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spk02: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Energy, Energy, Inc. Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Kevin Cole, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk06: Thank you, Ray. Good morning and welcome to NRG Energy's second quarter 2021 earnings call. This morning's call will be 45 minutes in length and is being broadcast live over the phone and via webcast, which can be located in the investor section of our website at www.nrg.com under Presentations and Webcasts. Please note that today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements, which are based on assumptions that we believe to be reasonable as of this date. Actual results may differ materially. We urge everyone to review the safe harbor in today's presentation, as well as the risk factors in our SEC filings. We undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of future events except as required by law. In addition, we will refer to both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. For information regarding the non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, please refer to today's presentation. And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Mauricio Gutierrez, NRG's President and CEO.
spk03: Thank you, Kevin. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for your interest in NRG. I'm joined this morning by Alberto Fornaro, Chief Financial Officer. Also on the call and available for questions, we have Elizabeth Killinger, Head of Home Retail, and Chris Moser, Head of Operations. Just a few weeks ago, we hosted our Comprehensive Investor Day. Since then, we have had the opportunity to speak with many of you in detail about our strategic plan, which will position us as the leading energy consumer services company and create tremendous stakeholder value. I look forward to updating you on our progress in the coming quarters. But for this call, we will keep our remarks brief and focus on our quarterly results. Turning to slide three, I would like to start with the three key messages for today's call. Our integrated platform delivered strong results during the second quarter, up 14% compared to the same period last year. And today, we are reaffirming our 2021 guidance ranges. Next, following Winter Storm Yuri, the governor and Texas legislature acted swiftly to begin to address critical issues and improve grid reliability. The public utility and railroad commissions are now in the process of implementing these directives to strengthen both the electric and natural gas systems to improve reliability and protect customers. I want to thank the governor and the Texas legislature for their leadership on these issues. Finally, in June, we held our Investor Day focus on our long-term strategic outlook, our roadmap through 2025, and the compelling value proposition of our consumer platform. Now moving to the financial and operational results for the quarter on slide four. Beginning on the left-hand side of the slide, we again delivered top decile safety performance. This is the ninth straight quarter we have achieved top decile safety, an incredible accomplishment for the entire company. As we start to come back to the office, we will continue to adhere to the CDC guidelines to ensure the safety and well-being of our people. During the quarter, we continue to make progress on our strategic initiatives with focus on integrating direct energy, advancing our capitalized decarbonization efforts, and expanding our secondary product capabilities. Starting with the direct energy integration, through the second quarter, we achieved $89 million in synergies, or two-thirds of our 2021 target. Today, we're reaffirming both the 2021 and full plan targets. Next, we continue to perfect our customer-centric model through advancing non-core asset sales and retirements and expanding our renewable PPA strategy across all of our markets. Moving to the right-hand side of the slide, We are reporting $656 million of adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter, or 14% growth year-on-year, and $1.223 billion, or 33% growth year-to-date. Strong second quarter results were largely driven by the direct energy acquisition and favorable weather in the east, further demonstrating the value of our diversified platform of consumer services. Alberto will discuss in more detail the quarterly drivers in his section. Turning to slide five for a brief update on our core markets. Beginning on the left-hand side of the slide, following Wither's story in February, it was clear that market reforms were necessary to improve grid resilience. In the months following the event, we actively engaged in discussions with legislators, regulators, and other market participants to introduce comprehensive and competitive solutions across the entire system to address areas that fail and to ensure an event like this does not happen again. The Texas legislature acted swiftly in addressing these issues, passing Senate Bills 2 and 3, which were signed into law by the governor on June 8, focused on reliability from the wellhead to the light bulb. Importantly, Senate Bill 3 provides the Public Utility Commission Railroad Commission, and other parties the tools and mandate to get it done right. The PUCT and ERCOT are now working to implement the power market portions of the reform. We are focused on supporting them in the implementation of these policies and procedures to ensure the market functions properly in the future. We expect the focus over coming months to be on improving price formation through mechanisms to incentivize reliability. it will also establish clear winterization and maintenance outage standards and protocols for the electric system. Importantly, the PUCT is focused on customer bills and ensuring these actions do not materially impact affordability, which has been a compelling attribute of living and doing business in Texas. We believe the PUCT will be able to address the key issues of market design, system hardening, and weatherization this year for the power sector. Next, moving to the bottom left-hand side of the slide, the governor and legislature recognize the financial harm of socializing the cost of defaults by regulated entities like Brassus and Rayburn across competitive markets. The legislation also addresses unhedgeable costs due to ERCOT's management of the grid, particularly during the final 32 hours of the event. the Texas legislature passed and the governor signed into law necessary securitizations to address both default allocations and uplift charges. We expect to have greater line of sight on our costs eligible for securitization later this year. Finally, our expected net financial impact from winter storm Yuri remains unchanged at $500 to $700 million. From last quarter, Our gross impact increased by $85 million, primarily due to resettlements and bad debt, which we expect to be fully offset through our mitigation strategy. Moving to the right-hand side of the slide for an update on our ongoing portfolio and real estate optimization efforts. First, during the quarter, PJM held its first capacity auction in roughly three years. which provided disappointing results. Subsequently, given market conditions, we announced our intention to retire 1.6 gigawatts, or 55% of our PJM call generation by 2022, and the strategic review of our remaining PJM portfolio. Next, our previously announced 4.8 gigawatt asset sale remains on track to close in the fourth quarter. Finally, our portfolio repositioning and optimization is a continuous process. We are committed to our business model and will continue to provide updates on our progress. On the next two slides, I want to review some of the highlights from our investor day, beginning on slide six with our strategy and platform. This was our first investor day since 2018. And in three short years, we underwent a significant transformation, doubling the number of customers we serve, optimizing our generation fleet to serve our customers, building an efficient operating platform, and strengthening our balance sheet while returning significant excess cash to our shareholders. The acquisition of Direct Energy in January marked the next step in our journey as we completed the three-year transformation plan and began our decisive transition into a consumer services company. While historically our core product has been electricity, the addition of direct energy brought scale to our retail natural gas and services businesses. With consumers increasingly seeking a trusted partner to provide home solutions, our advantage consumer platform is uniquely positioned to meet our customer needs in ways other providers cannot match. Just yesterday, Green Mountain Energy filed an application to provide its 100 renewable electric product in Arizona. We're constantly on the lookout for new markets and to grow our service offering in existing ones. As we offer adjacent products and services, we can leverage our existing platform to access cost synergies. This economic advantage, coupled with better insights and more personalization, resulting a better experience for our customers. For NRG, this advantage means broader insights into how consumers interact with their homes, additional margin, and better retention on our core product. And then the cycle repeats as we grow, creating a more valuable business. As you can see on the right-hand side of the slide, we have provided you a roadmap of our strategic priorities through 2025. Over the near term, our focus is on optimizing our core, which includes integrating direct energy, decarbonizing our retail supply, and expanding our current dual fuel customer base. Next, beginning in 2022, our focus will shift to growing the core through residential power and home services. Finally, throughout this entire period, we will be returning significant capital to shareholders. To summarize our roadmap, we're starting with our foundation as a best-in-class integrated energy retailer. We will leverage our operating platform to become a trusted partner for power services, and then we will broaden our offerings and partnerships to become a provider of select home services. Finally, We have quantified for you what I believe is an achievable growth opportunity over the course of this strategic roadmap. In total, we have identified $720 million of incremental EBITDA growth opportunity, which will be achieved through the direct energy integration and the deployment of up to $2 billion of growth investments in both CAPEX and OPEX opportunities. This capital will be deployed to the maximum return opportunity And you can expect transparency as we begin to allocate investment dollars. Given our near-term focus on integrating direct energy and growing dual fuel customers, you should expect this capital to be weighted toward the second half of our roadmap. Now turning to slide seven. Over the course of our strategic roadmap, we expect to generate $8 billion in cumulative excess cash. which also excludes roughly half a billion dollars of excess cash still to be allocated these years. Applying our 50-50 capital allocation framework results in $4 billion return to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases, and $4 billion for opportunistic growth. We have earmarked $2 billion to achieve the $520 million incremental EBITDA detail on the prior slide. The remaining $2 billion is available to be allocated to the maximum return opportunity, whether it be growth investments or share repurchases. In summary, we outline a compelling value proposition anchored by a portfolio of favorite brands serving nearly 6 million customers. We are positioned to grow and leverage our existing operating platform to achieve higher margins and longer tenure customers. We have the financial flexibility to invest capital at attractive returns while returning significant capital to shareholders. And we have the right people and the right platform to create sustainable value for all stakeholders. So with that, I want to welcome Alberto Fornaro to the call and provide a brief introduction. Alberto joined NRG on June 1st, following an extensive CFO search. Alberto is a seasoned finance expert who brings over 30 years of experience and a unique combination of consumer, technology, manufacturing, and risk management experience. I believe Alberto's expertise is the ideal feed to enhance our transition into a consumer services company. Alberto, welcome. And I will turn it over to you for the financial review.
spk01: Thank you, Mauricio, for your kind words. And good morning, everyone. I am excited to be with you this morning and to join NRG during its transformation to become a consumer services company. Now more than ever, customer experience and engagement are key priorities for leading companies, and I feel fortunate to be part of an organization that is completely focusing on the customer to continue to grow. I look forward to the dialogue with our analysts and investment community over the months to come. Hopefully, we will be able to meet in person sometime in the near future. Moving to the quarterly results, I will now turn to slide nine for a brief review of our financials. For the quarter, NRG delivered 656 million in adjusted EBITDA, or 82 million higher than the second quarter of last year. The increase in consolidated earnings was driven by the acquisition of direct energy and the related addition of synergies achieved in Q2. Specifically by region, the East benefited from the expected contribution from the direct energy acquisition. In addition, favorable weather resulted in outperformance by both our electric and natural gas businesses. Finally, we enjoyed favorable intra-year timing of demand response revenues. Next, our Texas region partially offset these benefits due to lower residential demand, driven by milder weather and return-to-work trends, as well as to higher retail supply costs. As a reminder, we benefited last year from exceptionally low market power prices and realized during the start of the COVID-driven economic shutdown. On a year-to-date basis, our progress in terms of incremental profitability was even more significant. It demonstrates the value of our diversified consumer services platform and its ability to absorb the possible impact of headwinds, such as the current forced outage we are dealing with at Limestone Unit 1 which will extend until the year end. Our expectation for the next impact from winter storm Yuri remains at $500 to $700 million, with an $85 million increase in one-time costs, offset by a similar increase in the range of expected mitigants. This is primarily due to the positive development of the Texas securitization legislation during the quarter. The total negative cash impact is still expected to be $350 million to $550 million in 2021 and $150 million in 2022 due to the estimated bill credits owed to large commercial and industrial customers. Now, turning to direct energy integration, we are confirming our goal to achieve a run rate of $300 million synergies by 2023. We are on track to achieve 135 million of synergies for 2021, with 89 million realized year-to-date. Synergy expectations, as well as synergies achieved so far, are fully embedded, respectively, in our 2021 guidance and year-to-date actual. Overall, we are off to a great start in the first half of the year, and we are reaffirming guidance at $2.4 to $2.6 billion for adjusted EBITDA and $1.44 to $1.64 billion for free cash flow before growth. I will now turn to slide 10, where we are updating our planned 2021 capital allocations. As in the past, our practice on this slide is to highlight changes from last quarter in blue. Starting from the left, on the third column, the net capital required for the direct energy acquisition was increased by $35 million based on the latest estimate of the post-closing working capital adjustments. We anticipate finalizing the working capital adjustments during the third quarter. Moving on the next column, and as discussed on the previous slide, the midpoint for net estimated cash impact from winter storm URI remains at $450 million. This includes the increase of $85 million for one-time cost in 2021 and similar increase in expected mitigants driven primarily by the latest Texas legislation. As you are aware, The much-anticipated securitization bills, HP-4492 and SB-1580, have been approved and are being finalized by ERCOT and PUCT. Clarity about the expected completion should come later this year. Moving to the next column, to achieve a 3.0 net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio, we expect to leverage by $255 million. plus early redemption fee of $9 million totaling $264 million of capital to be allocated. This leaves $461 million of remaining capital available for allocation. A large portion of this capital is dependent on the successful conclusion of the ERCOT securitization processes. Finally, as a reminder, Today, capital allocation waterfall does not include the impact from our pending 4.8 gigawatt asset sale, which is expected to close in the fourth quarter. Net cash proceeds will be utilized partly for debt reduction, $500 million to maintain leverage neutrality, and the remaining $100 million to $150 million after purchase price adjustments, to be available for general capital allocation. Finally, on slide 11, after reducing our corporate debt balance for the expected 2021 debt reimbursement and for the minimum cash, our 2021 net debt balance will be approximately $7.9 billion, which when based at the midpoint of the adjusted EBITDA implies a ratio of 3.0 net debt to adjusted EBITDA. As discussed during the investor day, given our growth profile, we have revised our timeline to achieve investment-grade metrics of 2.5 to 2.75 times net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio. We plan on achieving a strong 3.0 ratio by year-end to 2021 and growing into our longer-term targets so 2.5 to 2.75 ratio by 2023, primarily through the full realization of direct energy run rate earnings. We remain committed to a strong balance sheet and to achieve credit metrics aligned with an investment grade rating. We are very comfortable in achieving our target and are continuing to maintain a constructive dialogue with the rating agencies. Back to you, Maurizio.
spk03: Thank you, Alberto. Turning to slide 13, I want to provide a few closing thoughts on today's presentation. During the quarter, we made significant progress on our priorities, integrating direct energy, perfecting and growing our platform, and executing disciplined capital allocation. NRG has never been stronger. We have the stability and financial flexibility to thrive and take advantage of opportunities through all market cycles. At our Investor Day, we outline for you the tremendous opportunity to deliver value for shareholders, and I have never been more excited about the future of this company. I look forward to updating you on our progress along the way. So with that, Ray, we'll open the line for questions.
spk02: As a reminder, to ask a question, you may need to press star 1 on your telephone. To withdraw a question, press the pound key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Julian John Will Smith of Bank of America. Your line is open.
spk05: Hey, good morning, team. Thanks for the opportunity. Just in brief, you can comment on federal nuclear efforts, perhaps, is the best way to define. You can comment on that just in brief and what that might mean for your specific opportunities here, if you don't mind.
spk03: I'm sorry, Julian. You were breaking up a little bit. Are you talking about the nuclear PTC?
spk05: Exactly. Indeed, and what that might be at a federal level for your asset.
spk03: Right. Well, I mean, so first, let me just say that in terms of regional or market-specific out-of-market subsidies, whether it's for nuclear or any other technology, we'd rather see competitive incentives in our respective markets. Now, having said that, If there is a national PTC, obviously that changes our perspective. We will look at participating that through our South Texas project facility down in Texas. Obviously, that has a positive impact on that particular asset. That's how I would think about the national PTC, but I need to highlight the national aspect of it. I mean, I think, you know, if it's just regional, it creates, you know, a lot of, you know, dynamics, intra-markets that are not necessarily in the best interest of competitive markets.
spk05: Indeed. Just wanted to get your perspective on that. And if you don't mind, perhaps a bigger picture question here, can you comment on the commodity backdrop here? I mean, there's been a lot of movement in the various forward curves obviously your position is not always obvious from a net short or net long perspective, depending on the specific market. Can you comment a little bit on the overall position today as you think about the later dated years and just how that positions you against the targets you articulated earlier?
spk03: Sure, Julian. I mean, as I tried to highlight in the past, our integrated platform really has reduced exposure to the underlying commodity prices. whether it is increasing in natural gas, which we have seen, or increasing in power prices. These tend to affect all market participants, all retail providers. So to some extent, all these increasing commodity prices can be passed through to customers. It's not that it's just affecting us or affecting somebody else. I will say that, you know, given the addition of the natural gas business with the acquisition of direct energy, that actually has been very complementary and it highlights the strength of the diversified portfolio. I mean, in the east, if you look at it. you know, it's actually, you know, even more noticeable. If gas prices are increasing, perhaps that has some, you know, impact in the near term on our power business, but it has actually a benefit on our natural gas business, which is incredibly sizable. So that's why, you know, I think, you know, investors need to think about our business somewhat insulated from increases in commodity prices. Now, I don't know, Chris, if you have any comments around just the direction of the price move and what to expect. I think I already addressed the impact on our portfolio.
spk07: Yeah. The only thing I would add is, I mean, look, gas has been strong because there's a lot of increased demand out there, right? LNG is going crazy overseas with Europe on bid against Asia. That's driving things up. I largest exporter of LNG in the world, passing Australia, which is, you know, a hell of a thing. Haven't seen that before. Storage is low right now. So, yeah, we're in a bit of an up cycle right here. But like Mauricio said, it's something that, you know, we can price in, right? So if we're pricing to our customers off of the curves that we see and we're covering it off of the curves, you know, as they happen or off of our generation, we're in a good spot where we tack on the margin and move on our merry way. So I think Mauricio is right. The integrated platform is a great way to play this, whether it's an up cycle or a down cycle.
spk05: Right. And just the last quick clarification, if you don't mind, are you confident with respect to the transition? I know we're still early right after your analyst day here, but just with respect to some of the early indications on a strategic pivot on the retail side, any level of confidence or comments you can offer? I know we're getting at it a little bit early here.
spk03: Okay, Julian, I want to understand your question.
spk05: I mean, any confidence on our, you know, people to... Just early planning, as you think about executing against the full $700 million uplift.
spk03: Oh, okay, got it. So, I mean, we are, you know, we're very confident on that. And actually, you know, we have already started a number of initiatives, both on power services and home services. But as I said, I mean, our number one priority right now, and I want to be unequivocal about it, is integrating direct energy and achieving the $300 million of synergies. That's the least path of resistance to value, and we're focused on that. Then we're going to look at low-hanging fruit opportunities like optimizing our dual-fuel customers. We have good visibility on them. We want our power customers to buy natural gas, and we want our natural gas customers to buy power. So the cost of acquisition is actually pretty compelling. And then, and I think that would be the focus, you know, for the rest of 2021 and in 2022. You know, you need to think about those opportunities on power and home services as we are testing and learning right now. And if we think that the opportunity is very attractive, then we will accelerate the scale up. If it's not, then we will kill it quickly. But I think that most of that investment will happen in the second half of our planning period towards, you know, let's say 23 and beyond. But we're very, very excited. We actually have a pilot program right now on home solar, which is very exciting. And we're learning a lot about what customers want. So we are waiting. We're not waiting. We're starting these initiatives. We're, you know, very small, deploying very little capital, but we're learning a whole lot.
spk05: All right, Claire. I'll leave it there.
spk03: Best of luck. Thank you, Julian.
spk02: Your next question comes from the line of Char Peraza from Guggenheim Partners. Your line is now open.
spk09: Hey, guys. Good morning. It's actually James for Char. and got some results. Hey, good morning. How are you? Good. How's it going? I just had a few housekeeping questions on the quarter. Can we just unpack the February impact shifts a little bit more? It looks like the buckets moved around $85 million. On the growth side, what's the breakdown there between resettlement and bad debt? And then just on the mitigation side, is that entirely securitization recovery assumptions?
spk03: Yes, so as Alberto mentioned, you know, pockets move a little. On a gross basis, it moved by $85 million. I mean, the majority of it is just resettlements, and I would say, you know, 70%, 70-30% between resettlements and then 30% by debt. So we feel very confident now with the clarity that we have around securitization that, you know, we're going to be able to offset that. So net-net, There is no change in the impact of the winter storm, Yuri, although, as I mentioned before, I mean, things are going to move, you know, a little bit up and down. You know, it just happened also in this quarter, but, you know, we have the upcoming 180-day settlement, and, you know, just in a couple of weeks, and, you know, we're monitoring that, but I actually think that that's going to be very small, but... You know, nonetheless, I mean, you know, I expect things to move, you know, just a little bit, whether it's up or down. But, you know, now that we have this visibility on the security station, it just gives me a lot of comfort to maintain the range that we have.
spk09: Gotcha. And then just on the PJM strategic review, could you provide, you know, any guidance on the timeline for that, the balance of the fleet?
spk03: Well, I mean, just to, you know, take a little bit of a step back because I think context is important here. So when you look at the PJM fleet, you're really talking about the Midwest generation fleet. I mean, that's the lion's share of it. And, you know, as we have quantified for you in the past, I mean, that's about 5% of our, you know, earnings. So, you know, it's important just to put the context and the magnitude of that. I think everybody has seen the auction results. They were very disappointing. That basically resulted in the announcement of 50% of our cold fleet, the announced retirements of 50% of our cold fleet. I think given the changes in capacity prices in PJM, it's just prudent that we do a deep dive review of the rest of the portfolio is ongoing at this point, and we're looking at everything in terms of, you know, reliability, if they're needed for reliability, what are the development prospects. I mean, we're looking at just about everything on that strategic review, and as we progress, I'll keep you all updated, but that's where we are.
spk09: Gotcha. That's all I have. Thanks. Congrats again, and welcome, Alberto. Hey, thank you. Thank you.
spk02: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Lapidus from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
spk00: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. A couple of things. First of all, the biggest investor concern about NRG is your short position in Texas, meaning the fact you don't have as much generation as you might have retail load. How do you anticipate changing your disclosures going forward to help get people comfortable with the short position, meaning whether you'll outline PPAs you have or tolling agreements or the hedging of future demand, simply because while I doubt there's going to be another URI, I'm not a weatherman, so I can't predict it, but I kind of doubt it. but there will be weather events, summer and winter, down the road, maybe not as violent as Yuri, but they'll happen. The grid just a couple of weeks ago was actually forecasting one in Texas, and clearly the short exposure is the single biggest risk outstanding for NRG. So how do you plan on changing your disclosure going forward? about your long or short position as a mix of contracting physical assets and other hedging?
spk03: Right. Well, good morning, Michael. And let me just be clear here. NRG doesn't have a short position. When I talk about, you know, running an integrated model, you know, every megawatt that we are selling to our customers, we're back-to-backing. whether it is with own generation or whether it is contracting generation in the market or just buying on the open wholesale market. So I want to be clear, Michael, because I think that is a misconception of NRG. We are not short electricity. We're not short the products that we're selling to our customers. We back to back them all. So that would be the first point. The second point is, You know, we don't have to own every single megawatt that we have. I mean, that is, you know, we can actually achieve the same attributes of owning generation by contracting them. You know, we have a number of renewable PPAs that we have. We contract with other counterparties, and whether it is a tolling deal or, you know, some... physical transaction. We can actually buy in the open market in the forwards. So, I mean, there is a number of things. I would say that the biggest lesson coming from Winterstorm URI is the diversification of our supply. If I owned one big power plant and you would basically say, okay, well, now they're not short. that one power plant will be a single point of failure. That's what we're trying to avoid. That was the big lesson from Winter Storm during. So I actually feel a lot more comfortable that we have a best-in-class commercial team that is looking at sourcing those megawatts from our power plants, from other people's power plants, and from the open market. That is the best strategy that we can. And if we can do it in a capital-light way, that frees up our cash and maintains the strong free cash flow to EBITDA ratio that we have, the better. So that's how I think about it, Michael. But this notion that you're describing that somehow the biggest risk is the short position of NRG, I just don't share that same view.
spk00: Right. But can I follow up on that real quick? I'm going to try and keep it simple. Do you have enough megawatt hours of your own generation or under multi-year contracts to meet expected peak demands summer and winter?
spk03: We do. That's what it's balancing, running a balanced portfolio. I expect the commercial team, when we go into the shorter term, to adjust our position based on their, you know, sometimes based on their commodity, based on weather, based on, you know, prices. But you're talking about, you know, optimization around the edge, not necessarily a position, you know, going forward. So, you know, I mean, if you're asking me, you know, do we have enough megawatts, I would say yes. On an 8-layer capacity, our portfolio is sufficient to cover, you know, just, you know, as much of the megawatts that we sell. But that's not what we're trying to do. What we're trying to do is optimize our supply to make sure that, you know, we put the position, you know, we have the company position in the best possible way given, you know, where we think, you know, the market is.
spk00: Got it. Okay. Thank you guys. Much appreciated. I'll follow up offline.
spk03: No problem, Michael.
spk02: Your next question comes from the line of Keith Stanley with Wolf Research. Your line is open.
spk08: Hi. Good morning. So first on capital allocation, would you expect the $461 million of cash available from the slide to be fully allocated this year, or is it more likely a good chunk of that gets pushed to next year just because you need the cash back from the yearly offset still?
spk03: Yes, good morning, Keith. I think, I mean, I'll – well, first of all, we allocate – when we actually have the cash available to us. So while we have created some financial flexibility, given the changes that we did on the glide path to achieve our investment grade credit metrics, they are still underpinned by when we're going to receive the money from the URI mitigation plan. And then secondly, from the sale of our East and California assets. So those are the two big triggers. As soon as we have that excess cash, I am going to apply our capital allocation principles. I expect to provide all of you another update on the third quarter call. And I expect this money to start coming in towards the fourth quarter. So as we have always done in the past, and I don't think this should be a surprise to anybody, we allocate that excess cash when we actually have the cash. And that's how I, you know, that's how you should think about just in terms of timing, Keith.
spk08: Got it. The second question, just can you give an update, curious how retail margins, sort of ignoring the changes in power prices if you can isolate it, just how retail margins are tracking after the shakeout from the winter storm? Are you seeing less competition in the Texas market given the volatility event or just any comment on trends and margins?
spk03: I think margins have been relatively stable. Even though the winter storm was pretty impactful, particularly on the regulated side, but also on the unregulated, many of the retail providers had either credit sleeves or back-to-back. We saw just a handful of people being exposed to the open market, and I think they fell through the process, but they were the They were the minimum number of participants. I wouldn't say that there was a big number of participants that were under tremendous stress on the retail side. So, you know, margins have been relatively stable. The competition is still, you know, out there similar to what we have seen in the past. Thank you.
spk02: Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Arnold from Vertical Research. Your line is now open.
spk04: Good morning, guys. Good morning, Jonathan. Can I just ask on the mitigation for Storm Yuri, has any of that been realized already or is it all still to come?
spk03: Most of it is still to come. I mean, as you know, the securitization process is still ongoing. While they pass the law, what we expect is in August, we're going to have a hearing. And then in October, we need to have an order that is going to define how they're going to allocate that money. I expect that by October we'll have even, you know, more line of sight in terms of the allocation methodology. And, you know, so that would be on the securitization. And then on the other two, the bad debt is a continuous process. And then I think everybody knows that, you know, in the heat recall option that we had, I mean, that's going to, you know, take a little bit more time given the legal route that we're taking.
spk04: Okay. Great. Thank you for that. And then I'm just on a – Looking forward and just thinking about some of the new targets in the strategy laid out at the analyst day, should we anticipate that you will start to provide sort of more disclosure around sort of the granularity between different types of customers, single fuel, dual fuel, et cetera, and just some ways to start tracking your performance on that plan over time and And if so, when do you think we might start to see some of that incremental disclosure?
spk03: Yes, that's an excellent point, Jonathan. And as I said to you before, we're going to be increasing our disclosures. We're actually working on it right now, given the strategic update that we provided to all of you just a month ago. I think what you should expect to see is transparency and visibility in terms of how we go from the margin that we have today to the margin that we want to have in 2025, the steps that we're taking. We're going to have conversations around the different initiatives to deploy the $2 billion of capital. We're in the test and learn period right now, but as we start scaling up in any of these initiatives, we will have a conversation with all of you ahead of time. in terms of what the opportunity, quantifying the opportunity, what is the capital that is required, and what is the EBITDA associated to it. So there is a lot more disclosures to come, both in terms of the $2 billion of capital deployment that we expect and the opportunity that that represents, but also the makeup of our portfolio around customers, what we're seeing around... you know, the longevity of these customers in our portfolio.
spk04: Mauricio, do you see that as something that will be sort of part of the regular kind of quarterly cycle when you get to that or more something you'll do, you know, once a year or something like that?
spk03: No, my goal will make it part of the quarterly updates. And, you know, I think that in earnest we'll come probably toward the end of the year and start the new year with, you know, fresh financials. You know, we're already working on it now. And I think you should expect, you know, more disclosures, you know, as we go into 2022. Thank you.
spk02: Our final question comes from the line of Angie Straczynski with Seaport Global. Your line is now open.
spk10: Thank you. I was actually about to ask a similar question about disclosures. It seems to me at least that the business has become a bit of a black box for all of us. I don't think that we really appreciate some exposure to gas. margins and hence some increased seasonality of direct energy especially so we would definitely appreciate the disclosures and again I did hear Mauricio's comments about the fact that you guys are not short power I understand that at least in the long term but how can you reconcile the movement in forward power curves and the fact that you are relying on on market-based purchases of power on your medium-term margins on the retail side. I understand that you match your contracts with in-the-market purchases, but I don't think that it's possible to time it just right. Again, directionally, explain how the move works. in forward curves should have impacted your retail margins?
spk03: Sure, Angie. So, I mean, I think you need to make the distinction between, you know, customers that are under fixed price and the customers that are under fixed price. We back-to-back that. So, the minute we sign a customer under fixed price, we have the supply. We lock in the margin and, you know, that is very simple. I mean, we price every customer based on, you know, the forward curves. So, I don't think that doesn't create any exposure. Perhaps you're talking about the variable rate, the month-to-month, and whether or not we can buy that. But keep in mind, I mean, a variable rate is exactly that. You have the ability to change the price if the underlying commodity price in the market changes. So that's why I was saying we have the ability to pass through some of these costs And we're not the only ones exposed to it. Every single retail energy provider, electric provider, is exposed to these changes in power prices. So it's not like, you know, this puts us in a disadvantage. I mean, it impacts, you know, the supply costs of all retail electric providers. So you would expect a similar move, you know, to offset that increase. That's why I say... I still don't understand this concept around why some investors or some of you think that we're short power. I mean, having a variable price customer allows us to change prices, whether it's up or down. If prices are coming down, perhaps we can move the customer's pricing down. But if prices rise, we can do the same. You know, in the medium term, when you're talking about the medium term, I'm assuming you're talking about 12 to 18 months. I mean, that's plenty of time to take price actions. And that's what we have done in the past. You know, we consistently see that. So that's how I think about the exposure. And on the fixed price, we always do it back-to-back. So I'm not concerned about fixed price customers that go multi-year, particularly for C&I customers.
spk10: Okay, and then just one last follow-up on capital allocation. So, I mean, I'm really glad to see that you will be restarting your share buyback program. Now, is that in any way implicitly stating that your investment grade rating is sort of delayed inherently given the URI storm, and as such, there's no point in trying to de-lever as quickly as possible, hence you have some more flexibility. Because again, I would have expected that you're going to try to go back to that, say, $2.50 to $2.75 net debt fee, but not as quickly as possible, and clearly buybacks are not going to help with this.
spk03: Well, I mean, I think what we said is we have adjusted our life path to 2.5 to 2.75. We haven't changed our targets of investment-grade credit metrics. We changed just the trajectory on how to get there, and that was informed by, you know, our conversations with rating agencies in the aftermath of Winter Storm URI. So it's very consistent with, you know, the conversations that we had with rating agencies. I don't control the credit rating. timing. That's not on us. That's on the rating agencies. We believe that three times is a very strong balance sheet, but we still are targeting $2.5 to $2.75. But given this change in glide path, it has provided some financial flexibility to, if we have excess cash, which we anticipate to have by the end of the year, then we will allocate that through the you know, guidance and principles that, you know, are very transparent and that we have communicated to all of you. So, you know, that's how I expect to, you know, to, you know, start, you know, allocating this excess cash, which includes share buybacks, you know, towards the end of the year when we start having some excess cash. But, you know, I mean, that's going to be contingent on, you know, when do we close the asset sale and when do we start seeing the money, you know, from the URI meetings.
spk10: Very good. Thank you.
spk02: That is all the time we have for questions. I will now pass the call over to Mauricio Buchadas for closing remarks.
spk03: Great. Thank you. Well, thank you for your interest in NRG and look forward to continue updating you in this exciting new opportunity and phase for NRG. Thank you, everyone.
spk02: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program.
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