Noble Corporation

the most directly comparable gap measure and associated reconciliation in our earnings report issued yesterday and filed with the SEC. Now I'll turn the call over to Robert Eisler, President and CEO of Noble.

Welcome everyone and thank you for joining us on today's call. I'll begin with highlights of our second quarter results and recent contract awards, then provide some perspectives on the market before turning the call over to Richard to discuss the financials. Lastly, before we go to Q&A, I'll wrap up with a brief update on our pending acquisition of Diamond, which we are incredibly excited about. Starting with the Q2 results, we had a solid quarter with adjusted EBITDA of $271 million, up nearly 50% compared to $183 million in Q1, with a sequential improvement driven by several key contract startups, including the Noble Regina Allen commencing its contract in Argentina in early May and the Noble Discoverer starting up in Colombia in mid-June. Subsequent to quarter in, the Noble Fay Cossack has commenced its contract in Brazil in mid-July. Each of these three rigs entailed significant contract preparation scopes and I'd like to commend our projects teams on executing these crucial shipyard programs very well. In light of these de-risked contract startups, we are narrowing our EBITDA guidance for this year to a tighter range of $950 million to $1 billion. In June, our board of directors announced a 25% dividend increase to 50 cents per share for the third quarter of 2024. This next distribution in September will bring cumulative total capital return to shareholders since our Q4 2022 merger to $470 million and also establishes Noble as the highest dividend payer across all U.S. listed oil field services. And while this is a good start, we are confident that the free cash flow potential of our business in the years ahead looks demonstrably higher and we will remain committed to returning essentially all of our free cash flow via dividends and share buybacks as this cash flow reflection develops. As reflected in our updated fleet status report published last night adjacent to our earnings release, our total backlog stands at $4.2 billion compared to $4.4 billion last quarter. I would remind you that since our backlog does have a high concentration to the long-term contracts in Guyana and Norway that do not replenish regularly, this tends to create some backlogs. In the Gulf of Mexico, the Noble Stanley LaFosse was extended by Murphy for five additional wells spanning approximately one year from February 2025 through February 2026 for a total contract value of $177 million. On the jack-up side, the Noble Resolve has picked up two additional contracts. First, a 45-day well with Central European Petroleum Offshore Poland followed by a 13-well P&A scope in Spain commencing in Q2 2025 with an estimated duration of about six months. Additionally, the Noble Resilient picked up a short-term intervention job with Harbor in the North Sea that has served as a helpful gap filler this summer between the rig's other existing programs. And most recently, the Noble Innovator has been extended by BP in the UK North Sea from May through December 2025 via priced options at $155,000 per day. Collectively, these contract fixtures represent approximately $275 million in total contract value, including mobilization payments. Now I'd like to turn to a broader outlook with our semi-annual review of current and expected deepwater activity levels across the key geographic segments. The contracted rig count of UDW floaters with 7,500 feet or greater water depth ratings currently stands at 105 rigs, up one from last quarter and representing 94% utilization of the marketed fleet, excluding sideline capacity. This level has been fairly constant over the past year as industry expectations for the next leg higher in activity have been constrained somewhat, both by tight rig capacity as well as by lengthening cycle times for certain long-term tenders to convert into contract awards. However, despite flatter activity recently, the forward indicators for further growth through the cycle remain firmly intact. This includes a strong pipeline of FIDs and extremely robust subsea orders, as well as customer tenders and direct dialogue regarding future drilling plans. The historically high level of open demand that we've cited over the past couple of quarters has recently increased further to over 110 rig years now. That's not surprising at all given the relatively low proportion of tenders that have converted to contract fixtures recently. We recognize that there's a growing need and curiosity about what's causing this slower pace of awards of late. And while there's not a single uniform answer, we believe that there are a few contributing factors at play with various parts of the customer base, including first, capital discipline and stakeholder alignment complexities that are causing contracts to take longer to execute, including partner approvals, permits, etc. Second, field development supply chain pinch points resulting from the sharp rise in global project backlogs over the past few years. And third, short-term after effects resulting from upstream consolidation transactions, which has definitely been a factor at play in the Gulf of Mexico recently. Although there is generally no indication or expectation of drilling programs being structurally deferred, the recent slower cadence of rig contract awards does factor into the persisting utilization headwind confronting the sixth gen and lower end segment of the market, which appears likely to drag into 2025, more than we would have assumed earlier this year. Another way to frame this dynamic is to look at how industry backlog has progressed over the past few years. Whether measuring backlog by either contract link or in terms of absolute dollars, the industry UDW fleet witnessed a 40 to 50% backlog expansion between early 2022 and the first half of 2023. Since then, however, total backlog for the industry deep water fleet has been generally flat, and this looks likely to continue into 2025. While this slowdown has lasted longer than we had expected, all of the leading indicators for increased activity remain highly compelling. And taking all of this into consideration, we expect the next move higher in industry backlog is likely to come into view sometime next year. With that, let me now turn to the bottoms-up market outlook. The Golden Triangle of South America, Gulf of Mexico, and West Africa comprises over 75% global UDW market, led foremost by Brazil, which has now increased to 34 rigs up from 27 a year ago, with Petrobras comprising 30 of the 34 UDW rigs in Brazil. Elsewhere in South America, Guyana is at 5 rigs, Colombia at 1, and Suriname is currently at 0. Looking out to 2026, this region appears capable of expanding from 40 rigs currently to up to 45, based on visible customer needs. Next, in the Gulf of Mexico, UDW demand currently stands at 24 and has been fairly stable in the 23 to 25 unit range over the past year. The U.S. Gulf of Mexico has actually been steady to up slightly since early 2023, while the Mexican side has fallen off from three to four rigs of normalized demand to just one unit currently. The inconsistency of activity in Mexico has been one of the contributing downside factors to the region's market balances recently. The U.S. Gulf, despite digesting a short-term impact from EMP consolidation, has been steady, as predicted, with current activity of 23 deepwater rigs. There remains a relatively thin spot market over the next few months for the five or so units with near-term availability. However, customer demand indicates that the combined U.S. and Mexican Gulf of Mexico should remain approximately flat compared to current levels. West Africa currently has 18 contracted UDW rigs, down slightly from 19 to 20 last year. Angola leads the region with seven rigs, with other activity spread broadly across various other countries. Notably, Namibia is currently at a lull with just one active rig compared to three to four rigs last year. There is a clear line of sight to Namibia maturing into at least a three to five rig market structurally by 2026, as development plans get underway. Coupled with the likely commencement of gas development in Mozambique, the combined West and East Africa market could drive incremental UDW rig demand of five or more units by 2026. The Mediterranean and Black Sea region currently support eight units of demand, which we expect to be flat to down one unit over the next one to two years. The Far East market, including India and Australia, represents seven units of UDW demand currently, and Indonesia is expected to drive an incremental demand for a couple more rigs starting from late 2025 or 2026. And then finally, we expect the harsh environment markets of Norway, UK, and Canada to remain steady plus or minus. Tying all of this together, the market does feel more flat or up only slightly, at least through the first half of 2025. So we are maintaining a patient and disciplined approach in the meantime. We also continue to pursue intervention work with the globe charters, which we are hopeful will begin to show some initial wins fairly soon, albeit with minimal contribution before late 2024 or early 2025. Against this demand backdrop, we expect day to remain in the high 400,000 to low 500,000 range for tier one drill ships over the near term, excluding stacked rigs bidding into multi-year programs at customary discounts. And 6G rates will likely soften slightly until the slack comes out of the lower end of the market. However, assuming the next leg up in demand materializes as envisioned by 2026, a further increase in day rates is very probable. So with that, I'll pause here and pass it to Richard to cover the financial highlights.

Thank you, Robert, and good morning or good afternoon, all. In my remarks today, I will briefly review the highlights of our second quarter and then touch on the outlook for the remainder of the year. Contract drilling services revenue for the second quarter totaled $261 million, up 8% from $612 million in the first quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $271 million in Q2, up from $183 million in Q1. Our adjusted EBITDA margin on total revenue improved to 39% in Q2. Cash flow from operations was $107 million, capital expenditures were $133 million, and free cash flow was negative $26 million. The sequential improvement in the financial results was driven by stronger utilization across the fleet, including contract startups for the Noble Discoverer, Noble Resilient, and Noble Regina Allen, as well as the abatement of contract preparation and startup costs that burdened contract drilling expense more heavily in the quarter. Our 16 marketed floaters were 78% utilized in Q2, up from 76% in the first quarter, and our 13 marketed jackups were utilized 77% in the second quarter, up from 67% in the first quarter. Average earned day rates in Q2 were $436,000 per day for floaters and $156,000 per day for the first quarter. As summarized on page 5 of the earnings presentation slides, our total backlog as of July 31st stands at $4.2 billion, which includes $1.2 billion that is scheduled for revenue conversion in the second half of this year, and $1.7 billion that is scheduled for 2025. As a reminder, this backlog does not include reimbursable revenue or revenue from ancillary services. Referring to page 9 of the earnings slides, we are updating our full year 2024 guidance as follows. Firstly, total revenue increases and narrows to a range of $2.65 billion to $2.75 billion. The slight increase in the range is driven by higher reimbursable revenue and revenue from ancillary services. Secondly, adjusted EBITDA narrows to a range of between $950 million and $1 billion. The narrowing of the adjusted EBITDA range around our previous midpoint was driven by strong operational performance in Q2 offset by lingering white space in the second half for several floaters, as well as a couple of weeks of additional acceptance testing proceeding the noble FACOZAC contract commencement in mid-July. Thirdly, we are maintaining our guidance range of $400 million to $440 million for capital additions, excluding Rebillable CapEx. We expect Rebillable CapEx to be approximately $30 million in 2024, with $17 million spent in the first half of the year. Looking forward to the third quarter, EBITDA is currently tracking slightly lower versus Q2, with sequential revenue tailwinds from the noble FACOZAC and a few other rigs offset by greater anticipated white space on the globe trotters and the noble Voyager. I would like to now touch briefly on our free cash flow profile. As we have previously stated, this year's free cash flow is expected to be heavily second half weighted, driven by higher CapEx in the first half and the key contract startups previously mentioned. Q2 was additionally impacted by the working capital impact associated with the noble Regina Allen incident in late 2022. Due to the timing of some expected insurance proceeds potentially pushing into 2025, full year 2024 cash flow in the aggregate could be negatively impacted by around $50 million. With the Q2 cash flow deficit, we did draw down $35 million on the revolver in June. We expect this to be repaid in the near future. We believe that we have now reached an inflection of free cash flow. We continue to expect full year free cash flow to be up very slightly year on year and exiting at a very healthy run rate in the second half. As we look towards 2025, we remain constructive on the market outlook. However, we do recognize that until we see a pickup in the pace of contract awards to where total floater rig demand increases more materially, we are likely to see lower utilization for our uncontracted 6G rigs well into 2025. As it relates to capital allocation and as Robert has mentioned, with the material step up in free cash flow expected in the second half of the year, we expect to get back into the market and start executing again on our share repurchase program as we look to return essentially all of our free cash flow to shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Robert.

Thank you, Richard. Before we turn to Q&A, I'd just like to provide a quick update on the Diamond Transaction. As disclosed last week, the HSR waiting period has expired and the definitive proxy has been filed. Completion of the transaction is subject to the satisfaction of the remaining customary closing conditions, including Diamond's shareholder vote, which is scheduled for August 27, and regulatory clearance in Australia. We are maintaining our expectation for closing by Q1 2025, although there are potential paths for closing this year. Not only are we incredibly excited about this highly complimentary and a creative combination, but also it has been equally encouraging to see the market's positive response to the transaction. As the leading consolidator in the industry, we believe Noble has demonstrated a clear and powerful value proposition to customers, employees, and shareholders by leveraging the scale and delivering seamless integration results for all stakeholders. I'm extremely proud and appreciative that our men and women onshore and offshore have established such a strong track record, not only as drillers, but also as highly effective innovators and integrators. This has been a huge X factor in what we're trying to achieve and become, and I'm quite confident that bringing in Diamond's world-class assets and people will provide another opportunity for us to shine together. With that, operator, we're now ready to turn the call to Q&A.

At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star and then the number one on the telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Scott Gruber with Citi. Your line is open.

Yes, good morning and in solid order. Thanks, Scott. I want to start on the macro and I appreciate all the color around this pause. We're going to start with the first question. We're seeing, I guess I want to ask about the backdrop here. Are we really seeing a transition from the infrastructure-driven development focus post pandemic to a better balance between Greenfield and tie back? It just strikes me that success in new frontiers such as Namibia is great for the industry, but does that contribute to a kind of temporary slowdown in contracting as operators process new prospects and think about resetting their future workflows?

Yeah, it's a great question. I think it's kind of central to how we think about the medium term. There are some data that suggest that Greenfield is ticking up. And I'll say in our own fleet drilling today, we're seeing effectively the same percentage of fleet deployed around exploration as we have for the past couple of years. But then there's some third party data out there that as I mentioned suggests that Greenfield is improving here. Certainly, and of course you can define it, I guess a little bit differently, but certainly the FID, the uptick in FIDs that we see and that we've been predicting will lead to a higher use of drillships worldwide is driven by Greenfield. And so we're pretty bullish about where this is headed here late 25, 26.

I got it. And then just turning to the globe trotters, you mentioned finding intervention work for them. Does that mean you're likely to continue to focus on the Gulf of Mexico for those raids or would you be willing to move those rigs out even if you had to pay for it? And just the kind of overall thoughts on how consistent the intervention work could be for those assets here over the next year or so?

No, I think those rigs could work anywhere. We've actually pursued some intervention work well outside of the US Gulf on a number of occasions. I would say that I guess the good news is that the lead time to booking intervention work is typically a lot shorter than drilling work. But I'd also say that that's probably more the case in the US where things can move more quickly and there's obviously all the infrastructure and everything right there than elsewhere in the world where I'd say on average, even for intervention work, there's probably a slightly longer contracting lead time elsewhere. But we're bidding it all over and have some interesting opportunities in places outside of the US.

Great. I appreciate it. I'll turn it back. Thanks. Thanks, Scott.

Your next question comes from the line of Greg Lewis. Your line is open.

Yeah, thank you and good morning everybody and thanks for taking my question. Robert, I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about what we're seeing in the ultra deep water market. If you look at pictures, it looks like really where we're seeing the uplift in pricing is more in 2026 as opposed to rigs being contracted for work starting in the front of 2025. Realizing in your prepared remarks, you mentioned Namibia and Mozambique. Is that really what you think is driving that or could there be a few other things, i.e. the yards that are still looking for their maiden contracts being gobbled up by then or just hoping you could elaborate more on your thoughts around why we're seeing those higher scenes, I guess, 12 to 18 months out?

Yeah, well, I guess a couple of thoughts. First of all, I think a lot of people, I wouldn't say everyone, but I think a whole lot of people see continuing tightness, particularly in the 7G market. There's an expectation that even with some of these shipyard rigs coming in that the market's going to be tight. We've used the word balanced a bunch in the past, which kind of stand by, but balanced for sure gives rise to increasing day rates like we've seen for the past two years now. So I think that's part of it. We, as we said in the remarks, the next year or so is flatish. And so when you think through that, there's perhaps a tendency to provide slight discount for near-term work, but I don't think that that's a major dynamic right now, frankly, among the highest end rigs. I think generally people see this, all these various forward indicators that we've described a few different times and are quite confident as we are that demand is going to materialize out of that.

Okay, great. And then I was hoping maybe you could provide some thoughts around the Voyager, that contract that wrapped up in Suriname. You've been calling out, I guess, the bifurcation in the 6G market versus the 7G market for at least the last few quarters. That's a seventh-gen dual POP rig. So any kind of thoughts around potential opportunities for that as we kind of look out over the next, I don't know, six to 12 months?

Yeah, I'll let Blake give some color on kind of where and when we're seeing opportunities. But there's always a couple of 7G rigs available, and Voyager happens to be right now, and we've got a bunch of conversations behind it.

Yeah, sure. Thanks, Greg. This is Blake. So the Voyager did conclude its contract now. It'll be performing SPS scope for the next couple of months and then be available later in the year. We're bidding it all over the world, really. Some good encouraging customer conversation. I think when we look at the likelihood of picking up the next contract, those conversations turning into firm awards, we're looking more like first half of next year.

Super helpful. Thank you for the answers.

Your next caller comes from the line of Kurt Hollead with the Benchmark Company. Your line is open.

Good morning, everybody. Good

morning, Kurt.

Hey, I always appreciate the insights and the color on the market dynamic. So if I were to broadly summarize your summary, right, it looks like you guys are looking for potentially, you know, range of 10 rigs of incremental demand once we get out into the second half of 25 and into 2026, with half of that effectively coming from Brazil, the other half from Africa. I just wanted to make sure that I'm not misinterpreting anything that you said or misinterpreting any of your numbers that you put forth so far.

No, that's it. I mean, I would, I guess I would qualify that we're probably five to 10 total. You've just, you've repeated our description of where the 10 come from. If you get a few rolling off in the meantime, maybe the total incremental comes down a little bit from there. But, you know, probably a little too early to tell. But that's OK.

And then, you know, maybe, you know, I know you guys, you know, haven't, haven't stepped out and said anything about 2025 standalone yet. And obviously, that will all change once you get diamond under your belt. But I would, I would just venture to say that given what you've kind of mapped out right now, the second half progression on EBITDA and free cash flow probably spills over into the Is that a fair way to look at things right now?

Yeah, I think that's a very good way to think about 2025. Obviously, we're kind of seeing fladdish EBITDA here in the second half of the year. You know, one element as it relates to free cash flow, I do want to point out is that we do expect, you know, CapEx next year to come down nicely. Right. So we've always said that 23 and 24 was kind of peak CapEx. And so as you think about free cash flow in the context of 2025, that number is expected to be down nicely versus 24.

Okay, that's great. Right. Well, turn it over. Thank you guys. Thanks, Kurt.

Your next question comes from the line of Eddie Kim with Barclays. Your line is open.

Hi, good morning. Just wanted to ask on your revised EBITDA guidance here for the full year, you raised the low end of the guide from 925 million to 950. You previously talked about, the low end of the guide being a level at which you could end up if you didn't secure more work or incremental work for your idle rig. So just curious if that is still a fair assumption today. It looks like you have three idle floaters today in the developer Globetrotter 2 and now the Voyager. Does that low end of the guide assume no incremental work for these rigs this year? How should we be thinking about that?

Yeah, Eddie, it's a very good question. I think that's a good way to think about it. We don't need to win any more work to get to the low end. And look, it's a somewhat tight range now. And I think there's a potential or real potential to get to the midpoint of the range without new work as well.

I got it. Thank you. All clear. Just my follow up on the Meltem. You've been very disciplined with reactivating this rig. Just given the conversations you're having, is it likely we'll see a contract announcement for that rig before kind of mid-year next year or given your flat kind of demand outlook in the near term? Could the timing of that contract announcement on that rig maybe go beyond that timeframe?

Yeah, look, I think it's always hard to predict on something that's could be way off. But I would weight it towards there not being a prediction before mid-year next year. I think it's more likely that an announcement would come after mid-year next year than before. But there's a lot in the pipeline right now as we've described. Our customers are in budget season right now. And typically you see a lot of tenders and negotiations that come out of that. And so we're still kind of wondering as well when we're going to see this pipeline materialize. It could be earlier than we kind of described in the call. And of course, like this year, maybe it pushes slightly later than we'd like. But yeah, if I have to answer the question, I'm going to say it's not in the first half of next year.

Got it. Great. Thanks for the call.

Your next question comes from the line of Doug Becker with Capital One. Your line is open.

You there, Doug?

Robert, you alluded to supply chain pinch points as one of the reasons for the slower pace of awards. I was hoping you'd expand on that. Just where exactly are you seeing the bottlenecks that's causing this?

Yeah, I would say that that is a more general statement about supply chain kind of coming out of a pretty substantial ramp in activity. And it probably manifests at different points for different customers in different regions. You know, I think as most people know, coming out of this extended downturn, inventories are very low and inventory management has been very efficient. And so I think that's and so there are not there is not as much to just pull from shelves. And likewise, it kind of further down the supply chain, which doesn't affect us, but affects our customers when you get into vessels, FPSOs more specifically, there's a big backup in the shipyards. And so I think I think in in in some instances, it may be an FPSO. In another instance, it may be a wellhead and another one, probably slightly less likely, but somewhere else it may be casing that if nothing else is making it harder to pull programs earlier. So you're seeing this kind of gentle slide to the right that we've witnessed over the last year.

It's good context. And then you pointed out that the HSR has expired, and you're waiting on some new regulations. So what's the status with European regulators? Are there any European regulatory milestones you're waiting for?

You know, the only the the only remaining regulator is Australia. And I'll add the color that was anticipated. And that really drove our original timeline, and how we've described the first quarter, maybe slightly earlier when when we announced this. So really, nothing's changed on the total timeline because of because of that piece. But yeah.

Got it. Thank you.

Thanks.

Your next question comes from the line of Josh James with Daniel Energy Partners. Your line is open.

Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to switch a little bit and maybe get your global perspective on the jacket market you talked about in your prepared remarks. Sort of Northern European market is characterized by improving demand divisibility in Norway in 25 and more cautious near term outlook in the North Sea from some policy and permitting uncertainty in the UK. Could you expand on both of those thoughts and then maybe just give us a walk through the global jacket market? I think that would be helpful.

Sure. Yeah, I can start and then Blake jump in. So the UK has a long way to go. We've evaluated the elections there and the implications arising from that. Some changes have already been made. I think that market, all things considered, has actually performed pretty well. I think that the changes that have come politically there already since labor took over were well understood and anticipated. And so, while obviously not helpful for our business, I think we're right now not seeing any substantial negative change from what we've seen so far. I would remind that we do think that carbon capture could provide some helpful lift in that market, you know, maybe next year, maybe the year after, but generally in the near to medium term going forward. In Norway, it's been basically flat and we think it stays flat for a little while longer, perhaps with an additional unit of demand next year and then perhaps a leg up from there. More globally, there's obviously a little bit of negative news out of Saudi recently. We are, as you know, not in the mix there, so not, you know, close to news flow, but I would say that the global jacket market is quite strong and it's stayed steady. It moved healthily straight through the more significant Saudi announcement from a few months ago and we've seen a number of those rigs be redeployed elsewhere in the globe already. And so, I think that market is generally pretty consistently strong.

And then maybe you could just talk operationally on the cost side. I think your commentary looking into the first half of 2025 was helpful on the deep water side, but over this period of sort of softer utilization for some of the deep water units in your fleet that are available, could you talk about how you're managing them on the cost side today? Maybe that would just be helpful things you're doing in terms of trying to maximize cash flow while you have sort of this lull in your contracting activity for some of those assets.

Yeah, it's a good question. We are managing costs very closely. You heard Richard's answer with some color around our remaining guidance here for 2024 and how a lot of that is within our control on the cost side. We've reduced costs where we have availability on some of the rigs and obviously we're, you know, that's something that we have to do when we have availability that, you know, that looks like it's going to stretch out more than just a short gap. So, I think the organization has done a really, really good job. It's been a focus for us this year and, you know, our men and women that are in leadership positions on the rigs have a lot of influence on our handrail numbers. They're focused and they've done really a great job of managing their business rig by rig here this year. So, I'm very proud of what everyone's done.

Okay, thanks.

Your next question comes from the line of David Smith with Pickering Energy Partners. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning and thank you for my questions.

Morning.

So, I think we have previously started new build drill ships that are going to be impressed into the market, but I wanted to ask if you've seen any signs of increased competition from some of the 6th Gen CIMEs that have been sidelined for a while. I think there were some that previously worked in Mexico and there are some relatively young Chinese CIMEs and Chinese, you know, new builds and whether that contributes to the comments about potential greater diversification or if you're really just talking about pricing softness for the active 6th Gen CIMEs facing potential downtime.

Yeah, look, it kind of all runs together or in sync, I guess. We think on the 6th Gen side, you know, if you just look at rigs rolling off contract for the end of the year, as you described, we've got some active rigs that have rolled off or are rolling off and then you've got some others that have been off a little longer. So, utilization probably dips before it returns to flat here in the very near term on the 6th Gen side. And then, as I mentioned earlier, you know, some of those rigs can go into the shorter lead time type programs. And so, I think there's a chance of a pretty quick recovery as customers come out of budget season, but we're just going to have to wait and see, you know, we just don't really know right now. But it all goes in, in my opinion, it all goes into the kind of a total marketed utilization that affects, you know, bidding behavior. I don't know.

Yeah, the only other comment I would add to that is when you look at our benign semis, we compete at the very top end of the market. So, the drilling efficiencies on our D-class rigs rival drill ships. And so, you see we compete well with operators that are looking at a really total cost of ownership model and factor in those efficiencies. Where you see the lower spec semis compete is for really rate focused operators, largely in regional basins.

I appreciate that. And that's just a real quick follow up, following up on Josh's question, specifically the improving visibility in Norway for 25. My recollection is Norway demand for tend to have longer visibility, often longer term contracts. So, I was curious if that,

you know,

visibility improvement for 25 maybe includes some term work that could help from a visibility past 25.

I mean, yeah, there's the potential for a little bit of term work. And there is the potential for a little bit of shorter term work there from what we know about. And I guess I would kind of say that a true step up with solid term work, probably more of a 26 thing than a 25 thing.

Great. Thanks a lot. Thank you very much.

And your next question comes from Noel Parks with Tui Brothers. Your line is open.

Hi, good morning. You know, you talked a good bit about sort of what the customers are thinking. And I was wondering around the capital discipline aspect of their pace of decision making, do you get more an issue of sort of notification or disclosure of their plans that is what's going on or more actual hesitation, you know, internally even commit to what they might do going forward?

Yeah, it's, I guess it's a combination of things. One, just capital discipline, as everybody knows, is remains paramount for everyone, whether you're whether it's on the MP side or on the services side. And so I think people are making very conservative investment decisions that has an obvious effect. But another place that perhaps this plays out is that in that kind of aura of conservatism, you have in any given investment decision, almost always you have various different partners that perhaps have various different capital requirements or views or thresholds. And so we're seeing a number of instances where you're getting kind of two out of three partners that would like to do something or one out of three or something that has either disrupted a project or maybe just moved it in more instances, just pushed it to the right a little bit until waiting on new information or waiting on whatever it may be. But we are seeing that as somewhat of a dynamic. I also think as you know, here our business is often kind of seasonal around season. We're all kind of waiting to see what gets approved. But I think it plays out in that sense as well where, you know, in a world that's extremely disciplined, maybe it's less obvious what's going to get approved and not as they go through their own budgeting processes.

Great, thanks. And just sort of a related question. You mentioned where there's white space. You know, of course, that's that's visible to everyone. And I guess I'm thinking from the standpoint of, you know, who's on the far end of the white space. Do you have any sense that customers that may be kind of lost there, I shouldn't say lost, but are a little bit less worried about schedule slippage? Because I mean, the potential always exists that you can fill the space, right? And that could have some ripple effects. Or are the customers just like, you know, we want the price we want that, you know, that's kind of our main concern. And, you know, we'll just roll with whatever happens as far as availability.

Yeah, I think the mood right now, I mean, everybody sees availability this year. And everybody knows that there's a few rigs that come in from the sideline, these so called stranded shipyard rigs. I think the average kind of belief is that there's going to be some availability in 25. And that gets a lot tighter at the end of 25 and going into 26. And so you see that play out with some people who are probably more risk averse and more concerned about what's coming there. And then some others that have watched the last few years and said, well, I've generally been able to get a rig and, you know, I, you know, wouldn't know how to describe it as balanced. And, you know, I may perhaps someone sees it as balanced as well and is in its comfortable waiting. But I think I think you see kind of a variety of different beliefs and approaches.

Great, thanks a lot. Thanks.

And there are no further questions at this time. Mr. MacPherson, I will turn the call back over to you for closing remarks.

Great. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. And we'll look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Goodbye.

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.