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spk04: Your host for today's call is Jason Tremblay. Jason, you may begin.
spk02: Thank you, and welcome to our fourth quarter and full year 2023 earnings call. Opening comments will be provided by Bruce Bodine, President and Chief Executive Officer, followed by a fireside chat, then open Q&A. Clint Freeland, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Jenny Wang, Executive Vice President, Commercial, will also be available to answer your questions. We will be making forward-looking statements during this conference call. The statements include but are not limited to statements about future financial and operating results. They are based on management's beliefs and expectations as of today's date and are subject to significant risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from projected results. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are included in our press release published yesterday in our reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We will also be presenting certain non-GAAP financial measures. Our press release and performance data also contain important information on these non-GAAP measures. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Bruce.
spk13: Good morning. Thank you for joining our call today. This is my first earnings call as Mosaic's CEO, and I'd like to begin by acknowledging Jaco Roark for his many contributions to the company. Jacques held this role for nearly a decade, and the company is much stronger today thanks to his leadership. Under Jacques, Mosaic expanded its footprint in Brazil with the successful Vale for Lazanches acquisition. We completed development of the world's largest potash mine, we transformed our cost structures, and we deleveraged and optimized our balance sheet. We have opportunities to improve returns and drive shareholder value by building on the current position of strength that JOC helped create. I look forward to evolving Mosaic's strategy and to helping all of you understand just how we will do that. So, for today, there are a few key messages that we would like you to take away from this call. First, phosphate markets are very strong. We expect dynamics to remain constructive for the foreseeable future and we are working to optimize our production so we can benefit fully. Second, we expect demand recovery in potash. In fact, we are seeing early signs of demand emerging in Brazil. That said, given current potash economics, we will be curtailing production from our Colance mine. Third, we are taking these actions as well as reducing costs and capital expenditures to improve through cycle returns. Finally, With our strong financial foundation in place, we remain committed to prudent capital allocation, selectively investing when risk-adjusted returns are compelling, and returning excess cash through share repurchases and dividends. For full year 2023, Mosaic generated revenue of $13.7 billion, adjusted EBITDA of $2.8 billion, and adjusted earnings per share of $3.57. We invested $1.4 billion in the business, refinanced $900 million in long-term debt, and returned $1.1 billion to shareholders, including over $750 million in share repurchases. Let's start by looking at the market. 2022 brought extreme volatility to fertilizer markets. High prices driven by supply disruption eventually reduced demand. In 2023, as prices retreated, customers returned in many key markets. The long-term global grain and oilseed supply and demand picture remains encouraging, with secular demand growth outpacing supply. In addition to population and income growth, demand for agricultural commodities is being driven by renewable fuel adoption, which we expect will continue to ramp over the next several years. Recent policy mandates have been announced in California the European Union and in Singapore, and additional mandates are expected in the future. This emerging source of demand has the potential to require tens of millions of additional acres of production. Short-term fundamentals also look positive. We believe that ongoing weather challenges in key growing regions, including Brazil, will result in grain production lower than what the market is anticipating. This suggests that already low stock-to-use ratios will remain under pressure and support a healthy grain price environment. On this point, there tends to be a lot of focus on the stock-to-use ratios for corn and soybeans. As you can see in the presentation materials we posted, these two commodities represent approximately 30% of the global potash and phosphate consumption. This means that 70% of consumption is tied to other crops, many of which are experiencing continued tightening in their ratios. We believe the result is that growers around the world continue to be incentivized to maximize yield and crop production through strong fertilizer applications. In North America, a long fall application season drove strong demand well into the fourth quarter. Solid winter fill activity tells us bins are near empty and channel inventories are low. We are seeing demand strength continue into the spring planting season, and sales volumes are mostly committed through March. In Brazil, barter ratios for both soybeans and corn are favorable, and while weather impacts have delayed fertilizer purchases, our outlook for full year 2024 is very positive, with expectations of fertilizer shipments at or near an all-time record, as growers need to replenish soil nutrients. Favorable ag commodity and fertilizer demand drivers are especially promising for phosphate markets. We expect global supply will remain tight, due in part to China's fertilizer export restrictions, as the government prioritizes domestic food security. Tighter environmental oversight has also had an impact with the reduction of domestic DAP production. China also continues to direct more acid to industrial markets, Lithium iron phosphate production has more than tripled in the last two years, and we expect growth to continue at a rapid pace. The competition for phosphate molecules is intensifying, and it will continue to do so for quite some time. This, together with limited capacity additions in the near future, suggests phosphate market fundamentals will remain constructive. For potash, supply is adequate to meet demand in the near term. and economics have not yet improved, which is why we intend to curtail production at Colance. We'll continue to monitor market developments and customer demand, and when needed, Colance will be prepared to return to service in short order. Overall, ag and fertilizer market dynamics remain solid. At Mosaic, we continue to focus on meeting customer needs, executing on our business strategy, optimizing our operations, in delivering value to shareholders. Turning now to fourth quarter results in our first quarter outlook. For the fourth quarter of 2023, Mosaic delivered revenue of $3.1 billion, adjusted EBITDA of $646 million, and adjusted earnings per share of 71 cents. Our potash business generated $322 million of adjusted EBITDA on sales volumes of roughly 2.6 million tons. With the port at Portland, Oregon back up and running, the team at Campitex had a strong finish to the year, enabling us to deliver sales volumes well within the range of our initial guidance. We expect sales volumes for the first quarter of 2024 in the range of 2 to 2.2 million tons and potash prices at the mine in the range of $225 to $250 per ton. In phosphates, we generated $259 million in adjusted EBITDA on sales volumes of 1.6 million tons. Realized stripping margins remained strong for the quarter, but were offset by lower cost absorption from lower production levels. For the first quarter, we expect phosphate sales volume in the range of 1.6 to 1.8 million tons, and DAP realized prices at the mine in the range of $580 to $605 per ton. Moving to our business in South America, despite the weather-driven fertilizer demand headwind in the fourth quarter, we delivered strong operating results. With adjusted EBITDA of $111 million, distribution business margins came in well above the historical normal annual range of $30 to $40 per ton. In the first quarter this year, we expect margins to recede from the fourth quarter as part of the normal seasonality of the business. The first quarter of each year typically has a higher amount of fertilizer volume going to Brazil's corn crop, which demands a higher percentage of nitrogen products, which historically generate lower and less consistent margins, and lower volumes of micro-essentials, which generates higher margins. As a result, margins are generally lower during the quarter, but improve from there, resulting in annual margins in line with our historic norm of $30 to $40 per ton. We executed well against our capital allocation strategy in 2023, and our balance sheet remains optimized. We spent $1.4 billion in CapEx and made significant progress on our investment projects. We refinanced $900 million in debt and returned $1.1 billion to shareholders through an increased dividend and share repurchases. Our returns included not only free cash flow, but also proceeds from asset sales, such as the sale of Streamsong Resort. Finally, I want to discuss our top strategic initiatives for 2024. First, we're focused on driving down costs. Over time, we expect to achieve at least $150 million in annual run rate savings off of a 2023 baseline, driven in part by savings from our global digital acceleration program which will go live later this year. Next, we'll continue to transform our operations to increase resilience and flexibility. Our top priority in phosphate is to improve our production volumes. We're working toward an annual run rate of 8 million tons over the next few quarters by enhancing the overall reliability and efficiency of our operations. To this end, we have a busy turnaround schedule at our Florida facilities in the first half of this year, as we target areas that have caused us the most significant maintenance issues. Next, we'll further expand our presence in Brazil, one of the most dynamic agricultural regions in the world, by completing a 1 million ton distribution facility at Pomerantse to serve the fast-growing northern region of the country. We'll also further strengthen our product portfolio by growing non-commodity products, We're expanding micro essentials capacity at our Riverview plant here in Florida and we expect those additional tons later this spring. We anticipate that more than half of our phosphate sales will be value added products, which clearly is a differentiator for us. In addition, we're planning for the next generation micro essentials pro, which is delivering significant yield improvements in field testing. MicroEssentials Pro will also extend our patent protection until 2038. Finally, we will remain true to our disciplined capital allocation strategy. In 2024, we expect to reduce total capital spending by about $200 million and will continue to return excess cash to shareholders. To summarize, our outlook for agriculture and fertilizer markets remains positive. At Mosaic, we have a strategic roadmap to optimize returns through the business cycle, to grow, and to decommoditize our product offerings. And we have a very strong financial foundation from which to operate. I'm looking forward to updating you on our progress as the year proceeds. Now, let's move to Q&A.
spk02: Before we move on to the live Q&A, as we have done in the past quarters, we would like to address some of the most common questions that we received after we published our earnings materials last night. For our first question, Bruce, a number of analysts have asked questions about potash and phosphates. Market dynamics of these two crop nutrients seem to be diverging, with phosphates being strong while potash is finding its way. Can you tell us how you see these markets developing as the year progresses?
spk13: I think this is a good way to characterize current market conditions. Phosphate markets are very positive due to strong demand, low inventories and a tight supply situation globally leading to some of the strongest stripping margins in the last decade. We believe stripping margins will remain elevated for the remainder of the year. Looking at the key regions, in North America channel inventories are low and we are seeing strong demand for spring planting. For Mosaic specifically, we continue to operate at minimum inventory levels and our first quarter sales are almost fully committed. In Brazil, Inventories are well below the five-year range, and our outlook for the year remains positive as growers need to replenish soil nutrients. India's proposed subsidy rates announced earlier this month showed an increase for phosphate fertilizers from the prevailing rates in the fourth quarter of last year, but importer margins remain negative. With very strong grower demand and low inventories, which are at the low end of the five-year range, subsidies should move higher. In China, we are seeing an increased focus on food security. The government is limiting exports to ensure adequate domestic supply while also meeting rising industrial demand. We expect these dynamics to continue to limit exports for the foreseeable future. Industrial demand, particularly China's lithium iron phosphate market, has been very strong, with production more than tripled in the last two years to 1.7 million tons of finished fertilizer product equivalent in 2023. We expect additional production growth in the future as demand continues to soar. Overall, this leads us to conclude that phosphate markets will remain constructive for the rest of the year. In potash, the supply constraints from Belarus and Russia seen in the past few years will continue to abate in 2024. On the demand side, we see stability in North America. In fact, our winter fill program was fully sold And similar to phosphates, we are almost fully committed for Q1. In Southeast Asia, particularly Malaysia and Indonesia, high-priced inventories were worked down in 2023. Two years of underapplication in those markets will put further strain on crop yields if nutrients are not replenished. We are seeing significant pent-up demand in that region. In China, while potash inventories are higher than historical periods, The fertilizer stock-to-use ratio is normal due to increasing on-farm demand as a result of favorable pricing. It's been reported that China intends to increase its strategic reserves, meaning that inventories will have to remain higher than historical periods to meet this objective. We also expect lower Chinese domestic production as a result of the recent news capping production in its key potash basin due to environmental concerns. combination of these factors should drive a need for continued high import volumes to meet the demand the weather in brazil has slowed demand in the near term but we are seeing early signs of demand emerging and potash prices moving up slightly in fact when you look at the entire fertilizer market we expect shipments to be at or near peak levels in 2024 putting these factors together We expect the pace of global potash shipments to improve as 2024 progresses.
spk02: Thanks, Bruce. As a follow-up question, given the market backdrop you just described, what actions are you planning to take?
spk13: Well, given the strength of phosphate markets, Mosaic's focus is on increasing our phosphate production volumes and further improving our margins by increasing our micro-essentials volumes. Getting our production to an annual run rate of 8 million tons not only increases revenue, but also significantly reduces our unit costs. MicroEssentials generates significant yield improvements, and as a result, generates superior margins for farmers, retailers, and Mosaic. For Mosaic, not only do we earn a premium margin in our phosphate segment, but we also command a premium margin in Brazil as we capture the retail premium for these products. In Potash, Mosaic is focusing on flexibility and cost management. The curtailment of production at our Kalansay site demonstrates our commitment to flexibly managing our network to ensure our low-cost sites at Belle Plaine and Esterhazy operate at capacity while Kalansay is only used when market conditions dictate. We have a couple of projects that will increase our product mix flexibility before the end of the year. This will enhance our ability to adjust our end product mix to respond to changes in the market conditions more effectively in order to optimize our cost structure and margins. In addition to cost reductions in our operations, we are focused on driving SG&A reductions and optimizing our investments in CapEx and working capital. These initiatives will ensure our customer demand is met, our through-cycle financial performance will continue to advance, and shareholder value is maximized.
spk02: Okay. Our next question is related to Mosaic for Lizonte. Brazil remains a problematic region for many ag input companies. What is your outlook for 2024?
spk13: This is a fair observation. A lot of these companies are still in the process of destocking excess high-cost inventories or writing off their assets given the challenging market conditions. At Mosaic, we took early action to complete the destocking of high-priced inventory in the first half of 2023 without any significant write-offs. As a result, we entered the second half of the year in a great position, and it shows in our margins. The margin per ton in our distribution business returned to the $30 to $40 range in the third quarter and came in above that range in the fourth quarter. In 2024, we expect record or near record fertilizer shipments, despite lower fertilizer demand in quarter one due to weather conditions, as growers continue to be incentivized by constructive barter ratios and the need to replenish soil nutrients. From a distribution margin perspective, we expect normal seasonality on a per ton basis, lower than the normalized annual range in the first quarter, but within the range for the full year. Changing topics.
spk02: There's a question about capex. You're indicating that spending will decline by approximately $200 million this year. How do you see that capex evolving longer term?
spk13: We're coming out of a period of elevated capex due to an unusual number of high returning opportunity projects from across the business. We're coming to the end of these projects, and as a result, our spending is declining. In addition to the 200 million reduction in 2024, we anticipate a further reduction in 2025 with a longer term run rate to be at or below $1 billion.
spk02: Thanks, Bruce. And with that, we will now move to the open question and answer session. Operator, please open the line for follow-up questions.
spk04: Absolutely. And as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then 1. To remove yourself from queue, please press star then 2. And each questioner will be limited to one question. Today's first question comes from Steve Byrne with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk11: Bruce, you mentioned a couple of times you know cropland needing to replenish soil nutrients when i look at your your forecast for global shipments of phosphate and potash uh this is slide eight it doesn't really support that thesis there's this what looks like potentially a a massive deficit of of consumption in the last two years of both nutrients you know close to 10 million tons on each and yet your forecast for 24 on both is just kind of like where it was in 2021. Is that a conservative view, or is that based on a view that those nutrient levels were maybe above normal in the world, and therefore it's not needed to be replenished?
spk13: Hey, Steve, good talking to you. Thanks, Sepp. We share your view that there's been under application of fertilizer for the last couple of years for sure, and nutrients have been depleted from the soil. I think that's why we're pretty bullish on where things return from a supply standpoint or demand standpoint on both P and K at or near record shipments in those markets. And, you know, maybe I'll turn it over to Jenny a little bit to talk maybe a little bit about the specifics in each individual market to better answer, I think, what you're getting at.
spk00: Steve, I think we definitely don't believe that there was sufficient PNK in the soil where it would allow farmers to mine without replenishing the fertilizers. We have seen the evidence over the last two years and As you may recall, we shared one slide last call that will show the yield impact due to under applications, especially on potash. So why we're projecting a higher demand for 2024? Partially it is related to the supply situation. We believe that the global shipment this year and beyond is that we will continue to see a very strong demand tailwind as the growers need to replenish these nutrients in order to pursue their yield aspiration. And in particular this year, as we forecast the demand growth or recovery on potash, we are going to see some broad recovery in the market where we usually don't talk about the smaller market in Asia, the smaller market in Latin America. After two years under application, the farmers have realized that they need to put down fertilizer, P and K, into the field. And that just actually has been built into our demand forecast in this year. Thanks.
spk04: Thank you. And our next question today comes from Richard Garciaterina with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
spk12: Great. Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to ask, now that you have decided to curtail Colance, what are you expecting in terms of operational capacity for Mosaic in 2024? What levels of demand or price would you need to see to make the decision to restart Colance? And then maybe some color in terms of the cash cost differences this year versus last year with Esterhazy up and running and Colance down. Thanks.
spk13: Thanks, Richard. For sure, in the short term here, potash supply is adequate to meet demand. And we made the decision to curtail Colance's production, not based on one factor. So as we continue to evaluate the flexibility within our network. We're looking at not only the market and customer demands, but also really how do we consider shareholder value as well. And I think that's getting to your point. And we'll continue to do that. And at the current time, the economics just didn't make sense. But if you look at the broader 2024, for the whole year, we're very optimistic about, you know, demand recovery, particularly on potash. and let Jenny talk about some areas in a minute. But in the meantime, you know, we're going to shut Colance down. We've done this before. We've demonstrated our resolve to flexibility, you know, moving that mine up and down. We can do that very quickly, and we can restore things very quickly as well. And as we expect, when market demand, you know, returns, will, in short order, return production at Colonte, again, if the market demand is there and if we determine shareholder value is there as well. And, you know, some of the complexities are, well, what's going on with the rest of our network and turnaround schedules and things like that. Those things have to come into, you know, the analysis as well. But all of this is designed, as we've said earlier, to really let Bell Plain and Esterhazy, our two low-cost companies, production facilities run at full rate and continue to extract maximum value out of those two facilities. So Jenny, maybe you want to talk about a little bit of the market dynamics and why we expect pricing to be pretty good for the rest of the year.
spk00: Sure, Bruce. I think I probably just want to build on the earlier comment on the potash demand recovery. In 2023, last year, the recovery of the demand was over 13% and added 8 billion tons. The biggest recovery in the market was North America. We saw 27% of the demand increases over the previous year, and we are seeing very strong consumption increases and growth in China. And apart from these two major markets, in India, in Brazil, we have all seen over 18% of the demand increases last year on potash. So as we get into 2024, we continue to expect the growth of potash demand in Brazil, in India, and we are going to see a much broader demand recovery from the other market, as I mentioned earlier. Smaller market in Asia, smaller market in Latin America, and all this demand projection will need to have the supply to meet the demand. When we look at the supply side of the equation, in late 2023, we've seen some recovery of the shipment out of Belarus and Russia, and also some incremental tons from Laos. As we get into 2024, the season itself, we are in the typical low season time, and we are watching the market dynamics. And we believe we are at or close to the price bottom in the market. In fact, we have seen some major price recovery over the last two weeks in Brazil. So as Bruce mentioned earlier, we run our business, our potash operation, to meet our customer's demand. And in the meantime, we want to maximize value creation for the shareholders as well. So that's an economic decision.
spk04: Thank you. And our next question today comes from Joel Jackson with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk06: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the call. Two questions. Bruce, congrats on the promotion here at First Call. You said that phosphate margins should remain elevated. Talk about how strong phosphate is. Can you comment on that a bit more? Do you expect in Q1 that phosphate margins would be better, the same, or lower than Q4 margins? And would that be on EBITDA or gross margin basis, on other basis? Thanks.
spk13: Hey, Joel, thanks for your kind words. On phosphates, Liz, the bottom line is supply is extremely tight. And, you know, we talked about that balance and even as much as demand, if you theoretically could go higher, it is going to be tough to reach, you know, supply. with the restrictions out of China and the things that we talked about in one of the fireside chat questions. So that is driving pretty good stripping margins in this business, some of the best we've seen over the last decade, and we do expect that to continue. We may see pricing bobble a little bit just due to seasonality throughout the year, but we do believe our realized stripping margins, given raw material pricing on sulfur and ammonia and what we have projected for the year, will continue to stay relatively flat and strong for the remainder of the year. Thank you.
spk04: And our next question today comes from Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
spk08: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Can I just ask about, on the phosphate production side, what you're anticipating coming out of Morocco this year? It seems like they ran at lower rates last year? Are you expecting that to continue into this year? And what are you expecting in terms of imports into the U.S. market year over year, given I guess there's still some uncertainty over countervailing duties? But an update on those issues would be helpful. Thank you.
spk13: Yeah, Vincent. Yeah, thanks. Good talking to you today. It's something we watch pretty closely is what's going on in that part of the world, as you can imagine. I know Jenny and her team and our market analysis team and economic team are really looking at that, so I'm going to turn it over to her to provide a little more detail on the commentary.
spk00: Hi, Vincent. Yes, I think we've been watching very closely on OCP's shipment. Last year, we've seen some major recovery of their phosphate fertilizer export, especially in the second half of the year. This is basically bringing their export towards to their record level over the last few years. In the meantime, we're seeing some major reduction on their phosphate rock export last year. And that was actually less than half of the tons they exported in the record year back in 2021. And their fossil asset exports were basically very flat. So to think about OCP's supply into 2024, our forecast is that they're going to continue to keep their normal way of operation, and that they might add a little bit into their new granulation capacity, but not really in a big deal. So even with this recovered OCP supply and increased a small amount of fertilizer production, we believe 2024 phosphate supply will stay as tight.
spk04: Thank you. And our next question today comes from Irim Rodriguez with Missouri. Please go ahead.
spk05: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I mean, Bruce, you've talked about like the strength of phosphate prices, you know, which is clearly the case. But any concerns that if prices stay way above the other nutrients, like this could incentivize farmers to cut back in phosphate if they start thinking about their expenses and so forth, given the decline in crop prices?
spk13: Edlund? The economic on the farm topic is a great one and something, again, we're paying a lot of attention to. You know, with the, where soy and corn, I'm sorry, soybeans and corn prices are right now, we do see still pretty affordable economics overall when you look at the portfolio of nutrients, right? And that's, you know, NPNK. And even though, you know, phosphate is, Because of the tight supply that Jenny has outlined before and we talked about in one of the fireside questions, prices are elevated, but we have seen potash come down significantly and nitrogen at a more moderate level as well. Combined, I think fertilizer affordability from a percentage of on-farm revenue is actually pretty reasonable compared to the last two years. So we're not anticipating any demand destruction due to pricing of the total nutrient package for farmers depending on their crops. And the other one that we talked about, and it's in some of our materials, is we've made a lot about corn and soybean prices, but corn and soybean demand is really only 30% of the global fertilizer demand. The rest, 70%, is in you know, other grain and oil seeds and non-grain and oil seeds markets. And we're seeing a lot of tightness in some of those markets and actually quite favorable economics when it comes to nutrient affordability. So, you know, overall, I think the competitiveness of nutrients and demand is there. The incentive is there. Again, driven by lack of fertilization in the last couple years, good affordability, The tailwinds that are being provided on some of the biofuel stuff as well, I think it's very constructive that hopefully ag commodity prices continue to moderate up and then continue to drive good demand to maximize yields on the farm. Jenny's got one more point she wants to make.
spk00: Yeah, just want to, Bruce, just want to provide one more data point. As we are watching corn soybean prices and all the tensions were on corn soybean, and if you look at other major commodities like rice, the price is very, very supportive. And today, actually, in fact, today, India export price for rice is setting a new record. So that tells you, actually, if you go beyond corn and soybean, the other commodities are very constructive in terms of the prices and also the farm economics.
spk04: Thank you. And our next question today comes from Andrew Wong with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk07: Thank you for taking my questions. So on the phosphate production, What's your expectation on when you could return to an 8 million ton annual run rate? And when that happens, what's your expectation on phosphate rock costs and conversion costs?
spk13: Andrew, thanks. We've been talking about this for a few quarters, and it's a big focus area for us strategically, particularly given strong margins that are in the market today given the high demand, limited supply. We have stated and continue to state that we're on our path over the next few quarters to get to an 8 million ton annual run rate. We're confident in that. Last year, second half of the year, we had some impacts with two of our large sulfuric plants in Louisiana went down. Both of those have now returned to service. We had a major turnaround at the end of last year and another sulfuric plant down at Bartow. Again, both of those are done and back to service. So we are starting to see, you know, gradually a return to that. But as mentioned in some of the fireside chat comments, we do have a heavy turnaround schedule, you know, baked into the first half of this year. So getting to that 2 million ton level more towards the end of the year, Part of that is with this turnaround schedule to continue to focus on some of those actors that have caused us some maintenance, unplanned maintenance issues over the last couple of years. So again, confident we're going to get there by the end of the year. It's needed. And that's what we're going to continue to do is focus on our asset health. And we've been infusing a lot of our sustaining capex, by the way, to actually do that over the last two years as well. Look forward to that near the end of the year. Clint has something to add, I think, on the economics piece.
spk09: Thanks, Bruce. Andrew, when we look at the impact of moving our production back up to that target level, I think on a cost per ton basis, and I think that was part of your question, you would likely see something on the order of magnitude of call it $20 to $25 a ton improvement in that per unit cost. you know, it's material as we begin to ramp up to those target levels.
spk13: Yeah, and thanks, Glenn. And even on top of that, Andrew, you know, we've talked about our cost reduction initiatives just in addition to that, but we expect to layer in, you know, $150 million of cost reductions, you know, through the enterprise. Looking at G&A spending, some of the operations benefits of getting back to full production, working capital management, and then just overall CapEx reduction. So add into the absorption benefits that Clint talked about, plus some of these other initiatives to really wring out costs from the enterprise through a cycle, you know, economics should be much more favorable.
spk04: Thank you. And our next question today comes from Jeff Stachowskis with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
spk10: Thanks very much. I was wondering if you can clarify some issues around your relationship with modern. Is that a joint venture that you wish to invest in over time further in, you know, through capacity expansion? It's also the case that historically the cash that that's to come from the equity income has been much lower. Is there a cash benefit that you get in the future that catches you up from the equity income that you've made? Or does it turn out that you don't catch up?
spk13: Hey, Jeff, no, thanks. As you point out, that joint venture for us is important part of our portfolio of assets for sure. Not only do we gain market access in markets like India with some of the tons that we have there, we get a lot of market intelligence through that joint venture as well. As far as do we have interest in future investment, I don't think that's in the top of our priority list. I never want to say never, depending on what the... return on economics could be in such an investment, but I think we've got better focus areas for any of our, you know, cash and liquidity that we may put to something else. But, you know, at the end of the day, the modern joint venture at Saudi Arabia has been a great partnership, and we've seen that really mature over the, you know, the course of this relationship. And, you know, It's got to continue to earn a spot in our portfolio for sure on a long-term basis, but right now we're fairly happy with the results and where that is running. They just came off a record year at MWSPC on a production standpoint as well, so we're really starting to extract value out of that in a way that we hadn't previously. But I'm going to turn it over to Clint to talk about a little bit more of the economic questions that you had.
spk09: Hi, Jeff. I think you noted the differential between the equity earnings over time and cash. I think our first cash dividend was actually paid out last year. I think total equity income last year for us was roughly $57 million. So we did get part of that in the form of a dividend. But one of the things that has been the focus of Modden over the past say two to three years has been on debt reduction. So a lot of the earnings and the cash generation of the joint venture has actually gone to paying down some of the debt load. And I think overall, you know, order of magnitude debt has been paid down by about a billion and a half dollars. So, you know, firming up the capital structure of the project. And so I think that that's one of the main reasons why you see that differential between equity earnings and actually, you know, cash, being paid out to us and the partners. One thing to also note, and again, it's relatively modest, but we also do get marketing fees and earn some level of income on some of the tons that we do sell. But again, that's one of the reasons why you've seen that differential between equity earnings and cash, because a lot of the cash has actually been going to managing the balance sheet and paying down debt.
spk04: Thank you. And our next question comes from Rickon Patel with BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. You covered the guidance topics quite well earlier, but I was wondering if you could provide some outlook on the working capital requirement for 2024. I suppose just given the context of the significant release you had last year, would you expect to see working capital investment next year? Thank you.
spk13: Hey, Rick. Thanks for joining us and appreciate the question. Working capital has been, if I understood your question right, broke up a little bit in the beginning for me. It has been a focus for us across all of our major markets. I think we've done a pretty good job of managing that risk compared to others in the space. But I'm going to turn it over to Clint to maybe talk a little bit more about how we think about working capital.
spk09: Yeah, thanks, Bruce, and thanks for the question, Rick. As you noted, over the last couple of years, we've seen pretty significant changes in working capital, and a lot of that has been driven by the price environment. So you saw a significant increase in working capital and use of cash in 2022, and then you've seen a pretty material release of cash in 2023 as the pricing environment changed. A lot of times, one of the things that is also a significant contributor to that is our distribution business in Brazil as they manage inventory levels and so forth around some of those price changes. As we look out, I think it's going to be driven by the price environment. I think we are putting some renewed focus on things like inventory turns and days of payables and receivables and really trying to work even harder to manage those to, again, manage the level of working capital that's needed. The other thing that I would note is over the last couple of years, we've tried to set up some funding alternatives to assist us in managing through some of those seasonal, particularly seasonal elements of working capital needs So, you know, we've had a number of things like an inventory line, some receivable securitization facilities put in place. You know, when we got our rating, debt rating upgrade to BBB flat, BAA2, we also set up a commercial paper facility. And what we try to do is to maintain a certain level of funding to, again, take away some of those seasonal moves and to reduce some of the cash drag on the company throughout the year. So again, focusing on those two areas. One is just the absolute level of working capital. And again, that'll be dictated by price environment. But then also trying to be pretty thoughtful on how we fund that through the year and not just be using cash for that purpose.
spk04: Thank you. And our next question comes from Josh Spector with UBS. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hi, good morning. So I wanted to follow up on phosphate margins specifically. I think versus most models out there, pricing came in higher, but gross margins were lower in the fourth quarter. So I'm just trying to square the sequential gross margin move, if we think about it in gross margin per ton, into first quarter here. So you're saying the stripping margin stays high, but pricing, you're guiding up $40. We talked about more volume leverage in the first quarter. So is there a way to square all these moving parts between what you did in fourth quarter versus what you're expecting from a gross margin per ton perspective in the first quarter? Thanks.
spk13: Yeah, Josh, thanks. We are seeing a little bit of expansion there for sure. The other part is our costs aren't going to necessarily come down as fast given the turnaround schedule I talked about earlier. So that's still going to be a little bit of a drag, but Overall, we still see those healthy realized stripping margins. You've got to think about, and I'm going to turn it over to Clint in a minute and maybe talk a little bit more about it, but our advantage position on ammonia and our access to low-cost sulfur really kind of differentiates us a little bit from the industry stripping margin, what we get on a realized stripping margin, given that a good portion of our ammonia consumption comes from our Faustina facility in-house. And, of course, our advantage contract with CF. So we do still think stripping margins are going to be good. Gross margins, realize, will be good. But maybe, you know, given the cost pressures, we're still going to see a little bit of a slowness and full recovery of that. And, Clint, maybe you can talk a little bit more about that.
spk09: Yeah, the only thing that I would add on that around our in-house ammonia is, You know, we made, uh, we had, uh, I guess a turnaround about 18 months ago in Louisiana, uh, around, uh, Made some investments in our converter at the facility and it's as a result has had much higher reliability. Um, and, and again, as, as we've seen some, you know, the level of production that we've had, we've been able to lean on that a little bit more as a proportion of our ammonia sourcing, as well as the CF contract. So we've been less dependent on some of the market, uh, purchases and as a result. As an example, in the fourth quarter, about 35% of our ammonia was actually sourced in-house. And again, so that's helpful from a comparative cost standpoint. So as we go forward, as production ramps back up, overall finished product production ramps back up, we'll need to access a little bit more on the market. But again, in this environment at this point in time, we're getting more benefit maybe than we naturally historically have from our in-house production. production of ammonia.
spk04: Thank you. This concludes today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Bruce Brodine for any closing remarks.
spk13: Well, thank you, operator. To conclude our call, I'd like to reiterate our key messages for today. First, the global phosphate market, as we've discussed, is very strong, and we expect favorable dynamics to continue throughout the remainder of the year. Potash demand is emerging, and we talked about that, and we expect a strong rebound in global demand this year. And third, we're executing plans to optimize our operations so that we can benefit fully from strong markets while improving Mosaic's resilience. And finally, our capital allocation strategy is not changing. We will invest in pursuit of compelling returns and return excess cash to shareholders. So thanks everyone for joining our call today, and I hope that you have a great and safe day.
spk04: Thank you, sir. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.
spk13: And I hope that you have a great and safe day.
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