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MediaAlpha, Inc.
10/30/2024
Thank you for standing by. My name is Cass and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Media Alpha Inc. Third Quarter 2024 earnings call. All lines have been placed in need to prevent any background noise. After the speakers remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. I would now like to turn the call over to Alex Leloya. Please go ahead.
Thanks, Kath. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. My name is Patrick and I am the CEO of Steve Yee and CFO of Pat Thompson. On today's call, we will make forward-looking statements relating to our business and outlook for future financial results, including our financial guidance for the fourth quarter of 2024. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Please refer to our SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q for a fuller explanation of those risks and uncertainties and the limits applicable to forward-looking statements. All the forward-looking statements we make on this call reflect our assumptions and beliefs as of today and we disclaim any obligation to update such statements except as required by law. Today's discussion will include non-GAP financial measures, which are not a substitute for GAP results. Reconciliation of these non-GAP financial measures to the corresponding GAP measures can be found in our press release and shareholder letter issued today, which are available on the Investor Relations section of our website. I will now turn the call over to Steve.
Thanks, Alex. Hi, everyone. Thank you for joining us. Our performance in the third quarter set new high watermarks across all of our key metrics. Our transaction value and adjusted EBITDA both reached record levels and exceeded the high end of our guidance. Before turning the call over to our CFO, Pat Thompson, I'd like to remind you of a few highlights of our business model and review some key drivers of our third quarter results. We operate the largest insurance customer acquisition media marketplace with strong long-term partnerships not easily reputable by competitors. Our media marketplace enables leading insurance carriers to reach millions of high-intent insurance shoppers through our partnerships with hundreds of insurance websites and apps. The reach and transparency of our marketplace is unmatched, allowing carriers to scale their -to-consumer marketing investments rapidly and efficiently. This marketplace model is a key differentiator and competitive advantage that has established us as a growth partner of choice among carriers and brokers and underpins our ongoing success. For the third quarter, our results were primarily driven by momentum in our property and casualty vertical as auto insurance underwriting profitability continued to improve. On the supply side, a highlight in the quarter was executing a multi-year extension with Insurify, one of our largest and longest-standing partners. We believe this agreement reflects our market leadership position and we continue to evaluate strategic opportunities to further expand and deepen our supply partnerships. On the demand side, we see plenty of headroom for further market share and revenue growth as additional auto insurance carriers reach target profitability, return to growth mode, and increase their investments in online direct customer acquisition. In health insurance, we're entering our seasonally strongest quarter driven by annual Medicare and ACA enrollment periods. Notwithstanding some of the transitory headwinds in Medicare, we believe the investments we've made in our partner network position us well over the long term. Finally, I'd like to provide some context on the upcoming TCPA -to-one consent rules affecting our broader industry that will take effect in January of 2025. These rules require sellers to obtain specific consent from consumers before contacting them using an automated dialing system or pre-recorded or artificial voice system. While this change is expected to meaningfully limit the volume of shared leads sold, we see this as an extremely positive development for consumers and our industry as a whole. It's important to keep in mind that these shared leads make up only 5 to 6% of our total transaction value. And because our marketplace is heavily focused on clicks rather than leads, we do not expect these changes to have a significant impact on our business. With that, I'll turn the call over to Pat for a more detailed review of our third quarter performance and fourth quarter guidance.
Thanks, Steve. Our third quarter results exceeded the high end of our guidance ranges across all metrics, including record transaction value and adjusted EBITDA of $451.8 million and $26.3 million respectively. P&C transaction value was up 52% sequentially, above our expectations of 40 to 45%, driven by increased -over-year pricing and higher volumes as participation in our marketplaces continued to scale. Transaction value in our health vertical was up 9% -over-year, in line with our expectations. As expected, our take rates were somewhat lower as our business continued to mix to P&C, which is more private exchange based, and some of our largest supply partners benefited from volume-based pricing. Overhead was in line with expectations. The net impact of all this was that adjusted EBITDA increased by $22.7 million, representing over 600% growth -over-year. Looking forward to Q4, we expect P&C transaction value levels to be flat to slightly up as compared to Q3, reflecting stronger performance than normal seasonal trends. In health, where Q4 is our seasonally strongest quarter due to the timing of both the Medicare and ACA enrollment periods, we expect transaction value growth to be down at single digits -over-year due to the well-documented headwinds in the Medicare payer space. Moving to our consolidated financial guidance, we expect Q4 transaction value to be between million and $495 million, a -over-year increase of 192% at the midpoint. We expect revenue to be between $275 million and $295 million, a -over-year increase of 143% at the midpoint. We expect adjusted EBITDA to be between $29.5 and $32.5 million, a -over-year increase of 144% at the midpoint. We expect overhead to increase sequentially by approximately $500,000 to $1 million as we continue to selectively add headcount to support and drive growth. Lastly, we expect our Q4 adjusted EBITDA add back for legal costs, including costs associated with the FTC inquiry, to be similar to Q3. Turning to the balance sheet, we've made solid progress in deleveraging, ending the quarter with a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of less than two times. To capitalize on market opportunities and grow our market share, we have been strategically investing in our business and working capital. We continue to expect high conversion rates of adjusted EBITDA into cash over time due to the operating efficiencies in our business, including minimal capital expenditures and low working capital needs. With that, operator, we are ready for the first question.
At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star 1 on your telephone keypad. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Michael Graham with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.
Thank you, and congrats on the great momentum. I wanted to ask a couple questions. The first was just on the middle-ending comment that you gave in the shareholder letter. I just wonder if you could kind of put a little more context around that. Does that mean middle-endings, like some of the carriers have not come back yet, or is it more like broadly spread to a lot of carriers and they're just still kind of getting ramped up? Then I just wanted to ask if you could make a comment on the hurricanes in the Southeast and whether you're seeing any impact from those.
Hey, Michael. Yes. Thanks for that question. With the middle-endings comment, the context for that was really, I think, twofold. They're similar to what we talked about last time, which is one is we've had great recovery in the market in 2024, but it continues to be primarily driven by a small number of very large carriers. We're very sophisticated when it comes to direct consumer advertising. When we say from that perspective that the recovery, we feel like, is still in the middle-endings, it's about the broader participation of other top carriers. Certainly, there's been progress within the industry since from a quarter ago. There has been incremental increases in budget from a larger number of carriers. I would say that when you look at the list of the top 10 to 15 carriers, still several large carriers jump out as carriers who are either still on the sidelines or otherwise somewhere below where we would expect them to be based on their market share and historical spend levels. In addition to that, I think a smaller factor is really the geography that we mentioned. We still have states like California, New York, New Jersey, very large states which in aggregate make up about 20% of the US market where there's been incremental progress in terms of carriers getting rate increases approved, but those three states, again, in particular, really aren't where they normally would be in terms of overall market share, media pricing, and overall volume. I think those two perspectives are really what color the middle-endings comment from our perspective. With regard to the hurricane, obviously it's a big event for the insurance industry. It's a notable one. But for us, it's really these types of things tend to be almost non-events from our marketplace perspective. It's for the primary reason being that we're very heavily skewed to auto insurance. What tends to happen during these periods is that advertisers will turn off their campaigns or pause their campaigns for a few days leading up to the event and then almost immediately turn back on. Even though obviously it was a human tragedy, it was a notable insurance event for our PNC auto insurance media marketplace. It was relatively not a best for us. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Michael.
Your next question comes from the line of Denny Pfeiffer with JP Morgan. Your line is open.
Thanks for the question. For the first, can you maybe parse out some of the different scenarios on how the health business would be impacted as it relates to ACA in your under 65 business if we have a Republican versus a Democratic administration? I have a follow-up. Thanks.
Yeah, sure. Again, Patrick might have something to add to this, but I think really at a high level, we've grown our health insurance business pretty steadily, I believe, over the last nine to ten years. That's been through both Democratic and Republican administrations. Regardless of the outcome of the upcoming election, I think we remain confident in our ability to grow that business over the long term. I think, again, at a very high level, I think that our Medicare Advantage business may be at the margins, would benefit from a Republican administration. It's a product that has brought bipartisan support, but again, Republicans have generally, though the party has generally been more in favor of Medicare Advantage. But then the countervailing factor there is that for the under 65 business, again, we tend to have more activity there under Democratic administrations because they put more emphasis on marketing and promoting under 65 plans or ACA plans. Overall, I would say that that doesn't change the high level assessment that, again, will grow through both Democratic and Republican administrations. The marginal impacts that one or the other could have, I think, tend to wash each other out.
Gotcha. That's helpful. Then for my second question, in regards to the carriers that we're early in turning spend back on, can you give any color into whether their budgets continue to grow or have they started to level off and kind of back to more normalized rates of spend? Thanks.
I think, as you've seen from our results and our forecast, I mean, we still continue to see pretty strong momentum from those carriers. I think that pricing wise, I think we can foresee some leveling off in terms of pricing, even as additional carriers come back into the fold and provide for more competitive environments. I'll point you, though, in terms of something that goes to the sustainability of the pricing and the media investments being made to the investor presentation that Progressive made in August of this year that really highlighted the fact that as a carrier who's been very disciplined about understanding the expected lifetime value of the policies that are selling, their target customer acquisition costs that they're incurring through paid media channels like ours remain at or below the threshold that they've set. That certainly matched what we're hearing from them directly and from other carriers who have started to invest heavily into our space, that the levels of investment that we're seeing as well as the media price levels are sustainable. Thank
you. Your next question comes from the line of Tommy McJoynt with KBW. Your line is open. Mr. McJoynt, your line is open. Please ask your question. I will proceed to the next question. Mike Zuremski with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. Mike Zuremski, please ask your question. Your line is open. I will proceed to the next questioner. Ben Hendricks with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Great. Hey, thanks, guys. Just wanted to get some more color on the expectations for lower transaction value year over year in this coming AEP. I know there's been some pullback and some pressure in Medicare Advantage, but we're expecting an active season. I'm wondering if you're seeing just more spend go internal towards internal channels and carriers or if we're seeing just more shopping behavior rather than actual transaction. If there's any color you can provide there, it would be great. Thank you.
Yeah, and Ben, thanks for the question. This is Pat. I'll tackle this one. So, you know, I'd say for the health vertical overall, we're guiding to transaction value being down mid-single digits year over year. We said that we believe Medicare will be weaker in the under 65 in the upcoming quarter. And, you know, I think the challenges that the Medicare payers are seeing have been kind of pretty well documented as, you know, they're seeing higher service utilization. They're seeing star ratings go down. And they're, you know, I think different carriers are in different spots, but we've seen a number of carriers that have tightened their belts in terms of interest in spending heavily on marketing. You know, I think the counter to that is there have been a number of planned design changes that have happened that have spurred increased consumer shopping. And, you know, think that, you know, some of the payers are maybe tightening their belts. I think there could be, you know, some folks in the broker community that are, you know, that are maybe, you know, benefiting from the change. You know, we're also only 15 days into AEP, so it's a little bit hard to say. But, you know, the long story short, I think, you know, pricing trends are weak. Volume trends are pretty good. And the net of that we think is going to be down slightly. But over a three- to five-year time horizon, I think we're as bullish now as we've ever been about the opportunity for us in Medicare Advantage.
Thanks for the color.
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