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5/7/2020
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the first quarter 2020 Netler Toledo International Earnings Conference Call. My name is George, and I will be your audio operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press the pound sign. I would now like to hand the conference over to your Hostess for today, Ms. Mary Finnegan. Please go ahead. Thank you.
Thank you, and good evening, everyone. I'm Mary Finnegan, responsible for investor relations at Mettler Toledo, and happy that you're joining us this evening. I am on the call today with Olivier Filio, our CEO, and Sean Videla, our chief financial officer. I want to cover just a couple of administrative matters. The call is being webcast and is available on our website, A copy of the press release and the presentation that we refer to is also on the website. Let me summarize the Safe Harbor language which is outlined on page two of the presentation. Statements in this presentation which are not historical facts constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the U.S. Securities Act of 1933 and the U.S. Securities Exchange Act of 1934. These statements involve risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause our actual results, levels of activity, performance, or achievements to be materially different from those expressed or implied by any forward-looking statement. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please see our recent form 10-K and other reports filed with the SEC. All of the forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by reference to the factors discussed under the captions, factors affecting our future operating results, and in the business and management discussion and analysis of financial conditions and results of operations, sections of our filing. Just one other item. On today's call, we may use non-GAAP financial measures. More detailed information with respect to the use of and differences between the non-GAAP financial measures and the most directly comparable gap measure is provided in the Form 8-K. I will now turn the call over to Olivier.
Thank you, Mary. Good evening, everyone. I want to start by saying that I hope this finds all of you safe and well. We face unprecedented times, and I hope that you are adjusting. I'm doing this call from Switzerland, while Sean and Mary are in Columbus, Ohio. I will start with a summary of the quarter and then Sean will provide details on our financials. I will then have some additional comments and we will open the line for Q&A. The highlights for the quarter are on page 3 of the presentation. Local currency sales declined 3% in the quarter. The negative impact of COVID-19 to our sales in China was greater than we originally estimated. Local currency sales in other countries, particularly in Asia and Europe, were also negatively impacted by COVID-19. Despite the challenges to sales, with the benefit of our marginal productivity initiatives, as well as some immediate cost containment measures, we increased gross margins and maintained adjusted operating margins consistent with the prior year at 21.8%. Adjusted EPS in the quarter was slightly below the prior year. The global spread of COVID-19 has impacted our businesses throughout the world. Our primary concern is protecting the health of employees and customers. We have diligently instituted safety protocols throughout the world, which is allowing us to continue to provide instruments and services to our customers. a majority of which are in the essential industries, including pharma, food manufacturing, chemical, transportation and logistics, and grocery stores. We quickly adjusted our go-to-market sales approach, how we deliver service and launch new products given the new operating framework we are in. We are leveraging our substantial expertise in advanced data analytics to redirect resources to the best opportunities in markets which are very challenging. In addition, we have already enacted temporary cost containment initiatives which will result in a meaningful reduction in our operating expenses in the near term. Our overarching goal is to be well positioned to capitalize on growth once the recovery occurs. Our excellent competitive advantages, leading positions in fragmented markets, unique sales and marketing approach, steady stream of new products, and a culture known for agility and execution will help us as we look to the future and post-COVID. While we expect the near term to remain challenging, we continue to believe we can gain share, regardless of market conditions. Now let me turn to Sean for the financials.
Thanks, Olivier. I also want to say that I hope this finds all of you well in adjusting to this new environment. Sales were at $649.2 million in the quarter, a decline of 3% in local currency. On a U.S. dollar basis, sales decreased 4% as currencies reduced sales growth by approximately 1% in the quarter. On slide number four, we show sales growth by region. Local currency sales grew 3% in the Americas and declined 5% in Europe and declined 8% in Asia, rest of the world. China local currency sales declined 13% in the quarter. While sales in the quarter were negatively impacted by COVID, I want to also highlight that we had strong local currency growth in the prior year. In particular, Europe had 9% sales growth, And China had 13% growth in Q1 of 2019. On slide number five, we outline local currency growth by product area. For the quarter, laboratory sales grew 1%. Industrial declined 5%, with core industrial down 3%, and product inspection decreased 8%. Food retail declined 16% in the quarter. Food retail reduced our sales growth by 1% in the quarter. Let me now move to the rest of the P&L, which is summarized on the next slide. Gross margin in the quarter was 57.7%, a 50 basis point increase over the prior year level of 57.2%. Pricing and stern drive contributed to the margin growth. R&D amounted to $34.4 million, which represents a 5% decline in local currency. This decline was impacted by the timing of activity and the 9% local currency growth in R&D in the prior year. SG&A amounted to $198.7 million, a 2% decrease in local currency over the prior year. We continue to make investments in our field force, but this was more than offset by some immediate cost containment measures and lower variable compensation. Adjusted operating profit amounted to $141.3 million in the quarter, which represents a 4% decline over the prior year amount of $147.8 million. We estimate currency reduced operating profit by approximately $3.5 million. Despite these headwinds and challenges to the top line, operating margins were 21.8% in the quarter, consistent with the prior year. A couple of final comments on the P&L. Amortization amounted to $14 million in the quarter. Interest expense was $10.2 million in the quarter. Other income amounted to $3.3 million. Our effective tax rate in the quarter was 21.5% before discrete items, and as a reminder, this adjusts for the timing of stock option exercises. The rate is higher than we expected the last time we spoke, and is being driven by the impact of COVID-19 on our results. In particular, we now expect changes in deductions in geographic income mix as compared with the beginning of the year. We anticipate a 21.5% effective tax rate for 2020, but believe we will return to the 20% level in 2021. Moving to fully diluted shares, which amounts to $24.4 million in the quarter, and is a 3.8% decline from the prior year, reflecting the impact of our share repurchase program. Adjusted EPS for the quarter was $4, a 2% decrease over the prior year amount of $4.10. Absent currency, our adjusted EPS growth was flat with the prior year, despite the decline in sales growth. On a reported basis in the quarter, EPS was $4.03, as compared to $4.42 in the prior year. Reported EPS in 2020 includes 12 cents of purchased intangible amortization, 6 cents of restructuring, and a 21-cent difference between our quarterly and annual tax rate due to the timing of stock option exercises. That is it for the P&L. Let me now cover the cash flow. In the quarter, adjusted free cash flow amounted to $48.3 million, as compared to $80.2 million in the prior year. Cash flow in the quarter was impacted by the timing of tax payments and inventory was higher as we built up some safety stocks to facilitate our global supply chain. DSO was at 47 days, while ITO came in at 4.4 times. Let me now turn to guidance. As I know you are aware, Forecasting is very difficult given the significant uncertainty surrounding COVID-19 and ultimate repercussions for the global economy. We are a short backlog business and an outlook for sales growth, particularly for the second half of the year, is extremely challenging. The timing and pace of a global recovery is difficult to ascertain at this time. Given these circumstances, we will not provide formal sales and adjusted EPS earnings guidance for the full year 2020. We would expect to return to providing annual guidance once there is less uncertainty in the global macro environment. We believe we have enough information and insight into our business to provide Q2 sales and earnings guidance. I want to stress, however, that we are cautious on our Q2 guidance as market dynamics are very fluid and changes in customer demand can happen quickly. For the second quarter, we would expect local currency sales to decline 8% to 12% and adjusted EPS to be in a range of $4.05 to $4.45. We acknowledge this is a wider adjusted EPS range than we typically provide for a quarter, which underscores the uncertainty we face in today's environment. Let me provide some additional insights to help you as you continue to analyze our financial results. We expect to continue to benefit from our Spinnaker sales and marketing initiatives, which we believe are particularly important competitive advantage in the current environment. We will continue to benefit from our margin and stern drive cost initiatives, although this will be offset by mixed and volume declines at the gross margin level. We have enacted temporary cost containment measures and discretionary cost reduction actions. We estimate this will reduce operating costs in the second quarter by approximately 9% as compared to the prior year. Olivier will have some additional comments on these actions shortly. Interest expenses estimated at $10 million in Q2 and $39 million for the full year. Amortization is estimated at $14 million for Q2 and $57 million for the full year. Other income, which primarily represents pension income, is estimated at $2.5 million in Q2 and $11 million for the full year. Adverse currency will reduce adjusted operating profit by approximately $4.5 million in Q2 and $14.5 million for the full year. As already mentioned, we estimate our full year effective tax rate before discrete items will be 21.5% in 2020 and is estimated at 20% for 2021. We expect currency to reduce sales growth by approximately 2% in Q2 and reduce it by approximately 1.5% for the full year. Effective with the second quarter, We stopped our share repurchases given the significant uncertainty due to the global spread of the pandemic. We would expect to resume repurchases during the second half of 2020 as our target is to end the year with net debt to EBITDA of one and a half times. We currently believe our liquidity is more than adequate to meet all our financial needs. That is it from my side, and I'd now like to turn it back to Olivier.
Thank you, Sean. Let me start with a few comments on health and safety. I'm very pleased we were able to quickly adopt important safety protocols throughout the world regarding social distancing, hygiene, health monitoring, split shift, and remote work. The organization has adapted quite well, reflecting not only our execution, but also our ability. Although we are not providing full year guidance, let me give you some insight of how we have built our operating model for the coming quarters. At this time, we are working under the assumption of a U-shaped recovery and which is based on Q3 cells being not that different than Q2. A U-shaped assumption would lead us to an improvement in Q4 and better results in 2021 with some likely benefit from pent-up demand. To be clear, these are the assumptions we are using to operate. There are many unknowns and we fully acknowledge that market conditions can change quickly and we will remain agile to adapt our plans as necessary. With that as a backdrop, let me cover several topics that are essential to continuing to serve our customers and positioning ourselves for growth once the economy recovers. First, the transformation of our go-to-market sales approach. Second, how we are adjusting our service models. Third, is how we are continuing to develop and launch new products. Fourth, is our supply chain and manufacturing. And finally, what are we doing in terms of our cost structure. COVID-19 has had an immediate impact on how we engage customers as we now often lack direct access in many countries due to home office arrangements and travel restrictions. With a successful foundation already in place, we were able to transform our go-to-market sales approach very quickly. Our direct sales force has shifted to telesales and we have the digital tools and technology in place to convert customer visits and product demos to virtual meetings and video conferencing. We upgraded our digital library, which holds extensive product information, to allow co-browsing by our customers. With a simple link access, a sales specialist can share a screen with a customer and show product information and demos through simple videos. We are also using advanced analytics with our Salesforce Guidance approach to drive increased focus on newly prioritized customer segments which can benefit the most in this environment. Redirecting resources to best growth opportunities has always been fundamental to our sales approach, and it is more important than ever given the very challenging market conditions. Versus our direct competitors, this ability to target and proactively go after these opportunities is a key advantage. Our sales organization has undergone tremendous change in a matter of just weeks. none of which would have been possible without the foundation and framework of our Spinnaker sales and marketing approach and our big data analytics capabilities. We believe this unique sales and marketing approach will allow us to outgrow the market and win shares during this period. We are also making significant adjustments to our service model. Our team has gone to extraordinary efforts to accommodate customer safety concerns, including late-night weekend service, as well as significantly expanding our pickup drop-off depot service offerings. We are working proactively with customers on required installations and factory acceptance testing. Our service technicians are also leveraging remote capabilities as the service organization continues to demonstrate a high level of agility as they respond to customer needs. Service increased mid-single digits in the first quarter, but we would expect a mid-to-high single-digit decline in the second quarter. We don't expect any meaningful change to our R&D activities, except we needed to adjust how we launch new products in this new environment. A great example is the recent launch of SmartCheck, a benchmark instrument that can quickly verify if a pipette is dispensing accurately. Regular pipette calibration and preventive maintenance are essential to reduce costs and risks associated with out-of-calibration pipettes. However, between calibrations, failures and issues can arise. SmartCheck provides fast and easy pipette verification. It has a small footprint, is simple to use and has results in less than 60 seconds. Our original plan was to unveil it at the European Analytica Trade Conference in March. Instead, we did e-launches with live video streaming of a product demo. We also use this approach to train our sales reps. There is no similar product on the market and this addition to our portfolio helps to reinforce our leadership in Python. This is just one small example of our focus on technology and new products. In terms of our supply chain and manufacturing, thanks to proactive and timely measures by the team, we have had minimal impact to date. We overcame many requirements and challenges in terms of government restrictions, safety protocols, supplier issues and transportation and logistics obstacles. We were able to leverage our experience in China, in which we were one of the first manufacturers to open after the shutdown. We are fully operational and are very pleased with our on-time delivery performance. Of course, Things could change at any time, but as of now we feel good about our ability to maintain our manufacturing operations and supply chain. The supply chain team, throughout the world, have done a great job in allowing us to maintain production and delivery. The final topic is cost actions we have implemented. As you heard from Sean, We expect to reduce our operating expenses by approximately 9% in the second quarter as compared to the prior year. Compared to our original budget for 2020, it is a reduction of approximately 12%, which of course is significant. I am very pleased with our management team throughout the world and the agility and decisive actions they have demonstrated with respect to costs. Sean and I were able to align quickly with senior leaders on appropriate measures and by mid-April implementation was well underway. This has impacted our facilities throughout the world and thousands of employees with little disruption or loss of productivity. Our organization has adapted to the new realities of today and is functioning quite well. In terms of the breakdown of these cost measures, approximately half of the operating expense reduction will come via workforce management, including voluntary salary reductions by senior leadership teams, short work and furlough arrangements. The remaining amounts are meaningful reductions in discretionary expenses, including travel and viable compensations. We view these measures as temporary as we are not making fundamental changes to our structure so we can be fully prepared for the recovery. We will continue to monitor and further adapt our cost structure as necessary depending on how market conditions evolve in the coming months. That concludes my remarks on how we have adjusted our operating model to the current environment. Let me now provide some brief comments on how we see our values, businesses and geographies playing out in the near term. I will start with Labs, which represents more than 50% of total sales. Within labs, businesses such as PIPEDS and AutoPEP had very good performance in Q1. Our strong leadership in PIPEDS, particularly in the United States, has been beneficial given the extensive research and testing being done surrounding the virus. Our automated lab reactors, one of our key offerings within AutoPEP, also have a great support. These instruments and associated real-time analysis tools allow pharma companies to optimize rapid scale-up of processes to lead to mass production of new drugs. This will be extremely important as researchers around the world work towards a vaccine. However, these products also serve markets outside of life sciences that will result in negative growth in Q2. We would expect lab demand overall to be weak in the second quarter as labs are not fully operational due to work from home restrictions. Once they are back operational, we would expect some delays before instrument purchases return to normal buying patterns. We would expect to see lab sales decline low double digits in the second quarter. In terms of industrial business, Let me break it down between core and product inspection. For core industrial, we expect to see growth in China and in certain targeted end markets such as transportation and logistics. As mentioned earlier, our ability to target areas of growth is important to limit the decline in this business given the overall decline expected in manufacturing GDP. Overall, we would expect our core industrial sales will decline mid to high single digits in Q2. Product inspection has some positive and negative factors impacting demand. On the positive side, packaged food companies are seeing a significant increase in customer demand, which bodes well for our product inspection business. However, on the negative side, food manufacturers are very cautious on letting outside personnel into their facilities, which is impacting installations of our instruments. We will see how these factors play out in the coming quarters, but would expect sales to be down high single digits to low double digits in product inspection for the second quarter. Finally, we expect market conditions to continue to be very challenging for food retail. While grocery stores are benefiting from more eating at home, given the heightened demand and challenging operating conditions, they are not focused on upgrading or replacing their weighing instruments for perishable goods. In the medium term, this business could benefit, but for the second quarter, we would expect a significant decline in food retailing, likely in mid-teens range. In terms of geography, we would expect meaningful declines in the Americas and Europe, as well as certain parts of Asia Pacific outside of China in the second quarter. We would expect mid-single-digit growth in China in Q2. That concludes our prepared comments. The current environment is the most challenging and unique we have ever faced. We have quickly adapted our go-to-market approach and our service delivery to continue to meet the needs of our customers. We have leveraged substantial digital tools and technology and our expertise in big data analytics to ensure our front-end sales team prioritizes best opportunities. Our supply chain and manufacturing operations have overcome substantial obstacles to ensure continuous production and our teams throughout the world have quickly adapted to a remote work model. Cost measures are already in place to help us meet the challenges in the coming quarters. I am confident we can continue to gain share during these challenging times and that we will be well positioned once the recovery gets underway. I want to ask the operator now to open the line for questions.
Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, simply press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Again, that is star 1 on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. First question comes from the line of Tycho Peterson from JP Morgan. Please ask your question.
Thanks. Olivier, I thought it was interesting in your comments you called out the lab reactors as potentially having a vaccine tie-in. I'm just curious, as we start to think about potential tailwinds, are there other areas you think you could disproportionately benefit and any preliminary views on labs opening up, academic labs opening up in the fall in the U.S. at this point?
Okay, yeah, so the auto chem business, as highlighted, will benefit. We will continue also to benefit with the pipette business. And then I do expect that more investment will go into bioproduction, and that will benefit, again, our auto chem business will also benefit our posted analytics business, particularly with the Ingalls product. and then industrial will also get some benefits. In general, I do expect that there will be industries and user industries that will suffer for quite a while in this environment and other industries that will be more attractive on one hand short term and we're working on this already when I talked about shifting the priorities for our sales force but then there are also medium term segments that I do view as more attractive going forward. I certainly expect that there is a desire from Western governments to bring back certain active substance production and that, for example, would also benefit us. And when we think about big data analytics and when we think about driving ourselves forth to these opportunities, We look at industry segments, we look at specific accounts, and we certainly also look at announcements that companies are doing in terms of investments.
And then one of the initiatives you've had is to get more of your clients on annualized service contracts. In the context of your comments earlier on service, can you maybe just remind us where you are in that effort? What percentage of your service is annualized and how much cushion that might give you in the near term?
So about half of our service revenue is contract-based. And that business, at this stage, there's no reason why it shouldn't recover. We have good renewal rates and we didn't have translations. In that sense, for that piece, I expect a V-shaped recovery. When it comes to break-fix and other preemptive maintenance work, we certainly see that this is heavily impacted, but typically this would be rather delayed than canceled. In general, I would view our service business as being resilient. But I do recognize, particularly in the industrial world, that capacity utilization and the wear down of our products have also a certain impact on service. Service will be severely impacted here in Q2, but I do expect that we have good recovery in the remainder of the year.
And then just one last one on China. You set up mid-single digit in the second quarter. Can you just comment on the April order book and, you know, what gives you the confidence in mid-single digit for the second quarter? Thanks.
Yeah. Hey, Tycho. This is Sean. Hey, maybe I'll take that one. You know, so for China, yes, we're thinking mid-single digit for Q2. You know, if you kind of think about it in terms of the different businesses, we're probably thinking the lab business will be more like, low to mid single digit. We're expecting more on the industrial side, maybe more like mid to high single digit. But part of that maybe gives you a little bit of a flavor for how things are playing out. Like on the industrial side, we had a much more significant decline in the first quarter. It was down in the mid-teens. But it also shows you that the recovery isn't necessarily a V-shaped recovery. Well, on the lab side in the first quarter, we were down low single digit. And that kind of just shows you that it's maybe a more moderate situation there. And then in terms of April, nothing in particular I'd really want to comment on there. But, you know, of course, we understood the month of April as we were kind of providing guidance for the second quarter.
Great. Appreciate the comment. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Derek De Bruin. Your line is now open.
Hi, can you hear me? Yeah. Hey, this is Mike Riskin on for Derek. Thanks for taking the question. I want to follow up on that last one there on the China comment and also loop that into your general thoughts on the recovery. You made a couple comments in the prepared remarks. that you expect a little bit more of a U-shaped recovery, and so 3Q should be not that different than the 2Q range. Is that just some of the differences in terms of how quickly you expect the labs and industrials to bounce back in America as in the U.S.? You know, is there some conservatism built in there, or is there something else you're seeing in terms of ordering patterns and how these countries, how these other geographies beyond the APAC region have gone through the lockdown so far? Just thinking about, you know, labs reopening and sort of the pace of ordering as we go through the summer and fall.
Yeah. Hey, I think we're going to see big differences in the different geographies, but also in the different business lines when we think about recovery. We talked about service that should have kind of a V-shaped recovery before. I do expect that certain industry segments, for example, R&D labs and so on, they have a sharp drop here in the lockdown, but then we should certainly see a recovery. This is particularly true for more the lower cost instruments that we have. To contrast that, we definitely have a business that is more project-oriented. We have businesses like thermal analysis, automated chemistry, high-end balances, titrators, and then on the industrial side, for example, check wears and x-rays, these are not instruments that customers by within weeks. These are projects that typically take long review cycles and evaluations until they commit and then we shift. So early in Q2, we are still benefiting from a pipeline that existed before COVID and then we have a situation in the lockdown now where very few new projects are initiated as customers for multiple reasons but one is certainly also that people are operating out of home offices other reasons are that companies are slowing down their traffic and then sometimes it can be also that sites are not easily accessible, people don't want to bring additional disruptions by bringing new instruments and so on. So there are different reasons. Now, if I bring all these businesses together and if I think about the different geographies, it starts to sum up more to a U-shaped recovery and this is actually also the context why we are working with an operating model that Q3 will not be better than Q2, and 1AQ4 will start to see improvement because we do expect by then that our project pipeline will be filled again and that we have customers that are, again, initiating larger projects.
Got it. That's helpful. And then right along those lines, if we could go down the P&L on the OPEC side, I appreciate all the color on the 2Q cost-cutting steps. Should we anticipate sort of a similar cadence to that for 3Q and then, again, flexing that back up later in the year and then 2021 as demand recovers? And could you also touch on decremental margins to the gross margin line? Thanks.
Yeah, sure. Yeah, thanks, Mike. So, hey, of course, we're working on and planning cost reductions at the moment, but I wouldn't want to quantify the magnitude of what we're going to do for Q3 at this point. I think it's important that we get closer to the quarter, and then we can differentiate our ultimate execution as we enter the third quarter. In terms of decremental margins, I mean, I think there's – there's a lot of variability at the moment with our guidance. I think probably what I would focus on a little bit is maybe just on the gross margin line. Maybe this is what you were referring to. But if we look at the first quarter gross margin, very pleased with the results. We're continuing to benefit from pricing. Pricing Realization was just under 2% in the quarter, so towards the higher end of our guidance there. We'd expect something similar here in the second quarter as well. We also had some good benefit from our stir and drive initiatives around material cost savings. But of course, offsetting that is the volume impact. And so as that plays out in the second quarter, We're going to see a bigger impact from volume. We'll mitigate some of that with some of our cost savings initiatives, but most of our cost savings initiatives are below the gross margin line. So when we look at gross margin for Q2, if I kind of like look at the midpoint of our guidance, we'd probably be looking at minus 80 basis points for the second quarter. But I caution that there could be a larger range of expectations here than normal just given the impact of volume. So, for example, you know, if we were at the better side of the sales guidance in terms of minus 8, gross margins might be down 50 basis points. But if we were at the worse side in terms of minus 12%, you know, gross margins could be down like more like 120 basis points. So it gives you a little bit of a flavor for how the outcomes can be quite different with volume. Got it.
That's really helpful, Sean, over there. Thanks.
Your next question comes from the line of Vijay Kumar. Your line is now open.
Oh, hi. Thanks for taking my question, guys. One I guess just on the macro side here, Olivier, you know, coming out of, you know, out of lockdown, when you think of a recession, recessionary impacts in the back half, maybe just give us a big picture sense on how is the portfolio structure to, you know, whether a recession and what kind of, you know, growth should we look at? It's 2019. relevant to look at the company now, a decade later, or is that a good analogy on how we should be thinking about top line?
Yes, interesting that you make this analogy. It has certainly also been one thing that we studied. Very early on when the crisis started, We started to do revenue scenarios and we used different data points for that. I think one in particular one that we care most is to look at the different industry segments and how they will be impacted or how we expect them to be impacted. Then we looked also at sensitivities around what we have experienced 10 years ago and Unfortunately I am now already in my second crisis as a CEO and so I still remember well that crisis. Now a couple of things. to consider when you compare it. First, we are today in much better position than we were in 2009 in terms of the exposure. If you think, lab is now more than 50% of our sales, significantly higher share than at the time. Service and consumable is now 33%, also much higher. Core industrial is smaller percentage of sales, while emerging market is a larger percentage. So all in all, we are not immune to the economy, but we do believe we are less reliant on it than in the past downturn. The second point is we have today much stronger SPINACO tools, data analytics and change management capabilities that we did not have in 2009. These are very important practices and really I have seen the power of these tools and approaches in the last few weeks. I was referring in the prepared remarks about a fundamental change in our go-to-market approaches. You know, we have countries where customer visits went down by 90% in the last few days, weeks. And we had to compensate this customer access to other means with other tools. And really, SpinActor and all this other technology that we have already implemented in the recent past, but also new digital technologies that we have piloted and now can scale up are being tested. So the environment today is very different, but in terms of recession impact, there are certainly learnings out of 2009. And we use these learnings also when we build our operational models. You have seen us being here very action-oriented, very fast in terms of cost measures. I think that has also been a learning from last time. we know how to do these things and our organization knows how to respond to these things. Yeah, so I think that's kind of the way I would look at this 2009 comparison.
That's helpful. And Sean, one on the cost actions and margins side, I think I heard you say OPEX will be down 9%. And if revenues are down 10% at the midpoint, are we looking at OPEX being down in line with revenues? And the implication would be if CQ revenues are down, then we're looking at OPEX down, but margins could still end up being down. In the context of, if that's the right way to be thinking about margins being down for 20, should 2021 be a hyper-normal year you know, margin year for you guys as given the cost actions you've taken, you know, and volumes come back, you know, the margin benefit should be above your typical, you know, 75 eps of annual expansion. Thank you.
Yeah. No, hey, thanks for the question, Vijay. Hey, I think, of course, it's a little early to try to look out to 2021, but I think it's good that you asked the question because it highlights on these cost actions that I think it's important to understand that these are largely temporary actions. So a lot of these topics will come back next year, so we won't see necessarily the same level of pickup that maybe you might be implying otherwise.
Thanks, guys.
Operator, could you move to the next question? Operator? Stand by just one minute.
Your next question comes from the line of Patrick Donnelly. Your line is now open.
Hi, thanks. This is Jesse Klink. I'm for Patrick. Thanks for taking the question. Could you just remind us of what percent of your sales generally come within the last few weeks of the quarter and, you know, just kind of your visibility into the second quarter as you're preparing guidance there?
Yeah, sure. So I'll take this, Jesse and Sean. So we're not a hockey stick kind of business. I mean, the third month of a quarter typically is higher from a seasonal perspective than the first month of a quarter, but it's not so back-ended in terms of a hockey stick in the last two weeks. But as we kind of like provided guidance for Q2, there's a lot of ingredients that kind of go into that. I mean, of course, we have the benefit of of seeing the trends develop throughout the quarter. We see how the month of April came together. But as Olivier kind of mentions in our prepared remarks, there's a lot of other APIs that we've been monitoring literally on a daily basis in our virtual war room. And so we've been doing that for quite a while now and to keep kind of a close pulse on the different businesses. So, you know, at a high level, those are a lot of the different factors that we had as we kind of provided guidance for the second quarter.
Okay. And that was really changed in an interesting way that we – what Sean refers to the war roof, we really – from the first week on installed a whole new set of metrics that allows us to really monitor country, business and end user industry specific all the key metrics like leads generation, the number of customer visits, the number of phone calls that we are placing, the number of opportunities, quote levels and so on. We are using all these metrics on one hand to manage the sales force, to manage and guide them, but then at the same time also to get additional visibility for our forecast. And I stress that point because it's obvious that we cannot just extrapolate from the past metrics that we have. In the past, we didn't look on a daily basis on all our metrics, as today we do.
Okay. Yeah, that's really helpful. And then just one more on the capital deployment front. You guys, I think, bought back 200 million of shares in the quarter and talked about suspending that. But what are you kind of looking forward to maybe – get back and, you know, take advantage of lower share prices or, you know, look for other areas of deployment, whether it be paying down debt or just kind of how you're thinking about that throughout the quarter?
Yeah, sure. So, hey, I mean, we strongly believe in the share repurchase program, very strongly believe in it. Our philosophy has not changed at all. For us, it's never been about trying to time the market. So share price will not be a factor in terms of when we try to reenter. You know, we'd expect that we'd, you know, restart, you know, hopefully in the second half of the year here. You know, in terms of capital deployment, I think this is still going to be our strategy going forward. I mean, of course, we still like bolt-on M&A as well if there's some opportunities that are available. You know, but we, you know, in the end, it just came down to caution, you know, just given the significant uncertainty. in terms of forecasting, as we talk about. And we recognize that it's a cautious view. You know, we have a very, very strong balance sheet. We have very strong liquidity. And I think you'll see us get back into sherry purchases in due course and kind of continue to work towards this leverage ratio of one and a half times that we've talked about in the past.
Okay. That's really helpful. Thanks.
Your next question comes from the line on Steve Willoughby. The line is open.
Hi, good evening. Just one follow-up question first on that last question regarding buyback, Sean. When you do look to potentially re-enter and restart the buyback in the back half of the year, would you expect to restart at a similar rate as what you had been doing?
Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, I think we need to kind of see what the situation is, Steve, in terms of, like, what the future looks like at that point in time. Probably, yeah, I think, yeah, it could go different directions. It really will depend on how the world looks when we restart. But I would expect us to get at this, you know, kind of keep at this one-and-a-half times net debt to EBITDA ratio, and I wouldn't expect that. We'd want to wait too long to kind of march towards that ratio.
Okay. Okay. And then secondly, I was just wondering maybe if Olivier or Sean could provide a little bit more color as it relates to your pipette business. It was highlighted as, I believe you said, strong or very strong in the first quarter. I was wondering if you could help either quantify that at all, maybe talk about what you're expecting that business could look like in the second quarter or over the back half of the year, you know, if you're taking up manufacturing capacity at all for that business. Is there any more color on the pipette business?
No, it's not that we're going to have to expand capacity specifically. On the short term here in Q1, we had a very strong demand, but partially it was also because customers wanted to secure supply and then did also stock up a bit. And that certainly required also some capacity expansion. short-term for us. For the full year, we're going to have good growth, but I don't think that it's going to impact the group in a material way. So, don't want to overstate the growth coming out of this.
Okay. And then, Olivia, if I could just add in one more real quick. Last quarter, you talked about the potential growth for some government stimulus in China. We're just wondering if you had any updated thoughts on that potential at all.
Yeah, so that's an interesting one. Because of COVID, the Chinese government councils were postponed on that. This is happening right now. And we just got also updates on the topic in the last few days. We do expect stimulus money. The stimulus money will however be very different to what we had 10 years ago. It's going to go to different end markets. Last time it was very much also infrastructure related. This time what the rumors are It's not less being infrastructure. And there are partially sectors that would not benefit us, but there are others that we like. We do think that CDC hospitals will benefit from it. We do think that pharma production will benefit from it. And so we got to see some benefits to us. but certainly not in the same magnitude as we have seen it 10 years ago.
That's helpful, thank you.
Next question comes from the line of Brandon Couillard. The line is now open.
Brandon?
Brandon?
Operator, could you check the line, please?
Hello, Brandon. Your line is now open. May I ask your question?
Okay. Why don't we go to the next question then?
I think his line is open now. Brandon?
Can you hear me, guys?
Yeah. Yeah, now we have. Okay.
All right, great. Let's try this one more time. Olivier, I'm curious to get your thoughts as to why or why not China – would be a relevant proxy to think of in terms of the pathway that the US and Europe might take as restrictions are lifted.
Can you just repeat the question? I'm not sure I fully got it. Sorry.
Sorry, just curious what your thoughts are in terms of looking at China as a relevant proxy for European and US recovery as restrictions are lifted.
Okay, yeah, good, good. Sorry, actually good question. Hey, China was an ideal learning case for us as a company to learn how to prepare for when the COVID pandemic was coming to different regions. We were well prepared in terms of lockdown and all these things. When it comes to the recovery, it's actually more challenging in the West than in China. I do not expect that the demand will come back that quickly. The lockdown in the West seems to have a more fundamental impact on the economy than it has in China. And in that sense, I'm very happy to see how our Chinese revenue has recovered here in April and the rest of Q2 as we expect today. but I do not expect the same in the West. So to summarize again, China was a good learning case for us in the downturn, but I'm not so sure it will be a downturn.
Super, thank you.
We have another question from Dan Brenner. Your line is now open.
Hi, this is John Sauerbeer on for Dan. Thanks for taking my question. I have a question around customer behavior. Any thoughts around instrument replacement cycles over the next year and how long that these can be deferred on replacements?
Yeah, an interesting question. So when I answer that, I need to differentiate between lab replacement and industrial applications or industrial environments. You know, in a lab environment in the West where it's mostly replacement business, customers will delay the replacement because the driver for replacement is often that new product has better functionality better accuracy, precision, you have software. But if capex budgets are cut or people are not in the office and are not focusing on getting the latest instruments, they will delay these things. In the industrial world, The driver for replacement is actually the wearer and the drive for productivity. In that sense, capacity utilization is one of the key drivers for the industrial business. Accordingly, the two businesses behave differently across the economic cycles. Both businesses will ultimately have a pent-up demand, but the timing of the pent-up demand will be different. What I just said applies to the replacement business, in particular the West. Of course, in industries or countries where you have capacity expansion In terms of investment in new production plants, there you have another driver for pent-up demand.
Got it. Thanks. And just to ask a follow-up, can you unpack the core industry a little bit? In the past, management has discussed how the segment is less cyclical with more exposure to pharma, food, chemical. And just wondering if you could provide some color on demand trends you've seen within the core industrial and how do you think this drags into 3Q and what a recovery could look like?
Yeah, hey, you know, good question. So we're definitely... benefiting a lot from the more favorable mix in our industrial business. You know, if you kind of go back to the question on how do we look in terms of 2009 to now, to me that's part of it too. Like even though our industrial business is a smaller part of the business, it's also in a lot more attractive businesses. Like, you know, in the segments that you kind of mentioned. I think that When I kind of look at Q2 and I look at how the business has kind of held up in Q1, certainly I think that is going to be a differentiator for us. I think also as we... look at the different segments. You know, when you think about something like chemical, just to be clarifying chemical, a lot of, you know, we don't have significant exposure on the oil side of chemical. You know, we'll be more so on like the specialty chemical side of it. But there's pockets of chemical that are actually doing better than others. And so we're having a little bit of a mixed experience there at the moment. The other thing is that you look at a lot of our industrial customers in general, we are serving a lot of essential businesses. And I think that's been a real, you know, that's been very favorable for us. And, again, I don't want to overplay this, that we're not immune to the economy. I just want to play it that we're in a better position than we were. in the past. And I think if you even look at some of the things that we've done from an innovation perspective in the last couple of years, like for example, in our transportation and logistics business, there's definitely some good stories there as well.
Thanks for taking my questions.
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