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spk04: Thank you for standing by. My name is Ian, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Lightspeed First Quarter 2025 earnings call. A whole line to be placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, follow the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question again, press star one. Thank you. I will now hand things over to Gus Papadrogio, head of investor relations. You may begin your conference.
spk11: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Lightspeed's fiscal Q1 2025 conference call. Joining me today are Dak Basilda, Lightspeed's founder and CEO, Asha Bakhani, our CFO, and our CEO, St. Martin, our president. After prepared remarks from Dak's and Asha, we will open it up for your questions. We will make forward-looking statements on our call today that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. Certain material factors and assumptions were applied in respect of conclusions, forecasts, and projections contained in these statements. We undertake no obligation to update these statements except as required by law. You should carefully review these factors, assumptions, risks, and uncertainties in our earnings press release issued today, our first quarter 2025 results presentation available on our website, as well as in our filings with U.S. and Canadian securities regulators. Also, our commentary today will include adjusted financial measures, which are non-IFRS measures and ratios. These should be considered as a supplement to and not a substitute for IFRS financial measures. Reconciliation between the two can be found in our earnings press release, which is available on our website, on Cedar Plus, and on the SEC's Edger system. And finally note that because we report in U.S. dollars, all amounts discussed today are in U.S. dollars unless otherwise indicated. Before I hand the call over to Dak's, I just want to remind everyone that we will be hosting our capital markets today, the morning of Wednesday, November 20th at the New York Stock Exchange. Please mark your calendars and more details will follow. With that, I will turn it over
spk06: to Dak's. Thanks, Gus, and welcome everyone. This is my first full quarter returning as Lightspeed CEO, and I'm happy to report that we are delivering on our goal of profitable growth. Our first quarter results were characterized by strong revenue growth, increased payment adoption, and improved profitability, a trend that I expect to continue through fiscal 2025. We've also put measures in place to accelerate growth in our software revenue and customer locations that will largely be seen in the second half of our year. In Q1, we delivered revenue of $266.1 million, up 27% year over year, and significantly higher than our previously established outlook of between $255 million and $260 million. We delivered adjusted EBITDA of $10.2 million, again well ahead of our previously established outlook of $7 million, and significantly better than the adjusted EBITDA loss of $7 million in the same quarter last year. Payments penetration came in at 36% this last quarter, up meaningfully from 22% in the same quarter last year. Our growing payments penetration, along with a concentrated effort to control costs, allowed us to demonstrate the leverage in our business model and deliver record quarterly adjusted EBITDA results. These strong financial results demonstrate Lightspeed's success in fulfilling our mission of empowering independent retail and hospitality businesses with technology that was previously limited to large enterprises. Our focus remains on attracting our ideal customer profile, or ICP, being sophisticated high GDP merchants with complex needs. This quarter, we were honored to add a host of compelling new customers, including Google Bike in California, a set of three bike shops on the Google campus. G Bike allows employees to service and tune their bikes while at work. These three locations and their warehouse will provide a service to their customers. Hawkins in Dublin, Ireland, with three brands across 17 locations. This well-known home garden and pet retailer adopted Lightspeed's offering in all 17 locations after a successful three location pilot. Caravelle Shoes, this ICP customer with complex inventory management needs and high sales volumes, saw the benefit of the unified Lightspeed retail solution to replace its separate POS and payment solutions. Foodmaker, a well-known health food restaurant group in Benelux, France, with over 20 locations. Foodmaker was unhappy with their current POS provider and looking for a solution that could better handle their multi-location requirements. After a successful one location pilot, they planned to start rolling out Lightspeed restaurant across other locations. Northgate Resorts, with over 20 locations across the US, Northgate was looking for a more sophisticated cloud-based offering to manage their multi-location needs. They undertook a one-month pilot of Lightspeed restaurants at Tableside and Order Anywhere and so far have onboarded 10 locations with great success. Dineen Coffee, a highly successful boutique coffee house chain in downtown Toronto with five locations processing millions in annual GDP, has signed on for Lightspeed restaurants. Dineen plans to onboard its locations over the next few months to help them compete against the giants in the coffee industry. And for our supplier network, we added several new brands such as Tommy Hilfiger, Calvin Klein, and Valley, the well-known Swiss luxury footwear and handbag provider. I am always happy to welcome you customers to Lightspeed, but it is sometimes even more satisfying to welcome back customers that have previously left for one of our competitors. Having initially lost wedding dress retailer Amelia Wichstead to one of our cloud-based competitors, we are happy to see them returning to Lightspeed given the depth of inventory management, reporting, and multi-location functionality found within Lightspeed retail. As many of you know, I developed the original Lightspeed offering about 20 years ago and I have always been very product focused. And in this area, I am thrilled with the innovations that our R&D teams are delivering. The One Lightspeed initiative gave us two compelling flagships, and now that the integration is done, I am encouraged with the pace of innovation that we are seeing. We launched visionary new functionality this quarter and saw great traction for some of our recently released innovations, with our teams delivering amazing features that I believe are to delight and impress our existing customers and help us win many more. In retail, we launched our Ami Loyalty program, which allows customers to earn and redeem loyalty credits both in-store and online. And for store owners and managers, the Loyalty program can be managed directly from the POS without having to learn a new UI. Launched this quarter, we have already seen very strong uptake of this feature from our flagship customers. Our efforts in retail are focused on widening the moat between ourselves and other cloud-based competitors, and displacing legacy players currently serving our ICP customers. This quarter, we released three new advanced inventory management features which we believe are unique amongst our cloud-based competitors and especially useful for our ICP customers. These include landed costs, which incorporate items such as shipping and duties, its total product costs, bin location, which allows merchants to identify where products are located within warehouses and storage areas, and inventory adjustments, which allows merchants to record stock adjustments when and where they find them so that they can keep inventory records up to date. Last quarter, we announced improvements in inventory replenishing forecasts, which significantly improves the availability of previously -of-stock products. This feature will be generally available this month, and we expect it will help merchants improve their sales. Another feature that saw great adoption was payment links. Here we are seeing GDP process through payment links growing by over 30% month over month. A popular module in hospitality is our analytics product called Lightspeed Advanced Insights. Insights allows hospitality customers to determine which menu items drive the most repeat business so they can promote the items that are proven to increase sales and remove items that are underperforming. In retail, the challenge is maintaining the right amount of inventory on hand to maximize sales. Retailers want to have more stock of what is selling and less stock of what is not. Our teams have been working to deliver a retail insight solution that can help our merchants solve this problem, and I look forward to making an announcement on this release in the weeks to come. For our e-commerce offering, we recently released AI-powered product photo enhancements. Taking professional-looking photographs of products can be challenging for our merchants. Our AI tool can remove the background from photos, insert a colored backdrop, and create photo realistic shadows to enhance product images. Image quality can have a significant impact on boosting sales for our merchants, and we saw tremendous update of this feature. And for our supplier network, I'm very excited to announce that we have started to open up the pet vertical by adding 12,000 new pet products and over 20 brands, including popular brands such as Yeti and Farmeena. Merchants can now automatically upload product descriptions and images into their Lightspeed POS by simply typing in the product name, eliminating hours of key as manual data entry. We expect to add even more products to the retail catalogs this quarter, and we will be adding more catalogs from new and existing partnerships in the fashion and apparel and pet verticals. We also launched the Order Intense feature for our supplier network that allows brands to better understand what buyers plan to order from their product catalog, allowing brands to have better product planning for the upcoming season to ensure popular items remain in high supply. In hospitality, we announced the recent partnership with Uber. With simple flat rate pricing, this partnership will give our restaurant customers the ability to offer their own delivery service without hiring a single person or owning a vehicle, and also avoid the more costly alternative of using one of the many food delivery platforms. We continue to roll out our TableSide and Tap2Pay offerings in more countries within hospitality, which gives you the power of a full POS right in the palm of the server's hands. TableSide with Tap2Pay launched for Lightspeed restaurants in the UK and Canada, and Tap2Pay on iPhone launched in France and Australia. Our data shows that our TableSide customers have higher average check sizes, see better tips, and turn tables faster. Given its productivity improvements, we believe TableSide will encourage customers to adopt multiple TableSide terminals, which can boost overall software R-proof for restaurants. TableSide in and of itself is a fantastic offering, but we believe that when coupled with our -to-be released kitchen display technology, we will demonstrate a level of productivity improvement that restaurants have never seen before. Now I would like to take some time to discuss the I will remind everyone that for fiscal 2025, we are focused on three key operational objectives aimed at achieving our goal of profitable growth, and these are continuing to advance adoption of our financial services, controlling costs and finding operational efficiencies, and accelerating software revenue growth and gaining market share. In terms of advancing adoption of our financial services, we saw great momentum in payments adoption this quarter and expect payments penetration to continue the upward trajectory. Lightsea Capital also had a great quarter with revenues of $7.8 million, up from $1.6 million in the same quarter last year. And in terms of controlling costs, we are also seeing great progress here on the back of some tough decisions. The combination of a growing top line and control costs are delivering improved operating leverage in our business. Having spent the last year focused on improving payments adoption, we are putting in necessary measures to grow that business that launch pilot initiatives. Our efforts include increasing our outbound sales motion when they expand the team, gradually returning our account managers to their traditional roles of upselling software where previously many were deployed to accelerate payments adoption, updating pricing across our portfolio products for which we have recently started execution. This will impact revenues in the back half of the year. Perfecting all aspects of our customer journey in terms of how we land, launch, manage and support our customers. Growing our brand awareness in key retail and hospitality verticals. And finally, launching new software modules that allow us to continue to expand software ARPU. We are already starting to execute these initiatives and expect them to land as we approach the second half of the year. Before I hand it over to Asha, I just want to highlight that we released our sustainability report last week. I'm very proud that the Lightsea offering can help improve our customer sustainability efforts. Lightsea restaurant allows our customers to reduce their reliance on paper. Our supplier network helps optimize supply chains and reduce waste. And our capital offering can help independent entrepreneurs grow and thrive. We've gone even further. For example, creating the carbon friendly dining program, which helped plant over 1.8 million trees. And finally, we have created a culture that values diversity, where 86% of our employees feel that they can be their authentic self at work. And where women represent half of the executive leadership team. I will now let Asha take us through the quarterly results and provide our outlook.
spk08: Thanks, Zach. And welcome, everybody. Fiscal 2025 is off to a great start with revenues and adjusted EBITDA coming in ahead of our previously established outlook. I'm particularly encouraged by the leverage of our business model and the tangible results of our efficiency initiatives, which have contributed to a significant improvement in both revenue and gross profit growth, as well as adjusted EBITDA compared to the previous year. Highlights for the quarter include revenue growth accelerated to 27% year over year. Gross profit dollars grew 23% year over year, up from 15% growth last quarter. Adjusted EBITDA came in at $10.2 million, up from a loss of $7 million in the same quarter last year. Growth payments volume as a percentage of GTV came in at 36%, up from 22% in the same quarter last year, reflecting growing monetization of our trailing 12-month GTV of $90.8 billion. We began executing our share repurchase program in the quarter, repurchasing approximately 2.7 million shares for approximately $39.9 million. With our total share countdown from the previous year, this buyback has offset any share dilution arising from stock bid compensation in the prior 12-month period. Cash flows used in operations improved significantly. Beyond cash flows used in operations, when excluding cash used for the buyback and to fund our capital business, we had positive cash flow in the quarter. I will walk you through our latest quarter's performance, our key metrics, and finally provide an outlook for the upcoming quarter and fiscal year. Total revenues increased 27% and gross profit dollars increased 23% thanks largely to our unified payments efforts and growing software ARPU. Subscription revenue increased 6% year over year to $83.3 million. Gross margins on subscription revenue came in at 79% and increased from 75% in the same quarter last year. When removing the impact of share based compensation expense, gross margin on subscription revenue was 80%, a notable improvement and up from last quarter thanks to our continued effort to find cost savings across the business. I am very happy with our strong performance in software gross margins. As many of you are aware, last year our strategic efforts were centered on unified payments. As part of that effort, our account management team, which is usually focused on upselling our customers on software, was temporarily assigned to onboard new payments customers. Our account management team historically accounts for approximately half of our new subscription revenue in any given quarter. Although that team has started to return to their roles of upselling software, many account managers will still be focused on unified payments until the end of fiscal Q2 2025 and we expect this to impact our subscription revenue growth. As outlined in our last earnings call at the start of our financial year, we expect software revenue to improve this fiscal year with most of the gross acceleration expected in the back half of the fiscal year. Transaction based revenue grew 44% to $174.1 million dollars. In the quarter, we saw gross payments volume increase 64% year over year to $8.4 billion dollars as we process a greater portion of our GTV through our Lightspeed payments platforms. Lightspeed Capital experienced remarkable growth with revenue growing to $7.8 million dollars from $1.6 million in Q1 of last year as the service continues to be popular with our customers. Lightspeed Capital offers fast access to capital and an automatic repayment method through Lightspeed Payments. Merchants are leveraging this offering to finance inventory purchases, upgrade equipment and expand their overall business. Gross margins for transaction based revenue came in at 26% flat to the same quarter last year despite a greater portion of revenue coming from Lightspeed Payments. Capital continues to grow with healthy margins which helped offset declining referral fees. As we convert customers to Lightspeed Payments, we increase our overall net gross margin dollars and in the quarter we saw transaction based gross profit grow 44% year over year. Total gross margin came in at 41% slightly down from the previous quarter and year over year. Gross profit dollars came in at $108.2 million an increase of 23% year over year. Despite transaction based revenues increasing in the sales mix from 58% in Q1 last year to 65% this year, we were able to maintain our gross margins at comparable levels to last year thanks to the growth of higher margin revenue from items such as capital. Adjusted EVITA in the quarter came in positive at $10.2 million. This marks a significant improvement from the Adjusted EVITA loss of $7 million in the same quarter last year. This positive trend is attributed to our growing gross profit and our unwavering focus on prudent spend across the organization. Total suggested research and development, sales and marketing, and general and admin expenses increased by 2% to the previous year. This increase includes operating expenses related to the growth of our capital program. We've strategically invested in risk mitigation tools to scale this business effectively. As the percentage of revenue and gross profit, our adjusted R&D, sales and marketing, and G&E expenses declined significantly year over year. This reduction reflects our intensified cost management efforts, including the workforce reductions we announced earlier this year. We're continuing to examine and right size our cost base. Our ongoing efforts include renegotiating significant contracts, reviewing global locations to consolidate and reduce our scrutinizing corporate overhead such as travel and software licenses. Offsetting these cost reductions in part, we've been making investments in product and go to market. As we have mentioned, we do plan to continue to grow our outbound sales teams as they are more effective at winning merchants in our ideal customer profiles. And as Zach mentioned, we will continue to invest in product innovation to ensure we maintain our R&D for complex, high-GDP, brick and mortar merchants. We had an adjusted income of $16.1 million compared to an adjusted loss of $2.2 million last year thanks largely to the improvement in the items driving our adjusted EVITA performance. We continue to actively manage our share-based compensation and related payroll taxes, which were $11.7 million or 4% of revenue for the quarter, down from $18.7 million or 9% in the same quarter last year due to the ongoing prudent management of our equity pool as well as certain forfeitures in the quarter due to our recent workforce reduction. DCV from our flagships continues to be strong this quarter, up 24% year over year, demonstrating that for our target customers and with our flagship products, we're seeing good success with attracting the right customer base. However, in retail, same-store sales remain challenged, particularly in certain verticals, including bike and home and garden, and traffic in U.S. restaurants was down overall. As a result, our overall same-store sales were down year over year. Overall, DCV in the quarter, including non-flagship offerings, came in at $23.6 billion, up 1% year over year. In fiscal 2025, our focus remains on increasing our high GTB customer base and accelerating software revenue growth in both retail and hospitality. As Zach mentioned, we're optimizing our customer onboarding, management, and support processes, increasing our outbound sales effort, implementing targeted price adjustments, and reorienting our account managers back to upselling software. Sophisticated customer locations with GTB exceeding $500,000 and $1 million per year grew by 4% year over year, while those with GTB under $200,000 a year continue to decline. Excluding equity customers, our total ARPU for the quarter reached a record $502, an impressive 31% increase year over year. This improvement is the result of both unified payments as well as an increase in software ARPU, given our focus on our flagship products and on shifting our customer base towards higher GTB locations, which typically adopt more software. Retention rates for our ideal customer profile continue to improve. While there was a challenge for our customers that was associated with the launch of our unified payments initiative, we believe this challenge is largely behind us, with the vast majority of churn occurring in lower GTB cohorts. In terms of our balance sheet, life includes the quarter with just under $674 million in cash and cash equivalents, down from approximately $722 million in the previous quarter. Merchant cash advances used $15.4 million of capital during the quarter, and we used approximately $39.9 million to buy back approximately 2.7 million shares. Excluded cash used for our capital offering and the share buyback likely generated positive overall cash flow in the quarter, which was good to see as we positioned the company to deliver sustainable free cash flow in the future. We continued our efforts with unified payments in the quarter, and GPV as a percentage of GTB came in at 36%. Now that it's been a full year since our unified payments launch, I can say with confidence that this effort has been invaluable for us, in terms of improvements in our ability to sell, onboard, and get customers transactional on From the time we launched unified payments in May 2023, slightly over a year ago, our payments penetration has grown from 22% to 36%. We will continue to benefit from those improvements, and we expect the proportion of GTB flowing through our payments offering to continue to increase, as all new eligible customers onboarded must take payments. The activated cash ratios of our improved when they add payments, and we are seeing that in our results today. Now turning to our outlook. Q1's results provide us with increased confidence towards achieving our goals of improving adjusted EBITDA profitability and increasing adoption of our financial service offering. In addition, as Dax mentioned earlier, we have put in place measures that we expect to increase software revenue growth in the second half of the fiscal year. For Q2, we will likely see similar trends to Q1, with sales growth coming predominantly from transaction-based revenue as we continue to expand adoption of our payments and capital offerings. It is worth noting that for Q2 -over-year growth, we are lapping a significant revenue uplift due to the surge of unified payments customers becoming live last year. Furthermore, our initiatives aimed at growing software sales will only partially impact the upcoming quarter. For the second quarter, we expect revenue between $270-275 million and an adjusted EBITDA of approximately $12 million. For fiscal 2025, we are increasing our expectations for adjusted EBITDA from a minimum of $40 million to a minimum of $45 million, and we remain confident that we will deliver overall revenue growth of at least 20%. With that, I will hand the call back to Dax.
spk06: Growing our software revenues and ICP locations will be the next step towards our goal of profitable growth. I wanted to highlight that this company has had a long history of taking bold steps forward. In 2013, we decided to move to the cloud, and today all of our software revenues are cloud-based subscriptions. In 2014, we decided to expand beyond North America and into the restaurant vertical, and today, excluding equity customers, almost 40% of our locations are in hospitality and approximately half our locations are outside of North America. In 2019, we launched payments, and today transaction-based revenues account for 65% of sales. Our focus now is on expanding our ICP locations and accelerating growth in our software business. I believe we will approach these initiatives with the same enthusiasm and determination that has worked for us in the past, and that we will achieve similar levels of success. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.
spk04: At this time, I would like to remind everybody that in order to ask a question, press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Dan Perlin with RBC. Your line is open.
spk03: Thanks. Good morning. I just wanted to delve in a little bit deeper on the decision to keep the account managers a little more focused on payments through 2Q. It sounds like that was the game plan originally. To me, it felt like it's a little extended, but I just wanted to know, was there anything that was incrementally driving that? Maybe the last question was about the payment success that you're having. You want to just kind of prolong that? Or maybe there was just timing differences in terms of what you had anticipated in terms of what you were going to pivot back towards subscription-based?
spk09: Yeah, thanks for the question. JD here. No, look, we've been following the game plan that we've given ourselves for this fiscal year. Obviously, we're on the tail end of the unified payments program that came from last year, which as you remember, we started in Q1 in OEM retail, but then we progressed throughout the rest of the regions that we operate in throughout the year. Really, for us this year, it's really a story of two halves. Ultimately, our EM team, as you know, as you pointed out, is a big driving force of our software revenue. In that context, they're going back as the year progresses through to cross-selling and upselling software as well as payments, but really a balanced approach and also mitigating churn. So really, as the second half starts to come through, we're going to start to see software revenue growth come back above 10% and beyond, which we're really confident with. All the leading indicators that we see, the pipeline that we're building, is pointing in that direction. That's great to hear.
spk03: Just a quick follow-up. Any color you can give us or flavor around this updated pricing strategy that you got going into the second half? Is it on products that are coming back book or are these just kind of as net new clients come on, they're coming out a little bit higher pricing? Thank you.
spk09: Yeah, for sure. It's actually both. So we've done a lot of benchmarking. We even use external consultants to compare the value that we provide to our peers and given the value that we offer to our merchants with our software modules, we really see opportunities for price increases and we expect little disruption. We actually started executing on that and again here too, we expect to see the impact of that from Q3 onwards. Great. Thank you much.
spk04: Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Bausch with Wells Fargo. Your line has opened.
spk15: Andrew, you might be on mute.
spk05: Okay, thanks Gus. Thanks for the question. Just wanted to touch upon quickly the gross margin dynamics in the quarter. Came in a little bit lighter than what we were expecting, particularly with capital contributing that's $8 million in the quarter. So maybe just try to understand how we should think about that in the remainder of the year.
spk08: Hey Andrew, yeah this is Asha. Thanks for your question. So from the gross margin perspective, the quarter came in at close to 41 percent, which is relatively in line with our gross margin a year ago, 42 percent. And you coming from the fact that our residuals, which is the payments revenue that we would get from integrated partners, that's declining and those come in at 100 percent margin. Those are declining as we take those cohorts of customers and bring them over to Lightspeed Payments. So the net dollars that we get are higher. The net take is also higher, but from a gross margin perspective, that would come in at 100 percent gross margin, whereas Lightspeed Payments is 20 to 25 percent gross margin and in Europe actually over 30 percent gross margin. Where capital is concerned, you're right, capital did very well in the quarter and that does help our gross margins. Lightspeed capital comes in at over 95 percent gross margins, but we have to keep in mind that that is still a nascent business. The single digit millions that we saw in the capital revenue in the quarter is helping, but until we grow that business more meaningfully, that's when we'll start to see a more significant impact on the overall gross margin.
spk05: Got it, that's helpful detail. And then maybe more of a thematic question. You had a couple of highlights around the supplier network and building the brands that are participating in that endeavor. I guess, are we getting closer to a point where we can start seeing supplier network contributions in the model and if so, where would we kind of anticipate those revenues to come in?
spk09: Yeah, thank you for the question. You're absolutely right. On the supplier network side, we continue to find notable brands. Actually in Q1, we find Imperial and Valley amongst others. As Dax mentioned as well in the opening, we unlocked the pet vertical through our point of sale catalog that is powered by our supplier network adding 12,000 new pet products. And then our integration between our flagship retail point of sale and our supplier network is coming out of beta with record high NPS from customers that have connected their B2B account with our point of sale. So we're really proud of that. Now we're stepping forward to monetizing the supplier network and we expect to start to see meaningful impact as of next fiscal year. This quarter particularly in light of the strong feedback on the point of sale integration, we started to outbound retailers that use our B2B solution to order from their favorite brands. Brands that are in our network like Arterix, Tom's, Brunel, Luchinelli, Canada Goose and many others. Retailers can now pair their point of sale with our B2B account and these orders that they place from the B2B products flow through to our point of sale product which is really exciting. It shaves hours off their work week and that value prop is really resonating with those retailers. So we expect to see really some outside from that point of view as well going forward.
spk08: The only thing I'll add there Andrew on monetization is just as a reminder, we have about 10 billion of GTV that's not included in our GTV numbers. That's an annual GTV number that comes from the supplier network and we have started monetization of that 10 billion of GTV in a negligible way. We should see more meaningful monetization in fiscal 2026.
spk05: Great to hear the progress. Thank
spk04: you. Our next question comes from the line of Thanos Moscapolis with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is opened. Hi, good morning.
spk14: Can you update us on the progress you're making in migrating the existing base to the flagship platforms? Are you getting more aggressive in using carrots and sticks in order to track the migration or where do we stand in that process?
spk06: Yes, so Dax here. So our non-flagship platforms are profitable. There's very little R&D cost, low support cost. Customers are very familiar with them after the many years that they've been on them. So we are creating pathways for folks to migrate to the flagships given that all the exciting innovation that I shared in the opening remarks are happening on the flagships. So lots of incentive, especially for those businesses that have big ambitions that are a good fit for the flagships. Yeah, so the upgrade program is great for retention and it's also a great path for them. But we will detail more of what we'll do in terms of large customer base shifts at Capital Markets today.
spk14: And with respect to payments penetration, as we march from the 36% this quarter to the 50% that you're targeting, should you assume that the sequential pace of migration starts to accelerate as you're refocusing the sales force? Or how should we think about that slope over the near term?
spk08: Hey, it's Anos. It's Dasha. Thanks for the question. I think that, you know, obviously payments penetration is impacted quite significantly by the puts and takes of GTV. So, you know, Q3, which is our strongest selling quarter for retail, which is our biggest cohort, you're going to see GTV increase and that's going to impact payments penetration. I wouldn't say we expect it to decelerate because our AMs are now refocused on software because, you know, ultimately every net new eligible customer is forced to take payments and that's going to continue to sort of march our payments penetration on this upward trajectory. So don't think that the AMs or we don't think that the AMs coming back to selling software will really impact that payment penetration in a significant way, just given what's happening on the new book. But the payments penetration is impacted by just the puts and the takes of GTV.
spk14: Okay, great. I'll
spk08: pass it on. Thank
spk14: you.
spk04: Our next question comes from the line of Timothy Chiodo with UBS. Your line has opened.
spk07: Great. Thanks a lot for taking the question. I know we touched on this a little bit earlier with front book, back book on the pricing that is already starting and rolling out a little bit more as we go through the year. But maybe we could look at it a different way in terms of trying to quantify. Can you talk about the portion of customers that might receive such a price increase on the subscription side and the relative levels, so kind of X percent of locations receive a Y percent on average price increase so that we can get at least a rough sense or a range of what it could mean to subscription revenue once fully rolled out in terms of the pricing? Thanks a lot.
spk09: Yeah, thank you. Thank you for the question. The challenge is I don't think we believe, I mean, it's tricky to share the exact numbers. In some ways it is a sensitive nature and we want to be conscious of how we share this. But what I can say for sure is it is a significant number of customers where we see an opportunity to make a meaningful price adjustment. But again, we want to be careful how we communicate this. We want to communicate with our customers first and foremost and that will make its way through.
spk07: No problem. I think that's helpful, significant and meaningful on the X and the Y. That works for me. If you don't mind, a brief follow-up to the payments links. You mentioned the strong growth month over month. I think when we talk, this is a product that you're leveraging, the Stripe Links capability, I believe. If you just talk a little bit about this, it's a card not present offering. I'm guessing as far as payments growth margins go, maybe this is a little bit higher. And just talk about maybe some of the use cases there, what the merchants are using it for.
spk09: It's still low, but this is a theme that's important for us, which is anything around quoting and invoicing. We see an opportunity to capture GTV that historically would sit outside of our rails on the point of sale side or the e-commerce side because these transactions are settled, call it after the fact, such as on account transactions. And so with these payment links and this new feature that we launched, we're seeing incredible adoption. So from a numbers perspective, -over-year wise, impressive growth, but in relative terms, it's still early days. But this continues to help us monetize the overall GTV ultimately, which as you can see continues to trend in the right direction.
spk07: Absolutely. Great. Thank you for taking both of us.
spk04: Your next question comes from Dominic Ball with Redbird Atlantic. Your line is open.
spk01: Hey, Dax, Asher, Gus, JD. Thanks for the question. Great job on Eva Darba. Looking at organic GTV trends, this quarter was 1% -over-year. I think the larger cohorts were 4%. This is slightly below US retail growth and somewhat in line with nominal consumption in Europe. So I guess my question is, why are we not seeing market share gain from Lightspeed given the high quality of over legacy fears? And why can we expect this re-accelerational GTV? Thank you.
spk08: Hey, Dominic, thanks for the question. So you're right, when we look at total GTV, the -over-year growth was 1%, thanks to our sales were down. But when we think about our flagships, which is really where we are focused as a business, just as a reminder, it's been about a year and a half that we've gone to market exclusively with our flagship products. And on our flagships, the GTV has grown 24%. Same-source sales are in -single-digit growth. And that's really where we're focused on as a business. From an overall GTV perspective, there are certain non-flagship products where we've seen some elevated churn as a result of unified payments launch in Europe. The churn is still lower than what we had forecasted, but nevertheless, there was a slight uptick in churn, and that's impacting the overall GTV. In addition to that, however, we've talked in our prepared remarks about how we plan to grow our ICP locations, verticalized brand marketing, our outbound is ramping up. And we've already implemented these initiatives, and we expect these initiatives will start to bear fruit in the back half of the year. And so you should expect with the software acceleration that we talked about, in the back half of the year, you should also expect an improvement in ICP locations as well.
spk01: That's great. That makes sense. And on that point, given the weakness, shall we say, in some of the European peers and how far behind continental Europe is for integrated payments, hardware, and software, can you give us more color on your plans to grow and try and win more share in Europe?
spk08: So from a win more share in Europe perspective, it's really the same initiatives. We have outbound and feed on the street. JD talked about that being up year over year quite significantly. And outbound works well for us at winning our ICP locations, and that's going very well. We launched it earlier this year, and we're already starting to see the results of that. But when you sign new ICP locations, it takes time for them to get up and running and start showing up in the sophisticated GTV cohorts, which is our ICP. And so really outbound, verticalized marketing, these are some of the different initiatives that we've already implemented, including in Europe and APAC, as well as North American. We should start to see acceleration from that as the quarters go by.
spk00: So thank you.
spk04: Your next question comes from the line of Trevor Williams with Jefferies. Your line has opened.
spk02: Great. Thanks a lot. Yeah, if I could just follow up on the software outlook, I just want to clarify for 2Q, Asha, you're saying growth should be similar to where it was in Q1, plus or minus. And then for the back half, among the three levers that you're talking to, the outbound sales, the account managers pivoting back to upsell, and then pricing, which you guys already spoke to. Can you give us a sense for the relative contribution from each of those? Just anything more on kind of the level of visibility into the back half would be great. Thanks.
spk08: Yeah, hey, Trevor, I'll take that one. So you're absolutely right. As we said in the prepared remarks, the initiatives that you just talked about will bear fruit in the back half of the year. To be honest, when we think about the relative contribution, I would say pretty similar across and coming back pricing and packaging, which JD touched on a little bit earlier, the verticalized brand marketing, that one is more difficult in terms of quantifying the ROI. But what we're expecting in the back half of the year is definitely an acceleration in software. And I would say relative weight between the ands and the pricing initiatives in what's going to
spk02: And it sounds like with more of the focus on outbound, you should see some reacceleration in the higher GTV location growth as we go through the year. I mean, is that, do you think, enough to offset continued turn at the lower end where we should see net GTV growth accelerating from here? Thanks.
spk09: Yes, 100%. I mean, that's always been our game plan. Again, these initiatives are starting to bear fruit already from a leading indicator perspective. And it will start to show up in the overall as we get into the back half and beyond. And again, I think Ash, I touched on that earlier, but if you think about outbound, we lead with our flagship products on outbound. And if you look at our flagship products, GTV being up 24% year over year, as a reminder, our flagship products represent 40% of our overall location. So it's a meaningful base and that base is growing 24% year over year. So this is a promising figure and it should be a good indication for you of what you can expect in the future as that is lapping, call it the legacy product. Great. Thank you guys.
spk04: Our next question comes from the line of Richard Say with National Bank Financial Markets. Your one is open.
spk12: Hi, this is James sitting on for Richard. King of the quarter. I was just wondering if you guys could talk a bit more about the competitive environment on both the retail and the rush outside and then maybe kind of what your win rate is looking like against some of those top competitors in each of the respective verticals. Thanks.
spk06: Yeah, I'll take the product side. This is Dax. As you saw, this Q1 was just an incredible quarter for innovation for ICPs. We're building for the specific needs of our ICPs in their verticals on retail, hospitality, e-com, on the channel, as well as on the B2B side. So I think that having that very, very targeted approach instead of the generalized approach that a lot of our competitors have across multiple spectrums of retail and hospitality, I think we've got that focused approach that really gets to their specific needs and actually helps us to place, displace the legacy players that actually still run the business of many ICPs. So I think from a competitive lens, being focused in our verticals and being focused with functionality that satisfies their needs makes us highly competitive. And on win rates, I'll pass to
spk09: Jay. I mean, if you think of our close rates overall, we don't break it apart across specific competitors. But if you think about overall close rates, we typically are in the 32, 33% range. And what's particularly exciting, I think for me, when I look at our focus on ICPs and our focus on subverticals, that's where you actually see that close rate climb. And in certain subverticals, we see close rate climbing to 45%, even 50%, from demo to close, which is quite exciting to see. So we continue to make progress there, and that's how I did. As the product gets more mature and we pump out new features that really help our customers win, it's making its way through to the funnel. Yeah, just to finish, I think on
spk06: the retail side, really what you want to think about is how deep we go in inventory management and how that inventory management is now connecting into that supplier network strategy. On hospitality, there's incredible innovation happening on tools like TableSide, as well as analytics and insights. And of course, last quarter, we shipped a direct integration with Uber, and we're seeing great uptake on that for saving our restaurant customers' money as well.
spk12: Okay, great. Thanks, and if I could just get one more, obviously you made some meaningful buybacks this quarter. I was just wondering if you could elaborate on what the capital allocation priorities are moving forward.
spk08: Yeah, hey, Tim, I'll take that one. Thanks for the question. As you know, our board authorized a share purchase program for up to 10% of our public float, which is actually the maximum we're allowed. So that represents $140 million, and in terms of what we've executed on in the quarter, we actually repurchased about $2.7 million of our shares. We spent about $40 million. We haven't disclosed what we plan specifically to buy back in the upcoming quarters, but what I can say is we always take a very prudent approach to capital allocation, and we plan to be opportunistic with our NCIB.
spk12: Okay, great. Thank you. I'll pass the line.
spk04: Our next question comes from the line of Josh Baer with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
spk10: Thanks for the question. A couple on locations. There were some comments in the prepared remarks about churn sort of stabilizing or being more in the past, plus the ramping outbound and some other initiatives. Is the right takeaway here that we could see location growth in the key cohorts start to accelerate?
spk09: Yes, I think that's the main message we want to share, particularly in our ICP locations. We've launched a great deal of initiatives across our -to-market motion, whether it's how we attract new customers, how we onboard customers, how we manage and support them. It's starting to show in our leading indicators, and it'll show in the overall numbers. That's how you have to think about it, 100%.
spk10: Got it. Whether it's this quarter's results or your expectations in the next few quarters, how will that growth in locations be broken down between new merchant formations, competitive wins, expansion from existing customers?
spk09: Typically, if you look at new business locations relative to expansion of existing customers that add new locations, it typically breaks apart as 65%, new business, 35% coming from existing customers that open up new locations as they have success with our software and grow and gain ambition to open new locations.
spk10: Just last, just trying to get a sense, the 4% growth in the key cohorts, any sense for how that trended quarter over quarter, and if those moves were dictated by just merchants moving up or down based on their GTV or from a share perspective.
spk09: Thanks. Quarter over quarter, that came up relative to last quarter, which again, that's why from a leading indicator perspective, we're confident that's going to start to show from a -over-year perspective. The other thing I would highlight is, again, when you look at ICP locations, we're disclosing ICP locations across an entire portfolio, all of our products. But as we leaned in earlier from all of our comments, really, if you look at ICP locations on our flagships, that growth is in the plus 20% range as well. So both of those things are encouraging as far as what you can expect for the back half.
spk04: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Todd Copeland with CIBC. Your line is open.
spk13: Good morning, everyone. I wanted to ask about Lightspeed Capital. I think you gave the revenue from that business. Can you talk about how much capital was actually out in the quarter and how you expect that to trend as we go through the year?
spk08: Hey, Todd. Hey, Todd. Thanks for the question. When we think about, if you look in our disclosure documents, you'll see about a $15 million delta on cash out in the quarter from Capital. And I say delta because we have also receipts from merchant cash advances of the past offsetting all of the merchant cash advances that we've given out in the quarter. And that's a net cash out of about $15 million that impacts the quarter. From a revenue perspective, you would have seen we're up 300% from Q1 of last year. And so we're very happy with that business. As I said earlier, however, it is still very nascent. Single digit million-dollar revenue numbers are still pretty nascent. But I think what's important is we're super excited about the prospect. We're super excited about what our customers are saying. They love our product. And the demand is there. And it's really just about us managing risk so that we can still stay in the very low single-digit default rates. So we're excited about the prospects here. And we're very happy with the progress we've made so far.
spk13: Great. Thank you. And then just on OpEx, you know, so OpEx overall growing a little bit. So is the takeaway that that should be the trend as we go through the year and the operating leverage will come from gross margin and top line?
spk08: Yeah, I think, Todd, you can look at it that way. For sure, we expect a lot of growth from top line and gross profit. But as we said in the opening remarks, you know, we have an unwavering focus on prudent spend across the org. We're continuing to renegotiate our significant contracts, such as our cloud contracts. We continue to negotiate contracts with our payment service providers. And so for Lightspeed, it's an ongoing sort of renegotiation or an ongoing look at our cost base. And so you still should continue to see efficiencies from a cost perspective. But I would say, yes, a significant amount is going to come from the top line and the GP growth.
spk13: Great. Thanks, Ms. Hewett-Culler.
spk04: Our next question comes from the line of Suthon Sukumar with Stifle. Your line is open.
spk15: Good morning. I wanted to touch on the nearly strength that you guys are seeing on the software or beside the business. Did you talk about where you did kind of seeing traction in beyond the pricing on the flagships, traction from a module upsell perspective so far?
spk09: Yeah, I mean, so as I think you've heard from us before, first and foremost, if you think of our flagship products, our software ARPU is higher than our legacy products. That's why we've been able to move software ARPU upwards in the past quarters, quarter over quarter. And we keep that going. And that's as a result of software modules that we have on these flagship products and being more significant than our legacy products. On the hospitality side, of course, our insights module is a significant one. And we're very excited with what's coming down the roadmap from a new innovation perspective with KDS, benchmarking trends, you know, precious things like that, are also going to help. And then on the retail side, our inventory management and analytics module continues to be very strong, where we have a strong attach rate. So that's on the new business side. And then, you know, again, if you think about the overall software trend, our account management team is starting to generate a lot of pipeline that will make its way through in expanding goals for our customers. And that's also going to continue to be a meaningful contributor for Lightspeed, as it's always been in the past, right? So this has really been kind of a program that we launched with Unified Pavements for a temporary amount of time. But as we go back to our usual formation, you can expect the usual software growth to come back, as you've been accustomed to.
spk15: Okay, thank you. The next question, I just wanted to touch on as you guys are making a push globally in Europe and beyond, can you speak a little bit about some of the differences or the changes in the competitive intensity as you start to, you know, increase your focus outside North America?
spk09: Yeah, outside North America, actually, it's a very fragmented and region-focused competitive landscape. So in each country where we operate, we see a different ecosystem. And really, that's a driving force of Lightspeed. And I think we're well recognized in international markets as being an dominant player there, because we span across multiple countries across continental Europe and UK. And same goes in APAC, you know, Australia, New Zealand continue to be very strong markets for us. So I wouldn't say that there's a competitor that is as significant as we are in these markets. And it's in each specific country you see a different mix or a specific incumbent.
spk15: Okay, thank you. That's all I
spk04: have. This concludes our Q&A session. I will now hand it back over to Gus Papagiorgio for closing remarks.
spk11: Okay, thanks everyone for joining us today. The management team and I will be around if there's any further questions. We'll speak to everybody on our next conference call in November and look forward to seeing everybody live at our capital market stage. Have a great day, everyone.
spk04: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
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