7/29/2026

speaker
Chuck
Conference Operator

Good day and welcome to the second quarter 2026 Neighbors Industries Ltd. earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal conference specialists by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. And to withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. William Conroy, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

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William Conroy
Vice President, Investor Relations

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining Naver's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Today, we will follow our customary format with Tony Petrello, our Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and Miguel Rodriguez, our Chief Financial Officer, providing their perspectives on the quarter's results, along with insights into our markets and how we expect Navers to perform in these markets. In support of these remarks, a slide deck is available, both as a download within the webcast and in the investor relations section of Navers.com. Instructions for the replay of this call are posted on the website as well. With us today, in addition to Tony, Miguel and me, are other members of the senior management team. Since much of our commentary today will include our forward expectations They may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, as disclosed by neighbors from time to time in exchange commission. As a result of these factors, our actual results may vary materially from those indicated or implied by such forward-looking statements. During the call, we may discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, such as net debt, adjusted operating income, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted free cash flow. All references to EBITDA made by either Tony or Miguel during their presentations, whether qualified by the word adjusted or otherwise, mean adjusted EBITDA, as that term is defined on our website and in our earnings release. Unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, references to cash flow mean adjusted free cash flow, as that non-GAAP measure is defined in our earnings release. We have posted to the investor relations section of our website a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most recently comparable GAAP measures. With that, I will turn the call over to Tony to begin.

speaker
Tony Petrello
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Good morning. Thank you for joining us to review our second quarter results. Once again, we delivered strong operational execution and achieved several strategic milestones. Let's start with our financial results. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $222 million, well above our expectations. We exceeded the guidance we provided last quarter across all four reporting segments. Daily margins were especially strong in our lower 48 and international drilling businesses. This metric expanded sequentially in both operations, outperforming our guidance. Those gains reflect disciplined commercial execution, operational excellence, and outstanding work by our teams around the world. The quarter also included several significant milestones. First, our San Antonio Venture placed another new build rig into service its 16th. Sanit also returned one previously suspended rig to work. Two of Sanit's three suspended rigs are now back on contract. We also began drilling on Quaze Energy's Project Obsidian in Oregon. This project represents the first commercial application of super hot enhanced geothermal systems. The project is ultimately targeted to deliver gigawatt scale geothermal power. Additionally, we commissioned two of our highest specification PACEX Ultra Rigs for Catarists, one in South Texas and the other in East Texas. In our Rig Technologies business, CanRig introduced its first advanced, fully automated Titan Rig Floor Wrench into commercial service. Early field results have been exceptional. Titan combines superior torque accuracy, faster connection time, consistent make-up in one bite, and lower cost of ownership in a simpler machine. That is an unmatched combination in a rig floor wrench today. Finally, NDS's Rocket Drill String Oscillation Software secured an important competitive win. Rocket displaced an incumbent competitor on multiple third-party rigs. This win demonstrates Rocket's technology leadership and compelling value proposition. Next, I'll discuss our key international markets. I'll also outline why Neighbors is strongly positioned to gain share and grow earnings in each of them. Our international footprint focuses on key markets across the Middle East and Latin America. Saudi Arabia remains the cornerstone of this business. The Saudi land rig market continues to recover. Approximately 196 land rigs are currently operating in the Kingdom. That number is up by four compared to last quarter. is up by 35 from this market's recent low in the third quarter of 2025. The current count still stands 28 rigs below the peak in early 2024. Our standard joint venture currently operates 55 rigs in the kingdom. That number includes 16 rigs delivered through the new build program and two previously suspended rigs that have returned to service. With a 28% market share, Sanad is the largest land drilling contractor in Saudi Arabia. In addition to this scale, our fleet aligns well with the Kingdom's strategic priorities. Of the industry's land rigs running currently in the Kingdom, approximately two-thirds work in natural gas. Sanad's gas exposure is even greater, with nearly three-quarters in gas. This positions Sanad at the center of Saudi Aramco's investment in expanding natural gas production. Despite regional geopolitical tensions, SANA's operations have continued without interruption, and the growth ahead is substantial. 34 rigs remain to be delivered under the 50-rig new-build program. SANA has a clear runway for additional earnings growth over the next several years. Beyond Saudi Arabia, our Gulf business continues to perform exceptionally well. In both Kuwait and Oman, our rigs have operated continuously since the commencement of the conflict. In Kuwait, we have three deep gas exploration rigs running. They are on long-term contracts that commenced in 2025. The opportunity extends well beyond today's fleet. Kuwait continues investing in gas development. Current tender activity for additional high specification rigs supports our expectation that this market will expand. In Oman, we have four rigs running. They continue to perform well. Multiple tenders are now underway, which could create additional opportunities across several operators. Taken together, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Oman provide a strong growth corridor in our international portfolio. Our high specification fleet and long-standing customer relationships position us well to capture incremental work. On top of our rigged businesses in the region, NDS has established significant market positions in Saudi Arabia and the UAE. NDS holds the number one market share in casing running in both countries. These two geographies already rank as the second and third largest international contributors to NDS's EBITDA. Next, I'll shift over to Latin America, starting with Argentina. Argentina continues to be one of NABIR's most compelling international success stories. We are currently operating 13 rigs in the country. Another is earning revenue under an O&M contract. The client base is well diversified. Our fleet currently works for five different operators. With a 30% market share, Neighbors holds the largest position in the country. We are now mobilizing another rig to Argentina. That will bring the Neighbors total to 14 rigs, further extending our leadership in this market. Of our working fleet in Argentina, at the end of the quarter, five were formerly idle units in the lower 48. This demonstrates our ability to optimize assets globally under long-term contracts. We can generate attractive returns without incurring incremental new-build capital. The value of Argentina extends beyond drilling. Our drilling solutions business has become deeply embedded in the development of the Vaca Morta. The client base there has widely adopted the NDS technology portfolio. NDS accounts for approximately 46% of our EBITDA in Argentina in the first half of 2026. This marks the highest contribution of any country in our portfolio, illustrating our strategy of the rig as a platform in action. We combine premium drilling rigs with differentiated technology to optimize performance, increase margins, deepen customer relationships, and expand returns beyond the rig itself. We believe Argentina is one of the most attractive international growth markets. Our view is supported by world-class resources compelling project economics, and an increasingly stable operating environment. I'll wrap up the international market discussion with Venezuela. The outlook there has improved materially this year. Today's drilling activity remains limited, with less than a handful of rigs running. By comparison, in 2013, more than 85 rigs were operating. Given the large resource base in the country and the proximity to suitable refining capacity, Venezuela holds enormous potential. Neighbors has a long history in Venezuela. One of our predecessor companies, Laughlin Brothers, started there nearly 70 years ago. Today, we have five vital rigs in the country. We are well positioned should activity resume. Several large operators have expressed interest in restarting drilling programs. Under the right commercial conditions, Venezuela has the potential to become another meaningful contributor to our international business over time. To summarize the international environment, the broader picture is encouraging. Across our existing international footprint, we are tracking opportunities representing more than 40 incremental rigs. This number, spread among 10 countries, indicates a robust market for additional rigs. That opportunity set reflects the strength of our customer relationships, the quality of our rig fleet, and the increasing demand for high-performance drilling and technology solutions. As always, our approach remains disciplined and selective. We will pursue only those opportunities that meet our return thresholds and strengthen long-term shareholder value. I'll conclude my remarks on the international markets with the following. Our Arabian Gulf operations continue without interruption, demonstrating the resilience of our people, infrastructure and customer relationships. Saned continues to strengthen its leadership position in Saudi Arabia through new-build deliveries and returning suspended rigs to service. Argentina showcases the power of our integrated strategy, combining drilling and technology to deliver industry-leading returns. Venezuela presents an improving long-term opportunity where our fleet and technology positions us to capture additional upside. Next, let me turn to the U.S. Lower 48. The industry strengthened during the second quarter. From the end of the first quarter to the end of the second quarter, the Baker Hughes lower 48 land rig count increased by 31 rigs or 6%. This marks a notable upward turn after the modest decline in the first quarter. This compares to the most recent high of 568 set in February 2025. The Baker quarterly average rig count increased by 5 rigs or 1% in the second quarter. Looking a bit deeper at the lower 48 industry in the second quarter, the Baker end-to-end oil rig count increased by 8%, the gas rig count declined slightly. By region, the oil directed increase was concentrated in the Permian, the Austin Chalk, and the Granite Wash. And in terms of operator type, per Inverness, public operators held flat while private operator activity increased sequentially by 17%. To sum up, the growth in the lower 48 rig market during the quarter, it was oil, it was in Texas, and it was generally smaller operators. Our experience, however, looked different, and we believed better. We had a five-rig store count during the second quarter. These were a mix of oil, gas, and geothermal. Our activity was diversified across regions. Importantly, two of those contracts came from a supermajor. That distinction matters. larger operators tend to run longer duration drilling programs. They adopt advanced technologies earlier and provide greater earnings visibility than smaller independents. By quarter end, nearly 70% of our working lower 48 fleet served publicly traded operators. That customer mix continues to differentiate neighbors. Let me conclude with a few comments on this market's economics. The improving utilization environment is beginning to translate into stronger financial performance. During the quarter, our lower 48 daily revenue improved by more than $900 sequentially. At the same time, we added a term to our lower 48 contract backlog. By quarter end, more than 45% of our rigs in this market had at least six months of remaining duration. We expect to be at approximately 50% in the third quarter. Looking ahead, Our quarterly survey of large lower 48 operators indicates a constructive outlook. This group accounted for approximately 43% of this market's working rig count. They increased their rig count by 12 rigs during the second quarter. This increase was concentrated among four operators. A quarter ago, the survey indicated a 15-rig addition through the end of the year. Those were mainly in just two operators. In the second quarter, these two operators accounted for just a few of the group's increased rig count. Also, a quarter ago, we mentioned that the sentiment reflected in the survey favored incremental activity above the expected rig count. Some of this positive sentiment translated into actual rig additions during the quarter. Now, looking through the end of 2026, the survey reveals another 11 rigs expected to be added, concentrated in two operators, taken together Customer plans, improving utilization, and stronger commercial conditions all support our confidence in continued activity and pricing momentum through the balance of this year and into 2027. Next, I will make a few remarks about our technology and innovation. Technology remains one of the neighbor's most important competitive advantages. Our strategy is straightforward. Develop technologies that improve drilling performance, expand customer returns and increase the earnings power of every rig we operate. The second quarter again demonstrated that strategy at work. On neighbors own lower 48 rigs, NDS revenue increased sequentially by 11%, outpacing fleet growth. Growth was led by MPD and RigCloud, demonstrating continued customer adoption of higher value software and automation solutions. The same pattern is evident on third party rigs. While third-party average rig count increased only 1%, NDS revenue grew 12%. Strong demand for our software products produced this result. That spread illustrates an important point. Our technology business is growing because customers are adopting more of our solutions. Earlier, I mentioned the deployment of two PACE-X Ultra rigs. Those rigs entered service fully equipped with the NDS technology suite. including technology offerings, daily revenue meaningfully exceeds $40,000 per rig. That demonstrates the economic power of integrating premium rigs with premium technology and highlights our rig-as-a-platform strategy at work. It creates higher revenue, stronger margins, deeper customer relationships, and greater differentiation than either business could achieve independently. That remains one of NABRA's clearest competitive advantages. Now let me turn to Miguel to discuss our financial results in detail.

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Miguel Rodriguez
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Tony, and good morning, everyone. As Tony highlighted, we delivered a strong second quarter, exceeding the outlook we provided in April. This performance was broad-based with every operating segment ahead of expectations, led by lower 48 and international drilling. In international drilling, our Middle East operations continued without disruption and maintained a powerful tempo, despite conflict-related challenges in the region. The financial impact of the related cost pressure was broadly in line with our guidance, reflecting exceptionally strong execution by our teams and the resilience of our global supply chain. In our lower 48 operations, recount and margins exceeded our expectations, supported by improved pricing, longer contract duration, and deep relationships with high-quality customers, all while maintaining disciplined commercial execution. Collectively, these results underscore the strength of our portfolio. The Durability of Earnings Power and Our Ability to Convert Improved Activity into Stronger Financial Performance. Turning to the financials, I will review our second quarter's sequential performance and then provide our last look for the third quarter. Then I will conclude with updates on capital allocation and adjusted free cash flow. In the second quarter, consolidated revenue was $815 million, An increase of $31 million, or 4% sequentially, with growth across every operating segment. EBITDA reached $222 million, exceeding the upper end of our implied guidance. EBITDA margin expanded 107 basis points to 27.2%, with a very strong 54% fall-through. This performance reflects outstanding portfolio-wide execution. Turning to our segment results, international drilling revenue was $432 million, an increase of $13 million, or 3.1%. EBITDA increased to $131 million, up $9 million, or 7.6%. EBITDA margin expanded 127 basis points to 30.2%, with a robust 71% fall-through. The segment's EBITDA performance exceeded the target implied by our guidance for activity and daily margins. Average rig count increased from 92.6 to 93.4. Growth was driven by the deployment of two SANA rigs in Saudi Arabia, the 16 new built, and the resumption of eight previously suspended rigs, and the full quarter contribution from rigs that commenced operations in the first quarter. These additions were partially offset by the contract roll-off of two lower margin rigs, one in Algeria and one in India. Average daily rig margin increased to $17,534, up $654 sequentially and above the high end of our guidance range. The improvement reflects the benefit of recent rig deployments Strong Commercial and Operational Execution, and normal contract transitions across the portfolio. Moving on to U.S. drilling, revenue increased to $252 million, up $11 million, or 4.7% sequentially. EBITDA increased to $94 million, up $6 million, or 6.8%. EBITDA margin expanded 75 basis points to 37.3%, with a solid 53% fall through. These results exceeded our implied guidance driven by our performance in the lower 48, which resulted from stronger activity, improved pricing, and continued operating discipline, yielding a robust lower 48 EBITDA improvement of 11%. Our combined Alaska and offshore businesses perform in line with our expectations. Within U.S. drilling, lower 48 revenue increased to $207 million, up $15 million, or 7.8%, driven by activity growth and improved pricing. During the quarter, we added five rigs across all our major basins while maintaining commercial discipline. This growth reflects the strength of our client relationships, the demand of our highest specification fleet, and our operational execution. Average working rig count increased by 2.5 to 67.8, reaching the upper bound of our guidance range. We exited the second quarter with 71 rigs working and have since increased activity to 73 rigs. Average daily revenue increased by $902 to $33,555, Thank you very much. The mid $30,000 as we progress through the balance of this year and into 2027. Average daily margin increased by $607 to $13,784, approximately $500 higher than our guidance, driven by pricing gains in a tightening market and a strong operational performance. Turning to Alaska and US offshore, On a combined basis, revenue was $46 million, and EBITDA was $15 million, resulting in an EBITDA margin of 33.5%, in line with our guidance. Now to drilling solutions. NDS revenue increased by $4 million, or 4.2%, to $111 million. EBITDA increased by $1 million, up 3.5%, and others, resulting in an EBITDA margin of 36.2%. EBITDA was 3% above our guidance, primarily supported by higher penetration across both neighbors and third-party RICs in the lower 48, up by 11% and 12%, respectively. Internationally, continued growth in Saudi Arabia and Argentina was partially offset by lower asset sales in certain markets. NDS remains a strong cash generator, converting approximately 90% of EBITDA into free cash flow during the quarter, underscoring the strength of its capital light operating model. Now on to RIC Technologies. Revenue increased to $37 million, up 37.7%. will every day improve to $3.2 million, modestly exceeding our guidance. The improvement was driven by higher activity across the portfolio, led by stronger performance in the Middle East. Turning to our third quarter outlook, in international drilling, we expect average rig count to range between 94 and 96, supported by the deployment of the 17th Sanat new build rig in Saudi Arabia. The redeployment of an idle U.S. rig to Argentina and the commencement of a short-term geothermal contract in Indonesia. We expect to exit the third quarter with 96 rigs working. Average daily gross margin is expected to improve to a range of $18,100 to $18,400. This increase reflects the contribution from higher margin rig additions and continues the strong execution. despite persistent cost friction related to the Middle East conflict. Turning to U.S. drilling, we expect the average lower 48 working rig count to increase to approximately 73 and to exit the quarter with 74 rigs operating. Daily adjusted gross margin is expected to remain approximately flat with the second quarter at $13,800 as fewer near-term renewal opportunities Limit additional pricing gains. We expect U.S. industry activity to build progressively, supported by stable oil prices and an improving outlook for natural gas demand. At the same time, operators remain disciplined in allocating capital, reinforcing a selective performance-driven market that aligns well with neighbors' highest specification fleet and operating capabilities. As industry utilization continues to improve, the supply of readily deployable super-spec rigs is becoming increasingly constrained. Against that backdrop, we will continue to evaluate reactivation opportunities through a disciplined capital allocation framework, investing only where expected returns and contract duration justify the capital required. We are encouraged by the incremental opportunities we see through the remainder of the year. Turning to Alaska and US offshore combined, we expect EBITDA of approximately $11 million, reflecting lower activity in the offshore business. For drilling solutions, we expect EBITDA to increase by 5% sequentially to approximately $42 million, driven by continued technology adoption and activity growth. For RIC technologies, EBITDA is expected to improve to a range of $5 to $6 million. Overall, we expect our consolidated EBITDA margin to increase by approximately 100 basis points in the third quarter. Next, I will discuss our capital allocation and adjusted free cash flow. Second quarter capital expenditures total $158 million. essentially in line sequentially and below our guidance range, primarily due to timing of a few Senat New Build milestones. Total capex included $46 million associated with the in-kindled New Build program. Looking ahead to the third quarter, we expect capital expenditures of $245 to $255 million, including approximately $130 million for the Senat New Builds. For the full year, we now expect consolidated capital expenditures of $710 to $730 million, including $325 to $335 million for the CENAT new build program. The reduction in CENAT's new build outlook reflects the movement of certain construction milestones into early 2027. Beyond CENAT, improving activity in the lower 48 and certain international markets could create additional investment opportunities. We are very well positioned to participate selectively. Deploying capital only where the customer and opportunity are strategic and the commercial terms meet our return thresholds. We remain firmly committed to capital discipline and expect spending to remain within our updated guidance range. Turning to free cash flow. During the second quarter, NAWRS generated consolidated adjusted free cash flow of $12 million, modestly above our guidance. The mix differed from our expectations, reflecting the timing of SNAD new build milestones and slower collections in Mexico and the United States. SNAD generated positive free cash flow of $38 million, while the business outside SNAD used approximately $26 million. We view the collection's headwind as timing-related and expect this will normalize over the balance of the year. For the third quarter, we expect to use approximately $40 million of consolidated adjusted free cash flow, including approximately $65 million of cash consumption by Senate. The second quarter demonstrated the strength of our operating platform, with each business segment outperforming our expectations. We are encouraged by the momentum in the lower 48, the strong tempo in our international performance, and the continued growth across our technology businesses. Reflecting our strong first half performance and the continued business momentum, we now expect full year EBITDA of $920 to $930 million above both our prior expectations and the prior year level. We believe we are well positioned to exceed our full year adjusted free cash flow guidance and now expect to generate $20 to $30 million Thank you, Miguel. Let me leave you with three thoughts.

speaker
Tony Petrello
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

First, we exceeded our implied EBITDA guidance across every reporting segment. That reflects disciplined execution throughout the company. Second, our international franchise continues to strengthen. It is unique and second to none. Standard added another new build, returned additional suspended capacity to work and remains on track with its expansion program, creating a long runway for profitable growth. Third, the lower 48 continues to validate our strategy. Premium rigs, integrated technology, and operational excellence are expanding margins, increasing customer adoption, and improving the quality of our earnings. If there are two takeaways from today's discussion, they are neighbors is executing from a position of strength, and we deliver on our commitments. Our international business continues to grow. Our lower 48 franchise is capturing improving market conditions. Our technology portfolio is becoming an increasingly important driver of earnings and differentiation. And across the company, we're improving margins, strengthening cash generation, and raising the quality of the business. We're pursuing growth with discipline. We're allocating capital where returns justify investment. And we're leveraging our global platform and technology leadership to create durable value for our shareholders. We still see significant opportunity ahead and we're well positioned to capture it. Thank you for your time this morning. We'll now take your questions.

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Chuck
Conference Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2. And our first question for today will come from Joe Laish with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

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Joe Laish
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great, thanks. Good morning and thanks for taking my questions.

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Chuck
Conference Operator

Good morning, Joe.

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Joe Laish
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Good morning. So I wanted to start on the US lower 48. So you added five rigs during the quarter, currently sit at 73. Expect to exit 3Q at 74 rigs and then expand slightly from there. I know it's a bit early, but could you just talk to how you're thinking about the puts and takes on activity and pricing as we get into the fourth quarter as well as into 2027? And I think you talked about pricing reaching or exceeding the mid-$30,000 level. Thank you.

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Tony Petrello
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

I think that's exactly right. I think we see a market where there continues to be discipline by the major players, a lot of confidence in the market, but no one's getting carried away. and more of the activity up and down has been the privates returning to the market. But the good news is the super spec percentage is going up of utilization. And once it hits a certain number, as you all know, that's when pricing starts to accelerate. So we see as we go into the second half of the year, things are going to accelerate. And, you know, as you observed, yeah, that target number of the mid-30s is we see that as reaching that, toward the end of the year.

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Joe Laish
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks. That's helpful. And then shifting to the international side, so within Saudi, reactivations are progressing, and it seems like there's strong momentum for incremental rigs as well. Can you just talk to how discussions are going for the fifth tranche of new rigs and how that's progressing? Sure.

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Tony Petrello
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

I mean, Aramco is very committed to the program, and it's all been positive. As you can see from what we've done, notwithstanding all the turmoil over there, we've continued to execute on track. And we expect that the next charge will be discussed really shortly, actually, probably within the next quarter, and we'll have complete visibility on it. But we're confident that the program is going to continue. And by the way, looking at signing in general, I think it's all positive signs, obviously, The 196 rigs I mentioned, I think one of the things that you all have been interested in is the number of suspended rigs of the 40 rigs that still remain suspended from the downturn that occurred. Of the 40 rigs, I think during the next short period of time, you may see another 10 come back in the form of LSDK work, which also would help neighbors not just on the rig side, but also on the service side because we're a big player there. As you know, our NDS operation there on the case running services is number one player in Saudi Arabia, so we see that as additional upside there as well.

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Joe Laish
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. That's helpful. Thank you.

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Chuck
Conference Operator

The next question will come from Derek Podheiser with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

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Derek Podheiser
Analyst, Piper Sandler

Hey, good morning, everyone. Wanted to add to Joe's first question around just the outlook on the rig count, maybe just to hone in a little bit more on 2027, just assuming everything, the strip stays around 70 bucks. I mean, everything sounds super positive. I think your survey mentioned another 11 rigs through year end, but you also comment on potential tightness around the supply with super spec rigs. So Could you help maybe walk through that as far as how many rigs from a market perspective could potentially be added in 2027 and then what it means for a neighbor's rig count?

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Tony Petrello
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

2027 is a ways off still, so I don't want to get over my skis, but I think in terms of the super specs, the pitch here is that most of the operators, especially the large ones that are really focused on the longer laterals. They're all demanding higher spec rigs. And so existing rigs, I think, are going to be upgraded along those lines. And I could see, you know, maybe a half a dozen rigs occurring of upgrades over the next 12 months by operators asking for that kind of stuff. And I think what's going to happen is in terms of the ability of the market to do that, I think we're well positioned because obviously with CanRig, we make most of the equipment that we need. So I think we're well poised to do that. But in terms of a guess of next year's rig count, I'm not ready to talk about that. I think, you know, the market is disciplined right now and everything is falling into place. I think right now we're focused on continue utilization of the current rigs and seeing some tightening of the pricing as things move forward, particularly as operators demand more upgrades of existing equipment.

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Derek Podheiser
Analyst, Piper Sandler

Got it. Okay. That's really helpful, Tony. Thank you. I actually want to ask a question around geothermal. I mean, you guys have been a longtime investor in the geothermal startup space. I know Quaze is one of your first investments there, so great to hear that you're up drilling with them up in Oregon. Maybe just discuss some of the upside that you have with Quaze as they look to build out gigawatt scale Thank you for joining us today.

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Tony Petrello
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Five years ago, before geothermal was even topical by anybody, we identified it as the most underappreciated renewable out there because it's obviously baseload and renewable. And we've ventured down this path, and Quaze was one of the ones that really attracted us because of their differentiated technology. As you know, we don't like to be just a Me Too player, and we were intrigued by their millimeter technology, which came out of MIT. And it actually has, obviously, Defense Department kind of capabilities as well. Basically, the concept is with this millimeter technology, you can actually destroy rock rather than drill it down to supercritical temperatures, which is 500 C. When you get down to that depth, obviously, the typical conventional rigs can't get there. You know, things melt and other things happen. So that was it. And the concept of QUAISE is to make geothermal ubiquitous. Obviously, geothermal works where you have hot rock, but the number of places where you have the hot rock is not necessarily convenient everywhere. Whereas if you can actually get to super hot rock, then geothermal becomes ubiquitous, which has been our quest in terms of what we've been looking for in the geothermal space, and that's why it's so attractive. On this particular project right now, the first project, Quaze is, you know, they're still in development of the milliliter technology, but what they've now done is shifted to actually be a developer with existing technology as well. So the first project is actually going to use more of a conventional kind of approach but it's laying the basis and foundation for the millimeter testing. This millimeter equipment, by the way, needs integration in the rig, so it's a special gyrotron. And a gyrotron needs changes to a rig, it needs changes to the top drive, et cetera, which, again, Navers is unique about, and that's part of the plan here to make it commercial. Interestingly, Quaze, I think they've publicly announced that they have a contract with Google. The first install was 250 megawatts. The first well is for 50 megawatt installment. And so this is the beginning of a campaign. So we have we think it's a really good path. We think compared to the other company went public. If you look at the two side by side, I think Quaze does everything Furbo has, but it has the addition of of the the path to a ubiquitous geothermal market, which would be, you know, The next question will come from Keith Mackey with RBC. Please go ahead. Hey, thanks, and good morning.

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Keith Mackey
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

I know it's early for 2027, but just thinking about the capital plan for 2026 and how that might differ from 2027, can you maybe just start to pull apart some of the pieces of what might be more, what might be less? I'm thinking maybe SANAD should be lower next year just given The fifth tranche hasn't been awarded yet, but can you kind of help us walk through that, just in general, how we should be thinking about things for next year versus this year?

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Miguel Rodriguez
Chief Financial Officer

I mean, look, I think you're very correct, it's quite early, but I mean, if we start with a baseline of at least H2 times two in terms of EBITDA, meaning higher than a billion dollars. We need to think about a capex that it will not be lower than 2026, right? I mean, and starting with that, I will say that you have to consider that CENAT milestones probably will be in the range of the $330 million, $350 probably, considering five rigs building permanently, right? I mean, you will see probably five rigs deployed in 2027, but starting to build another five. So in general, I mean, I will suggest that the CAPEX will be probably in line with 2026, if not slightly higher. And number two, Not only the sustaining capital of our RIGS and the NDES portfolio, but certainly there are opportunities that we are exploring in the pipeline that are strategically not only for the customer, but also for the location and the potential scale going forward that we may need to add to our growth capex into 2027. So I will not expect really capex to be lower than 2026. I hope that helps. Yeah, that's helpful.

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Tony Petrello
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

The good news, just to make sure you caught it, was that the second half run rate, based on what we've told you today, is we see we're running at a billion dollar run rate for the second half of this year, which at least that's the good news.

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Miguel Rodriguez
Chief Financial Officer

And the encouraging part of this is that really the second half outlook, which already is 17% at least higher than the first half for 2026 is all based on contracted activity and planned rig deployments, right? So really the downside risk to that second half is extremely small, I would say.

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Keith Mackey
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah, I appreciate that. Just maybe on your U.S. contract book, So you're at 45% for at least six months, likely we're going to get to 50% Q3. Just talk about your approach to that. Certainly a higher percentage of contracted rigs this cycle versus last cycle. What do you think is the right number for neighbors and how do you kind of balance the decision to either have a higher portion of your rigs contracted versus a lower portion of your rigs contracted?

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Tony Petrello
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

There's no single answer because it really depends on the timing of what happens. When you do long-term contracts, it's always a function of where the market is at the current time and what the delta is. And so I wouldn't say there's an absolute number percentage-wise, but probably a 60% number is out there as a number that could make sense. I think the real critical question is who you decide to do a long-term contract with. That's more important to me and the content of the long-term contract. In other words, We want to put our rigs with people that are, number one, long-term players in the marketplace. Number two, are believers in technology that can actually use a more bundled approach to our services. And that's more of our focus in terms of entering into these long-term contracts as simply as opposed to just locking up a rig, for example, with somebody. And that really guides our logic here as we move forward. So that we think offers much more upside. And that gives us a roadmap. for additional things. And so if you look at some of our technology initiatives, for example, they all come from people that believe in our roadmap and that is synergistic, those kind of relationships with creating the technology and then developing it and rolling it out. Our example of our rig automation stuff is an example of that. We're right to say we have two super majors, each have an automated rig, and we just got an order for an additional two of those, and that's with an operator who we have long-term contracts with. that shows you the benefit of them. So it's not just the initial price, it's the content plus the relationship and plus the appetite for them to really use all the services that we have to offer.

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Keith Mackey
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. And if I could just follow up quickly on that, just how does performance-based metrics work into your contracting strategy? Is that a key part of the technology integration as well or what's your view on that these days?

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Tony Petrello
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Well, absolutely. In fact, as you know, the NDS portion is basically value pricing because it's all performance features. It's performance software. It's performance services. And so that portion of it is clearly, and the rigs as well, have key performance metrics where there's some sharing of upside. So uniformly in almost all the contracts, there's some element of that uniformly. and that's just a common thing today. The interesting thing is with NDS, while I mentioned NDS on this topic, the great thing about NDS is the delivery mechanism to do that is really, back to the former question here, of CapEx is really remarkable because NDS's conversion rate, I think in this quarter, was 90% free cash flow conversion rate on AtibaDA, which is really a remarkable number. So just bear that in mind too. Those services are really part and parcel of this value-driven proposition for the customers. So that shows we have something that's machined, it's effective, and it actually is really great in terms of capital efficiency on top of it all.

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Chuck
Conference Operator

All right. Thanks a lot. And this will conclude our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. William Conroy for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.

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William Conroy
Vice President, Investor Relations

I'm going to let Tony Petrello just make a few remarks and then I'll close the call out. Tony.

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Tony Petrello
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I would just like to say that I think, you know, Neighbors has the right portfolio of assets in the right markets with the right capabilities to take advantage of this unique opportunity. We're executing from a position of strength. The international environment is robust and our business is well positioned. Lower 48 is capturing better market conditions and technology is becoming a larger driver of earnings differentiation. We're fundamentally improving the quality of our business and poising ourselves for great growth in the future, so we see a lot of significant opportunity ahead. Thanks for all your consideration today. Thank you.

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William Conroy
Vice President, Investor Relations

Chuck, with that, we'll end the call here. If there are any follow-up questions, please contact us. Thanks again.

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Chuck
Conference Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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