Montrose Environmental Group, Inc.

Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call

8/7/2024

spk02: Good day and welcome to the Montrose Environmental Group, Inc. Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal conference specialists for pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. And now I'd like to turn the conference over to Adrienne Griffin, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Treasury. Please go ahead.
spk00: Thank you, Operator. Welcome to our second quarter 2024 earnings call. Joining me on the call are Vijay Mantrapagada, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Alex Dix, our Chief Financial Officer. During our prepared remarks today, we will refer to our earnings presentation, which is available on the Investors section of our website. Our earnings release is also available on the website. Moving to slide two, I would like to remind everyone that on today's call, we will include forward-looking statements that are subject to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ in a material way due to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that should be considered in evaluating our operating performance and financial outlook. We refer you to our recent SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31st, 2023, which identify the principal risks and uncertainties that could affect any forward-looking statements as well as future performance. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. On today's call, we will discuss or provide certain non-GAAP financial measures, including consolidated adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, and adjusted net income per share. We provide these non-GAAP results for informational purposes, and they should not be considered in isolation from the most directly comparable GAAP measures. Please see the appendix to the earnings presentation or our earnings release for a discussion of why we believe these non-GAAP measures are useful to investors, certain limitations of using these measures, and a reconciliation to their most directly comparable GAAP measure. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Vijay, beginning on slide four.
spk07: Thank you, and welcome to all of you joining us today. I wanted to start by introducing Adrian Griffin, who is our new head of investor relations, She brings stellar depth of IR experience to Montrose, and as we continue to increase our stakeholder engagement, we look forward to introducing her to all of you in the very near future. Welcome, Adrienne, and thank you. I will open my remarks with an update on our business, operations, and strategy. Alan will then provide the financial highlights, and following our prepared remarks, we will then hold a Q&A session. While today's call will highlight second quarter and year-to-date performance, It's important to reiterate that our business is best assessed on an annual basis. Demand for environmental solutions does not consistently follow quarterly patterns, and we manage our operations using annual perspectives. We are pleased to report our second quarter and first half results, which included our highest ever revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Our solid operational performance and ability to capitalize on demand momentum across our business continues to be driven by our dedicated colleagues around the world. And I would like to thank them for their substantial contributions to our collective success. Our stellar quarterly results included 9% revenue growth and 10% adjusted EBITDA growth. Organic revenue growth across most of our businesses contributed to our record performance. Our organic growth trajectory continues to be positively impacted by further IP development and cross-selling success. We expect continued strong organic growth in the back half of the year, and we reaffirm our full year 2024 organic growth expectation of 10% to 12%. Our focus on strengthening and optimizing margins was evident in our quarterly results, as we reported a 20 basis point increase in consolidated adjusted EBITDA margins compared to the prior year period. Cross-selling success contributed to margin expansion in all three segments, and this is despite the impact of Matrix. And Matrix remains a bright spot and is now realizing low double-digit adjusted EBITDA margins in the quarter. While we are pleased with the significant profitability improvement our team has achieved since acquiring Matrix in June of last year, we remain focused on further optimization. Turning now to slide seven, since our prior update in May and following our equity capital raise, we have maintained our cadence of highly strategic M&A. In June of this year, we acquired Paragon, an exceptional addition to our Canadian footprint and an expansion of our environmental consulting and engineering services in Canada. In July, we acquired Spirit Environmental, a leader in air permitting and modeling, which also enables geographic expansion across the U.S. Mountain and Gulf states. Though both transactions are relatively small, they are very strategically additive to Montrose, and we are thrilled to welcome these new colleagues to Montrose. Our M&A pipeline remains robust and includes numerous opportunities for the coming 12 to 18 months. Regarding secular tailwinds, we remain as confident as ever in Montrose's ability to capitalize on the broad catalysts impacting our end markets. As our customers react to anticipated regulatory complexity following recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions, and as our customers work to comply with state and local regulatory requirements and respond to stakeholder encouragement, demand for Montrose's suite of innovative environmental services, technology, and solutions grows in tandem. We remain very positive on the long-term upside from regulatory drivers and complexity, which I will discuss in detail shortly. I will now discuss our second quarter performance by segment, the details of which are found on slides 13 through 15. Within our assessment, permitting, and response segment, during the second quarter, we saw robust demand for our advisory services as well as growing cross-selling success across multiple business lines. The increase in segment margin was primarily driven by solid organic growth. This segment also includes our environmental emergency response business, and revenue associated with these emergency events does not follow a regular pattern, and emergency response revenue was down substantially in the second quarter because of a response that occurred last year and did not recur this year. Within the measurement and analysis segment, We are seeing the benefits of continued state, local, and federal regulations. Our comparative market outperformance has been primarily organic, driven by our lab services, PFAS, and air testing services. Continued project wins, such as our support of the Department of Defense, are driving success in this segment. Margins during the quarter were higher year over year, mainly due to revenue growth and operating leverage. Within our remediation and reuse segment, revenue growth benefited from acquisitions in the prior year period, including matrix, and strong organic revenue growth in our soil and groundwater remediation business, which more than offset an expected decline in our water treatment and renewable services, which we expect will be back on a solid growth trajectory later this year and into 2025 and beyond. Margins during the quarter increased versus prior year given strong operational improvement in Matrix, acquisitions, and organic revenue growth in our soil and groundwater remediation business. We are thrilled to see increasing revenues and margins from Matrix, validating our integrated strategy, and further substantiating the acquisition component of our method of creating value for our shareholders. Next, I will discuss a few recent regulatory developments and the foundation for our long-term growth outlook. As we discussed on a recent webcast available on our website, the US Supreme Court recently issued several sweeping opinions. In aggregate, they appear to limit the authority of federal agencies, including the US EPA, to interpret ambiguous federal statutory provisions. This may open the door to litigation by potentially affected parties who seek to challenge prior interpretations of agency rules within a six-year statute of limitations. These rulings have introduced quite a bit of uncertainty into our marketplace. Long-term, we believe uncertainty will be lower because shifts in political parties overseeing the EPA will have less of an impact on the statutorily authorized activities of the US EPA. For Montrose, our short-term and long-term business outlook remains unchanged. In fact, we anticipate incremental opportunities arising from the increased regulatory complexity these rulings are likely to introduce. Uncertainty and complexity tend to drive demand for our advisory and consulting services. As a result of these rulings, we also expect state and local regulatory bodies who retain significant enforcement authority to continue and potentially increase their efforts to enforce existing regulations. This shift benefits Montrose given our strong capabilities to serve our clients across multiple state and local jurisdictions. State-level regulations often require more localized expertise, which is a strength of ours and a key differentiator in our business model. In terms of client sentiment, major clients across a diverse cross-section of our end markets with whom we spoke have indicated that They are staying the course in terms of their existing environmental compliance programs and corporate sustainability goals. And they do not foresee any immediate changes in demand for Montrose's services. This sentiment reinforces our confidence in our reiterated business outlook. While the regulatory landscape is evolving, Montrose is well-positioned to navigate these changes and capitalize on the opportunities presented. our business remains anchored on stable, longstanding regulations that we believe are unlikely to change as a result of this shift in legal doctrine. As it relates to other regulatory updates, we've seen continued momentum from the U.S. EPA with regards to PFAS. Building on the EPA's final national primary drinking water regulation for six PFAS compounds issued in April, the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act, also known as CERCLA, Hazardous substance designation for PFOA and PFOS was finalized in May and became effective on July 8, 2024. This CERCLA regulation triggers the requirement for immediate reporting of releases of one pound or more of either substance. Additionally, CERCLA liability for both chemicals is now in effect. As we mentioned last quarter, we expect this regulatory update to enhance our access to the approximately $200 billion addressable market, for Montrose based on the number of impacted facilities we could engage. While still in its early stages, we anticipate demand for PFAS will ramp up over time. Importantly, we do not anticipate the recent Supreme Court rulings to impact this major milestone in PFAS remediation. Regarding methane emissions, in June, the EPA opened applications for $850 million in federal funding for projects that will help monitor, measure, quantify, and reduce methane emissions from the oil and gas sector. This funding is designed to help mitigate legacy air pollution, create energy jobs in disadvantaged communities, reduce waste and inefficiencies, and realize near-term emissions reductions. This presents longer-term tailwinds for our emissions measuring, monitoring, and assessment solutions as clients evaluate their environmental impacts. The Supreme Court and Congress in the United States have already weighed in on methane emissions regulations, so we don't expect a change to our growth thesis in energy and markets. With regards to the political landscape and the upcoming U.S. presidential election, We remain confident in Montrose's ability to perform well regardless of the outcome. As we've demonstrated on slide eight, our strong performance existed during the Biden, Trump, and Obama administrations. This was by design. Our business model was designed to be resilient and largely insulated from the political swings at the federal level, which we've demonstrated repeatedly. We expect this trend to hold true going forward, given our limited exposure to anyone in market and the higher relative influence of state and local environmental regulations on our customer activity. While our business mix may shift from period to period, we remain as well-positioned as ever to benefit from the evolving landscape. In summary, I'm extremely proud of our team's performance this quarter to close out a strong first half of 2024. The continued organic growth in our business reflects the resilience of our business model and ramping demand for our environmental solutions as our customers increasingly choose Montrose's portfolio of differentiated solutions to work through complex environmental situations. Looking to the remainder of the year, we are as confident as ever given the evolving regulatory landscape and the growing environmental concerns in our end markets. We are reiterating our full year revenue guidance of $690 million to $740 million and consolidated adjusted EBITDA guidance of $95 million to $100 million. We expect to see significant opportunities for both organic growth and further strategic acquisitions in the coming quarters. With that, I'll hand it over to Alan. Thank you. Thanks, Vijay.
spk06: We delivered another quarter of strong financial performance as we continue to execute according to plan. Organic growth remained robust, given increased traction with our cross-selling initiatives and continued pricing success. We were also pleased to drive positive contributions from our recently acquired businesses. Our strategic investments better position us to capitalize on demand, and our growth drivers remain intact. Moving to our revenue performance on slide 10. Our second quarter revenues increased to a record $173.3 million, or an 8.9% increase compared to the prior year quarter. First-off revenues of $328.7 million increased 13.1% versus the prior year period. The primary drivers of growth in both periods were strong organic revenue growth in our AP&R and M&A segments and the contributions of acquisitions, partially offset by lower environmental emergency response and water treatment revenues. and the shift away from lower margin revenue in our renewable services business completed in the latter part of last year. Looking at our consolidated adjusted EBITDA performance on slide 11. In the second quarter, we reported a record 23.3 million or 13.5% of revenue. This compares favorably to consolidated adjusted EBITDA of 21.2 million or 13.3% of revenue in the prior year quarter. First half 2024 consolidated adjusted EBITDA was 40.2 million or 12.2% of revenue compared to consolidated adjusted EBITDA of 37.8 million or 13% of revenue. The increase in consolidated adjusted EBITDA was primarily due to higher revenues driven by organic growth and acquisitions. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of revenues decreased due to matrix. which despite continued improvement in EBITDA margins since acquisition has not yet achieved our mid-teens EBITDA margin target. Moving to a review of adjusted net income on slide 12. We reported diluted adjusted net income per share of 20 cents in the second quarter of 2024 compared to 29 cents in the prior year quarter. For the first half of this year, we reported diluted adjusted net income per share of 37 cents compared to 47 cents in the prior year period. The change in both periods was mainly driven by an increase in interest and tax expenses, partially offset by improved results from operations, lower dividends on our Series A2 preferred stock, and a higher weighted average outstanding share count. As a reminder, during the third quarter of 2023, we changed our tax methodology for adjusted net income as reflected in the adjusted net income reconciliation table in the appendix for the current and prior periods. Please note, our adjusted net income for diluted share attributable to common stockholders is calculated using adjusted net income attributable to stockholders divided by fully diluted shares. We believe this net income methodology is the most helpful net income metric to Montrose and for common equity investors. Turning to our business segments beginning on slide 13. I'll focus my comments on the second quarter. In our assessment, permitting and response segment, second quarter revenue was 53.4 million compared to 61.4 million in the prior year quarter. As solid organic growth in our advisory business line was more than offset by a 14.7 million decline in environmental emergency response revenues. AP&R's segment adjusted EBITDA was $12.6 million or 23.6% of revenue, up from 22.5% in the prior year, reflecting favorable business mix. Long-term margins in the segment are expected to be 20% to 25%. In our measurement and analysis segment, revenue for the quarter increased 9.5% to $54.8 million, primarily attributable to organic growth, M&A adjusted EBITDA increased 14.6% to 12.4 million, or 22.5% of revenue, a 90 basis point margin improvement over the prior year quarter due to revenue growth and operating leverage. We reiterate our expectation for long-term annual margins in this segment to be between 18% and 20%. In our remediation and reuse segment, Second quarter revenues increased 36.6% to 65.1 million, primarily due to the acquisition of Matrix, partially offset by the shift in our renewable service business to focus on higher margin revenue projects, as well as expected lower water treatment revenues. Segment adjusted EBITDA margin improved due to acquisitions and improved Matrix margins. The improvement in matrix is a result of our margin optimization efforts, and this business remains on track to achieve a mid-teen adjusted EBITDA margin by the end of 2024 on an annualized run rate basis. We continue to expect organic growth and margin expansion in this segment for the full year. Moving to a review of our cash flow and capital structure on slide 16. Year-to-date cash flow used in operating activities was $21.1 million compared to cash generated of $24.5 million in the prior year. Lower cash flow from operations was driven primarily by an increase in receivables related to the integration of Matrix earlier this year and several large new projects. Cash flow from operating activities is expected to improve over the balance of the year as the non-seasonal increase in accounts receivable is temporary. There are no collection issues or credit problems with these large, well-established customers. Operating cash flow in the back half of the current year is expected to be up significantly versus the second half of 2023. In April, we completed a follow-on equity offering, raising net proceeds of approximately $121.8 million. providing further flexibility to continue M&A and organic investments. We have already deployed $27 million of this to work via the acquisitions of Paragon and Spirit. At the end of the quarter, we had $188.3 million of liquidity, including $16.9 million of cash on hand and $171.4 million of availability on our credit facility. Our leverage ratio as of June 30, 2024 was 2.4 times and well within our long-term operating leverage target of below 3.5 times. Moving to our reiterated full-year outlook on slide 18. Based on the performance in the first half and our conviction in the second half, we reiterate our outlook for full-year 2024 revenues to be in the range of 690 to 740 million. and consolidated adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of 95 to 100 million. Our 2024 outlook remains anchored on our expectation for low double-digit organic revenue growth and margin expansion over the prior year, and includes an expectation for full-year emergency response revenues to be in the 50 to 70 million range. As we highlighted last quarter, We expect to generate roughly 60% of our full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA in the back half of the year, primarily due to the timing of recent acquisitions, matrix seasonality, and project timing. As compared to the prior year period, we expect third quarter 2024 revenue growth of approximately 10%, along with adjusted EBITDA margin improvement of approximately 100 bits. Third and fourth quarter 2024 JASTA Deep Adha is expected to be similar. Overall, we remain as optimistic as ever in the strength of our business and our ability to capitalize on the many growth avenues we see before us. Our second quarter results reflect strong execution at all levels of our business and the successes we are seeing with our cross-selling and margin-enhancing initiatives. With the recent additions to our service portfolio from our acquisitions, Montrose is well positioned to meet the growing needs for our differentiated environmental solutions. Thank you all for joining us today and for your continued interest in Montrose. We look forward to the opportunities we see ahead and updating you on our progress next quarter. Operator, we are ready to open the lines to questions.
spk02: Yes, thank you. And as mentioned, we will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speaker phone, please pick up your hands up before pressing the keys. If any time your question has been addressed and you'd like to withdraw it, please press star then two. This time we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. And today's first question comes from Tim Mulrooney with William Blair.
spk05: Alan, good morning. Hey, Tim, how are you? Doing well, thank you. Just to start out, level set here, you guys highlighted robust organic growth in the second quarter several times in your prepared remarks. I don't think I caught what that was.
spk07: Yeah, Tim, we don't break out our quarterly organic, as you know, but we wanted to indicate that we are well on our way to achieving our annual organic performance. Guidance of 10 to 12%. We're feeling like we're in a very good spot, given the cadence of the business, both in the first and second quarters and what we can see for Q3 and Q4.
spk05: Okay. Well, that's helpful. I mean, it must have been strong then, so that's helpful to cover it. Shifting gears, Vijay, I know that water treatment business was lower in the second quarter. Is that something we should expect for the back half of 2024 as well? I'm just curious based on, you know, what you see in your backlog today, you know, or with customer conversations, like when you might expect that to begin to program on a year-over-year basis.
spk07: Yeah, let me step back and give you some of the themes, Tim, and then I'll talk specifically about the first half, second half, and year-over-year. So our – and this is something we alluded to in earlier conversations. The cadence of our discussions related to treatment – has picked up materially. And as we think about the adoption curve extending through the latter part of this year and into the next several years, that curve certainly has lengthened, but the opportunity set seems much bigger than it was for Montrose. And so we're pretty excited about what the long-term outlook looks like for us. PFAS water treatment specifically for us is up in the second half of the year versus the first half of this year. So we're already expecting some growth in that business through the back half of this year, and that's in the guidance numbers that we've provided to you. And then as we think about our broader treatment technology business, of which the water treatment is a part of them, the water treatment and renewables part, that business is up nicely year on year as well. And so we're kind of looking at a nice set of secular tailwinds in that business, but the timing of that is not really quarterly for us. We're thinking about that more in the medium to long term, if that makes sense. And then just to reiterate, PFAS for us is not just water treatment. It's in our advisory and our testing business. And a lot of the strong organic growth you're seeing in those two segments is driven in significant part because of our prominence in the PFAS advisory and testing markets.
spk05: Yeah, Vijay, if I could just sneak one more in. Sorry. But on that point, you know, as more and more water systems begin implementing PFAS testing programs over the next few years, I'm just curious if you've already seen a step up in demand there yet in your labs business or if it's just too early to say that there's been an impact there from the – No, we have.
spk07: We have. We have. If you look at our testing segment, Tim, that growth is – Yep. all organic. We haven't, I don't believe, completed any acquisitions in that segment, and PFAS is a big part of that.
spk05: Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions.
spk07: Thanks, Tim.
spk02: Thank you. And the next question comes from Jim Rashudi with Needham & Company.
spk04: Hi, good morning. How are you guys? Two questions. First, and I know it's still very early in light of the Supreme Court ruling. But what I'm wondering is, as you think about 25, and possibly even 26, and think about M&A in a post Chevron world, are you thinking about it any differently? And maybe even before we talk about the M&A point, are you considering any changes in the way you allocate resources across the business lines in light of the ruling?
spk07: In light of Chevron, Jim, no. And the reason is, for us, the bottom line is we think there's actually going to be more opportunity than risk as a result of Chevron. The regulations that impact Montrose seem pretty clearly within the statutory authority of the EPA. And as we think about the regs across our segments, most of them have been decades old. And even as we look at the recent regs around PFAS and methane, a lot of that has been written in via Congressional Act. And so we are not – we don't expect and we don't anticipate much flux in the business due to Chevron. There may be challenges for other reasons, as there always has been in the past, and we've seen this for many, many years. around the technicalities of specific regulations, but that's part of the course for us. And so, no, our actions there are likely to change. The other dynamic, Jim, that we always have been looking at and perhaps would look at a little bit more is that Chevron likely shifts a little bit more influence to state and local regulators, and that's where we tend to shine. because of our ability to service the local markets and with local expertise. And so we will continue to and anticipate more activity in select markets where we see a lot of opportunity to continue to provide services for our clients. And then the last part of this, Jim, and I think you've known this, I mean, for several years now, we've expanded our footprint largely at the behest of our clients internationally and internationally. And we have about 20% of Montrose's revenue is now ex-U.S., which is not really impacted by Chevron at all. So as you kind of look at the diversity of our business, which has been in play now for years, our path is largely unchanged. And in many ways, we think long-term Chevron actually introduces more certainty because if there's major changes in the executive branch in terms of political philosophy from one to the other, there's not going to be as much change, because if it's under statutory mandate, the agencies can't just decide what they're going to do. So, for all those reasons, we're staying the course, and we're feeling as good as ever.
spk04: Thank you for that. A follow-up question, just actually a separate topic. I wanted to ask about gross margins, which I know you don't guide to, but the fact is, you know, these are the highest gross margins that I can recall. And so I wonder if you could talk perhaps to the improvement in the quarter and any color in perhaps how we should be thinking about gross margins going forward.
spk06: Yeah, gross margins, Jim, are closely tied to our operating EBITDA margin, right? So the drivers of operating EBITDA margin, which you've seen increase year over year, And if you do the math, the back half margins will be even stronger of an increase year over year. Some of that is business mix, but it also reflects the impact of some of the pricing success that we've had. It reflects the operating leverage that we're seeing in some of our businesses, like our labs. And then as we've built scalable support functions we're increasingly able to relieve our operating teams of a lot of the back office support that they were providing. So if you look at our SG&A, you strip out acquisitions, SG&A within operations is flat in dollar terms. And so we're getting the benefit of operating leverage in that report as well. So all of those drivers are increasing gross margins. and they should continue to improve over time as similar to our EBITDA margins.
spk03: Thank you. I'll jump back in the queue. Thanks. Thank you.
spk02: Thank you. The next question comes from Aditya Shrestha with Stifel.
spk03: Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. And congratulations on the good quarter. Thank you. How are you? Good. Good. Thanks. So just going back to sort of your guidance, you reaffirmed it, but just looking back, you spent $27 million on Paragon Spirits since you actually raised guidance back in April, and you mentioned they were creative. Maybe you could just provide some color, like how much, or if, I know you don't disclose this, but maybe what you sort of expect to get from the guidance, and what is offsetting that contribution? I mean, if it's, you know, maybe it's nothing that large, so that's why. against rates is not warranted, but if you correct me.
spk07: It's a great question. It's a great question. Those were small acquisitions. And so for those two in particular, our aggregate average multiple hasn't moved. But for those two acquisitions in particular, there was a little bit higher than our historical cadence. of mid to high single digit. And as a result, when you look at kind of the annual contribution and you take just the back half of this year, it's a de minimis amount of contribution and not enough to move our annual guidance. When we started 2024, just to kind of reset where we were, we were at 90 to 95 and we took it up to 95 to 100 on the back of very strong organic performance and the strong impact of acquisitions that had already been completed. And so we feel like a lot of the expectation for this year was baked into that guidance. And these two transactions are too small for us to kind of increase it further, though as the year progresses, there may be opportunity to re-look at that as we get through Q3.
spk03: All right, thanks. And just to follow up, it's not related, but with Matrix, The target team's margins, what's left to get it there? And, you know, do we actually start seeing that in 3Q?
spk07: Yeah. I mean, look, what you've seen, again, just to kind of reset so that we know where we started, when we purchased Matrix, that business was around 4.5% to 5% EBITDA margins, and we knew, of course – but there was lots of opportunity for us to influence that, and that is now trending to low double digits and is well on its way to achieving its mid-teens by the end of this year. And so we're feeling really good about the trajectory of that business, and obviously the returns to Montrose are exceptional. All the things we've done to get from 5-ish percent to the low double digits are things like pricing, staffing optimization, the optimization of overhead costs, And those efforts have largely been put in place and have almost been completed. And the increase between now and the end of the year is just a continuation of what's already well in flight. This is a timing issue, but the efforts are all in place.
spk03: Thanks a lot for taking my questions.
spk02: Thank you. Thank you. And once again, please press star then 1 if you would like to ask a question. And the next question is from Stephanie Yee with J.P. Morgan. Hey, Stephanie.
spk01: Good morning. Could you give us an update on the renewable service business, how that's progressing? I think you're going to lap the pivot that you started in the back half of last year as we enter into the third quarter this year.
spk07: Yeah. No, thanks, Stephanie. That's progressing really well. So that business – Similar to what I was describing earlier, last year to this year should see nice growth. First half to second half of this year should see nice growth. And 24 to 25 should see nice growth. And so we're back on offense in that business. It is part of our treatment technology portfolio. And it's the same team as we've talked about before. And the combination of our water treatment and renewables business we think is on a really nice upward trajectory over the next couple of years.
spk01: Okay, great. And I have a question on capital allocation. So you've done five acquisitions here to date. I think, are you thinking maybe you might surpass your goal of acquiring 10 million in EBITDA in any given year? And then secondly, would you consider buying back your shares at the current stock levels and to offset the dilution from more shares outstanding?
spk07: Let me take the first question and I'll take the second one. So, yes, we have surpassed our goal this year of acquiring 10 million a year. And the opportunity set ahead of us remains quite significant, Stephanie, and we talked about this in the context of the capital raise. selection as a preferred acquirer by many of the companies that we're talking to remains as robust as ever. And the opportunity for us to continue adding value for our shareholders and for our business is as robust as ever. So we expect to see continued activity through the back half of this year. And we'll stay close to you as that progresses. And then the outlook for next year remains quite strong as well.
spk06: Yeah. And on the On a potential buyback, Larry, it's something, honestly, we've discussed internally, but being a high-growth company that doesn't seem to fit with the thesis, and while we agree this looks like a pretty attractive entry point, it's just not where our focus is, right? The investments and acquisitions have very strong ROIs. It fits with our strategy and thesis. And so we're going to stick to running the business that way. It's certainly something we've looked around internally.
spk07: Yeah, stock price for us, Stephanie, as you know, is something we don't fully control. And it looked like the stock price reacted to the Supreme Court Chevron decision. So we're looking forward to getting back. We were in the midst of a quiet period, getting it back in front of investors to talk through it. And as we mentioned to you, look, we can buy businesses amidst the high single digits. the value that creates for all of our shareholders and contrasted with buying back Montrose stock at, even at these depressed prices, mid to high teens multiples. It's ultimately our fiduciary responsibility to all of you, and we'll always make sure we execute on that. But we're feeling pretty good about the plan, and we do think the markets will be rational over the medium to long term.
spk01: Okay. Understood. Thank you.
spk02: Thank you. And that does conclude the question-and-answer session. I would like to return the conference over to Vijay Mestrupagada, CEO, for any closing comments.
spk07: Thank you all again for your time, and we look forward to sharing more progress, and have a fantastic day. Thank you.
spk02: The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation.
spk07: You may now disconnect your lines.
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