Modine Manufacturing Company

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Modine's first quarter fiscal 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. If anyone should require assistance during the conference, please press star then zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Ms. Kathy Powers, Vice President, Treasurer, and Investor Relations.

Hello and good morning. Welcome to our conference call to discuss Modine's first quarter fiscal 2026 results. I'm joined by Neil Brinker, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mick Muccarelli, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. The slides that we will be using with today's presentation are available on the investor relations section of our website, modine.com. On slide three of that deck is our notice regarding forward-looking statements. This call will contain forward-looking statements as outlined in our earnings release, as well as in our company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that, I'll turn the call over to Neil.

Thank you, Kathy, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to report that Modine delivered a solid start to the year, giving us confidence to raise our revenue and earnings outlook for fiscal 26. We've completed three strategic acquisitions so far this fiscal year and announced major new investments in our manufacturing capacity for our rapidly growing North America data center business. Investments that will position us to meet continued strong market demand this year and well into the future. These investments are allowing us to maintain a balanced portfolio of businesses with strong organic growth focus in data centers, supplemented with inorganic growth to expand product offerings, and create scale in our other key climate solutions businesses. Mick will take us through the financial results and updated outlook, but first, I'd like to provide additional context around the quarter's key events. Our climate solutions segment continues to deliver, posting an 11% increase in revenue and a 10% improvement in adjusted EBITDA. This performance reflects initial contributions from two of our most recent acquisitions, Absolute Air and LB White. Both of these acquisitions offer complimentary solutions to our heating business, which falls within our HVAC technologies group. These additions broaden our product portfolio and unlock new markets and distribution channels. Modine has been in the heating business for nearly 100 years and has a large install base for our signature line of gas-fired unit heaters. We also have a leading market share with replacements typically driving over half of our annual revenues. These recent acquisitions allow us to accelerate growth and build scale as we continue to use 80-20 to drive both revenue and cost energies. Earlier this month, we closed a third acquisition, Climate by Design International, or CDI, a leader in desiccant dehumidification and critical process air handlers. These technologies integrate well with our previous acquisitions, namely Jetson Modular Chillers and Scott Springfield's Custom Commercial Air Handlers. As we integrate this business, we will use 80-20 to improve their mix and raise margins while exploring opportunities to utilize excess U.S.-based manufacturing capacity to support growth in the broader commercial IAQ businesses. All of these acquisitions are squarely in line with our business development strategy to expand our portfolio with next-gen technologies and complementary solutions in heating, indoor air quality, and data center cooling. They also build the foundation for scale in these key markets within HVAC technologies. I'd like to again welcome all the new associates from Absolute Air, LB White, and now CDI. Our teams are already integrating well and aligning around new opportunities to drive revenue and operational synergies. In our data center business, we continue to prioritize organic growth through capacity investments and product innovation. We recently announced 100 million investment to expand manufacturing capacity across four US sites. including a new facility in Dallas, Texas area, further expansion in Grenada, Mississippi, and repurposing two existing performance technology sites. The announcement advances our local-for-local supply chain strategy to be close to our data center customers and expand capacity in our largest and best markets. This investment will also enhance engineering, product development, and testing capabilities, create new jobs, and support the redeployment and retraining of existing Modine employees. This expansion is a necessary response to the extraordinary demand we're seeing, especially in North America. With our current funnel of opportunities, we believe that we can approach $2 billion of data center revenues in fiscal 28. This is a lofty goal, but one that we believe is achievable. In addition to this capacity expansion, we are also innovating. An example is our new modular data center development project, where we are collaborating with a large customer on a custom design built to suit their specific needs. This innovative solution offers rapid deployment and scalability, reducing the build time for a data center from over a year to mere months. An initial site can also be expanded by adding more modules to the center. As demand accelerates, our data center customers are pushing for higher efficiency and advanced cooling strategies. We're not only responding, but collaborating deeply with our engineering teams to create next generation solutions. We are and will continue to be a major part of these conversations, often supporting the additional mechanical cooling requirements needed to address changes being made at the rack level. For example, if a customer is looking for an alternative solution to distributing coolant to the rack, we will work closely with our engineering teams to collaborate an innovative alternative to meet their cooling requirements. To be clear, these innovations aren't threats. their outcomes of long-tenured strategic partnerships where our largest customers are seeking our expertise to meet their evolving demands. And they are unlocking new opportunities as we advance the technology required to manage heat loads in modern data centers. There's tremendous energy in this segment, and it's not slowing down. We will continue to aggressively pursue the opportunities in front of us to ensure continued execution and growth. Please turn to page five. As expected, the performance technology segment continues to navigate tough market conditions, with revenues in the quarter down 8% and corresponding declines in adjusted EBITDA. The downturn in vehicular markets is likely to persist for several more quarters. In response, we've taken decisive action to control costs, including reallocating talent to support our high-growth climate solutions business. As an example, we plan to transition two of our existing performance technology sites to expand capacity for data center production. One of those under consideration is Franklin, Wisconsin, which was previously planned to support our EV systems business. We are also evaluating plans for our Jefferson City, Missouri manufacturing facility, which would involve consolidating those product lines into other PT plants in North America. For other select portions of the segment, we continue to explore strategic options to realign and optimize our portfolio. Our PT team is doing excellent work to remain lean and focused on our key customers. When volumes return, we're well positioned to capitalize with strong incremental margins and improve profitability. Despite the market headwinds we're executing on our transformational strategy, this team has been through a great deal of change and has worked hard to improve margins and cut costs in light of these challenging market conditions. But our 80-20 strategy remains clear, to shift resources to high-growth, high-margin businesses. In summary, we had an extremely busy start to the fiscal year. We are investing in our growth both organically and inorganically. These are very purposeful investments designed to build scale across our portfolio and capture near-term growth opportunities. I want to thank the Modine team for their hard work and dedication. With that, I'll turn the call over to Mick.

Thanks, Neil, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to slide six to review the Q1 segment results. Climate Solutions delivered another good quarter with an 11% increase in sales, a 10% improvement in adjusted EBITDA, and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 20%. Data center sales grew 24 million or 15% from the prior year, driven by higher sales in North America. HVAC technology sales increased 17 million, or 34%, driven by strong heating stock plan orders and higher indoor air quality product sales. In addition, the recent acquisitions of Absolute Air and LB White contributed $10 million of revenue in the quarter. Heat transfer solution sales declined 1% or $1 million due to lower volumes to commercial and residential HVAC customers. This was mostly offset by higher sales to commercial refrigeration and coatings customers. The adjusted EBITDA margin was relatively flat versus the prior year. At this point, we're focused on continuing to drive earnings growth versus maximizing profit margins. While we're currently growing revenue at an exceptional rate, we're also increasing our investments in manufacturing and engineering resources to support future growth. For example, we're once again raising our fiscal 26 outlook for data center revenue growth to 45%. As capacity comes online and revenue grows, we expect the EBITDA margin to increase, especially in fiscal 27. With regard To the recent acquisitions, we're in the early innings with the team focused on integrating and stabilizing to ensure there are no surprises. At times, this can mean adding incremental resources and costs to capture future benefits. With that said, we're excited about the additional HVAC technology scale and the overall positive momentum in climate solutions. Please turn to slide seven. As anticipated, performance technologies revenues were impacted by challenging in-market demand and 80-20 driven product line exits. Heavy-duty equipment sales were lower by 4% or 4 million, driven by ongoing market weakness. Within the heavy-duty area, we experienced lower genset sales due to a customer moving to a dual sourcing strategy. While we had planned on lower volumes with this customer, we anticipated an offsetting increase with the new GENSEC customer. However, this customer and others are taking longer than anticipated to convert to the new cooling module designs. As a result, we believe it's prudent to plan on lower growth than previously anticipated in the GENSEC area. On-highway application sales decreased 8% or 15 million due to the previously mentioned lower-end market demand and 80-20 product line exits. Segment-adjusted EBITDA declined 14% from the prior year, and adjusted EBITDA margin decreased 100 basis points to 13.1%. The margin decline was mostly driven by lower sales volume and higher material costs. This was partially offset by improved operating efficiencies, along with significant cost reductions. We're passing through increased costs from tariffs and higher material costs, and we'll continue to recover these increases through our normal pass-through mechanisms. Consistent with past practices, we'll recover metals on a lagged basis, averaging about six months. The tariff recovery will vary with each customer and agreement. As we highlighted last quarter, we've been working to reorganize this business and reduce costs wherever possible. These actions resulted in a $5 million reduction in SG&A expenses this quarter, helping to partially offset the impact of lower sales volume. Despite the difficult market conditions and volume headwinds, the team remains focused on delivering higher margins and earnings for this segment this fiscal year. Now let's review the total company results. Please turn to slide eight. First quarter sales increased 3%, driven by the revenue growth in climate solutions. Our gross margin declined 40 basis points to 24.2%, driven primarily by the unfavorable impact of lower sales and higher materials in performance technologies. We continue to invest in incremental SG&A to support strong growth in climate solutions. In addition, SG&A includes expenses related to the acquisitions completed during the quarter, partially offset by lower SG&A costs and performance technologies. Adjusted EBITDA was better than we anticipated at the beginning of the quarter, resulting in a small year-over-year increase. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 14.9 percent, which was down 40 basis points from the prior year. We anticipated that the margin in Q1 would be down slightly and on a temporary basis due to the combined impacts of lower performance technologies volume and new investments in climate solutions. We expect to restart year-over-year margin improvements in the second half of the year on higher volume and material cost recovery. Adjusted earnings per share was $1.06 2% higher than the prior year. We're pleased with the start to the fiscal year. Momentum in our key growth markets allowed us to overcome challenges than others. And we expect positive contributions from our three recent acquisitions throughout the rest of this fiscal year. Now moving to cash flow metrics, please turn to slide nine. The businesses generated 200,000 of free cash flow in the quarter. This was lower than the prior year, primarily due to higher inventory levels in climate solutions. We're building significant data center inventory to support the large amount of projects and delivery schedules in the second half of our year. First quarter free cash flow also included $5 million of cash payments, primarily related to restructuring and acquisition-related costs. Net debt of $403 million was $123 million higher than the prior fiscal year end, directly related to the acquisitions of Absolute Air and LB White, which were both completed in the quarter. We invested more than $140 million in acquisitions and capital during the quarter, plus the additional acquisition in July to support future growth for Modine. With these investments and associated earnings, our balance sheet remains quite strong with a leverage ratio of one. I would also like to mention that we've extended the maturity and upsized our credit facilities, providing us with additional liquidity and flexibility to support future organic and inorganic growth. Thank you to the great Modine Treasury team and our banking partners for their support with this transaction. Now let's turn to slide 10. for our fiscal 2026 outlook. As Neil mentioned, we're raising our revenue and earnings outlook, driven by our recent acquisitions and another increase in our projected data center sales. For fiscal 26, we're currently expecting total sales to grow in the range of 10 to 15%. This is an increase from the previous range of 2 to 10%. For climate solutions, we expect full-year sales to grow 25 to 35% and expect data center sales to grow in excess of 45% this year. This is a significant increase from the previous range of 12 to 20% for climate solutions. The higher sales is mostly driven by our improving outlook for data center sales and the recent acquisitions in HVAC technologies. With regard to our increase in outlook for data center sales, we anticipate a significant acceleration in the second half based on customer timing and the additional capacity plans. For example, in the first half, we anticipate data center sales will be up 20 to 25% over the prior year, and the second half will be up by more than 80%. For performance technologies, we're maintaining our sales outlook with the revenue anticipated to be down 2% to 12%. We expect that end markets will remain soft, with the ongoing trade conflicts having a negative impact on market recoveries. Performance Technologies is currently trending towards the higher or the more favorable end of this range. However, the higher revenue will likely be due to incremental material and tariff cost recoveries, along with favorable foreign exchange rates. With regard to our full year earnings, we currently expect fiscal 26 adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $440 million to $470 million. This represents a $20 million increase from the previous range. The higher earnings will be recognized in the second half of the fiscal year as we begin to capture the full benefit of the recent acquisition and our data center sales accelerate significantly. The new earnings outlook represents another year of rapid growth, based on the implied growth range of 12% to 20%, with a midpoint above 15%. With regards to cash flow, we recently announced a plan to invest an incremental $100 million of CapEx over the next 12 to 18 months. As a result, we'll continue to generate free cash flow, but this year will be somewhat lower as a percentage of sales at around 3%. This includes the cash required to fully fund our pension prior to our planned annuitization this year. I want to point out that we have not included cash proceeds from any potential divestitures this year. Looking ahead to the next year, we anticipate that our free cash flow margin will once again improve and be in line with our fiscal 27 target. To wrap up, we're quite pleased with the results this quarter, and these are exciting times at Modine. We're reinvesting and redeploying significant amounts of capital, which are generating high returns on investment and supporting our strategic transformation, while laying the foundation for us to generate rapid growth well into the future. With that, Neil and I will take your questions.

If you have a question at this time, please press the star then one key on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star then two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. The first question is from Matt Somerville from D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Mornin. Couple questions. First, can you talk about the magnitude of unabsorbed cost you're going to experience in the climate business? Second, can you comment on how we should be thinking about the fiscal 27 data center revenue target you set back in September of 2024 at $1 billion with your current guidance almost knocking on that now for fiscal 26. And then I have a follow-up.

Yeah. Hey, Matt. It's Mick. Good morning. Thanks for the question. I think the first question on the data center fixed cost, the best way to think about that is – two pieces the the core capacity that we put in place and that's rapidly filling up will continue to convert at at good margins at or above the CS segment margin when we think about the incremental capital investments the hundred million that we're making in to expand facilities adding more lines at current facilities plus a couple of brand new facilities that Neil covered, that will start to ramp in the second half of the year and most likely won't capture the meaningful volume until kind of beginning the new fiscal year. And so on that, we clearly raised our outlook here this year by about $100 million in top line. That'll probably convert a little bit lower. I think probably the incremental $100 million more like a 15% type net number. And in there is pretty good conversion at the gross profit line, but we're also adding a lot of resources to engineering to support the future growth. So I guess the short answer for you would be for the core business, status quo, good conversion, the incremental 100 million, probably a little bit below the normal segment average, and I think it's probably closer to 15%, although that's really hard, you know, with so many moving pieces to predict. And Matt, the second question, you want to remind me of that?

Yeah, I mean, if you're up 45%, you know, roughly would equate to 925, 950 in DC revenue, something in that range where your target for fiscal 27 is a billion. What's a reasonable sort of way to kind of think about, all right, if we're 2 billion ish in 28, what's a good starting point for our thinking with respect to 27 based on, you know, the billion dollar number that you have sitting out there.

Yeah. From my side, stay tuned, but, um, You're right. I think for now, probably think about it as more of a straight line. And we are trending towards a billion this fiscal year. And you're right, when we did our IR day last September, we were targeting and the growth rate was implying a billion next year. So we have a lot of moving pieces with the production coming online, but I think short of us coming back, and we will probably later in the year, Neil laid out a $2 billion goal in 28. 26 is clearly running towards the billion. Until we know more, I think kind of doing a straight line between the two would be the most logical, unless, Neil, you have anything else you want to add?

No, I think that's a good approach.

Very good. And then as my follow-up, you made a comment regarding profitability and how that sort of evolves first half, second half. When you say that margins are set to improve, is that a comment on the whole company or on both the segment level for both climate and PT? And then I'll get back to you. Thank you.

Yeah. So a couple, a few moving pieces there with regards to the margins. So first, for the total company, we still expect that we will have a margin improvement this year. And that'll be driven mostly by performance technologies. And we see our total company margins really beginning to step up in the second half of the year, our Q3 and our Q4. When we think about it by segment, I'll cover CS first, and it really ties to what we just talked about. Big second half volumes coming in from the data center ramp, and then you can imagine we are currently adding a lot of costs and preparing. So we'll be holding similar kind of flat margins. We could be down a little bit in CS, not in a meaningful way. But it's really bringing on costs here in the first half of the year. And the second half I mentioned, the implied growth rate really is over 80% in the second half of our year for data centers. That's the kind of ramp we're looking at, including north of the $40 million inventory build here in the quarter. From a PT standpoint, we expect a good margin lift this year, even with the flat to down volume. And that's been consistent with our transformation strategy. We still think we could generate 100 basis points or so of margin improvement. And again, we see that coming in the back half of the year. Two things. The cost will continue to come out, and at the same time, we'll see higher volumes starting to come a little bit in the second half of the year, both, you know, mainly from a year-over-year basis. So it'll be a little bit of volume, cost recovery on tariff and metals, and then the cost outs on the PT side driving the margin improvement. Great. Thanks, Mike.

Yep.

The next question is from Brian Drab from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to ask about the capacity expansion first in just a couple points of clarification. Your recent comments about how much capacity you had, I think you were saying, you know, we're approaching like 1.3 to 1.5 billion in revenue capacity. And then you talked about, you know, this week the $100 million investment and the ability to get to $2 billion in revenue roughly. You know, how much revenue are we thinking about adding with, you know, specifically tied to the $100 million investment?

Yeah, Brian, this is Neil. Good question. So the way that we're thinking about it in order for us to get to that $2 billion goal of 2018, we would have to have about $2.5 billion of capacity in place. So we'd want to run around 80% capacity, if that makes sense. So that would be the difference between the two of those relative to the $100 million investment.

And I'm trying to get to, and a lot of people are trying to get to just like what's the return on investment here. But, I mean, it sounds like you're getting like a billion in capacity for $100 million investment. I mean, can you, you know, help me with that? Seems like a slam dunk ROIC, but this is what people are trying to calculate.

Yeah, yeah. This is Mick jumping in. The ROIs that we, as we've run them, are really high on these investments. You know, highest we've seen, well above any acquisition or organic. Talking about 40-plus percent type return on invested capital. The only thing I would add around the capacity when we talk about it is it really depends on the product and the region. So when Neil lays out an estimated $2.5 billion of capacity, the products, right, are so large, the answer will always be we want to have the right mix. And we could always be adding more capacity, but it's air handlers versus chillers, Europe versus North America, India versus North America. So when Neil makes the comment, it's a blended number, and it's kind of an optimal capacity. But I think we will always get, if we're doing our job and we're growing, hopefully we'll always have, you know, capacity issues that we're looking at expanding. But it really depends, again, by region and by product.

Okay. Yeah, I mean, I'm doing, like, you know, the math too simply with limited information, but, I mean, it seems like you're adding almost a billion in revenue capacity at maybe 15% EBITDA margin and getting 100 plus million in EBITDA every year going forward on 100 million investment. It seems like, I mean, like, roughly, like, better than 100% ROIC, but I guess... I'll follow up more later on that one. Yeah. Yeah. Is that – am I crazy, like the initial thoughts I'm having on that or no?

No. For sure, we look at – well, I mentioned we're well north of 40%, 50% return on capital, lots of assumptions to make there. But I think your question, your point, the payback and the ROI is really big on these. These are – Neil said it before, we built the reputation with our customers. We have the right products, the right brand, the reputation, service, quality. It's about capacity and execution.

Okay. And then the 15, roughly 15% EBITDA margin you mentioned, Mick, Is that a level that you would think would be the long-term level of margin for that incremental capacity coming on? Or is that kind of how to think about it in the near term as you ramp up and get the full utilization in the new capacity?

Yeah, great. I'm glad you clarified that. No. we'll drive significantly higher margins. And it's always a step function. Phase one is capacity. Phase two is fill capacity. You know, phase three is optimize it or, you know, max it out. And our data center businesses, when they're running at normal capacity, are at or above our segment averages. So I was just commenting with the multiple lines coming on and new facilities, we often get asked, like, how come our margins aren't going up faster or more? And Neil and I, our view has been we'll drive a lot more shareholder value by this 30% type earnings growth. And at some point, you focus a lot more on capacity utilization and margin. But for now, we're going to continue to put the capacity in place given the order book and the funnel we see in front of us.

Yeah, perfect. Thank you. I'll let others ask some questions. Thanks.

The next question is from Noah Kay from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

thanks well you know obviously this back half ramp is really key for us all to understand and I think have to pair the demand visibility part of this with understanding you know what percentage of the capacity the new capacity is in place so so maybe on the demand side first Can you just give us a sense of really the visibility to be able to raise the guide this early in the year? We're talking about nine months from now. Are those orders pretty much baked? And then on the capacity, I mean, what has to happen in terms of percentage brought online in the guardrails to make sure you can hit or potentially even beat the target?

Yeah, thanks, Noel, for the question. Certainly, we have visibility that goes beyond a year. In some instances, it can go out as far as three years. And we're in close collaboration with our customers in terms of timing and how we need to stand up this additional capacity to meet their requirements, their demands, and to fall in line with their data center timeline constructions and build-outs. So we essentially tie our schedule to their schedule, and then that allowed us the opportunity to go forward and put this additional capacity in place. So the first step is going to utilize existing infrastructures, existing areas where we have workforce and supply chain established. That's going to happen in the next three to four months or in the next couple quarters. We're going to be looking at retooling these facilities and standing them up for DC operations. And then we have some newer facilities that we'll have to bring on land that are greenfields. It'll take a little bit longer.

because we don't have the set established practices that we have with the existing facilities so those will those will likely come online um closer to the end of our fiscal year okay i mean uh i think to to thank you neil i think to kind of further unpack that uh to go from 30 to 45 and clearly there's been a theme right all this earning season of uh the customers wanting more speed and accelerating their build. So, you know, is it the right characterization that basically you saw accelerated deployment schedules from customers in addition to expanded build? And so that's what's driving your own expansion. I just want to understand kind of the sequencing here on the decisions.

Well, it's what's driving the expansion is certainly accelerated growth with our customers, existing customers, as well as onboarding new customers, right? We're gaining share in this market. And as we bring our technologies online and we bring new technologies to the market, there's an attraction there. So it's with existing customers that are moving quicker than we anticipated, and it's, you know, winning share and bringing new customers on board at the same time.

Last one, you know, Mick, as you mentioned, the outlook doesn't contemplate any divestiture proceeds. Maybe... Can you just sort of bring us up to speed on how that process is moving along and any potential color on timing?

Yeah, the two areas we've talked about in the past is we had announced, I think it was last year, that we had plans to sell the headquarters in our European location. And as a reminder, we expect that to close later this year. That was estimated to be a $10 to $15 million type transaction. We're just going through regulatory issues there, approvals, local approvals. And then Neil and I have talked about after the IR day, we talked about $250 to $300 million on light duty business that we were going to de-emphasize or exit. We still have that process working and a team focused on that. So for now, I'll leave it at that until we have, we'll come back and we have something definitive to share with the investors.

All right. Well, stay tuned. Thank you.

Yeah. The next question is from Chris Moore from CJS Securities. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. Lots of good stuff. Can you maybe just, we've talked about a little bit the custom modular data center that you're developing with clients. Can you talk about that a little bit further, you know, and kind of, you know, just any specifics there and what that, you know, kind of timeline looks as you continue to work there?

Yeah, thanks, Chris, for the question. We're definitely seeing some customers in the market move in this direction. And it's to satisfy three things, speed, speed, and speed. So you can essentially see this as a data center in a box. And it allows for our customers to ramp up their data center projects and facilities at a much quicker rate. It doesn't require the same amount of labor as well as the skilled labor that it takes for construction. So we're working with a very important customer, and we've identified a location in Calgary where we're making this product, and we're going to expand it into the U.S. as well. And, again, it's to help our customers get to the market quicker with their data center solutions.

Got it. I appreciate that. We've talked about the ICE rationalization for a while now. Are there other areas within performance technologies that you may be focusing on less moving forward?

So, you know, constantly an evaluation of our markets. That's the beautiful thing about 80-20 is we've segmented the business into multiple markets and then established key account strategies. Some things will come in and some things will go out. I think You know, Mick mentioned the Genset in terms of where we're seeing that business kind of flatten. That may allow for us to redeploy resources or activity in another area. We're in the process of evaluating different opportunities in PT.

Got it. Maybe just the last one is more modeling. Cash flow down a little this year. You're going to be spending more. What interest expense sense in terms of, you know, a reasonable level for for fiscal 26?

Yeah. Yep. Interest expense should be, we've got a list of assumptions in the back, but 28 to 30 million would be our current estimate for interest expense. Perfect.

I will leave it there. Thanks, guys.

The next question is from David Tarantino from KeyBank Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. Good morning. Maybe just on the near-term data center trends, could you give us a better picture on the underlying demand you're experiencing relative to the 15% growth in the first quarter, just particularly relative to the pauses you noted in Europe last quarter relative to what is clearly robust demand in North America?

Yeah. Hey, it's Nick here, and I'll give you my view, and then Neil could jump in. One of the things that on the positive side that we've seen happening is we've continued to win new programs. And so we started the year, we knew it would be a little bit more back half loaded. And we talked about for us, slightly lower than normal data center growth, even though Q1 came in at 15%. And then we had planned on a 30 plus percent year. Some of the locations we've been supporting, Neil's talked about, we've won more buildings or more data centers. And on top of it, Neil mentioned some of the customers have either asked to increase our volumes or accelerate volumes. So all of that has led to two things. Internally, we said we needed to have the capacity to support the growth, the customers, and the orders we have in hand. And then secondly, to meet this, you know, the growing opportunity and order book we see for next year. So we really have seen an acceleration here in the second half, and it's us keeping up with the increase in orders and the increase in volumes. Neil, anything I missed?

Yeah, I would just add that, you know, we have the orders. We have the commitments to lead to the capacity expansion. We're comfortable with that. And that, you know, us introducing our chiller to the North America region has really helped us explode and grow. It is our chiller technology and the demand for our chiller has really driven us to drive more capacity inside of the United States to keep up with our customers' expectations.

Okay, great. And then maybe could you give us a bit more color on the recent deals and how much they should contribute this year? And then just thinking about capital allocation, obviously we're investing quite a bit more in data centers, but what should we expect otherwise following both all these deals and even more investment in data center?

Yeah, Mick, I'll take that one. And again, Neil could add anything we want. So on a Partial year basis, we should see from the last two about $100 million of incremental revenue. And from an LB White perspective, we talked about that one. That one, we expect to have margins initially called in the 15% to 20% range, so not too far off of the climate solutions and quickly getting at or above our segment, and that also will help drive second half of the year. CDI is running below the segment, the last acquisition we did. That was a company that had also had a large business that was supporting the rapid growth on the EV battery side and the battery factories. And we bought that for different reasons. And so that one is really a drive on our side to fill that manufacturing capacity and then leverage the sales synergies. And we expect to drive margins up over the next year to be in line with our segment average. So a little bit lower margins on the CDI side and then LB White, call it 15 to 20% and increasing. from those two. Capital allocation, Q1, I thought at 27 million, 20 of that was in CS and mostly on data centers. With this year, we were already, our plan was already to spend probably $40 million in capital on data center growth. So the announcement we did this week is an incremental 100 on top of that. We'll probably spend the next year, 12 months plus, somewhere between 140 plus million of capital on the data center side. The PT is really in a maintenance mode. We're really doing mostly preventative maintenance and select program launches there. And then last thing I would say on the just capital allocation M&A side, We'll expect, you should expect from us, we'll probably have a pause here on the acquisition side for at least a couple quarters. We need to digest three acquisitions, any of the divestiture work the team's working on, and a massive data center expansion. So balance sheet's still in great shape, but I think from a team going three different directions, all of you should expect we'll probably have a pause for at least a couple quarters on that. acquisition side. Okay, great.

Thanks, guys.

The next question is from Jeff Van Sinderen from B Reilly Securities. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone, and great to hear about the expanding data center production. But are you also expanding data center service capabilities alongside that?

Certainly, that is a product offering that we often bring to the market with our product solution sales. Absolutely. We've been doing some hiring in North America to support it. Our service group, we need to build out further service to support the tremendous growth that we have in just equipment sales in the United States to support it, not only short-term but long-term. It's necessary when you get the equipment on in the field to have people in place for startup and installation. So absolutely building that out at the rate that we can to keep up with the product demand, as well as our controls. One area that we think we have a unique solution in that differentiates is our building management and our control system. So when you tie all of our equipment together and have it operate like an ecosystem, it becomes very efficient. And in these days where the demands for power is so high or the need to reduce water reduction is so important, those efficiencies are extremely, those efficiencies that we drive are extremely well positioned in the market. So it's a good point. And yes, at the rate that we're growing with product sales, we need to keep pace with it on the service side as well.

Okay, fair enough. And then You had one large order in the D.C. area. I think it was 180 million, somewhere in that area, with I believe it was a colo that you announced a few months ago. Is there other business of that magnitude out there that we could wake up and see, you know, a similar type announcement here over the next several quarters of that size?

Yes, that's essentially what drove the $100 million of investment to drive to that $2 billion mark. It's a collection of orders of magnitude like that, correct? Okay, good.

And I realize you're pausing a little bit on the acquisition front, but any thoughts on where you might go or what you might look at when you resume looking at acquisitions? What areas might you focus on?

Certainly we have, I mean, we love the organic growth that we have in data center market today, but we also believe it's important to maintain a diversified business portfolio for the long term. So we'll be actively building out our funnel over the next two quarters that support our HVAC technologies business and maybe even some vertical integration of the supply chain.

Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll take the rest offline.

The next question is from Brian Sponheimer from Gabelli and Company. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone, and congratulations again. Neil, you've had a terrific vision for the data center business, and obviously these acquisitions within climate solutions are bolstering the remainder, which started the year at about an $800 million business. I guess my question is, where does that business need to get to and where does data center need to get to where you potentially are doing another separation where you see those two businesses stand on their own just from a strategic perspective and also from a financial one oh that's a it's a good question brian i appreciate that and it's one thing to have a vision it's another to have a team that can actually drive and execute on it so i give all the credit to the team um

We'll have to relook at this as we continue to shift in our portfolio. As you know, we've divested multiple plants over the last few years, and we've acquired new businesses, and we've also had organic growth that's exceeded our expectations in other parts. So the business has changed quite dramatically since we launched the original segments several years back to support and complement our IR day. So definitely that is something that we're going to have to look at going forward as we continue to rebalance and reposition the company. It will be a normal process of our 80-20 outlook. So we do that every year. And I suspect that, you know, we're going to do that again at the end of this fiscal year as well.

Terrific. Well, congratulations and look forward to what's next. Thank you.

The next question is from Matt Somerville from DA Davidson. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Just a follow-up, and I apologize if you hit this. I've lost the call for a second. But can you just flush out a comment you just made, a collection of new orders of that magnitude in the context of this $2 billion? Should we assume a majority of the build to that $2 billion is based on an order in hand or in sort of backlog. I know you don't disclose orders and backlog. I guess I'm trying to get a sense of how much of that revenue objective is known and spoken for today.

Does that make sense? Yeah, it does make sense. So we have the highest backlog in data centers we've ever had. So it gives us confidence in order for us to be able to put forward that type of capital to grow and expand. We are also the income in a lot of these data centers. So we know and we see and we have visibility of the expansion of these data centers. And in our conversations, there isn't any reason for us to think that our data center customers would take a different solution, especially when it's about growth and speed and reliability. So it's the commitments that we have with our customers, it's the orders that we have with our customers, it's the outlook, it's the strategic relationships, all these things coming together. is what gives us confidence to make that investment.

Thank you for that. And then just as a follow-up, I want to go back to slide four, talking about the modular data center that you're developing with the key customer, talking about what I assume is this large air handling unit you're developing, I assume, for another customer. Are these solution sets portable across the customer base? within data centers, and if so, how soon, or is there some level of exclusivity you will be granting on these? Thank you.

Yes, with one, there is – well, yes, it is exclusivity with the large – particularly when you're working with the hyperscalers, yes, that's the case. But, you know, when it comes to the modular data center, certainly there will be different versions of that, right? They won't all look the same. Some will be very different. The concept will be the same, but what's inside and how they operate could be unique and bespoke for each one.

Yes. Thank you, Dan.

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