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5/6/2025
Cool Land webcast will begin in approximately one minute's time. Thank you for your patience. Good morning or good afternoon or welcome to the Ingevity First Quarter 2025 Learning School and webcast. My name is Adam and I'll be your operator today. If you'd like to ask a question during the Q&A portion of today's call you may do so by pressing star followed by one on your telephone keypad. I will now hand the floor to John Nijpaard but to begin, so John please go ahead when you're ready.
Thank you Adam. Good morning and welcome to Ingevity's First Quarter 2025 earnings call. Earlier this morning we posted a presentation on our investor site that you can use to follow today's discussion. It can be found on .ingevity.com under events and presentations. Also throughout this call we may refer to non-GAAP financial measures which are intended to supplement not substitute for comparable GAAP measures. Definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release and are also in our most recent form 10k. We may also make forward-looking statements regarding future events and future financial performance of the company during this call and we caution you that these statements are just projections and actual results or events may differ materially from those projections as further described in our earnings release. Our agenda is on slide three. Our speakers today are David Lee our CEO and Mary Dean Hall our CFO. Representing our businesses today and available for questions and comments are Rich White, president of performance chemicals, Michael Shukoff president of advanced polymer technologies, and Jonathan MacGyver VP of global commercial for performance materials. They will provide introductory comments. Mary will follow with a review of our consolidated financial performance and the business segment results for the first quarter. Dave will then provide closing comments and discuss 2025 guidance. With that over to you Dave.
Thanks John and good morning everyone. The company delivered a strong first quarter reflecting the priorities we've outlined in previous earnings calls including driving increased profitability generating strong free cash flow and improving leverage. Our results demonstrate meaningful progress on those commitments including our fourth consecutive quarter of -over-year margin expansion. This quarter was an example of the best in class profitability and jevity is capable of and I believe we're just getting started. I'd also like to take a moment to share how excited I am to be here today. As some of you know I've spent my career in the specialty chemicals and materials industry and was most recently the CEO of a specialty materials company that was primarily focused on semiconductors as an end market. What drew me to Ingevity was the incredible potential that I see in the company our people and our products and technology. I'd also like to thank and acknowledge the board particularly Luis Fernandez Moreno who acted as interim CEO and Ingevity employees for planning a seamless and thoughtful transition. I felt welcome from day one and I look forward to what we can accomplish together. Also as announced at our recent annual meeting Bruce Hoekner who has served on our board since 2022 has been elected as chair succeeding Jean Blackwell. Jean will remain on the board and I want to express my deep appreciation for her leadership and ongoing support. I'm also excited to work with Bruce in his expanded role. Lastly I want to briefly address the broader operating environment. We are actively monitoring developments related to tariffs and macro demand conditions. We'll cover this in more detail later but briefly from a tariff standpoint we believe the direct impact to our business will be minimal and we have mitigation plans underway to manage any near-term effects. On macro demand particularly related to consumer sentiment and auto sales we've widened our guidance range to be in line with the latest auto industry forecasts which reflect an approximately 10 percent -over-year decline in North American auto production versus prior expectations when we deliver guidance in February. Despite these headwinds I believe Ingevity is well positioned to deliver strong profitability in 2025 and beyond. Our focus will remain on the discipline execution of our strategy to optimize the portfolio and drive business performance which should create significant value for our shareholders. With that I'll turn it over to Mary.
Thanks Dave. Good morning all. Please turn to slide five. First quarter sales of 284 million were down 17 percent versus Q1 last year due primarily to our repositioning actions in performance chemicals and weak industrial demand which also impacted advanced polymer technology sales. Our adjusted gross profit of 129 million was up 10 percent with gross margin improving over 1,000 basis points reflecting the successful execution of repositioning actions that included the exit of lower margin and markets, cost saving actions, and lower CTO costs. Adjusted SG&A dollars were down compared to last year but did increase as a percentage of net sales due to the lower revenue. Adjusted EBITDA was up 17 million and margins improved from 21.9 percent to 32.1 percent. This is our fourth consecutive quarter of -over-year gross margin and EBITDA margin improvement. A key goal of our repositioning actions was to reduce our exposure to lower margin and markets and you see in the chart on the bottom right of this slide how our most profitable businesses now represent the dominant portion of total company sales driving overall improvement profitability. Please turn to slide six. The key takeaway from this slide is that our successful execution of repositioning and improved working capital is driving strong free cash flow which combined with improving EBITDA is reducing leverage. Free cash flow of 15 million improved 44 million from Q1 last year primarily reflecting repositioning benefits including lower exposure to CTO. The chart in the upper left shows our net leverage continuing to improve ending the quarter at 3.3 times. As we move into the summer months and our road tech business ramps up we expect to generate strong free cash flow especially in the second half of the year. We are affirming our prior guidance of leverage less than 2.8 times by the end of this year. Turning to slide seven, performance materials had higher sales due to favorable regional and product mix as well as our annual price increases. In Q1 we saw volume growth in China as government incentives drove higher vehicle sales. We also saw growth in the rest of Asia Pacific as exports to the U.S. increased in anticipation of higher tariffs. We saw a similar increase in volume toward the end of the first quarter in North America although volumes for the entire quarter were down year over year. However, a favorable mix in North America offset the lower volume as we saw demand increase for hybrids and for more fuel efficient vehicles such as those with turbo or stop start features. These technologies require more of our higher value activated carbon even if overall carbon volume is lower in the vehicle. We also implemented our annual price increases during the quarter which contributed to the increase in sales. EBITDA margins remained near 54% for the quarter. Based on the latest auto industry forecast for this year which now show a 9 to 10% decline in North America versus the prior forecast, we estimate that segment EBITDA could be lower by $15 to $20 million and we have lowered the bottom end of our guidance to reflect this possibility. However, keep in mind that the average age of an automobile in the U.S. is at an all time high, around 14 years old. And at some point these vehicles will need to be replaced. Also, please remember that we can pivot to the filtration markets if auto production weakens. And while these are lower margin markets than auto, we have this and other levers to mitigate the impact. For full year 2025, we continue to expect segment margins around 50%. With respect to tariffs, to the extent they lead to actual declines in global auto production, the sensitivity analysis I just discussed would apply. In terms of direct impacts due to tariffs, our performance materials business does ship some materials from our U.S. plants to our China plants. Mitigating actions we are taking to minimize the impact from China imposed tariffs include utilizing existing in country inventory, expanding localization of materials sourcing, and adjusting price where appropriate. We believe these actions would largely offset the impact of China tariffs. Please turn to slide 8. APT had lower overall sales in the quarter with volumes mixed depending on the region. In North America and EMEA, volumes were higher while volumes in Asia were down primarily due to customers working through existing inventory and we saw increased competition which put downward pressure on price. EBITDA for the quarter was higher by $3 million and margins increased to 29.6%. This increase was driven primarily by higher utilization rates at the plant as we built inventory to prepare for an extended plant outage in the second quarter to install new boilers. On a full year basis, we expect margins for this segment to be approximately 20%. With respect to tariffs, we currently do not expect a material direct impact on APT as our manufacturing operations are in the U.K. and many of the products are exempt from tariffs. We are pleased to introduce a new member of our leadership team. Michael Shukov joined us as president of APT in March. He's an accomplished specialty chemicals executive who brings over 25 years of experience transforming business profitability and driving growth in new markets at global companies. Michael will focus on accelerating profitable segment growth across product lines and geographies and driving operational excellence to reduce cost. Please turn to slide nine for performance chemicals results. Sales for the segment were lower by 35% primarily as a result of our repositioning actions. Industrial specialties had revenue of $51 million which is in line with our go-forward quarterly run rate expectations of $40 to $50 million of sales per quarter. Road tech sales were down slightly from last year in this seasonally slow period. Maintaining the momentum from the second half of last year, segment EBITDA showed -over-year improvement of $10 million. The key drivers of this improvement were lower CTO costs which peaked in Q1 of last year and cost savings as a result of successful repositioning actions. We continue to expect the high cost inventory purchased last year to negatively impact margins through Q2 but also expect full year segment EBITDA margins in the mid to high single digits. Our discussions with interested parties regarding strategic options for industrial specialties and North Charleston refinery are progressing well and we expect to communicate a path forward before the end of the year. With respect to tariffs, this segment has all its manufacturing assets in the U.S. and the majority of its sales are within the U.S. In addition, the raw materials we purchase are either sourced in the U.S. or exempt from announced tariffs. Therefore, we currently expect minimal direct impact from tariffs. In summary, our results demonstrate our progress in improving profitability and reducing leverage and we expect this momentum to continue through the year. And I'll now turn the call back today for an update on guidance and closing comments.
Thanks, Mary. Please turn to slide 10. As I mentioned earlier, we continue to monitor the evolving macro landscape including the implications of recent tariffs and broader global uncertainty. We intend to manage our business with discipline and flexibility guided by what we see from our customers and supported by industry forecasts. From a tariff standpoint, we currently believe the direct impact to our business will be minimal and that we are well positioned to mitigate the impact due to our global infrastructure and business model as well as further mitigation plans including pricing surcharges, inventory management and additional localization efforts. However, based on the latest third-party projections for North American auto production, we've made the decision to adjust the low end of our full year guidance to account for the potential slowdown in production. As noted on slide 10, we've widened our guidance range for sales and EBITDA to reflect the impact of a 10% reduction in North American auto production in line with the most recent industry forecast. This should also provide some sensitivity to our business should end market demand conditions further deteriorate. So far in Q2, we've not seen material shifts in customer order patterns in our performance materials business and the positive momentum we saw in March continued into April. While we recognize the challenges ahead, we remain focused on continuing to execute against our commitments to improve profitability and reduce leverage and are confident in our ability to navigate this environment and continue to deliver value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn it over for questions.
As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question on today's call, please press star fuller by one on your telephone keypad now. And our first question comes from John McNulty from BMO Capital Markets. John, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Yeah, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. And Dave, congratulations on the role. Great to have you in the seat. I guess first you wanted to just, sure, just wanted to dig into the performance materials business. Can you speak to the pricing that you're seeing right now and where you might be looking to take that given some of the issues you spoke to about tariff and working around some tariff issues?
Right. So thanks for the question. I'll let Mary take the specifics on pricing. But from a performance materials standpoint, obviously, we think we have a very strong position, great technology. And this quarter we saw very strong performance. And we mentioned in my comments that we continue to see that strength that we saw in the later part of the quarter continuing to April. And everyone's watching this sort of environment of uncertainty. But so far what we've seen is pretty encouraging. Mary, why don't you talk to the pricing? Sure.
And so as we've talked about before, John, in this business, the performance materials business, we do typically do a once a year kind of annual price increase. This year was normal course of business from that regard. Clearly, it is a lever we can pull to the extent that we do see production begin to decline or tariff impacts that are unexpected, et cetera. But again, to date, we're not seeing that. So we have, price is one of the tools in our toolkit that we can use as a mitigating lever. But as David mentioned, there are others, again, increasing localization efforts where there might be a tariff impact, for example. So so far, business as usual on that front.
And John, I would just add to Mary's comments, we feel like from a tariff perspective, we're really well positioned. And I think you know that following the company for as long as you have. But primarily, we're producing local for local. So we have US facilities producing products for US sales. And then also in China, we're producing for China production to the extent that we have any tariff impact. We have mitigation plans underway. And one of those, as Mary mentioned, is pricing. But we feel confident we can mitigate any tariff impact and what we see right now. Of course, it's a very dynamic situation. But what we see right now is a tariff impact will be minimal.
Got it. Okay. No, that's very helpful. And then just as the follow up question, on the strategic review of the InSpec business, I guess, can you give us a little bit more color on the update or progress there and also for the potential for that review to maybe be broadened? It looks like you're you may be maybe taking this toward the end of the year. I think Mary said in your in your commentary seems like a bit longer than normal to kind of think about a strategic review. So maybe you can give us an update on that as well.
Okay, didn't intend to imply that. Let me address kind of in order. The process is progressing. Well, we are in a process. I can say that we have had quite a bit of interest, quite broad degree of interest and are being very deliberate and thoughtful in working through that. So, you know, we're kind of in the point as as that those discussions are live to really not being able to give you more color than that. When I say before the end of the year, is that a long time? You know, probably does seem like a long time, but we're moving as expeditiously and thoughtfully as we can and hope to have, you know, more news as soon as is appropriate.
Got it. Fair enough. Thanks very much for the color.
The next question comes from John Tanwantung from CGO Securities. John, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. And also David to you for the position. If you could, I was wondering if you could talk about your strategic and operational priorities, especially in a volatile environment, you know, compared to your Fed assessors and how might be
different. Yeah, thanks, John. And first of all, I want to thank you for your question. First, as I mentioned, really excited to be here. I've known in Jevety for a long time and I've spent my career in specialty materials, you know, from a strategic and operational focus. I think a lot of what the momentum that Luis as our interim CEO brought is something we definitely want to continue just in terms of that focus on discipline execution, you know, getting optimized performance from our businesses. Mary talked about the ongoing process we have around industrial specialties. So we need to really focus on executing and really optimizing business performance. You know, the priorities also remain the same, which are to continue reducing our leverage and getting to the point where we have some optionality with our business. You know, think about it in terms of right now we've got a portfolio that's in transition. We really need to get to the point where we've paid down leverage, optimize that business performance and then figure out what is the kind of cohesion of our portfolio? Where do we have the right to operate businesses and think about then think about where we might grow into. But I think for this first period, it's really focused on execution, paying down debt and being a little bit more front footed and having some more optionality with the business.
Great, thank you. Mary, if you could touch on the cash flow for the year, what lets you keep the forecast with a little bit more, I guess, on the earnings, especially if the auto comes in at the low end?
So, we, you know, continue to execute well on working capital management. And frankly, in a worsening environment, hopefully we don't get there. But, you know, if you're in an environment where sales, for example, are trending down in that lower EBITDA part of the guidance, we would typically actually throw off more free cash flow. You're not building as much inventory for growth. You're not building receivables for growth. So, history demonstrates that, uh, you know, in the scenarios that we've articulated for you here, we're very comfortable affirming the free cash flow guide.
Thank you. And then if I could speak one more, and you mentioned an EB slowdown, which is pretty apparent. I was just wondering, how much does that impact your forecast internally versus, I guess, the 10% down on the industry? And, you know, furthermore, how does that impact the investment?
Right. So, I think your question was really on EVs, but let me just take the, you know, from kind of setting the fundamentals first. We wanted to really anchor our guidance on a, you know, widely accepted industry standard, which was at S&P. So, they reduced their forecast by about 10%. And modeling that into 10% of North American auto production. And when you kind of model that through our results, that's how we get to that 15 to 20 million dollar reduction in EBITDA. And we wanted to do that also because it's a very uncertain environment. If it's less, then, you know, the effect would be less. And obviously, if it's more, the situation worsens, then it also would correlate with that initial guidance. In terms of EVs, you know, our investment with Nexion is really an exciting initiative to extend our expertise in carbon technology to EVs. Even though EVs are slowing down, they're obviously becoming an important part of the auto industry. And so, while we are pleased with the progress with Nexion, I think that any sort of slowdown in EVs, you know, we're more excited about the adoption of this new type of technology that would represent a new growth platform for us. So, I don't think the EV slowdown would really impact our enthusiasm for the future technology from Nexion.
And maybe I'll just add on to that. Again, this is about, you know, one element of Nexion is about new battery technology. So, it's not just EV cars technology. This is about us finding new applications for our carbon in new battery technology. And hopefully, you know, we'd like the progress with Nexion. And if that technology is successful, again, remember, EVs include hybrids, and we're in hybrids, too. So, those are not, you know, on the decline. Hybrids continue to see good growth. So, we view the hybrid segment of EVs as positive, and we also view Nexion as, you know, as potentially another doorway to new markets for
us. Great. Thank you.
The next question comes from Daniel Rizzo from Jeffreys. Daniel, your line is open.
Please come ahead. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. You mentioned that maybe shifting to the filtration market if there is more weakness within auto. I was wondering if how big the shift in volumes or if it's kind of more of a partial offset?
Yeah, I think that's been something that we've had in place for a while. It's a natural outlet for if any underutilized capacity. I let Mary maybe comment on just how much of an outlet we've used in the past.
I think during COVID, when production was down significantly, that filtration was a significant pivot for us. And again, clearly lower margin markets than auto, just about, you know, most things are. But that is a very sizable market and can soak up a lot of capacity if it's available.
When you say lower margin, is it, I mean, can you quantify what you're talking about really?
We have not quantified that in the past.
But I think, Dan, if you look at the market for activated carbon, as Mary mentioned, it's a big segment. We'll obviously prioritize the higher value components of it. But it's hard to find a comparable to the auto market that we have a very strong position. So, you know, obviously, it'll be something less. But as Mary mentioned, we haven't talked about the specific margin range.
Okay. Thanks for the clarification. And then you mentioned getting down to less than 2.8 times leverage by the end of the year. I was wondering if there's what the long-term goal is, or if that's changed at all in, I don't know, in recent times?
Well, we've historically said 2 to 2.5 times. And I think we're still in that, you know, still holding firm to that as a long-term target. I think today's point, we believe, especially, you know, as a kind of in the smaller caps, mid-cap space, that that kind of leverage seems to be where our owners would like to see us and does provide us that additional optionality that Dave mentioned. So we're clearly headed in the right direction.
Thank you very much.
Thanks, Dan.
The next question comes from Michael Sison from Wells Fargo. Michael, your line is open. Please come ahead.
Hi, this is Abigail on for Mike. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats, David. So looking at APS, you mentioned increased competition in China. Are you expecting that to remain a headwind going forward? And do you think you'll be able to recoup any of the pricing you've had to concede long-term?
Yeah, thanks, Abigail. It is a competitive environment, especially in China, as we mentioned. But I think on the other side of it, we have a new leader in charge of the business, Michael. We're really excited to bring him aboard. And he's brought not only experience, but also we are optimizing our commercial approach. And so I think we definitely have advantages. We have technologies that have differentiation. So we're encouraged, but it is a competitive environment. And so it's one of those things where we expect to continue maintaining our positions, growing them in certain situations. There's obviously an industrial component, an auto component, and sort of a consumer component. And so I think it's going to be a kind of a slog. But I think we definitely have technology with differentiation, a new leader in place. And so we're encouraged by our progress there. And so again, we'll have to see how it goes in the future, but encouraged by what we've seen so far and excited to have Michael aboard.
Okay, got it. And then as a follow-up, in terms of raw materials, you mentioned that your draws in performance chemicals are either sourced locally or exempt from tariffs. Is that true for your other two segments?
Yeah, from a tariff perspective and a supply chain perspective, we're really not very exposed to tariffs at this time. We think the impact is very minimal. And so everything that we can source locally we have, that's already been something we've had in place a while. So from a supply chain perspective, really no concerns.
Okay, got it.
Thanks. We have no further questions, so I'll hand the call back to John and I, Papa, for some closing comments.
Thanks, Adam. That concludes our call. Thank you for your interest in Ingevity, and we'll talk with you again next quarter.
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