Martin Marietta Materials, Inc.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Martin Marietta's fourth quarter and full year 2020 earnings conference call. All participants are now in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the company's prepared remarks. As a reminder, today's call has been recorded and will be available for the replay on the company's website. I will now turn the call over to your host, Ms. Suzanne Osberg, Martin Marietta's Vice President of Investor Relations. Suzanne, you may begin.

Good morning, and thank you for joining Martin Marietta's fourth quarter and full year 2020 earnings call. With me today are Ward Nye, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Jim Nicholas, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, today's discussion may include forward-looking statements as defined by United States securities laws in connection with future events, future operating results, or financial performance. Like other businesses, Martin Marietta is subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Except as legally required, we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether resulting from new information, future developments, or otherwise. Please refer to the legal disclaimers contained in today's earnings release and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which are available on both our own and the SEC websites. We have made available during this webcast and on the investor relations section of our website, 2020 supplemental information that summarizes our financial results and trends. In addition, any non-GAAP measures disclosed today are defined and reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measure in our earnings release and SEC filings. Ward and I will begin today's earnings call with a discussion of our full-year operating performance. Jim Nicholas will then review our 2020 financial results and liquidity position, after which Ward will discuss market trends and our 2021 outlook. A question and answer session will follow. I will now turn the call over to Ward.

Thank you, Suzanne, and thank you all for joining today's teleconference. We sincerely hope that you and your families remain safe and healthy. By all accounts, 2020 was extraordinary for Martin Marietta, We're proud to have extended our long track record of financial, operational, and safety excellence, particularly in a year filled with unprecedented disruption. Martin Marietta set new performance records, delivering our most profitable year and the best safety performance in our company's history. These impressive results demonstrate our resilient business model and our team's commitment to Martin Marietta's vision and successful execution of our proven strategic operating analysis and review or SOAR plan. As noted, today's discussion focuses on our full-year results and 2021 outlook. Before doing so, I'll highlight a few notable takeaways from our record-setting fourth quarter. Importantly, we achieved solid shipment and pricing growth across all product lines as construction activity stabilized from the spring and summer months when we saw a greater impact from COVID-19. These top-line improvements, along with our steadfast focus on cost controls, resulted in 7 percent growth in consolidated total revenues, 20 percent growth in adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization, or adjusted EBITDA, and a 40 percent increase in diluted earnings per share. For the full year, we established new records for product and services revenues, profitability, and adjusted EBITDA. Specifically, full-year consolidated products and services revenues increased to $4.4 billion. Consolidated gross profit increased 6% to $1.3 billion. Adjusted EBITDA increased 11% to nearly $1.4 billion, and diluted earnings per share was $11.54, an 18% improvement. Martin Marietta's 2020 results marked the ninth consecutive year of growth in these financial metrics. Operating our business safely sets the foundation for our longstanding financial success. Martin Marietta's industry-leading safety performance continues to trend near or exceed world-class safety levels. We achieved a 25% reduction in total reportable incidents across the enterprise in 2020, and for the fourth consecutive year, we achieved a company-wide world-class lost-time incident rate. These superior financial and safety results are directly attributable to the dedication and agility of our nearly 9,000 talented employees. I'm extraordinarily proud of how our team managed the challenges and disruptions caused by the pandemic while remaining focused on being good wingmen, working safely and efficiently together, and seamlessly meeting our diverse stakeholders' needs. With that overview, let's now turn to our full-year operating performance. Aggregate shipments declined 2% to nearly 187 million tons, reflecting anticipated lower infrastructure shipments in portions of North Carolina, reduced energy sector demand, and headwinds from COVID-19 disruptions. However, in line with broader macroeconomic trends, four-year aggregate shipments to the residential market increased, benefiting from healthy single-family housing activity. Aggregate's average selling price increased 4% on a mixed adjusted basis, in line with our expectations. Importantly, all divisions contributed to this solid growth, a testament to this product line's resilient pricing power and our leading market positions in attractive geographies. The disciplined execution of our locally driven pricing strategy, along with attractive underlying market fundamentals, will continue to support sustainable pricing growth moving forward. Our cement operations established new records for shipments, which increased 2% to nearly 4 million tons. Large project activity supported underlying product demand in both north and south Texas throughout the year, offsetting weakness in the energy sector. Pricing increased 3% on a mix-adjusted basis, demonstrating the resilient price fundamentals of core products in the state of Texas. We expect our cement business will continue to benefit from favorable shipment and pricing trends, supported by tight supply and healthy demand in Texas, diversified customer backlogs, and April 2021 price increases. Turning to our targeted downstream businesses, ready-mix concrete shipments increased 3%, excluding shipments from acquired operations and from our Southwest Division's former concrete business in Arkansas, Louisiana, and eastern Texas, which we divested in January 2020. Concrete pricing increased 2%. Our Colorado asphalt and paving business established a new record for asphalt shipments, increasing 15% to 3 million tons. This growth reflected solid underlying product demand together with carryover work following a weather challenge 2019. Asphalt pricing increased nearly 3%. I'll now turn the call over to Jim to discuss more specifically our full-year financial results and liquidity. Jim?

Thank you, Ward, and good morning to everyone. We've concluded 2020 with the highest full-year adjusted EBITDA margin in Martin Marietta's history. Driving this achievement was our building materials business, which delivered record products and services revenues of $4.2 billion, a 1% increase, and record product gross profit of $1.2 billion, a 7% increase. Our upstream materials businesses, namely aggregates and cement, established all-time records for both full-year product revenues and gross profit. Aggregates' product gross margin expanded 130 basis points to 30.6 percent, a new record, and unit profitability improved 8 percent. These accomplishments, which resulted from strong pricing gains, disciplined cost management, and lower diesel fuel costs, demonstrate the cost flexibility and resiliency of our aggregates-led business. The cement business benefited from the planned kiln maintenance outage that occurred through the end of 2019. The timing of that outage resulted in some expenses being recognized in 2019 versus early in 2020. More importantly, that and other capital investments have dramatically improved our cement operations. We achieved 90% kiln reliability this year, up from 82% in 2019, which facilitated increased throughput and fixed cost absorption at both our Midlothian and Hunter plants. These factors, combined with mixed adjusted pricing strength and lower fuel costs, contributed to the 510 basis point improvement in cement product gross margin to 37.8%. Our targeted downstream businesses also delivered solid four-year financial results. Ready Mix Concrete product gross margin increased 10 basis points to 8.4%. as pricing growth offset high raw material costs. Aspult and Pating achieved gross profit of $60 million and a 100 basis point improvement in gross margin driven by double-digit revenue growth. Our magnesia specialties business returned to revenue and profitability growth during the fourth quarter. The 12 percent top-line improvement in the quarter, however, was not enough to offset demand decline experienced earlier in the year. As a result, full-year product revenues decreased 12 percent to $221 million. We anticipate fourth quarter strength in lime and chemicals demand to continue in 2021 now that steel utilization has rebounded from last summer's COVID-19 driven trough and our cobalt customers are resuming activity. Impressively, product gross margin improved 80 basis points to 40.6 percent as we proactively responded to lower shipments with effective cost control measures. Turning now to cash generation, capital allocation, and liquidity. Martin Marietta ended 2020 with the strongest cash generation in our history. Operating cash flow of $1.05 billion increased 9% driven by earnings growth. We continue to balance our longstanding disciplined capital allocation priorities to responsibly grow our business while maintaining a healthy balance sheet and preserving financial flexibility to further enhance shareholder value. our priorities remain focused on the value-enhancing acquisitions, prudent organic capital investment, and the consistent return of capital to shareholders while maintaining our investment-grade rating profile. For 2020, we invested $360 million of capital into our business and returned $190 million to shareholders through both an increased dividend and the first quarter repurchase of 211,000 shares of our common stock. In August 2020, our board approved a 4% increase in our quarterly cash dividend, underscoring its continued confidence in our future performance and continuing Mark Meredith's track record of dividend growth. Since our repurchase authorization announcement in February 2015, we have returned more than $1.8 billion to shareholders through a combination of meaningful and sustainable dividends as well as share repurchases. We ended 2020 with a debt to EBITDA ratio of 1.9 times, slightly lower target leverage range of 2 to 2.5 times, which offers us the flexibility to pursue creative investment opportunities. Our solid balance sheet, combined with $1.1 billion of availability on our credit facilities, provides the financial strength for Martin Marietta to respond to the execute on disciplined capital allocation priorities and continue profitably growing our business. With that, I will turn the call back over to Ward to discuss our 2021 outlook.

Thanks, Jim. Looking ahead, we believe 2021 will be a year in which we see a return to a more normalized state as underlying demand fundamentals reset and the nation's economy regains momentum. We remain confident in Martin Marietta's attractive business drivers and are encouraged by accelerating long-term secular trends across our three primary end-use markets and key geographies. We expect these trends to drive construction-led aggregates intensive growth. Infrastructure activity particularly for aggregates-intensive highways, roads, and streets, continues to prove resilient. With the one-year extension of the Fixing America's Surface Transportation Act, or FAST Act, at current funding levels, state and local governments have the visibility needed to plan, design, and award transportation projects through the 2021 construction season. Importantly, estimated fiscal 2021 lettings for our top five departments of transportation, or DOTs, are currently above or near prior year levels. Keep in mind, our top five states, Texas, Colorado, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida, are disproportionately important to us, representing 71% of our 2020 building materials business total revenues. Additionally, DOTs were recently granted nearly $10 billion of targeted relief as part of the Coronavirus Response and Relief Act passed in December 2020, to help offset pandemic-driven transportation revenue shortfalls. This funding assistance has the benefit of no state matching requirements. Based on preliminary estimates, over $2 billion of this assistance will be apportioned to Martin Marietta's top five states. Over the medium to long term, we anticipate voter-approved state and local transportation measures and passage of a comprehensive federal transportation program package to promote multi-year growth in product demand. In November 2020, voters sent a powerful message of support for state and local transportation investment, approving 94% of ballot measures, the highest ever approval rating. These initiatives are estimated to generate an additional $14 billion in one time and recurring transportation funding, of which 82% is in Texas, our top revenue-generating state. Bipartisan support exists for new surface transportation legislation aimed at increasing funding levels not seen in over 15 years, with both the United States House of Representatives and Senate previously advancing proposed bills. We believe this 117th Congress creates a path toward advancing a notable increase in funding over the FAST Act. We're optimistic that agreement on a new bill could be reached this summer, generating meaningful benefits in 2022 and beyond. We expect increased infrastructure investment to provide volume stability and drive aggregate shipments in that end use closer to a 10-year historical average of 43 percent of our total shipments. For reference, aggregate shipments to the infrastructure market accounted for 36 percent of 2020 shipments. Nonresidential construction should continue to benefit from accelerating e-commerce and remote work trends that require increased investment in heavy industrial warehouses and data centers, particularly in our key metros of Dallas-Fort Worth, San Antonio, Austin, Denver, Des Moines, Indianapolis, Charlotte, and Atlanta. Importantly, This type of construction tends to be more aggregates intensive than light commercial construction due to the size, scale, and structure of these projects. Light commercial and retail construction will remain comparatively challenged until COVID-19 vaccines are more widely distributed. Over the longer term, light non-residential activity will benefit from the attractive collateral effects of strong single-family residential trends. Aggregate shipments to the non-residential market accounted for 34 percent of 2020 shipments. Single-family housing is poised for multi-year growth, returning to more normalized levels during this economic cycle. We believe Martin Marietta's leading southeastern and southwestern footprint positions the company to be a notable beneficiary of these trends given underbuilt conditions, favorable population and employment dynamics, land availability, mild climates, and lower costs of living in these regions. Single-family housing is two to three times more aggregates-intensive than multifamily construction, given the ancillary non-residential and infrastructure needs of new suburban communities. Aggregates to the residential market accounted for 24% of 2020 shipments. In summary, we're confident in the fundamental strength and underlying drivers of our business. As disclosed in today's release, we've returned to providing full-year annual guidance. We currently expect 2021 aggregate shipment growth to range from up 1 to up 4 percent, reflecting single-family housing strength, expanded infrastructure investment, and heavy industrial projects of scale that will support our near-term shipment levels. we remain confident that our favorable pricing trends are sustainable, supported by improved contractor confidence and healthy customer backlogs. For 2021, we expect annual aggregates price increases, which become effective from January 1 to April 1, to increase in a range of up 3 to up 5%. Combined with contributions from our cement, downstream, and magnesia specialties businesses on a consolidated basis, we expect adjusted EBITDA of $1,350,000,000 to $1,450,000,000. Keep in mind, when comparing this guidance range to prior year, we're not anticipating the same level of nonrecurring gains from land sales and divested surplus assets as seen in 2020. To conclude, we're proud of our 2020 record financial results and industry-leading safety performance. We're also extremely optimistic about our future. Martin Marietta has a strong foundation thanks to our solid balance sheet and the investments we've made in our assets, people, and capabilities. Due to our work over the last several years, Martin Marietta is uniquely well positioned to capitalize on the emerging growth trends that are expected to support steady and sustainable construction activity over the long term. Importantly, the disciplined execution of our strategic plan, coupled with our pricing discipline, operational excellence, prudent capital allocation, and adherence to robust health protocols will continue to enhance Martin Marietta's solid foundation for enduring success. As we move forward, we have the resources, team, and capabilities to drive value-enhancing growth. We're confident in Martin Marietta's opportunities to build on our successful track record of strong financial, operational, and safety performance and remain focused on delivering superior returns for investors while meeting and exceeding our commitments to our other stakeholders, including our customers, employees, and communities. If the operator will now provide the required instructions, we will turn our attention to addressing your questions.

Thank you, sir. As a reminder, to ask a question, you would need to press star 1 on your telephone. To withdraw your question, please press the pound key. In order to get through everyone's question, we ask that you please limit yourselves to one question. Please stand by while we populate the Q&A roster. I show our first question. It comes from the line of Catherine Thompson from Thompson Research Group. Please go ahead.

Hi. Thank you for taking my question today and nice results today given a tough market. I wanted to focus on cement. If you could discuss the pricing dynamics you saw in the quarter, and importantly, your thoughts on both volume and pricing going forward, and then just really kind of a follow-up related to cement somewhat, which is more on infrastructure. Do you see any potential air pockets and lettings given reduced revenues, and when might that be seen, if ever, and how might that impact cement volumes and also aggregate volumes? Thank you very much.

Well, Happy New Year to you, Catherine. That's a mouthful. We'll walk through it. And let's talk about cemented pricing first. Number one, to see the cement price performance in Texas this year. was actually affirming. If we go back over time and remember how we spoke about cement when we acquired it with TXI, we indicated we believed Texas cement pricing would start to act like aggregate pricing. That's exactly what we saw in this quarter. What I think is doubly important about that and impressive, keep in mind for much of the year we were not in a position to go and see our customers, so to see that type of performance on a mixed adjusted basis is actually quite impressive. Keep in mind, too, although you don't see it in the numbers, If we're looking at type 1 and type 2 cement, that was actually selling for closer to 4% up as opposed to 3% up. So if we're really looking at the bread and butter products, it looks really quite impressive. If we look at overall cement dynamics in the state, Texas is a nice place to be in any heavyside building materials business because particularly for cement right now, demand increases. We think that's particularly going to be the case as we go through the year in north Texas this year. So, again, that feeds directly into our operations in Midlothian. Equally, the marketplace that we're seeing around Hunter is actually quite attractive as well. What we see from a volume perspective has been driven by a series of things. One, by some big jobs. So, in the north, we're seeing Loop 12. We're seeing I-635, which is also known as the OBJ. If you go down toward south Texas, what's going on relative to the Grand Parkway? has been nicely generative or utilizing cement and ready mix and aggregates and all the way through. So we think the outlook is, frankly, as good as we just saw in Q4. If you're looking really more to what potential air pockets could be, I'll tell you very candidly, in Texas we don't see it, Catherine. A couple of things lead me to believe that. One, the FY21 bloodings in Texas are actually 25% over where they were last year. In other words, we're looking for about $9.5 billion worth of bloodings. The other two pieces to keep in mind is the 2021 revenue streams that we're seeing either coming through Prop 7 and Prop 1 in Texas are really quite healthy. So we're looking at transfers. of about $2.5 billion this year relative to Prop 7 and about $1.2 billion relative to Prop 1. Something else that's worth keeping in mind, too, is when we were looking at the COVID relief that's gone to different DOTs, TxDOT was the recipient of almost $914 million. Again, we spoke to the fact that those did not come encumbered with any particular state match. So, for a state that already found itself in a very good position, to have that extra money come in as well gives us a sense that we're in a very, very good place. As an ultimate reminder, Texas has a rainy day fund of $10.5 billion that they have not tapped. So as we're looking at Texas both near-term, medium-term, and long-term, we like very much what we see. So I hope that's responsive to your series of questions, Catherine.

Yes, thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David McGregor from Longbow Research.

Please go ahead. Yes. Good morning, everyone. Congratulations, Ward, on a really good quarter.

David, thank you very much.

And a good outlook statement as well. It's nice to see guidance again. Just staying on cement, I guess, how are you thinking about, you know, the guide that you're providing, the 460 to 500? What have you got for price versus volume in there? If you could help me with that and And also it appears that maybe there's limited operating leverage in that guidance as well. And I'm just wondering if that's maybe some of the kiln expenses from 2020 that got pulled into 2019, if those come back, and maybe that's weighing a little bit on the leverage. And just if I could also add to that, you know, you must be feeling some pinch points in terms of capacity and cement at this point. And I'm just wondering how you're thinking longer term about your capacity footprint Do you flex your shipments with import tons, or do you invest capital either organically or through acquisitions and building your capacity? Or maybe you're just happy with what you've got. If you could talk about that. Thank you.

No, happy to. David, thank you very much for your questions. We'll start with respect to pricing. So as we think about pricing in the Texas marketplace today, what we're seeing are price increases out there that have been put out. We put out a $9 a ton price increase effective in April. We've seen others that customers have shown us that have been closer to $6. So I think that gives you at least some bullies to think about relative to pricing for the year. I think equally as we look at the likelihood of price increases hitting in different percentages, clearly North Texas is going to look stronger than South Texas is. Central is going to be just fine. I think to your point, if it's going to be tight anywhere this year on cement tonnage, it's likely more in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, meaning Midlothian. And so we'll just have to watch that as the year goes on. One thing I would ask you to do, and that is you asked a very good question around capacity in Texas, because you're going back to the notion that right now demand is outstripping supply. As you know, we have an analyst and investor day that's coming up later this month. We're going to talk about some of the very specific capital initiatives that we have underway, and I would ask you to wait and listen to what we have to say about that particular process when we're talking to you live later in the month relative to our cement outlook and our aggregates outlook in Texas. With respect to some of the other numbers that you mentioned, you're entirely right relative to rhythm and cadence. around kiln maintenance. We did have a relatively lower number of kiln maintenance in 2020. If we're looking at the overall kiln maintenance spend in 2020, it was about $19.7 million. As we're looking to see what it's going to be into the new year, we are looking at a number that's going to be somewhat higher than that. We're looking more at about a $22.7 million number for total kiln maintenance in 2021. And so we're looking at some of those puts and takes, but I think that gives you a sense of do we have capacity issues that we need to think about longer or medium term? Yeah, we do. Are we in a circumstance that pricing is doing what we thought it would? It absolutely is. Are the dollars that we put into the kilns having them run at a higher rate of efficiency? There's no doubt that they are. So if we're looking at kiln reliability, as Jim commented in his commentary, They ran at 90% kiln reliability, and the year just ended. The year before, it was at 82%. So we like very much the way that business is going operationally, the way that business is going commercially, and what we feel like its future is. So, David, I hope that was responsive to your question.

It was. Thanks very much, and congrats on all the progress.

David, thank you so much.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Troy Grooms from Stevens, Inc. Please go ahead.

Good morning. Good morning, Charles. Thanks for taking my questions, Ward. So I guess first off, you know, and I'm looking at the volume guidance for aggregates, and, you know, I appreciate your color and comments on the end markets. But, you know, especially on the infrastructure piece, you sound maybe more constructive on that side than we've heard in a while. First, I mean, I want to make sure I'm hearing that right. because I'm hearing that you're expecting increased demand versus 20. And with that mix becoming closer to the historic average, even directionally that way, implies, you know, decent volume growth in that end market. I know you mentioned some details around Texas, but could you touch on some of the other markets you're in, where you're seeing the strength that's given you that growth? you know, increased confidence in that end market.

No, happy to, Trey. Thank you very much. As you indicated, we've walked through what some of the numbers look like in Texas. As Jim indicated in his prepared remarks, if we look at Texas, Colorado, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida, those states comprise around 71% of our revenue. So if those states are going well, a lot of things good happens for Martin Marietta. As I indicated, I won't go back through all the details that we hit, but we're looking at Texas lettings up 25%. Let's go through the others, and I think that will give you a sense of why we've got the degree of confidence that we do. Colorado, which, as you know, in 20, had just a spectacular year. I mean, you heard us reference the fact that our asphalt and paving business in that state had a record year. We're looking at a DOT program in Colorado that we believe is going to be flat year over year. And what I'm about to tell you is when we're looking at our top five states, if the worst that we're seeing anywhere is flat, that's not a bad place to be coming off of a record year. So if we're looking at the $10 billion COVID stimulus, about $134 million of those dollars is finding its way to Colorado, which we believe is bringing their DOT program up about even with where it was last year. Now, by contrast, our home state, North Carolina did not have a particularly good year last year. We think North Carolina DOT is in a far better position. And as you know, if we look at this state historically, it has not only been one of our most profitable, it's been one of our most consistent as well. So, we think North Carolina is trending back into an area that makes much more sense for us. To give you a sense of what that means, the FY21 lettings projection is about $1.3 billion. That's $670 million better than I think people would have expected when they were looking at it last year. The other thing that's important to keep in mind is North Carolina did issue $700 million of billed NC bonds. So, again, as we're looking at the near-term future of North Carolina, we're really very pleased with that. One thing I will mention as well, the NC First Commission, which I was a part of here in North Carolina, looked at really how North Carolina needs to think about its investment in infrastructure over the next 10 years. And our view was they needed to put at least $20 billion more in infrastructure in the state. So the state is looking at ways to do that. But that's clearly longer term than just this year. If we go to Georgia, again, we think Georgia is relatively flat year over year. But if you look at where that state has been sequentially, if we go back to 2016, You'll see a budget that's gone from about $1.7 billion to one that's about $2.1 billion. And then the other thing to keep in mind is Georgia still has ahead of it the major mobility investment program, and the overall goal of that is to have a number of very large projects, about $12 billion to be more specific, underway by 2025 and completed by 2030. And then, of course, the last of the top five states is Florida. They're looking at their spending to increase about 20% year over year. So, again, if we look at the top five, Texas is better, North Carolina is better, Florida is better, and Colorado and Georgia are broadly flat. So when we look at that type of trajectory on something that's around 71% of our revenues in those states, I think that's part of what gives us the confidence that we have in the volume outlook that we've operated.

All right. Thank you for that, Ward. If I could sneak one in just for clarity. You know, there was a question about the cement and the maintenance, and you talked about, you know, some color around that and some details, which was helpful. On the ag side, Jim, this might be for you. Is there anything there, you know, obviously diesel is not going to be the tailwind you experienced, you know, in 20, but is there any other costs outside of diesel coming off a year like 2020 when You know, I mean, from a margin and cost standpoint, you and the team did a great job there. Is there any catch-up on costs that are baked into your guide or anything we should be aware of on that front?

Yeah, good question, Trey. Now, we are anticipating otherwise hitting our 60% incremental target for next year, but for the diesel headwind. So our incremental is around 40% because of diesel. We've got about $30 million of higher expense from higher oil prices coming through, and we would add 60% but for that. But otherwise, our costs are well-behaved. We're expecting them to be sort of well-controlled as they were in 2020. We expect that to continue. Hold on to the gains we saw in 2020 and build on those in 2021.

All right. Thanks a lot. Appreciate the color, and good luck with the rest of the quarter. Thank you. Thanks.

Thank you, Trey.

Thank you. I sure next question comes from the line of Anthony Petanari from Citi. Please go ahead.

Good morning. Ward on the full year outlook, is there any way we should think about the quarterly cadence of volume growth implied in the guidance? Do you still expect kind of sharper year over year volume declines in the first half and kind of inflecting into the second half or any kind of, you know, finer point you can put on that?

You know, as we look at it, and I think part of what you heard us say earlier, I mean, we're back to the point that we put in full guidance again. So I think that gives you a sense that we've all found a way to manage through this. And I think to that end, Anthony, what I would suggest is a normal rhythm and cadence is probably broadly the right way to think about this. I do think there's going to be a degree to which you'll see some of it that in the back half as opposed to the front half. Obviously, Q2 and particularly Q3 were the two quarters that were most impacted by COVID. By the time we got to Q4, in many respects, we had a lot of this figured out, and certainly we had more favorable weather in Q4. So I would look broadly at a rather normal rhythm and cadence, slightly heavier toward half two as opposed to half one. I hope that's helpful.

No, that's very helpful. And then, I mean, to your point, I mean, the volumes have held up better than expected over the last 12 months. In terms of what could get you to the high end or the low end of that 1% to 4% aggregates volume guide, you know, is private commercial, is that the biggest question mark for you? Or do you think residential could slow down in the second half? Are there any particular states? I'm just wondering if there's maybe a few you know, swing factors for you when you think about 2021 that could get you to the high end or the low end?

That's a great question. Here's how I would caption that. I think we've got a good sense of what public is going to look like, and we think public is going to look better. I think we have a good sense of what residential is going to look like, and residential is going to look better, and residential is particularly going to look better with respect to single family. We believe single family as a percentage of overall housing, will return to more normalized percentages. In other words, it's going to be about 80 percent of housing in the United States. And when we see single-family housing at a million starts or 1.1 or 1.2, I will tell you that's a pretty healthy place for our business because here's what happens. That's evidence of new neighborhoods being built. And so, if you think about two cities that are important to us, think about Atlanta and think about Dallas. Both tend to be north-south cities. both tend to be growing more north than south. So what that means is years ago you were growing north from Dallas to Plano, now you're growing north from Dallas to Frisco, and now you're going to be moving north from Frisco to north of Frisco. As we see new communities come in in Frisco or as they go into Alpharetta or other places north of Atlanta, new communities need the follow-on effect that you get in non-residential. Now, history tells us, depending on geography, that can have a six to, let's call it, an 18-month lag behind it. If we're seeing single-family growth in communities and you've got a six-month lag on that, that can start pushing you toward the higher end of our volume guidance. Because if we think about the different end uses, infrastructure is going to be better. Residential is going to be better, particularly single-family. As we land on non-res, as we said, comparatively the toughest of the three induces. The heavy side of that we believe is going to be good, with warehousing, data, et cetera, all of which are very aggregates intensive. So some of the swing side to the upper end of that is going to be relative to the drag along effect of the light portion of non-res that we believe will follow continued single family growth. That was a mouthful, and I apologize if that was a mouthful, but I hope that was followable.

No, that's very helpful. I'll turn it over.

Very good. Thank you, Anthony.

Thank you. As a reminder, we ask that you please limit yourselves to one question. I show our next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Yes, hi. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Jerry. Ward, I'm wondering if you could talk about how active your M&A pipeline is at this point and, you know, how much is uncertainty around what tax rates could look like? How is that playing into your appetite for M&A and the overall impact on the M&A market as you see it?

Jerry, thanks for the question. What I would say is if you look at what M&A has done for Martin Marietta through the SOAR years, and by that I mean from 2010 to date, M&A has been our preferred methodology of growth. It has served us and our owners well. We think it will continue to serve us well. When we think about M&A, we think about it in a long-term strategic view. At the same time, we're not going to go into transactions that we know are not going to be near-term attractive deals for us either. In fairness, typically we're not going to take tax rates much into account in the way that we're looking at M&A because we feel like getting the right deal in the right market is the most important thing that we can do for our company near-term and long-term. It allows our teams to grow. It allows our company to grow. It lets us grow into markets that we think will be attractive. And at the end of the day, we believe we can have leading positions. As you recall, we have a leading position in 90% of our markets today. Ten years ago, we had a leading position in 65% of our markets. We're going to be looking at M&A through two different lenses. We're going to be looking at it in bolt-on acquisitions and markets that we currently exist in. But equally, we will look at potential platform acquisitions in markets in which we would like to grow. As a reminder, and we've not been shy about this, we've long talked about the 2050 regional planning that shows what growth is going to look like in the United States between now and 2050. And the short answer is the country is going to add about 140 million people over that time period, and 70% of them will land in one of 11 megaregions. And so if you watch the megaregions and see what Where they are, if you look at our footprint, the likelihood is we will continue to want to be focused in those mega regions, either with bolt-ons or with platforms. Relative to our M&A pipeline and our team, they would like to sleep more, but the short answer is they're very busy people right now. They're very talented people, and we're very grateful for them. And our intention is to do all that we can to keep them tired and hungry.

Good. Maybe you can send him a cup of coffee. Thank you. You bet.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nishu Sud from UBS. Please go ahead.

Thank you. So I wanted to ask about, you know, this has obviously been an unusually volatile time for the industry. coming off a quarter in which volumes were, you know, quite affected by the pandemic. Do you think there was any effect in 4Q of maybe, you know, some deferrals, you know, projects that might have been affected by the pandemic being completed in 4Q? And obviously with the milder weather, it would have been conducive to that. Do you think that had any effect on 4Q?

Issue number one, welcome back. It's good to hear your voice. Number two, with respect to your question, I'm sure that we would be naive not to assume that there was some that would have been pushed into Q4 simply because Q3 would have been more impacted and the weather was favorable. So I think that's certainly a possibility. What I think we saw more of, though, was the build of some momentum and some nice momentum going into four. Experience tells me that contractors are finishing a year in which they don't have good confidence in the next year. rather than hurry up, they tend to slow down because they want to make sure that they have plenty of work for their workforces as they come into a new year. So what I would say to you is I think that's certainly possible an issue, but I equally think what we're seeing, particularly relative to single-family housing and what's tending to follow it, and then the overall health of the DOTs in the states in which we're operating, I think those are coalescing to give nice momentum in for that we believe persists into 21. Got you.

Makes sense. Thank you so much.

Thank you, Nishu.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Phil NG from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, everyone, and congrats on a really impressive quarter. So, thank you. Ward, can you provide a little more color on bidding activity and how your backlogs are shaping up broadly? But certainly, any color, particularly on non-res and maybe some of these energy projects that you have talked about in the past that may have gotten pushed out? Are you seeing some of that come back as well?

Phil, thanks so much for your question. What I would say is, you know, the customer backlogs are looking fairly similar in many respects to where they were last year. One thing that's worth remembering is the backlogs really at this time of year for customers only represent about 20% to 35% of what people really think their shipment needs are going to be. But what I would say is overall aggregate tons are modestly up as we talk to our customers right now. If we look at cement tons, they're actually up double digits right now. If we look at magnesia specialties, they're actually up double digits as well. So I think part of what's important to remember, Phil, as we're going into 2021, Two parts of our business that have historically been very good, steady parts of our business, meaning North Carolina and Magnesia Specialties, did not have the best years in 20 and are both looking at considerably better years coming into the year in 21. So as we're looking at overall backlogs, they look really quite good for us. The only area that our backlogs are notably off would be in portions of Colorado and And what we're seeing in Colorado, and I think this goes back to your question, is actually right now a very good level of bidding activity in that state. So as we mentioned, we're coming off what was a record year last year in Colorado, and we anticipated coming into 21, they would almost have to be modestly slower. As I indicated in some of the earlier questions, with some of the COVID money that has come into Colorado, DOT numbers are broadly even. And now we're seeing much better fitting activity. So I guess what I have to say on that, Phil, is more to come. But I've tried to give you what we feel like is a good march across the enterprise to give you a sense of where we think customer backlogs are.

Any color in the energy projects you've talked about that got pushed out maybe?

Yeah, the large energy projects. It's going to be interesting to see because obviously we're seeing energy pricing come back in ways this year that we anticipated that they would. I think part of what we had anticipated is until we started seeing that we were likely to see a slowdown on those jobs. We think we're likely to see those take off more in 2022. We had picked up very recently some volume on one of those projects in South Texas. So again, I think There are no big surprises, and there's nothing markedly different there than we spoke of as we really wrapped up the year last year, although it does look near-term, modestly brighter on some of the commitments that have been made over the last few weeks.

Got it. Sounds good. Thanks a lot, Ward.

Thank you, Phil.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Courtney Yacovonis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for the question. Maybe if you could just comment on within the quarter, I think you gave for the full year, you know, what your infrastructure and resume was up, infrastructure, you know, I guess you mentioned North Carolina being down, but can you just comment what it was in the fourth quarter by end market? And then in light of the comments that you would expect more typical seasonality for the first half versus second half next year, Can you just help us think about if there's going to be any difference between how you would envision those end markets returning to growth next year, if it shall be starting in the first quarter or some of those will be more back-up? Thanks.

Courtney, number one, welcome. We're delighted to have you here in this group, and nice to have your question, too. If I think about end uses, here's the way I would think about it. I'd rather just talk about it from the four-year perspective, Courtney, because I think that's probably a more directionally appropriate way to look at it, at least from my seat on the bus. Infrastructure ended up last year at about 36% for us. Non-res was tied for infrastructure at 36%, and residential was at 24%. So that gives you a pretty good snapshot of what volumes look like for the year. What I would tell you is I think 36 for infrastructure is awfully low. You know, that's an end use that ought to be in the low to mid-40s. I certainly believe with what we're starting to see from our leading states right now, and again, we've not built in a long-term highway bill into anything that we're talking about relative to 21, but if our states continue investing the way that they are, and we see a long-term bill come through from the federal government, we think that 36% moves up toward the 40% number and maybe even ahead of that. That would feel more logical to us. If we look at non-res at 36%, that's an odd one to me, and I'll tell you why. Historically, if we looked at non-res, it would have been very consistent at about 30% of our volume. And there would have historically been a pretty clear defining break with non-res light being about half of that and non-res heavy being about half of that overall 30%. Year just ended. It was 36%. But here's what's happened. Clearly, the light portion of non-res has gone down. The heavy portion of non-res has gone up. But the irony is the heavy portion of non-res is really heavy right now. So what we're seeing is in data warehousing and the other delivery products that we're having, the sheer aggregates intensity of heavy non-res is richer than we've ever seen before. That is actually serving to fill, in large measure, the tonnage hole that would otherwise be left when we look at what's happened to hospitality, retail, et cetera. So that gives you a sense of where that is. Now, residential last year at 24% is a relatively high number. That's probably the highest single res number that we've ever seen. To give you a sense of what it looked like at absolute nadir, it's about 7%. Now, what's happening is we're seeing res at 24% of our volume, but we're not seeing residential starts at a particularly high level, at least relative to a 50-year snapshot of it. What I think is most telling is back to the portion of the dialogue that we had before relative to what's happening with single-family residential within the overall residential snapshot. In the recovery that ended with COVID's arrival, single-family housing was about 67% of overall housing activity. If we look at what a 20-, 30-year average is, it tends to be closer to 80%. That's what we're starting to see today. So, again, as we think about what end uses look like on a percentage basis for 20 and the way that we think they're trending for 21, again, infrastructure, 36 and 20. Non-res, 36. Res, 24. As we move into 21, should we see infrastructure move up? I think we probably should. Will we see non-res move around a little bit but probably not huge numbers? Probably so. Do we think res will be pretty consistent? The answer is yes. I also think it's worth noting that the railroads have said that they intend to be back to relatively normal levels of maintenance and repair as we come into the year. That's important because the chemrock and rail portion of our business, which covers not only the rail portion but what we sell to farmers as agricultural lime in the Midwestern United States, can be an 8%, 9%, 10% portion of our business. As agricultural prices have continued to get better, our outlook for AgLime, I think, will continue to improve. So, Courtney, I threw a lot of data at you for the first time on the call. I apologize for that, but I hope that was helpful.

That was very helpful. Thank you.

You bet.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gary Schmoit from Loop Capital. Please go ahead.

Great. Thanks. Congrats on the quarter and outlook. Ward, given your optimism in new infrastructure spending going through in the middle of the year and some of the large growth figures associated with it, how should we think about the timing around the new funding showing up in your volumes? Is it unrealistic to think that it could be a 2022 driver? Or is it more 2023? And can you speak to the DOT's maybe ability to handle such a potential step-up in funding? Is there enough capacity to handle increase in revenues? It's a good problem to have. I'm just kind of wondering how quickly you can see this benefit you.

No, I agree, Derek. I think those are great questions. I would say several things. One, I do think most DOTs today have utilized their engineering and planning and eminent domain resources over the last several years to have themselves in a position that they're better placed than, I would submit, than any time in my career to be able to take these funds and move with them. And I think part of that's going to be underscored by what they're going to be doing with the COVID relief dollars they've gotten as well. I mean, to give you a sense out of it, if we look at the COVID relief dollars all by themselves out of the $10 billion, we're looking at $900 million to Texas, $134 million to Colorado, $260 million to North Carolina, Georgia is getting $323 million, Florida is getting $473 million, Iowa $123 million, Indiana $238 million, South Carolina $167 million, Maryland $150 million, and Nebraska $72 million. So those are nice. big numbers going to those states. So if we look at what they're going to be able to do with that in 21, we think they're going to be able to put most of that to work. To the extent that we see a highway bill that is in some form of pass by the time we get, let's call it toward half year, we believe you start seeing some degree of pull through in that in 22. But we equally believe what you're going to see is a nice build from that in 22, and we believe that's going to give at least that the single biggest, most consistent in use that we have, a nice multi-year run. What I think can happen, Garrick, is this notion of having perhaps infrastructure funding at levels that we haven't seen ever before, and the nicest increase that we've seen in 15 years, together with what we feel like in our footprint is going to be a continued expansion in single-family housing and then also following these corridors of commerce that we've so intentionally built our business around. We think it does set the industry generally up, but we think it sets Martin Marietta specifically up for what could be a very nice multi-year volume trend. So, Garrick, I hope that was helpful.

Yep, thanks again.

You bet.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Adam Thalmer from Thompson Davis. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. Hey, Ward, when you think about M&A, how open would you be to buying a vertically integrated company versus pure play aggregates?

Adam, good morning. It's good to hear your voice. I guess what I would say, Adam, is it all depends on the where. We're specifically driven by markets, what we think are attractive markets, the position that we would have in that market, and what we think we can do with the business. So here's the way I would encourage you to think about that. When we swapped out of the river business, we swapped out of a pure stone business, and we swapped into a vertically integrated marketplace. We didn't do that on that day because we lost any conviction in aggregates. This is an aggregates-led company. So what you should always expect us to do wherever we're looking at M&A is for it to be aggregates-led. That's the important thing to remember. But what I think you and I recognize is there's some markets in the United States that do tend to be vertically integrated. And if you want to be in an attractive market that's vertically integrated, you better be in a position that you have competencies around stones, and at times ready mix, and at times hot mix asphalt. So would we consider it? Of course we would consider it, but are we going to be very picky about the market? We will. And I think what you've seen from our track record is when we go and do that, what we've been able to do is add considerable shareholder value in the process.

Agreed. Good answer. I'll turn it over. Thanks, Adam.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Paul Roger from Exane BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Yeah, good afternoon, guys, from the English countryside. Congratulations on the results. I think most of the questions have been asked. I've just actually got a follow-up on the downstream side of the business. I think if we look historically, downstream pricing and margins tend to be a bit more volatile than cement and aggregates. And historically, I've struggled a little bit if hydrocarbon costs are going up. Looking at your range and the middle of the guidance, it looks like you're expecting sort of flat margins this year. And I just wonder if you can comment on what gives you confidence that that will be achievable, particularly in ready mix.

No, Paul, thank you very much for the question. It's good to hear your voice and hope you're well in the U.K. Paul, I think if we look at where our downstream businesses are, that's what gives us the confidence in those. Keep in mind, we have downstream businesses in Colorado where we have ready mix and we have asphalt, and we have downstream in Texas where we have ready mix only. I think what we're seeing is, particularly in Texas, a good amount of bidding, not only on private work that's tied into residential, but also on public work, on some large projects. So as we look at what we believe is happening in that marketplace, even despite what can be some of the raw materials costs, particularly on the energy side, I think we feel like that we can maintain those. Equally, if we look at our business in Colorado, that's really one of the better ready-mix markets in the United States. We see actually a pretty significant delta in ready-mix pricing in Colorado versus what we see in ready-mix pricing in most of Texas. And, again, the hot mix asphalt and paving business that we have in Colorado, I think, is really one of the better hot mix asphalt and paving businesses in the United States. It's got very high barriers to entry in that marketplace. And part of what we're seeing in that marketplace, too, although we're not experiencing it but others are, Paul, there are some depletion scenarios on stone that are underway in portions of the front range. Martin Marietta is not affected by that. We've got nice long-term reserve positions. But what we've done in that marketplace to, one, have good long-term reserve positions, but number two, make sure we have a nicely spread out distribution system is what's going to allow us to maintain margins in those downstream businesses. At the same time, part of what you'll see if you look at the downstream businesses is the raw materials piece of it does appear to be going up. And in large measure, that's because we're selling ourselves some raw materials in those businesses. And we recognize that the value of aggregates is very valuable, and it's getting more valuable each year. And we're going to make sure that even when we're doing those internally, we're doing it in a very equitable fashion because we want to treat our internal customers and our external customers exactly the same way, Paul. So hopefully that's helpful.

Yeah, that's great. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Paul. Cheers.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Stanley Elliott from Stiefel. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everybody. Thank you all for fitting me in, and nice work and a tough year. Question for you, with the change in administration, do you guys see anything working through the committees on the regulatory environment that would either add cost to the process, maybe slow down the construction markets at all? And then kind of a more broad thought, with the discussions around a $15 minimum wage, not really for you all, but for the customer contractor, what sort of disruptions that might cause, if any?

Great question, Stanley. The fact is we haven't seen anything coming through right now that we feel like is going to be wildly disruptive to what we're doing. I do think we're going to see considerably more ESG factors built into maybe not one big bill. I think you're going to see it built into most bills that come through. And by the way, we're perfectly okay with that, if you think of it from this perspective. One, a lot of it's going to be geared towards safety activities. You can see what our numbers are. We do that extraordinarily well. The other thing that I would tell you, you can go and look at the sustainability report that we put out. What you'll find out is that to the extent that we have greenhouse gases, we have 400 operations across the United States. Really, only four of them have any degree of notable GHG issues and that means 84% of our GHG issues come from four locations, which tell us that we've already set out really robust targets between now and 2030 on how we intend to deal with those, and we publish those annually. So as we're sitting here looking at what we feel like could be a higher regulatory market, we don't feel like we're seeing things right now that will be negatively impacting our business, do I think it might make barriers to entry more difficult in our business? The fact is it may. Is that something to lament? I'll leave that to you. If you've got 90 years of reserves at current extraction rates, I'm not sure that's something that we're particularly concerned about today. The other thing that I will say is to the extent that it increased costs, You know, the simple fact is we can usually deal with that on the commercial side because we would typically see pricing going up. And the other thing that I would say is at least right now our customer base is not complaining about a lack of available employees. What you remember, Stanley, is a couple of years ago there was a trucking shortage, there was a labor shortage. Right now we're not seeing that in our space. So logistics are working relatively well, and contractors are in a position that they can do what they need to with their projects day in and day out. So hopefully that ticked off the items that you had listed, Stanley.

You sure did, and you guys really do have a nice safety record. So congrats on that, and best of luck the rest of the year. Stanley, thank you so much.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rohit Svet from Sherwood Securities. Please go ahead.

Hey, Rohit. Thanks for taking my question. Just building on something you mentioned in the last question. Back in 2018, we had a pretty sharp spike in inflation in the second quarter. And, you know, with the fiscal stimulus that we have out there today, there could be some supply tightness out there. I'm just curious. How do you plan on defending your margins should that reoccur in the second quarter this year?

Well, it's good to hear your voice. Thank you for the question. If you go across our footprint and you look at what cost of goods sold look like for us, the primary thing that you're going to see is the single biggest cost of goods sold that we have is labor. It's our employees. Then you're going to find a series of others that tend to be in the aggregates business around 12% to 15% of our COGS. Those will be things like supplies, other inventories, what's happening with respect to maintenance and repair, et cetera. So if we go back over time and look at what we have done relative to our employee base, the way that we pay them, the tenure that they have, we don't see an inflation situation relative to wages that is anything that we're concerned about. With respect to maintenance and repair, what you'll see as well is if you go over, let's call it the soar years, you'll find that we've been very consistent with the way that we deployed capital in our business. What you'll see from that is a continuing thoughtful management of maintenance and repair. Now, one thing that you will see that went up a bit last year is some degrees of DD&A, and DD&A was up in large measure due to what we have done to invest responsibly in the business. So the one item, and I'll ask Jim to speak to it very specifically, that we think could be a bit of a headwind this year is relative to energy and more specifically with respect to diesel fuel. Because clearly we've seen that move around a little bit. Diesel fuel is a fairly notable tailwind for our company and for our industry all during 2020. That persisted into Q4, so I'll ask Jim to speak to that. The other thing I'll ask Jim to speak to is what we saw relative to the sale of some excess properties last year that will likely not repeat. So I think from an inflation perspective, that's going to talk to you about energy, but I also want you modeling to be thinking about what we're not going to do or at least replicate relative to land sales.

Sure. So we've got currently forecasted a headwind of $30 million. higher diesel in 2021. WTI is, I think, $58 per barrel, I think I saw this morning. That's the average price that was out there in 2019. So effectively, we're going back to that level of diesel pricing as far as we can tell. So that's already in the forecast. And frankly, though, we're holding onto our margins from 2020 and slightly building on those. So we're content in that environment to maintain margins and then offset the diesel pricing. As it relates to the land sale gains that Ward referred to, we had those very large gains in 2020, $70 million worth of gains. Those were hard fought and very much enjoyed, but they are not going to be repeating this year. So as you model out your numbers, we just ask that you look at 2020 EBITDA as a core, maybe pull up those land sale gains and not build on those as repeating into 2021.

Understood. And then on transportation costs, I'm seeing trucking costs going up a bit. What are you thinking there? Is that just a nominal grower or are you seeing any above normal growth there?

No, look, I think we'll just see some fairly typical growth in transportation. We're not particularly troubled by that. And keep in mind, most of the transportation, particularly on the quarry side, we're selling stone FOB to quarries. So we're counting on the customers to make transportation arrangements, and typically when they pick up the stone, risk of loss leaves us as it goes up the scales.

Understood. So in 2Q18, it was really just about diesel. It was diesel and transportation, but there's nothing else to really think about.

I think that's entirely correct, Rohit.

All right. That's all I have. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Rohit. Take care.

All right. Bye.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Josh Wilson from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Good morning, Ward, Jim, and Suzanne. Thanks for fitting me in. Congrats on the quarter. You bet, and another welcome. We're glad to have you on the call, Josh. Good to be here. Most of my questions have been asked, but I did want to make extra sure I understood the cement margin commentary. I understand the year-on-year comparability issues with the outage but it looks like the margin actually declines between the low and the high end of your guidance. Can you elaborate on maybe if there's some costs you would bring back at businesses at the high end of your expectations?

Let me ask Jim to respond to that, but yes, go ahead, Jim.

Yeah, from a cost perspective, natural gas is one of our inputs for fuel. That was pretty benign in 2020. We're forecasting that cost to go up slightly in 2021, and that's why you're seeing the margin slightly degrade year over year.

Does that answer your question? I was talking about the high and the low end of the 21 guidance.

Yeah, well, the natural gas. Are you talking about revenues or margins? Margins. Margins, yeah. So natural gas is an input for a cement business to fire the kilns, and we're forecasting those costs to go up.

So what's going to happen is a practical matter, Josh. If we look at energy overall for the aggregates business, it is going to tend to be about 12%, and of that, diesel fuel is going to be about 8% of that. When we look at energy overall for the cement business, it's a much larger percentage of the overall cost of goods sold for cement, and it's tending to be in the 20% range for overall energy. So I think that probably helps bridge that a bit for you.

Okay.

Thanks so much. And if I could just sneak in one other, your CapEx guidance is about the same as you initially started in 2020. Is that a good long-term number as well as we think about the cash potential as we get into an infrastructure bill?

I think it is. We had started out there last year, as you point out, and then COVID brought in a level of uncertainty, and so we pulled back quite a bit on CapEx 2020. We restored it in 2021. I think 9%, 8% to 10% of sales is a rough proxy of where our CapEx sits. So you can kind of scale it as the business grows. Our CapEx will grow accordingly. So 450 is probably not a bad number to be at. It's a little bit higher than we've been at recently. But again, we brought it down in 2020. So it's probably not a bad number to be at going forward.

Thanks. Good luck with the next four. Thank you so much, Josh.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Timna Tanners from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Oh, hey. Thanks for squeezing me in. I'm sure you'll talk about this also at your upcoming events today. But the big thing that sticks out to me in looking at your high-quality problem of these very strong cash flows is what you're going to do with them going forward. So I just wondered if you could just remind us of your priorities. It sounds like you're excited about M&A. You do have a little more CapEx you just talked about. But what does it take for the board to consider more buybacks or, you know, increased dividend. If you could just remind us about that. Thanks.

I'm happy to, Tim. So thank you so much for the questions. Good to hear your voice. Our capital priorities haven't changed. And that is the, we feel like the best first dollar spent is on the right transaction. And several years ago, I remember we were coming into a year and we said that we thought it could be a year of some notable transactions for the industry. And, I think the prospect is this could be a year of some notable transactions. We've tried to have ourselves financially and regulatorily in a position that if large transactions or notable transactions or attractive ones came along, we would be in a place that we could play. So if we think about our best first dollar spent, that's it. Next, we're looking at assuring that we're investing responsibly in the business and And if you look at what we've been able to do through cycles relative to CapEx, and as Jim was just indicating, we think we have treated the business really quite well. And if we look at what that has allowed us to do relative to our cost performance, we think that we have been largely outperforming. And then third, to your point, and your very good question, is a return of cash to shareholders. And we've done that through two very different ways, Jim, now. Number one, we've had a meaningful and a sustainable dividend, and we think both of those words are really important. So one thing to keep in mind, I believe we're the only heavy side building materials company who can say this. We've never cut a dividend. So the fact is we've been able to maintain a dividend all the way through cycles, and what's important is this company, even in August, when the world was faced with all the uncertainties from COVID-19, we raised our dividend by 4%. If you go back and look at where we were the year before that or the year before that, you'll find even bigger increases. So clearly our board is going to come back and look at the dividend in August. As you recall as well, when we bought TXI, we issued 20 million shares of stock to combine the companies together. Shortly after that, Our board took the view, okay, our shareholders were good enough to give us license to go and do this with a very high percentage shareholder vote. We're going to make sure over time, opportunistically, we come back and take that dilution back. And we've been on that journey. We've got about 15 million shares left in that authorization. We want to continue chipping away on that. But the conversations we've had with our shareholders have tended to be, if you have the ability to do the right deal, That's where we want you to be. And these are conversations that we're always very frontal with our shareholders because they're our owners at the end of the day, and we want to make sure that we're meeting their needs and their expectations. But that's the priorities. That's how we're looking at it, Temna. So, again, I hope that's helpful.

Yep, got it, Ward. Thanks again.

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Adrian Hurtak from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead. Hi.

Hi, Ward, James, and Susanne. Congrats on the results. Most of my questions were answered. But just very quickly, if you can comment a little bit on how the first quarter is looking. I mean, usually we see volumes down sequentially 10% to 15% in the first quarter. But we're ending with a very strong volume in the fourth quarter. Given what you have seen so far with weather and activity, et cetera, can we expect at least the same guidance that we have seen in the past?

Adrian, I really appreciate the question, and it's a good one, because here's the dichotomy that we find ourselves in. Last year, when most companies were withdrawing guidance, they were certainly encouraged to be forward-leaning and be even more forthcoming into what they might see in the coming months. part of what we're so pleased with is we feel like we're back in a more normalized state, trending to an even more normalized state. And because of that, we've reinstituted guidance. And our practice has always been, if we had guidance in place, to make sure that we were really sticking very close within the four walls of the quarter in which we're addressing. So I'll talk a little bit – well, I'll talk a lot more about January when we're together and we're reporting the full – the quarter results. I'll say this much. Part of what we thought was important was ending the year with momentum, and we thought that we would see it carry into the year. So we'll talk more about the first quarter when we come up with results. But I wanted to give you a sense of why, unlike at least the last two calls, we're not rushing to talk about the month that we're in right now.

Understood. Thank you, Ward.

Thank you, Adrian.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Duddis from Vertical Research. Please go ahead.

Yeah, good morning or afternoon, I guess, now. So, Ward, just quickly, you mentioned about the $10 billion in the allocations during certain states on the relief funds, the DOTs, and some pretty good numbers for some of the states that are not in your top five. What are the two or three areas or states you look at going, and you look at the plan of 2020, and that could be, generating positive surprises from you generally in the business, and maybe more so if some of that funding were to flow more aggressively into those states on the infrastructure side. Thank you.

Thank you very much for the question. I think two states that we'll particularly watch, and they were important states to us last year, and candidly, they don't get the press that they should. Indiana had a fantastic year last year. The management team that we have there just ran that business like a Swiss watch last year. And Indiana is getting $238 million more, and they've got a very good highway program there. The other business that performed extraordinarily well last year, and this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, is the business that we have in Maryland in the aftermath of the bluegrass transaction. Again, Maryland got $150 million coming into that marketplace as well. So we talked about how important Texas, Colorado, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida are. Those are one through five. But again, if we see... The type of performance I think we can expect to see in Indiana and what we might see in Maryland, those could be some very nice surprises coming into 2021. I'm not even sure we'd say surprises, but I think they could give some potential nice upside. Thank you. You bet, Michael.

Thank you. Our last question comes from the line of Brent Thielman from D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Hey, great, thank you. Hey, Ward, just a question on the North Carolina public sector in particular. Just because the deficit in whole and lettings last year was so significant, do you feel like you've already felt the brunt of that in the business? Are you anticipating a spillover effect from that, recognizing that, you know, obviously it's in recovery and lettings are forecast to pick up this year? Just want to get a sense of how you're thinking about the spillover in the 21st.

No, I think that's a great question, Brent. I would say several things. One, we went into 20 with some of the best backlogs we've ever had in North Carolina. And so that allowed us to weather a pretty challenging time in our state. Now, I'm probably going to jinx this right now, so I shouldn't say this, but right now we've had no harsh winter weather in North Carolina either, which means, let's face it, at the end of the day, we really don't want to see DOT having to move snow off roads in North Carolina. So I think it's a practical matter seeing resurfacing projects go, seeing the $700 million from build NC bonds and utilizing that and a much healthier bidding circumstance on top of the backlogs that we have make weathering what we've already done much better. And I think it does outline a much brighter 2021 and certainly a 2022 and beyond in North Carolina. So, We feel like we have been through the toughest period by far and that we're going to see this state begin to perform much more in line with what our historical expectations would have been. So, Brent, I hope that helps.

It does. Thank you, Roy.

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