MPLX LP

Welcome to the MPLX Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. My name is Sheila, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Press star 1 on your touch-tone phone to enter the queue. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Kristina Kazarian. Kristina, you may begin.

Good morning and welcome to the MPLX third quarter 2020 earnings webcast and conference call. The synchronized slides that accompany this call can be found on MPLX.com under the investor tab. On the call today are Mike Hennigan, president and CEO, Pam Beal, CFO, and other members of the management team. We invite you to read the safe harbor statements and non-gap disclaimer on slide two. It's a reminder that we will be making forward-looking statements during the call and during the question and answer session that follows. Actual results may differ materially from what we expect today. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are included there, as well as in our filings with the SEC. Now, I will turn the call over to Mike Hennigan for opening remarks.

Thanks, Kristina. Good morning and thank you for joining our call. Earlier today, we reported adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of 2020 of $1.3 billion, a slight increase versus our second quarter 2020 EBITDA. Our performance during the third quarter highlights the stability of our underlying business, the quality of our contracts, and execution on our capital and operating expense reductions to help offset what we knew would be a challenging environment. With our EBITDA growing over time and our continued emphasis on strict capital discipline, our leverage can naturally be reduced. To that end, we have obtained board authorization for a unit repurchase program for the repurchase and retirement of up to $1 billion of the company's outstanding publicly traded limited partner common units. By getting board approval now, this program will allow us to make repurchases of our common units at the appropriate time and provide us with an attractive opportunity to return value to our unit holders. Turning to slide four, a key part of our path to positive cash flow is continued capital spending discipline. We continue to be on track to achieve our 2020 capital reduction of over $700 million as we continue to focus on opportunities with the most attractive returns. Turning to slide five, I would take a moment to provide some comments on our responsibilities around sustainability and corporate leadership. As a result of our continued refinement of our ESG perspectives, I want to mention two additional and important initiatives the Combined Enterprise has established incremental to the announcement earlier this year to reduce greenhouse gas emissions intensity to 30% below 2014 levels by 2030. First, we have established a 2025 goal to reduce methane emissions intensity from our GMP business to 50% below 2016 levels. Second, we are focusing on conserving and managing use of water. Through our efforts in this area, the combined enterprise has reduced freshwater withdrawal intensity by over 10% since 2015 and expects to further reduce it by an additional 10% by 2030. Shifting to slide six, we recently published our 2020 Perspectives on Climate-Related Scenarios report. This is the fourth year the MPC Enterprises published a TCFD compliant report which highlights the opportunities and strategic planning work the company is engaged in related to climate scenarios. We also published our 2019 Sustainability Report in late July, which expands upon efforts in environmental, social, and governance aspects of the business. With the publication of the 2019 Sustainability Report, we also published a Sustainability Accounting Standards Board or SASB Midstream Supplement, highlighting the specific topics and metrics within our 2019 Sustainability Report as it pertains to SASB's industry-specific sustainability accounting standards. We look forward to continuing our ESG journey and our commitment to stakeholder engagement with our team of employees, business partners, customers, and communities. We view sustainability as the fundamental process of shared value creation, and how we conduct our business enhances the performance we deliver. Now let me turn the call over to Pam to discuss our third quarter 2020 operational and financial results.

Thanks, Mike. Turning to slide seven. MPLX delivered third quarter adjusted EBITDA of $1.3 billion and distributable cash flow of $1.1 billion, which provided continued strong distribution coverage of 1.44 times. Our results for the quarter once again highlight the resiliency of our underlying business as well as the execution of our forecasted $200 million of operating cost reductions to help offset a challenging demand environment, allowing us to continue to generate strong cash flow and adjusted EBITDA. For the quarter, we generated positive cash flow after investments in the business and distributions to unit holders. We used this cash to reduce total debt outstanding from the end of the second quarter to the end of the third quarter, and we ended the third quarter with leverage of four times. During the quarter, we refinanced our 2021 debt maturities at very attractive rates, along with some of our notes due in 2022 and 2024 that carried coupons of 6.25% or higher. Slide 8 shows the third quarter logistics and storage business segment highlights. Volumes across our pipeline and terminal systems were lower compared with the third quarter of 2019, primarily driven by lower refinery utilization at MPC's refineries. However, we did see sequential increase in both pipeline and terminal throughputs versus the second quarter of 2020. During the third quarter, the Wink to Webster Permian Crude Oil Pipeline project achieved mechanical completion on the main segment connecting the Permian Basin to Houston, Texas. The main segment of the pipeline system was commissioned with Permian Crude Oil from Midland to Houston in October, and service is expected to be available to shippers in the fourth quarter. We have a 15% equity ownership interest of this joint venture. The pipeline system has 100% of its contractible capacity committed with minimum volume commitments. Additional segments offering shippers further service are expected to be placed in service throughout 2021. The Whistler natural gas pipeline project also continued to progress. The two BCF per day capacity project is more than 90% committed with minimum volume commitments. We continue to expect the startup of the project in the second half As we noted last quarter, MPLX, Whitewater Midstream, and West Texas Gas formed a joint venture to provide NGL takeaway capacity from MPLX and WTG's gas processing plants in the Permian to Sweeney, Texas. This optimized approach will largely use existing infrastructure with limited initial construction. Commercial NGL Transportation Service to Sweeney, Texas is expected to commence in the second half of 2021. Slide nine provides third quarter gathering and processing business segment highlights. For the third quarter of 2020, gathered and processed volumes were lower than the same period last year across most of our footprints, with a few exceptions including West Texas, and the Marcellus, where gathered volumes increased 3% and processed volumes increased 8%, respectively. Processed volumes in the Marcellus reached a record 5.7 billion cubic feet per day. Total fractionated volumes averaged 567,000 barrels per day, representing a 4% increase over the third quarter of 2019. Record fractionated volumes were primarily driven by a 10% increase in the Marcellus, where volumes increased with the Hopedale 5 fractionator, which came online during the third quarter. Despite the pressure on commodity prices, as global demand remains significantly below historical levels, we remain optimistic in the outlook for both natural gas and NGL demand and price recovery. The recent recovery in futures prices is beneficial for our natural gas and NGL producer customers as they can take advantage of hedging opportunities and realize a positive impact on operating results as well as their borrowing base redetermination. We expect producers will continue to apply the benefits of an improving price environment to their balance sheets to address near-term debt maturities and improve their financial flexibility. We're also encouraged by the consolidation that's occurring among our producers. which should result in counterparties with a stronger financial profile. Moving to our financial highlights, on slide 10, adjusted EBITDA was 1.3 billion for the third quarter of 2020. The logistics and storage segment adjusted EBITDA was 893 million, while the gathering and processing segment contributed 442 million in adjusted EBITDA. For the quarter, we generated approximately 1.1 billion, of Distributable Cash Flow and will return for the quarter $750 million to our unit holders. This provided distribution coverage of 1.44 times. The bridge on slide 11 shows the change in adjusted EBITDA from the third quarter of 2019 to the third quarter of 2020. The logistics and storage segment increased $44 million year over year, primarily driven by lower operating expenses, Minimum volume commitments and the completion of the Mount Airy Terminal and Utica Butane expansion projects, partially offset by decreased pipeline and terminaling volumes due to lower utilization at MPC's refineries. The gathering and processing segment increased 18 million, primarily driven by higher volumes due to additional plants coming online, partially offset by production curtailments and shut-ins. Slide 12 provides a summary of key financial highlights and select balance sheet information. We ended the quarter with a leverage ratio of four times and approximately $3.4 billion available on our bank revolver and $1.5 billion available on our intercompany facility with MPC. During and shortly after the quarter, we undertook several financing activities to continue to strengthen our balance sheet by lowering our interest costs and extending maturities. These steps were outlined in the earnings release. As I mentioned earlier, for the third quarter, we generated positive cash flow after investments and distributions. With progress made in 2020, our continued capital discipline and expected growth in EBITDA, we continue to target our goal of achieving positive free cash flow after capital investments and distributions for 2021. As we reach this inflection point, We believe that we will have the financial flexibility to repurchase units or reduce debt. We will continue to prioritize an investment grade credit profile and we expect our leverage to improve over time with modest growth in EBITDA. We will be looking to implement the board authorized unit repurchase program of up to $1 billion of our outstanding publicly traded common units. The timing, price, and actual number of common units repurchased, if any, will depend on several factors, including our expected excess cash available, alternative investment opportunities, and the market and business conditions. And now let me turn the call back over to Kristina.

Thanks, Pam. As we open the call for questions, we ask that you limit yourself to one question plus a follow-up. We may reprompt for additional questions if time permits. With that, we will now open the call to questions. Operator?

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press star then one on your touch tone phone. If you wish to be removed from the queue, please press star then two. If you are using a speaker phone, you may need to pick up the handset first before pressing the numbers. Once again, if you have a question, please press star then one on your touch tone phone. Our first question comes from Jeremy Tenet with JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Hi, good morning. Good morning, Jeremy.

Good morning, Jeremy.

Thanks. Just wanted to start off on how you're going to evaluate the balance between buybacks versus reducing leverage in 2021. And just thinking, is there a specific leverage bogey we should be thinking about here before you would start buying back units? And just also in the past, you've talked about reducing the number of geographical areas where you operate, you know, through divestitures or JVs if you rationalize. And could that factor into the equation here as well?

Jeremy, this is Mike. I'll start off by saying, first off, business conditions are going to continue to change, and we're going to evaluate. It's going to be a dynamic program as time goes on. What we said in our prepared remarks is right at the moment, with MPLX trading at a 15-plus yield, we see unit buybacks as the preferred option right at this point. Over the long term, with the base plan, if we stayed in that mode, we expect our leverage to naturally decline as EBITDA continues to increase because our base plan has earnings continue to increase. And if we keep debt flat, then we'll have a natural leverage reduction over time. But it is something that we're going to make quarterly calls or real-time calls as time progresses. Our main emphasis was And we've said this for quite some time now is to get into a position where we would have free cash flow after distributions and after capital. You know, we're achieving that as we come to the end of 2020 here. And, you know, our expectation was for that to occur in 21. So we're a little earlier than we expected. That's why we went out for the authorization with our board. And then we're just going to continue to evaluate the program as time goes on. and continue to be thoughtful as to what's the best way to deploy it.

That's very helpful. Thank you. And I want to pivot over to Wink to Webster here and just trying to better understand the ramp there with the first leg online and how we should think about those cash flows, I guess, increasing this year and into next year.

Jeremy, on Wink the Webster, one of the things that all the partners have done is looked at how can we optimize the capital spending. So portions of the project will come on in 2021. But, you know, as we said in our early remarks, the main segment from Midland to Houston, you know, completed early. So we're going to start that up early. And then, you know, as 21 progresses, as we optimize the capital and we look at where the different segments are. Throughout 21, we'll give more of an update as to where that's going to play itself out. But it's part of the optimization process. Instead of waiting for the whole time, there was a piece of the project that could start up sooner.

Jeremy, it's Pam. I thought I would just add on to Mike's comment about the unit repurchase. and you asked whether asset optimization would have a factor, would play a role in that. And I just want to highlight, you know, we're not a distressed seller and so we'll be patient and prudent with asset monetization. But clearly, to the extent that we are successful and we hope with an improving price environment that we'll be successful in optimizing some of the basins, we would absolutely deploy proceeds first to debt reduction and we certainly don't want to be in what we call a dilutive deleveraging. So certainly would look at using some proceeds to the extent that they're available for unit repurchase as well. And of course that's all predicated on where we stand with respect to leverage and our investment grade credit profile that we want to prioritize as we evaluate all these opportunities to allocate our capital to move forward.

That's very helpful. Thanks. If I could just sneak one more in. Just wondering if you had any other thoughts you could share with regards to the trajectory of demand recovery across your systems.

Yeah, Jeremy. So as it relates to the largest segment of our business, the logistics and storage segment, MPC each quarter does provide some guidance on what it expects in terms of its refining throughput. and certainly the volumes in the logistics and storage side of the business will really move with MPC's guidance. Currently their guidance for the fourth quarter is slightly lower than it was for the third, so keep that in mind, but that's certainly what we would expect as well. And then as it relates to the gathering and processing side of the business, it's been certainly very challenging for the producer customers really across all of our geographies We've been pleased to see some of the reports from producers have been coming out, so we'd encourage you to look at some of that guidance as well. But an improving price environment and backdrop we think will be very supportive for the gathering and processing segment. We are running at very high volumes in our Marcellus area, so we have some capacity that we could certainly fill up in the Utica area. and we have a Smithburg One ready at the appropriate time to take gas, but that Sherwood complex is running quite full. So we're optimistic about how our producers will be able to benefit from an overall improving natural gas and NGO price environment.

Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you. I'll get back in the queue. You're welcome. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Shanier Gershuni with UBS. Your line is open.

Hi, good morning, everyone. Maybe to start off and just go back to that buyback question a little bit, just wondering if we can unpack it. Given that you're at four times leverage already and the balance sheet is where it's at, and then when we look at the fact that you expect to be free cash flow positive after distribution, in 21. Just wondering if you could give us a sense around the, you know, does all that excess go towards buybacks? Is that kind of the instructions from the board? Is there a percentage of it that goes towards buybacks? And, you know, as you execute on it, is it going to be in a pro rata format, you know, public units versus MPC held units? Just wondering if you can give us a little bit more color around that.

It's Mike. So, yeah, like I was saying in my previous comments, you know, we're going to evaluate it as business conditions dictate. You know, what we're trying to disclose to everybody is right at this particular time, the way we see the market today is because we've been trading, you know, 15 plus yield. It's our desire to prioritize, you know, unit buybacks. There's not a set to your question. There's not a set percentage or anything like that. It's It's us going to be making a determination as we go forward what's the best use of those proceeds as we generate positive cash. In the environment that we see today, I call it the base case today, is we see buybacks as the preferred vehicle. And at the same time, we do see EBITDA growth in our business will naturally reduce our leverage. So as Pam has said many times, we're comfortable at four times. Over time, we think that will go down as our earnings grow. But if conditions dictate something different, we'll adjust. But right now, we see unit buybacks as the priority based on where the market is trading and the yield that we have on our units.

Okay, great. Maybe as a follow-up question, I was just wondering if we can expand on the cost side a little bit in terms of your cost efforts. How much of the reduction that's happening at MPC will translate across to MPLX above the original target that you set earlier this year? And has your CapEx outlook changed for 2021? I think it was a billion dollars last time we were updated.

Yeah, I'll take that. It's Pam. So as we mentioned earlier, you know, we're on target to achieve the $200 million of operating expense reductions this year. and then we also announced the reduction in force that was across the enterprise MPC and MPLX. And so that portion of the cost reductions associated with a separation of part of our workforce will be reflected primarily as we move forward in 2021. So that's incremental to the $200 million that we identified earlier. And then the other question that you asked about was CAPEX. We'll provide an update when we report fourth quarter results. But as you know, we've worked hard to reduce our capital spend throughout the year. We're still targeting about $900 million, which is down about $750 million. And then we would expect for 2021, although we're not ready to provide some guidance, we would expect 2021 CapEx will be lower than 2020 as we've been wrapping up some larger projects here. It'll be lower than this year, but we're just not ready quite yet to give you that guidance share.

I really do appreciate it. If I can speak one last one, like Jeremy. You expect to be free cash flow positive after distributions next year. You've had really strong results this year. Is there any reason to think that it can't happen this year as well, too, or is there some seasonality in 4Q that we should be thinking about?

Well, as I mentioned earlier, so there was a question about the outlook on volumes across the system. And the logistics and storage side will follow MPCs refining volume throughput, and MPCs forecasting slightly lower throughput for the fourth quarter than the third. So keep that in mind. But to your point, we're turning the corner here on free cash flow. We were negative the first half, positive in the third. We would expect to be positive in the fourth. So we think we'll be right around a position to maybe be modestly positive for the fourth quarter of 2020 or for the full year.

Perfect. One of the things that I think we're trying to communicate is we made a commitment to the market that we were going to drive ourselves towards free cash flow in 21. As you're pointing out, we're getting there a little bit early. I don't want to overplay this though from the standpoint as we you know we got authorization we expect to continue to execute the plan as you know you know the size of the public float is is not a very large number at this point so I don't want to overhype uh you know the discussion today but just really reiterate that we're on track to do what we said we were going to do for a long period of time here it's been multiple quarters in a row where we said here's where we're headed we're getting there we're trying to show you that As Pam just said, you know, for the full year, we'll be slightly positive. As we go into 21, it'll get a little bit more. And I think we're just trying to disclose that, you know, we made a commitment. We're executing on that. We're getting to a position where we will finally get to a point of that, you know, resulting in some buybacks. And that's why we got the authorization.

Perfect. Really appreciate the color, guys. Take care and have a safe day.

Thanks, Snare. Appreciate it.

Thank you. Next, we will hear from John McKay with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for the time. Just wanted to circle up again on CapEx for 2021. Appreciate the guidance that it should be lower year over year. But just wondering if you could talk a little bit about, you know, what might be the moving pieces there? How flexible is that number? And then really, how much does it depend on the pace of the overall recovery?

John, I'll start off and Pam can jump in. So we're not quite through our process internally or with the board for 21. We're in the middle of that, so we're not ready to give any forward guidance in that area. I think what Pam was reiterating is one of our tenets of going forward is we're going to maintain very strict capital discipline. As we said, we set a goal that's become realized now that will be free cash flow. We're committed to our distribution, as we've said many times. The market keeps asking us about that, but we're committed to that distribution. We're committed to managing capital in a way that we've raised our hurdle rate in such a way that we'll have strong discipline around it. We'll generate excess cash. As we generate that excess cash, if the market continues to trade where it's been, then we think the right use of proceeds is to buy back units. That's kind of where we are at this point. As to your question on recovery, again, my personal philosophy is worry about the things we can control and not the ones that we don't control, but just to do scenario planning around that. I mean, I think there's a lot of good indications that the market is going back in a demand recovery mode from where it was earlier. Hopefully, some of this rhetoric that we're all reading about as far as vaccines coming online sooner rather than later is all good. and hopefully the overall U.S. economy will rebound in 21 the way some people are projecting. So we're just going to have to watch, as I was saying in the answers to the first question, business conditions will dictate how and which method and the pace at which we deploy things. But I think our main message here is, We're delivering on what we expected. We're reaching that point. We're staying disciplined on capital. We're staying committed to our distribution, and we've reached a point where we're starting to have excess funds.

All right. That's helpful. I appreciate that. Just my quick follow-up, and I'll keep it to two today. Just on CapEx in the quarter, so the year-to-date number looks like it's coming in a little tight on kind of what your full year 2020 CapEx guidance has been. So I was just wondering if you could kind of frame up really spending for the rest of the year and kind of what's happening there and maybe if you're expecting another return of capital from one of the JVs or something like that. Thank you.

Yeah, John, so I think one of the things that is a little more difficult for us to forecast is change in accrual for capital expenditures and capitalized interest. And so some of those items are adding to This number that is a little higher than our targeted of $900 million. But if you back out, and we give the detail in the press release, so I think it's the last schedule attached to the press release. If you back those things out, you'll see that we're still right on target. We will have considerably lower capital spending in the fourth quarter, and that is intentional. As I mentioned throughout the earlier part of the year, we were wrapping up. Some larger projects like the Mount Airy Terminal, the Utica-Butane expansion, an NGL pipeline in Appalachia, and we had some plants that were being wrapped up. So capital spending was much greater in the first half of the year, and also that's part of the reason why we were in negative cash flow in the first part of the year. But yeah, you'll see a very significant decline sequentially as we go into the fourth quarter and close out the year for growth capex.

That's all. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Christine Cho with Barclays. Your line is open.

Thank you. If I could actually just maybe take your comments about how we should think about free cash flow generation through the remainder of the year. Can you give us an idea of how much of the quarter over quarter increase at LNS was due to cost savings? and where you were relative to MVCs and whether you expect to hit up against any MVC levels next quarter with the volume guidance that you're forecasting at the MPC level.

So MVCs can always be a part of the equation. We have a large number of our contracts and systems that are supported by MVCs. and even in periods of time when we weren't in the kind of the demand shock that we've been experiencing, we've had the benefit of protections from minimum volume commitments. And so certainly that's always in play, Christine. In terms of the cost reductions, we probably won't break that out separately for each segment, but certainly cost reductions did play an important part of second and third quarter and we still have some cost reductions to deliver here in the fourth quarter as well with respect to that $200 million for 2020, that expectation of operating cost reductions. So that's a significant portion of the benefit that we've been realizing. We probably have a little more flexibility on the logistics and storage side of the business than what we've had on gathering and processing. The plants that they have installed have a little bit like a mini refinery. They have high fixed operating costs. And so we have probably experienced more of the cost savings on the logistics and storage side of the business than we did in gathering and processing.

Okay, got it. And then I guess just, you know, given the changing landscape for refineries in a post-pandemic world, How should we think about the long-term cash flow generation of the existing assets against the contribution from growth projects as we think about the natural fee leveraging you mentioned from growing EBITDA? And should we take your preference to buy back stock today as confidence that you either don't see deterioration in the near to medium term on your assets or that any structural changes will be more than offset with lower capex and continued cost savings.

Yep, and thanks, Christine. That's a good question. And so it's kind of, I will give you kind of a multi-part answer and then maybe ask others if they want to chime in as well. But when we think about some of the significant changes that have taken place at MPC's operations with the idling of the Gallup refinery, the Martinez refinery, and the conversion of Dickinson to renewable diesel, When we think about some of those renewable products like renewable diesel, as you know, it's a drop in fuel and we can move that fuel in our existing assets. So we'll certainly, we'll look forward to as MPC transitions some of its fuels and its feedstocks, we'll be equipped to handle those feedstocks and those fuels And then as it relates specifically to Gallup and Martinez, we've talked about the fact that we have contracts in place that protect cash flow for a period of time. And then at Gallup, we would expect actually there to be for the enterprise little or no change in the cash flow and EBITDA because the pipelines that supported moving crude to the refinery Now that crude is being transported on a longer haul, a Tex-Numex pipeline to Midland. And so the earnings, we believe, will not be impacted by the shutdown of the Gallup refinery. And then at Martinez, a combination of things there. So again, we're protected with agreements for the various assets that were dropped down over time by the legacy Endeavor and ANDX systems. We have a minimum volume protection in place, and some contracts go out to December of 2026. And as MPC continues to move forward with its project there, we're continuing to evaluate the long-term opportunities for the logistics assets around that operation to be conformed to support MPC's objectives in that market. As far as the long-term and energy transition, We believe that our assets will continue to serve an important role well into the future in terms of delivering crude oil, feedstocks, and finished products to markets that we believe will continue to require them, even as the space does transition. And then when we talk about energy transition, we could talk about some of the opportunities to convert some of our assets to help support New services and operations like moving CO2 and sequestering CO2 in caverns and storage facilities, moving hydrogen on pipelines, renewable gas on pipelines, and those kinds of things. So certainly an opportunity for us. This industry has been very resilient over time. We've adapted a lot of changes in standards and regulations over time, and we believe our assets will continue to be a vital part of delivering energy to those who need it.

Kristina, it's Mike. I'll just add to Pam's comment to your question. At the end of the day, we're going to continue to see an evolving energy landscape. Obviously, it's very well known that there's different things occurring in different parts of the world. In the short term, one of the priorities that I think was important for us at MPC and MPLX was to spend a lot of time on our cost structure, and that effort continues. And we're going to continue to give updates quarter to quarter as to how that progresses. But I don't want to lose sight of the point that Pam was making at the end or the point that you made at the end of yours. We do believe in growth as an important part of the story at MPC and MPLX. Getting the cost structure in line was a high priority, but then also growing the earnings at both entities over the long term is also a priority. But in the very short term with COVID hitting and the uncertainty around the market, at least in the last six months or so, the higher priority has been liquidity and getting ourselves in a position where we think we have a structure long term that's more cost competitive.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Our next question will come from Michael Bloom with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. So in your prepared remarks, you talked about M&A you're seeing in the upstream space. My question is really, do you see that ultimately moving to the midstream sector? And if so, what are your thoughts in terms of MPLX playing a role there, or do you think you're just going to be more internally focused?

Yeah, Michael, I'll start. It's Pam. So at the moment, we don't really have a currency that I think would be very effective in consolidation. I think consolidation will take place, and certainly we'll evaluate opportunities as we move forward. But again, our priority in the near term is to use our free cash and our balance sheet money Not use our balance sheet. Keep our debt in check here, but use our free cash to buy back units. But we're not going to be blind to what's happening in the space, and we do think that there will be consolidation. So we'll certainly be monitoring that. You know, what that might look like is difficult to predict, and I'm not saying that we are actively engaging in M&A at this point in time, but certainly we'll keep an eye on how that unfolds.

Great. Just a second question, just I wanted to ask if you had any updates on the proceedings on the High Plains Pipeline.

Yeah, so on the High Plains Pipeline, there was a recent development, and the case was really remanded back. So by December 15th, there will be an update from the court. Let's see if I'm missing anything here. Yeah, so the trespass determination and the damages are vacated, so that's good. The matter has been sent back to a regional director. We do expect a new decision by December 15th, but really that's all there is. We don't have much to share beyond that. Now, I just want to remind people, as we stated before, we have alternatives to generate a similar level of EBITDA as we've generated in the past if for some reason we're unable to use that one piece of line that was at issue with the tribes.

Michael, it's Mike. I'll just add, you know, obviously it's a positive development for us as the Assistant Secretary issued an order vacating the BIA's trespass order. There is still more to come as Pam mentioned. but as we previously disclosed is we believe that we have alternatives that are just as important in this whole process and we'll continue to see how it plays out but that's where we stand at this point.

Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Spiro Dunas with Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning everyone. First question is just on the midstream assets still up at the MPC level. Both Grey Oak and South Texas Gateway are cash flowing now. So I was just wondering if you guys could update us on how you're thinking about migrating those assets down to MPLX and if an asset swap is something that could facilitate a transaction there.

Yeah, it's Pam. So I would say at the moment, it's not on the front burner for us across the company. We really have our priorities focused on Those items that Mike has highlighted, optimizing our portfolio, reducing our costs, focusing on the commercial aspects of our business, really getting our house in order, and for MPLX in particular, getting to that excess free cash flow, that positive cash flow after distributions and after capital investments so that we can commence the program that was authorized by the board to begin repurchasing our units.

Understood. Second question, just on the ESG side of things. Obviously, you guys continue to make a pretty big push there. Encouraging to see that. But just wondering, when it comes to governance, at some point, does the evaluation of a C-Corp governance vehicle become a weightier factor for you?

Spiro, it's Mike. So, you know, one of the things that we continue to look at is the structure that we have here. We certainly understand the argument for C-Corp and the advantages that that that would bring from widening the investor base. But as we found in our midstream review, there's a lot of cases where there are pros and cons. I've used that term quite a bit. And there's knowns and unknowns. Obviously, in this particular case, the pro would be to a wider investor base than currently in the partnership structure. But one of the large cons would be the tax impacts that would occur both at MPC and to our long-term holders. That's one of the main reasons that we have not moved forward on that. The second main reason, obviously, is if you're in a C-corp mode that you're going to start paying corporate taxes. And for us, we've looked at that for an entity that we have today, which is about $4 billion of distributable cash flow, rough numbers. Even a 21% tax rate, that's a significant corporate tax that we would be paying. And if you believe that the tax rate could be going up in the future... It's just even that much more. Up until now, we keep saying the base case that we've been on is still the right path. We want to get into 21 and generate more cash flow and continue to emphasize that we think that's the best source of value for us and try and get to a point where we start to buy units back. And if they continue to trade at this kind of level, then we'll continue to prioritize that as a use of that excess cash.

Got it. Makes sense. Appreciate the caller. Thanks, Pam. Thanks, Mike.

You're welcome. Thanks.

Thank you. Our next question will come from TJ Schultz with RBC Capital. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks. Just first a question on the MVCs. Do you have any major contract renewals on the MVCs in 2021, and what's the average remaining term? on the MBCs within L&S.

So within L&S, we have long-term contracts. Most of them were put in place. Those that would be coming up for renewal would be coming up primarily in 2022. So our first drop-down back in 2012 was marathon pipeline assets, and those are 10-year contracts. So the majority of those would start coming up for renewal in the logistics and storage segment of the business beginning in 2022. We do have one contract, our marine contract does come up for renewal in January of 2021. Excuse me. And that is a little more unique among all of our other contracts. That contract will be extended and renewed. However, it does have a feature where we will reset the rates to market rates for the equipment that's under contract. So it's a contract, it's a fee for capacity. So to the extent that we have the equipment in service available and dedicated to MPC, we will be paid for that equipment. The rates are set to fluctuate every five years upon contract renewal. So we would expect that there will be contract renegotiation on the rates. The rates will be reset. And the rate reset is really based on what market rates are. So that's one that will be up in 2021.

Okay, thanks. And then just to follow up on your answer earlier about asset conversions that may be possible when considering energy transition and the theme there. Are any of those considerations, whether it has to do with CO2 or hydrogen or RNG happening right now, or when do you expect those types of conversions to be possible or to be needed? Thanks.

One of the things that I would tell you, TJ, is as we look at this evolution in the energy space, I think Pam said it well earlier, is We're going to continue to look for opportunities where we can participate and make that part of our portfolio going forward. Probably the toughest thing from your end, it's an area where we probably won't give the most disclosures because of the competitive nature of these calls and not put ourselves in a position where we're hurting our either negotiations or the projects that we have. But we'll try our best to give you some color in this area. But it's also an area that's probably going to frustrate you a little bit as we kind of keep some of these projects closer to the vest. But I don't know, Tim, if you want to comment at all.

So this is Tim. I would just add that, in short, we know we're an energy logistics company. And we're going to continue to look at all the opportunities. But I think Mike has summarized it well. It's a pretty competitive environment. Whether we look at conversion of assets, we have We have things that move molecules, so we'll continue to look at what we can put those services to use in. Whether it's trucks, trains, boats, pipes, it's all on the table.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Keith Stanley with Wolf Research. Your line is open.

Hi, good morning. I wanted to follow up first on the comments on the marine contract. Can you give a sense of current rate versus market rates? And then my understanding was that's a pretty small business. I think it was only maybe 100 or 200 million at EBITDA if that's in the ballpark. And then related to that, did the pipeline contracts that you referenced for 2022 also reset to market at renewal or was that something unique to marine?

That's unique to the marine business. You're in the right zip code in terms of the size of the business. I would say another thing to keep in mind is the fact that we have put more equipment to work also helps to offset the fact that we would expect the marine rates to come down. I would say the current market is soft relative to when The contract was first put in place and the prices were first established. So it's clearly, it's clearly, it is, but you're in the right zip code for Marine.

Okay, great. And second topic on the buybacks, the billion dollar authorizations for the public units, can you just talk about the reasons for buying in the public units and not, I guess, buying in any units held by MPC? Obviously, it's more Thank you for joining us today.

After we invest in the business, the capital that's available after investing in the business will be used to buy back public units, and that will only serve to increase MPC's ownership interest in MPLX. So we think that's an important message for investors, that MPC continues to value MPLX as an important part of its business long term, not only for the distribution today, but for growth opportunities well into the future.

Great, thank you.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Tristan Richardson with Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for all the communication on capital priorities. You've covered a lot of ground here. Just one more buyback question, if I may. Just curious, Mike, how much does consolidated leverage at the sponsor influence the pace of execution on a buyback versus continuing to just deliver the LP?

So they're pretty much independent, Tristan. One of the things that we've said at the sponsor level is we look at the MPCX MPLX leverage and we want to keep that at around one to one and a half times. Obviously, we're in a little bit of an anomaly situation with what's happening with COVID, but we've continued to communicate that you know we believe both entities should be and I use the word appropriately levered we're not looking to have you know the entities under levered we're not looking to have them over levered we're looking for an appropriate amount of leverage that is right for each entity at the MPLX level you know we think four times is a good spot to be over time you know Pam has said you know Over time, having that drift down a little bit as our earnings grow is good for us in our mind. So midstream space with very consistent, stable earnings, and hopefully the market is seeing that as far as the last couple quarters here, we think that's an appropriate leverage for the midstream space. At the same time, on the refining space, that type of leverage would not be an appropriate level, so that's why we've communicated one to one and a half times is what we think is right there. In both entities, it's very important for us to maintain investment grade credit metrics. We continue to have dialogue with the rating agencies. We'll always continue to do that. The ratings that we have at this point we believe are appropriate for our businesses, and we think the leverage that we have is important to maintain that investment grade profile. So that's the way we think about them. Some people ask that question like you're asking now about consolidated. We kind of look at them as two independent businesses and having them appropriately levered is the way we think about it.

Appreciate it. Thank you guys very much.

You're welcome.

Thank you. Our last question will come from Ujwal Pradhan with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Just two quick clarification ones for me. You mentioned earlier that the cost reduction from workforce reduction plan is incremental to the 200 million in optics reduction this year. Are you able to quantify the benefit from that going forward and perhaps high level how much of the aggregate cost reduction this year will be repeatable next year?

Yeah, Ujwal, all of the cost reductions that we're achieving in 2020, we expect to be ongoing into the future. And we're not providing information yet about the amount that the cost reduction equates to for the workforce reduction. But you'll be able to see it in our results as we move forward. and some of the cost reductions that we've been able to successfully execute here in 2020. You should be able to see that in our detailed financial statements as well. So I would say just continue to monitor our progress and you should be able to follow it as we move through 2021.

Got it. Thanks for that, Pam. And the second clarification on the CapEx comments from earlier, I appreciate the color you already share so far, but Given the improving outlook for the Northeast based on your customer conversations, perhaps could you share what we should think about run rate capex for Northeast GNP to maintain current production levels?

Yeah, Ujwal, I'd say that that's relatively modest relative you know in comparison to the total capital that we've been spending historically there most of the capital that we've spent in 2020 even is related to the NGL pipeline that we completed and we're close to completion there and then bringing on or preparing to bring on some additional plants and you know building out that Smithburg one property so We definitely have ongoing capital to support the producer customers in the way of WellConnex and so forth. But my guess is just within the Marcellus that that would be, you know, a couple hundred million or less.

Well, it's Mike. I'm just going to add that, you know, one of the things that I think we've seen as a result of the activities in this year is many of the E&P players are looking at their situation and Compared to where they were a couple years ago, looking at a slower growth trajectory, whether it be in the Northeast or in the Permian or any other area. So, you know, our expectation is the growth pattern that we'll see will be at a slower pace consistent with that. At the same time, I think everybody has seen that, you know, one of the things of the recent activities in 2020 is how natural gas has responded as far as, you know, price and the expectation going forward. that we think it's still going to be an important part of the energy landscape for the long term. We're looking at $3 plus natural gas pricing now compared to where we were six months ago, and I think there's a different outlook going forward that also blends into the evolving energy landscape.

Got it. Thank you, Pam and Mike, and congratulations on a great quarter.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you. I will now turn the call back over to Kristina Kazarian for closing remarks.

Thank you for joining us today and thank you for your interest in MPLX. Should you have any additional questions or would you like clarification on any of the topics discussed this morning, members of our team will be available to take your calls. Hope you have a great day.

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