5/2/2024

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Operator
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Modiv Industrial Inc. First Quarter 24 Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star, followed by zero. On today's call, management will provide prepared remarks, and then we will open up the call for your questions. To ask a question, analysts may press star, then one. on their touch-tone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the key, and to withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to John Rainey, Chief Operating Officer and General Counsel. Please go ahead, sir.

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John Rainey
Chief Operating Officer and General Counsel

Thank you, Operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us for Motive Industrial's first quarter 2024. earnings call. We issued our earnings release before market opened this morning, and it's available on our website at motive.com. I'm here today with Aaron Halfacre, Chief Executive Officer, and Ray Puccini, Chief Financial Officer. On today's call, management will provide prepared remarks, and then we'll open up the call for your questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's comments will include forward-looking statements under the Federal Securities Laws. Forward-looking statements are identified by words such as will be, intend, believe, expect, anticipate, or other comparable words and phrases. Statements that are not historical facts, such as statements about our expected acquisitions or dispositions, potential strategic partner discussions, are also forward-looking statements. Our actual financial condition and the results of operations may vary materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Discussion of the factors that could cause our results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements are contained in our SEC filings, including our reports on Form 10-K and 10-Q. With that said, I would like to turn the call over to Aaron Haffiger. Aaron?

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, John. Hello, everyone. I hope you're doing well. First quarter, right around the corner from fourth quarter results. You know, in the tradition I've done the last couple of quarters, I've put it all out there in the earnings release for the most part. So, instead of me jabbing away, first let's go to Ray, and then I'll catch up at the end. Ray?

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Ray Puccini
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Aaron. I'll begin with an overview of our first quarter operating results. Rental income for the first quarter was $11.9 million, compared with $10.3 million in the prior year period. This 15.4% increase reflects the impact of 12 industrial manufacturing property acquisitions during 2023, partially offset by 14 non-core property dispositions in August 2023 and two additional non-core dispositions during the first two months of 2024. First quarter adjusted funds from operations or AFFO was 3.3 million up 6.6% when compared with 3.1 million in the year ago quarter. The increase in AFFO primarily reflects the increase in rental income and a decrease in property expenses, which were partially offset by increases in straight-line rents and interest expense. On a per-share basis, AFFO was 29 cents per diluted share for this quarter, which reflects an increase of 1 million shares in the weighted average number of fully diluted common shares outstanding, compared to 30 cents per diluted share in the year-ago quarter. The increase in fully diluted shares is attributable to performance shares earned by management during 2023 and shares issued during April 2023 in connection with a property acquisition through an upgrade transaction. Property expenses decreased $723,000 compared to the year-ago quarter, primarily reflecting the disposition of properties with modified gross leases and double net leases in August 2023. Excluding the impact of swap valuations, cash interest expense increased by approximately $1.3 million, reflecting greater borrowings outstanding during 2024, given that during the year-ago quarter, we only had an average of $157 million outstanding on our credit facility. While GNA increased by $91,000 compared to the year-ago quarter, the increase was entirely due to non-recurring costs for our transfer agent and legal fees related to the distribution of GIPR's common stock to our stockholders in January. We expect general and administrative expenses to be lower in future quarters since the first quarter of each year includes higher costs for audit and tax professionals, along with higher Social Security taxes for employees who reach the Social Security maximum tax during the first quarter. Now turning to our portfolio. Following the January and February dispositions of two non-core assets, our 42 property portfolio has an attractive weighted average lease term of 13.9 years, and approximately 34% of our tenants or their parent companies have an investment grade credit rating from a recognized credit rating agency of BBB minus or better. Annualized base rent for our 42 properties totals $39.9 million, as of March 31, 2024, with 38 industrial properties representing 75% of ABR, three office properties representing 14% of ABR, and one retail property representing 11% of ABR. With respect to our balance sheet and liquidity, as of March 31, 2024, total cash and cash equivalents was $18.4 million. and we had $281 million of debt outstanding. Our debt consists of $31 million of mortgages on two properties and a $250 million term loan outstanding on our $400 million credit facility. And we do not have any debt maturities until January of 2027. Based on interest rate swap agreements that we entered into during 2022, 100% of our indebtedness as of March 31st, 2024 held a fixed interest rate with a weighted average interest rate of 4.52%, based on our leverage ratio of 48% at quarter end. We're exploring various alternatives to extend or restructure the December 31st, 2024 cancellation options on our existing swaps. As previously announced, our Board of Directors declared a cash dividend for common share of approximately 9.5 cents for the months of April, May, in June 2024, representing an annualized dividend rate of $1.15 per share of common stock. This represents a yield of 7.72% based on the $14.90 closing price of our common stock as of May 1st, 2024. I'll now turn the call back over to Aaron.

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Ray.

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

You know, I'd say pretty straightforward quarter. I think if we look at a lot of REITs coming out, very similar theme, a lot of volatility, doesn't make sense to be actively acquiring too much. Those who have distressed assets seem to be disposing of them. For us, it was mainly a quarter of patients, sort of like a duck on the surface of the water. It may look calm, but furiously sort of kicking the legs. the bulk of that time being spent on the aforementioned strategic partner conversations. These take a lot of time, a lot of effort, a lot of thinking, but primarily a lot of patience. I think we feel constructive on the company. It's probably the best we've ever been in a position. We feel like we have no gun to our head. We don't have to do anything. We'd love to capital markets to open back up, but everyone on this call would love the same. It's been a long trough. Our entire public existence has been eating nuts and berries and never having a steak. So we're keeping the faith and doing quite fine. It's a crazy time now for people to make decisions. Was it three weeks ago we had 300 missiles coming over into the Middle East? We've got campus riots. We've got... I think it was December. At the end of December, the market was pricing six cuts in. We've had a lot of volatility. And I think the stability that we've shown is worth something. I think we're still massively undervalued. That's why I have a big, big personal position. I'm very comfortable with that and about closing that gap. The NAB that we came out with, look, some people may think have disdain for appraisals, but they're a legitimate part of the real estate space. We chose two very high profile legitimate appraisers to go out and appraise our portfolio of assets as well as our fixed rate mortgages. And we use that information to come up with an NAV. I think if you look at the history of our NAV, you could find a lot of them in our S11 that we did two years ago, but obviously we came out with an NAV last year. I think I think directionally they show the right trend, right? Unlike, say, B-REIT or S-REIT out there in the non-trade space, you know, our valuations have gone down from last year. So that passes a smell test of my perspective because we have had wider cap rates and higher rates, so you should see that in your appraisals. But I think it just clearly shows that, you know, our lack of float, the fact that the vast majority of our legacy investors Do not even pay attention to the share price. Do not even remotely consider trading it. If you look at a percentage of our shares outstanding, you know, is what trades, ours is like a tenth of what a normal read is. So we have very thin volume, and we understand that we have to address that. We've had many conversations with people of the institutional space who really like what we're doing, like our theme, but there's no way right now for them to find a way to get in And so we just have to be patient. You know, we don't have our ATM open right now. We're not looking at that. We did try it out, you know, in prior quarter just to try to grease the skids. But we're just being patient, operating with what we have, you know, mining our P's and Q's, saving every penny that we can to get something done. And we're optimistic that we can get something done. We just don't know when it will happen. You know, this environment, again, to say this like for the fifth time, requires patience. But that said, optimism is high, focus is strong, and ready for some Q&A. Operator?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star and one on your telephone keypad. We will wait for a moment while we poll for questions. Our first question is from the line of Robert Stevenson with Janie Montgomery Scott. Please go ahead.

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Robert Stevenson
Analyst, Janney Montgomery Scott

Good morning, guys. Aaron, where are you on the Calera asset in St. Paul? Is that looking like a sale or a release at this point?

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

It's a great question. I think we've been actively exploring both of those areas. And candidly, the reason why I don't have enough progress on that yet is we still haven't got it fully rejected from Calera. We've been in contact with them. We're waiting for them. We presume that they will fully reject it, but they haven't yet. And until such time that they do, it kind of hog ties us on the margin. That said, we've been proactive speaking to brokers in that market, WeHouse. developing strategies we've spoken to other growers as well who know the property and expressed interest a little an interesting fact is you know US Foods has a significant presence there and in the original context they were going to be providing microgreens to US Foods and so that has spurred a lot of what seems to be some interest that said you know it's a That's a very unique space in terms of vertical growers. The building itself is a great box. They over-improved it. I think upwards of $15 million of capital improvements they put into this property. There's also equipment that we had purchased from them originally that's in there. In addition to looking at cell lease as a vertical grower, we're also contemplating the concept of sell lease as an empty box and then that part would require us to to um sell off the equipment so we're actively exploring all those things uh we're a bit of a holding pattern we're waiting for them to reject um and then after that we'll probably be able to get a little bit more momentum are they currently paying you no so so they're so they haven't gotten out and they haven't paid they're not in it they're not in it so they're not okay but they're It's just stuck up in the bankruptcy proceedings. Okay.

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Robert Stevenson
Analyst, Janney Montgomery Scott

And then I believe the window just opened for the tenant purchase option on the state of California asset in Rancho Cordova. What's the likely play there at this point? Do you have a sense whether or not they're going to take it?

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. We reached out to them about last week. They said they're They have a meeting scheduled to discuss it. So we probably won't hear back if they're going to start their option process for a little bit more time, call it this quarter, second quarter probably. Our view is a couple of things on our calculus, which may or may not be their calculus, candidly, but from ours, when they originally did it, California had a big budget surplus. That's not the case now. the purchase price isn't going to move the needle in terms of their budget, but we think about those things in terms of there's a political element in terms of when do they do this. Our view is when we talked to them, I guess it was probably late last year, and they indicated that they were likely to start the process in May. We called them again, and he said it's on the docket for the discussion. They have to go through their real estate department, which has very finite resources in terms of people who can do acquisitions and things like that. It goes to their acquisitions department, and then they come up with a valuation mechanism, which we have one embedded. And basically there's a price in the lease that if it's plus or minus 10% of that, they can just move forward. If it's outside of that price range, then they have to make, you know, we have a back and forth process between us if we wanted to agree to this different price. I don't see any issues with that mechanism. From there, it then goes to the various state departments to get approval. And then once it's approved, it's put on the budget. And then the budget would not get approved until next year. So they've clearly told us the process would take at least 12 to 14 months whenever they did initiate it. Our view is if they tell us they're going to initiate it, we'll be patient. If they say that they're not sure they're going to initiate it because they have a couple of year window to do it, then we're probably just going to take it to market. You know, because it does have, you know, it's a AAA rated credit or at least a AA plus rated credit. And, you know, it's got term. And, and so no sense in holding it, particularly if we get rid of the Costco property, because then we're, you know, then we're down to the last bits. But, so I guess we'll, I assume we'll have a better update for the next on second quarter earnings.

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Robert Stevenson
Analyst, Janney Montgomery Scott

Okay. Yeah. And then last one for me, how significant are the acquisition opportunities at similar rates to the Tampa acquisition if you had access to more decently priced capital at this point? I mean, is it a lull like we're seeing in other asset classes, or is there a lot of opportunity and it's just a matter of the capital for you guys?

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

So... I think there is a lull. There's less being shown than, you know, there was a year ago. But there is, like, I saw a great, it was a great opportunity, probably going to be an ACAP, but it was $100 million. It was a multi-site portfolio, not anything that we're talking about, just a straight up brand new sale lease back. So, you know, you could definitely put money to work. I think the logic for us, when you think about industrial manufacturing sell-leaseback, which is really what you're seeing, you're not seeing hardly any existing leased properties be put on the market right now. Occasionally, but not much. And they're more like HVAC guys and things like that, which to me, it's not necessarily that strategic. But on the strategic sell-leasebacks, the genesis to decide that you want to move this off balance sheet and take money is a lengthy one, right? Assuming that we haven't had much in the way of private equity transactions that take out the small and middle market companies in the last 18 months because it doesn't paper for them, they're not a catalyst because typically when a PE shop gets it, that's one of the first things they'll do. And if you have an owner-operator who decides they want to free it up It's a lengthy process to say, hey, wait a minute, this is my goose that lays the golden egg. Why would I sell this? And it's a concept, believe it or not, that's pretty foreign for some people, even in the day and age where we've had sell these specs for generations. So that journey probably takes upwards of at least 12 months, probably 24 months for them to make the decision. And so when we were acquiring assets last year, those were decisions made in 21 or 22. And, you know, the environment was different. And so they had kind of already the momentum was going was committed. When you have deals coming out now, you know, I think it's suggestive of they have a real need for the capital. In the case of the photonics one we did, they are doing an actual – they're doing an international merger. And so they found this is a better source of capital than trying to get bank lending so they could get scale. And so that's why it worked, right? If it's somewhere where someone's wanting to do this and they just want to cash it out and they're trying to do a dividend out or do something like that, then those are red flags because – to us in this environment. So we expect a lull in the, in the volume, but that said, you know, and now they're all eights. No, but north of seven and a half, I think you could, I, you know, I could, I could, you know, I could replicate the size of the company probably if I had the capital.

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Robert Stevenson
Analyst, Janney Montgomery Scott

Okay. That's helpful. I appreciate the time this morning, guys.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Brian Maher with B Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

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Brian Maher
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

Thanks. My first question was just answered in kind of how deep the acquisition pipeline kind of could be. But, you know, when we look at your release this morning and you talk about, you know, the three ships scenario, can you assign any probability as to how you think it plays out? I mean, I know you discussed it, you know, kind of, the yin and the yang of it, but where is your head thinking that this ends up?

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

Well, attorneys won't let me give you any probabilities, so I won't. You know, I think the four scenarios that are laid out are kind of, like, I don't have any, neither do I or do these other two participants have any forced deadlines. So I think that's the right environment to be in. is that we're all, on our own regards, capable of weathering the storm. And so there's no need to do something that is detrimental to one party and the beneficial to the other. I think if that were the case, then it would be far easier to do a deal. So I'd say to start off with that. So I think... The dialogues with these parties has been, you know, didn't just start in, you know, the last few months. We know these portfolios quite well. We have had on and off dialogues with these portfolios since we've been public. I think the dialogue that we've had in the last, call it four months or so, three months or so, have been really specifically about, okay, yeah, let's roll up our sleeves. I can tell you that the parties have shared information about their portfolios. We have a working model that allows us to see the impact to the combined enterprise. We have actively spoken about cap rates and share prices and governance mechanics. and so I can tell you that there has been some legal dollars spent. So I would say this isn't a wet finger in the wind, but if you can tell me the probability of geopolitical risk and economic risk and the election cycle, then I could probably dial it in better for you. But it's just a really – It's, you know, I literally had a CEO of another REIT text me yesterday and goes, this must be what quicksand feels like. Because it's just been, you know, it's been a unique market. That said, we're all very constructive. I think the portfolios are very complimentary. There's one portfolio is, you know, a little bit lumpier, but it's got some real great sort of center of excellence assets in it. The other portfolio is smaller in size, but similar to us has more diversification. I think from an industry component, they like, they make sense. I think from, you know, from a, they're both candidly, you know, they're both shorter waltz, their existing portfolios, but they have good leases. So, you know, look, we're going to keep working at this and, you know, Candidly, speaking to one of the attorneys, probably this quarter, what we said here is about all we're going to be able to say until next quarter. And in fact, we're not actually going to go to Navy just because we're in the throes of discussions and we don't want to be openly talking about it much. But again, I can't give you a probability just because the market is just, I mean, in the last 60 days, our share price has been north of 16, in the 14s, in the 15s. It's a fucking yo-yo. So we'll keep at it, and hopefully we'll come up with something.

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Brian Maher
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

All right. That's helpful. But, you know, buried in that commentary, I don't think I heard anything regarding kind of the size of these portfolios. I mean, can you give us some aspect? Is it 50? Is it 100? Is it 500? I mean, what zip code are we talking about the size of these two entities?

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

That's a very great question. Can't give you an answer.

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

All right. Thanks. Appreciate it, Aaron.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.

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Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners

Thank you. Good morning. I wanted to follow up on the partnership discussion. As you think about looking at different partnerships, do you anticipate the quality of the assets in the partnership to be comparable to what you would have in your Holy One portfolio?

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

I'd say that

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

I would say that the quality is very comparable. You know, if you think about manufacturing, you know, sometimes you have rated credits, sometimes you don't. I'd say I think that the thing is I wouldn't, I can't really discern one being, you know, lower quality. Well, if it was, I wouldn't be talking to them, candidly. I'd say they're all comparable quality. You know, some might be stronger tenants, but with shorter leases. Some might be stronger tenants with, you know, that are lumpier, bigger assets. Some might be, you know, perfectly fine tenants, but, you know, more diversification. I would say that the best thing that I see from it, if it were to come about in either one direction or the three-way direction, is that they're very complementary. I think there's, to me, I could sleep well at night on any combination. I think, you know, I think they think the same. You know, I think the fact that we're having this conversation is really related to the fact that people are, besides the political rhetoric, people understand that manufacturing is a viable asset class. I don't think we, you know, no one until here before really had done it in a purely dedicated space. There are certainly people who have been buyers of it for a long time but have not gone pure play, at least not as of yet. And so I think they see, you know, motive is a natural end state because these portfolios, they would eventually be selling them anyway. You know, it's just a matter of time. And so I think there's a complementary fit there. And I think, you know, it is conducive to getting to that more scale and index inclusion and institutional ownership, which would create more flow, which allow more people to actually participate in this strategy and presumably with less equity volatility as a result. And so I think there's a lot of different benefits, but I think the portfolios are very complimentary. They're very it seems very strategic, and I think it would open the door to others. I mean, There was a fourth battleship that we've, you know, talked to at length. And just given where they're at in their cap stack, they just couldn't be a participant at this time. And so, you know, that's a someday maybe. You know, if we're successful here, you know, God willing, and we've gotten more size, then, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if we wouldn't have a conversation here. with that other portfolio, that fourth battleship down the road. So there is opportunities out there, uniquely enough, about manufacturing most of the manufacturing portfolios, with the exception of what Storr owns and what, you know, what O now owns from what it acquired from whatever they were. I can't even think of their name. In spirit, excuse me. Besides those, most of the portfolios are in private hands. And so having a public currency longer term, I think, is something to be looked at strategically.

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Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners

Okay. And you talk about exchange of your equity possible for this portfolio. So are we talking like common stock or like OP units?

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

You know, I look at those ubiquitously, candidly. One provides tax protection, but, you know, these are institutional players. So generally speaking, and I would, you know, I'm not ruling it out, but generally speaking, they're less tax sensitive by the nature of their money. But to be clear, we're talking about sort of that common equity element.

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

Okay. All right. Thank you. That's all I had. Thanks so much.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please press star and 1. As there are no further questions, I would now hand the conference over to Aaron Halfacre for his closing comments. Aaron?

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Aaron Halfacre
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, operator. Thanks, everyone. You know, trying to be candid as best we can, trying to get you guys, you know, real dialed in on what we're doing. We think that, you know, I think a lot of environments or operators are uncomfortable with transparency. If you don't like what you hear, you're going to make a decision either way. If you, you know, I think we're delivering results. We're being transparent so you can try the best you can, understand where we're headed, what we're thinking. You know, I'm very confident that, you know, we have the right team to get things done. I have no ability to predict the markets. And so like you, we're rolling with the punches. But, you know, I think we're on to something in this company and look forward to talking to you again at the next earnings release. Thanks, everyone.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. The conference of Motive Industrial has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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