best view, I think, of what we expect that to be over the coming quarter. And you may see that the download number shift around a bit. But that was an intentional move. OK, interesting. I guess just lastly, can you just tell us who will be underwriting the life insurance policies? That's not something that's disclosed at this point. Okay. Thank you.

And our next question today comes from Arvind Ramani with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Thanks. You know, congrats on adding this life insurance. You know, you certainly made it clear that, you know, you're going to chase a much broader range of products. You know, how should we think about timeline for the auto insurance policy? Is it more for near term or longer term priorities? so we don't uh our practice is not to disclose uh timing until we disclose timing and so i think you know you saw that practice uh with the one with the launch of pet uh we let you know that folks know today our plans uh upcoming plans for europe and for life um auto is clearly a market that's important to our customers and and critical to the long-term vision we want to provide everything that our customers need and um unlike other types of coverage, everybody who drives has auto insurance. And so it's kind of a known quantity in terms of the potential market for us. So while we're not communicating specific timelines today, I think it's fair to say that it's as important to us as we believe it is to our customers. Great, great. And, you know, certainly with the kind of the Life insurance policy, you're kind of acting more sort of as an agent. Can you just maybe talk about some of the rationale for that? And as you look to add additional products, what goes into figuring out agency versus sort of owning the policy itself? yeah so it's uh maybe daniel jump in on this one too but it's a combination of things so uh one is speed you know products take time to build uh some products take longer than others but they all take time to build uh particularly at the level of customer engagement and customer um delight that is our standard uh and so we factor that in um we have a an overall book of business that we're trying to build and build in a smart way with a a solid and predictable loss ratio. So that is something we want to be comfortable with before we enter. And then we look at the potential partner structure. And if we believe there's a way to get a quality product to our customers at a level that we think is A+, then we'll consider working with partners. There's a time factor also from a regulatory standpoint. to launch something that's underwritten by us as opposed to a partner. So obviously it's much quicker to leverage a partner in that instance. So those are really the factors that we've thought about in the life calculus. Over time, our platform was built so that we can adjust. But at the moment, this is really a good mix for us. So Palomar was really our test case at a very modest level. Life will be, we hope and plan, will be more significant, and then we'll think in a pretty similar way as we launch additional products.

Just to add that, particularly with life, there's one other consideration that you should be aware of, which is that our insurance company, we own two insurance companies in Europe and in the United States. They are P&C insurance carriers, and actually to write life policies on your own paper, we would have to stand up another insurance carrier and capitalize it independently. So there were those considerations in addition to the other ones. So we do think that the real differentiation that we can bring in life is not going to be, as I said, in claims. In some of these products, the claims experience is a massive differentiation. In some of them, it's underwriting. But these are very long lead items for underwriting as well. So we think the big differentiation here is going to be user experience. And I think you'll get a sense of this when we launch the product. You'll understand why. And we can achieve all of that without standing up an insurance carrier. So that's one other thing to bear in mind. Oh, sorry. I interrupted you. I felt like you wanted to come in with something else.

Oh, yeah, no, that's super helpful. Just last question for me. Just in terms of customer acquisition, you've seen a nice improvement. Can you maybe talk a little bit about what drove that level of efficiency in customer acquisition? It's not really a silver bullet answer. We've got a bigger, smarter team than we had a year ago, and that was also true a year ago versus the prior year. Seasonality factors in pretty significantly. If you look at the amount of growth that we generated in IFP in Q3 versus year to date, it's actually almost identical to what we saw a year ago. Now, the ins and outs can be different day to day, but again, over the course of the quarter, it came in quite in line with prior quarters. We're getting a little bit better at each of the little pieces. So if you look at our creative today versus a year ago, better. If you look at the customer fit and the reactions from customers, they've always been super strong, but we're just getting a little bit better every day. And if you add those up over time, that has shown in combination to enable us to show steady improvement. There's a lot of data behind what we're doing. And so we're not only getting better at what the customer sees and feels and reads, But we're getting better about what the top of the funnel looks like, how to recognize folks who are the right folks to bring through the funnel, and that just helps with every step of it. Helps with better conversion, better ratios of policies to the top of the funnel. And it tends to feed on itself. There's probably better word of mouth. There's more people heading to a million customers before too long. There's a lot of folks who've now heard of Lemonade compared to a year ago or compared to two years ago. Now, in absolute terms, it's a tiny number, but relatively, that's probably also becoming a stronger driver of our ability to acquire customers. And then maybe the last thing I'd add is, we're becoming quite recognized by others. So not just customers, not just, you know, we have a great opinion of ourselves, as you would expect. But if you look at whether it's J.D. Power, whether it's ClearShare, and so whether it's other customer reviews, whether it's at the App Store, really, really consistent improvement over time. Good measures, good metrics, top of the market. And I think it's really a combination of all of those things. That's perfect, Kader. Thanks again for answering the questions. Great. Thank you. So looks like we've answered all the questions. So I think we'll wrap it up here. Great to have everyone participating. Excellent questions. And we'll wrap it up here and say thank you very much. And we'll see you in the quarter.

Thank you, sir. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.