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spk04: I'd now like to turn the conference over to Joe Kruszewski. Please go ahead.
spk15: Good morning, and welcome to Molina Healthcare's third quarter 2021 earnings call. Joining me today are Molina's president and CEO, Joe Zabrowski, and our CFO, Mark Kine. A press release announcing our third quarter earnings was distributed after the market closed yesterday and is available on our investor relations website. Shortly after the conclusion of this call, a replay will be available for 30 days. The numbers to access the replay are in the earnings release. For those who listened to the rebroadcast of this presentation, we remind you that the remarks made are as of today, Thursday, October 28, 2021, and will not be updated subsequent to the initial earnings call. In this call, we will refer to certain non-GAAP measures. A reconciliation of these measures with the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in our third quarter 2021 press release. During our call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements, including but not limited to statements regarding the COVID-19 pandemic, the current environment, recent acquisitions, 2021 guidance, 2022 premium revenue outlook, our embedded earnings power, and our long-term outlook and expected EPS growth. Listeners are cautioned that all of our forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. We advise listeners to review the risk factors discussed in our Form 10-K annual report for the 2020 year filed with the SEC, as well as the risk factors listed in our Form 10-Q and our Form 8-K filings with the SEC. After the completion of our prepared remarks, we will open the call to take your questions. I will now turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Joe Zabrowski.
spk17: Joe? Thank you, Joe, and good morning. Today, we will provide you with updates on several topics. our financial results for the third quarter of 2021, our 2021 guidance in the context of our third quarter results, our initial outlook for 2022 premium revenue and embedded earnings power, and lastly, our growth initiatives and reaffirmation of our outlook for the future. Let me start with the third quarter highlights. Last night, we reported adjusted earnings per diluted share, for the third quarter of $2.83, with adjusted net income of $164 million and premium revenue of $6.8 billion. The 88.9% consolidated medical care ratio demonstrates solid performance while managing through pandemic-related challenges. The net effect of COVID increased our consolidated medical care ratio by 110 basis points and decreased net income for diluted share by approximately $1. We managed to a 7.3% adjusted G&A ratio, reflecting continued discipline in cost management while making the appropriate investments in our business to fuel growth. We produced an after-tax margin of 2.3%, meeting our third quarter expectations. Our year-to-date performance metrics highlighted by an 88% MCR, a 7.1% adjusted GNA ratio, and a 3.1% adjusted after-tax margin, we're all squarely in line with our nine-month expectations, despite the significant COVID-related impacts we experienced, totaling $2 per share year-to-date. We accomplished all of this as year-to-date we generated approximately 50% year-over-year premium revenue growth, successfully integrated businesses representing approximately $5 billion in annual revenue, and continued to execute on our growth initiatives. In summary, we are very pleased with our third quarter and year-to-date performance. We executed well, delivered solid operating earnings, and continued to drive our growth strategy. Let me provide some additional commentary related to our third quarter performance. As we stated in the second quarter, year over year comparisons are less meaningful than they would be in a typical year due to pandemic related effects. Therefore, we will again focus our comments this morning on sequential comparisons. In the third quarter, we produced premium revenue of $6.8 billion, a 3.3% increase over the second quarter of 2021, reflecting increased membership across our entire portfolio. We ended the quarter with approximately 4.8 million members, an increase of 142,000 members over the second quarter of 2021. We have now grown to serve approximately 800,000 additional members since the end of 2020, a 20% increase. Our Medicaid enrollment at the end of the quarter was approximately 4 million members, an increase of 53,000 over the second quarter of 2021. This increase was due primarily to the continuing suspension of Medicaid redeterminations, which has resulted in an increase of over 700,000 Medicaid members since the beginning of the pandemic. Our Medicare membership was 138,000 at the end of the quarter, an increase of 8,000 members driven primarily by organic growth as we follow our Medicaid footprint with an enhanced distribution strategy. Our Marketplace membership was 719,000 at the end of the quarter, representing growth of 81,000 members over the second quarter of 2021 due to continued lower than expected attrition rates and membership additions during the special enrollment period, which ended in mid-August. Turning now to our medical margin performance in the third quarter by line of business. Medicaid, our flagship business, representing 77% of premium, continues to drive premium revenue growth and stable earnings as we execute on the underlying fundamentals. For the quarter, our Medicaid business achieved a medical care ratio of 89.6%, consistent with our expectations as the net effect of COVID was notable but manageable. Year to date, our well-diversified portfolio of state contracts continues to perform well across all dimensions. Medical cost trend is stable and well-controlled while we continue to deliver high-quality care, particularly to high acuity populations. The underlying rate environment is stable. Risk sharing corridors continue to capture some of our outperformance, but many have been and continue to be eliminated. We are winning new state contracts and we are consistently finding attractive acquisition opportunities. Moving on to Medicare. Our Medicare results exceeded our expectations. For the quarter, our medical care ratio was 82.8%. Lower net effect of COVID, including utilization curtailment and risk corridor true-ups, combined with improved risk adjustment revenue, served to drive a 490 basis point sequential improvement in the MCR. Our year-to-date Medicare MCR of 86.8% better reflects the underlying performance of this business. and demonstrates our ability to clinically and financially manage the high-acuity lives in both our DSNP and MMP programs. Our marketplace medical care ratio in the quarter was 91.3%. This reflects increased costs related to the net effect of COVID, the impact of the special enrollment period, and the natural seasonality of the business. Recall that many of the new members we attracted were in regions disproportionately affected by COVID, particularly in Texas. Moreover, we experienced higher non-COVID utilization by members enrolled through the special enrollment period due to the relaxed eligibility guidelines. Our year-to-date Marketplace MCR was 84.8%. It includes over 500 basis points of pressure from the net effect of COVID. as well as 280 basis points of impact from the special enrollment period. We remain confident that we can achieve mid-single-digit pre-tax margins in 2022. We will accomplish this through actions already taken and changes to the environment that have already occurred. Specifically, we priced to a higher medical cost trend. We redesigned our product offerings focusing on the silver tier in response to the increased premium subsidies. And we note the conclusion of the 2021 special enrollment period and the more restrictive 2022 special enrollment eligibility rules. In summary, our third quarter and year-to-date enterprise results continue to demonstrate our ability to produce excellent margins while growing top-line revenue and successfully managing through the ongoing clinical and financial impacts of the pandemic. Turning to our 2021 guidance, beginning with premium revenue. At our recent investor conference, we increased our 2021 premium revenue guidance to be more than $26 billion. With our third quarter results and the closing of affinity, we are now projecting 2021 premium revenue of no less than $26.5 billion, which represents a 45% increase over the full year 2020. We are maintaining our full year 2021 earnings guidance of no less than $13.25 per share. This represents a 50 cent increase compared to the midpoint of our initial 2021 guidance, despite absorbing an additional $1.50 per share from the net effect of COVID. revealing an improvement of $2 per share in underlying performance. Excluding the impact of the net effect of COVID, our 2021 guidance results in a 3.4% after-tax margin. This performance is consistent with our initial 2021 guidance and squarely in line with our long-term target margin expectations. We do, however, remain cautious in projecting our fourth quarter earnings due to a variety of exogenous factors primarily related to the net effects of COVID across all of our businesses. Turning now to our 2022 revenue outlook. At our September investor conference, we provided the components of our initial 2022 premium revenue outlook that delivers premium revenue growth of more than $3 billion over 2021 guidance. Specifically, $2.3 billion from already announced acquisitions, including Affinity, which we just recently closed, and the Cigna Texas Medicaid business, which we expect to close in January of 2022. Organic growth of $1 billion, representing approximately 4% growth across our current footprint. Approximately $400 million for our Nevada Medicaid launch, partially offset by a projected $500 million impact from redeterminations, which we expect to occur throughout 2022. Since then, we announced the AgeWell acquisition. Any incremental revenue from AgeWell in 2022 would likely be offset by pharmacy carve-outs in California and Ohio. A reminder, this 2022 outlook is prior to Marketplace membership changes and any additional strategic initiatives and acquisitions. Bear in mind that our marketplace approach in 2022 emphasizes margin over membership growth. At this early stage, we expect 2022 marketplace membership to be flat to down when compared to 2021. No matter where the marketplace membership and revenue eventually lands, we expect the business to generate mid-single-digit pre-tax margins in 2022. Turning now to our longer-term growth outlook. At our September investor conference, we laid out our strategy for sustaining profitable growth, a strategy that delivers 13 to 15% annual premium revenue growth off of our 2022 baseline. We expect approximately two-thirds of that growth to be organic. driven by a combination of underlying industry growth and a set of specific strategic initiatives that we described in detail. The remaining one-third will be derived from inorganic growth, the achievement of which is supported by our current track record of M&A execution. Our profitable growth outlook has us sustaining our 4 to 5 percent pre-tax margins, harvesting the potential for operating leverage and accretively deploying excess capital to deliver a very attractive EPS growth rate of 15 to 18 percent on average over time. The components of this growth engine are well established and working. Our year-to-date performance is testimony to the strength of that growth engine. Specifically, the Nevada Medicaid Contract Award speaks to our ability to win new state contracts to drive organic growth. and we continue to participate in additional RFPs we find attractive. And our M&A team continues to deliver. In addition to the Cigna Texas Medicaid business we announced earlier this year, this month we announced the acquisition of Age Well's managed long-term care business in New York for a purchase price of less than 20% of revenue. This acquisition complements our expanding New York footprint, serving high-acuity populations in the state. AgeWell serves approximately 13,000 members with full-year 2020 premium revenue of approximately $700 million. We expect AgeWell to deliver accretion of 15 cents to 20 cents per diluted share in the first full year of ownership. The M&A target pipeline is vibrant. and gives us confidence in continued execution. To recap our strategy, we remain committed to staying close to the core. We are a pure play government managed care business. We believe the government managed care business has very attractive growth characteristics, demographically and politically. We aspire to provide high quality care to our members while driving to the lowest cost of delivery to produce attractive margins in this high-growth industry. We believe we have the right strategy and the right team to execute our sustaining profitable growth agenda. We remain extremely confident that we can achieve our long-term targets of 13 to 15 percent premium revenue growth and 15 to 18 percent earnings per share growth. As I conclude my remarks, I want to express my gratitude to our management team and our nearly 13,000 Alina colleagues. Their skill, dedication, and steadfast service continue to form the foundation for everything we have achieved and everything we will achieve in the years to come. With that, I will turn the call over to Mark Kime for some additional color on the financials. Mark?
spk13: Thanks, Joe, and good morning, everyone. This morning, I will discuss some additional details of our third quarter performance and then turn to the balance sheet and some thoughts on our 2021 guidance. Beginning with our third quarter results, the net effect of COVID negatively impacted third quarter results by 77 million or approximately 110 basis points of our reported 88.9% MCR. During the quarter, we experienced higher COVID-related inpatient costs that began to taper off late in September. While the total company net effect of COVID at about a dollar per share was very similar to the prior quarter, the components and impacts vary greatly within our segments. Total company MCR is up 50 basis points on several segments specific items. In Medicaid, the net effect of COVID was a cost of 49 million or approximately 80 basis points of our reported 89.6% MCR. Sequentially, the 60 basis point increase in our Medicaid MCR over second quarter was driven largely by this higher net effect of COVID in the quarter. Our year-to-date MCR is 88.8%. We continue to expect the full-year Medicaid MCR to be in the high 80s. In Medicare, the net effect of COVID had a favorable impact of approximately 16 million or 180 basis points of our reported 82.8% MCR. Sequentially, the 490 basis point improvement in our Medicare MCR was driven by two items. Approximately 390 basis point improvement in net effect of COVID, which includes curtailment and corridor-related true-ups, and approximately 100 basis points related to improved risk adjustment revenue. Our year-to-date Medicare MCR is 86.8%. We continue to expect a full-year Medicare MCR in the high 80s. In Marketplace, the net effect of COVID was a cost of approximately 44 million, or 570 basis points, of our 91.3% MCR in the quarter. Sequentially, our Marketplace MCR increased approximately 640 basis points, reflecting several items. Approximately 90 basis points of higher net effect of COVID. Roughly 250 basis points from normal third quarter seasonality associated with members reaching their policy deductible limits. And approximately 300 basis points from higher non-COVID utilization by members enrolled through the special enrollment period. and higher expected risk adjustment expense. Our year-to-date Marketplace MDR of 84.8% includes over 500 basis points of the net effect of COVID, as well as 280 basis points from the impact of the special enrollment period. Due to the higher than expected impact, we now expect Marketplace pre-tax margins for the full year 2021 to moderate to roughly break even. We expect our 2022 marketplace pre-tax margin will be squarely in line with our mid-single digit pre-tax margin target. Turning now to our balance sheet, our capital foundation remains strong. We harvested $127 million of subsidiary dividends in the quarter, which brought our parent company cash balance to $703 million at the end of the quarter. We have ample capacity to fund the announced acquisitions and additional strategic initiatives. At our current margins, we generate significant excess cash and additional debt capacity. At our investor conference in September, we sized that recurring parent cash capacity at $1.4 billion annually. Importantly, as we grow, that cash capacity also grows. Turning to reserves. Our reserve approach remains consistent with prior quarters, and we remain confident in our reserve position. Days and claims payable at the end of the quarter represented 49 days of medical cost expense, an increase of one day sequentially. Prior period reserve development in the third quarter was modestly favorable, but any P&L impact was mostly absorbed by the COVID-related risk corridors. Debt at the end of the quarter is 2.3 times trailing 12-month EBITDA. Our debt-to-cap ratio is 48%. However, on a net debt basis, net of parent company cash, these ratios fall to 1.6 times and 40% respectively. These metrics reflect a conservative leverage position. A few additional comments related to our guidance. We increased our full year 2021 premium revenue guidance to no less than $26.5 billion, reflecting the closing of affinity and growth in all segments. Earnings per share guidance remains at no less than $13.25 per share, which reflects the following. The net effect of COVID, which we recently increased to approximately $3 per share for the full year, offset by our underlying outperformance, and continued caution in forecasting utilization trends in the remaining months of the year due to the COVID pandemic. As previously conveyed, we continue to believe the incremental embedded earnings power of the company is in excess of $6 per share. This is composed of several items. The net effect of COVID of approximately $3 per share that should dissipate as the pandemic subsides. Medicare risk or disruption of approximately $1 per share And as we attain our target margins on the closed deals, including Magellan Complete Care, Passport, and Affinity, and the pending acquisitions of Cigna's Texas Medicaid business and AgeWell, we expect to achieve additional adjusted earnings per share well in excess of $2. As a reminder, this embedded earnings power does not represent 2022 guidance, but rather an accounting of the dynamic impacts that are temporarily suppressing our earnings profile. There are many other items that will affect our actual earnings guidance for 2022, including several possible scenarios for the impact of marketplace membership, as well as the ongoing impact of the pandemic and ongoing strategic initiatives. In short, our 2021 earnings jumping off point into 2022 remains very strong. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.
spk04: Thank you. We'll now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Matt Borsch from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk06: Yes, I was just hoping we could revisit the topic of the redeterminations and how you see that playing out next year. I know you talked at the beginning of the call about 700,000 members that you estimated have been added as a result of redeterminations. So I'm curious as to how many of those you think will roll off, if not perhaps potentially more, and over what time frame.
spk17: Matt, we are forecasting that when the public health emergency ends and all the redetermination activity is fulfilled, that we will end up with half the members we gained during the pandemic. And we say that because the low wage service economy has been ravaged. The stimulus money is still out there. And time has shown that over past recessions, when Medicaid roles have swelled. They stay increased when the crisis abates. So we're pretty confident that membership in Medicaid post-pandemic will exceed Medicaid membership pre-pandemic. Now, over what period is a matter of judgment. As you know, the PHE is now planned to extend into mid-January, which means the first members with notice periods and membership notification periods, the first members are eligible to roll off the books on April 1st. So we have forecasted that we will be down $500 million in revenue in 2022, an additional $800 million in revenue in 2023. So the $2.9 billion of revenue gained will result in $1.6 billion of permanent revenue gained. 500 million in 22, an additional 800 million in 23, 2.9 billion moving to 1.6. Fantastic.
spk04: Thank you. The next question comes from Josh Raskin from Nefron Research. Please go ahead.
spk07: Thanks. Good morning. My question is just on that embedded earnings power that you guys speak to and trying to figure out the cadence of realizing sort of those embedded earnings and you know, COVID feels a little bit like a step function potentially next year. So I'm just curious if there's big sort of step function impacts or if this is more a series of, you know, many, many incremental benefits and, you know, maybe just rough ballparks of sort of how we think about 22, 23, 24.
spk17: Sure, Josh. You know, a few of them are a function of time as our acquisitions mature. And then the wild card obviously is how much COVID will persist into 2022. So I'll turn it to Mark to give you an accounting of how we see the $6 emerging over time.
spk13: Mark? Hey, Josh. It's Mark. Just a reminder on the $6. It's three of COVID, a dollar of Medicare risk scores, and as Joe mentioned, $2 of the M&A. So let me add a little color to each one of them. On the Medicare risk scores, we should see that dollar next year. Our team can get out there, has gotten out there in a meaningful way to produce that dollar next year. So we feel good about that one. On the M&A, there's $2. We think about that $2 in two categories. The deals that are already in our P&L probably have another dollar of upside to get to the target margins. That's Magellan, Kentucky, stuff like that. The other dollar is deals that we've announced or in the case of Affinity just closed, but they're not in our P&L yet. About half of that dollar we should get in the first year, next year, and the other half thereafter. So that's some expectation on the M&A. So then you're back to the net effect of COVID, and that's the wild card.
spk00: A bunch of drivers there.
spk13: You know, sitting here at the end of October, I don't know that we're ready to give a view on how COVID progresses through 2022. But there's a couple things you can think about there. Part of the $3 is in our marketplace business. And we've had some headwinds this year. We've clearly priced for those headwinds next year. So we should see some reversal on that within the $3. The rest is going to be a function of what does the pandemic actually do? Do we have another variant? What is the non-COVID utilization? And of course, the corridors. Everything we know about the corridors so far is quite positive. We have several states, four states that have terminated the corridors for next year. and many that haven't given a formal view yet, but it looks very encouraging. So a number of drivers around that $3. Will we see some of it? I'm pretty sure, but I think it's just a little early to hazard a guess on how much.
spk07: Perfectly fair. And just one quick follow-up on the risk adjusters. You know, I know you said you're feeling good. I think in your prepared remarks, Mark, you actually mentioned that you're seeing some benefit already from risk adjuster improvement, and I was curious, how does that happen intra-year? In Medicare in particular, a couple of things.
spk13: So CMS actually extended the window for risk adjustment submission this year, which gave everyone the ability to get more work done and more adjustment in. So that's certainly a good guy. The other thing, in Illinois, Illinois expanded their MMP coverage to the full state. They were just a few regions before. So we went in and picked up a number of new members who are coming in really positive on a risk adjustment basis. So two nice drivers for us there.
spk04: Thanks. The next question comes from Stephen Baxter from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hi, thanks. I wanted to ask about the exchanges and your comments on refocusing on the silver plans. It does look to us like you might be pulling back somewhat on the bronze offering in some states. If that's right, we'd love to understand the thinking there and why you think pulling back versus repricing is the right approach. And just as you think about the comments around maybe flat to down enrollment for next year, how much of your exchange book today is coming from products that you will offer next year? Thanks.
spk17: Sure. Yeah, our repositioning of the product portfolio is is really a function of the enhanced subsidies. We can move and our brokers can move members from bronze to silver at zero premium and high subsidies with no additional cost to the member and they get a plan with a higher actual value. So it's better for the member. From our perspective, silver is more flexible and easier to manage. It's easier to develop risk scores and there's more pricing flexibility in silver. So we're going to emphasize more silver next year than we did this year. Our bronze silver mix is about 55-45 this year and will be more skewed to silver next year. So that's sort of our mix currently. Clearly the special enrollment period was another headwind this year. And with the change in the rules that now people eligible, people that will be eligible are only below 150% of federal poverty means that the membership flows from special enrollment in the industry should be a lot lower. In our case, we estimate about half of what they were this year. We added 200,000 members in special enrollment this year, and with the cutoff at 150% of FPL, that's likely to be at least cut in half. So we're forecasting that our membership will be flat to down off the 719,000 this year, which means revenue will probably be flat to down. But no matter where revenue lands, it's going to be earnings accretive in 2022. We are very confident in hitting our mid-single-digit pre-tax margin target next year, even on a membership base that's likely to be lower than this year.
spk02: Got it. Thanks. And just as a follow-up to that last point, I guess I'm I assume that, you know, when you make the comments about mid-single digits, you know, that doesn't require the impact of COVID to go to zero. It doesn't require you to necessarily get back that entire 500 basis points. We'd love just to kind of hear about your thought process on how much of that you could continue to tolerate and still achieve the margins. Thank you.
spk13: On that, clearly we're carrying 500 of COVID this year. I'm not going to get into our specific pricing assumptions, but we clearly anticipate more of that headwind next year, as well as just a little bit of what Joe mentioned about on the SEP. But we're pricing in a manner to hit that mid-single-digit pre-tax.
spk04: The next question comes from Michael Hall from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
spk05: Hey, thank you guys. So just a quick question on the 2022 embedded earnings, more of a clarification. It sounds like you mentioned greater than $6 CPS, which it feels like a little bit of an increase in price, which may be coming from pending acquisition margins now well in excess of $2. Is that true? And are you guys seeing better margin performance on acquisition?
spk17: I think I'll turn it over to Mark. But yes, as we add the acquisitions, they're going to be accretive. We're buying them very efficiently. Many of these properties are underperforming. Our integration teams are hitting, if not exceeding, our accretion targets. So as we add these acquisitions, they're going to be accretive. We wouldn't do them if they aren't. But yes, the age well acquisition, now that Affinity's in the fold, has served to sort of increase our forward look on embedded earnings. We still say it's $6 plus. And again, how much of that emerges next year and into 2023, we'll wait till we give specific guidance on 2022 in February.
spk05: Got it. Thank you. And just one more question, if I can. On exchanges, it sounds like back in your message today, you picked up 50,000 lives in July and August. It looks like you gained another $30,000 on top. Could you talk about what you're kind of seeing with special enrollment period now having ended and then just like typical exchange attrition with the premium tax credits and maybe some membership recapture from redetermination? Do you anticipate at some point returning back to normal attrition levels?
spk17: Well, the special enrollment period ended in August. We believe that we'll see attrition between now and the end of the year. It'll likely be lower than it was pre-pandemic. You know, we have 719,000 members now. We'll lose some and probably end the year maybe slightly below 700,000.
spk13: And remember, normal attrition for us is about 2% a month. As Joe mentioned, it should be a little bit less than that going through the rest of the year, but I think that's a fair outlook.
spk04: The next question comes from Justin Lake from Wolf Research. Please go ahead.
spk11: Thanks. A couple questions. First, can you talk a little bit about the difference in COVID spread for the exchanges versus Medicaid? Obviously, you've given a lot on the exchanges, but we think of these membership populations as somewhat fungible, I guess, outside of the duals. but I'm curious why you think that the exchange population is such a heavy COVID cause versus the Medicaid population really not being there. And then my second question is just on California Medicaid with the, you know, with the potential we're going to see an RFP here soon. I was hoping you can give us a little bit of an update. I know on your business there in terms of, you know, I know you, I think you have some business that's direct and then some that's partnered with and how you think this RFP is going to shake out in terms of what the state's looking for. Thanks.
spk17: Sure. Justin, on the marketplace and the COVID impacts, there are really two factors. One is geography. Our marketplace business just happens to be in places that were hit hard, particularly by the Delta variant, Florida, Texas, California, Washington. So it follows the geography and follows our marketplace footprint. The second, we believe, is our marketplace population skews younger. Unvaccinated people that are being infected, but the cost of care on an episode basis is actually a bit lower. But the infection rate is high in the younger population that tends to be unvaccinated. So those are the two factors that we cite that seems to disproportionately affect our marketplace business. On the California RFP, we believe we're very, very optimistic about our ability not only to hold on the business we have, but to grow it. As you know, we're very strong in LA. We're very strong in Sacramento and San Diego. We have a nice business in the Inland Empire. We have a great reputation with the state. We perform well. We do all the hard work we need to do with respect to community involvement and charitable giving. We're in really good shape for the California RFP, which supposedly, at least the latest announcement, will come in early 2022 for a contract date of 1-1-24. So we're in good shape in California. We're very optimistic about our prospects, not only to maintain what we have, but to grow.
spk04: The next question comes from Steven Valiquette from Barclays. Please go ahead.
spk18: Great. Thanks. Good morning, everybody. So with the list of action items you're taking to get the Marketplace MLR and the pre-tax margins back on track for 22 versus 21, among those, you know, pricing probably is the biggest lever. But for the other ones you mentioned, such as, you know, just redesigning the plan offerings and the more restrictive eligibility rules, Is there any color just on the range of how much those might move the needle on margins? Like, could those move margins in the hundreds of basis points, or is it mainly really about the pricing to move your margins by, let's call it, 500 basis points or so in 22 versus 21 in the marketplace business?
spk17: Thanks. A little bit of both. I mean, we priced to a medical cost trend in marketplace that was somewhat reflective of the increased baseline that we experienced this year impacted by COVID. Second, so we priced to an increased medical cost trend. Second, the special enrollment members were experiencing a loss ratio in the mid-90s. And if that membership, some of that membership will renew, some of it will go away. And then, of course, next year, the special enrollment period will be targeted at folks with 150% of federal property level incomes are down. So we believe that the special enrollment period membership will be half or less than half of what it was this year. So all of those factors combined put us in really good shape in producing our mid-single digit pre-tax margin target for next year. But as I said, likely on membership that is flat to down over 2021.
spk13: And the only thing I'd add there, Stephen, is with a big focus on margin rather than membership, we'll have a much higher component in our book of renewals. And the way risk adjustment works is we get much better scores on those renewals once we've lived with the member for a year or two. So we derive better risk adjustment revenue and certainly more confidence in the outlook of that revenue. Okay, that's helpful.
spk04: Thanks. The next question comes from AJ Rice from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi, everybody. Two quick questions. One, sort of talked around it on the marketplace, but a lot of people came on board this year. You've said it. Others have said it during the extended SEP, and it sounds like there may have been some adverse selection there. Do you think these people will re-up next year, or are you assuming... the aggregate enrollment on the exchanges is actually down because some of these people won't renew proactively. And then my other question was, I know you said you're up 300 basis points sequentially in non-COVID utilization and marketplace. Can you comment on where you are in the non-COVID utilization relative to 2019 or pre-pandemic or baseline, whatever you want to do, and Medicaid, Medicare, and I guess even that basis in Marketplace, if you don't mind.
spk17: Sure, I'll try to parse through the various questions. On the first one, we did assume in our pricing that some of the SEP membership would renew, therefore increase the cost trend that we included in pricing to accommodate that. Now, how many actually do renew and how many just joined? because of an episodic healthcare condition and will leave, we'll have to wait and see. But we did price as though some of those renewal member, some of those SEP members would renew. And we think we've captured that in the medical cost trend we've included in our pricing.
spk04: The next question comes from Kevin Fishbeck from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk03: All right, great, thanks. I just wanted to go back to the $3 COVID impact. I've heard a lot of companies initially size the COVID impact number and then slowly walk back kind of how we should expect it to come back or when we should expect it to come back or almost if we should expect it to come back. And I just wanted to hear how you guys are thinking. It sounds like the Medicare risk assessment number is relatively clear, but just want to make sure there's no issues about you know, reinvesting some of that or something like that so that the net number might be lower, and that if we should expect you guys to continue to kind of see that number for us as we head into next year and, you know, give us an update on where we are versus that $3 number, or does that just get hard to do and you're not going to be breaking that out for us?
spk17: I'll answer the first part of that, Kevin, and then I'll turn it to Mark. It's really difficult because even though our COVID results quarter to quarter, costing us 77 million bucks and a dollar per share, seemed like it was stable. The stories are quite different. In the second quarter, the COVID direct cost of care were less than $100 million, and it's twice that in the third quarter. And what ends up happening is when the COVID infection rates are really, really high and it's really intense, you get this counterbalancing impact. of utilization curtailment. People fear of contagion of going in for services. Hospitals are teeming with COVID patients and can't accept discretionary and elective procedures and the like. So the third quarter actually was one of our highest quarters, if not the highest quarter, for the direct cost of COVID-related care, but significantly offset with utilization curtailment. And then the corridors, the risk-sharing corridors, just kind of ripple through on a very stable basis. It's going to follow the infection rate, which makes it very hard to forecast. As we sit here today, we hope the Delta variant is over. We hope there are no additional variants, but we just don't know that yet. And so as we get closer to February, when we announce our fourth quarter results, we'll probably have a better handle. We will have a better handle on what we think COVID will do in 2022 and we'll announce it then. But the quarter-to-quarter results seem stable on a net basis, but the components are quite volatile, and it just follows the infection rate.
spk13: And just to build on that, Kevin, then what you have within what we call the net effect of COVID is the curtailment and the direct cost of COVID that Joe talked about As a company, those two have worked in tandem so far, but you'll have to take a view on that next year on how does COVID evolve and do we continue to see curtailment as the offset to that? We'll all need to take a view on that going into the new year. And then lastly on corridors, that is a component of our total net effect of COVID as well. As I mentioned earlier, we're optimistic that many states have already announced they won't have corridors in the new year, but how much of a continued drag will we have in some of the other states remains to be seen, but we're optimistic on that one. So that was $3 of the embedded earnings around the net effect of COVID. A dollar you mentioned on Medicare risk adjustment. As I mentioned, we continue to be very, very positive on the development of that dollar. Remember, the pieces that we gave aren't guidance. They're embedded earnings, which along with other headwinds or tailwinds can emerge. Medicare is looking pretty good. We'll see that dollar emerge. But don't forget, we'll have things like sequestration next year and a few other factors that could add additional headwinds and tailwinds. But we feel good about that dollar.
spk04: The next question comes from Scott Fidel from Stevens. Please go ahead.
spk08: Hi. Thanks. Good morning. I'm interested if you can give us some of your initial observations on how the 2022 Medicare AEP is progressing so far. And just interested in particular with a bunch of those new non-DSNP products that you rolled out for 2022. how those seem to be resonating in the market.
spk17: We think we're in good shape for growth next year. We're not giving a growth expectation on Medicare at this stage, but you're absolutely right. We launched some traditional Medicare Advantage products in some of our DSNIP footprint to capture folks who had incomes that didn't allow them to be eligible for DSNIP but were low income using the same network, the same facilities, and access through the same type of brokers who operate in those various areas. So we're really optimistic about our growth prospects as we launched our MAPD products to low-income individuals and our expanded DSNIP footprint and additional penetration in our existing footprint. We still do not have the market share that we think we can ultimately attain in our DSNIP footprint. So we're really bullish on the prospects during AEP this year, bearing in mind that we do get to enroll certain people throughout the year as well.
spk08: Got it. And then just as a follow-up, just interested if we can go back to the marketplace and just how you're thinking about the overall market environment for 2022 now that we have all the landscape data out, et cetera. I mean, we can certainly see that you're pricing You know, it's firm, certainly relative to the market, as you've been talking about, looking to regain margin. Clearly, for the market overall, a lot more issuers, right, in the market. Benchmark premiums are lower again next year. So just interested in how you're thinking about the competitive environment and sort of the level of rationality in it for the marketplace next year.
spk17: Sure, Scott. You know, our strategy is somewhat different than many of our competitors' strategies. We're targeting the working poor. We leverage our Medicaid network. We leverage our Medicaid network pricing. And our target market is fully or highly subsidized members. We are not targeting the mass affluent. That's number one. Number two, we did price this year to make sure that we hit our target margins of mid-single digit pre-tasks. The way we look at this business is the revenue is going to float up and down with a fixed target margin at mid-single digits. We will price for mid-single digit margins and we'll let the revenue float up and down. The marketplace is a residual market. It flushes up and down with Medicaid eligibility. It's 15 million members nationally strong. great shape in the markets that we choose to play in. And our target market is somewhat different than the target markets for many of these new competitors. So wherever revenue and membership lands for next year, it will be earnings accretive in 2022.
spk04: The next question comes from David Windley from Jefferies.
spk12: Please go ahead. Hi, thanks. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Joe, I wanted to kind of marry a couple of 4%s together. In your investor day, you talked about in your long-term growth expectations for Medicaid, kind of a 4% growth on the like-for-like base, presuming, I don't think you talked in detail, but presuming some of that's enrollment, some of that's a little bit of rate. When we look at your assumptions around retention of the redetermination, you're kind of assuming the 375 on your base at the beginning of the pandemic also works out to be about 4% per year growth if the pandemic weren't to have happened. I guess I'm wondering if the elevated retention of these pandemic lives, the redetermination lives, is not a little bit of a pull forward on the future or a double dip. And just wondering if you could elaborate on your thoughts around the ability to continue to grow the base 4%, even if you retain this higher level of redetermined lives.
spk13: Hey, it's Mark. I'll take that one. So you're right. On Medicaid, we talked about the base growing at 4%. which is, as you mentioned, probably half and half between rate and membership growth. That's the market continuing to grow. Now, what we stacked on top of that was the headwinds of redetermination. Joe talked through earlier how that was a half a billion in 22 and another 800 in 23. So your question gets back to, does that dampen the 2% membership growth? I think is where you're going. And we don't think it does, because at the end of the day, the pool of Medicaid eligible population continues to grow. So yes, you have redetermination, which is addressing people over the last two years, which maybe have lost eligibility. But if the overall pool is growing, and we believe it is, we showed a chart at Investor Day that shows every time the country goes through a crisis of one kind or another, these Medicaid rolls increase. but they don't go back to where they were. They're sticky at maybe half the growth quite frequently. So we think that overall pool is growing. So we'll have a little bit of a headwind of people from the past losing eligibility, but the pool of new folks coming in and newly eligible continues to grow. So we feel pretty confident in that outlook.
spk17: David, I always say that whether redetermination is a headwind or a tailwind depends on where you're measuring it from. we like to think of it as a value creator because we measure it from pre-pandemic. The Medicaid rolls will be higher post-pandemic than they were pre, even though year over year there might be some choppiness.
spk12: Got it. Thanks. And just one more question on non-COVID utilization. Are you seeing signs of changing acuity as non-COVID utilization comes back? It's not a topic that's gotten discussed very much.
spk17: Now, in many of our markets and in many of our products, it appears to be business as usual, particularly as the Delta variant started to dissipate in late September into October. In August, the Delta variant was really intense, and August utilization was very high, and we saw some curtailment there. But again, it flexes up and down almost routinely, flexes up and down with the intensity of COVID infection rate. So in many of our states and many of our products, curtailment is no longer, but it flexes up and down with the COVID infection rate.
spk04: Got it. Thank you. The next question comes from Gary Taylor from Cowan. Please go ahead.
spk14: Hi, good morning. Just a couple quick questions. As you were talking about 2022, you laid out some nice potential tailwinds. Wondering if there's anything notable on the headwind side to talk about now. I know you suggested COVID's obviously an unknown. You talked about a couple pharmacy carve-outs that I wouldn't imagine are material to earnings. Otherwise, you would have mentioned it. But any notable potential tailwinds headwinds we should be thinking about as we're updating models?
spk17: No, I think just, you know, I would say, you know, we've made some judgments around redetermination, certainly how much COVID persists into next year that you've identified. And then there's just the puts and takes of managed care. Are you capturing, you know, are you managing medical costs to your trend? But I can't think of an event-driven, a a headwind that is kind of event-driven or situationally driven. Just, you know, managing managed care, but we have a proven ability to always manage our medical costs to the trend that is embedded in our products and the pricing of our products. So we're pretty comfortable that 2022 could shape up to be a very attractive year for us.
spk14: Thanks. And then my other question would just be, how do we think about the roll-off of the COVID risk corridors impacting seasonality of margins and earnings in 22? Should we think the earnings become a little more back-end loaded than perhaps they had been pre-COVID?
spk17: Well, four states have eliminated them. Many of the states that are January 1st rating cycles have not yet declared whether they will continue them or not. The only one that actually is formally continued into next year is in Mississippi. So it's hard to say. As they're announced either to be eliminated or to persist, and whether they persist for a full year or half year is just largely unknown at this time. So I think your point is a correct one. Whatever happens will likely affect our quarter-to-quarter results next year. Whether it's back-ended or front-end loaded, I don't know yet. But the only corridor that actually has been announced that persists into 2022 because their state fiscal year straddles the calendar year is Mississippi.
spk04: Thanks, Joe. And our last question comes from Mike Newshell from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
spk16: Thanks. So you talked about, you know, the adverse selection in the special enrollment period this year. Are you worried at all that you might see some similar adverse selection, maybe to a lesser degree, from the monthly special enrollment periods for low incomes? And I guess in the same vein, for the Medicaid live subject to redetermination that you mentioned, would you expect differences in the acuity and margin profile of the half you expect to keep versus the half that goes?
spk17: No, on the Medicaid, I'll answer the Medicaid question first. On the Medicaid side, we're pretty comfortable that wherever membership goes, how much reduced membership there is because of redetermination, the margins that we're experiencing on the population should be thought of as our portfolio averages. There's actually very little evidence that the acuity of the population shifted all that much. And if it did, some of the states enacted retroactive acuity adjustments that are already embedded in our earnings. And then, of course, there's the corridors, where any favorable experience is given back through the corridor and not through your rates. So we're pretty comfortable saying when you think about membership increases and decreases in Medicaid due to redetermination, we think of it in terms of portfolio averages. On the marketplace side, we really increased the trend we embedded in the pricing of our product, which I think is demonstrated through some of the findings you've seen, where we really tried to capture not only the higher baseline due to COVID, but the higher acuity on what we were experiencing very early in the special enrollment process. And that coupled with the fact that we should have fewer members coming into our membership roles in special enrollment next year, again, gives us great confidence that that mid-single-digit pre-tax margin is attainable.
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