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spk00: Greetings. Welcome to Northern Oil's second quarter 2022 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Eric Romslow. Thank you. You may begin.
spk07: Good morning. This is Eric Romslow, Chief Legal Officer of NOG, and welcome to our second quarter 2022 earnings conference call. Yesterday, after the market closed, we released our financial results for the second quarter. You can access our earnings release on our Investor Relations website, and our Form 10-Q will be filed with the SEC in the next few days. We also posted a new investor deck on our website last night. I'm joined here this morning by NOG's Chief Executive Officer, Nick O'Grady, our President, Adam Durlam, our Chief Financial Officer, Chad Allen, and our EVP and Chief Engineer, Jim Evans. Our agenda for today's call is as follows. Nick will start us off with his comments regarding our second quarter and our business strategy. After that, Adam will give you an overview of operations, and then Chad will review our second quarter financials and updates to our 2022 guidance. After the conclusion of our prepared remarks, the team will be available to answer any questions. Before we go any further, though, let me cover our safe harbor language. Please be advised that our remarks today, including the answers to your questions, may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to be materially different from the expectations contemplated by these forward-looking statements. Those risks include, among others, matters that we have described in our earnings release as well as in our filings with the SEC, including our annual report on Form 10-K and our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. We disclaim any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. During today's call, we may discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, and pre-cash flow. Reconciliations of these measures to the closest GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release. With that, I will turn the call over to our CEO, Nick O'Grady.
spk09: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's call. I'll get right down to it and focus on five key points. Number one, despite some nasty storms, the second quarter still broke records for NMG. We generated a company record $272.5 million of adjusted EBITDA and approximately $114 million of free cash flow, the highest and second highest in company history, respectively. We produced nearly 73,000 BOE per day in the quarter, and we have already generated over $260 million of free cash flow in the first half of 2022, more than we produced during all of 2021. We also hit an important milestone of one-times leverage on an LQA basis for the first time in my tenure here at NOG, despite having a working capital surplus of over $85 million, which is additional cash that will come to us over time. Number two, acquisition discipline. The deal we announced in June to acquire additional Williston properties is a testament to our strategy and we continue to find meaningful ways to add value to our business. We continue to focus on a risk-managed, return-driven strategy that adds inventory and surety to our investments, all with the goal of delivering superior total return for our stakeholders. This means focusing on return on capital employed, which in turn will drive higher long-term dividend and buyback potential. Number three, diversification is key. Although early spring storms had a temporary but significant effect on the Williston Basin, NOG's diversified model continues to prove itself, where we delivered higher volumes driven by the benefit of having properties in multiple basins. The Williston is now fully back online, and we're benefiting from exceptional in-basin pricing and lower inflation than in our other most active areas. Number four, future growth. Organic activity on our acreage has been accelerating and exceeding our expectations. Larger than typical, meaningful ground game opportunities are at exceptionally high levels, and while quality is as variable as ever, there are also an ever-growing number of significant bolt-on opportunities hitting the marketplace today. I'll remind our investors that NOG's balance sheet is built to handle most acquisition targets we're analyzing without external equity financing. NOG is fully on the offensive. We have the firepower, the scale, and perhaps the broadest set of opportunities in the company's history. With every high commodity cycle comes some newfound competition, but in the end, it will be our discipline, analytical rigor, and balance sheet strength that will set NOG apart more than anything else through the cycles. Number five, shareholder returns. Our goal is to provide our shareholders with the highest possible total return over the long term. We have implemented a multi-prong approach, including repurchasing common stock and preferred stock, canceling a portion of our common stock warrants, repurchasing our senior notes at a discount, and increasing cash dividends for our common shareholders. A, during the quarter, we bought back our senior notes at 98% of par, lowering fixed charges, which boosts free cash flow permanently, but also at a discount to face value, which is accreted to the enterprise value. These notes were issued last fall at nearly 107% of par value and now have been retired at less than we owe. If higher interest rates drive bond values below par value, we are prepared to take advantage of opportunities to continue to repurchase senior notes. B, on the equity side, we've retired $77.5 million year-to-date, including $20 million of common stock so far, the remainder being preferred stock. As a reminder, we have $130 million of remaining common stock buyback authorization. C, we also cleaned up a large portion of our outstanding warrants during Q2. We did this in a capital efficient manner to reduce future potential dilution and to mitigate associated hedging by our warrant holders that we believe could affect the trading of our common stock. Investors may have noticed a significant recent reduction in short interest in part derived from this transaction. B, on Monday, we announced a 32% increase to our quarterly common stock dividend to 25 cents per share for Q3 with the goal of providing an attractive yield for our investors. We strongly believe that the consistency of a stable and growing quarterly dividend is more valuable to investors and our equity value over time than special dividend structures which introduce unpredictability and volatility. E, finally, actions speak louder than words. Our successful execution of acquiring and integrating accretive acquisitions has driven our free cash flow to record levels. We believe there's continued room for expansion. We seek to maximize our long-run total shareholder return by providing for a stable, attractive dividend and ongoing free cash flow growth. While we have outperformed our peer group, we are mindful of the continued attractiveness of the stock and are pleased to have a robust buyback plan authorization, which presents further opportunity for our free cash flow. In closing, I will remind you, as I always do, we are a company run by investors for investors, and I want to thank each and every one of you for taking the time to listen to us today. With that, I'll turn the call over to Adam.
spk05: Thanks, Nick. Operationally, the second quarter finished as expected, and we continue to see the year progressing right down the fairway. We maintained a healthy pace of development in the first half of the year, turning in line 10.1 net wells in the second quarter. Permian completions increased, contributing 60% of the additions, while the Williston made up about a third of the activity. We also brought online our latest Marcellus patent, which increased NAGS production in the region by 11%. The new wells have outperformed internal forecasts, and we remain encouraged by the results. Elevated organic activity on our acreage position, as well as the success we've had with our ground game acquisitions, boosted our total wells in process to 57 net wells across 500 gross widths. The breakdown by basin remains consistent with the first quarter as the Permian makes up almost half our oil-weighted wells in process, while the two-year high in the Williston rig count is providing for additional activity. The pace of development on our acreage footprint continues to accelerate as we added an additional 16.7 net wells to the drilling and completing list, netting an increase of approximately eight net wells in the quarter. The increase in capex during the quarter was attributable to the pull forward in drilling activity as our DNC list on average has incurred roughly 50% of the anticipated development spend and is consistent with the ramp in completion activity we are expecting in the second half of the year. Well costs came in as expected on inbound AFPs in the second quarter and averaged $7.2 million per well, up less than 3% from last quarter. We expect well costs to increase in the second half of the year, but well within our per well estimates, which is already incorporated within our stated annual CapEx guidance. In Q2, we saw 115 well proposals equally balanced between the Permian and the Williston, with the average expected rate of return far north of 100%. We also continue to partner with larger operators and benefit from their leverage with service providers. Our active management of the portfolio on the buy side has provided us with the ability to forego development opportunities with certain smaller operators who have felt the largest impact of the inflationary pain. To that end, the M&A market is alive and well in this current environment, and we have been reviewing over $2 billion worth of opportunities. While the bid-ask spread is real, there are a number of sellers with unrealistic expectations. Our attention remains on quality assets and reasonable sellers. We have superior data, scale, and the balance sheet strength to be the preferred counterparty, one that is a reliable executor of acquisitions and that can underwrite with precision to generate a superior return for our investors. From a ground gain standpoint, we closed on 4.2 net wells in Q2 and the acquisitions are expected to generate a full cycle return on capital of 52% in 2023. The Williston made up approximately three quarters of the activity as operators remain focused in the core and have also done a better job of keeping inflation under control. At a package level, we are slated to close on our recently announced Williston acquisition in the middle of August, and there are currently 13 additional acquisition opportunities that we are evaluating. The focus remains in the Delaware, Midland, and Williston basins, which have provided for some of the most compelling opportunities to date. As NOG has scaled up and diversified over the last 18 months, the breadth of opportunities that we are able to pursue is also expanding. Our ability to move quickly and underwrite assets has provided us with operator partnerships as we co-develop acreage positions, explore asset swaps, look to partner on operated asset packages, and set up various development agreements. Paired with the typical non-op packages that we see on and off market, the addressable market has never been better. While it may appear to be a seller's market, we continue to source unique opportunities and we remain disciplined in only pursuing acquisitions that meet or exceed our return thresholds. With that, I'll turn it over to Chad.
spk04: Thanks, Adam. I'll start by reviewing some of our key second quarter results, which was, again, one of the strongest quarters in company history. Our Q2 average daily production increased 2% sequentially over Q1 and increased 33% over Q2 of 2021. Oil volumes were down slightly, driven almost entirely by the spring storms in the Williston Basin, where we have our highest oil cut assets. Our adjusted EBITDA was $272.5 million, which exceeded consensus estimates and was a record for NOG. Our free cash flow was robust at $114.3 million, the second highest in our company's history. Our adjusted EPS was $1.72 per share in Q2, above consensus estimates. Oil differentials were better than expected in Q2 and came in at $2.33 per barrel due to strong Bakken pricing and having more barrels weighted towards the Permian, which has a sub $2 oil differential. Gas realizations continue to remain strong in Q2, which is leading to the increase in our annual guidance for gas realizations. However, as gas prices have risen, the MGL spread has narrowed, which will lower realizations in the latter half of the year. Combined with the seasonally wider Marcellus differentials in the shoulder season, we expect gas realizations below 100% of NYMEX in the third quarter. Lease operating costs were $64.6 million in the second quarter, or $9.77 per BLE, up on a per-unit basis compared to the first quarter. This was fully expected and factored into our guidance for the year, driven by the second quarter incurrence of our annual firm transport costs in the Marcellus. Cash G&A adjusted per acquisition cost related to our recent acquisitions was $0.93 per BOE. We continue to experience elevated G&A costs from costs associated with a highly active period in M&A valuation, and many of those costs are not excluded from those figures. Capital spending for the second quarter was $131.8 million, which was slightly above street expectations as we saw a pull forward in drilling activity and additional ground game activity late in the quarter. Our Williston Basin spending made up 38% of the total capital expenditures for the quarter. The Permian made up 56%, and the Marcellus made up 5%. The pace of our capex spending ramp for the second half of 2022 will be dictated by tight conditions in the field, as we've seen both pull forwards and delays. We have a record 57 net wells in process, which means our growth trajectory remains very strong as we head towards 2023. The balance sheet is in great shape. While the revolving borrowings ended only slightly lower quarter over quarter, that's a function of the $17 million deposits on our Williston acquisition, as well as over a $13 million reduction in our 2028 notes. In aggregate, leverage was still down on an absolute and ratio basis, with an LQA ratio of one times. Leverage will tick up slightly next quarter with the Williston acquisition closing, but the ratio should still be well below one times at year end. We are monitoring the interest rate environment as well as our bond levels, and we look to find ways to efficiently reduce leverage if the market opportunity is there. Given the cash flow we expect to generate, we forecast our revolver to be undrawn by mid-next year, despite funding the Williston acquisition this year. Well, that could certainly move depending on commodity prices, how we use our free cash flow, and other factors. As previously announced, in early June, we amended and extended our revolving credit facility. with a substantial increase in our borrowing base and elected commitment, to $1.3 billion and $850 million, respectively. That, coupled with our free cash flow, means our liquidity remains very strong. On the hedging front, we opportunistically added hedges north of $80 per barrel since our last report, mostly to fill our targets in 2023 and 2024 and to top off volumes from our recent acquisitions. We continue to target hedging around 60% of production on a rolling 18-month basis with select longer-dated hedging tied to corporate acquisitions. Changes in the shape of the curve have allowed us to add some of our first costless oil collars in 2023, all with a floor of at least $80. With respect to updated 2022 guidance, our production guidance is unchanged from our June update at a range of 73,000 to 77,000 DOE per day for the year. We bumped full-year LOE guidance modestly by about $0.30, mostly driven by the increase in processing costs associated with higher NGL prices year-to-date and the slight impact from our pending Williston acquisition. As I mentioned earlier, oil differentials in both the Williston and Permian have been materially better than expected, so we're updating our full-year guidance to $4.50 to $5.25 per barrel. While we're bumping up our gas realization guidance, We do expect lower realizations in the second half of 2022, as I mentioned earlier. For modeling purposes, North Dakota has raised production taxes to 11% of oil sales and approximately $0.09 per unit for natural gas. This is well within the bounds of our existing production tax guidance for 2022. All in all, this outlook should generate approximately $500 million of free cash flow for the year, which includes payment of our preferred stock dividends. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for Q&A.
spk00: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. And for participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question is from Neil Dingman with Truist Securities. Please proceed.
spk13: Good morning, all. Nice details. Nick, my first question is on capital allocation, specifically your thoughts on balancing your suggested dividend and other shareholder return plan with what looks to be continued very opportunistic ground game.
spk09: You know, I think it just comes down to capital allocation and, you know, kind of a risk-adjusted return. I think, you know, usually when you run it at a pure corporate finance perspective, game, you know, still some of the highest returns. You know, as multiples and valuations have compressed overall, obviously our own securities and dividend plans have started to compete with that significantly. And so you've seen us, you know, we designed this plan to have a lot of flexibility. And so we've really been kind of ratcheting that up, especially as the opportunities come. But I think it's really still a multi-pronged kind of all the above approach.
spk13: No, glad to hear that. And then second question on competition specifically, could you discuss kind of today's industry competition, such as from maybe SPACs or other players versus what you saw several quarters ago when you took over?
spk09: Sure. Yeah. I mean, like any other cycle, you know, we definitely see pockets of competition here or there. In the current environment, we've seen some competition for very small interests. And on the larger side of transactions for PDP-heavy properties, that's fine by us. That's not something we're terribly interested in. The reason for this is that PDP properties are mortgageable. And given how difficult raising equity capital has been, groups are using debt and asset-backed securitizations, which are more readily available to fund these. And much like real estate trying to arbitrage the quote-unquote cap rate, this, of course, assumes you have an accurate view of the PDP declines and cost structures to beat. truly safe investments. On sizable, concentrated ground game assets and the larger packages, we always have some competition, but we remain highly competitive. Our biggest competition is generally the hold case and or unrealistic development expectations. Sometimes we feel like we know too much, that we lose assets because buyers may be mismodeling the reserves, costs, or development timing. We're fine to lose if that's the case. As for SPACs, et cetera, all I would say is that, you know, there's a reason you go through the IPO process, which is to build alignment and create value, not just for the company, but for the new investors as well. It creates sort of a symbiotic relationship where the IPO participant gets assets at a perceived discount. The company then builds trust and over time earns further access to capital. Being public and having access to capital are not the same thing. And it's not just a switch you simply pull. So SPACs have an inherent misalignment, which are designed to give free value to the sponsor in the form of a zero basis promote. And for the seller to be able to dictate the price of the sale into the SPAC, rather than let the market and investors decide what those assets are worth. Which begs the question as to why you would choose that path, and I think the answer is obvious, which is that the value you get, at least initially, is self-selected and much higher than the market would bear. When I was a kid, my brother and I would build sandcastles at my grandmother's place in Massachusetts. We were determined to make them strong enough to survive the tide coming in. Every morning, though, we went to the beach and our castle had been wiped clean by the tide. That's my view of markets. You can financially engineer all the things you want, but in the end, the power of market forces will ultimately be the determinant of value. So I don't perceive these as real competition. I think as a team, we've spent nearly five years building a strong investor base, a good reputation with sellers as a forthright and reliable partner, scale, and now oodles of liquidity. I still believe we remain the best and most viable counterparty.
spk13: Great details. And I was waiting to love these analogies.
spk10: Every quarter, buddy.
spk00: Our next question is from Derek Whitfield. Stay full. Please proceed.
spk11: Thanks. And good morning, all. And Nick, I love that analogy.
spk10: Thanks.
spk11: With my... With my first question, I wanted to focus on the production trajectory for Q3 and Q4. And thinking about the production outages in Q2 and the acquisition that will close in Q3, we have oil production increasing about 4,000 barrels in Q3 and then another 3,000 barrels in Q4. Does that seem about right?
spk09: I think what we're only going to have on the Wilson acquisition, we're only going to have, you know, let's call it 45 DAYS OR SO. DEREK, RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE IN MID-AUGUST. THE EFFECTIVE DAY GOES BACK, BUT THAT WILL BE IN THE PURCHASE PRICE SETTLEMENT. WE'LL GET THAT CASH FLOW, BUT IT WON'T BE IN THE FORM OF PRODUCTION. I THINK WE SEE STEADY RAMP, BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THE FOURTH QUARTER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MUCH DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF WHIPS, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE THE LARGEST IMPACT FROM COMPLETIONS JUST BECAUSE EVEN IF WE HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE TURN IN LINE SCHEDULE IN Q3. YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET A PORTION OF THAT VOLUME. JIM, I DON'T KNOW. YOU WANT TO COMMENT TOWARDS THAT?
spk02: YEAH, DEREK, IT'S JIM. WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY LARGE PATHS IN THE WILLISTON RIGHT NOW THAT ARE WORKING THROUGH. WE EXPECT THOSE TO BE MOSTLY TOWARDS LATE Q3, EARLY Q4. SO THAT'S WHEN WE'RE KIND OF EXPECTING OUR BIG RAMP IN PRODUCTION THROUGHOUT THE WILLISTON, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY OUR HIGHEST OIL CUT AREA. We kind of expect it to be kind of later towards the end of the year that we see that big ramp.
spk11: Terrific. And then as my follow-up, referencing slide 15, could you share your thoughts on what's driving the stronger Bakken well performance in 2022? Is it perhaps longer laterals or tighter elections?
spk05: I think it's a combination of the operator mix and operators, you know, remaining disciplined. We're not seeing necessarily the step outs that we've seen in bull runs in the past. And so, you know, you've got our low cost and, you know, what we would consider some of our best, you know, top three operators contributing to that.
spk02: Yeah, and obviously a lot of the stuff that came on in the first half of the year was wells that we elected to in 2020, where oil prices were a little bit lower. So operators were still kind of sticking to that core. As we've gotten into 2022 here with high prices, we've seen some operators start to step out a little bit. So we would expect some well performance degradation towards back half the year into 2023. But so far, we're very pleased with the performance that we're seeing.
spk11: Terrific. Very helpful and thanks for your time.
spk00: Our next question is from Austin Aquin with Johnson Race. Please proceed.
spk08: Good morning, Nick, and to your team. Thank you for taking my questions. First question is, Northern seems to be one of the few companies who are not having to increase CapEx outlook due to inflation. Can you provide some color on how you set your inflation expectations at the beginning of the year?
spk09: Yeah, I mean, I think the simplest part is that we baked in inflation this year, but we also didn't bake in deflation in 2021. So we effectively were running cost ruptures from pre-pandemic. We never really changed that forecast and then added inflation on top of it. So as it stands today, you know, the only cadence, and frankly, for this quarter in particular, the only cadence that really can change that is either if you have a pull forward of activity, which really is just borrowing from future quarters, uh, or if we've had, you know, the lumpy success that you have in the ground game when you're, you're acquiring, because when you acquire the acreage or, and the well bores, uh, you're accruing immediately for the capital. So if a well is half in process, it might not cost you very much money, but you're booking all the costs of those wells in process. And so that's why it can be quite lumpy. Um, But frankly, as it stands today, you know, we're really comfortable with the guidance where it is. You know, if we had a material acceleration of development, it still won't really change that. It just changes the timing of that within the year. But, you know, we've been right in the middle of the goalposts pretty much all year. And I just think that, you know, the thing is that when we've done this, historically speaking, we don't necessarily look, we try to look beyond our nose and we don't just look at where our cost structure is today and bake some small piece. And we spent a lot of time, particularly at the end of last year, as we were looking towards this, because we had a fairly, you know, grave assessment from what we were seeing in terms of where costs ultimately were going to go. And we do expect costs to continue to increase throughout the year. But, you know, as you could note from our average AAP costs, you know, we're still nearly a million dollars, you know, well below
spk05: than that as you go throughout the year and that's a function of you know the operating partners that we actively manage to you know participate with right and so we have an idea of you know our operating partners cost structures their propensity to overrun and using that data you know in 2020 moving into 21 and into 22 you know you can leverage that and structure around it
spk08: appreciate the color and I'm at the follow-up how would you prioritize your cash return to your shareholders it's a top priority buying back the preferred shares followed by the increase of the base dividend then debt reduction and finally repurchasing out of common shares I don't know if it's that simple because I think it's really opportunistic I would say you know the preferred stock is in the money so the Delta between the preferred stock and the
spk09: common stock has gone up. I think we still, you know, we are a risk averse group. And so, you know, debt reduction still plays a big role. And I think there's a difference between paying down debt and buying in your bonds in the sense that to the extent that, you know, high interest, high, you know, Fed funds rates means that bond prices go down. We're not just retiring debt, but we're actually creating enterprise value because you're buying it at a discount to what you owe. So that actually has a impact the equity value as well as the overall debt levels. So I think that we really try to stay flexible. I think that a stable and growing dividend is really important. We also are very mindful of managing the yield expectation on that. I don't think when companies have really low yields, it doesn't matter. And when they have really high yields, that tends to create its own set of problems. an upstream MLP of old, but I think we will be very, very flexible and, you know, we have put mechanisms both from an authorization perspective and just in terms of our own internal mechanics around SEC rules to be able to be very, very opportunistic.
spk08: Thank you. That's all from me.
spk00: Our next question is from John Freeman with Raymond James. Please proceed. Good morning, guys.
spk01: John, how are you? Good, thanks. First question, if I heard you right, Adam, I think you said that y'all got, you know, just a lot of opportunities in the pipeline for acquisitions in Delaware, Midland, and Wilson Basin, and I didn't hear you mention the Marcellus, and I'm just wondering if that's by design or it's just, you know, other, you know, has it gotten really competitive or just any other reasons why that one wasn't mentioned?
spk05: We've looked at two or three potential acquisitions this year in the Marcellus. They just weren't a fit. I think my prepared comments were around the 13 processes that are effectively current right now. We've run those out in a quarter and put those to bed. We're actively looking. It's just a matter of not being a fit at the moment.
spk09: We had one Marcellus prospect that was
spk01: exciting to us it just it didn't trade john to be candid um you know it didn't the old whole gift yeah the old whole case uh came to bite us so the uh the follow-up i had it's uh kind of on the the prior line of questions uh nick that you answered um you have obviously done a great job managing uh the cost line while most everybody else in the space is how the continual capex increases and I may not hold you to this, but just y'all are going to have better insight than just about anybody given the number of operators and across the basins that y'all are in. I mean, do you have sort of an idea of what you would assume, just as it stands now, what you would assume is a reasonable cost inflation number to plug in for next year?
spk09: It's difficult to know in the sense that I could certainly tell you how we see it exiting, but I think, you know, if oil prices are $50 next year is going to be a very different answer. I think it's, it would be very presumptuous to make the assumption. I mean, I think setters, paribus, if, you know, cost increases tend to be total. Is that right? Yeah, that's about right.
spk05: Yeah, I guess the way that I kind of frame it up is it's going to depend on your operating partners. It's going to depend on your working interests associated with them. So as we get towards the end of the year and kind of frame up and have a better idea of the cadence of kind of the tills and whatever else is kind of in the backlog in terms of AFEs, that'll be drilling into that. We'll be able to better frame that up.
spk01: I appreciate the answers, guys. Well done.
spk00: Our next question is from John Abbott with Bank of America. Please proceed.
spk03: Good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. Sort of similar along the lines of the prior question on inflation, but given the pivot it seems towards going with larger companies versus smaller companies, can you provide any sort of color on the difference between AFV costs between a larger operator and a smaller operator at this point in time?
spk09: I mean, I've seen just from anecdotally, John, and I'll let the smarter people in the room answer the rest of this, but when we've seen kind of, you know, stand-up rig operators looking for development capital in the Permian, $2 million to $3 million a well difference, and that's because they're paying spot prices for I believe one AFV that was $16 million. For a two-mile lateral. For a two-mile lateral.
spk10: We did not participate in that.
spk05: So the variability is certainly wide in the Permian, just given the number of different operators you have, maybe relative to Williston. I guess the only other thing that I would qualify it with is, you know, we're not necessarily just focused on well costs, right? I mean, we're solving for a required rate of return. And so it's going to, you know, Also need to take into consideration completion methodologies, offsets, all those types of, you know, technical aspects to it. So we're happy to elect to, you know, maybe a above average AFV to the extent that it's going to meet our hurdle rates.
spk03: Appreciate it. And it sounds, the second question is sort of on maintenance CapEx. I mean, it looks like you have a very strong trajectory at the end of this year, which probably will help your spending potentially in 2023. But if you had to guess at this point in time, where do you think maintenance capex, just sort of thinking about inflation is overall, and if you do have the color, where do you think about it in terms of your various areas?
spk10: Well, when you say maintenance capex, what's the production level you're picking, right?
spk03: Let's just choose the 77,000 BOE per day exit rate, potentially, somewhere around there.
spk10: Yeah, I mean, that's 58% 62 wells, probably.
spk09: So, you know, but remember, it's going to be, you know, let's call it $450 to $500 million hand-waving. Again, I think it's a little early to kind of make those assumptions.
spk03: I understand. Hey, thank you very much for taking my questions. Yeah, you're welcome.
spk00: Our next question is from Noel Parks with Tuohy Brothers. Please proceed.
spk06: Hi, good morning. You know, maybe as a subset of the discussion about what you think about cost trends, I've been hearing here and there from some operators that they're starting to see a little bit of trouble with materials delivery. and with that sort of backing its way up into slowing completion. So even though the estimated costs aren't different, they're just starting to see that bit of schedule padding or schedule slippage. I'm just wondering, are you hearing about anything like that in any of your regions?
spk10: Yeah, absolutely. I think we've seen material delays as much as six months on pads,
spk09: one well that came on six months early. So it's always a push and pull. There are always delays. The fields are very, very tight. But statistically speaking, it hasn't really been a major issue for us.
spk05: Oh, and that's the beauty of the diversification and the 500 wells that we have in process, right? So we don't have one particular operator creating a big problem for us to the extent that they've got a big problem for themselves.
spk09: I mean, I think our secret sauce, Noel, is that we generally don't take everything at face value, meaning that we make assumptions that things take longer, that they cost more, and that's why we are where we are at this point in the year with roughly a static budget and unscheduled.
spk06: Gotcha. And there definitely has been an air of caution among operators as far as, you know, committing or even previewing what their expectations are for 2023. I guess I'm just thinking in your view, if, say, you know, pick a number, you know, by this time next year, we're up another 10%, 15%, 20%, or whatever. Do you have any sense of whether we might be peaking in terms of the service environment? I've heard from some operators, you know, we are paying the most we've ever paid for services in a particular basin. And then others have been saying that they do see signs of new equipment coming online from the service companies, not at the pace that you have seen in past booms, but that sort of that steady trickle is on the way. Again, just wondering if you had any insight on that.
spk10: I mean, I think that, you know, follow the money.
spk09: I think, you know, I've been involved in the energy business for 22 years now, and I've never seen a cycle in which a service provider makes a ton of money and with relatively low barriers to entry and new equipment doesn't enter the market. So yeah, this won't go on forever. There's no, as I think I said this in the last call, there's no shortage of the ability to make steel pipe or sand in the United States or frankly, to make a pressure pumping unit. It's really just time and fixing some of those issues that are plaguing, frankly, the entire world economy. So I have a lot of optimism that this in time will pass. And frankly, what I would say is that there are a lot of other risks that can That will become, you know, self-defeating to some degree. So, yes, I think that there will be a peak. Is it, you know, next year or this year? I'm not sure. You know, there are certain items that we have seen start to slow down. Things like labor take a lot of time to fix when you have these issues. But, you know, eventually, you know, capitalism is a beautiful thing. They usually do.
spk06: Right.
spk10: Great. Thanks a lot.
spk00: As a reminder, to star one on your telephone keypad if you would like to ask a question. Our next question is from Nicholas Gope with Seaport Research. Please proceed.
spk03: Hello, everyone.
spk12: Nicholas, good morning. I was curious if you could kind of expand a little bit. Looking at kind of the split of CapEx spending in 2Q, pretty big jump in Permian as kind of a split. And is that really the opportunity set? Is that where you're seeing kind of the returns are driving that CapEx, or is that kind of the rate we should expect as kind of a split between these three assets right now?
spk09: You know, Nick, we had guided, I think, 45, 45, and 10 for the year, and I looked at it yesterday, and it's about the same for an annual. I think it's just happenstance.
spk05: Yeah, I think it's just cadence of development. If I look at our ads during the quarter, you know, and looking at kind of our working interest between the Permian and the Williston, you know, our average working interest in North Dakota was around 8%, whereas our Permian was around 18%. Got it.
spk12: Okay. That's all I had. I think most of everything else has been asked. Thanks, guys.
spk10: Sure you don't want to ask another one?
spk00: There are no more questions at this time, so I would like to turn the conference back over to management for closing comments.
spk09: Thank you all for joining us today. We very much appreciate your interest, and we'll see you next quarter. Thanks.
spk00: Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.
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