Minerals Technologies Inc.

Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call

7/26/2024

spk00: Good morning everyone and welcome to our second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. Today's call will be led by Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Doug Ditcher and Chief Financial Officer Eric Alda. Following Doug and Eric's prepared remarks, we'll open it up to questions. As a reminder, some of the statements made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Please note the cautionary language about forward-looking statements contained in our earnings release and on this slide. Our SEC filings disclose certain risks and uncertainties, which may cause our actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Please also note that some of our comments today refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation to GAF financial measures can be found in our earnings release in an appendix of this presentation, which are posted on our website. Now I'll open it up to Doug. Doug?
spk06: Thanks, Lydia. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining today. Okay, let's go over a quick outline for today's call. I'll begin today's presentation by reviewing some highlights from our second quarter. I also want to take a few minutes to highlight the transformation that's been happening at MTI and how this is leading to our higher levels of performance. I'll then give you an update on what we're currently seeing in our end markets and conditions for the remainder of the year. Eric will then take you through detailed financials and provide an outlook for the third quarter. And I'll finish up with a small advertisement for our 16th sustainability report, which we published earlier this week and mentioned a few highlights. We'll then open the meeting to questions. With that, let's get started. We delivered another record quarter. and our portfolio of businesses continues to show its strength. This quarter was also an example of strong operational execution by our team and how we're leveraging the power of our new organization. Let me take you through some of the specific highlights. Sales this quarter were $541 million. The consumer and specialty segment grew 3% over last year on an underlying basis, driven by strong growth in both our consumer specialty and specialty additives businesses. Sales in engineered solutions were slightly lower than last year as growth in high-temperature technologies was more than offset by lower sales in environmental and infrastructure due to the continued weakness we are seeing in the commercial construction market. Operating income was $85 million, a record level for the company and up 20% over last year. Margins continue to expand, reaching 15.7% in the quarter ahead of our interim target for this year. We saw a favorable mix of our higher margin products, captured synergies from the reorganization, and our teams continue to execute on our pricing strategies and capture input cost savings. Each business is performing well operationally, focusing on safety, variable cost control, and productivity improvements. Earnings per share were $1.65, a 26% increase over last year. Operating cash flow also remained strong, increasing 10% over last year. I also want to give you an update on our status with the BMI bankruptcy. As you likely saw in our press release, we agreed to establish a $30 million credit facility for BMI in order to support continued progress with the bankruptcy and mediation process. We see this as a constructive step to keep the process moving forward as expeditiously as possible to a fair and final resolution for all parties. Eric will go into more details on this in his update in a few minutes. So, overall, I'm pleased with the quarter. the track the company is on, and our performance so far this year. We're delivering solid results quarter after quarter, despite facing a few market challenges. We have momentum across our businesses and across the organization, and we see even higher levels of performance to demonstrate going forward. I want to take a few minutes to review the progress we're making against our strategic objectives and use our first half results as a backdrop to highlight the strength of our business model and of the portfolio of the businesses we've built. Let me begin by saying that our strategy to position ourselves in higher growth and more profitable markets and to invest in new technologies is truly transforming MTI. We've built a resilient portfolio of businesses across both consumer and industrial sectors that provide stable growth platforms to balance instances of industrial market volatility like we are seeing today. We've outlined that our long-term potential is supported by our leading positions in these markets and geographies, by our core technologies, and by our unique mineral reserves. Our first half financial performance is a good example of the type of results this transformation can drive. I want to highlight for you some of the significant changes we've made in each business, the new positions we've created, and why we are confident we can not only sustain but strengthen our performance going forward. Let's start with the consumer side of the company. We've invested in and assembled a portfolio of consumer-based products designed to deliver stable long-term growth. It includes a leading pet litter business with a vertically integrated global footprint. We continue to leverage the value of this footprint to expand in North America and Europe and in Asia to satisfy demand from growing pet ownership trends. This private label business is positioned to grow steadily and outpace the broader market rate. We've made tremendous progress integrating the acquired parts and optimizing it into a global business platform. And over the next couple of months, we'll be launching a new global brand for this business to reflect this integration and provide a unified reference for our customers. We've expanded our consumer specialty businesses into higher margin growth markets like animal health, personal care, and oil purification, and invested in new natural ingredient technologies that are aligned with macro consumer trends. In specialty additives, our new recycling technologies like NewYield for the paper and packaging industry are gaining significant traction and have become the standard and leading value generator for industry customers who require sustainable solutions. On the industrial side of the company, we've positioned our high temperature technologies business as the leader in growing foundry markets around the world. and we are transitioning our refractories business with new, advanced formulations and through automated equipment and data collection systems like our MINSCAN LSC. We're expanding our environmental and infrastructure portfolio to help solve global challenges with technologies like Florisorb for PFOS remediation and drilling products for geothermal heating and cooling systems. These leading positions and innovative solutions generate higher value for our customers and are generating higher margins for us. Our first half operating margin is just over 15%, and we've generated $162 million in operating income, up 21% over last year. An EPS of $3.15, which is up 28%. This profitability is driven by this newer mix of products and also by our culture of operational excellence, which continues to drive efficiencies, remove waste and processes, and helps us leverage our growth over disciplined overhead spending. I also think it's important to note that throughout this transformation, we've maintained our historically strong cash generation profile and our balanced approach to capital allocations. This year, we've generated $106 million in cash from operations, a 34% increase over last year, and are generating free cash flow at our target level of approximately 7% of sales. We returned $22 million to shareholders last year and expect to return approximately $75 million this year. And at the same time, we've strengthened our balance sheet leverage to 1.7 times EBITDA. This financial strength, the capability of our aligned and focused organization, and our strong operating culture is a solid foundation to continue to build upon. We understood when we established our five-year growth and financial objectives that the journey would not take a linear path. But our results thus far demonstrate that we've put ourselves on a solid trajectory to achieving them. Now let's review what's happening in our end markets and the trends for the remainder of the year. Also with household and personal care, we're seeing strong demand for our consumer-oriented products and continue to have a positive outlook for this product line. The summer months are the seasonally low demand point for our pet litter business. However, the market begins to enter its strong season late in the third quarter. And for our other consumer specialty products, we expect similar demand levels into the third quarter and sales for these products to remain on their strong growth path. In specialty additives, we expect generally stable market conditions in paper and packaging and in food and pharma to remain through the second half. Residential construction in the U.S. is also relatively stable for us, yet remain below the levels we saw over the past two years. In addition, we're ramping up three satellites in the second half of the year, which will add to volumes in 2025. And we continue to have a strong pipeline of paper and packaging opportunities, driven by demand for new yield and for other products targeting the packaging market. In high temperature technologies, we see similar market conditions the first half in all regions, except for a weaker agricultural equipment market in the U.S., which will have a small impact on our second half metal casting volumes. We're also keeping our eye on lower steel prices in the U.S., which could impact steel production levels. But we're benefiting from the MINSCAN installations we've completed over the past year and have several more scheduled in the second half. And overall, we're expecting another strong profit performance from this product line. Environmental infrastructure is where we see continued softer market conditions and the one product line with lower sales compared to last year. We expected to see some improvement in the commercial construction market in the second quarter, but given the interest rate sensitivity of this market, our order delivery dates began to slip from the second quarter to later in the year. Our current expectation is that any meaningful market inflection will likely be late this year or early next. Despite this, other parts of this product line, like wastewater remediation solutions and drilling products, remain solid. I'd like to note that in this product line, our Fluorazorb product continues to gain traction. We've completed a municipal water installation in Q2 and currently have over 100 pilot projects in various stages. We remain closely engaged with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and are gaining similar recognition and engagement with agencies in Europe. To sum up, we see a relatively positive market landscape ahead for us, albeit one with a few additional pockets of industrial market weakness. The second half demand picture for some of our industrial markets looks to be a bit less certain than it was in the first half, but it's one we feel we can navigate successfully to deliver another record year. Now I'll turn it over to Eric to review the financial details, segment highlights, and our financial outlook for the second quarter. Eric?
spk02: Thanks, Doug, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin by providing an overview of our second quarter results, followed by some details on the performance of our segments, and I'll wrap up with our outlook for the third quarter. Following my review, I'll turn the call back over to Doug for some highlights from our latest sustainability report. Now let's review our second quarter results. We delivered another strong quarter, with records for operating income, EBITDA, and EPS excluding special items. Sales in the second quarter were $541 million, up 1% on an underlying basis versus last year. Operating income increased 20% over last year to $85 million, a record for the company. And operating margin expanded 290 basis points to 15.7%. For the first half, our operating margin was 15.1%, well above the 14% interim margin target we set for 2024. You can see in the operating income bridge that volume and mix increased income by $3 million, which is net of the impact from the deconsolidation of BMI last year. The consumer and specialty segment contributed most of the favorable volume impact, while the favorable product mix came mostly from engineered solutions driven by higher sales of our newest automated refractory equipment within high-temperature technologies. Together, volume and mix contributed 80 basis points of margin improvement. Higher selling prices drove an additional $3 million of income, contributing 40 basis points to the improvement in operating margin. The remaining $8 million of income and 170 basis points of margin growth came from an improvement in our overall cost position. We are realizing the benefits of productivity and variable conversion cost savings. a generally stable input cost environment, and the full run rate impact of our $10 million cost savings program. We also benefited from favorable energy costs relative to our expectations heading into the quarter, as our supply chain team did a nice job taking advantage of lower rates. EBITDA was $108 million in the quarter, and EBITDA margin was 19.9%, up 310 basis points over the last year. Earnings per share was $1.65, excluding special items, up 26% from prior year. And cash flow remains strong, with cash from operations of $50 million, 10% higher than last year. Before we move on to our segments, let me take a minute to outline the special items in the second quarter. We recorded special charges of $34 million, primarily related to a $30 million provision for credit loss relating to the company's committed line of credit to BMI Old Co., which is the entity formerly known as BMI. MTI provided this line of credit to facilitate progress in BMI Old Co.' 's bankruptcy proceeding and ongoing mediation process. Thus far, MTI has loaned $5 million of this $30 million commitment, However, a provision for the full amount was necessary since the funds will likely be consumed in the process and or credited toward the ultimate creation of a 524G trust. Now let's review the segments beginning with consumer specialties. Second quarter sales were $284 million, 3% higher on an underlying basis. Sales in the household and personal care product line were 1% higher year over year. Cat litter sales were temporarily lower this quarter due to the timing of product changeovers at a few retailers in the U.S. Meanwhile, we saw higher sales in several high-margin consumer applications, such as personal care, fabric care, and animal health. In specialty additives, sales were 4% higher on an underlying basis. We had solid volume growth in paper and packaging, driven by improved market conditions in North America and Europe. and the ramp up of our newest satellites in Asia. In addition, we've seen relatively stable demand for our products serving the residential construction market. Segment operating income was $44 million in the second quarter, 29% higher than last year, driven by higher volume, improved product mix, favorable input costs, and higher pricing. And our operations teams delivered a strong productivity performance. In short, the business is performing well. And as a result, operating margin has improved significantly, up 370 basis points from prior year to 15.4% of sales. Looking ahead to the third quarter, we expect year-over-year growth for household and personal care in the mid-single-digit range. In specialty avenues, we expect underlying sales growth to remain similar to what we saw in the second quarter. Overall for the segment, we expect underlying sales growth versus last year in the low to mid single digit range and operating margin remaining strong around 15%. Now let's turn to the engineered solutions segment. Second quarter sales were $257 million, 2% below last year. In the high temperature technologies product line, sales grew 1%. In North America, foundry and steel markets have been stable, with the exception of softening ag equipment demand for some of our foundry customers. In Europe, steel markets have remained sluggish through the first half. Meanwhile, we saw continued growth in foundry volumes in Asia, driven by market penetration of our differentiated green sand bond systems and technical services. In the environmental and infrastructure product line, sales were lower by 8%, driven by weakness in commercial construction and large environmental projects. When we talked to you last quarter, we expected more projects to move forward in the second quarter. However, we've seen a continued shift in the timing of projects for this business. Segment operating income was $45 million, up 16% over last year, driven by higher volumes and a favorable product mix in high temperature technologies, as well as disciplined pricing and cost control. Operating margin was 17.4% of sales, up 270 basis points from prior year. Looking ahead to the third quarter, we expect market conditions to remain similar, with sales for the segment slightly lower than last year, and that's driven primarily by the market conditions in environmental and infrastructure, as well as softer conditions in the North American ag equipment market. And we expect operating margin of approximately 16%, in line with our target level for this segment, although lower than the second quarter due to a more normalized product mix. Now let's turn to our balance sheet and cash flow highlights. Our cash flow performance has been strong. Cash from operations for the first six months of the year totaled $106 million, up 34%. And we delivered free cash flow of $69 million, more than double the first half of last year. For the full year, we expect free cash flow in the $150 million range. We deployed $37 million toward CapEx in the first half, and we expect between $90 and $100 million of capex for the full year. The rate of capital spend will increase in the second half as we invest in several new paper and packaging satellites, including those equipped with our new yield recycling technology, and as we complete several units of our high-tech refractory equipment for delivery and installation at customer sites. In the second quarter, we also repaid $10 million in debt and returned $23 million to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends. To date, we have repurchased $49 million of shares under our one-year $75 million authorization. Our balance sheet remains very strong, with over $500 million of liquidity and net leverage at 1.7 times EBITDA. Now I'll summarize our outlook for the third quarter. we expect a similar level of sales and a solid operating performance in the third quarter. In consumer and specialties, we expect underlying sales growth in the low to mid single-digit range versus last year, driven by higher sales of cat litter and other consumer-oriented products. In engineered solutions, we expect sales to be slightly lower than last year, similar to what we saw in the second quarter. In summary for MTI, We expect sales between $535 and $545 million, continuing the same underlying sales growth trend we saw in the first two quarters. With a more normalized product mix, as well as some seasonally higher energy costs, we're expecting operating income between $77 and $80 million, and operating margin remaining strong at close to 15%. And we expect EPS between $1.50 and $1.55. Where we land in this range depends on how demand plays out, especially in the few industrial markets where we've noted some softness. Regardless, delivering this guidance would represent a record profit level for a third quarter and would position us well to deliver a record performance for 2024. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Doug to share some highlights from our latest sustainability report.
spk06: Thanks, Eric. Hopefully you can hear me this time. Let me finish up here and then I'll make some comments on making sure that our replay and the transcript is very clear for you. But before we go to questions, I just want to finish up by highlighting our latest sustainability report. It's the 16th that we've published. For the past decade and a half, we've outlined in these reports how safety, environmental stewardship, financial strength, Employee engagement, customer satisfaction, community relations, and shareholder engagement have always been part of our values. Cornerstones of how we run the company and key facets of our strategy. This year's report is a broad one that reflects all the company has done and continues to do in each area. And a few highlights from this year's report. You'll see that we continue to make significant progress toward achieving our 2025 environmental goals. And in fact, to date, we've already significantly exceeded 10 of our 12 targets. We've initiated a science-based target initiative that we'll use to frame our new long-term environmental goals. And we've published the first draft of our scope three emissions. Please take some time to read through the report as it highlights our culture and the passion our employees have for our company. It's a true testament to our team's actions to help MTI make a positive impact in each part of the world in which we operate. I want to thank you for your attention today. It was brought to my attention that a lot of you probably couldn't hear or there was an echo in terms of some of my remarks. We had a bit of a fire drill in here making sure that that was corrected, but we'll make sure that there's a clean audio replay for you to listen to for my 10-minute remarks and also a very clean transcript for you to read at your leisure. Anyway, operator, let's now move it to questions.
spk04: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. We'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for questions. We will take our first question from Daniel Moore with CJS Security.
spk09: Thank you. Good morning, Doug. Good morning, Eric. Hopefully you can hear me. I heard you loud and clear.
spk06: We can hear you. Well, did you hear anything I said, Dan?
spk09: I heard it all, so hopefully others did as well. Maybe start with consumer. You know, a lot of consumer, you know, more discretionary businesses had a tougher time in Q2. Your consumer businesses held up really well. Feeling any sort of pinch at all, you know, in those businesses, just from maybe a tougher environment, that's one. And two, in the pet care side, maybe just a little bit more detail regarding the product changeover. when you expect volumes to return, and ultimately, could that be a great opportunity?
spk06: Yeah, thanks, Dan. Actually, we saw, you know, strong, continued strong demand across the consumer-oriented products, you know, in household and personal care. You know, a lot of these products are not – they're more consumer non-discretionary. They're cat litter. They're, you know, pharmaceutical-driven. They are into beverages, things that folks are buying regardless. They're not your typical consumer spending downturn type item. So we saw some strong demand. The changeover, you know, again, I'll pass it to DJ to give you some more color. It's part of that business in the pet care business. It happens regularly. We just called this one out this time just to give you some comparisons year over year, but nothing abnormal. DJ, do you want to go into more color on what that was about and kind of how it plays to some of the strengths of what we're doing in pet care?
spk05: Sure. Thanks for the question, Dan. Just to echo part of what Doug said, Basically, what shifts that we're seeing in the consumer market are favorable to us or continues to be private label, especially in the cat litter, is growing at a higher rate than the rest of the market. We're able to take advantage of that, but we also have got great positions with our branded customers. As far as this changeover goes, it's part of our strategy. to work with our partners in their private label strategies and that will on occasion just as we reset and reintroduce new products and upgrade those products we'll see this from time to time but in general things are going according to our strategy, good-looking second half, fast approaching. And just to give you some broader dimension of some of the things that we'll do during these upgrades, it could be as simple as an ergonomic shift on packaging or just a change in packaging type or maybe a change in fragrance, but then it also gets more complex to change the look and flow of the product to promote greater hygiene at the home. So it's a couple of different changes going on with some of our good retailers, but overall it's helping further grow this category and also improve our margins as we upgrade the products.
spk09: Okay. Maybe switching gears to refractories, in the high-temperature tech part of the business, you know, I think we've installed about a dozen or so automated systems over the last two years. There's, I think, 60 or so in electric arc furnaces. What are your expectations for growth going forward? Has the level of hanging fruit been picked, or is there a really steady you know, let's say slope of upgrades still ahead of us.
spk06: Yeah, I'll take that and then I'll pass it over to Brett. No, there's a long road ahead of us here. There's, you know, we're just, this is an electric arc furnace application. I think we've installed 15 of them over the past two years. We have another five, I think, to install this year. There's more than that in the United States, and I think we're now just introducing it in Europe. But, Brett, you want to give us some kind of how this is playing out and... Sure.
spk03: Thanks, Dan. Look, as we've talked about before, the market has shifted from a BOF or integrated steel more towards the non-integrated steel or electric arc furnaces. We've installed this new equipment, of course, for safety reasons, for more efficient refractory applications for our customers. And it utilizes a combination of our laser technology, including the refractory supply, probably around $150 million over that period through 2020. They're moving from the integrated to the non-integrated. And so we want to be there to help them and we're well aligned to meet their needs.
spk06: And Dan, as you know, these are set up, as mentioned, kind of five-year contracts that provide not only the equipment either as a capital sale or a lease. but then the refractory through it. And we've changed our refractory formulations for the electric arc market. That's what I referred to, some higher-tech formulations, this equipment, and some of the data gathering that we're working on to bring some more intelligence to that process. So it's kind of a different business than it was four or five years ago in terms of just per-ton gunning. Now it's a different model that we're going at, and I think we still have some room to expand that globally.
spk09: Excellent. Maybe switching gears one more, and I'll jump back to you. But just how should we think about the $30 million commitment to BMI? Is that for legal expense, or will a good portion of that likely go to fund the eventual settlement? And, you know, does this anyway reflect kind of expectations around timing of when we might finally put it through?
spk06: Yeah, it's going to fund the process largely. Those are legal expenses to continue to fund the process. We're in mediation right now. Look, I think it's a supportive and constructive step to keep the process going. It's a very structured process, as you can imagine, through bankruptcy. You know, I can't give you right now a date as to how it will play out or when it will play out. But I can say that being in mediation is still a good process, right? So we feel like this $30 million should fund it through largely toward the end of the year. And we think that's a good runway to keep that process going. So a constructive step. We wanted to keep it going. And like Eric said, either it will be consumed or it will probably be contributed into the fund if the mediation solves itself sooner. But either way, that's why we took the charge to account for it this way.
spk09: Okay. Very helpful. Thank you. Any follow-ups? Thanks again. Thank you, Dan.
spk04: We will take our next question from Mike Harrison with SeedCourt Research Partners.
spk08: Hi. Good morning. Just another clarification of the $30 million. Is that something that you could recoup at some point? I think you kind of classified it as a credit line, which implies that it might be repaid at some point. Is that the expectation?
spk06: You know, our expectation right now, which is why we took the full charge for the $30 million, is that it will either be consumed over the next several months to fund the process going forward, or if that mediation ends for some reason, it will be a contribution into the trust. So either way, I think it's going to be accounted for as fully consumed one way or the other into the process, into the bankruptcy. Mike, if that helps. Okay. Understood. Okay.
spk08: On the engineered solution business, just the guidance that you're providing for Q3 and the 16% operating margin level, which is a lot lower than what you just reported here in Q2, you referenced that the mix is going to be normalizing. Can you give a little bit more color as to what was unusual about the mix in Q2 that would have such a dramatic impact sequentially on the margin performance?
spk02: Yeah, Mike, thanks. This is Eric. So it was the several equipment sales that we mentioned. That was the main contributor of the more favorable mix in the second quarter relative to what we're expecting in the third. Part of that's driven by, I mean, Doug alluded to the fact that some of these are outright sales and some of these are leases. So the ones in the second quarter happened to be outright sales, and that gave a boost to the margins in the second quarter. We have, I think, five to go or five planned equipment sales through the rest of the year, but most of those are structured as leases, so a little bit different of an impact on margin. Although I will say they're all including our refractory products, so they do provide a nice long-term recurring revenue stream for us in that way. But mostly I would say it was the high-margin equipment sales in the second quarter, and then a little bit of energy as well in terms of Q2 to Q3 we're seeing a little bit higher energy costs. But those are the main margin differences.
spk08: All right. And then I had a couple of questions on the pet care business. Did this product change over timing? Did that pull volume forward into Q1 or is it going to push volume out into Q3? Or am I confused on the whole mechanism and I shouldn't be thinking about it as different timing of volume hitting your P&L?
spk06: Yeah, so we certainly don't want to make a bigger deal of it than it is. So we had probably a few customers change over this quarter. You know, the dynamics are different with each one. You know, you're changing – box types, artwork, pails, technology, et cetera. And in this case, it was with a larger customer that, as DJ, I think, mentioned, we're moving to a different technology. So we forecast that that would happen. Sometimes the timing of them and the duration of them are different. So it really wasn't anything out of the normal. We didn't pull anything in to fill up the stocks. And I will say, though, that after the changeover occurs, and that's why I think Eric is mentioning pet care volumes growing, Two things are going to be happening the back half of the year. One, that changeover, one or two of those changeovers should be complete. Plus, we start to hit the high season for pet litter. The colder months are usually higher pools. There's usually promotions that are going on late in the fall. And so I think once a couple of changeovers have moved through, And we'll likely have another one in the fall. But either way, that with the higher seasonal volumes will pull through, Mike. It's nothing out of the ordinary. It was just to highlight the comparison of last year.
spk08: Got it. And then there was also a comment, Doug, in your remarks that you guys were launching a new global brand. Can you share some more details there?
spk06: Yeah. Let's see, how many brands? We have four brands in this company right now. So if you know how the business has been put together, it started as a $70 million business operating under, you know, really not even a brand under the American Colloid ACC brand name, part of the Amcol acquisition. We bought in 2018 a company in Europe called Cibomatic. We purchased in 2021 another company called Normerica. and then in 2022 or three if my memory serves me we bought in a third company in slovakia called concept pet so we have four different companies and we've now integrated them into one global company that we use and and we're expanding now into asia So we've invested in infrastructure. We've invested in automation. We've invested in to make sure that these are the lowest cost plants. They're all vertically integrated. We're starting to use those reserves globally to support customers, large customers that operate globally. And so now that that integration is done, we think it's time to have that business, which is $400 million, and our targets are to grow it to over $500 million in the next two or three years, have its own identity, and one that our customers can refer to, whether they're in Asia, Europe, North America, anywhere. And so we're kind of excited about that. We're working on it, and so stay tuned. I just wanted to give another brief advertisement on that brand name coming out. It should be coming out in the next couple of months.
spk08: All right. Very good. Thanks very much. I'll get back to you. Thanks, Mike.
spk04: We will now take our next question from Kyle May with Sedoti.
spk07: Steve Ferdesani on for Kyle. Appreciate the detail on the call this morning. I wanted to ask a little bit more on the strength and margin in the quarter. And obviously, you pointed out the product sales on the refractory side. But when I look at your bridge, it looks like mixed was a smaller piece. A lot of it came on the cost side. Can you highlight a little bit more of those efforts? And, you know, to get that kind of margin improvement in a relatively flat market is impressive. Is there more to go on the cost side?
spk06: Thanks, Steve. Thanks for the question. So, yeah, margins were strong, and we are ahead of our targets for the year. We had highlighted that we'd be at 14% kind of for the year this year, and our target was 15% for next year. I think we're probably going to be right around a year early on that target. But what's behind it is a couple of things. Yes, you saw that it's partially cost. And I think as we've seen that inflation stabilize over the past year, we've done a great job in terms of stabilizing that cost base. But I think that was a true reflection of what the company from a cost base really is in terms of profitability. My comments were, this is a little bit different. We've invested in higher margin markets. We've invested in technologies that are addressing more challenging issues, providing those solutions which generate higher margins for us with the value we provide. And so that mixed story and that volume, so volume is coming from positions we're putting ourselves in in growing markets. That's adding, we're leveraging that volume and that price over a disciplined cost base. You know, the mix is coming from, as we mentioned this quarter, we've got some high-tech, you know, equipment, but it's also coming from some of the consumer and the specialties. It's coming from animal health. It's coming from these personal care products. It's coming from bleaching. These are higher-margin products that we've invested in over the past few years. The pet litter business is becoming, as we've integrated and invested in cost reduction, a higher-margin business as well, which is now steadily growing. So I think what you're seeing is, you know, the cost base, yes, we are generating some benefits from cost, but it's a more stable cost base from where it was last year. And what you're seeing now is this mix and this volume really being leveraged and putting ourselves in higher margin products. And that leads me to tell you, yes, there is more to go. continue to grow. They're growing at a faster pace. They will accrue to our margins, and we're going to be disciplined about that overhead spending, as you know us, and leverage all those new sales over that fixed cost base, so there's more to go.
spk07: Excellent. Thanks for that. On the free cash flow target of $150 million, it sounds like you have more CapEx to go in the second half, so a two-piece question. Where is the CapEx going in the second half, and Any risk to that $150 million target?
spk02: Thanks, Steve. This is Eric. I think we feel pretty good about that cash flow target, the cash from ops target. The company's generating strong levels of cash flow, and working capital's in good shape. The efficiencies are in good shape. In terms of the ramp-up in capex spend, I referenced a couple of the areas, but it's basically we've got... Four paper and packaging satellites being constructed and wrapping up in the fourth quarter. and into the first quarter of next year. And we've got MINSCAN. Those are the refractory equipment. We've got completion of several of those units in the second half of the year. And then I would say it's a handful of smaller kind of de-bottlenecking and automation projects that we're also working on. But we do expect the CAPEX to ramp up from the first half into the second half.
spk07: Thanks, Doug. Thanks, Mark.
spk04: We will take our next question from David Silver with CL King.
spk10: David Silver Yeah, thank you. Good morning. David Silver Hi, David. David Silver Maybe just to start, I'd like to get a little clarification on the most recent question about free cash flow for the year. The $150 million target, as you're looking at it right now, is that inclusive of the $30 million line of credit for BMI or, you know, or is that exclusive of that? In other words, that's kind of a new element, you know, since the beginning of the year. Is it going to be $150 million even after allocating the $30 million, which I think you this year.
spk02: Thanks, Dave. Just as a matter of geography on the cash flow statement, that's going to go into cash from investing, the $30 million as a loan. But it's going to be cash out. Very good.
spk10: But it'll be cash out flow for the company, yeah. Okay. Thank you for that clarification. You know, sticking with Eric, you know, I was parsing some of the language in the press release and some of the things here today. And I'd like you maybe to comment on price costs, you know, from a company-wide perspective. But there is an element of price, you know, in your performance. this quarter, year over year, let's say. And there's also an element of cost reduction. So, you know, historically we've been, you know, a little bit trying to catch up on price, you know, in an inflationary environment. And you've done a good job about that. But is there an element in the results this quarter prices at the same time you were reducing costs, like, let's say, for selected product lines, or were the cost reductions, you know, elsewhere, maybe at the SG&A level? But just to comment on price cost and how that played
spk02: Yeah, so I mean, I'll just break it down. In terms of the cost favorability that we saw, it was split roughly. So we showed $8 million of favorability over the last year in the bridge, split roughly evenly between energy, raw materials, and then productivity, kind of variable conversion cost, fixed cost savings. We price on value. So the pricing opportunities that we have, we're pricing the products based on the value that we're providing to customers. But just to take a step back. When we laid out our margin improvement targets, the 15% target, we assumed 150 basis points was coming from price-cost, 100 basis points was coming from fixed-cost leverage, and 50 basis points was coming from growth in high-margin products, the improved mix of the portfolio. And so I think in terms of what you're seeing in our margins so far, a lot of the margin improvement you've seen has come from the price-costs and come from the improved mix benefit. That's just to say there's still a lot of room to go on the fixed cost leverage piece as we move forward, on the piece that's about leveraging our efficient fixed cost base with incremental volume as we grow.
spk06: And David, I think to also answer part of your question is, yes, it's both. While we're seeing costs normalize or even capturing some cost declines, we're able to continue to price with strength. And so as you saw, we had some favorable costs, and I think net price was up $3 million. So there are pockets where in our base products we are increasing price because we're producing more value. The mix is coming from products that are higher price, but they're also higher value, higher margin, and then the cost pieces Eric just mentioned. So I think we're putting that chart up, Eric's first chart, to show you that where the margin is coming from is exactly where we told you it would come from a year and a half ago in our targets. And it's coming in that kind of ratio as well. And as we mentioned, we think there's more to go as these higher margin products continue to grow.
spk10: Okay, very good. Thanks for the color there. I did want to ask you a little bit more, if I could, about Fluorosorb. You know, earlier this year, the EPA did set content limits and timelines, which I considered very important milestones. And in your prepared remarks, you did touch on activity levels, but I am kind of curious about interactions and activity, you know, since the EPA has finalized, you know, the limits and the set of timelines. In other words, you know, is a certain subset of your potential end market moving more quickly to, you know, try to take advantage of the you know, improved, I don't know, improved technologies or, you know, has the level of engagement, in other words, is there an inflection point since the finalization of the EPA rules, or is it more just a steady increase, you know, just related to overall interactions? So, any inflection point from the customer side, customer engagement side? since the finalization of the EPA rules.
spk06: Sure. Let me, I'm going to pass over to Brett. I guess, David, you know, we've seen, we've seen, certainly seen a higher level of interest in activity. I want to call out, I know you're looking for the inflection point that says, when does this thing become, you know, really huge? I think we're on that, we're on that path. That path is going to take some time. But yes, we have seen some increased interest, increased activity. Let me have Brett take you through some of that.
spk03: programs running. We are seeing acceleration with local, state, and federal agencies. In fact, we've been invited by the U.S. EPA, and we're currently negotiating with them on a collective research and development agreement and hope to finalize that shortly. And there's utilities that are participating in this program which will evaluate PFAS removal from various medias, of course GAC, Ion Exchange, and our Fluorazor. In addition, we have European countries to remove PFAS from drinking water. And so based on our actual performance and piloting feedback, we're really confident in the Florisorb, and we expect this to continue to move forward. The inflection point, not sure when that will happen. We're seeing it in a slower process, prove out the product, and then over time we should see revenues start to climb.
spk10: And then just a brief follow-up on that, Brett, but, you know, you did touch on international interest in your prepared remarks or in Doug's prepared remarks. Is it your expectation that the content limits, you know, will be as stringent as the U.S., more stringent, less stringent? What is your sense of how Europe might proceed relative to how, or Europe or other geographies, how they might proceed relative to what the U.S. EPA has done?
spk03: Yeah, sure, sure. David, I'm not sure where it will end up, but I suspect it will be fairly similar to the U.S. We're seeing it in some responses in various.
spk06: Yeah, the US EPA guidelines are, you know, kind of the lowest detectable limit, you know, parts per trillion. So we'd expect that to be probably similar around the world. But, you know, nonetheless, our fluorosorb on its own is capable of removing PFAS to those levels. And so regardless of what the, you know, the guidelines are or the regulation is, we've got a great product to be able to take it down to non-detect or lowest detectable limits.
spk10: Okay, fine. Thank you for that. And last question I have for DJ, and it would be maybe to just pick apart the specialty additives performance just a little bit. So, you know, I think this is the last quarter of kind of apples to oranges with the BMI revenues included in the prior year, et cetera. But, you know, if I strip it out, there's quarters of maybe mid single-digit revenue growth. And I'm kind of scratching my head and I'm wondering, you know, is that growth, is that volume related from either start-ups or ramp-ups of new satellites? Is it pass-through of higher costs or is it actually pass-through of lower costs and the volume growth is higher? But just, you know, how would, you know, I'm thinking of the relationship between revenue growth on an underlying basis and profitability from PCC in the current environment or satellites in the current environment. Thanks.
spk05: Yeah, so thanks for the question, David. Just a minor setting of the baseline. BMI, there's another quarter where BMI was in our results. So the fourth quarter is when it was removed. But to the real meat behind your question, I would say that there's two things driving that. The first is the paper and packaging satellites that have come online. So this year we brought on one in China that was on top of a couple of others that came in last year. And then, as Doug had mentioned in his prepared remarks, we've got another three that are in construction. And so all of those are contributing to this. There's also one of the items that's also under construction that we announced earlier is a conversion to new yield. Any more volume or revenue per se would show an increase in margin as we convert to these more value-added products. So that's also helping in those regard, and I give that as an example. There are several other examples that would contribute to that. The other gem of performance that we've got, David, is our West Coast operation has had terrific volume. And so there's, it's, It's mostly through the construction industry, but it's also just in general great performance by that plant and some product modifications that we've made that meet the market needs. So that's also contributing to the volume growth as well. So one more quarter for the comparisons of BMI, steady growth coming from the paper and packaging satellites. Lucerne Valley continues to perform well. quite well. And the pipeline for the paper business is extremely strong. So I'm hoping that I'll be saying these same sorts of things as we talk in the quarters to come. I would say it's the The pipeline's got a couple of dozen opportunities in it, a mix of packaging and paper, probably 30-plus percent of those opportunities are packaging. Quite a few of them are new yield opportunities. And so the long-term looks pretty strong as well.
spk10: That's a great color. Thanks very much. Certainly.
spk06: Thank you, David.
spk04: We will take our next question from Mike Harrison with Seaport Research Partners.
spk08: Just one more quick one for me, kind of following up on David's question on the paper PCC business. I'm just curious, you have some contractual pricing mechanisms within that business. And there were several quarters, if we go back to a couple years ago, where costs were going up a lot faster than pricing. Your margins were being negatively impacted by that. At this point, have you recaptured those higher costs and you've got margins back at a normal level? Or are you at a point right now where costs are actually moving lower while prices are stable or still moving higher? such that you're getting some unusual strength in the margin performance of that paper PCC business?
spk02: Yeah, Mike, this is Eric. So, no, I would say we're back to kind of normal pass-through cadence. And, in fact, our pricing, with European energy rates coming down, our PCC, our paper and packaging pricing, came down a bit in the quarter, in the million-dollar range. So absent that, our overall pricing would have been a little higher. But it's now more of a normal kind of cadence for the price pass-through mechanisms for that business.
spk06: Yeah, a couple of dynamics, Mike, that have happened. Historically, Just to reiterate here that these prices and some of our older contracts are set on an annual basis or semi-annual basis. As they've renewed over the past several years, we've changed that to a tighter alignment with those costs, whether it's a quarter and sometimes a month. We saw some of that delay on the way up and we had some of that lag on the way down. But as Eric mentioned, we're largely through that. I think now there's maybe some regional ups and downs that are happening, but that's it's a normal cadence right now. And I think you're seeing what's really reflecting the normal margins of this business. That said, we have some new products coming out like New Yield. We've got some packaging and those can tend to generate higher margins. So we have some upside there in the future.
spk08: All right, very helpful. Thanks very much.
spk06: Thanks, Mike.
spk04: At this time, we do not have any further questions. I would like to turn the call back to Mr. Dietrich for any closing remarks.
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