7/23/2025

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the second quarter 2025 Matador Resources company earnings conference call. My name is Gigi, and I'll be serving as the operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will facilitate a question and answer session at the end of the company's remarks. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes, and the replay will be available on the company's website for one year as discussed in the company's earnings press release issued yesterday. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Mack Schmitz, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations for Matador. Mr. Schmitz, you may proceed.

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you, Gigi, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Matador's second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Some of the presenters today will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures regularly used by Matador Resources in measuring the company's financial performance. Reconciliations of such non-GAAP financial measures with the comparable financial measures calculated in accordance with GAAP are contained at the end of the company's earnings press release issued yesterday. As a reminder, certain statements included in this morning's presentation may be forward-looking and reflect the company's current expectations or forecasts of future events based on the information that is now available. Actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company's earnings release and its most recent annual report on Form 10-K and any subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. In addition to our earnings press release issued yesterday, I would like to remind everyone that you can find a slide presentation in connection with the second quarter 2025 earnings release under the investor relations tab on our corporate website. And with that, I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Joe Foran, our founder, chairman, and CEO. Joe?

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Joe Foran
Founder, Chairman and CEO

Thank you, Mack. And thank you all for listening in. We appreciate it and we look forward to your questions and comments. and being able to report to you that we feel that we've had a very solid quarter, very well executed, and it's pleasing to us because we have some people in new leadership positions, and everybody has really pitched in, and I think it's exciting to see some of the ideas and the programs that they've recommended. and it'll be to everybody's benefit. In particular, I'd like to introduce Bill Lambert to you. Bill is our CFO and head of strategy, and I think you'll find that he has a lot to offer, and you'll see smooth running from this point forward. His aim and our aim as we were getting to know each other was very similar we can come from very similar backgrounds in culture we've laughed about that some and that I think you'll enjoy getting to know him I think many of you already know him but our plan our aim is to increase our production but to also increase our free cash flow not to do one at the expense of the other but to work them in tandem is that if you're Production is going up, your cash flow needs to be going up, and vice versa. If your cash flow is going up, spend it wisely on some production and drilling opportunities, but be careful to keep that strong balance sheet. In times like this where you have the turbulence and the volatility, the strong balance sheet, I think you'll see, is the background for a lot of our initiatives. and has helped us to achieve the progress that we have. More specifically, we believe we're well positioned for the back half of the year with drilling opportunities, cash flow opportunities. We have a billion aid available on our line of credit. Our banks have been very supportive of us. We have all 19 banks reaffirmed their plans to stay in the group, and I think 15 or 16 of the banks are also in our midstream facility. So thank you all very much for that support and vote of confidence. Obviously, as you have seen in the report, that we've increased our full-year guidance for 2026 both in oil production growth and cash flow. Obviously, this is a result of successes in the drilling program, which pleases us, and we're now producing in the Delaware from 20 different zones. My whole career, 40 years, has been spent primarily in the Delaware. We consider that as the land of opportunity, but I'm also glad to report Part of our time in Louisiana has resulted in us having in our deal with Chesapeake to reserve the Cotton Valley formations above the Hainesville and we believe we have 200 billion cubic feet of gas there or more waiting all HBP and just waiting for more stability in gas prices. Another opportunity that we're pleased to mention to you is our midstream opportunities. That has been a game saver with the tightness in the midstream markets out there in New Mexico. We got into it for flow assurance and Greg Krug has guided us in this regard and we've grown our midstream capacity from zero at the time of our original IPO to where we now have $720 million a day in capacity and recently turned that on so it's about half full now but we believe before the end of the year likely to be at full capacity or close to it. The team that has In that regard, we were faced with the choice of either building that plant, which was $200 million or more, or putting that into drilling. We concluded that it was best to build the plant, that that would balance our asset base so that We were in a fee-based business along with the commodity-based business, which would be longer-lived assets and would be a balance to our production, plus, and perhaps most importantly, provide flow assurance to us and our operations. And I've been very glad that Greg... suggested this and helped guide us along the way. In addition, in this regard, we also are now recycling over half of our water production back in, which is a moneymaker for us. We're saving having to buy additional water. In the meantime, we've grown our base dividend. We've raised it six times in four years and as our habit is is to review the base dividend at the end of each year and we take a lot of pride in in the base dividend and trying to make it be the right amount we believe it's most fair to all the shareholders We're very pleased with our results and our buyback of shares, but the base dividend is something that all enjoy and believes helps make people stickier. We continue our brick-by-brick program, and we've paid down debt, so our debt levels is now with a ratio of less than one. Okay. And finally, we've been reducing our lease operating expenses principally through efficiencies and out there in our chemical program, which has been implemented, I think, in a very solid fashion and is generating savings. And the last thing is the way we look at things. I know there are going to be questions on what is the quarter result and how that compares to the sequential quarter. And we tend to look more at how is it over the course of the year. So how does one year compare to the last year? And it's just that the cycle in oil and gas we think is more than a quarter-to-quarter business we we do like like to look at the quarter numbers but the year-over-year numbers are more important for example on production is up a little now but when you look at it year-over-year which you don't have as much timing differences is up 31% so with that let me open the floor for questions and give Bill a chance to talk about our strategy and financial plans.

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you, Joe. It's a pleasure to join the team here. I think really just before we jump into the Q&A, the opportunity to join Matador and the business that we have here, I think our integrated business is extremely well positioned to deliver on both a robust free cash flow margin, as well as oil production growth. And being able to do both of those things is something that we think is unique in this world. So look forward to answering your questions, but very excited to join the team. Gigi, we'll turn it back to you for Q&A.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Ladies and gentlemen, due to time constraints, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question. Again, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question until all have had a chance to ask a question, after which we would welcome additional follow-up questions from you. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. First question is from Tim Rezvan from KeyBank Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

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Tim Rezvan
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Good morning, folks. Thank you all for taking my question. I wanted to start on midstream. I was a little surprised to see there was no change to midstream EBITDA guidance for the year. You had a record second quarter. You lowered midstream OPEX guidance.

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Tim, I think we lost you.

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Brian Willie
President, San Mateo Midstream

Tim, this is Brian Willie. I'm happy to take that question about the record quarter lead. We appreciate you recognizing what a great quarter we had at San Mateo. And really that starts with the men and women in the field led by Thomas Green and Brian Nicholson and some of the others as they brought the new Marlin plant online and increased the processing capacity from 520 million cubic feet per day to 720 million cubic feet per day. And really, San Mateo's record performance during the second quarter was driven by Matador's record production growth during the quarter. And so San Mateo, during the end of the first quarter and during the second quarter, connected to approximately 30 new Matador wells. And those were areas where San Mateo provides oil, gas, and water. And so as Matador's production increased and had record production, that was the same thing with San Mateo. We had record EBITDA. In addition, the team has been hard at work with their party contracts and finding ways to save costs. For example, we often talk about the coordination between the upstream and the midstream. The operations folks on the San Mateo side, led by Sean O'Grady and Justin Haas, work closely with Glenn Stetson and his team, and they're chemical consultants, and we're actually able to save about a million dollars on chemical costs during the quarter. So really just a fantastic job on the coordination between the teams and As we look at the EBITDA for the remainder of the year, the first half of the year EBITDA was about 145.5 million in total, which is about half of the expected EBITDA range for the year 275 to 295 million. And so we still expect that range as Matador is drilling to the Antelope Ridge and away from some of the areas where San Mateo operates. But we're excited to continue to provide flow assurance and great value for Matador shareholders.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Hanold from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

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Scott Hanold
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah, thanks. I'm going to stick on the midstream topic, and I know you all get asked this, it seems like, almost every quarter.

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

And just wondering what your view right now is on the progress of looking at options for that, including potential IPO opportunities. If you could set a view of how do you think about that timeline and what do you need to see from the midstream entity to be ready for that potential value-creating opportunity? Is it a size and scale thing? Is it just one of those things you're just still assessing whether it makes best sense for Matador at this point and its shareholders? Scott, thank you for that. I think as we think about it, We do believe the value of our midstream business is not reflected in Matador's share price today, and we continue to think about ways to highlight that appropriately for shareholders. I think as we think about that, there are a number of opportunities and things we think about with respect to that, and I'll let Brian Willey jump in here as well.

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Brian Willie
President, San Mateo Midstream

Yeah, thanks, Bill. This is a Really an exciting time at Matador. Joe mentioned Bill joining the team earlier this year, and he's been just a fantastic addition to Matador. And it's allowed me to go and focus more on the midstream business and really push forward evaluating some of those strategic transactions. And so whether that's something on the debt side or something on the equity side, there's a lot of opportunities in front of us. But we can be patient at Matador and make sure we do the right transaction for Matador shareholders. You know, we're free cash flow positive, so we don't necessarily need to do any type of transaction at San Mateo. But we do recognize that the value of the industry and business is not reflected in Matador's stock price. And so we look forward to continuing to, you know, provide excellent service to Matador, as I mentioned earlier, as we explore the right strategic alternative to provide the most value for Matador shareholders over the long term.

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Joe Foran
Founder, Chairman and CEO

I would like to add we're not just doing it for Matador. and MADDOR shareholders, but the midstream team has done an excellent job of developing some great relationships with third parties that are repeat business. That's one thing that we've considered is how much of our third parties are repeat and they're almost all repeat and they're the, so many of the really great companies of the basin been there a long time, very strong companies financially and on production, so we're delighted by that progress and think it gives us a lot of options of how to optimize that value. Greg, would you add anything to that?

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Greg Krug
Senior Vice President, Head of Midstream Operations

No, Joe, I think that's spot on. We're definitely looking at any way we can optimize our value for companies for San Mateo and as far as that goes, all the midstream. And so we're trying to look under every stone possible. So we're trying to position ourselves as far as to have the management staff there to be able to realize that.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Zach Parham from JPM. Your line is now open.

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Zach Parham
Analyst, JPMorgan

Hey, thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to ask on activity levels, can you give us some detail on how you're thinking about rig activity in the back half of the year and going into 2026? If you continued running that eight rig program that you're going to be at shortly, you know, what type of production growth does that deliver in 2026? Or is that more of a maintenance program? You know, do you need that nice rig to deliver some production growth next year? And maybe talk about how you're thinking about the decision to add that rig back potentially.

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you, Zach. I think, you know, that's obviously very, very topical right now. And as we look at it, you're right that we will be at eight rigs here kind of basically the end of the week. And as we think about when we might potentially add back, I think we should really step back and think about what was the decision to ultimately change back in April. And what we looked at in April was a macro environment that was highly volatile, and we had the ability and flexibility in our program to optimize 2025 for capital efficiency by moving some things around and reducing rig activity. With that, we were maintaining the free cash flow margin that we think is so important and balancing that against oil production growth. As we look into 2026, and I don't want to guide in detail at this point, but I think as we think about the second half of this year and 2026, what we really think about is how do those two metrics work in tandem and how if there are opportunities to add activity and drive incremental growth, we want to make sure that we can maintain those superior margins and have incremental free cash flow from doing it. What we think one of the strengths of our portfolio is, is we believe that we can defer making that decision until later this year or the beginning of next year and still be able to drive relative growth in 2026 versus what we believe the industry average growth rate will be. And I think that is important because we do believe that Matador has traditionally been known as a growing oil company, and we believe maintaining that alongside the free cash flow generation is kind of the focus of how we think about things going forward.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of John Freeman from Raymond James. Your line is now open.

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John Freeman
Analyst, Raymond James

Thanks. Good morning. Just sort of following up on Zach's question, if hypothetically we're in sort of a lower for longer sort of oil price environment, I was going to touch on something you said earlier in the prepared remarks, Joe, about y'all had a decision a couple of years ago whether to take the $200 million and put it towards just drilling more or putting it towards building that plant. And I'm just curious if you all sort of just in a hypothetical kind of lower for longer environment, if theoretically your growth profile just naturally kind of is a little lower in that environment, does maybe more of that quote unquote growth capital potentially get shifted into the midstream business?

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

So I think, John, to your point, we had the decision on investing in the midstream. And I think really what it goes to is we believe our integrated business can drive best-in-class free cash flow margin. And so I think predicting commodity price has been a challenge for everyone, frankly. And so whether it is lower for longer or volatile, I think what we try to look at is how do we deliver best-in-class free cash flow margin and And so one of the ways that we did that was traditionally investing in that midstream to drive the flow assurance to recognize that we could sell our oil and capture that free cash flow margin. If we had not had the flow assurance that San Mateo provides us and the excellent service that they have, the reality is we wouldn't have had the oil production to have driven the free cash flow that we have today. And so we look to think about these things in tandem on a go-forward basis. And to the extent commodity price follows the forward curve and the steep backwardation that is within it, we'll obviously adjust and manage activity levels on both the upstream and the midstream with that. I think one of the things that we look at, though, is we believe our relative free cash flow margin to the industry alongside the depth of our inventory means that not only can we deliver the exemplary free cash flow margin today, we believe we have duration because of our portfolio to do that, and the midstream and the integrated nature of it helps sustain that over a longer period of time.

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Greg Krug
Senior Vice President, Head of Midstream Operations

This is Greg. I also wanted to emphasize the fact that we do have, I mean, San Mateo has a 99% run rate, and that's huge in the midstream business, and That's the assurance that we get as a producer is that we're going to have an outlet for our gas and oil and water takeaway on a regular basis and something that runs really efficient. So that's another reason we elected to do what we did.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Noah Hungness from Bank of America. Your line is now open.

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Noah Hungness
Analyst, Bank of America

Good morning, Joe and Matador team. I wanted to touch on DNC costs. This quarter you guys had DNC per foot cost well below the low end of your guidance range. I was just wondering what drove that and then how sticky are those drivers?

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

So thank you, Noah. I'll start and then Chris will probably jump in. I think one of the benefits of our portfolio is from east to west across the basin, we have varying depths and varying cost profiles within our portfolios, how we think about it. And one of the things that took place in this quarter is we had exemplary performance in a lower cost area of the basin, more to the westward side. I think the reality, and Chris will jump in here, is as we look to the second half of the year, we have not incorporated significant service cost reductions. We have only thought about these things in terms of the cycle time efficiency at this point. I'll let Chris jump in and talk a little more.

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Chris Calvert
Executive Vice President and COO

Hi, Noah. This is Chris Calvert, EVP and COO. I think it's a great question. Obviously, we appreciate it. you recognizing the DNC cost per foot number. I guess a few things I would like to say to that. Obviously, the improvement year over year, if you look at second quarter in 2024, we're down about 11% from that. I mean, we can refer to slide D in the presentation if you would like to look at it graphically, but I think the majority of that improvement comes from the efficiencies like Bill just spoke to. While we do potentially think there is potential for service costs, you know, more competitive service costs coming in the back half of this year, kind of post-April 2nd. These improvements have been drastically due to efficiencies both on the drilling and completion side, and we can start on the drilling side, really kind of focusing on our U-turn program. If we look at, you know, 2025 U-turns versus even when we started in 2023, I'll refresh everybody's memory. We drilled two wells in the U-turn style in 2023. On average, it took us about 25 days to drill those wells. And in 2025, on average, we've shaved 10 days off of drilling two-mile U-turns in a two-year period. And so I think those drilling efficiencies are not just specific to the U-turn program. We're drilling wells faster on the completion side. In February, we guided around 40 wells would be completed using Trimal Frac. And the Trimal Frac process Year-to-date in 2025, we've already done 30 wells with Trimofrac, and now we expect that full year 25 number to be closer to 50. And so to refresh everyone on that, it's about a $350,000 cost savings every time you can Trimofrac versus zipper operations. And with that, you're also seeing efficiencies of about 20% or 30% faster even versus just Simofrac process. And so I think you have drilling efficiencies, completion efficiencies are speeding up, that all kind of lead to this collective 10% to 15% improvement from January 1st of this year. We're drilling and completing wells about 10% to 15% faster than we were six months ago. And so I think that leads to this improved DNC cost per flow number. And like Bill said, if we see that oil field services come in and there is some sort of deflationary pressure or more competitive pricing, that has not been included in our forward-looking back half of 2025 estimates.

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Joe Foran
Founder, Chairman and CEO

And something I'd like to commend Chris has done very well with is we've, in the 40 years that I've run Matador going back to very inception, we've always taken the approach when these times are that we don't pit one vendor against the other vendor and just try to see which one will get down to the very lowest price. We've tried to build relationships and we have found for whatever reason that That has worked better for creating a long-term reduction and finding of efficiencies because you're not trying to beat them down, but you're working together, and they have ideas how to do things faster and better, and we have them. And by working together, you know, for example, our driller, either they or their predecessors have drilled virtually every well that I've drilled in this 40-year career. And they're finding ways to improve, and we are. And it's been a great collaboration. And the same thing on the pipe business. We're using the same guy for years and years. And then virtually all of our completion, our fracking has been done either by Slumber J or Halliburton. And in there, after each job, we do a post-mortem on whatever area and say, how can we improve? How can we give you better notice? How can we create the efficiencies? And Chris and his team and Cliff Humphreys have done just a great job of building those relationships and the communication between them that has led to a lot of these efficiencies. And the crews, they, you know, that Chris and Our drilling engineers have done a good job of training the crews to look for those little ways to make things more efficient and bring down the cost. Chris, I'm sorry for jumping in on you like that, but I just couldn't resist to brag on you all a little bit on how you've done it without beating people down, but giving them to suggest ways, too, and for you all to find ways.

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Chris Calvert
Executive Vice President and COO

Yeah, thank you, Joe. I appreciate you pointing that out. And one thing I would also just, you know, want to point to is, I think, back to even Zach's question about activity levels as we look into the back half of the year. You know, we understand the headwinds of volatile commodity times, but we also see opportunities. And one of those opportunities is high-grading operational equipment, whether that's rigs, frac fleets. And so, like Joe had mentioned, you know, our primary pressure pumping providers, which is Haliburton next year, you know, we've managed to high-grade a lot of equipment service personnel to where we are able to implement and integrate those simul and trimul FRAC opportunities. And so, like Joe said, it is all about relationships and something that Joe has cultivated over 40 years that we continue to push forward today.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Philip Jungworth from BMO. Your line is now open.

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Philip Jungworth
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Thanks. Good morning. Recognizing that an IPO is just one of the options you could look at to unlock midstream value, but as you think about San Mateo from a public investor standpoint, how important do you think it is that you have a competitive organic growth profile for Matador, or is visibility around third-party volumes enough? And if it is important, do you think of that as more of an absolute type, low, mid, high single digits, type number, or is it more relative to overall Permian Basin levels?

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Thanks, Phil. To start that off, I think Matador thinks of itself as a relative grower in the basin, and I think obviously that growth rate is balanced with the free cash flow margin as we've discussed previously, but I think our portfolio and the depth of our inventory life allows us to grow and sustain that growth with the type of returns we want to have over a long period of time. And I think within that, it does, the partnership that we have with San Mateo, the integrated nature of that business is key to Matador delivering on that and is key for San Mateo from a growth profile. So I'll let Brian talk more about kind of how we think about Matador growth versus third-party growth. But I think first and foremost, The nature of how this business has come into play has really been around driving a superior result for Matador's free cash flow.

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Brian Willie
President, San Mateo Midstream

Thank you, Bill. I think that when we look at growth at San Mateo, we see opportunities both at Matador and with third parties, as Joe mentioned earlier. We have a lot of repeat customers on the third-party side in addition to new customers that we continue to look at and pursue. Especially up in that northern Lee County area where the Marlin plant just came on, we think there's some really good opportunities there. As Joe mentioned earlier, the Marlin plant's about half full right now. I think it's about fully committed on the reserve capacity side, and it'll take a couple years to fully fill up, but it is fully committed. And so those opportunities for growth present themselves on both Matador's side and being able to continue to follow Matador in the drill bit, and then with third parties. We have just a great team and a BD team that's doing a fantastic job. So we see growth on both sides.

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Joe Foran
Founder, Chairman and CEO

And I'd like to emphasize is that... We got into this with the whole idea that, yes, Matador might be the major customer, but to succeed and meet the test of quality, we needed to be sure to attract third-party business, and we really tried very hard to be sure that the runtime of 99%, they enjoy that benefit and all the other benefits the same as Matador. And, uh, and I think that's why it's led to repeat business is they did feel they were fairly treated and communicated in like the operations. And so, so far that's been without problems and we appreciate their involvement and we appreciate the guys in the field who have really done the extra job to reach that 99%. So when you had high storm URI go through. they didn't shut it all in and say, we'll get back next week when it warms up. They slept in their trucks and kept the plants going. And in addition, we've improved the system by adding that connector line between the Black River system and the Marlin system. So we've had gas going in each direction on that connector line as the offloads are needed. So proud of that. proud of that record and proud of the support that we've had and I think that's given us additional opportunities of what we should do for the midstream business and which drives the value of the midstream business so there's some good options that we have ahead of us and so we're very glad we elected to build the plant to take that 200 million build the plant and which left us with enough money to pay down debt and not just put it in additional drilling. I mean, that just adds to the inventory and why we feel we're well-positioned to either keep building the midstream and the regular oil and gas operations and to them in tandem. to do that together and didn't do one to the exclusion of the other. We think that gives us more balance and more stability and gives a big upside to the stock.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin McCurdy from Pickering Energy Partners. Your line is now open.

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Scott Hanold
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hey, good morning, Matador team. Appreciate the details in the cash tax reductions this year and the change to guidance. Any thoughts on when Matador might now become subject to the AMT and how cash taxes will trend on a yearly basis until then? This seems like maybe an underappreciated improvement to your free cash flow outlook. Thank you.

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Greg Krug
Senior Vice President, Head of Midstream Operations

Thanks, Kevin. Yes, this is Rob Macklick.

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

I'm the EBP administration and finance and As we did note in our release, we're very pleased with the Tax Act and are very optimistic on the cash tax savings that that will bring us. We do believe that this pushes out our obligations under the Alternative Minimum Tax for several years based upon our current rates, but we're still analyzing that part. I do think that that is going to be a benefit for us starting in Q3 of 2025 and beyond.

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Joe Foran
Founder, Chairman and CEO

And also to show our seriousness in these areas is that Rob is moving over to do more strategy and chief financial work for the midstream. And Mitt Kolodny is taking over the chief accounting officer and he's come in and does an excellent job. And he and Rob have really worked together, which is important. So, Ben, thank you for joining us and doing good work.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Oliver Huang from Tudor Pickering Holt and Company. Your line is now open.

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Oliver Huang
Analyst, Tudor Pickering Holt

Good morning, all, and thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to circle back on activity. Understand the timing of the drop down to eight rigs as part of the full year plan here shortly. But the year's upstream spend trajectory would seem to apply another leg down in Q4. So I was hoping that you all might be able to walk through the cadence of frac activity anticipated for the rest of the year and any flow through effects we should be aware of when thinking about the start of 2026.

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Yeah, I think. Oliver, to your point, we do see with the current level of activity that to be generally the case. And I think it's a function of, frankly, a lot of good work by the team to pull activity because of the efficiencies that we've mentioned before into the third quarter. And so you're seeing a little bit of higher third quarter capital there. with wells that are being turned on in, frankly, the last couple of weeks of the third quarter. So they're really not contributing to third quarter production as much as they are in the fourth. It's very similar to what we saw in the first and second quarter of this year. And with that, I think that is an important thing for our investors and for you all as analysts to understand about the go-forward nature of the Matador business is that because the Delaware has such prolific rock and multi-zone development is an important piece of how to develop that rock, there will be some larger batch sizes, and those larger batch sizes will naturally have some lumpiness to production as they come on because when they come on, they're really, really prolific. But even with the efficiencies that we are capturing across drilling and completions, there's longer cycle time to having some of the bigger programs than there has been when it was kind of individual or paired developments.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Leo Mariani from Roth. Your line is now open.

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Leo Mariani

Hi. I was hoping you guys could talk a little bit to kind of uses of free cash flow here. Obviously, you guys referred to the brick-by-brick, you know, program here in terms of M&A. So I was hoping you could kind of comment a bit on what you're seeing in the M&A environment. And then obviously here in second quarter, you guys bought back a decent number of shares, I guess for the first time in the company's history, you know, roughly 1%. So could you maybe kind of talk, you know, to both of those and how you, you know, sort of balance that initiative and is the buyback going to be, you know, fairly price sensitive here?

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Mack Schmitz
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Sure. Thank you, Leo. I think first off, just to kind of level set how we think about it. So we think about free cash flow post the dividend because we view the dividend as sacrosanct. And so with that, after you pay the dividend, the remaining free cash flow in any quarter, we think about is how are we going to drive the best value for shareholders over the long term? And with that, we kind of see a couple of different buckets. There's really three that we think about, the first of which is the brick-by-brick land acquisition to kind of reinvest and replenish our inventory life, which we think is very important and runs continuously. It's a strength of the Matador team. The second is, as you noted, the share repurchase program that we have a $400 million authorization on and we're active in the second quarter and our first quarter of having it. And then the final is balance sheet management and paying down debt. And I think really a lot of people have asked us about is there going to be a formula or is there a specific way to think about how we do that in the future. And as we look at it, we think about the value that can happen and frankly the way that the brick by brick works We want to make sure that when we have those opportunities, we can capitalize on them. Similarly, we can't predict the macroeconomic volatility, but when it happens, we want to use the share repurchase program to capture that. And within all of this, we always want to be mindful of kind of leverage and driving total debt down over time as well. So I think that's really how we think about it. I'll let Brian Ehrman jump in on more of the A&D specifics. Thanks, Bill. This is Brian Ehrman, co-president, chief legal officer, and head of M&A. And I think just to reemphasize what Bill said, we really do view the brick-by-brick approach as a strength of the company. That's something we've always done. It's something we've always had a lot of success at. And I think as the market currently is a little more focused on that versus the bigger deals, we view that as a competitive advantage for Matador. As far as the quarter, it was just another typical execution on the brick-by-brick approach, all over the basin, focused mostly in and around our existing units, but really all over the area, and again, just something that we view as a real advantage to Matador.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, listen.

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Joe Foran
Founder, Chairman and CEO

Go ahead. Are you ready for closing remarks?

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This ends the Q&A portion of this morning's conference call. I'd like to turn the call over to management for any closing remarks.

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Joe Foran
Founder, Chairman and CEO

Thank you very much. And I thank you for all your questions. I thought all the questions today were very appropriate and good inquiries. I hope we've answered them. If not, call us back and we'll discuss them with you. So we invite you to do that to be sure you've gotten your questions answered. The second thing I'd just like to note, I hope that you can see, is that Matador has now grown to a part where we have approximately 10 to 12 billion in assets, depending on oil and gas prices and the other opportunities. But we have a team here, a true team of everybody pitching in, and we collaborate and work on this together and it's been a steady process over 40 years. I started in 1983 with $270,000 and we've enjoyed over those 40 years approximately a 20% year after year growth in value. So 20% to $270,000 to $10 to $12 billion in assets and Obviously, you all know me. It wasn't because of my brilliance at all, but I've somehow been able to, year after year, attract the talent to spur that growth. And we're really very excited the way everybody has been pitching in and helping ideas and getting a little better every day. We're in a more complex environment today. than we have probably at any time in our past where Washington is bouncing the ball around and you're not sure where it's going to land and we're trying to maintain maximum flexibility but continue that growth not only in quality of production, amount of production, but in the quality of the production and creating the flow assurance that we can get our product out of the basin and continue to try to upgrade our people and bring on young people. We have a big internship program, 30 people this year. And the people in the field, we think they're remarkable and how they take the initiative and keep the plants and the wells going and are very grateful for them and the banks. And everything seems to be coming together. together that we can continue to offer consistent growth over that time, industry-leading cost, and the knowledge that we've been the first movers on a lot of new formations out there in the Delaware over the years. So we think things look very promising to us. We're excited. And the real issue is there's a lot of things up in the air, as we know, in Washington, in the environment, in the markets. And so we're trying to keep this balanced approach guided by the fact we don't want to increase production if we're not increasing cash flow. And we don't want to be just increasing cash flow and not replacing and adding to our reserves. So very pleased with the growth and continued growth in reserves, continued growth in profitability and ideas. Andrew Parker and his group, VPs, are doing a great job of coming up with more ideas all the time and refining their studies. So that's On this call, I know you've asked questions, I hope we've answered them, but at the same time, supplied you with the notion that internally, we're very optimistic, and you probably saw that in the last open period, where our leadership, we had more insider buying than any other company. And significantly, to me anyway, of having run this company for 40 years, we have shareholders, we have an employee share purchase plan, and we have over 95% participation. So tremendous support from the people on staff to take advantage of it and can see the growth. So we like our chances. The organizations come together. The finances are there. Plenty of dry powder. uh, some great technical work and, um, and having worked all over the basin, uh, we have, as Tom, uh, Tom was primed to give you a rundown that in all these different areas, uh, we had good ideas and good plans. So, uh, uh, and want to, once again, someone mentioned this, uh, truly want to invite all of y'all at one time or another, come visit with us, get to know us a little bit better, have lunch or breakfast with us, meet our young people, and we'll do our best to answer all of your questions and just try to get to know each other better. And I think you'll see that this is what's great about the oil and gas. It's a win-win business, and we're here to win it. for our shareholders, but we're also here to win it for you and others and gain your trust and confidence. So with that, I'm going to sign off, but really offer the sincere invitation to come and see us and take us up on that and let's continue to y'all do your job and we'll try to do ours. Back to you, Gigi.

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Gigi
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation today. This concludes today's program.

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