5/1/2026

speaker
Jamie
Conference Operator

Good morning everyone and welcome to the Mohawk Industries first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star and then one on your touch tone telephones. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor over to Nick Manthe, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Jamie. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Mohawk Industries' quarterly investor conference call. Joining me today on the call are Jeff Oberbaum, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Paul DeCock, President and Chief Operating Officer. Today, we'll update you on the company's first quarter performance, and provide guidance for the second quarter of 2026. I'd like to remind everyone that our press release and statements that we make during the call may include forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Security Litigation Reform Act of 1995, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, those set forth in our press release and our periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. This call may include discussion of non-GAAP numbers For a reconciliation of any non-GAAP to GAAP amounts, please refer to our Form 8K and press release in the Investors section of our website. I'll now turn the call over to Jeff for his opening remarks.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Nick. Our performance for the first quarter was in line with our expectations despite a challenging environment. Our adjusted EPS was $1.90, up approximately 25% versus the prior year. Our results include benefits from productivity, restructuring, and product mix offset by inflation and volume. Last year was impacted by the system conversion and had four fewer days. Our net sales were approximately $2.7 billion, an increase of 8% as reported, or a decrease of 2.6% on a constant basis. Across our regions, the commercial sector continued to outperform residential. New home construction remained soft. and consumers continue to defer home purchases and remodeling projects due to economic uncertainty. We're implementing productivity actions and executing our previously announced restructuring projects to enhance our results. During the quarter, we repurchased 607,000 shares of stock for $64 million as part of our current stock buyback authorization. Our strong balance sheet provides strategic and operational flexibility to take advantage of opportunities that arise. At the end of February, the conflict in the Middle East intensified, increasing volatility in global energy markets. The full impact of the conflict is unpredictable given the disruption to the worldwide supply of oil and natural gas. Higher gasoline and diesel prices were the fastest and most visible impact of supply disruptions and are contributing to a more cautious consumer outlook. Energy prices as well as the cost of oil and natural gas derivatives are also increasing. which affects the costs of many of our products. Depending on the duration of the conflict, the economic impact will vary across our markets, with increased inflation reducing consumer sentiment and discretionary spending. U.S. natural gas prices have been less impacted due to the significant domestic production, though oil prices in the U.S. have risen as they follow worldwide trends. In the U.S., 10-year Treasury yields have increased, creating a corresponding rise in mortgage rates. The European continent will be more affected due to the dependence on oil and gas from the Middle East, and we have made forward purchases to limit our exposure. European governments are reviewing initiatives to lessen the impact on businesses and consumers, such as cutting energy taxes, implementing fuel price caps, and coordinating European gas storage. The energy markets will remain volatile until the global supply normalizes. We're implementing price increases across many products and geographies, and further price increases could be required. The impact of higher cost of raw materials will be greater in the second half of the year due to our flow-through of our inventory. We are continuing to launch new product collections with industry-leading designs and features to enhance our sales and margins. We're implementing operational strategies that we've used to navigate past disruptions, which prioritize adaptability and cost control. We're maintaining flexibility to align with evolving demand, supply availability, and volatile costs. We're focused on the controllable parts of our business, including sales initiatives, inventory levels, and discretionary spending and investments. Now, Nick will provide the details of our financial performance for the quarter.

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Jeff. Looking at our Q1 2026 financial results, net sales for the quarter were $2.7 billion. up 8% as reported, and a decrease of 2.6% on a constant basis. Our global ceramic segment delivered stronger mix, and we lapped the impact of the order management system conversion in flowing North America, which partially offset the slower market conditions across our markets. Gross margin was 23.5% as reported, and 24.8% on an adjusted basis. This is up 70 basis points from prior year, as the benefit of restructuring and productivity initiatives of $32 million and favorable FX of $20 million offset the increased input costs of $28 million. SG&A expenses were 19.4% as reported and 19.3% excluding charges in line with prior year levels. That gave us an operating income as reported of $112 million, or 4.1% of net sales. We had $38 million in non-recurring charges, primarily related to our restructuring actions initiated last year. Our adjusted operating income was $149 million, or 5.5% of sales. That's an increase of 70 basis points versus prior year. The benefits of lapping the prior year order management system conversion of $30 million and our restructuring and productivity initiatives of $36 million were partially offset by increased input costs of $38 million. Lower volumes, given the weaker market conditions, were offset by extra days in the quarter. Interest expense was $2 million, a decrease compared to prior year due to the reduction in short-term debt and the benefit of increased interest income. Our adjusted tax rate was 19.4%, and we are forecasting the full-year tax rate for 2026 to be between 19 and 20%. That gave us an earnings per share on both a reported and adjusted basis of $1.90. Turning to the segments, Global Ceramic had net sales just under $1.1 billion. That's a 10.4% increase as reported and basically flat on a constant basis. The ceramic business delivered positive price mix given strength in the commercial channel and continued success in the countertop business, offset by lower volumes in the residential channel. Adjusted operating income was 55 million or 5% of sales. That's an improvement of 20 basis points compared to the prior year, as the combination of productivity initiatives of 21 million and positive price mix of 13 million were only partially offset by an increase in input costs of $30 million. Flooring North America net sales were $880 million. That's a 2% increase as reported or a 4.1% decrease on a constant basis as sales were impacted by slower conditions in both new residential construction and residential remodeling. We had an adjusted operating income of 35 million or 4% of sales. That's an improvement of 100 basis points compared to prior year. as we lapped the impact of the order management system conversion of $30 million, which was partially offset by increased input costs of $13 million and the net impact of lower volumes. In Flooring Western World, we had sales of $751 million as reported. That's a 12.2% increase or a decrease of 4.4% on a constant basis. With the decrease in volumes in the residential remodeling market impacting our flooring categories, partially offset by volume growth in both our panels and insulation businesses. Adjusted operating income was $74 million, or 9.8% of sales. That's an improvement of 70 basis points compared to prior year, as the combination of productivity gains and lower input costs of $14 million were more than enough to offset negative price mix. Corporate expenses and eliminations were $14 million and a quarter, and we estimate the full year 2026 expenses to be between $52 and $55 million. And now looking at the balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents ended the quarter at $872 million, with free cash flow of $8 million in the quarter, which is in line with seasonal trends. Inventories were just shy of $2.7 billion, up less than 1% compared to prior quarter due to inflation. Property, plant, and equipment ended the quarter at just under $4.7 billion, CapEx spending in the quarter was $102 million, and we plan to invest approximately $480 million in 2026 focused on cost reduction initiatives, product innovation, and maintenance. The balance sheet remains in a very strong position with net debt of $1.2 billion and a net debt to EBITDA ratio of 0.9. In summary, our strong balance sheet provides us flexibility to navigate a challenging macro environment while staying positioned to pursue opportunities as the market recovers. Now, Paul will review our Q1 operational performance.

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Paul DeCock
President and Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, Nick. Our global ceramic segment delivered improved sales and profitability year over year. Our regions are responding to their local markets with new styles and sizes that are improving our average price and distribution in both residential and commercial. Our premium collections increased or mixed with advanced technologies that enhance the visuals. Across our regions, productivity improvements and restructuring actions are improving our results. In the US, we benefited from stronger commercial sales and increased retail partnerships, which offset ongoing weakness in the builder channel. In March, we introduced our spring collection, which emphasizes higher-end decorative wall tile and large, polished floor tile to enhance our mix. We announced price increases on ceramic tile and quartz countertops, to offset the higher material and transportation costs. We continue to expand our countertop business with quartz volume growing as we ramp up our new production and introduce higher value products. The US International Trade Commission recently ruled that imported quartz countertops from around the world are harming domestic production and the Commission is determining tariffs and quotas to safeguard the industry. In our European ceramic business we delivered solid sales and margin improvement with investments in sales personnel, showrooms and new collections. In the region we have greater participation in the commercial channels which is outperforming the residential markets. The industry has announced limited price increases at this point given the market softness. We have purchased a portion of our natural gas requirements this year which will reduce the impact of higher energy prices. Our Latin American ceramic businesses have been less impacted by the conflict. We are raising prices in Mexico and Brazil in response to increasing natural gas and transportation costs. In Mexico, our volume improved as we expanded distribution, improved service times, and grew sales with large-sized polished porcelain collections. In Brazil, our new product introductions are improving our mix with growth in the higher value porcelain category. U.S., Reciprocal tariffs on Brazil were significantly reduced, which will improve our export volumes to the United States. Brazil's economy remains sluggish and the central bank is now cutting interest rates to stimulate growth. Our flooring rest of the world segment's results were driven by productivity, cost improvements and additional days in the period. As the new year began, the European market was showing some improvement after multiple central bank rate cuts and lower inflation. With the war in Iran, consumer confidence declined as fuel and energy costs increased. We are implementing price increases to offset the higher costs impacting our business. In the quarter, our laminate sales benefited from growing retail partnerships and the success of our new collections, which combine elevated style and performance. We updated our LVT designs, added offerings at new price points, and expanded our retail distribution. Our sheet vinyl sales to the Middle East were disrupted, and alternative transport options are improving shipments. Our panels business improved sales and margins with our premium products, and we implemented price increases. We have since announced additional price increases to cover further inflation. Our new MDF recycling plant is expanding production and will further benefit our costs. Our insulation business performed well and improved our costs by re-engineering our products. We're growing our insulation sales in Germany and Eastern Europe to support the startup of our manufacturing facility in Poland. Our businesses in Australia and New Zealand improved results with favorable pricing, mix and cost. Our new carpet collections national promotions and increased participation in the new construction channel enhanced our performance. Our Flooring North America segment remained slow during the quarter given lower remodeling and new construction activity and inventory reductions in the channel. Our results were positively impacted by restructuring, system improvements and additional days in the period partially offset by lower volume and inflation. Commercial continued to outperform residential and we are improving our position in retail and new construction channels. During the quarter, we announced pricing actions in response to material, energy, and transportation increases. Mortgage rates rose almost half a point in March, leading to slower new home sales and declining builder sentiment. While new home sales softened, we have increased our presence in the top national and regional builders. We improved our hard surface mix, with our best-in-class laminate, hybrid, and LVT collections. Our proprietary accessories coordinate with our hard surface offering, increasing complementary sales. Our new carpet introductions are being well-received with a focus on our premium polyester and smart strand collections. In February, we launched the industry's first carpet collections certified by the Asthma and Allergy Foundation to significantly reduce household allergens using natural probiotics. Our commercial order backlog has seasonally improved with our carpet tile collections outperforming. Our recently acquired rubber flooring products are being embraced by architects and designers and are creating additional specification opportunities for our other commercial products. And I will now return the call to Jeff.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Paul. One month into the second quarter, we continue to adapt our business to changes caused by the Middle East conflict. Thus far we've announced price increases across much of our portfolio due to inflation, and our order backlog has continued to grow. Across our regions, the commercial channel remains solid, while residential remodeling and new home construction could be impacted by lower consumer confidence. Our high-end collections are performing better in the market, and our new products are enhancing our mix. We're maximizing our flexibility to react to changes in our supply chain, operating costs, and market demand. Presently, we're containing costs, reengineering products, and limiting capital expenditures. We'll not see the full impact of our pricing actions and rising costs until the third quarter. The degree to which the Middle East conflict will impact our markets depends on the duration of the disruptions and the inflationary pressure. Given these factors and one less shipping day in the second quarter, We expect our adjusted EPS to be between $2.50 and $2.60, excluding restructuring or other one-time charges. We are managing all aspects of the business we can control and responding to market changes as they arise. In the past, MOAC has adapted to cyclical changes as well as dramatic market disruptions while enhancing our business for the long term. Increased new home construction is necessary to satisfy growing household formations, and we expect deferred remodeling of aging housing stock across our regions will significantly increase flooring demand. As we navigate the current conditions, we're prepared to capitalize on the rebound in our industry that lies ahead. We'll now be glad to take your questions.

speaker
Jamie
Conference Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star and then one on your touchtone telephones. If you are using a speakerphone, we do ask that you please pick up your handset prior to pressing the keys. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and 2. And in the interest of time, we do ask that you please limit yourselves to a single question and a follow up. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble the roster. Our first question today comes from Trevor Allenson from Wolf. Please go ahead with your question.

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Trevor Allenson
Analyst, Wolf Research

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Jeff, I appreciate there's a lot of uncertainty in the market right now. At times in the past, you've given a range of outcomes for your business. Can you talk about what that range of outcomes looks like here as we move through 26 and into early next year? What drives the high end versus the low end? And how are you running your business today to account for the uncertainty and prepare for either end of that spectrum?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

There's a lot of uncertainty in the marketplace, and we're preparing for multiple options and staying flexible. If we look at the best case as we think forward, the supplies in the Middle East could open up in the near term and could return the supplies to normal over the next six months. This would remove the economic uncertainty and would improve the category and the flooring industry in the second half. We would expect the inflationary pressures to remain, though, throughout the year. The alternative view is that the disruption in the Middle East stays for a significant period of time. The inflation continues to increase, and it could result in a pullback by both consumers and businesses. In this case, we have alternative plans to adjust our business strategy to manage through at lower rates. Our strategy is to remain flexible and to adapt to the changes that occur. As a reminder, most flooring projects being initiated today are really to meet the changing needs because they've been down since 22 and should limit some of the downside if it gets worse. We expect a significant recovery given these four years of postponed flooring purchases.

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Trevor Allenson
Analyst, Wolf Research

Okay, thanks, Steve, for that. It was very helpful. And then a second question perhaps related to those comments. Last quarter you talked about expecting both sales and adjusted earnings to be up on a year-over-year basis in 2026. Just given all the macro uncertainty, should we still think that is a good base case for you guys to be able to grow those sales and adjusted earnings this year?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, in February, we had expected the category to improve, and we're really focused on maximizing the opportunities this year. With the war interrupting things, the environment's really changed, and we're focused on managing the inflation's impact on our margins. At this point, as we just went through, the potential impacts are really unpredictable and it's too early to tell where it's going to end up. We'll have to see how the conditions evolve.

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spk19

Okay. Thank you for all the coloring. Good luck moving forward.

speaker
Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from John Lovallo from UBS. Please go ahead with your question.

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John Lovallo
Analyst, UBS

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one is, can you provide some additional color on just maybe the magnitude of the price increases across regions and some of the key products? And what type of realization are you expecting given some of the challenges from a volume standpoint in the market?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, the Middle East conflict has really dramatically increased our material, energy, and transportation costs across all the different product categories. We're seeing some differences in each region and product categories, given different dynamics. And as you'd expect, Europe's more effective, given the use of their energy from the Middle East. Some of our products are also delivered, so we have to increase the prices to cover the freight costs as well. We've announced increases across the businesses, generally in the mid to high single digits, with significant variations by both product and geographies. And just to note, the imported products that we in the industry have have really long supply chains, and the price increases due to that will lag some of the others.

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John Lovallo
Analyst, UBS

Got it. And then maybe just to push a little bit more on this if I can. You know, let's just say that things stay as they are today. Do you believe that you have enough pricing in the market to offset the current level of inflation, or would additional pricing be needed just to offset what we know today?

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, John, thanks. You know, I think if you look at Q1, our price mix and productivity offset the impact of inflation. We expect similar dynamics in Q2. As Jeff outlined, we announced some more price increases in response to the inflation, and we'll really see the full impact of both the inflation and the pricing in the second half, and we will adjust as necessary as the environment evolves.

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John Lovallo
Analyst, UBS

Okay. Thank you, guys.

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spk00

Thanks, John.

speaker
Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Susan McClary from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead with your question.

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Susan McClary
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My first question is around the benefits of the new products. Can you talk about how the momentum you're seeing there is helping you to enhance the mix and incrementally perhaps offset some of that inflationary pressure that you're seeing? And do you also think that you're continuing to gain share with these new products?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

In each of the different businesses, the new product introductions There's a significant portion of them that are higher value products with more differentiation and command higher prices in the marketplace. With that, each of the different businesses is introducing unique products with different features and benefits. Ceramic is driven a lot by technologies of different sizes as well as different visuals with different decorating technologies to be able to create them. On the other side, we're introducing LVT collections with all the latest technologies and multiple alternatives for PVC in the marketplace with better performance, better scratch resistance, and other characteristics. The carpet categories, we're introducing premium products in polyester and the anti-allergen carpets, which have never been done, which is a concern by many consumers, and In each of the categories, I could go on with you, there's different products in each one to provide reasons for the consumers to trade up and spend more money.

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Susan McClary
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Thank you for that. And then turning to the margins, you've done a lot in terms of cost-cutting, and you're realizing some nice productivity across the business despite the headwinds. Can you talk about the ability to continue to see further productivity and then Any thoughts on how we should think about second quarter margins just across the three segments?

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yes, Susan. So I think on the productivity, you know, we generated over $200 million of productivity and restructuring savings last year. You know, this year we have another $50 to $60 million of restructuring savings that we should realize. And then, you know, in addition to that, over the last few years we've had additional productivity, you know, ranging from $80 to $100 million We'll continue to evaluate different ways to rationalize our cost structure as we go forward in the environment changes. I think you asked about Q2. We're really assuming the present demand trends continue through the second quarter, and there's somewhat of a limited impact from the conflict. The market volumes have been declining, and we've seen oil and gas prices increase, which will begin to impact our costs in Q2. We do expect price and mix will improve and help address that higher inflation. And then back to your original point, productivity and restructuring will continue to lower our costs similar to Q1.

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Susan McClary
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, so is it reasonable to assume that you see a fairly normal seasonal sequential lift in the margins? Yes.

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, typically, you know, Q2 is our strongest quarter of the year. You know, so going from Q1 to Q2, that's what you would expect.

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Susan McClary
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. All right. Thank you. Good luck with the quarter.

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yep. Thanks, Susan.

speaker
Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Adam Baumgarten from Vertical Research. Please go ahead with your question.

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Adam Baumgarten
Analyst, Vertical Research

Hey, good morning, everyone. Just a question on the input cost headwinds. Can you maybe size as it stands today, what you're thinking about for the back half? As you said, you're going to kind of see the peak levels at that time frame.

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think we're seeing inflation across the different materials and energy and transportation. We're not going to quantify a precise impact given it's changing pretty much daily. And really, as you said, in terms of cadence, the impact will begin in Q2 and ramp up into Q3.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

If you look at each of the different product categories, they're all driven by different things. So you have our carpet, LVT, and insulation. They're all oil-based and energy intensive. So the materials are being driven by the changes in gas and oil and the materials as well. In the ceramic business, it is really heavily cost by natural gas and transportation costs. And the transportation costs are both for raw materials as well as for shipping our products. And the other businesses are wood-based, which is laminate, wood, and panels. They have significant chemical costs in them to put them all together, as well as energy and transportation costs for those. We said before, just to remind you that we're assuming, not assuming, that inflation in Europe is higher. And we purchased a portion of the natural gas ahead to limit the volatility. We do see that US and Mexico have more stable natural gas prices. and are less affected by it. And we've announced price increases to cover all this, again, as we go through it.

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Adam Baumgarten
Analyst, Vertical Research

Okay, great. That's helpful. And then just, I believe you guys and maybe your competitors had some price increases out on certain products earlier in April, and it's been about a month. Just curious how those are going as it stands today.

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Paul DeCock
President and Chief Operating Officer

Yes, that's correct. We've recently announced more price increases of mid to high single digits. And with these level of inflations, the industry must pass them through.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

In the marketplace, I mean, all the prices are going up. The market seems to be understanding it, and we think we're going to have to push them through because we need it. And it's possible, given what's going on with the energy markets, we could need more.

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Adam Baumgarten
Analyst, Vertical Research

I got it. Thanks.

speaker
Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Stephen Kim from Evercore. Please go ahead with your question.

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Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore

Yeah, thanks very much, guys. Appreciate it. I think I heard you say in flooring rest of the world that inputs were a positive, even though I think for the company as a whole, it was a headwind of, I think you said, $38 million. So just trying to understand, can you give us some context around that? And I imagine, you know, you're anticipating that will probably flip negative, again, based on your comments. But could you just provide some context around the inputs in flooring rest of the world?

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yes, Steve. We did see some positivity in Q1 on a year-over-year basis. And you're right. We're seeing, you know, given the conflict, we're seeing the natural gas and oil prices go up in Europe. And so we would expect that inflation to begin in Q2 and ramp up in the back half.

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Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore

Okay, that's helpful. Secondly, and maybe a little more broadly, I want to touch on the innovation comments that you made. There was a comment in your press release about reengineering products, and I wanted to get some understanding of what that meant. you know, meant, like, are there certain products that you particularly want to call out? And then maybe at a higher level, we don't, there's a lot about the wars, the lingering impact of the war that we don't know. But the one thing we do know is that it's put a pause on shipments, and yet innovation is continuing, I would assume, uninterrupted. And so what I'm curious is, do you actually have a situation where that delay, this pause, if you will, in actually production and shipping could actually be a positive for you as you continue to work on innovation and R&D. Is this something that could actually lead to a competitive advantage for you as you develop new products such that when the conflict ends, when consumer confidence improves, you could actually capitalize on the R&D that was done during, let's say, a more quiet period? Is that a reasonable way of thinking about it or is that not?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

It's a continuous process and When you bring new products to market, it depends on which market, it takes anywhere from nine months to a year and a half to put them into the marketplace and then to mature over time. It's not an immediate impact to get them pushed through the marketplace as normal. The other part is, the big piece is that the industry and category started going down in It started with consumers pushing out things, housing sales going down around the world, and there's a huge pent-up demand and need for people in housing. The housing stock continues to get older, and when more confidence comes back, we're expecting many years of catch-up from what hasn't been spent the last three or four.

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Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore

And the role of new products in that, and particularly I'm thinking in areas like the hybrids products in North America, for example. I'm curious as to whether or not you think that, let's say, that category will be a little more settled and allow you to scale up production better than if, let's say, the consumer response had occurred last year, for example. Is that a reasonable way of thinking about it?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I don't think there's going to be that much difference relative to the new products because we have the capacity to support whatever is needed in the marketplace and react to it as we go through. I think the bigger impact is helping us increase the margins as the business increases and you get leverage in all the fixed costs over the business as it occurs. Okay.

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Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore

Great. Thanks very much.

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Stephen.

speaker
Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Rafe Jadrosich from Bank of America. Please go ahead with your question.

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Rafe Jadrosich
Analyst, Bank of America

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question.

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Jamie
Conference Operator

Good morning.

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Rafe Jadrosich
Analyst, Bank of America

Just to start, can you give an update on the Russia business, just like how big it is and then how it's been performing?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

We don't break it out in that detail, but the Russian business has been performing well. There's been no impacts on the business and how we operate it. We continue to generate cash in the business. The business has slowed down with the general economy over there, and we're adapting to it. We have a leadership position in the category, and we're complying with all the regulations.

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Rafe Jadrosich
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, that's helpful. And then I think... Last quarter you gave a little bit of color like what you were expecting full year for inflation, and obviously it's like the environment's moving around a lot. Is there any way to sort of quantify the level of inflation in the first half relative to what you're expecting in the second half?

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, Rafe, the inflation will – really begin to increase in Q2 and ramp up into the second half. Our pricing and other actions are intended to pass through those costs. As Jeff outlined, it really varies by product and region, and we will adjust our pricing as the levels of inflation change.

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Rafe Jadrosich
Analyst, Bank of America

Just asking in another way, just the first half, do you have an aggregate? What's the inflation, I guess, embedded in the first half?

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I mean, we're not going to break it out in that detail, but we do have inflation in the first half of the year, you know, just given the different aspects of our input costs.

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Rafe Jadrosich
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, that's helpful. Thank you.

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Ray.

speaker
Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Phil Ong from Jefferies. Please go ahead with your question.

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Phil Ong
Analyst, Jefferies

Hey, guys. I think it's more of a recent practice, but any color on how much you buy head in Europe on the gas side of things? And Were you able to lock in some of that price before the war? And then, Jeff, I think in 2022, some of your competitors in Italy had some issues on the gas side of things, and Italy is a big importer of LNG. Are any of your competitors having trouble sourcing energy? Are they hedged? I was a little surprised when they commented that pricing in Europe for ceramics was a bit more muted.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, we did buy gas before it went up. We continue to buy gas at the period and we continue to make decisions of what to buy on a going forward basis to reduce the volatility of the European gas prices. We'll have to see what happens in the marketplace with the inventories and the gas prices and the volatility. If the gas keeps going up, the industry will have to respond to it as we go through. Other areas around the world, like India, where they don't have enough natural gas, they've cut back the industry and the ceramic production, we believe, is off almost by 80% because they don't have the gas to do it. That should also create opportunities as we go around.

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Phil Ong
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay, that's helpful. On the North American carpet, I believe you and your biggest competitor have a large concentration and share. There's a bunch of smaller guys. Give us some perspective. How does the cost curve look for carpet in the U.S. between the two of you guys? And does that drop off pretty hard? And just given where raws are kind of shaping up and then back F, if you don't see much traction, I mean, are some of these smaller guys like cash flow negative, like, you know, operating at a loss? And how would you guys kind of stack up in that situation as well?

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Paul DeCock
President and Chief Operating Officer

Yeah, thank you for the question. The market is soft in carpet in general. Remodeling and new construction sales have slowed significantly. We've announced the price increases to cover the inflation. We're introducing the new products to also improve our mix, and we're taking further actions to cut our costs. And carpet volumes we expect should improve as the market recovers.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

There has been some limited capacity taken out of the industry by us and others, and there have been some smaller ones to go out, but not enough to change anything.

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Phil Ong
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. All right. Thank you so much.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Phil.

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Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Sam Reed from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead with your question.

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Trevor Allenson
Analyst, Wolf Research

Thanks so much, guys. I just wanted to circle back to the prepared remarks. I heard a comment about your order backlog growing. I'm just curious, is that restricted to any particular end markets or categories? We'd just love some additional context there. And then I also heard a comment about some of your channel partners reducing inventories. So perhaps two things that might be a little diametrically opposed there, just want to flush those out.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks. Let's see. Well, first, as we came into the new year, the expectations for we and the entire industry was greater than it turned out with the war. So as we came into the year, there were channels that started lowering some of their inventories as we started into the year. The backlog, as we've gone through, what we've said is the trends of our business from March to April haven't changed. The incoming orders are similar to those. The backlog has actually increased in April, and so we don't see any dramatic change in it. Now, on the other side, when you have price increases like we're having, there is some pull forward of it, but we don't have enough view into the inventories of our customers to know how much that is.

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Trevor Allenson
Analyst, Wolf Research

That's helpful. And maybe switching gears, it's great to hear the commercial and market strength, maybe just restricting the question to the U.S. In the past, you've called out institutions and hospitality as areas where you've been growing. Just curious, what's the latest on commercial and markets, and where are the areas where you're seeing the most strength? Thanks.

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Paul DeCock
President and Chief Operating Officer

Yes, so around the world, we see the commercial channel continuing to outperform residential. And so the segments that are performing better would be the hospitality segment, education segment, and also healthcare and government are doing well. And so to increase specifications, we are expanding our showrooms, product features, and specialized sales forces to go after those segments.

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Trevor Allenson
Analyst, Wolf Research

All helpful context, I'll pass it on. Thanks.

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Paul DeCock
President and Chief Operating Officer

Thanks, Sam.

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Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Colin Burin from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead with your question.

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Colin Burin
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thanks for taking my question. I just want to follow up there on the April backlog building. Is that across the portfolio, or are you seeing pockets of weakness and strength just given what's going on in the Middle East? I thought it sounded like there was probably a little bit of caution, so maybe some downside into volume trends into April, but it sounds like they're building. I guess just any clarification there would be helpful.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

It's generally across all the businesses. The backlogs are generally higher than they were a month or so ago. And, again, we're having difficulty separating the ongoing business trends from inventory changes in the customers, and we're not going to be able to know that for a while.

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Colin Burin
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, that's helpful. And then just following up on the natural gas, Is there any way to help us understand how much of the gas you have already hedged for this year versus how much you'll need to buy just to service sort of production levels for the remainder of the year?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

It's different by business. It's different by country. In some countries, you can't do it. The country purchased it, and the price is the same. In other countries, we can purchase ahead, so it's not as simplistic an answer as you'd like to have.

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spk18

Understood. Thank you, and good luck.

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Jamie
Conference Operator

Thanks, Collin. And our next question comes from Mike Dahl from RBC. Please go ahead with your question.

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Mike Dahl
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hi, this is Mike. Just a follow-up on the near-term demand comments. What are you guys specifically assuming in the 2Q guide in terms of demand trends? It sounds like it's more the same from what you've seen in April and then on that order backlog comment and the sequential increase. Is there any way you could help frame that on a year-over-year basis?

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, thanks, Mike. So, you know, again, we're really assuming that the present demand trends continue through the second quarter, and there's a limited impact from the conflict. Market volumes have been declining now for a little while, and so we don't expect any big change in Q2.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

At this point, we haven't seen a decrease in the sales and order trends. And we're going to have the impact of the increasing prices as we go through starting the second quarter and ramping up in the third quarter. And we just have to see how things evolve. The real question, which we all have to answer, is what's going to happen to the consumer confidence and spending patterns given the inflation that's coming through the marketplace? And how is the consumer going to react? We're all going to get to find out together

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Mike Dahl
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Fair enough. I guess just on that, from all the pricing that you've announced, are there regions or products where you can rank order where you think you have the most pricing power versus the least? Or if it's easier just by segment when we think about modeling the pricing talent?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I'm not sure there's a dramatic difference in any of them. The biggest differences would be the amount of inflation based on how big the cost increases impact each product category. And then it may sound different. The ones with the highest ones may be the easiest because the industry has to force through more. Is it on the other side, as we said earlier, the imported products with long backlog, with long supply chains, those product categories, it's going to take a while before the chemical costs flow through it, but they're going to flow through it.

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spk18

Understood. Appreciate the call. All right. Thanks.

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Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Rahut from JPMorgan. Please go ahead with your question.

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Michael Rahut
Analyst, JPMorgan

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. First question, I just wanted to circle back to the price increases relative to the cost inflation that you expect to see in the back half. Just wanted to be sure of two things. First, When you talk about the cost increases, it's the ones that you've already announced in April, mid to high single digits. If that's really, at this point, what we're talking about. And second, as you see the cost inflation today, are the price increases sufficient to offset the back half cost inflation?

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, Mike, I think... Again, our pricing that we've announced, along with other cost actions, are intended to offset the higher costs. We have announced mid to high single digits across most of our categories. And then as inflation is really changing daily and weekly, we will adjust and adapt as we go through the second half of the year. But our intent is to pass them through.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

If possible, we'll have to announce additional price increases

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spk19

if the things keep inflating.

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Michael Rahut
Analyst, JPMorgan

Right, right, okay. And I guess, you know, the second question just on, you know, mix. If you're seeing any green shoots of mix, I'm really thinking about North America here, ceramic and North America flooring. how do you characterize the mixed trends in residential? Have they improved at all? And could this be, you know, any help at all as well in the back half as you combat some other margin pressures?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Let me try to frame it. The consumers today, the higher end consumer has more money and is spending more. So that's helping on one side. On the other side, The guys in the middle are either postponing or trading down, and there is huge pressure in the builder market to put in low-cost products in order to keep the prices of the homes. So you have both things going at the same time. I think that the people with money will continue to spend. We talked to some of our retailers. They say some of them have the traffic slower, but the people coming in are spending more money. So... We're going to have to see how the whole thing evolves. A lot of it's really around consumer confidence and how they react to all this stuff.

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spk19

We could show you some help from some positive comments out of our leadership.

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Michael Rahut
Analyst, JPMorgan

All right. Thank you very much. Thanks, Mike.

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Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Keith Hughes from Truist. Please go ahead with your question.

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Keith Hughes
Analyst, Truist

Thank you. Yes. Last time we saw this kind of inflation a couple years ago during COVID, you saw some pretty significant hit on VIX. Is there anything that's changed in the industry or any reason we wouldn't feel at least some of that pressure? These are pretty significant price increases you're talking about.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

It's possible that we could see some declining VIX in a piece, but we're raising all the product categories to cover it. But it's not abnormal that some of the customers trade down. Given the As I said before, the higher-end customers have money, so it's not going to affect them. So the higher end of the business has been doing better, but it is possible there will be some mixed decline as people try to maintain budgets.

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Keith Hughes
Analyst, Truist

Okay, and we talked a lot about price increases and cost increases on this call. Is carpet where you're seeing the biggest inflation coming right now just based on the fibers that you use

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Paul DeCock
President and Chief Operating Officer

No, we see inflation across the board in all the different categories, and we have all the chemical input costs going up with similar levels, and as that filters through, we'll have to take up the prices. And then in Europe, we see higher increases, like we said. The impact of energy in Europe is much more significant, and so in some of our product categories, we see much higher impacts than on the flooring side, and we are acting appropriately.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Okay, thank you. If I had to pick one that was highest, we have in Europe a polyurethane installation business, and the chemicals are a large part of it, and there are some shortages in the marketplace. So, I mean, we're putting through really significant increases in the category along with the competitors in the marketplace.

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spk19

Okay, thank you.

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Jamie
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Matthew Bully from Barclays. Please go ahead with your question.

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Anika Delacquia
Analyst, Barclays (on behalf of Matthew Bully)

Good morning. You have Anika Delacquia on for Matt today. Thank you for taking my questions. So first off, we've seen industry peers announce price increases over the past few months, but as they too see some degree of incremental cost inflation, have you seen a continuation in discipline pricing across the industry, or is there evidence of share gain coming at the expense of price, either for Mohawk or competitors across LVT, carpet, and ceramic?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks. The increases are flowing through the marketplace. It takes a while to go through. We will not see the full impact of them for another few weeks or even more. So we'll have to see. But so far, we're seeing more discipline than normal given the amounts of the increases. Everybody needs more to cover the costs.

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Anika Delacquia
Analyst, Barclays (on behalf of Matthew Bully)

Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. And then second, I wanted to talk a little bit more about the setup in Europe. You mentioned Europe has understandably become, it's more impacted following the Middle East conflict. Any color in the trends you guys are seeing since last quarter, specifically are consumers deferring projects or is it more a function of mix down? Thanks.

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Paul DeCock
President and Chief Operating Officer

The market was showing some improvements in January following the multiple rate cuts that the European Central Bank had executed. But after the start of the war, consumer confidence declined. and so that reduced the discretionary spend in the market. As we discussed, energy prices are higher in Europe. They're causing greater inflation and we'll have to push up the prices more. But consumers have record savings and mortgage rates are much lower in Europe, and that should support growth as the confidence come back.

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Anika Delacquia
Analyst, Barclays (on behalf of Matthew Bully)

That's helpful. Thank you.

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Jamie
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brian. Byros from TRG, please go ahead with your question.

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Trevor Allenson
Analyst, Wolf Research

Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions today. I guess how quickly can you pass on price in today's market relative to previous price increases? Inflation pressures are well known, but the demand side isn't really there. So curious how those conversations go and kind of just how quickly that can be reflected in today's market once you announce an increase.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

The entire world knows this is going on. Our customers know what's going on. Our competitors have the same pressures we do. So the marketplace understands that it has to happen. And in some cases, it may feel a little easier up to this point or not, but we're not through fully implementing it. On the other side, there is a concern that there's more to come. And so all of those things are affecting the way the industry is acting.

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Trevor Allenson
Analyst, Wolf Research

Okay. And then, you know, margins expanded in Q1. I think that might be the first time in maybe five or six quarters here. So it's nice to see some level of expansion, even after all the restructuring efforts. And, you know, that was on lower volume still. So it feels like there's still going to be pressures for the rest of the year. But do you guys look at Q1 as some type of indicator of kind of what financials you can put up when things start to turn? Kind of putting that in context would be helpful for thinking about Mohawk beyond the next few quarters. Thank you.

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think Q1, the market conditions were still very pressured. And so we think that looking forward in the near term, our margins will depend on how the conflict evolves. We'll have the inflation, and we're taking price to mitigate it. As Jeff mentioned, consumer confidence could be lowered and could impact volumes. But we're really focused on our productivity and restructuring efforts. to lower our costs, and we do believe that over the long term, there's a potential for margins to grow from here.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

As we started earlier, we talked about potential good outcomes and bad outcomes. Either one's still possible, and we have to be prepared to adapt to either one.

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spk18

We're hoping for the best.

speaker
Jamie
Conference Operator

And our next question comes from David McGregor from Longbow Research. Please go ahead with your question.

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David McGregor

Yes, good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking my questions. I guess I wanted to focus on the commercial business for a moment, and maybe it's a strategic question, Jeff, but just given the relative resilience of the commercial businesses, as well as maybe a different competitive structure and more opportunities for growth in that market segment, have you considered allocating capital to the expansion of that side of your business and bringing the residential commercial mix more into balance?

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

The commercial business is much smaller than the residential business. The opportunities are much less. So achieving at the same market shares, the commercial business is dramatically smaller than the other. With that, we continue to invest more money in product innovation. In the commercial market, it's easier to sell and promote features and benefits that are differentiated. So we continue to invest to create differentiated offerings that we can specify in the marketplace. We're investing in more showrooms. We're investing in our sales organization to create more specifications. So we agree with you that it's a good place to be.

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David McGregor

I guess I was sort of asking the question more from an M&A standpoint.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, from M&A, we would... consider the right commercial businesses that fit with ours that we think we can add value to, and their opportunities should arise over time in both the U.S. markets as well as the world markets.

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David McGregor

Got it. Okay. Second question is just the obligatory tariff expense question, I guess. A lot of noise and moving parts on this, but what's your current expectation for 2026 gross tariff expense prior to mitigating actions?

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, the tariffs were reduced significantly. from a few months ago, but really with the inflation occurring because of the conflict, the net effect is our costs are going to increase, and that's why we're taking the pricing adjustments to mitigate the higher costs.

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David McGregor

Okay. You haven't quantified that for the street?

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Nick Manthe
Chief Financial Officer

No. I think the tariff environment is changing, and so we'll see how it evolves.

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David McGregor

Understood. Thanks very much. Thank you.

speaker
Jamie
Conference Operator

And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be concluding today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference call back over to Jeff Loeberbaum for any closing remarks.

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Jeff Oberbaum
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

We've managed global turmoil many times in our history, and it's always followed by an industry recovery. We expect multiple years of above growth trend when it happens this time. As that occurs, our industry, the pricing of margins increase, our mix improves with people buying higher value products. and we get significant leverage off of our cost structures and all the actions we've taken over the past few years. We appreciate you taking the time and being with us today. Thank you very much.

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Jamie
Conference Operator

The conference has now concluded. We thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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