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spk16: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to MasterCard Incorporated's third quarter 2019 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in the listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance, please press star 0. Thank you. I will now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Warren Nyshaw, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk05: Thank you, Melissa, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our third quarter 2019 earnings call. With me today are Ajay Banga, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Sachin Mehra, our Chief Financial Officer. Following comments from Ajay and Sachin, the operator will announce your opportunity to get into the queue for the Q&A session. It is only then that the queue will open for questions. You can access our earnings release, supplemental performance data, and the slide deck that accompanies this call in the investor relations section of our website, Mastercard.com. Additionally, the release was furnished with the SEC earlier this morning. Our comments today regarding our financial results will be on a non-GAAP currency neutral basis unless otherwise noted. As a reminder, in Q2 we updated our non-GAAP methodology to exclude the impact of gains or losses on our equity investments. We are excluding these items as we believe this will facilitate a better understanding of our operating performance and provide a meaningful comparison of our results between periods. Our non-GAAP measures also exclude the impact of special items, which represent litigation judgments and settlements and certain one-time items. In addition, we present growth rates adjusted for the impact of foreign currency. Both the release and the slide deck include reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to GAAP reported amounts. Finally, as set forth in more detail in our earnings release, I'd like to remind everyone that today's call will include forward-looking statements regarding Mastercard's future performance. Actual performance could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Information about the factors that could affect future performance are summarized at the end of the earnings release in our recent SEC filings. A replay of this call will be posted on our website for 30 days. With that, I will now turn the call over to Ajay Banga.
spk12: Thanks, Warren. Good morning, everybody. So, we draw strong results this quarter. Revenue up 16 percent, EPS up 23 percent versus a year ago on a non-GAAP currency neutral basis. Growth was broad-based and reflects our focus on execution, robust business drivers across the board, and ongoing investment in our business for the long term. On the macroeconomic environment, our view is kind of unchanged. That is that consumer spending remains relatively strong with some moderation versus 2018. We obviously, like everyone else, monitoring ongoing trade negotiations and other economic and geopolitical factors, which are showing signs of weighing on business sentiment in particular. Now, the US economic growth remains stable with low unemployment and solid consumer confidence. Retail sales were pretty consistent with the prior quarter, growing at 3.8 percent versus a year ago, ex-auto, ex-gas, according to our spending pulse estimates. In Europe, we see modest growth overall. Third quarter total retail spending in the UK was solid, according to our spending pulse estimates, while uncertainty around the potential impact of Brexit obviously remains. It's a daily drama being played out on television. In Asia-Pacific, we are monitoring the impact of the US-China trade negotiations, which are negatively affecting business sentiment in the region. We are, however, seeing accommodative monetary policies in several markets there to support growth. In Latin America, the outlook is mixed with countries like Brazil and Colombia showing some positive signs of weakness in Argentina and Mexico. That's the backdrop, and against that, we are driving healthy double-digit volume and transaction growth for MasterCard across most of our markets, with momentum in our co-product areas, in services, and in new payment flows. So let's dive into some recent business highlights. First, co-products. We are driving growth in our co-products with new and renewed customer relationships across credit, debit, prepaid, and commercial. I'm pleased to announce that we have extended our global agreement with Citi for an additional five years through 2029. With this, we will remain Citi's exclusive global partner in Citi-branded consumer credit, debit, and small business. We're also continuing to build upon our strong partnership with Citi's Treasury and Trade Solutions Group, where we are working together to expand the breadth of services provided to Citi's corporate clients, including through the use of MasterCard's Payments Gateway. Together, I think these position us to partner even more closely over the next decade on digital initiatives, on driving consumer credit and debit growth, on B2B, and the development of new payment solutions and joint marketing efforts to continue growing our businesses together. We've also extended our global deal with HSBC for its premier credit portfolio focused on the high net worth segment. That builds on our existing partnership, which includes products like the HSBC Rewards Card that we launched in the UK and the multi-currency debit card launched in Hong Kong last month. The HSBC is another great example of a customer that leverages several MasterCard services, like advisors, MasterCard labs, and loyalty to bring value to its customers and drive growth across its account base. With Bank of America, we have renewed and expanded many of our business lines across consumer and small business credit and debit in the United States, including brand exclusivity on the forward issuance of small business credit and the small business travel card. We will work together towards continued growth in our debit and commercial business, in particular with MasterCard as the primary network on new commercial business outside of the United States. Additionally, Bank of America has committed to being our next MasterCard track B2B hub customer, bringing enhanced account payable capabilities to its clients in the United States. And our block has renewed its agreement to offer MasterCard prepaid cards and additionally will be piloting our APT test and learn capabilities and new data fraud tools. On the US co-brand front, this quarter we won a flip of the BMW consumer credit co-brand portfolio. And we're making further progress in Europe, extending our debit agreement with Intessa Sampalo in Italy, which is committed to converting more than six million Mitro cards to MasterCard debit. We've also expanded our relationship with UniCredit to become its preferred pan-European partner. In other markets, we are building on our momentum with issuers, merchants, and diverse partners like Telcos. You can see that in Latin America where we've executed a regional deal with Scotiabank and will be converting debit cards in several Caribbean markets to MasterCard. In India, where we've won an exclusive consumer credit co-brand with Indigo Airlines, the country's largest airline. And in Africa, where Airtel will exclusively use MasterCard's network for its prepaid virtual exchange. And we've also expanded our relationship with Brex. We've expanded our relationship with Brex. You know them as an innovator in the corporate space. Now we will be their preferred network in the US. We've also inked a 10-year deal with Emirates Islamic Bank to be its exclusive commercial credit network across the UAE. And to our efforts to partner with local switches to increase the transactions that we switch, we are the first international network to receive central bank approval and have begun domestic switching of MasterCard branded debit cards in Indonesia through an agreement with the largest domestic switch, Artajasa. Now coming to digital initiatives, Click2Pay, which is the name for the EMV secure remote commerce standard, is now live in the US, aiming at enabling a faster, more secure checkout experience across web and mobile sites, mobile apps, and connected devices. Rakuten, Movember, Cinemark are the first merchants to launch together with distribution partners such as IDM, FIS, Global Payments, and Stripe. We're planning for a broader market launch in the first half of 2020 with Click2Pay, MasterCard merchant partners will benefit from automatic access to NewDetect, a MasterCard artificial intelligence and machine learning solution that provides an added layer of security when consumers check out using MasterCard on Click2Pay. On the fintech front, we've strengthened existing partnerships, we're winning new deals around the globe by leveraging our technology and relationships in new ways to support these customers who have very specific needs. And a couple of examples include an expanded global partnership with Revolut, which has been a MasterCard issue for several years in Europe and will first launch its cards in the US with MasterCard by the end of the year, followed by other markets across Asia, Pacific, and Latin America. Monzo has selected MasterCard to be its exclusive debit partner for its US launch, and SoFi has also chosen MasterCard for its credit and debit programs. Now additionally, we expanded our Accelerate program to the US, providing local fintechs with support through all stages of growth with easy access to a range of programs, including our digital first solutions, our API and developer programs, and our startup engagement platform, StartPath. And our new payment flows, and as you know, we've developed and acquired a broad set of capabilities, which together with our card rails allow us to differentiate our offerings and address new payment flows and operate as a one-stop shop for our customers, providing choice across multiple rails. In this quarter, we announced our intent to acquire the clearing and instant payment services and e-billing solutions of the next corporate services businesses in the Nordics as we capitalize on the large global real-time payments opportunity. Real-time payments provide a smarter and faster alternative to traditional ACH, cash, and checks. They bring efficiency, much richer data, and a much better user experience. We believe NETS will complement and strengthen our existing capabilities across all three layers of our strategy, which as you recall from Invest Today, will offer infrastructure applications for end users and value-added services on our account payment rails. Now, this builds upon prior real-time payment wins, including in the Philippines, Peru, Saudi Arabia, and our partnership with P27 to deliver real-time and batch payments in the Nordics. We've talked about these in prior earnings calls and on Invest Today. In the meantime, we are progressing our B2B initiatives. I already mentioned Bank of America signing up for the B2B hub in the U.S. First, Hawaiian Bank has also agreed to be a customer. And as we discussed at our Invest Today, we are addressing business payments more comprehensively, both account payable and account receivables, with MasterCard Track Business Payment Service. To solve for the complexities involved with B2B payments, this service will help companies find businesses that they need to pay, operate within a known set of standards and rules, provide full and rich remittance data, and offer a single connection with access to multiple payment types and rails. We showed you one of the use cases that runs on real-time payment rails, payment on delivery. This is the one where drivers who are delivering goods to a physical store can be paid electronically real-time by buyers who can manage all of their invoices and payments more efficiently. We are pleased to announce that PNC is the first bank to pilot this capability with its customers in the U.S. As a multi-rail network, we are also able to offer services to our customers based on -to-account flows. So, for example, we already have customers in the U.K. benefiting from data insights we are able to provide with our broad view through Bocalink. This helps them with anti-money laundering compliance and identification and prevention of other financial crimes. Continuing with the idea of expanding these services outside of the U.K., the Clearinghouse has just announced that it will launch our trade financial crime solution for AML compliance in the U.S. And as previously announced, we will be launching these services in the Philippines as well as part of our real-time payment infrastructure there. Before I close, I want to mention the announcement we made about acquiring Session M, a U.S.-based technology company that provides -to-end loyalty solutions for merchants. We expect this acquisition to strengthen our ability to provide a complete platform-based loyalty solution, starting from data management to campaign execution and program measurement to our merchant customers. Doing all this while delivering a seamless digital experience for the consumers of those merchant customers. Session M has a growing base of leading customers that includes McDonald's, PepsiCo, and Lowes. Among others, we expect to close this acquisition this year. With that, let me turn the call over to Sachin for an update on our financial results and operational metrics. Sachin? Thanks,
spk13: Ajay. Turning to page three, you will see we delivered strong performance this quarter. Here are a few highlights on a currency-neutral basis and excluding both special items related to certain legal and tax matters in 2018, as well as the impact of gains and losses on the company's equity investments. Net revenue grew 16% driven by solid momentum in our core and was slightly ahead of our expectations due to -than-expected services growth. Acquisitions contributed approximately 1 ppt to net revenue growth in the quarter. Total operating expenses increased 16%, which includes a 3 ppt increase related to acquisitions. The remaining 13% was related to our ongoing investment in strategic initiatives and was slightly lower than expected. Operating income grew by 17% and net income was up 20%, reflecting our strong operating performance. Each includes a 1 ppt reduction due to acquisitions. Net income growth was also positively impacted by approximately 2 ppt due to a one-time tax benefit and approximately 1 ppt due to certain non-recurring gains within other income and expenses. EPS grew 23% -over-year to $2.15, which includes 4 cents related to the one-time tax benefit and 1 cent due to the non-recurring items in OIE that I just mentioned. The remaining $2.10 includes a 5 cent contribution from share repurchases and 2 cents of dilution related to our recent acquisitions. During the quarter, we repurchased about $1.8 billion worth of stock and an additional $449 million through October 24, 2019. So now let's turn to page 4, where you can see the operational metrics for the second quarter. Worldwide, gross dollar volume or GDV growth was 14% on a local currency basis, up 1 ppt from last quarter, primarily due to the impact of the differing number of processing days between periods. USGDV grew 12%, approximately 2 ppt from last quarter, with credit and debit growth of 15% and 9% respectively. Outside of the US, volume growth was 16%, up 1 ppt from last quarter. Cross-border volume grew at 17% on a local currency basis, in line with expectations and driven by double-digit growth across most regions. Turning to page 5, switch transactions showed strong growth at 20% globally, reflecting in part the ongoing adoption of contactless payments. We saw healthy double-digit growth in switch transactions across all regions. In addition, card growth was 60%. Globally, there are 2.6 billion MasterCard and Maestro branded cards issued. So now let's turn to page 6 for highlights on a few of the revenue line items, again described on a currency-neutral basis, unless otherwise noted. The 16% net revenue increase was primarily driven by strong transaction and volume growth, as well as particularly strong growth in our services offerings, partially offset by rebates and incentives. As previously mentioned, acquisitions contributed approximately 1 ppt to this growth. Looking quickly at the individual revenue line items. Domestic assessments grew 12%, while worldwide GDV grew 14%. The 2 ppt difference is driven by mix and the impact of an additional processing day on GDV growth in Q3. Cross-border volume fees grew 16%, while cross-border volumes grew 17%. The 1 ppt difference is mainly driven by mix, partially offset by pricing. Transaction processing fees grew 18%, while switch transactions grew 20%. The difference is primarily due to mix. And finally, other revenues were up 34%, including a 4 ppt contribution from acquisitions. The remaining growth was higher than expected and was primarily driven by growth in our data and services and cyber and intelligence solutions. Moving on to page 7, you can see that on a currency-neutral, non-GAAP basis, total operating expenses increased 16%. This includes 3 ppt related to acquisitions. The remaining 13% of growth related to our continued investment in strategic initiatives such as digital enablement, safety and security, geographic expansion, and new payment flows. This was lower than expected due to the timing of certain investment initiatives, which we now expect to occur in the fourth quarter. Turning to slide 8, let's discuss what we've seen through the first three weeks of October, where each of our drivers are broadly consistent with what we saw in Q3. The numbers through October 21st are as follows. Starting with switched volume, we saw global growth of 15% down 1 ppt from Q3. In the US, our switched volume grew 11% down 1 ppt sequentially in part due to lower pin debit growth. Switched volume outside the US grew 19% similar to the third quarter. Globally, switched transaction growth was 20% similar to the third quarter. With respect to cross-border, our volumes grew 16% globally down 1 ppt. So as we close out 2019, our business continues to perform well as we have had another solid quarter featuring several new and renewed deals as Rajay just mentioned, as well as strong services revenue. Consumer spending remains healthy with some moderation versus year ago as expected. In terms of net revenues, on a currency neutral basis excluding acquisitions, we now expect to grow at the high end of the low teens rate for the year, up slightly from prior expectations. Acquisitions will add about a half a ppt to this revenue growth for the year. In addition, due to the stronger US dollar, we now expect FX to be a 3 ppt headwind to revenue for the year. For operating expenses, on a currency neutral basis excluding acquisitions and special items, we continue to expect growth at the high end of high single digits for the year. On the same basis for the fourth quarter, we expect growth in the high single digits range versus year ago. Acquisitions will add about 3 ppt to OPEX growth for the year and 6 ppt to the fourth quarter, primarily related to purchase accounting and integration related costs. In addition, we expect FX will be a tailwind to OPEX of about 2 ppt for the year and 1 ppt for Q4. So now just a quick comment on acquisitions. Overall, our acquisitions are progressing well and our approach towards managing them has not changed. We expect them to break even within 24 months of close, after which the acquisition is included in the base and the respective manager responsible for delivering on their revenue and earnings growth targets within 24 months. As a reminder, Q3 other income and expense included some one-time benefits that are not expected to recur in Q4 and investment income has been trending down due to lower interest rates. In terms of the non-GAAP tax rate for the year, we now expect it to be approximately 18% due to the discrete tax benefits taken year to date. With that, let me turn the call back to Warren to begin the Q&A session.
spk05: Thanks, Achen. Melissa, we're now ready to take questions.
spk16: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. To withdraw your question, press the pound or hash key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Ramsey L. Estal from Barclays. Your line is open.
spk15: Ramsey? Ramsey, are you on mute?
spk05: Melissa, let's go to the next one.
spk16: Your next question comes from the line of Darren Peller from Wolf Research. Your line is open.
spk07: Thanks, guys. Nice trends again. Can you just first start off talking a bit more about the cross-border trends continuing a little bit well? We're hearing a lot of questions macro-wise, but it seems like it's not really affecting you. So first, maybe a little more granularity of what you're actually seeing there. Then quickly on the expense side, again, it beat us. I know you mentioned some one-time items, Achen. What are your thoughts on the growth profile? Is it consistently modeling-wise, high single digit, the right way to think about it?
spk13: Sure, Darren. Let me take that. I'll take the cross-border question first. So what we're seeing from a cross-border standpoint is very much in line with our expectations. We continue to see double-digit growth across most of our regions, and we continue to actually expect mid-teens growth for the full year 2019. As I drill down a little bit more into it, what we're seeing is that US inbound and outbound cross-border volumes are very much in line sequentially. China cross-border growth continues to be also stable in that low double-digits range. Europe continues its strong trends there. So the fintech leadership position that we've got in Europe and particularly in the UK, as well as our commercial travel programs, are two particularly strong contributors that we're seeing here. So all in all, what I tell you from a cross-border trend standpoint, in line with expectations, we continue to believe that we'll deliver mid-teens growth for the full year of 2019, and generally things look pretty good. On your question as it relates to expenses, you're right. In Q3, the expenses did come in lower than our expectations. We now expect that those expenses will be incurred in Q4 as per what I just shared with you. Holistically, what I would tell you is that for operating expenses on a full year basis, we continue to believe that we'll be at the high end of high single digits, very much in line with what we shared with you previously as well.
spk05: Next question, please.
spk16: Your next question comes in line of Tinjin Wong from JP Morgan. Your line is open.
spk14: Hi, good morning. Good results. The services line you mentioned, Tachin, was better than expected. So can you give us a little bit more on what surprised you to the upside and maybe some guidance on the growth from here in the short and mid-term?
spk13: Thank you. Sure, Tinjin. So, yeah, you're right. Services came in stronger than expected. We had good performance across both our cyber and intelligence solutions as well as our data and services solutions. The one thing I'll remind you about services is they tend to be lumpy. Quarter to quarter, depending on the customer deals which we've signed and those which we've executed on, the numbers kind of move around based on how the execution plans are going on that. All in all, the performance in services continues to be strong. We've had a couple of what I would say stronger than expected quarters between Q2 and Q3. But nothing other than that that I would report as being unusual. There's very good receptivity for the capabilities that we're putting out into the market. As you heard Ajay talk in the script, he mentioned about how some of the wins we've had recently have been enabled by what we deliver from a services capability standpoint. And you're seeing all of that manifest itself in the numbers coming through right now.
spk05: Next question, please.
spk16: Your next question comes from the line of Lisa Ellis from Moffitt-Nazanson. Your line is open.
spk03: Hi. Good morning, Ajay and Sachin. I had a question about the investments and more sort of strategic or holistic question around Fast ACH. One topic that doesn't get a lot of attention when it comes to Fast ACH or push payments more broadly is around fraud, which I imagine is quite different from the nature of fraud on the pull payment side like what we're accustomed to with card payments. Can you just talk about as you're building out Vocalink and now NITS, like what's the nature of fraud exactly when it comes to Fast ACH? And how do you get that or how do you differentiate versus other providers? Thank you.
spk12: Hi, Lisa. Your voice came and went a little bit in between, but I got the idea that you're checking on fraud to do with Fast ACH as compared to cards is very different. So my the first thing is to get invoice fraud. That kind of happens as part of the game. You get not just the payment fraud, you get invoicing fraud as well. So it's kind of got two sides to the story in commercial payments. And one of the things that we can do using AI and machine learning is we can help with both aspects of that transaction. The present of that invoice to be accurate, being able to search through the invoices you're getting to be able to find and track invoices that don't fit the pattern or don't fit the trend you should be getting. And as well as on the payment side. And then of course you get the opportunity for managing authorization levels and approval authorities and the like inside a corporation as well with the tools we can build. And then there's the bigger picture, which is the one we talked about, which is around anti money laundering at a level in a market as a whole in vocal links case of the UK because we see so many of the transactions. We see all of the transactions in the UK. I think once we get P27 and Nets done in the Nordics, that will be the same case there as well as in the Philippines and others. We can actually apply these AI tools to find pockets of money mules and nodes of money movement that you cannot easily find otherwise. Of course the holy grail here would be to be able to connect us across markets so we can find anti money laundering trends that also are happening cross border and cross market. Those are harder because as you know ACH has tended to be with a batch or real time has tended to be country by country. And so it's a little more difficult to get the cross border trends as of now.
spk16: Thank you. Next question please. Your next question comes from the line of Harshada Rawat from Bernstein. Your line is open. Hi, good morning. Such a question is
spk02: which transaction is the most excellent and nicely from last quarter and it's probably the strongest we've seen in many quarters.
spk00: Can
spk02: you talk about the driver in terms of increasing contactless penetration as you noted but also great for the connection and changing transaction size. And also how does the contactless rollout in the US impact this in 2020 and beyond?
spk13: Yeah, thanks, Ashita. You're right. You know switch transaction growth continues to be moving along at a healthy pace and you know there are a few factors which are kind of impacting that. Certainly the adoption of contactless payments globally we're seeing good strength in markets in Europe. We're seeing good strength in Canada and in markets like Australia but also in the US, right? And so with the recent launch of contactless payments in the transit systems particularly in the New York area you're starting to see good adoption come through both from an acceptance standpoint but also from a card issuance standpoint. So that's kind of one facet which is contributing to switch transaction growth. And I want to remind everyone here that besides contactless payments the fact that we have market share gains and those market share gains are occurring in markets where we have more switching taking place is also a contributing factor to our switch transaction growth. And then the final piece which I'll mention is as we are working actively to win more switching from what was previously being done at domestic switches, case in point is what Ajay mentioned as it relates to the work we're doing in Indonesia. Those are all contributing factors which are helping with the trajectory from a switch transaction growth standpoint.
spk12: We're now seeing about 56, 56 odd percent of our transactions and that's up from 40 something percent you know five, ten years ago and that's a very conscious effort to see more transactions so we can do more with them in the form of our services business as well. As well as increase our relevance domestically in each country once you start seeing more transactions you're playing a better role in the transaction flow of that market.
spk16: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Ramsey Elisal from Barclays. Your line is open.
spk09: Hi guys, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about B2B payments and the addressable market there has been large for so long it feels like the ecosystem is gaining momentum. You guys have launched track. What has constrained B2B broadly speaking before and what is changing now? What factors are changing now that are allowing you guys to go after it more aggressively?
spk13: Yeah, Ramsey, it's a question. I'll take that one. So here's what I tell you. I say you've got to think about B2B payments in the context of you know things which we as a network have been doing for some time now which is addressing them at the point of sale because there are business to business payments which take place at the point of sale which is our traditional commercial business which has been growing at a healthy clip and has been a decent revenue contributor over many years. This is our typical T&E products, our small business propositions, our B-card products and then there's in the accounts payable space which is the opportunity which hasn't historically been penetrated in a meaningful manner where over the last four or five years starting with our virtual card capabilities we've been making good advances out there. All of that still happens to be on card rails related to payments. The problem statement in B2B actually extends beyond just moving money from point A to point B. It's also about delivering data effectively between the buyer and the seller of goods and services. And as we go down the path of our MasterCard track capabilities you will see that a lot of what we are doing in addition to delivering payments is enabling more seamless transmission of data to allow for better reconciliation of those payments. So it's about creating the right ecosystem to be able to capture the data, transmit the data and deliver it in a manner where the user or the receiver of money can apply that data in a useful manner. So that's what things like track do. So that's kind of one piece you should think about. The other piece comes around the importance of safety and security in B2B payments. And as we've been building new services capabilities in the safety and security space it will be what will help us also expand the B2B universe. The bottom line is the following. This will take some time. There's an ecosystem which has got to be built out. There is capabilities which we have invested in and continue to invest in which will roll out. But the point really is it's not just about the payment. It's much more than the payment when you think about B2B payments. And then there's real-time payments which comes into play. Everything I've spoken about right now relates to cards and data. But as we go into the real-time payments universe you will see things like payment and delivery. It's a B2B solution. We just announced that we are piloting that with PNC. That is about leveraging our multi-rail strategy to participate in those accounts payables well beyond cards. Next question.
spk16: Your next question comes to the line of Brett Huff from Stevens. Your line is open.
spk06: Good morning and congrats on the nice results. Can you guys embellish a little bit on the MasterCard track? I thought it was interesting you said that there's an ecosystem that needed to be built out. I think you were referring specifically to that. This is a product that we've been particularly focused on. Can you tell us kind of where we are there in terms of signing people up and when do we kind of reach the tipping point for when that growth, we can see that growth really start to take off?
spk12: I think this is not an easy answer that will be done in your X month or Y year. This is a build. I think in the consumer payment space the role the network plays is to create that ecosystem. You know, start with a directory. Basically merchants and consumers are two sides of a directory. We need such a directory in B2B payments connecting millions of buyers and millions of sellers. MasterCard track has got a directory of 200 plus million businesses on it. There's still more to be added. It's been a fragmented system across many countries with many different players. Bringing it together and making it less fragmented is a job that will take years before it actually gets to fruition in its full form. But then you can start building with what you've got and inside that we're building what I said the payment optimization engine on multi-rails. So, you know, the buyers and seller can decide whether they want credit or they want to pay in advance and they want to factor the bill or they want to pay later. So all that comes out of that optimization engine and for buyers and sellers to understand that and to begin to incorporate that. Remember we're not talking big companies here. Those guys are very sophisticated in what they do. This is the big mass of middle market and small businesses that actually need help on this front. And then there's the whole issue of what Sachin talked about, the information and the richness of the data that enables reconciliation of payments to be much more seamless. That's fairly large tasks and they aren't as easy as connecting points and switching people on. You've got to find your way through all these aspects. So we're working our way through it. So when you see us launching a B2B hub in the US and adding more banks and other companies into it, those are buyers' agents and sellers' agents. You can see us getting scale by adding more people there. Similarly in Australia, we launched a B2B hub with WhatWorthMYOB and there's more coming into that. That's all part of getting scale. So as I said, we're doing a lot of things in this space. You should think of this as a two, three, four year effort to get to scale and size. And that's how we're investing in it.
spk06: Great. Thank you.
spk16: Your next question comes to the line of Chris Donaut from Sandler O'Neill. Your line is open.
spk01: Hi, good morning. I had a question about Click2Payers secure remote commerce. I'm just wondering as you move from the soft launch that's going on now to the more serious launch in OneCube 2020, can we expect a big uplift in marketing spend or will this be sort of within the context of your typical marketing efforts?
spk12: Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll play that a little bit by ear as we normally do with an event like this. I think you'll see us do some spending on marketing because we're keen to get this established. But we're going to start the marketing in a bigger way when there's enough distribution of the button in enough merchants so that the marketing dollar is spent well amortized over many merchants. So I don't know that it'll be a OneCube event. You might see it later in the year. It just depends on the pace of installation of this button through our distribution partners. You know, you heard me talk about FIS and RDN and global payments and Stripe and others like that. And of course, through all the efforts we as an industry make directly as well. Next
spk09: question.
spk16: Your next question comes in line of Ashwin Shrivekar from Citi. Your line is open.
spk17: Hi, I'm Ajay Hasechan. So the question is, did you shed more color on the healthcare unit announcement from yesterday that primarily formalization of your capabilities you already had? Because I thought you were already doing some of the analytics and billing work there. And more broadly, clearly healthcare is an important vertical. But should we expect more of a verticalized push? I noticed here in Vegas you guys have a major presence not only at Money2020 but also at the digital health event.
spk12: What happens in Vegas should stay in Vegas. So you're making it on a public call for God's sake. Okay. So yes, healthcare. So yes, we've participated in healthcare through flexible spending account and healthcare saving account and health reimbursement arrangement and all those three letter acronyms that we've got in the US around healthcare payments for consumers. Those are cards. We do those. And you will see us continuing our effort to gain share in that space because that's kind of a lower hanging fruit in the healthcare space to take away one of the pain points in the healthcare payment and reimbursement system. But it's only one. There are plenty more. And the real issue we're trying to do with this announcement is to show you that we're beginning work on those other pain points. We've got a few clients already who have worked with us over the last six months to one year on some of these topics. They include providers like hospital systems. They include payers like individual sort of the insurance companies. What we're trying to do is to systematize that and make that a business opportunity for our company and take our analytics as well as our payment capability and apply it across this very obvious pain point industry in the United States. For the time being, it's US centric. So to give you examples, we're talking about getting into what we call a patient payment assurance, which is really predictive analytics to enable the hospital, the provider, the doctor to get more effective billing strategies that are tailored to the kind of patient they're getting. So you look at segment patients, you know, basing on payment burden on individual payment behaviors, and you develop new billing strategies customized to that patient's unique profile. A second one is to use AI and machine learning to detect suspicious claims. And if you go to the insurance companies, they will tell you that fighting suspicious claims is one of their most important things. That's why you as a consumer very often get these detailed inquiries from your insurer, which gets you to be unhappy. All they're trying to do is to fight the issue of suspicious claims. Again, we can have new providers reduce onboarding risk. We can monitor provider behavior and risk levels. We can manage daily transaction fraud risk in real time. That's kind of what we do in the payments business. That's why our cyber and intelligence business is growing well. I think we can apply the same knowledge and capability to this marketplace. And thirdly, we're focusing on data security. There the idea is to use biometrics, which allow patients to be identified better and of course behavioral analytics to protect health information. So it's through mobile access being authenticated better to HSA accounts and call centers and patient portals or to detect cyber threats in real time so we can lower operational investigative costs. Those are examples. So think of us as taking our current capability in payments and data, adapting it to the need of a specific sort of vertical called healthcare, both for payers and for providers, and then finding a way to get that into distribution. That's the real task. You know, to get it out there with enough providers and with enough payers. That's the work we're undertaking now. That's probably what you heard in Vegas.
spk05: Thanks, Ajay. Next question, please.
spk16: Your next question comes from the line of Don Fendetti from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
spk04: So Ajay, interesting comments on the city renewal around treasury and trade solutions. I just want to get your sense on how B2B is really impacting negotiations with issuers on renewals. And then, you know, it kind of makes me think out loud that if you look at digital and B2B, the integration is becoming deeper. And things like switches are much more unlikely going forward. And then will we see any type of impact to the economics, whether it's rebates, et cetera, or will it not really be visible to us what's going on behind the scenes on B2B?
spk12: Yeah, so I mean, I wouldn't conclude that the city deal renewing the consumer aspect till 2029, including small business. I wouldn't conclude that that deal had economics from the B2B aspect of our relationship built into it. That's not what I said. What I said was we renewed the city consumer deal till 2029, exclusive for city branded cards, both consumer debit and small business. We're continuing our partnership with the trade services business on things like the MasterCard payments gateway, and frankly, a bunch of other things that I haven't even talked about as part of our B2B payments, including what we're going to do with real-time payments and cross-border possibilities with the company. Your question is deeper. Your question is that does this help us go to institutions with a more holistic discussion? I think, Don, as you recall from your days even in other institutions, it depends a little bit how well stitched together their org structure is. In a number of the larger banks around the world, the institutional client group, the corporate banking business, tends to be isolated from the consumer group. In others, they don't. And so in some institutions, they start coming together in portions of it, like in acquiring or in a payment gateway. In others, they're quite distinct. Commercial cards tend to be in one space, corporate T&E cards tend to be in one space, while consumer tends to be in the other. That is kind of how these institutions are run. And so there is an opportunity over time for us to stitch together our improving B2B capabilities with our consumer capabilities, certainly with institutions that look at it holistically, but over time even with others as they come together. And clearly at the right level of management, we do that all the time. So if you talk to the CEO or the CFO or somebody up at that level, Mike Cobat was in our office the other day. Obviously, we're discussing all aspects of Citi because he cares deeply about the whole of Citi's P&M. And that's how it should be. So I wouldn't conclude right now that this has made so much progress that you'll be able to get insights that are different in them. It's kind of like two efforts going along in the company.
spk00: Okay, thank you. Your point
spk12: about will it make switching harder? I don't know. We'll see. My general belief is that the more you do with an institution, the more your value is visible to that institution. And that's kind of how we've approached it. And if you have value that you bring, whether it's a merchant or a bank or a telco or a government, they will tend to be more thoughtful on their transactions with you.
spk04: Thank
spk16: you. Your next question comes to the line of Bob Napoli from William Blair. Your line is open.
spk08: Thank you and good morning. I just want to dig a little deeper into the services business and the organic growth of that business. And then what – and I know you mentioned, Ajay, that data and cyber in particular were strong this quarter. And then what you're looking to add to that additionally through the M&A side?
spk12: Bob, the organic growth is great. I mean, I'll give you an anecdotal example. But Applied Predictive Technologies, APT, the company that helped us understand what it can do on test and learn through their patented processes, which we've now put into almost all our data and services business, we actually did revenue bookings in them in one month, a few months ago, which is equal to what we did in the year we bought them. That gives you a sense of the multiplier factor that a good business with outstanding people can get through the distribution that we can give them and the link to our client base that we can provide. That's the – you know, we bought them and then we've grown them organically. So there's that going on. The same is true of new data, what we now call new detects. So, you know, they get bought that's inorganic, then they get merged into us, and then it becomes part of our organic base two years later, and then it's basically being put through our distribution system to get access to much larger scale. And then we keep adding capabilities into that business through our own team of AI and machine learning and data scientist people who can help us build out the repertoire that that company is willing and capable of offering. Where do you see us doing more of this? Well, you know, as I've said sometimes, we are very keen to continue to expand in everything to do with cybersecurity and predictive modeling of that space. I continue to believe that digital identity, cybersecurity, identifying fraudulent transactions, the capacity to identify people correctly, companies correctly, you heard me say that on the B2B payment answer a little while ago, that's going to be very important. Similarly, loyalty and rewards, and we've added scale to that and we continue to build that out as part of our managed services business. I continue to believe that to be an area where you will see us focusing. You will see us focusing on anything that can help us with AI and data analytics as we go by. These are to me all important spaces in services as distinct from what we might want to do in real time payments and B2B. I think that's the kind of space you'll see us focusing on.
spk08: Thank you very much.
spk16: Your next question comes to the line of James Friedman from First Kohana. Your line is open.
spk11: Hi. Thank you for taking my question. Sachin, in a prior answer, I thought that the inference was that there are some services pull through from B2B. I want to make sure that that was right. You mentioned safety and security and you mentioned MasterCard Track. Is that true that that's a place that where we would see B2B being populated? I just am going to try it. You reported 34% FX neutral in other revenue. Is that a good proxy for services or is that too simple? Thank you.
spk13: I'll take the second party question first and I think I need a clarification on your first question. On the second part, other revenues does comprise services related revenues, but services revenues also show up in our transaction processing fees. I think you just got to be careful about assuming that there is a -to-one correlation between other revenues and our services revenue. Other revenues has other stuff going on in there as well. That's point one. On the 34% growth rate, about four points of that, like I said, came from acquisitions. Then the remaining 30% came from a whole bunch of activity primarily driven by the strong growth we've seen in our services capabilities, both on data and services as well as on our cyber and intelligence solutions. Jamie, I want to make sure I got the first question right. What exactly were you asking? I wasn't sure I quite understood that.
spk11: Yeah, I was trying to figure out is, just simply put, is services showing up in the B2B ecosystem? Maybe I was exaggerating, but it seemed like in the answer to one of your prior questions, as you had suggested, there might be some pull through there.
spk12: It's like AML and the money laundering product. It's not a B2B solution, and that's a service in terms of data analytics.
spk13: Again, if you go back to what we've articulated previously as part of our strategy, which is we will participate at the infrastructure level, at the application level, and the services level. If you think about services, that is something we will apply not only to card rails, we will also apply to our non-card rails. The question really is where we started, which is mostly our services capabilities have been focused on servicing our customers on the card side. As we keep building out our B2B capabilities on the non-card side, that is very much going to be a focus area of where we go from a services capability standpoint.
spk11: Thank you. Next question, please.
spk16: Your next question comes to the line of Dave Conning from Barrett. Your line is open.
spk10: Yes. Hey, guys. This is just kind of a high-level simplistic question, but last year, revenue growth, kind of organic constant currency revenue growth, was actually the weakest in Q4. You have quite an easy comp in Q4 this year. Are there any call-outs to think of last year that might or might not make this Q4-19 actually be the fastest growth given the easy comp on last year?
spk13: Dave, as I said in my opening remarks, no more real color I am going to give you as it relates to specifics on revenue growth for Q4. We did mention that we believe our net revenue growth for the full year will now come in at the high end of the low teens rate, which is up slightly to what we had previously shared. And look, it is business as usual, right? There are lots of puts and takes which take place as it relates to how our revenues are growing. I think the bottom line which I would leave you with is the following. The driver growth continues to remain strong, and that is across the board. It is true for GDB, it is true for our cross-border, it is true for switch transactions, it is true for our other revenue line items. That is point number one. Point number two is we did talk to you a couple of weeks ago, about a month ago at our Investor Community Day, and while I am not updating our three-year outlook at this point in time, we did mention to you at that point in time that we still expect our three-year outlook to be as what we mentioned at our Investor Day. So look, I mean, the bottom line I would tell you is the following. We are running the business to make sure we are driving value both in the short, medium, and long term, and that is what we will continue to do on a going forward basis.
spk10: Great. Thank you.
spk04: Time for one final question.
spk16: Your next question is from the line of Craig Maurer from Autonomous. Your line is open.
spk15: Good morning. Thanks. Two quick questions. First, on rebates and incentives, is there anything we should be thinking about, either related to the city renewal or the cadence of renewals next year that will influence the percentage of gross one way or another? And secondly, with regards to the acquisition of nets, can you talk about how the omnibilling technology will accelerate what you are already doing with Transactus and BillPay Exchange?
spk13: Thanks. Sure, Craig. So I will take the question you have got as it relates to the renewal and stuff like that. Look, I mean, I think you have got to keep in mind that the renewals which you hear about every quarter are not happening primarily within the quarter. In other words, they might close in a particular quarter, but they are typically in the works for a while. So when we share with you our outlook, which is what we have shared with you both on this call for 2019 as well as at Investor Day for our three-year objectives, they contemplate this level of renewal to take place. So I would not call anything special out as it relates to unusual activity from a rebates and incentives standpoint, all contemplated in what we shared with you in these various two forums. On your other question as it relates to the omnibilling solution for nets, it is a very solid capability. It is one where we see the potential for tremendous amounts of synergies both in terms of how we expand that capability globally as well as how we bring some of the capabilities that we will acquire at the time we close the transaction to our BillPay Exchange, which we have announced in the US. So again, I take you back to the use case of the application layer associated with real-time payments, in this instance being bill payments, sizable opportunity, sizable opportunity on a global basis. We believe we are well positioned both with our BillPay Exchange capability as well as with the closing of the nets transaction with what they bring from an omnibilling standpoint to be able to take that and take that and mass across the globe.
spk15: Thank you.
spk12: Ajay, any final comments? Yes, I was thinking of giving them to Tim because he was dying for a question, but I'll do it. So, thank you for all your questions. I'd like to wrap up with a few closing thoughts. We had another solid quarter driven by robust business drivers and broad-based growth. We have extended significant relationships with critical partners such as Citi, Bank of America, and HSBC. We're doing this while continuing to invest in our business for the long term, including our multi-rail strategy and our wide range of services. With that, thank you for your continued support of the company and thank you for joining us today.
spk16: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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