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spk05: Welcome to the MPLX fourth quarter 2020 earnings call. My name is Amber, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Press star 1 on your touchtone phone to enter the queue. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Christina Kazarian. Christina, you may begin.
spk04: Good morning and welcome to the MPLX Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. The slides that accompany this call can be found on our website at MPLX.com under the Investors tab. Joining me on the call today are Mike Hennigan, Chairman, President, and CEO, Pam Beal, CFO, and other members of the executive team. We invite you to read the Safe Harbor Statements and Non-Gap Disclaimer on slide two. It's a reminder that we will be making forward-looking statements during the call and during the question and answer session that follows. Actual results may differ materially from what we expect today. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are included there, as well as in our filings with the SEC. Now, with that, I'll turn the call over to Mike.
spk11: Thanks, Christina. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our call. Earlier today, we reported adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter of 2020 of $1.4 billion. and full year 2020 adjusted EBITDA of $5.2 billion. Considering the unprecedented challenges our industry faced throughout 2020, we're proud of the way our performance highlighted the resiliency and stability of our underlying business. Despite the difficult macro environment, we were able to grow total DCF for 2020 compared to 2019. Additionally, our results demonstrate our commitment to executing on the priorities we laid out for the year. We made strides on optimizing our portfolio, announcing the sale of the Abilene facility in Corpus Christi, Texas. While not large in size, this is an example of the continued effort we're making to focus on the assets that have long-term strategic value to the company. We reduced our capital spend in 2020 by over $700 million from the target. We also took necessary steps to address our long-term cost structure, achieving our target to reduce forecasted operating expenses by over $200 million. These expense reductions were key to offset earnings headwinds, particularly in the L&S segment, and we believe they will be enduring long term. Our cost reduction efforts are particularly meaningful when you consider we have not compromised our commitment to safely operating our assets, protect the health and safety of our employees, and support the communities in which we operate. As a result of these concerted efforts, we were able to generate excess cash flow for the full year 2020 after self-funding our distribution and capital program. This inflection occurred earlier than our original target of 2021 and gave us the financial flexibility to begin repurchasing units in the fourth quarter of 2020. Today, we also announced the growth capital outlook for 2021 of $800 million, focused on investments and projects expected to deliver our highest returns. This outlook represents a continued reduction in capital spend as we work to high-grade our portfolio of investments, focusing on projects that achieve robust returns irrespective of the market environment. We remain committed to strict capital and expense discipline, and that discipline, combined with EBITDA growing over time, supports our continuing goal of generating excess cash for 2021, providing the opportunity to return incremental capital to our unit holders. Shifting to slide five, I'd like to provide some comments on our responsibilities around sustainability and corporate leadership. Last quarter, we discussed the publication of our 2020 Climate Perspectives Report, highlighting opportunities and strategic planning work that companies engaged in related to climate scenarios. We also discussed our goal to reduce methane emission intensity in the GMP business. It's important that we set objectives for the organization that drive our continuous improvement on ESG. Our focus on leading in sustainable energy positions us to deliver strong results in this space, from lowering the carbon intensity of our operations and products to improving energy efficiency and conserving natural resources while using innovative technologies to do it. We believe the goals we are setting and our transparent disclosures on how we plan to achieve them position us well for the future. I'm proud to see some of our team's efforts in the ESG arena recognized in 2020 with API's Distinguished Pipeline Safety Award, as well as two EPA Energy Star Challenge Awards for energy efficiency. These accomplishments highlight that at all levels of our business, our team members are proactive and engaged in ensuring the safety of those in the communities where we have the privilege to operate and protecting the environment we all share. Now let me turn the call over to Pam to discuss our operational and financial results.
spk05: Thanks, Mike, and good morning. As Mike mentioned earlier, MPLX delivered fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA of $1.4 billion and full year EBITDA of $5.2 billion. Distributable cash flow of $1.2 billion for the fourth quarter provided strong distribution coverage of 1.58 times. And we ended the year with leverage of 3.9 times. Our quick response to the challenging demand environment allowed us to increase our EBITDA by $100 million for the year. In the L&S segment, the strength of our underlying contracts and operating expense reductions more than offset the impact of lower volumes in the system. The gathering and processing segment also benefited from lower operating expenses, partially offsetting the impact of production curtailment in certain basins. I'm pleased to report that our 2020 results represent the first full year that MPLX has funded both our total capital investments and distributions to our unit holders with $266 million of excess cash flow after these activities. During the fourth quarter, we began to implement the board authorized unit repurchase program of up to $1 billion of our outstanding publicly traded common units. Looking forward, we expect our assets to continue to provide strong cash flow. Our capital allocation will continue to focus on fully funding our capital needs and distributions with cash generated from operations, while maintaining an investment-grade credit profile and returning excess cash to our unit holders. We expect to maintain the distribution, and the pace of unit repurchases will depend on several factors, including excess cash available, alternative investment opportunities, and the business and market conditions. During 2021, we expect to invest approximately $800 million in growth capital and $165 million in maintenance capital. Slide 7 outlines the fourth quarter logistics and storage segment highlights. Volumes across our pipeline and terminal systems were lower compared with the fourth quarter of 2019, primarily driven by lower utilization at MPC's refineries. However, we continue to execute on our operating expense reductions to offset lower throughputs. During the quarter, we continue to progress our strategy of creating an integrated crude oil and natural gas logistics systems from the Permian to the Gulf Coast. We expect the Wink to Webster crude oil pipeline, in which MPLX has an equity interest, to continue to place assets in service throughout 2021. In line with our focus on projects with minimal return risk, the pipeline system has 100% of its contractible capacity committed with minimum volume commitments. As we progress construction activities for the Whistler natural gas pipeline, we expect a start-up of the project in the second half of 2021. And finally, we continue to work towards an in-service date in the second half of the year for the NGL takeaway solution. As a reminder, this project is an optimized approach compared to the Bangal project as it was originally contemplated. largely utilizing existing infrastructure with minimal capital investment by MPLX. Outside of the Permian, we ran a successful open season for the expansion of the Salt Lake City core pipeline, with the 11,000 barrel per day expansion expected to be completed later this year. While we're on the topic of our logistics and storage segment, I wanted to take a moment to discuss the renewal of the marine contract between MPC and MPLX. This contract was renewed in January for an additional five-year term for the same capacity of boats and barges. As mentioned on the prior call, the renewal terms include a reset of the contracted equipment rates to current market levels. Based on changes in market rates, we're estimating a reduction to our marine services EBITDA. It will be less than $100 million, or less than 2% of our full-year 2020 EBITDA. We continue to hear concerns from the investor community regarding MPLX's exposure to contract renewals with our sponsor, MPC. And we'd like to take this opportunity to highlight that many of these assets that MPLX operates are fit for purpose to MPC's business, and in most cases, the optimal solution MPC has for its logistics needs. We fully expect MPC to renew contracts with MPLX as they mature over time. We do not expect MPC to commit incremental capital to duplicate systems that already exist. And moving on to our gathering and processing business, slide eight provides fourth quarter segment highlights. For the fourth quarter of 2020, gathered volumes were lower than the same period last year across our footprint due to lower dry gas volumes in Utica, a planned outage in the Marcellus, and production curtailments in other regions. Processed and fractionated volumes were also lower than the same period last year, except for the Marcellus, where processed volumes increased 8% and fractionated volumes increased 10%. During the fourth quarter in the Marcellus, our processing units continued to run at high utilization rates, setting a record 6 BCF per day in the region. We also achieved record fractionation volumes of 300,000 barrels per day at our Hopedale facility following the third quarter completion of an 80,000-barrel per day expansion. In the past, we provided an estimate of the impact to earnings of a 5-cent move in NGL prices. With the planned sale of the Javelina refinery off-gas processing facility in Corpus Christi, we do expect a reduction in our direct commodity price exposure. For 2021, we would expect a 5-cent change in the weighted average NGL basket to have an approximate $20 million annual impact to EBITDA. While higher NGL prices will have less of a direct impact to MPLX earnings, rising NGL prices will have an indirect benefit, providing an incentive for producers to shift drilling to rich gas areas where our processing and fractionation infrastructure can be more highly utilized. Looking forward to 2021 in the Northeast, we have opportunities to optimize our plant utilization as we expect producers to pursue modest production growth while maintaining free cash flow. We also expect to bring the SmithBerg One facility online around the middle of the year. And we expect to see incremental ethane recovery with improving economics. On slide nine, moving to our fourth quarter, financial highlights. Total L&S segment adjusted EBITDA was $884 million, and the gathering and processing segment contributed $471 million in adjusted EBITDA. For the quarter, we generated approximately $1.2 billion of distributable cash flow and returned $742 million to our unit holders through distributions. We also repurchased $33 million of publicly held units during the quarter. The bridge on slide 10 shows the change in adjusted EBITDA from the fourth quarter of 2019 to the fourth quarter of 2020. The logistics and storage segment increased $31 million year over year, primarily driven by lower operating expenses and partially offset by decreased pipeline and terminal volumes due to lower utilization at MPC refineries. The gathering and processing segment increased $5 million, benefiting from lower operating expenses and higher processed and fractionated volumes in Marcellus. Slide 9 provides a summary of key financial highlights and select balance sheet information. We ended the year with a leverage ratio of 3.9 times, approximately $3.3 billion available on our bank revolver and $1.5 billion available on our intercompany facility with MPC. We intend to maintain our investment-grade credit profile and we expect our leverage to be approximately four times in 2021 and to decline over time with modest growth in EBITDA. As I mentioned earlier, for the first time in the company's history, we generated excess cash after capital investments and distributions for the full year of 2020. With the progress made in 2020, our continued capital and expense discipline and growth in EBITDA We expect to continue generating excess cash flow for 2021, providing financial flexibility to pursue value-creating opportunities for our unit holders, including unit repurchases. And now let me turn the call back to Christina.
spk04: Thanks, Pam. As we open the call for questions, we ask that you limit yourself to one question plus one follow-up. You may be prompt for additional questions as time permits. With that, we will now open the line to questions. Operator?
spk05: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press star, then one on your touchtone phone. If you wish to be removed from the queue, please press star, then two. If you're using a speakerphone, you may need to pick up the handset first before pressing the numbers. Once again, if you have a question, please press star, then one on your touchtone phone. Our first question comes from Shnur Gashuni with UBS. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hi, good morning, everyone. Maybe to start off, you generated excess free cash flow after distributions in 2019, sorry, in 2020, and it looks that way in 2021, or assuming that's the plan in 2021. Leverage is currently at 3.9 times. I was wondering if you can share with us the order of priorities for this excess cash you know, split between, say, you know, leverage, buybacks, and distribution increases. Just wondering if you can sort of rank order the priorities as you think about that excess cash generation on a go-forward basis.
spk11: There's Mike. I'll give you some color on that. You know, first off, I would try and remind everybody that it's not a set it and, you know, just let it go on forever. We're going to continue to look at where we stand on each of the parameters and then make decisions more dynamically rather than not. So where we've been here is, you know, we've been comfortable with our leverage. A lot of people have asked us, you know, how do you feel about that? And, you know, we've been running around four times for some, you know, pretty consistent amount of time. So we're comfortable there. And the way we look at it right at the moment is, and we started this, you know, just towards the end of the fourth quarter, but we look at where we're trading, you know, where the equity is trading. And right now we have a, you know, a DPU yield of around 12%. We've got a DCF yield of around 17%. And if the equity is going to trade at that kind of level, then our priority in the short term would obviously be to buy back units. We'd love to be able to do all of the above. But as you mentioned, you're going to have to prioritize as things go on and conditions change, et cetera. Love to be able to have a program that hits the highest priority at the time. But we're going to kind of look at it quarter to quarter or more dynamically and decide what we think is the best use. And right now, trading at 17% DCF, you know, that's probably the highest priority we have right now because leverage is in a good spot. The market's not rewarding distribution growth right at the moment. But I think some of these things can change over time. I think the key for us, and I'm hoping the market is realizing that, you know, our goal was to get to free cash flow to put ourselves in this position. We got there a little earlier than we were expecting, which was good. And at the end of the day, you know, I'm hoping that 2020 has shown the market that, you know, we have pretty consistent earnings. There's been a lot of questions around the stability and the consistency of the earnings. So hopefully the year, as everybody's used the word unprecedented, you know, has played itself out and continues. As everyone knows, we're not through with the pandemic yet. But once we, you know, establish, you know, post the pandemic, I think we're going to be in a mode where we're going to continue to grow earnings, like we've said, over time. We continue to look at cost-cutting that we made as a major effort this year. And then to your question is we'll be dynamic and report out each time what we think is the best use of that return of capital. I would give one last comment that, you know, our distribution is still a pretty healthy return of capital, you know, as is. And we've stated many times that we support that distribution. We think it's very solid. We think this past year has shown that. And then we're going to continue to grow DCF and grow our earnings and see what the best use is. I'm hoping that helps you.
spk03: No, that does. And really do appreciate the direct answer, actually. Just as a follow-up question, you know, I don't want to overuse the word unprecedented, but 2020 was. And certainly in terms of your responses to it, when I think about maintenance capital growth, You've got 165 million, I think it's the forecast for this year. When I sort of think about that number, is that kind of the new run rate that you're sort of thinking about as the asset span today? Is there any catch up in there that you didn't do in 2020 and that should be lower as we sort of think about 22 as assuming an apples to apples asset profile? Just wondering if you can sort of talk about, you know, the makeup of that 165.
spk05: Yes, Sherry, it's Pam. I'll take that one. So in 2019, our maintenance capital is actually about $200 million, and it dropped significantly last year. So a number of factors certainly influencing that. One is what was happening just across the space and in terms of a lower utilization of our refining assets and refining logistics assets at MPC's refineries. So that was having a significant influence on the downward pressure. And certainly, with a lot of uncertainties, driving some of those costs lower made sense. So there is a nice increase that you see in 2021 of $165 million. A couple things to keep in mind. MPC and MPLX both expense a lot of maintenance. So when you look at our maintenance activities, we, for example, expense API 653 tank work. A lot of companies would capitalize that work. And so we are maintaining our assets in a fashion that will allow us to continue to have reliability and integrity. So don't just look at the maintenance capital and draw conclusions about how well we're maintaining our assets from that metric alone. And then just something else to keep in mind, as part of the ANDX inherited contracts with ANDV, there was a provision where we would be reimbursed for some of the maintenance activity And so that also is causing the maintenance capital number to be a little bit lower. And over time, as those contracts roll off and that tank work is complete, the maintenance capital related to that activity would certainly increase. The other thing we've mentioned from time to time is the fact that in the gathering and processing segment of the business, those assets are really new. You know, we've spent a tremendous amount of capital, particularly in the Marcellus and Utica areas. And so the expected maintenance for those assets, you know, has been quite low. So, you know, it will obviously, you know, change over time. It will also be influenced by the assets that are in our portfolio as MPC continues to evaluate its portfolio as part of its optimization. And so I can't say that this is a fixed run rate, Schneer. I think we're just going to have to, you know, give you some guidance as we move forward.
spk03: Perfect. I really appreciate the color today, guys. Thank you very much, and I'll jump back in the queue. Thanks, Nair.
spk05: Our next question comes from Jeremy Tonette. Your line is open. Please go ahead with J.P. Morgan.
spk08: Hi. Good morning. Just wanted to start off with the GMP side of the business here, and it seems like Marcella's processing volumes continue to grow, but there's been kind of declines across other basins. And just wondering if you could update us with regards to producer-customer conversations and I guess what expectations you have for activity across your GMP footprint this year. Should we expect those declines to continue or do you see them kind of abating?
spk11: Jeremy, it's Mike. Thanks for that question. You know, one of the things that we've talked constantly about is, you know, the GMP space and what our expectation is because a lot of people have questioned overall. And I'll give you a big picture is we still feel really good about the business. We think it's going to grow earnings over time. As you pointed out, our Marcellus and Permian areas are continuing to grow, although we have seen some declines in some of the other areas. We've been pretty open about we're in eight basins today and we're going to look to optimize that at some point, but the market hasn't been willing to give us the right offer for that those other assets that we think maybe belong in someone else's portfolio. So we're happy to keep them, to keep generating cash and proceed in the mode that we've been in. But I think the big takeaway overall is, you know, the expectation in natural gas, in our opinion, has, you know, started to move back towards a positive dynamic. There's been a lot of discussion going into the pandemic about, you know, where gas was and being overwhelmed by associated gas, etc., etc., We had not been believers in that, and a lot of people were calling us on our view there. But at the same time, I think it's kind of played out a little bit as we were expecting, which is natural gas is going to be an important dynamic going forward. The earnings growth we think will be good, but not double-digit. We've said that many times as well. We're not expecting the robust growth that was there before. So producers in that space, similar to the oil space, you know, are looking at their portfolios and trying to manage their balance sheets and their cash flow, et cetera. So I think this slow growth model is starting to play itself out a little more or becoming a little more obvious, I think, to investors than was in the past. So, you know, our conversations continue along the same, you know, activity that we've been saying. Some areas not going to get a lot of capital deployment. Other areas is kind of core to some of the bigger players. We've mentioned many times that our core areas are the Marcellus and the Permian. We're seeing growth in those areas. To your point, we're seeing a little bit of decline in the other areas, but as long as we're still kicking off cash in those areas, we still believe it's a contribution to the enterprise.
spk08: Got it. Thanks for that. And then just wanted to go back to, I guess, the opening remarks with regards to the barge contract renewals. Was that $100 million was in 2021. Was that the impact there? And just are there any other kind of contract renewals over the next three years or so that we should be thinking about that could have changes in the rates when they're renewed?
spk05: Yeah, it's Pam, and I'll take that, Jeremy. So, yeah, we said it's less than $100 million, which is less than 2% of the 2020 annual EBITDA. And, you know, we have a lot of contracts between MPC and MPLX, The largest contracts that have the most EBITDA related to MPLX came about in 2018. So they have a long life. And those were refining logistics and fuel distribution. And keep in mind the pipeline contracts that we have are all FERC-based rates. So yes, there will be contracts that come up for renewal. There are no other contracts available. that I'm aware of that actually have this kind of an automatic rate reset provision baked into the agreement. It's just the way it was structured. It was about a five- to six-year period of time that it was in place, and then it's just an automatic update on market rates. And so, you know, sometimes that's going to be a benefit to MPC. Sometimes that will be a benefit to MPLX as market conditions do change over time. There are rate escalation or fee escalation provisions in those agreements as well. So just keep that kind of thing in mind. And as I said in the prepared remarks, we fully expect that MPC is going to renew these contracts with MPLX. In many cases, it has no other ingress or egress to its facilities. So we fully expect these contracts are going to be renewed and MPC owns majority interest of MPLX and gets a lot of cash back from MPLX. So we think it's in the mutual interest of MPC and MPLX to continue the positive relationship that we have enjoyed.
spk08: Got it. That makes sense. That's helpful. Thank you.
spk05: Our next question comes from John with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Just maybe wanted to circle back on a little bit of what Jeremy was getting into. Can you talk a little bit about the Javelina asset sale and maybe what the impact EBITDA would be? And then just if you take that impact, add in the kind of marine recontracting, just talk about some of the other puts and takes on how you get comfortable with, you know, 2021 EBITDA being flat to maybe up a little bit. Thanks.
spk05: Yeah, happy to take that one, John. The Javelina assets, it's a good asset. We expect to close on it here in the first quarter of 2021. It just didn't really fit our long-term plan. It's really a fractionation facility that processes refinery off-gas. It's on the smaller side in terms of EBITDA contribution, so it's not something that's going to make a significant impact on our outlook for 2021. And then in terms of our expectations for 2021, I think, you know, maybe one way to think about this is if you go back and just analyze kind of our weakest quarter, which was the second quarter, and then annualize our strongest quarter, which was the third quarter, you're going to come up with something in the range of 4.9 to 5.3 billion of EBITDA. Okay. And we're going to continue to pursue cost reduction. So, Think about some cost reductions in 2021, offsetting some of the headwinds associated with the marine contract rate resetting. So I hope that's helpful to keep in mind. And then, you know, where 2021 shakes out is really going to depend in large part with the recovery, the recovery of volumes for the MPC system, as well as the recovery for producers and their production volumes.
spk02: That's really helpful. Thank you. Maybe just one on CapEx then to follow up. You know, you look at the $800 million growth CapEx guidance. Looks like there's still some kind of room in there if we think about what you need to spend on the GNP side and then just what is left on Wink to Webster and Whistler. Just curious if we can kind of talk about, you know, where that could move to once those larger projects roll off.
spk05: Yeah, I think it's premature to talk about where it might move to. Certainly, there could be opportunity for that capex to come in lower. And again, I think it's really something that's going to be tied to what we're seeing in the producer community, both on the crude gathering side as well as the gas side of the business. So I think it'd be prudent for us to wait and see how that unfolds throughout the year. But yes, we'll continue to look at all those opportunities where maybe we don't have to spend as much capital as we move through the year. I would say about roughly half of the expected CapEx is going to be on the GMP side of the business and roughly half is going to be on the L&S side of the business. And we do have some completion of some pipeline expansions. Certainly you mentioned the Whistler projects. going to take a little bit more capital in 2021 as we wrap up there. But largely on the GMP side, it's going to be dependent on, you know, the macroeconomic outlook and what producers do with the drill bit.
spk11: That's great. Thank you very much. The other thing I just want to add kind of goes to the question Snare asked in the beginning is, you know, our whole deployment of capital and return of capital is going to try and be as dynamic as we can be as we go throughout the year. So, you know, in a big picture, you know, we say these are about the guidelines that we're giving you. But as we go out through the year before we pull the trigger on any capital spend where we still have the choice, something that's not already, you know, in progress, you know, we're going to continue to look at, you know, what's the best use. And like I said, if our equity trades where it is, you know, we'll deploy more capital towards it because in our opinion it's been undervalued. But we'll compare that versus the, you know, the choices we have on capital deployment as well as, you know, the long-term strategy and supporting the customer base that we have. So hopefully it will be a little bit more dynamic and a little bit more thoughtful as far as long-term. And I really just want to emphasize we're going to try and use that word strict capital discipline and, and make that part of our mantra and strict cost discipline and make that part of our mantra. That's some of the things that we're trying to put a little more emphasis on than we have in the past.
spk02: That's really helpful. Thank you.
spk11: You're welcome.
spk05: Our next question comes from Michael Bloom with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
spk06: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. I guess the first question I wanted to ask was just... On Wink2Webster and Whistler, can you remind us what the duration of those contracts are? And the reason I'm asking that is it would seem at this point those pipelines are adding capacity that probably maybe isn't needed right now by the market. So I just wanted to understand how long those cash flows are protected.
spk11: Good morning, Michael. It's Mike. So on those projects, if you recall, I'll give you the big picture and then I'll answer your question. We had stated a couple years ago that we had, you know, significant capital deployment opportunities in three big projects, Whistler and Wink to Webster, to your referencing, and then the third was Bangle. And the issue that we had in front of us is that Whistler and Wink to Webster, we got NBC protection, and then to your direct question, you know, those contracts vary, but, you know, put them in the 10-plus year environment. So very long-term investment. We'll use the rounded number of 10 as a guidepost for you. But at the end of the day, we have long-term commitments. We have MVC protection on it. And that's why we went forward with those two projects. That's why Wink to Webster and Whistler became part of our mantra. On Bangle, although we liked the project and although it was something in our mind, it could have been a long-term winner for us, we did not get MVC protection the way we would like to. from the customer base. It was not something that they were willing to commit to, and we understand the reasoning. But as a result of that, without that long-term commitment and without that long-term MVC, our commercial team looked at it and kind of rethought what's the best way to do it and not deploy capital or put that capital at risk in the original intent, and we changed that quite a bit down to a much lower capital solution using some existing pipe and partnering with some other players, et cetera, and became a win where we were able to satisfy the customer's needs but not put ourselves at risk on the deployment of capital that wasn't backed as strongly as we would like. So Link to Webster and Whistler ended up where we wanted it to be, long-term contracts, to your question, NBC protected, and we think they're going to be terrific projects. We think the modified or smaller Bengal project is also good, It's just not what the original intent was because of the very point. We did not get, you know, that long-term NBC protected, you know, portion of the contract. Does that make sense to you?
spk06: Absolutely. I appreciate the answer very much. The second question I had was just wanted to go back to a comment made during the prepared remarks. I think you talked about potentially optimizing processing capacity in the Northeast. I just wanted to understand better exactly what you meant by that. Would you, are you considering idling a processing plant or is there something else in that comment to understand?
spk05: No, it's Pam. Let me take that one. So there clearly are opportunities for us to have higher utilization of some of the plants that we have in the Northeast. And some of the pipeline work that we've undertaken over the past couple of years is going to allow us to shift volumes. So perhaps there are some opportunities to where we might have really high utilization and we need to shift some volumes to a different location. But that's what we mean about the opportunity to optimize the assets. It's not that we're looking to actually, to the extent there was an opportunity and it made sense, we'd certainly consider it, but we're not looking necessarily at shuttering any plants, but being able to balance volumes across the system with the investments that we've made. And then just, you know, the best return that we can get on our capital is filling up the plants that we already have in place without allocating capital to new additions. So that's the thought there.
spk06: Understood. Thank you very much.
spk05: You're welcome. And next we'll go to Christine Cho with Barclays. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
spk01: Thank you. Good morning. Pam, I wanted to maybe start off with, I think it was a comment you said in prepared remarks about increased SA recovery. And I was just curious, is the shell cracker that I think is supposed to start up later this year going to change anything on the fractionation side for you? You know, is more ethne going to get fractionated rather than getting rejected through your facilities? And would that be incremental cash flow or is that already being collected through an NBC?
spk11: Christine, it's Mike. I'm going to let Greg make a comment on that. But before I turn it to him, I'll just say, you know, one of the things in general in the Northeast is, you know, continuing, like I mentioned earlier, you know, growth area. We still are very bullish in the Marcellus. As Pam was trying to answer Michael's question, there's a little bit lower utilization in the Utica side of the Northeast. So we're trying to look to ways that we can optimize that capital that's already been deployed. But overall, we still are pretty bullish the area. When you think longer term, where do we think the natural gas business is going? We still think the two core areas that we're in are the important areas to be in for natural gas overall. So from a long-term perspective, we still feel real good about it. You know, the dynamics will change up there, and I'll let Greg give you some comments on the Shell situation. But, you know, whether it's Shell or some of these other pipelines that are happening, you know, over time, you know, those things will work themselves out because, in our view, it's still a very cost-effective area for production of natural gas. Obviously, I always say it doesn't beat associated because that's a different economic, but for on-purpose gas, we're still believers that the area that we're in is a good area, and as things continue to develop, we think we'll find opportunities to grow earnings there. Greg, you want to add anything on the Shell question?
spk00: Yes. Thanks, Mike. Christine, Greg Flurkey here. We currently recover the large majority of the ethane in the basin. We have mentioned, I think, previously that we have a purity ethane line that connects all of our processing plants. We actually recover ethane at the processing plants and not centralize it to fractionators. So we have a lot of flexibility to recover and then transport on our own line to all the takeaway points currently to the Gulf Coast, Canada, and the East Coast. on the various pipelines. As our producer customers continue to sell ethane into those markets and have commitments into those markets and on other pipelines, we believe that likely continues post-startup of the Shell Monaca Cracker, which would require then incremental recovery of ethane that's currently being rejected into the residue gas stream at all of these processing plant locations. So, therefore, we'd expect to see incremental requirement to recover. And there's plenty of ethane that's still being rejected that's still recoverable. But we would expect to see incremental recovery at our plants. We do have capacity in place without adding to recover on behalf of our producer customers. And we do – that is incremental recovery. It's on a fee basis in terms of the processing and the pipeline to the delivery points.
spk01: Got it. Very helpful. Thank you. And then I guess on the follow-up, maybe moving over to, you know, LNS, given MPC's plans to expand eastward in terms of placing product into PADD1, via the Laurel or Mariner pipes following multiple shutdowns of local East Coast refineries. Is there an opportunity for MPLX to somehow participate in MPC's West to East movement if Pad 1 becomes an increasingly short product once demand recovers further?
spk11: Hey, Christine. It's Mike. I don't know that there's going to be a capital opportunity for MPLX. There's some existing assets, as I know you're aware of, a couple other competitive assets that are out there that would fill MPC's need because they are existing. There's opportunities for us in regard to tankage and things like that, but I don't think you're going to see any large capital expenditure from us to support that need. We'll see if things change or if the dynamic around the market supply and demand changes, but for right now, I would tell you that I don't see us putting a lot of capital into that opportunity.
spk05: Yeah, if it were, it would probably be around de-bottlenecking some of the pipelines we already have to make sure that we get the volume into those systems that MPC wants to move eastward. Got it.
spk01: Thanks, guys.
spk11: You're welcome, Christine.
spk04: Our next question comes from Keith Stanley with Wolf Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
spk07: Hi. Good morning. I wanted to revisit the re-contracting question from earlier, so specifically with the oil pipelines from the IPO where the contract expires next year. Can you say, are those in the negotiation there, are the new rates negotiated with MPC for the oil pipelines, or is there a mechanism already set by which the rates would automatically adjust when you recontract?
spk05: Yeah, it's Pam. The overwhelming majority of our pipelines, whether we're talking crude or products, are FERC-based rates. So that's really what dictates the fees that we'll receive on those pipelines. And that fluctuates over time with the FERC index changes and the PPI changes. So it's really going to be driven by the market rates and FERC rates that are in place today.
spk07: Okay. Okay, so the rates have been changing with the index over this time period already.
spk05: Yeah, they do. They fluctuate each year.
spk07: Got it. Okay. Second question, just Thinking about recovery and volumes, how can we think about the company's leverage to an eventual recovery in MPC's throughput volumes? I'm just thinking L&S EBITDA never really declined much in 2020 because you offset it with cost cuts, but how can we think about leverage to volumes on the way back up? Is it material as a driver for MPLX, or is it pretty modest because of your contract structures?
spk05: Well, I think as you look, as you highlighted, we were able to mitigate some of the impact on the way down. We will see some improvement on the way back up. I think it's just really difficult to predict how much that might be and when. I think it's going to depend on which areas of the geography MPC sees the most robust recovery. Again, we have a cautious optimism for 2021, and we'll just have to wait to see how it plays out.
spk07: Thank you.
spk05: Our next question comes from Tristan Richardson with Trust Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
spk10: Hi. Good morning, guys. I appreciate all the comments on 2021. I mean, maybe just going back to the prior question, I would appreciate the outlook for cautious optimism and the parents' comments on 1Q, but one of your peers is out there and made the comment that they could see 2021 returning to 2019 levels. Curious, do you guys see overall refined product demand recovering to 2019 this year? It's Mike.
spk11: You know, one of the things that I've tried to tell people is I don't spend a lot of time trying to call exactly where the market is, and I spend more time trying to think of the banks of the river. So, you know, what if it turns out to be a, you know, poorer year as far as, you know, recovery relative to the pandemic? What if it does turn out to be more robust like you're referencing? So to me, the banks of the river are still pretty wide. You know, do we anticipate there could be a positive upside as a result of, you know, getting past the pandemic and vaccines, you know, working their way through and an earlier recovery. So I'd say that, you know, the bull case is, you know, we get a recovery, you know, that's, you know, robust and quick. And then the bear case is, you know, things take a little longer than people expect because, you know, the pandemic lingers and the post-pandemic activity, you know, doesn't recover quite as much. So, I'm hopeful that it is the first part. As Pam said, we're cautiously optimistic. We can see some of the parameters that would have people feeling that way, and obviously we hope that's the case. But our model, though, is to spend more time saying what if it's not the case and how do we see this playing out in case it turns out to be longer, et cetera. So I'm the first to admit that I don't know exactly when it's going to recover. I hope it is more robust and earlier than later. That's obviously our hope. That's why Pam uses the word cautious optimism. At the same time, probably our thinking is let's prepare for the worst and just be prepared in case this thing takes longer. I mean, some of the actual facts, as people know, is as we got into the back end of December – you know, the pandemic was hitting harder and the cases were spiking up and we kind of saw, you know, a second wave of restrictions and hopefully those are going to start to come off. And I know the new administration has a priority to get vaccination, you know, into the people's arms as quickly as possible. So there's momentum in the positive side, but, you know, and there's momentum that cases seem to be coming down and hopefully restrictions will be coming off. But, But I think it's hard to tell as to when it will actually occur. And so we're just going to prepare for both scenarios, the bull scenario, the bear scenario, and look at our cases and see what we think would play out in both. That's the way we kind of approach it. I hope that helps you.
spk05: I think the one wild card that Mike's hinting at as well is just this new variant on the virus. You know, we really don't know what kind of impact that's going to have. And so just while we think that the whole country is starting to turn the corner on this situation, this is a new kind of a wild card that's been presented. So we'll have to see how that plays out.
spk10: I appreciate it. Thank you, guys. And then just one follow-up on the optimization efforts in the Northeast. Is there a cost savings number associated with pushing volumes to the most productive plants? Can that be meaningful in the GMP segment this year?
spk05: No, I wouldn't suggest that there's some meaningful upside related to that.
spk11: It's more about capital deployment and can we optimize the capital that has already been spent. So, you know, if you look in our data, you know, we have some areas where the utilization is very high and some areas where there's opportunity. So what Pam was referring to is, you know, our commercial and operating teams are looking at, you know, is there a way to take advantage of that unused capacity as growth occurs in an area where there is you know, not excess capacity. That's the idea. Makes sense.
spk10: Thank you guys very much. You're welcome, Tristan.
spk05: Our last question comes from Ujwal Pradhan. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
spk09: Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. First one, just around the commentary that you have provided around capital allocation framework, very helpful. You discussed the attractive cash flow yields on the units. So compared to that, when you think about new capital projects or expansions, how do you frame the return threshold that you're using internally?
spk11: Yeah, Ujwal, it's a good question, but it's a tough one to answer. You know, depending on the project, you know, aside from just the return, which you're mentioning, there's a lot of factors that come into place. Like, you know, Michael asked earlier, do you have NBC protection? How long is the project, you know, what, what length of, uh, of term deals that you have. So there's a lot of things that come into play. Um, you know, overall, you know, what we've been trying to tell people is, you know, we've moved the capital down for two reasons. One is, uh, you know, we want to set the bar higher than we have in the past, as far as that, that capital discipline. So that's one thing that's driving us. And the second is where the equity is trading. And when we're trading at a 17-ish yield on DCF, that is something that you can get very quickly with no time lag, no capital lag to execute a project, no permitting risk, no execution risk, et cetera, et cetera. So you take that for what it is at that yield, and then you compare it to some of the projects that you know, may even be better than that longer term and may be more strategic for us. But that's kind of the process that we kind of go about, you know, looking at it. You know, if we were trading at a much more valued equity in our mind, you know, that dynamic would be a little bit different. But at least in the short term, while we continue to trade, you know, at these higher yields, you know, makes us really look and I use the word discipline on, you know, whether we want to invest the capital or not. And, And you know this as well as anybody. You know, when you invest capital, you're putting money out for a couple years before you get cash flows, et cetera, et cetera. So you weigh all that in compared to the environment that we're in now. I think the most important takeaway, though, is, you know, we've been trying to move ourselves into this excess cash flow position so that we can have this discussion and have this debate. You know, the very first question that was asked was, you know, growth, distribution growth or leverage or buybacks. or deploying in projects. So I think it's a good position to begin. I'm hoping 2020 shows stability of earnings, and then therefore we move into this, okay, what do we do with the excess cash that we have, and think about what's the best opportunity and what's going to create the most value. And that's kind of the way we look at it, and those are the meetings that we're having internally, and we talk about all the opportunities, and then we're trying to make it as dynamic as possible so that, you know, it's a, continuing discussion that'll that'll occur throughout this year and obviously you get to a point where you want to make a decision and you feel good about that and if it's a you know multi-year capital project we're going to feel good about it if we decide at the time that's the right thing to do and if it's short term where we where we buy back units we'll feel good about that you know from that perspective as well so very dynamic process a lot of a lot of thought that goes into it uh i know everybody always asks the word return what's the return threshold but There's a lot of other factors that go into it as well, obviously return being, you know, one of the most important, if not the most important, but there's other parameters that we also discuss.
spk09: Got it. That's helpful, Mike. And my next question is to Pam. Could you clarify the NGO price sensitivity you mentioned earlier after the Javelina planned sale versus the $23 million for every five-cent change impact that you have pointed out in the past?
spk05: Will you say clarify? In the past, yeah, we had given a rule of thumb or metric sensitivity of $23 million in the past. So it's a small tweak. It's not a material tweak. And there are a number of factors that influence that. But a lot of it has to do with volumes that are related to product sales that we have as part of our percent of proceeds contracts, of which Javelina is one. It's not just specifically related to Javelina, but it is a small tweak, but just wanted to provide you that updated guidance since we've provided it in the past.
spk09: Got it. I'll go back and transcript on that. Thank you.
spk05: Thank you. I'd like to turn the call back over to Christina Kazarian for closing remarks.
spk04: Sounds great. Thank you for joining us today, and thank you for your interest in MPLX. Should you have additional questions or would you like clarification on any of the topics discussed this morning, members of our team will be available to take your calls. Thank you.
spk05: Thank you. That concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating.
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