7/29/2022

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Operator

Greetings and welcome to the second quarter 2022 results for Magna International. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, we will conduct a question and answer session. At that time, if you have a question, please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone. If at any time during the conference you need to reach an operator, please press star 0. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Friday, July 29th, 2022. I would now like to turn the conference over to Louis Tonelli, VP Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Louis Tonelli

Thanks, Sylvana. Hello, everyone, and welcome to our conference call covering our Q2 2022 results. Joining me today are Swami Kodagiri, Vince Galissi, and Pat McCann. Yesterday, our Board of Directors met and approved our financial results for Q2 2022. We issued a press release this morning outlining our results. You'll find the press release, today's conference call webcast, the slide presentation to go along with the call, and our updated financial review all in the investor relations section of our website at magna.com. Before we get started, just as a reminder, the discussion today may contain forward-looking information or forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities legislation. Such statements involve certain risks, assumptions, and uncertainties, which may cause the company's actual or future results and performance to be materially different from those expressed or implied in these statements. Please refer to today's press release for a complete description of our safe harbor disclaimer. Please also refer to the reminder slide included in today's deck related to our commentary today. And with that, I'll pass it over to Swami.

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Swami Kodagiri

Thank you, Luis. Good morning, everyone. Happy to be here to provide a general update on Magna as well as our Q2 results. Key takeaways from today's call, continuing challenges have impacted our Q2 earnings. However, results vary in line with our internal expectations. Once again, we generated organic sales outgrowth of weighted light vehicle production in the quarter, a trend we expect to continue in the second half of the year. We modestly increased our outlook for 2022 sales, despite the recent strengthening of the U.S. dollar, and we continue to make progress in our go-forward strategy, which will drive our business for years to come. I will briefly cover the current dynamics impacting the industry. We continue to experience supply constraints, including semiconductors. The China COVID lockdowns in the quarter created further supply chain bottlenecks that are still being felt in the industry. We do expect constraints to continue at least throughout 22, but expect improvement in the second half of the year relative to the first. Input costs remain at elevated levels. We remain highly focused on obtaining cost recoveries, have had some success, and we continue to have discussions with customers at various stages at various levels. The stronger US dollar relative to other currencies in which we operate, particularly the Euro, is negatively impacting our reported results. And there is some risk going forward that high inflation and rising rates will impact auto consumers. In terms of tailwinds, dealer vehicle inventories remain low and underlying auto demand is relatively strong and constrained by the tight supply. These factors support improving production levels in the second half of 2022, particularly as semiconductor availability improves, and the China government recently announced economic stimulus that should help drive auto demand. Our second quarter earnings were in line with our expectations. Relative to the second quarter of 2021, consolidated sales were $9.4 billion up 4% compared to a 2% increase in global light vehicle production. On an organic basis, sales were up 12%, representing 4% growth over market. In fact, our organic sales grew faster than production in each of North America, Europe, Asia, and South America. EBIT margin declined 240 basis points to 3.8%, substantially as a result of higher net input costs. We also had operating inefficiencies at a best facility in Europe. The inefficiencies negatively impacted the second quarter by about 25 basis points. Our adjusted EPS fell to 83 cents for the quarter. On a US GAAP reported basis, EPS declined to a loss of 54 cents reflecting a non-cash impairment charge on our investment in Russia that amounted to $1.24. And free cash flow was $52 million in Q2, down year over year, but up $151 million sequentially from the first quarter of 2022. During the quarter, we repurchased 3.5 million shares using $212 million in cash, and paid out another $130 million to shareholders in the form of dividends. While we are keeping our focus squarely on the short-term challenges we are facing, we continue to invest and prepare for the future. Back in May, we held an investor day in Pontiac, Michigan, where many of you had the opportunity to experience firsthand some of our leading-edge technologies. At that event, we also provided an update on our progress with our go-forward strategy, which focuses on accelerating deployment of capital towards high-growth areas, driving operational excellence, and unlocking new business models and markets. We rolled this strategy out a year ago, and I'm pleased to report that we are executing on that strategy and in many areas performing even beyond our previous expectations. We highlighted that as we accelerate deployment of capital towards high growth areas, we are on track to meaningfully shift our portfolio in these areas as our business continues to grow from 18% to 24% of our business by 2027 based on our plan. We also highlighted how we continue to drive operational excellence through digitization and factory of the future tools. We believe these actions will ultimately allow us to continue to win business, manage ongoing price pressures, cost inflation, and contribute to margin expansion. Lastly, as we examine the broader market for mobility, we see an expanding ecosystem for us to go beyond the traditional supply and manufacture of vehicles, and we see a lot of opportunity to participate in this growing market. The current operating environment is challenging. However, we are managing through it, and I'm excited about what the future holds for Magna and our shareholders. With that, I'll hand it over to Pat to take you through the financials.

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Luis

Thanks, Swami, and good morning, everyone. First, I'll start with a detailed review of the quarter. Global vehicle production increased 2% in the quarter, driven by North America, which was up 14%. partially offset by China and Europe, down 5% and 1%, respectively. Our consolidated sales were $9.4 billion, up 4% from the second quarter of 2021. The increase was primarily due to higher North American vehicle production, higher assembly volumes, the launch of new programs, and price increases to recover certain higher input costs. These were partially offset by the negative impact of foreign currency translation, lower sales in Russia, net divestitures, and customer price concessions. On an organic basis, our sales increased 12% year over year, representing a 4% growth over market in the second quarter. Adjusted EBIT was $358 million, and adjusted EBIT margin declined 240 basis points to 3.8% which compares to 6.2% in Q2 2021. The lower EBIT percent in the quarter was substantially due to higher net input costs. Other items that negatively impacted margin were operating inefficiencies and other costs at a facility in Europe, reduced earnings on lower sales in Russia, a favorable value-added tax settlement in Brazil in Q2 of last year, lower tooling contribution, and lower equity income. These items were partially offset by higher favorable commercial settlements, lower net warranty costs, and divestitures of loss-making entities. Equity income was down $19 million year-over-year to $25 million in the quarter. The decline reflects reduced earnings on lower sales and higher net input costs at certain equity-accounted entities and electrification spending and our LGJV. Our adjusted effective income tax rate came in at 24.9%, in line with our Q2 expectations, but higher than Q2 of last year. Net income attributable to Magna was $243 million compared to $426 million in Q2 2021, reflecting lower EBIT, higher interest expense, and a higher tax rate. Diluted EPS was 83 cents. compared to $1.40 last year. The decrease is the result of lower net income partially offset by a lower number of shares outstanding. The lower number of shares outstanding primarily reflects the impact of the purchase and cancellation of shares during and subsequent to Q2 of 2021. I will now review our cash flows and investment activities. During the second quarter of 2022, we generated $560 million in cash from operations before changes in working capital and invested $139 million in working capital. Investment activities in the quarter included $329 million for fixed assets, an $80 million increase in investments, other assets, and intangibles, and $2 million in public and private equity securities. Overall, free cash flow was $52 million in Q2. We also repurchased $212 million of our common shares and paid $130 million in dividends. At the end of the second quarter, our adjusted debt to adjusted EBITDA was 1.48, and our liquidity remained strong at $5.2 billion, including almost $1.7 billion in cash. Next, I will cover outlook. We have held our production estimates in line with our previous outlook, and we assume exchange rates in our outlook will approximate recent rates. Given recent currency moves, we now expect a weaker Euro, Canadian dollar, and renminbi for 2022 relative to our previous outlook. We have increased our expected ranges for BES, power and vision, seeding, and consolidated sales, largely reflecting improved program mix, partially offset by the strengthening of the U.S. dollar, in particular relative to the euro. Our complete vehicle segment has also improved mixed programs. However, this benefit is more than offset by our assumption of a weaker expected euro, leading to a slight reduction in the sales range. Interest expense has been reduced to approximately $80 million, from approximately $90 million previously, primarily reflecting higher interest rates. And our expectations for the adjusted EBIT margin, equity income, tax rate, net income attributable to Magna, and capital spending are all unchanged from our last outlook. And we have maintained our free cash flow projections in the range of $700 to $900 million. In summary, our second quarter was in line with our expectations and we anticipate stronger results in the second half of the year relative to the first half. Our sales outgrew weighted production for the quarter and this is expected to continue. This is driving the increase in our outlook. We continue to focus on operational excellence, managing our costs and obtaining customer recoveries to help address the current challenges and our future. We are making progress in our go-forward strategy. Thanks for your attention this morning. We would be happy to answer your questions.

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Operator

Thank you. If you would like to register a question, please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone. You will hear a three-tone prompt to acknowledge your request. If your question has been answered and you would like to withdraw your registration, please press the 1 followed by the 3. One moment, please, for the first question. Our first question comes from John Murphy with Bank of America Securities. Please proceed with your question.

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John Murphy

Good morning, guys. Can you hear me okay? Yes, John. So I guess the first question is, you know, the second quarter came in a fair amount weaker than we were expecting yesterday. but you maintain the full year. So I'm just curious, if you look at this, there's a reasonably meaningful acceleration in the second half versus the first half if you go on EBIT. Pat, what are kind of the key drivers there? Is it a function of volumes coming through or there being more stability in schedules and raws easing? What are the key drivers there?

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Luis

Hi, John. Morning. I think you've covered most of the key drivers. It really is driven by volumes. We are seeing when you neutralize for the amount of FX, given the Euro's decline, we are seeing improved, I would say, production activity that's being offset by the foreign exchange. We have positive volumes. We also have positive mix. And to your point earlier as well is we are seeing improvements in the cadence of our recoveries. And finally, we are seeing some stability coming into the production schedules. So I think all those factors are driving that growth that cadence. But I think as well, John, I know the expectations for the, your expectations for Q2 are at one level. I have to reiterate that our expectations were in line. So we executed against our expectations in Q2.

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John Murphy

Okay. All right. That's helpful. And then just a second question. I mean, traditionally when times get tough, you guys win a decent amount of takeover business and it's, you know, depending on where you sit in the value chain, it's kind of a tough time, particularly for some smaller suppliers. And I'm just curious if any takeover business that you see either now that may be coming available for you or especially as buy-ins rewind and some of these other suppliers can't handle the ramp back up. I mean, have you, are you seeing any of that now or expect to see that sometime in the coming quarters?

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Swami Kodagiri

Good morning, John. I would say we are keeping our eyes wide open right now, and there is discussion to an extent, I would say, looking at takeover business and so on. I think as the current economic conditions continue, hopefully they end soon, but as they continue for the next short period of time, I think there could be such opportunities, and we whether it's customer interaction and learning from them and looking to help out there or just, you know, opportunities that come to us. We're, you know, being very attentive, let's say.

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John Murphy

And Swami, maybe just the last one. I mean, when you, when you look at what Ford is doing in a reordering and resegmentation of its, not just its accounting, but its internal ops around EVs and ICE, what does that mean for you? I mean, they're obviously a large customer and, And do you see other large customers doing anything like that that may either be good or bad for your business?

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Swami Kodagiri

John, I think it's a fluid condition, but we are having a lot of conversations, whether it's with code or other customers who are looking at reprioritizing or looking at optimizing the best way to, I guess, address both segments, right, which is ICE as well as the, you know, fast accelerating EV market. But if you just look overall from an organizational perspective, you know, how the purchasing functions work, how the development work is done, I think we'll have an impact on our conversations with them. As you know, with most of our customers, we have holistic strategy roadmap discussions. So we are at the table given the various products that we are in. I think overall it's going to be helpful for us, and we have said that in the Investor Day and many other occasions. As we talk about system integration and bringing things together and providing overall optimized costs at a system level rather than each of the products, I think Magna has a benefit. As you talk about electrification and what happens to the underbody and therefore its impact on the seats are a good example. We talked about DMS where how Inside Mirrors can work with Canva and ADAS, and we're talking about connected power trains in the future. So if you look across Magna, I think bringing things together, I believe, will give us an advantage as we have this conversation.

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John Murphy

Okay. Thank you very much, guys. Appreciate it. Thanks, John.

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Operator

Our next question comes from Itay McKellie with Citigroup. Please proceed with your questions.

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spk02

Great. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Just first, I wanted to hone in on two items in the quarter. First, I was hoping you could quantify the operating inefficiency of the facility in Europe. And second, maybe talk a bit more about the seating margin. It looks like you're expecting that to get back to maybe mid-4% in the second half. I was hoping you could kind of talk about the quarter and the bridge there for the second half of the year.

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Swami Kodagiri

I think, Pat, you can talk a little bit about the city margins. But the best facility, I think, from a program change perspective, a complex product led to inefficiencies. In terms of strap and, therefore, started to impact, I would say, the capacity allocation and meeting all the customer expectations in terms of production, the steam in place There is a very clear understanding of the issue, very good plan. As you can imagine, if you look at any situation like this, it takes a little bit of time to get to full stability of the production. So that's really the impact. We are not getting into the specifics, but as you heard Pat talk about, I think it was about a 25 basis points impact on the Q2, and I would say about a 20 basis points for the second half of 22.

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Luis

And as far as the seeding, when you look at the margins going forward, I think I would frame them more as that margins are stabilizing and returning to expectations. Our seeding business was disproportionately hit, I would say, in H1 and in particular in Q2 with the nature of the business. So with the stop-stop nature of what we've been seeing in the first half of the year and some of the negative mix where we have some higher vertical integration. So I think what we're seeing is we were disproportionately hitting Q2 ending H1, and as we move into H2, we're seeing that stabilize and returning to previous levels.

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Louis Tonelli

We have some normal launch costs in the first half that subside in the back half as well.

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spk02

That's very helpful. Two other quick follow-ups first. To what extent is sort of the second half margin rate a good baseline to think about for 2023? I know there's a lot of noise with customer recoveries, but hoping you can maybe give us some help there. And then maybe for Swami, hoping you can maybe update us on just overall booking and quoting activity, kind of what you're seeing in new business in the second quarter.

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Luis

Yeah, we're not going to get specifically into our 23 margins. It's the cadence we go through, and it's not a new business. situation, but we're going to start our business planning process. But if you start doing the cadence of our earnings from H1 to H2, you do see an improvement in our earnings. So our exit margins should be more reflective go forward. I think we were disproportionately hit in H1 on some of the commodities, and we're seeing improvements as we go forward.

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Swami Kodagiri

Yeah, I think the second part of the question that you asked in terms of bookings, you know, We kind of look at the overall year plan, and there is, I would call it lumpiness sometimes on the decision-making process, but if you sit and look at today where we are, I would say we are pretty much in line with the plan and doing well and feel comfortable that we'll track to the plan, if not better, I would say, sitting where we are right now.

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spk02

Great. That's all very helpful. Thank you.

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Operator

Our next question comes from Peter Sklar with the BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed.

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Peter Sklar

Good morning. Pat, question for you. In the last two quarters, you've given us an update on the magnitude of the unrecoverable incremental costs. I believe your last update was $565 million on an annual basis. Now there seems to be some put and takes listening to the discussion this morning. It sounds like you've You have had some successful commercial settlements with your customers. It sounds like commodity costs are easing somewhat. I'm just wondering if you can give us an update on that number.

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Luis

Yeah, the number hasn't really moved, Peter. I think to your point, there has been some puts and takes between the gross, the net, but we're holding firm at the 565. If you remember, we started the year at We saw some acceleration in April, primarily driven by Russia's invasion of Ukraine, driving a lot of energy costs throughout the European continent. So when you put it all together, where we stand today, as you said, there's some puts and takes, but we're holding at the 565. So I think some of that stability is coming in.

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Peter Sklar

Okay. And then my next question is, I believe it was just over 400 million of impairment charges you took during the quarter. Is the lion's share of that the impairment of the Russian assets?

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Luis

Exactly, Peter. So when you break down the other expense, there's, like you said, just over 400 and a quarter roughly. And of that four and a quarter, 50 of it relates to mark to market on warrants and other private public entity securities. But the bulk of it does relate to the Russian impairment, which was $376 million. And effectively what we've done, Peter, is given the accounting rules and our ability to generate cash flows out of that market, we've impaired it. We've fully impaired the assets other than the cash balances, which we're not able to do under accounting standards.

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Peter Sklar

Okay. And Pat, when you say fully impaired, you mean it's impaired to zero, so we won't see that in future quarters? Exactly. Okay.

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Pat

Other than the cash.

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Peter Sklar

And then my last question. Yeah, thanks. And then my last question for the management team. I'm just wondering if you could give some flavor around the performance of the power and vision. There was no revenue growth. Your margins deteriorated year over year, I think from about down to 3%-ish. And I thought you might have had some growth there. and improvement as your ADAS programs come on. So I'm wondering if you could just talk a little bit about what's unfolding in that segment.

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Luis

I can start, and I think Swami can jump in as well. When you break the numbers down, Peter, and you think about what's happening in the industry, we talk a lot about a higher input cost of whether it's inflation and whatnot. This group is disproportionately hit in that space because they are exposed much more to the chip space. And they have also, the other issue or fact is that they have more of a European footprint. So when you think about what's driving our 565, relative to the size of this group, there's a higher amount of those costs in this area. So when you look year over year, we're down 380 basis points. substantially all of that decreases inflation type items.

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Peter Sklar

Okay. And there's no revenue growth. I thought some of your ADAS programs would be ramping by this time.

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Swami Kodagiri

Yeah. I think the ADAS programs ramp is, you know, a slow ramp as we start going into the launch of the programs you might be talking to you, but generally overall from the perspective of ADAS or powertrain operationally, as well as, quality of the general health and the booking traction, we feel good in terms of the plan that we talked about in the investor day or in the previous quarters.

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Louis Tonelli

And we're going to see some of that growth that's going to come through unconsolidated sales in our consolidated results that are still coming through.

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Peter Sklar

Meaning it's in the equity line. Correct. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for your comments. Perfect. Thanks, Peter. Thanks, Peter.

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Operator

Our next question comes from Chris McNally with Evercore. Please proceed.

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Chris McNally

Thanks so much, team. I was wondering if we could follow up on the 565 headwind inflation for the year. Is it possible to broadly bucket, you know, in broad percentage terms, you know, how much are hard to recover, you know, probably it's going to take more like 12 to 18 months for things that are more direct, raw material related, just not covered by pass-throughs. So I just imagine things like utility and transport, it's going to take longer because we're in sort of new territory. Any sort of way to bucket so we can just have an idea how those recoveries would work would be super helpful.

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Swami Kodagiri

Good morning, Chris. I wish I could give you the granularity, but... You're kind of looking at our assumptions, and if you look at the estimate last quarter, year over year, I would say that net input costs for 22 was the number you mentioned, the 465, obviously, right? Some amounts have changed, and as I mentioned, our discussions with the customers are ongoing. We've had some success, and we are not even looking at just 22, right? We've got to look at some of the costs incurred in the past. We're going to look at how to Carry forward these discussions into possible continuing effects in 23 and beyond So it's kind of a complex equation trying to figure how best to address this Obviously the the big topics I would say are the commodities the semiconductors and other materials there is energy and given the production conditions you know, not being very stable, I would say, right? Our primary goal is now how to keep supporting our customers so there is premium wages and freight and other and so on. It's kind of really difficult to put a pin on each one of them and categorize this, Chris, but we are very much focused on not just looking at the 465 and, you know, it's a continuing conversation going forward, 565, sorry, not 465. with various customers.

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Chris McNally

That's very helpful, Swami. Again, it's more of a question of the high level for how Magner is thinking about going back to the OEMs for these conversations. I guess the other way we can think about it is in February, you gave a guide for 2024, obviously volume dependent, 8.1% to 8.6% margin. Over the next couple of months, you incur another $200 million in sort of extraordinary costs due to the war. The question is, do you think if we got back to that volume level we have over the next two years, the ability to make up that 200, so that broadly speaking, and obviously you're going to give an updated guide, that you remain on target for 2024 volume dependent?

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Swami Kodagiri

So, Pat, you can jump in, but I think we talked about, Chris, that's exactly what we kicked off as a normal scenario. annual business planning process right now and we go kind of bottoms up, right? And if you look at the last three years, three months, the volumes have changed a few times, right? And there's a certain uncertainty still. So we look at the volumes, but broadly speaking, right, you got to consider the current economic conditions and recovery discussions that we're having some of it, you know, it comes in various forms, right, whether it's givebacks or productivity improvements and businesses and so on and so forth. I think the intent would be to take all of that as a best guess. I shouldn't say best guess. The best effort to put things together, and that's what will help us come to the guidance when we come to February of 23. But we have to take all of this... inflation and, you know, what do we end up at the end of the year with our conversations or discussions with customers? All of this will play a role. I don't know, Pat, if you want to add something.

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Luis

Yeah, the only thing I would add, Chris, it's not a linear calculation, right? So it's not you just carry these numbers forward. Part of the discussions we have with our customers is not just looking at 22 and asking for a check to recover. So what we're looking at is multiple factors. You're looking at PO changes, which will continue. The other factor we look at is do we Do we have an ability to pass that cost through to the customer via customer programs so we're de-risking our bombs? And some of that de-risking strategy, you're pushing it through and you're effectively pushing your cost up to the customer. And it allows us to focus on what we're good at, which is manufacturing. And so we look at de-risking strategies, whether it's on energy, materials. And just to clarify in your first when we started this conversation, when you think about the pass-through costs, we have significant costs or commodity costs that are on pass-through programs that are already where the costs flow directly to the customer. So when you look at changes on the price of steel, if we're on a customer resale, we're not exposed in that area. So I apologize for the long answer, but that's, it's a very complicated influx.

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Chris McNally

No, I appreciate it. And no, it's a tough question. Thanks, Pat. Thanks, Tommy. Thank you. Thank you.

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Operator

Our next question comes from Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.

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Mark Delaney

Yes, good morning. Thank you very much for taking the questions. First one is to better understand the full year top line outlook. You've left your global production assumptions unchanged, but you did pick up the full year revenue guidance, even though I think there's some FX headwinds there. So maybe you could talk a little bit more on what's leading to the slightly higher revenue view despite the unchanged production outlook.

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Luis

Morning, Mark. I think when we break down our volume mix, so part of the The win actually has happened in Q2, so we outperformed in Q2. And I think when you get a chance, go see the MD&A. But we're seeing a couple of things that's driving that. We have, you know, you think about we have positive mix. So when you look at some of the mix on the volume side of it, we're seeing positive mix in Q2, but also continuing out through the balance of the year. And that's really just program volumes. The second area where we have some positivity relates to content on the programs and mix within the various programs. And then finally, what we're also seeing is we're talking about a lot of these recoveries. Some of them do come in the form of a PO adjustment, whether it's a past, like a resale program or some of the recoveries receiving from our customers. That's all those factors are driving an increase in net content per vehicle, I would say. To your other point, you're right. We do have impact the other way on foreign exchange. That's primarily driven by the Euro decline significantly in the last three months.

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Louis Tonelli

I think the mix is more impacting us in the back half of the year than we saw in Q2. A little bit positive in Q2, but more in the back half.

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Mark Delaney

My second question is on Europe. I'm hoping you can share more details about what Magna is seeing in Europe related to potential gas and energy shortages. Maybe you can speak to what Magna and perhaps the industry more broadly are doing to potentially mitigate impacts and to the extent natural gas flows do sustain at very low levels, do you have any early assessments about how much production could be impacted in Europe? Thanks.

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Swami Kodagiri

Yeah. Good morning, Mark. I think it will be very difficult in these conditions to have an assumption of what the production impact could be, given the fluidity of the situation there. But, you know, whether it was COVID or whether it was, you know, chip shutdowns, we are reacting to a, call it a, a very volatile situation, right? But whether it was the sustainability efforts that we had taken up and looking at optimizing energy, how do we plan, all of these things come into play and hopefully help us in thinking through the energy part of it. To the extent possible, we have the contracts in place, but given the current state, we have to see what it might be. I think the energy crisis that we're talking about in Europe has a much larger impact beyond even automotive in Europe. I think the secondary effects could be far outreaching. Other than looking at the DNA of resilience and being agile and working with the customers, I don't know. There's a whole lot that could be done from an energy perspective. Understood. Thank you.

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Operator

Our next question comes from Joseph Spack with RBC. Please proceed.

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Joseph Spack

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Sorry, just to sort of go back to some of the change in guidance. I understand you think, you know, MIX and CBV and some of the recoveries are better on the top line. But then you sort of still kept this 565 of headwinds, which I think was a net number, right? So I guess the implication would be that, you know, maybe you're, you also raised your gross commodities and, you know, we are starting to see some, some, some falling there. So can you just help me understand exactly, I understand there's a little bit of a, maybe a given a take between sort of how you assumed some of those, uh, some of the netting of the gross headwind was going to occur, but it's still, I'm still having a little bit of trouble, uh, or a difficulty sort of squaring some of your comments.

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Louis Tonelli

I think you're right, Joe. I mean, we talked about puts and takes in the net number. Some things went up. Some of those input costs went up, whether it be commodity or otherwise. But some of our recovery expectations went up as well. So the net number did not change. And I wouldn't say that's a huge number, but there's a little bit of incremental recoveries that's built into our plan. The bigger element, I think, is the program mix.

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Joseph Spack

Okay. Do you think you can get to a better – you know, and probably not all the way neutral, but to a better price-cost equation by the end of the year?

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Swami Kodagiri

Yeah. Joe, good morning. I think we continue, like I said, our discussions with the customers, right? You know, when we talk about the 565, it's a planned number, obviously. It's not the end-all, right? We continue to push in all directions. And as Louis said earlier, We look at some of the recoveries that were already built in, you know, before we talked about the net 565 number. And as they come to start to flow through the, you know, the sales line, the cost of sales line, they remain kind of margin neutral. Like I said, again, we are not just looking at 22. We are looking at, you know, recoveries in general and holistically what could it mean to us as a business in the long term. As you're looking at new codes, you know, we look at new economics. As part of these conversations, it's a multivariable equation, I should say, that we are having conversations right now. So, you know, all I can say is we'll be focused not tied to the 465 number, but, you know, overall how much more can we optimize and how do we optimize, right?

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Joseph Spack

Okay, thanks for that. Maybe just to go back to Europe and energy, and I understand quantifying potential impact to your customers is pretty much impossible at this point, but specifically with your Steyr business there, how does it work contractually with your customers that you're making cars for if you have some higher energy costs there? Where does that get absorbed?

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Luis

Morning, Joe. To be honest with you, it really varies depending on the contract that we have. So when you think about our Steyr business, it has some significant productions under a couple of contracts, and it really varies depending on which customer and which contract we're working on. I think the vast majority of our contracts in Europe outside of Steyr would be – primarily it's the economics are our responsibility and that's fully reflected in the 565 and the recoveries that we're targeting and the recoveries that we have achieved already. Thank you.

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Operator

Thanks, Joe. Our next question comes from Colin Langen with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

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Pat

Oh, great. Thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to follow up on the 565 and input cost. Can you just remind us of the cadence through the year? How much was it again in Q1 and how much was it actually this quarter?

speaker
Luis

Morning, Colin. It's Pat here. I can jump in as far as the cadence and if you have a follow-on. But when we look at the breakdown of the 565, what we had experienced in the The first quarter was in the range of about $200 million, just broad brush, and we experienced the same in the second quarter. So when you think about the cadence going forward, we're not going to provide a split by quarter, but that's going to leave just under $200 million for the back half of the year, on a year-over-year basis. So H2 of 2022 versus H2 of 2021.

speaker
Pat

Got it. Okay. And I think that sort of helps explain my second question. So if I look at the midpoint of guidance, it looks like sales are up just 2% first half to second half, but about a 30% EBIT. So it has a pretty large contribution on that. The biggest delta is going to be much lower input cost headwinds. Is that really driving that high contribution on sales?

speaker
Louis Tonelli

Recovery. Recovery is, again, post-cost.

speaker
Pat

on those input costs.

speaker
Louis Tonelli

Okay, got it.

speaker
Pat

Okay. And then why the 2%? You know, I guess year over year, first half, second half gets a little wonky. But, you know, why just 2% growth considering I think IHS is up 9% for first half, second half? Is that just really FX starting to dip into sales?

speaker
Luis

Yeah, I think that's the biggest driver of it. You know, the euro did decline significantly from our previous estimate. So what you're seeing is, as I said earlier, is you have an increase in production activity in local currencies, and it's being deteriorated or reduced, that benefit, because of foreign exchange translation.

speaker
Louis Tonelli

Yeah, I don't think when we looked at it, we were that far off IHS in the region. So we're pretty much in line as far as this currency impact.

speaker
Pat

Got it. All right, thanks for taking my question. Thanks, Colin.

speaker
Operator

Our next question comes from James Piccarello with PNB Paribas. Please proceed with your question.

speaker
James Piccarello

Hey, good morning, guys. Just on electrification and the LG powertrain and Hasco JVs, can you just talk about Magna's progress in general, the major programs you have in the pipeline, and just how things are progressing relative to the multi-year programs sales ramp you have targeted over the next few years. I believe the LG JV broke ground on a facility in Mexico back in April. Just wondering what the update is there on timing.

speaker
Swami Kodagiri

Hi, good morning. I guess the short answer would be it's progressing well, but I'll give some color. I think if you go back and look at it, we looked at the 2019 as a basis for our LG Magna Joint Venture and kind of talked about a 50% CAGR over the three-year period at that time. I would say we are progressing well, you know, as we continue to gain traction and put plans into implementation. The result was the, you know, breaking ground in Mexico for the facility there. And if you refer to our investment investor deck slides and so on and our past commentary, We kind of talked roughly about $4 billion in electrification sales looking forward, and we came back in our investor day and said we opted to $4.5 billion now because we continue to execute on our plans and see further traction, right? You talked a little bit about our Haskell JV and our wholly owned business, I think. I would say we continue to launch the programs that we have talked about in the past, and we also continue to gain traction in looking at new business from our customers. So all in all, I would say, according to the plan that we communicated, we are in line or beating the discussions we have had a year ago.

speaker
James Piccarello

Got it. That's great. And I know you touched on this aspect, but can you share your thoughts on just what the contingency plans might be for the energy rationing possibilities in Europe? And just how Magnus is positioned from that standpoint.

speaker
Swami Kodagiri

I wish we could have a say in the policy implementation of energy rationing, but I would say it is a lot of discussions with our customers because, you know, not having one part is not going to get the car made. So I think there is a cohesive effort, I would say, from the customer and the entire supply base to see how we can keep the pipeline full. And no pun intended when I say pipeline. So other than that, I mean, honestly, there is no clear answer to this, right? We're all looking to see how we can stay resilient and function through uh, you know, all of it. It's just not a, a company solution. I think it's got to be a industry wide, uh, solution for this one.

speaker
James Piccarello

Yeah. Thank you.

speaker
Operator

Our next question is from Rod Lash with Wolf Research. Please proceed.

speaker
spk14

Good morning, everybody. Um, just, uh, First of all, just one clarification. So on the quarter, the $200 million year-over-year decline in EBIT, I see material up by 300 basis points as a percentage of sales, and you commented on the $200 million impact of non-recovered costs as basically the reason for the decline. But I'm not sure I'm seeing any contribution on the $800 million or so of organic sales growth. And just to clarify, is that largely because that growth was actually reimbursement for the gross impact of the costs that you're incurring?

speaker
Luis

Good morning, Rod. It's Pat. I think there's quite a few puts and takes. But to quickly answer your question, we do see pull through on our sales. There is about, as you mentioned, you've got to back out the FX. So if we start at the top, we have some dead widths on FX, right? So that's $600 million plus on sales. And when you back that out, you know how translation work. There's not much pull through on that number. You're basically pulling throughout the average FX margin rate by the regions. So you back off the FX. We do have positive sales activity again, I would say. higher than the $800 million, and it does have positive pull-through, more in the range where we've experienced in the past. The other thing to consider is our operations in Russia on a year-over-year basis. So we guided previously that we have a vote in the range of about $400 million of sales in the Russian market. So if you just take that by quarter, you're talking roughly another $100. And the pull-through on that would not be at our standard pull-through because we've effectively idled all those operations. So you're Decrementals there are pretty significant. Again, we talked about the 25 basis point impact on our operations in Germany. That's continuing. And as Swami mentioned earlier, we expect that to continue to go forward, range about 20 basis points. Then you have some other puts and takes. When you put it all together, Very long answer, Rod, and I apologize, but we are seeing pull through on our incremental sales to answer your very specific question.

speaker
Louis Tonelli

To your point, since there's index contracts and we're getting a price adjustment, it's really margin neutral, right? We're adding up higher cost of sales, higher sales. It's margin neutral, and that drags the margin down a little bit. And that's certainly impacted the last quarter and this quarter.

speaker
spk14

So what's the gross impact or, you know, when you're talking about $200 million of non-reimbursed expense, there was a reimbursement component. Can you just maybe give us a sense of how large that is? How much of your growth over market is coming from the reimbursement of higher costs?

speaker
Louis Tonelli

The growth over market year to date, the majority of that is just pure content growth, but there is a portion that's related to recovery, whether it be index-type contracts or other recoveries. In the quarter, we had, let's say, a higher proportion of it was related to recoveries, but we had just pure organic growth related to mix and content growth, et cetera, also in the numbers. We're not disclosing the growth numbers. We've only been talking about the net numbers on the net input costs.

speaker
spk14

Okay. Just two other things. So Ford, on their earnings call, mentioned that they have 550 suppliers at risk in Europe in the event of rationing and that they're building a 30-day buffer stock. Are you hearing anything along those lines with regard to building up additional inventory from your customers? And then lastly, Swami, on your prepared remarks, you talked a little bit about going beyond the supply and manufacture of vehicles. Could you just elaborate what you were referring to?

speaker
Swami Kodagiri

Yeah, absolutely. I think, good morning. When we talked about energy rationing, you know, I talked about it. We are seeing various initiatives, I should say, across OEMs and to see how we can, as much possible as possible, as you can, right, given the condition there to figure how to protect production, whether it's inventories or buildups and so on. I won't say there is one thing that we are seeing across the board, there is a mix of everything, but definitely that is very much in focus. The second point, when I talked about beyond, if you heard me talk about mobility ecosystem, how can we leverage Magna overall from a system perspective, beyond our core business of parts and system supply and contract vehicle manufacturing, whether it is delivery logistics, looking at what Magna can bring in as platforms, whether it's last mile, whether it's micromobility, possibly from an automotive infrastructure-related topics, whether it's charging stations and so on, It's in a preliminary evaluation, and we continue to have several discussions on that topic, but I would say it's pretty preliminary. That's what I meant by the comment in my prepared statement. Okay. All right. Thank you.

speaker
Luis

Thanks, Ron.

speaker
Operator

And our final question comes from Michael Glenn with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

speaker
Michael Glenn

Okay, thanks for getting me in. Maybe just to start on M&A environment, in terms of what you're seeing, are you seeing an uptick in opportunities present themselves? Is anything looking interesting to you at this point in time?

speaker
Swami Kodagiri

Good morning. I would say we continue to scan the M&A landscape more, I would say, in a very deliberate fashion, looking to see how you know, from a strategy perspective, addressing whether it's a technology, customer, geographic footprint. That continues. You know, I think in the initial comments to your question, I said, you know, given the economic conditions, you know, there might be opportunities that might come along, and we are very attentive, I should say, and stay focused to see it. And, you know, we're in the industry, we are well-known, and they all come to the table. So I don't think our approach to M&A changes because of it, but we'll, I would say, have our ear to the ground a little bit more.

speaker
Michael Glenn

And just maybe one on Europe. Going across the segments, with the Q1 results, I believe there was a comment indicating that body and exteriors, there was a An impact to think about from rising energy prices and I think earlier in the call. You indicated power and vision as well. Are those the two primary segments where you would see pressure on the on the rising energy or in which segment sees more pressure.

speaker
Swami Kodagiri

I don't know whether it's a segment question. I think it would be more the process-related question, right, where you have energy-intensive processes, right, whether it's stamping or, you know, machining or molding and so on and so forth. So I think it would cut across, but given the nature of the product and the mix of the processes, I would say the BES segment and, you know, powertrain would be high-energy utilizing processes in place. Given that logic, I would say your assumption is correct. Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.

speaker
Luis

Thanks, Michael.

speaker
Operator

Mr. Katajiri, I'll turn the call back to you for closing remarks.

speaker
Swami Kodagiri

Thank you, and thanks, everyone, for listening in. As I said, the industry environment remains difficult, but we continue to demonstrate resilience while staying focused on our go-forward strategies, not just about today but about the future. Hopefully you heard that in our message. Enjoy the rest of your day and have a great weekend. Thank you.

speaker
Operator

That does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines.

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