FiscalNote Holdings, Inc. Class A common stock

Q2 2023 Earnings Conference Call

8/9/2023

spk05: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Abby and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the fiscal note second quarter 2023 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded and all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during that time, simply press the star key followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one a second time. Thank you. And I will now turn the conference over to Sarah Buda, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin.
spk04: Hi, everyone. Welcome to the fiscal note Q2 2023 earnings call. During this call, we may make certain statements related to our business that are forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. These statements are not guarantees of future performance, but rather are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties. Our actual results could differ materially from expectations reflected in any forward-looking statements. For a discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to our SEC filings available on the SEC's EDGAR system and our website, as well as the risks and other important factors discussed in today's earnings release. Additionally, non-GAAP financial measures and other KPIs will be discussed on this conference call. Please refer to the tables on our earnings release and the investor relations portions of our website for a reconciliation of these measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measure. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Fiscal Notes Chairman, CEO, and co-founder, Tim Huang.
spk06: Thank you, Sarah. On today's call, we review our second quarter results, our outlook for the remainder of the year, and discuss our durable, compounding revenue, strong gross margins, and the macro trends driving our business. I'll also talk about our Q3 guidance and our expectation to reach the inflection point of adjusted EBITDA profitability in Q3 a quarter earlier than expected. This will be a tremendous milestone for the company and reflects the hard work of the entire fiscal note team to be able to achieve this ahead of schedule. I'll also touch on our positive growth trends, particularly with our enterprise accounts, as we innovate around new products and customer segments. I'll then turn it over to our CFO, John Slabaugh, to talk about the details of our financials as we continue to deliver on our strategy as a profitable, long-term growth compounder. Let me start with a very brief reminder of our mission here at Fiscal Note and the value we bring to more than 5,000 customers every single day. At Fiscal Note, we're on a mission to help our customers make sense of the complicated and constantly changing world we live in by delivering a proprietary AI-enabled platform that aggregates and organizes regulatory, political, and macroeconomic information and analyzes the impact on their organizations. Changes in policies, regulations, and laws impact the decision-making of almost every organization around the world. With our proprietary AI capabilities, we aggregate, synthesize, and analyze mass amounts of legislative, policy, regulatory, and macroeconomic data and information around the world, and provide actionable intelligence to customers in a subscription model. As such, we're building an enduring company for the world's most important and influential decision makers. From hundreds of government agencies and public sector customers, from the Department of Defense, the White House, every member of the House and the Senate and the U.S. Congress, the Federal Reserve, and public sector organizations in Europe and Asia, to major corporate customers, including more than half the Fortune 100. These customers rely on physical notes every day to discover, process, and navigate the impact of government policymaking on their organizations, and more importantly, to take actions which achieve their business objectives and minimize political and economic risk. This forms the basis of our durable and long-term growth. We have become an increasingly mission-critical and ubiquitous Bloomberg terminal of political, legislative, and regulatory information at the local, state, federal, and global levels. The same way that other information companies, such as S&P Global, IHS Market, FactSet, Morningstar, CoStar, and Avalara, have innovated in their respective information fields, FiscalNet continues to deliver mission-critical information that has a direct impact on our customers' operations. We've invested tens of millions of dollars and almost 10 years building a defensible combination of data, intelligence, and AI technology to collect, synthesize, and make sense of an exploding pace and volume of dynamic, unstructured, regulatory, political, and legal information around the world, and the software flows to help our customers respond. With our AI pedigree and our vast array of validated trusted data, we are in a unique position and have a clear competitive advantage. Now, let me start with a summary of our strong Q2 results in our ongoing momentum as we reach the inflection point of adjusted EBITDA profitability next quarter and beyond. In Q2, we delivered another strong quarter of growth with revenue of $32.8 million. This marks an increase of 21% year over year and is yet again consistent with the guidance we provided. We continue to benefit from our recurring revenue streams from a diverse customer base of thousands of organizations that renew their contracts year after year. We also enjoy consistent high gross profit margins. Q2 adjusted gross profit margins were 80% in the quarter. These margins are a hallmark of fiscal node and stem from our SaaS business model, AI pedigree, and data rich products, all of which form the basis for strong free cash flow in the future. On the bottom line, our second quarter adjusted EBITDA loss was 4.3 million, also in line with guidance. Most importantly, we are pulling forward our profitability goals with an expectation for adjusted EBITDA profitability in Q3. Further, through a combination of ongoing growth, high gross margins, and a diligent focus on cost management, we expect to continuously build on our adjusted EBITDA profitability and generate free cash flow in the near future. Our cash position at the end of the quarter was $38.1 million, and we have $94 million of additional debt capacity subject to conditions. We continue to have sufficient capital to fund our growth, and as we've stated, we are fully capitalized and do not require any additional capital raises to fund operations. Turning to managing KPIs, we delivered run rate revenue of $135 million. Our ARR was $120 million, growth of 16% year-on-year total and growth of 7% on a pro forma basis. We expect ARR to continue to ramp through the year as it usually does in Q3 and Q4 as per the seasonal buying cycles of our business. Our net revenue retention was 98%. John will provide details on all our Q2 financials and KPIs, as well as our outlook for the second half, which, as many of you know, is seasonally our strongest new booking, renewal, and revenue quarters. He will also walk you through our guidance for accelerating adjusted EBITDA profitability in Q3. Overall, our revenue growth rate and our net revenue retention rate remain strong and trend higher than most other information services companies, given the mission-critical solutions we deliver for our customers, our ability to continuously innovate, our proven recurring revenue model, and our successful cross-sell and up-sell strategies. And we are reaching a just EBITDA profitability ahead of schedule. As we look to the full year, we provided guidance for 2023 gap revenue to be $136 million to $138 million, representing 20% to 21% year-over-year growth, consistent with the range of previously provided guidance, with a more narrow range to reflect the increased visibility of the second half of the year. We also expect run rate revenue of $143 million to $150 million for the year, an updated range driven in part to the company's decisions to sunset revenue for select unprofitable products and take other actions to optimize long-term profitable growth. We expect ongoing adjusted EBITDA profitability growth from next quarter moving forward and over time to achieve industry normative adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow margin in line with other information services companies in the long term. Our guidance and continued performance are driven by our compounding revenue growth, strong recurring revenue, high revenue retention, and high gross margin profile. Now, let me touch on some favorable dynamics that serve as a backdrop for our growth in the second half and position us for accelerating growth in the long term. First is the large market opportunity we operate in and our unique position in the sector. Increasing regulatory, geopolitical, and macroeconomic and operational risks are top concerns among CEOs and leaders of government organizations alike. New regulations from the US to the EU to China often quickly extend from local to global, creating large regulatory complexity that spreads globally, particularly around issues such as semiconductors, the transition to the new energy economy, crypto assets regulations, the Data Act, and climate change legislation, with significant variation in how and when each region adopts and implements these regulations. This, in turn, creates uncertainty for all organizations and significant top line and bottom line impact for companies that operate globally. Without fiscal note, organizations face a manual, complex, and expensive and inefficient process for tracking, assessing, and taking action on regulations and geopolitical issues. We believe that this remains a large global market opportunity. We spent the last decade applying proprietary AI expertise to structure, normalize, analyze, and digitize vast amounts of regulatory, legal, macroeconomic, and geopolitical information, and to embed workflows that make data useful and actionable for our customers. This forms the basis of our market leadership position and is the underpinning of our durable growth strategy. As we said, we serve three primary groups of customers, government organizations, corporate enterprises, and non-government associations. Among these, large enterprises have been our largest, fastest-growing customer base. Our large enterprise and strategic accounts deliver NRR rates well above our company average and more closely aligned with market-leading software companies. Here, we have a strong record of land and expand growth as we add new data sets, products, and users across the customer's organization. From a large energy company who is extending their fiscal and coverage across 50 states into additional priority global markets, to a new opportunity with a large healthcare company that is evaluating our premium global policy dashboard offering, to our ongoing expansion with a large e-commerce company who is using fiscal to monitor policy changes across 40 countries and are now adding new issue areas. All of these are exciting growth opportunities in our large enterprise customer base. Of course, this strong mid-teens organic growth from large enterprises is supplemented by our solid base of revenue from foreign and U.S.-based government organizations as well as non-government associations, where we have many relationships dating back decades from some of our acquisitions. All of this reflects our ongoing success as a compounding growth company with a broad and diverse customer base against the backdrop of increasing global complexity and uncertainty that we believe only Fiscalone can address with their unique and proprietary products and data sets. Additionally, Fiscalone is constantly searching for new customer segments that drive growth as well. As an example, the European market stands as one of our most regulated markets on the planet, and yet only 14% of revenue comes from this market. We are at the beginning stages of our European expansion, and I believe that similar to other large scale information services leaders, we can build a business that can rival the size of our North American business with just our current products today. This brings me to our second area of growth, new AI products and solutions. We are introducing a series of new products that create clear upside for our land and expand opportunity, not just with an enterprise account, but also our large government customers. The first is Risk Connector. a new internally developed risk intelligence solution that enables enterprises to reveal operational, relational, and reputational risk. Risk Connector brings the power of our proprietary data and AI capabilities to map relationships and identify risks within an organization's supply chain, as well as the organization's customers, investors, partners, and any other vectors through which a risk can materialize. This empowers large organizations in the private and public sectors to anticipate, understand, quantify, and track risks emanating from their operation and their full web of relationships in a way that current solutions cannot. Only a few weeks after public launch, we already have several active proposals in market with large enterprises. We are delighted with the early momentum of this new product, which exemplifies our AI leadership and our unrelenting commitment to innovation that delivers customer value. We are accelerating our AI leadership in other ways as well. In addition to our recent partnerships with OpenAI and barred by Google, in Q2, we established a collaboration with Microsoft to develop a plugin for Microsoft's new AI-powered Bing. This enables Bing customers to access select physical data sets and content. Like other partnerships and collaborations, this enables physical to capture critical insights in how users engage generative models, understand political and regulatory information, which in turn allows us to bring new value to our customers who trust and have confidence in physical data and information as a critical component to their operations. Our integrations with large language model providers like Microsoft and Google complement and extend our own proprietary AI, which has been a cornerstone of our business for over the past decade. One of the most recent AI advances is Fiscal and GPT, which we developed internally. Fiscal and GPT was built leveraging the decade-long investment in AI, ML, and NLP in the legal industry. drawing on the company's existing operations in data ingestion, collection, cleansing, and curation to pull an extensive archive of legal and regulatory data sets from around the world. Despite major advances in AI and the use of large language models in the technology industry, further domain-specific systems are needed to advance the use cases of these models into industry domains. FiscalEd has developed a domain-specific approach to fiscal and GPT to specifically address the unique complexity that exists in the legal and regulatory world and believes that as it further develops Fiscal Note GPT, it will become critical for customers across the legal, policy, and regulatory industry with the application and development into the broader industry. Among its initial capabilities, Fiscal Note assists customers by identifying pressing policy and regulatory concerns, generating new insights and recommendations, summarizing timely and relevant issues, and finding pertinent answers and information from thousands of current and updated databases, which facilitate access to the company's comprehensive data and insights and content. Fiscal Note plans to incorporate Fiscal Note GPT into its continuous innovation roadmap to support customers and deliver new AI-driven capabilities in its workflow and data solutions. In addition to assisting Fiscal Note's core products in improving the experience of existing Fiscal Note customers, such as question-answer systems, summarization, and sentiment analysis, Fiscal Note plans to leverage Fiscal Note GPT for key partnerships with other legal and regulatory data and software companies, and find new revenue streams via APIs to advance the use of its models in the broader industry and by unlocking the full power of its data and AI. Fiscalone GPT represents a major advancement to leverage its domain-specific datasets to adapt and train a large language model for the legal and regulatory world. As we look at the depth and breadth of our AI leadership, our opportunities for growth have never been more clear. From new market expansion opportunities like Risk Connector, to our selection as a partner for the world's most prominent AI companies, to our own fiscal and GPT products. Our broad and deep AI expertise in legal policy regulatory data is advancing our leadership position and providing incremental new growth opportunities. As a result, Fiscal is now positioned better than ever and better than anyone to be a category creator which consistently innovates to turn insights into actions, convert challenges into opportunities, and mitigate risk to protect operations. Finally, I want to touch on our go-to-market strategy and organization. Under the leadership of our new chief revenue officer, who joined us at the beginning of the year, we have conducted a deep analysis of our go-to-market strategy. Over the past few months, we have aligned our sales teams to ensure we are focusing our efforts and allocating talent to capitalize on our highest growth products, our most productive sales talent, and our strongest growth sectors. Our newly formed strategic accounts team is already generating a number of new large-scale opportunities with significant potential. We have developed premium offerings which are now contributing to the pipeline. We are building new partnerships that will help us secure large-scale, multi-year government relationships that could be transformative to our growth. While we have chosen to execute on the sales realignment rapidly, and as these changes take root, they position us well for profitable mid-teens organic growth year after year. Similarly, we are also making some strategic decisions around which products and offerings have the greatest potential for long-term, profitable growth. And in some cases, making hard decisions around products we feel are not representative of the growth and profitability that we expect. We have been dynamic in our allocation of capital, including sunsetting of our underperforming products, and we have adapted our expectations for 2023 run rate revenue accordingly. We believe that with our new product development capabilities, AI leadership, and sales realignment, the long-term opportunity we are creating for ourselves outweighs any near-term impact. Like all great market leaders, we need to remain steadfast in our strategy, innovate for our future growth, and make decisions that ensure we are allocating capital and resources to the highest, most profitable growth opportunities in the long term. In sum, as leaders, we are constantly innovating around new customer segments, new product lines, and new offerings, so we can expand the value we deliver toward thousands of customers each day. We enter the second half with a strongly aligned sales team that is positioned to capitalize on our growth potential. We continue to deliver compounding, durable, recurring revenue. We are positioning the company for re-accelerating growth and industry normative profit margins in the long term. Before I turn over to John, let me put a finer point on our accelerating adjusted EBITDA profitability. As a leadership team, we are highly focused on deploying the right operating model and cost structure to position the business for long-term, profitable, durable growth. The cost realignment program we outlined in our last call is starting to take shape. Our sales and marketing teams are now aligned in support growth. Our GNA is built with opportunity for efficiencies. Our R&D expenses are benefiting from our unique and defensible AI, which results in faster time to market and more efficient product innovation. We continue to execute on our cost actions that allow us to optimize our operating model and reduce our cost structure. This is enabling us to pull forward our profitability goals and achieve adjusted EBITDA profitability in Q3, a quarter earlier than anticipated. And based on our guidance for Q4, we will exit the year with adjusted EBITDA margins at or approaching double digits. a remarkable improvement from when we entered 2023. I am proud of the hard work of the physical team that makes this milestone possible. In sum, our model is simple. We take our customers from the previous year, renew them, and upsell those customers with new products and capabilities that grow our business while simultaneously adding new customers each year. Because of our 80% adjusted gross margin profile and our ongoing focus on OpEx cost management, this model also drives significant operating leverage. leading to adjusted EBITDA profitability in Q3, double-digit adjusted EBITDA margins exiting the year, and free cash flows soon thereafter. Looking ahead at scale, we expect to deliver the margin and cash flow model similar to other sector-specific leaders in information services, which, on average, typically drive free cash flow margins well north of 20%. In summary, we're executing on the opportunities in front of us today, improving our compounding growth model. Our business is underpinned by a large, growing macro environment of regulatory, geopolitical, macroeconomic, and operational uncertainty that continues to generate durable demand for our products. Our foundation of recurring revenue, high adjusted gross profit margins, and strong operational leverage is allowing us to achieve adjusted EBITDA profitability earlier than expected and drive ongoing profit growth moving forward. We have aligned our sales teams and operational structure to capitalize on our growth opportunity and accelerate growth in the long term. As leaders, we are 100% focused on building a durable, profitable, compounding growth company that provides unique value to the world's most important decision makers and scaling this business to $200, $300, $500 million, a billion in recurring revenue and beyond. Now, let me turn it over to John for details on the financials and our outlook going forward.
spk00: Thank you, Tim, and good morning. I'm going to spend some time providing further details on the quarter. I'll also discuss what to expect in terms of financial performance for this year. Let me start with revenue. Second quarter gap revenue was $32.8 million, marking year-over-year growth of 21%. On an organic basis, gap revenue grew 10% year-over-year and 8% on a non-gap basis after excluding the deferred revenue adjustment impacting 2022. We continue to deliver solid organic growth complemented by accretive strategic tuck-in acquisitions. This has been our track record, and we expect to continue this revenue performance moving forward. Second quarter subscription revenue, which makes up 90% of our total revenue, was $29.5 million. This is an increase of 21% from a year ago and 9% on an organic basis, excluding the non-cash deferred revenue adjustment in 2022. Once again, showing our strong recurring revenue model. Our advisory and other revenue is $3.4 million, a $500,000 increase year over year. We exited Q2 with run rate revenue of $135 million in total, marking 17% year over year growth. Run rate revenue is defined as ARR plus non-subscription revenue earned during the past 12 months. It is a key management metric and serves as a baseline for subsequent quarters and beyond. On an organic basis, run rate revenue is $126 million, reflecting 6% growth on a pro forma basis as defined in our press release. NRR, or net revenue retention for the quarter, is approximately 98%. As we've said, NRR rates are highest among large enterprise accounts. Enterprise and strategic accounts now represent our largest, fastest-growing, highest retention customer group. We have recently taken steps to allocate more sales and marketing resources to large strategic accounts and expect this to drive increasing total NRR. We grew total annual recurring revenue, or ARR, to $120 million as of June 30, an increase of 16% compared to the same period in 2022. Organic ARR, as defined, was $113 million as a quarter end. This represents a 6% growth rate when compared to our ARR in Q2 of last year on a pro forma basis. As we've said, we anticipate the most ARR growth will take place in the second half of the year, reflecting our usual seasonality. Looking at gross profit, we continue to enjoy strong margins. Our Q2 gross profit was $23.4 million, representing a 71% margin. Our second quarter non-GAAP adjusted gross profit was $26.4 million, representing an 80% gross profit margin after adjusting for amortization. Our adjusted gross profit margins remain consistently high in the 80% range quarter after quarter. Total operating expenses excluding the cost of revenue grew approximately $4.6 million year-over-year, excluding non-cash stock-based compensation expenses. Of that, acquisitions accounted for approximately $2 million in the year-over-year increase. Sequentially from last quarter, total operating expenses declined about $2 million, excluding non-cash stock-based compensation and other non-cash expenses. Within OPEX, sales and marketing costs were $11.7 million for the quarter, an increase of $1.3 million year-over-year largely due to acquisitions, but a decrease of $600,000 from last quarter as we realign the sales structure as Tim referenced. R&D expenses were $4.5 million, a $700,000 increase from last year, but a reduction of about $600,000 from Q1, due in part to increased efficiencies. Editorial costs were approximately $4.8 million, a $1.4 million increase year over year, partially driven by acquisitions, and relatively flat from last quarter. G&A expenses for the quarter were $16.2 million, an increase of $6 million from a year ago, largely driven by an increase in non-cash stock-based comp expense of approximately $4 million. Excluding non-cash stock-based comp, G&A was approximately $11.6 million, an increase of about $2 million year over year, largely due to public company costs. Looking sequentially from Q1, G&A declined by almost $1 million, reflecting some benefit from our cost reduction plans, Q1 expense seasonality, and lower stock-based comp expense. The operating loss for Q1 was $17 million in total. This includes $6 million of stock-based comp. Our total interest expense was $7.2 million. Of this, cash interest expense was $5.2 million, which is a good proxy for our quarterly cash interest expense going forward, depending on rates. We also recorded a non-cash loss of $3.5 million related to our exchange agreement with GPO. a pre-listing note holder. In this agreement, we canceled a number of shares held by GPO in exchange for issuing a deed note under the terms previously disclosed. The gap net loss for Q2 was $30.9 million, which is reconciled to our adjusted EBITDA loss of $4.3 million in our press release. Our balance sheet remained solid with $38.1 million of cash and cash equivalents as of June 30th. We have sufficient capital to fund operations and support our growth initiatives. Our operating expense reduction plan is driving $9 to $10 million in in-year cost savings in 2023 and annualized savings of $18 to $20 million. These actions helped improve our adjusted EBITDA in Q2. Given our positive trajectory, we have pulled forward our profitability goal. Fiscal note will now reach the inflection point of adjusted EBITDA profitability in Q3. one quarter ahead of previous guidance. This brings me to our guidance. For Q3, we expect revenue of $34 to $35 million, and we expect positive adjusted EBITDA of $200,000 to $1 million. This is an improvement over our prior guidance to be roughly breakeven in Q3. For the full year, we are providing guidance, including gap revenue of $136 to $138 million. marking growth of 20 to 21% year over year, including the acquisition of Dragonfly. This is consistent with our prior range and more narrow to reflect our current visibility. Run rate revenue of $143 million to $150 million, representing growth of 13 to 18% over 2022, inclusive of Dragonfly. This is a slightly lower range than previously provided Due to our decision to sunset unprofitable products, they are not achieving sufficient revenue conversion to merit continued investment and the short-term impact of a decision to realign the sales team for greater efficiency and increased focus on large enterprises. Ultimately, these decisions position the company to accelerate long-term profitable growth. We expect adjusted gross margins to continue at approximately 80%. a full-year adjusted EBITDA loss between $8 and $6 million. As Tim mentioned, our year-end guidance implies a positive adjusted EBITDA margin of 7% to 12% in the fourth quarter, a remarkable improvement from the first quarter. We look forward to reporting these results early in 2024. As we continue to deliver strong 80% adjusted gross profit margins, leverage the operating platform we have in place, and continue to manage our costs, we expect to drive strong conversion of incremental revenue to adjusted EBITDA. As we reach the inflection point of adjusted EBITDA profitability, operating leverage will enable us to deliver positive free cash flow margins in the coming quarters. Our lenders remain flexible and are supportive of the company's focused strategic acquisition program. We have approximately $94 million of debt capacity subject to certain conditions. We will continue to pursue selective M&A opportunities that are accretive to growth and profitability. And of course, given our stock price, we are focused on transaction structures heavily weighted to earn outs and structured stock consideration with terms that give long-term upside with minimal dilution. In closing, Management continues to deliver compounding top-line growth as we drive to become a profitable business, providing mission-critical solutions to the world's most important decision makers. There are secular trends propelling our business and creating sustainable demand. We continue to leverage our investments in AI to drive new growth opportunities and drive efficiencies throughout the organization. With recurring revenue, strong adjusted gross margins, and ongoing cost management, we are Pulling forward our adjusted EBITDA expectations, they now expect to be adjusted EBITDA profitable in Q3, a quarter earlier than expected. And we have the operational structure and capital to scale fiscal note and drive long-term value. With that, I will now open up the call to questions. Operator.
spk05: Thank you. At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star and then the number one on your telephone keypad. And we will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. And we will take our first question from Mike Lattimore with Northland Capital Market. Your line is open.
spk10: Great, thanks a lot. Yeah, congrats on the strong results and outlook here. You know, as you look to the second half of the year here, you know, bookings obviously tend to be higher than first half. I guess the pipeline coverage relative to your expectations, how is that looking? How does it compare to prior years?
spk00: Hi, Mike. It's John. Thanks for the question. Regarding pipeline, I've got Josh Resnick here, and he works closely with Rich, and I'll let him take that question.
spk03: Yeah. Hey, Mike, thanks for the question. So yeah, pipeline so far into Q3 is looking promising. We, you know, as we've talked about, we've made some changes in the sales organization, which we think are going to be driving higher productivity, both in terms of how the teams work and in terms of the sectors that we're focused on. So right now we're feeling good about where we're heading for the second half.
spk10: Great. And within that, pipeline maybe can you talk a little bit about the uh the vertical mix is it does it look more like enterprise here commercial versus government um and then also anything uh more skewed to new new logos versus upsells yeah so um it's a balance of uh private sector and public sector enterprise and public sector um we are um
spk03: you know, in a macro environment like this, it's always a little more challenging on the new logo side as compared with retention. But we're seeing, but we're still seeing all things considered some good growth on the new logo side. And sorry, Mike, but I may have lost track. What was the rest of your question?
spk10: Just wondering if the pipeline mix of new logo versus upsells has changed relative to, say, prior years?
spk03: No. I mean, it's relatively steady compared to prior years. Like I said, in this macro, new logo is always going to be a little harder than retention, but it's relatively consistent.
spk10: And then just on the risk connector, very interesting launch. How is the pipeline looking for that? What kind of deal sizes are you seeing? What kind of verticals are interested?
spk03: Yeah, so we're actually seeing a good pipeline build there and a pretty broad pipeline. The product is applicable across industries. So we're feeling good about where that's going. And we expect deal sizes to be relatively large compared to our average ACV. We've got multiple pricing tiers in play. but generally expect a lot of these deals to be six figures.
spk06: Hey, Mike, just something to kind of jump in with here. Going back to your last question, we kind of alluded to this in the earnings kind of script earlier on in the call, but we are seeing very good traction with our largest enterprises. And a lot of it is being driven by our NRR rates in that large enterprise group. So we're talking, you know, Fortune 100, Fortune 500 businesses, and are seeing quite a large amount of expansion, you know, by adding new data sets, adding new kind of capabilities onto our platform. And so, you know, even in just Q2, we saw pretty large expansionary wins pretty much across the board, you know, in retail, manufacturing, energy, healthcare, and other sectors. So as those large enterprise customers continue to compound and add new capabilities, we could expect that over time, a larger mix of our underlying revenue should be coming from those larger businesses overall.
spk10: All right. Makes sense. Thank you.
spk05: We will take our next question from Richard Baldry with Roth MKM. Your line is open.
spk07: Thanks. Can you maybe talk a little bit about on the AI side? I get the odd question where people say, well, won't AI make what they do easier at fiscal note? And I think the obvious answer is no, but I think hearing it from you will probably help alleviate any confusion around that.
spk06: Yeah, yeah. So the way we think about it is two fronts, right? So can we automate some of the things that we're doing already within our operating expenses using AI? And so there are areas, for instance, in customer acquisition or in data acquisition, things like that, where we're retooling some of our internal kind of capabilities. You know, specifically with an R&D, I think that, you know, we have seen our market leadership extend ourselves largely because of the partnerships we've executed with, you know, OpenAI's ChatGPT, Google Bard, Microsoft Bing, so on and so forth. And those things sort of enable us to be able to reduce our R&D expenses by sharing the load with these large language models and the like. And so that's why you're seeing you know, this reduction in R&D expense relative to operating expenses. Now, those are all sort of obviously nice to have some things and obviously drive some level of profitability, but at the end of the day, we need to build a great business. And a great business is determined by having a great product. And so, You know, for us, that, you know, you can sort of see that in, for instance, the launch of physical and GPT, where we're combining all of our data, the decade-long investment that we have in legal and regulatory information, and then the ability to be able to kind of combine that with our own language models to be able to create things like question-answer systems, summarization capabilities, and other things that are unlocking new capabilities overall. So it is this combination of sort of reducing operating expenses and also creating new capabilities that I think are just unparalleled in terms of the ability to be able to create these types of capabilities overall.
spk07: And you talk about whether this rapidly emerging AI thing and a lot of technology shifts going on, do you think that's causing any confusion that's slowing sales cycle or do you think it's just broadening the sales pipeline because people are sort of more interested now in these types of solutions?
spk06: I think that we are adding value to the customers that we have today and also expanding what we're capable of doing to new customers, right? So our existing customers are going to benefit from these new capabilities, right? The ability to provide summaries and create automated insights and things like that. You know, the ability, for instance, to fill up a Word document and automatically populate an entire summary of regulatory context immediately. But at the same time, these capabilities are also enabling us to create new products. So Risk Connector is a great example. At FiscalNote, we historically have not played in the supply chain analytics and software market, and now we are, because we can leverage the data that we have, create new software, and enter the market supporting a new buyer within the enterprise, folks who focus on sustainability, focus on supply chain risk, and so on and so forth. It's the combination of AI carbon innovation that drives new total dressable markets that drive, you know, really new revenue opportunities for us overall.
spk07: And you called out the sort of mismatch between how over-regulated Europe may be versus the contribution of revenue. So how do you feel about your international sales capacities, whether, you know, headcounts, efficiencies they've gotten up to, the reach they've got, and do you think you're even where you're being careful on costs, you'd be adding over there. Thanks.
spk06: We are definitely in the early stages of growth in Europe and Asia. And I'll let Josh kind of compound on this a little bit. But, you know, as I mentioned, you know, 13, 14% of our revenue today comes from the European market. A substantially lower portion of that comes from Asia. You know, we are expanding, you know, definitely in each of the country markets and European markets. You know, obviously, you know, we're in the early stages, and so we're still building infrastructure and capacity, but we're doing it in a very thoughtful way that drives sustainable compounding growth and enables us to sort of build that long-term infrastructure. But I don't know, Josh, if there's anything else you wanted to add on your end.
spk03: Yeah, sure, Tim. I can just add that, generally speaking, we are seeing strong demand for our products in Europe, in Asia. We see a lot of opportunity for growth there, both organically and inorganically over time. We have strong bases of operations in both areas. We have offices throughout Europe and Asia, including Korea, Singapore, Australia. And so we see a lot of opportunity there, and we expect to take advantage of that in a very strong way.
spk07: Great. Thanks, and congrats on the profitability improvements.
spk05: And we will take our next question from Matt VanVleet with BTIG. Your line is open.
spk01: Yeah, thanks. Appreciate the time this morning. Just maybe one more on a little bit of additional commentary on the AI front. Obviously, it's been embedded in the platform in a number of ways, and it's really sort of the engine that drives all this. But as you look at something like fiscal note GPT, Do you expect to have more sort of directly generative AI or other kind of AI-focused products to delineate the fact that this is a way to monetize something you have tremendous expertise in? We see the partnerships with Google and OpenAI. Or is this kind of the extent of what you'd expect on a product roadmap and really is kind of leaning into just further embedding it in more functionality across the existing customer or the product portfolio?
spk06: Yeah, so, you know, just to touch base a little bit on that fiscal and GPT point. So we're very excited by fiscal and GPT. It's the first proprietary platform incorporating generative AI and large language models for legislative, statutory, regulatory, and policy information. And like other, you know, generative AI systems, You know, the interaction with customers are such that it enables them to identify emerging concerns or generate new insights, summarize timely issues. We view these things in the long term as table stakes. They need to be embedded in our platforms because customers are going to expect it. I do think that fiscal and GPT is an interesting opportunity in the sense that it is a platform in and of itself. And so the ability, for instance, to leverage our language models for instance, in partnership with other software companies, for them to be able to leverage our APIs, for them to be able to build new applications on top of it. Those are all new capabilities and new revenue streams that we see in the mid to long term. And so it's not just the platform and the applications that we're delivering for our customers, but what we're doing with this product launch essentially is creating a new technology platform around the legal and regulatory capabilities for other partners in the ecosystem to kind of participate in overall.
spk01: Okay, very helpful. And then as you look at the products, you talked about sunsetting, any specifics you can share around either which products or maybe more importantly, you know, kind of what the exact revenue impact is this year versus the previous plan and maybe more importantly, How does this impact growth or how much of a headwind to growth does it present in fiscal 24? Understanding that focusing resources is key here, but just kind of wanting to make sure we're adjusting our forward models appropriately.
spk06: Yeah, so I'll kind of start off and then I'll pass over to John and Josh here. But what I would say philosophically is that at our company, we look at every single product line and line it up against gross margin, EBITDA impact, growth potential, and then we dynamically allocate capital. So in our case, mostly people and technology resources against the products that grow the fastest and have the most profitability potential. So from time to time, what we're going to do is we're obviously going to reallocate capital into things that we're seeing are growing faster in the market. So for instance, if we saw a risk connector was growing very, very quickly, we'd pull sales and marketing R&D resources off of different products and throw it into Risk Connector to try and drive more growth and more profitability. And so we do have a high degree of visibility on GAAP revenues on an ongoing basis, and that's largely because of the way that we recognize revenue. But sunsetting different product lines or allocating capital on different product lines will probably create some level of variability on run rate revenue, largely because of the way that we kind of recognize ARR and the like. And so I do think that, you know, we are going to continue to be very dynamic. But as we said before, you know, the focus that we've had on profitability overrides everything at the current moment. We're trying to drive that double-digit EBITDA margin. I've grown to the future. But I don't know, Josh, John, if you wanted to add anything else on your end.
spk00: Sure, I'll put a little bit of a finer point on it. Matt, you know, we made the disclosures around the impairment charge we took on equilibrium ESG product. We feel like our ESG portfolio is strong and still think that's a growth area for the business long term, but that benchmarking tool just didn't have the traction that we wanted to see. So we decided to kind of focus in other areas. That will have, you know, an impact. which is partially a contributor to why we narrowed the runway revenue range for the end of the year, but ultimately feel like the realignment of the sales force generally focusing on large enterprise will make up for that and more as we drive forward and get back into kind of the long-term growth profile that we want to see.
spk02: All right, great. Thank you.
spk05: We'll take our next question from Rudy Kessinger with DA Davidson. Your line is open.
spk09: Great. Thank you. I want to dig into the assumptions in the guide in the second half. What are you assuming as far as closed rates and sales productivity? Are you assuming improvement on metrics such as that? It's just that the guide continues to look fairly aggressive in terms of showing an acceleration in growth on a year-over-year basis. You're about the only public software company that I'm aware of that's guiding to that in the second half of this year.
spk00: Thanks, Rudy. And what I'll say is we look closely at prior years as precedent to determine what we expect the close rates to be in this third and fourth quarters. We've put forward a range based on kind of the midpoint of what we saw in the prior two years and feel like the pipeline coverage, as Josh talked about, kind of validates those assumptions and can monitor closely as we go forward.
spk09: Okay. And then just on cash flow or cash burn in the second half, how should we think about that relative to Hubot that's got about $10.5 million in cash interest expense in the second half, or maybe put differently, where do you envision your cash balance bottoming?
spk00: The seasonality of the cash is such that, you know, kind of the end of December is a low point, and we have significant collections in the first quarter. And we see that kind of being no different this year. I don't, you know, we're looking at cash models pretty closely, but haven't really provided any kind of specific guidance around the cash balance at the end of the year. But I feel like it's certainly adequate to meet all the requirements we have, provide a level of safety and security as we operate going forward, and we'll continue to rebuild in Q1 of next year. Obviously, as part of this, you know, our filings, we look closely at, you know, going forward cash positions and, you know, comfortable with where we stand.
spk02: Got it. Thank you. That's it for me.
spk05: And as a reminder, it is Star 1 if you would like to ask a question. And we will take our next question from Mike Albanese with E.F. Hutton. Your line is open.
spk02: Yeah, thanks for taking my question. Just kind of want to build off the last regarding cash, cash burn, and then this kind of relates to, I guess, the product pipeline as well. But, you know, obviously you've launched a number of new products, you know, new partnerships and additional patent wins. Essentially, you know, you're continually innovating. I mean, what can you tell us as that relates to kind of your capital expenditure and R&D moving forward, and maybe you can give us a little bit more color in your expectations into the back half of the year, into 2024.
spk00: So our cash capital expenses have been running kind of in the neighborhood of $2 million per quarter. We don't really foresee that increasing, and it may actually kind of remain flat or decrease a little bit over time. We are capstone in a number of kind of internal projects that we've been working on over the last 18 months. I feel like as we bring those to market, the expenses will begin to kind of come down. Obviously, we've given some guidance around the cash interest expense as well. Other than that, those are kind of the two big ones. And then as a source of cash, we look at growing subscription income as a source of additional cashes, deferred revenue balances continue to increase. Is that what you're looking for, Mike?
spk02: Yeah, that's helpful. And then just lastly, and this is more of a general question here, obviously you moved up. Your expectations of profitability, or at least on an adjusted EBITDA basis, by a quarter, you know, it seems like the cost-cutting initiatives have been going well. I mean, any general takeaways or any major learnings as you got a chance to really take a look under the hood over the last three quarters here?
spk00: I'll let Josh really dig into the details here, but I think it's been a good process for us to go through. It gave us an opportunity to kind of look through the multiple acquisitions we did for ways to bring efficiency to the organization. We also focused on some of the legacy operations and ways to integrate more seamlessly, and we'll continue to do that going forward. Josh, I don't know if you want to add on to that.
spk03: Yeah, sure, John. Yeah, so, Mike, I mean, it's really been top-to-bottom review of our entire organization and all our operations. And as Tim said before, it's about a realignment around sustainable and profitable growth. And so, you know, it's been a matter of shifting resources to areas of highest potential, enterprise being a core segment for us, but also the new products that we've launched like Risk Connector, and then being willing to very quickly and decisively make decisions on other products that aren't in line with that profitable growth profile that we're seeking. We've made changes throughout in terms of how the teams operate, leveraging technology and AI to operate more efficiently. realigning teams, and really shifting our entire operational model throughout. And I think that it is providing us with a better platform for growth for the future in addition to driving that profitability.
spk02: Got it. Well said. Thank you for taking my questions, and, you know, congrats on a nice quarter. Thank you.
spk05: And we will take our final question from Zach Cummins with B Reilly Securities. Your line is open.
spk08: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Can you just build a little bit more upon kind of the reallocation of resources within the Salesforce? Kind of what were really some of the key changes that you made in terms of go-to-market approach and kind of what you've been seeing from those incremental changes here in the last couple of months?
spk03: Sure. This is Josh. I can take that. So, as we've discussed, a lot of shift to enterprise, so adding a new strategic accounts team to go after the largest accounts, shifting some resources away from smaller accounts like SMB. We have realigned our account management and customer success teams to better drive retention and upsell, cross-sell. We have been much more rigorous in performance management and optimizing headcount throughout the organization. We've also focused a lot on improved sales operations and sales enablement. So having that kind of operational engine behind it, being really finely tuned to be able to drive the entirety of the organization forward. And, you know, having our new chief revenue officer come in and establish a really strong leadership over the organization and a real direction towards scaling the profitable growth that we've talked about. And I'll add to, you know, while we've gone through a significant amount of change already, we still have initiatives underway around optimizing things like pricing, bundling, and packaging the products to even, you know, further drive growth and further drive that upsell and cross-sell. continuing to improve our efforts on account management, customer success, and then leaning further into things like partnership strategy, which Tim spoke about earlier and we've talked about previously with things like our relationship with Paraton. We're already seeing some traction and continuing to go further into partnerships as well.
spk08: Understood. And final question for me really is just around kind of overall customer sentiment. I mean, have you seen any material change in terms of buying patterns from especially kind of your enterprise customers and government agencies here the last couple of months, maybe versus what you saw beginning of this year, end of last year?
spk03: Yeah, I would say that, you know, in terms of what we've seen in terms of sentiment, I would say on the enterprise side in particular, we, you know, continue to see, you know, consistent with what we've talked about in past quarters. We've continued to see some budget challenges, you know, and some elongated sales cycles for that reason. Overall, we're seeing a lot of strength and resilience in our core policy products and in our community offerings. We're seeing strong demand for our security intelligence out of Dragonfly. A lot of interest, as I mentioned before, across the board, you know, across sectors in Risk Connector. So, we're seeing large enterprises are having increasing concerns. about vulnerabilities in their supply chains and the risk associated with it. And I'd say we're also seeing enterprises turn to us for combined intelligence that we can offer around geopolitical, macroeconomic, and security issues, because those are all intertwined for a large enterprise. And so we have clients who are focused on, you know, we have a large Fortune 500 global manufacturer who's been concerned about tensions with China and Taiwan. And so looking at related policy implications, potential impacts from sanctions and tariffs, and looking for a macroeconomic view as to other regions where they can invest now to offset negative impacts. So bottom line is we are seeing large enterprises with a lot of concerns about what's happening globally and trying to make plans for how they can continue their growth paths going forward.
spk08: Understood. Well, thanks for taking my questions and best of luck with the rest of the quarter. Thank you.
spk05: And there are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Mr. Tim Huang for closing remarks.
spk06: Great. Thank you, everybody, for jumping on the call here. And we look forward to continuing to execute on our plan, delivering on profitability and just growing a long-term growth company business. Appreciate the time. Thank you, everybody.
spk05: This concludes today's conference call and we thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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