Insperity, Inc.

Good morning. My name is Jenny and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the InSperity first quarter 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode and the floor will be open for questions after the presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your phone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to introduce today's speakers. Joining us are Paul Sarvody, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, and Douglas Sharpe, Executive Vice President of Finance, Chief Financial Officer, and Treasurer. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Douglas Sharpe. Mr. Sharpe, please go ahead.

Thank you. We appreciate you joining us. Let me begin by outlining our plan for this morning's call. First, I'm going to discuss the details behind our first quarter 2024 financial results. Paul will then comment on our recent accomplishments, including the progress we have made in implementing our Workday strategic partnership solution. I will return to provide our financial guidance for the second quarter and an update to the full year guidance. We will then end the call with a question and answer session. Now, before I begin, I would like to remind you that Mr. Salvati or I may make forward-looking statements during today's call which are subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. In addition, some of our discussion may include non-GAAP financial measures. For more detailed discussions of the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results that differ materially from any forward-looking statements and reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures, Please see the company's public filings, including the Form 8-K filed today, which are available on our website. Now let's discuss our first quarter results in which we reported earnings above the high end of our guidance. We reported Q1 adjusted EBITDA of $142 million and adjusted earnings per share of $2.27. These results reflect the average number of paid worksite employees within the range of our forecast continued strong pricing, lower than expected benefit costs, and operating expenses in line with our budget. As for our growth metric, the average number of paid worksite employees in Q1 was approximately 304,000, a decline of less than 1% when compared to Q1 of 2023. As you may recall from our prior earnings call, this slight decline was expected due to net layoffs in our client base, over the second half of 2023 into January of 2024, and the loss of a handful of large accounts during our year-end transition. Additionally, we experienced a 42% decline in net hiring in our client base in Q1 of 2024 when compared to the first quarter of 23. Worksite employees paid from sales was at a similar level compared to Q1 of 2023, and when combined with client retention, came in at forecasted levels. Gross profit increased by 4% over Q1 of 2023, a strong pricing through our year-end transition of new and renewing accounts, combined with a lower than expected benefit cost trend. This lower Q1 benefit cost was associated with a favorable adjustment to our reserves at the end of 2023, based primarily on subsequent claims runoff through the end of February of 2024. Regarding the last month of Q1, we believe the timing of claim payments under our plan in March were affected by the industry-wide impact of the cybersecurity breach that changed healthcare. Upon a detailed review of our claims data and discussions with our insurance carrier, we believe we have appropriately reserved additional amounts for Q1 2024 claims incurred but not yet reported due to the impact of this breach. And the combination of our other direct cost areas, including workers' compensation and payroll taxes, were generally in line with our forecast. Q1 operating expenses were also managed to budget of levels increasing 12% over Q1 of 2023. Operating expenses reflected our continued investment in our growth and our service and technology offerings, including approximately $5 million of costs related to the initial phase of implementation of our Workday strategic partnership. First quarter's effective tax rate came in at 29%, which was higher than our Q1 of 2023's rate of 23%, and our forecasted rate of 26%. This was primarily due to changes in our stock price that resulted in less tax benefit on employee stock awards vesting at the end of February. Now, we believe that our financial position and liquidity remains strong as we continue to invest in our long-term growth plans while providing returns to our shareholders. During the quarter, we repurchased 233,000 shares of stock at a cost of $23 million and paid out $21 million in cash dividends. We ended Q1 with $206 million of adjusted cash, an increase of $35 million over the December 31, 2023 balance. And we continue to have $280 million available under our credit facility. Now, at this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Paul.

Thank you, Doug, and thank you all for joining our call. Today, I'll begin with comments on our solid first quarter performance, including initiatives supporting our plans for future growth. Second, I'll provide insights from our view into the economic climate and the reactions within the small and mid-sized business community. Third, I'll provide an update on the initiation of our new strategic partnership with Workday and provide a glimpse into our upcoming Investor Day. Overall, we had an excellent quarter, exceeding the high end of our adjusted EBITDA range against the backdrop of an economic slowdown. Our fundamentals are solid and we expect our plan for the balance of the year will help mitigate the effects of the economic climate on our target small to medium sized business clients. New book sales for workforce optimization solution were strong in the first quarter. We experienced a double digit increase over the same period last year, reflecting the growth of our BPA team and an improvement in closing rates driving sales efficiency. This improvement reflects the experience gained over the last year by business performance advisors and effective incentives from prospective clients and the sales team. Booked sales by our mid-market business performance consultants was the highlight of the quarter. They continued their excellent performance since the last half of last year, exceeding budget. Sales of our larger accounts have become more consistent over the last year. The steady flow from BPAs funneling qualified leads into this process and our growing number of BPCs is the reason for this improvement. This is well-timed for our new Workday strategic partnership I will discuss in a few minutes. We also had a strong quarter in our traditional employment workforce acceleration business as our WX employee count on this service increased 21% over the same period last year. including a notable improvement in client retention. Total client retention in our workforce optimization business for the first quarter was in line with last year, except for the large accounts we discussed last quarter. We also achieved an important marketing objective, exceeding our lead generation goal for the quarter. However, conversion of these leads into discovery call appointments was just under 90% of target. Reaching sales activity objectives remains challenging in this environment. We have several initiatives to drive sales activity, including the launch of our account-based experience marketing and sales strategy. This approach, made possible by our investment in Salesforce, provides insights from advanced technologies to leverage the ideal client profile and buyer intent signals to improve BPA effectiveness. This is a more strategic approach in sales research, planning, and execution focused on high-value accounts, and building relationships with key decision makers. All BPAs will begin with assigned target accounts this quarter, which we believe can lead to more BPA time in front of qualified prospects. We have additional initiatives underway, leveraging our investment in Salesforce and AI-enabled technology to drive efficiencies, speed, quality, and insights for our teams as they serve our clients and operate and grow the business. The move to our enterprise-wide Salesforce platform, as well as our implementation of modern data engineering and analytics technologies, are well underway, allowing us to put in place a data strategy that we believe will accelerate predictive analytics, AI, and other emerging capabilities. Now let me provide some insight regarding the economic climate our clients are facing, evident from our client data, our interaction directly with business owners, and our recent national survey. The key data elements we monitor to assess the small, medium-sized business climate are net hiring, wage inflation, overtime hours worked, and commissions paid to the sales staff of our clients. As Doug mentioned, net layoffs incurred in our client base over the second half of 2023 has continued through the first quarter of this year. Wage inflation, which peaked nearly 7% in 2022, has continued a downward trend all the way to slightly below 2%. Overtime as a percentage of regular pay is down to 9%, the lowest number in a few years. The most important metric that provides some insight into client sales and near-term revenues in their businesses is commissions paid to their sales organization. This metric was down to 6%. also the lowest number in the last couple of years. Recently, we've also had the opportunity to have direct discussions with the representative number of clients. While normal business owner optimism is still alive and well, comments about the effect of interest rates, inflation, and economic slowdown were common. Our recent client survey reinforced these anecdotal comments across the broader nationwide client base. Clients who feel their organization will perform better during 2024 and then during 2023, has decreased to 66% from 74% just one quarter ago. The percent of clients who expect increased staffing has dropped to 39% compared to 54% a year ago. One-third of the respondents expect the economic climate to have at least a somewhat positive impact on their organization, while 42% anticipate a negative impact. Consistent with past quarters and looking forward to 2024, client optimism about their own business performance exceeds that of their expectations for the economy. Two-thirds of clients surveyed were still optimistic for their own company performance, which was similar to January. Now, let me shift to the exciting update about our newest significant catalyst for growth, our exclusive Workday Strategic Partnerships. My enthusiasm for this opportunity was evident on our last call, and after the first three months working together and gathering client feedback has been reaffirmed. Our view of this strategic partnership as a potential game changer in the marketplace, and at the same time significantly elevating the trajectory of our company, driving long-term growth, profitability, and value creation for Insperity has been strengthened. As a reminder, through this strategic partnership, Workday and Insperity are committed to jointly developing, marketing, selling, and supporting the preeminent solution for targeted small and medium-sized businesses that combines Workday's HR technology with Insperity's HR services. We expect to offer this unique combined solution to the target market for less upfront capital costs, ongoing expense, complexity, and implementation time than currently available to those businesses. We believe this new solution has the potential to be competitively disruptive. Insperity and Workday are now strategic partners focused on four major objectives. All four of these priorities are off and running after just the first few months working together. First, a foundational step for this strategic partnership to be effective is Insperity becoming a Workday customer for our corporate staff, which is ideal for our 4,300-employed company with dynamic future growth. We believe it's important to have our entire staff on Workday to be ready to support our clients as we launch this new solution. Our corporate Workday tenant project plan is progressing on schedule. A significant milestone for this to be started and completed effectively is the completion of the initial corporate HR data workbook in order to build the foundation tenant to use in configuration sessions. This was submitted to Workday and the development site is up and running. Second, we are developing and embedding an instance of Workday as the client-facing HR technology within our workforce optimization offering to create this new joint solution for the target market of larger accounts. Now, this new Insperity Workday client tenant instance is a significantly more complex implementation. It's challenging to even describe how much work and detailed planning has already happened on this project. We are very pleased significant progress has been accomplished detailing out the master plan for this project and the teams are working together extremely well. Third, we're establishing a deployment and enablement team within the Insperity Service Organization with the help of Workday. Our goal for this team is to deliver implementations and provide support for the new solution in a similar efficient and effective manner as we do today. We're also off to a great start establishing this Insperity enablement team. A significant number of our service professionals have already completed training programs to establish a foundation for this team. The fourth major objective of this strategic partnership is a go-to-market plan for Insperity and Workday to address this target market, including co-branding, co-marketing, and co-selling. The most significant effort accomplished since the launch has been the organization, staffing, and alignment of teams to ensure the success of the strategic partnership and the go-to-market plan. We're very pleased with the demonstrated commitment reflected in the leadership of both companies' roles and responsibilities to make this partnership dynamic and effective for both companies. The first three months establishing the framework for this strategic partnership has not been without challenges. as this type of relationship is new to both companies. However, the corporate culture match between the two firms continues to reaffirm my confidence around our opportunity for long-term success. My confidence is also supported by the client-centric nature of this strategic partnership and the potential to deliver a highly scalable HR technology and service solution to a significantly underserved market. Dialogue with clients and prospects about this solution has also been exceptional. We were able to have personal interaction with over 200 business owners at our recent client events, and the energy from these discussions was encouraging. We're very excited about our upcoming Investor Day coming up on May 16th at our corporate office and available remotely online. The focus of this event will be an update on the fundamental drivers to our powerful business model, and the specific ways we expect our new Workday Strategic Partnership to be a catalyst to improve the likelihood, degree, and speed of our success into the future. At this point, I'd like to pass the call back to Doug.

Thanks, Paul. Now, let me provide our Q2 guidance and an update to our four-year 2024 guidance. While we outperformed our earnings guidance in Q1, we are forecasting adjusted EBITDA over the remainder of the year consistent with our initial guidance. We are now thinking uncertainty and weakness in the macroeconomic environment could persist over the remainder of the year. Based upon these factors and our starting point going into Q2, we have reduced our 2024 outlook for works on employee growth to a range of flat to 2%. However, we expect the impact of this lower growth rate on our full year earnings to be mostly offset by continued strong pricing and slightly lower direct costs and operating expenses. We are now forecasting four-year 2024 adjusted EBITDA in a range of $254 million to $293 million. While we have lowered our overall operating expenses from our initial budget, we expect 2024 operating costs relating to our Workday strategic partnership to remain in the neighborhood of $60 million. As for adjusted EPS, we are now forecasting full year 2024 in a range of $3.17 to $3.90. This revised guidance assumes an increase in our 2024 effective income tax rate from 26% to 29%, primarily due to less tax benefit on employee stock awards investing in Q1, as I have previously mentioned. As for Q2, we are forecasting paid worksite employees to remain down by about 1% compared to Q2 of 2023. As for Q2 earnings, we are forecasting adjusted EBITDA in a range of $53 million to $66 million and adjusted EPS from 61 cents to 83 cents. This guidance considers our typical quarterly earnings pattern where our Q1 results are typically higher than subsequent quarters as we earn a higher level of payroll tax surplus prior to worksite employees reaching their taxable wage limits, and benefit costs typically are lower in Q1 and step up over the remainder of the year as deductibles are met. Now at this time, I'd like to open up the call for questions.

Thank you very much. We will now be conducting our question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your phone keypad now. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the queue. You may press star 2 if you wish to remove your question from the queue. For anyone using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before you press the keys. Please wait a moment whilst we poll for questions. Thank you. Your first question is coming from Andrew Nicholas of William Blair. Andrew, your line is live.

Great. Thank you and good morning. I wanted to start with a couple of questions on the Workday Partnership. Paul, a lot of really good color here as you work through that partnership for the first couple months. I guess two questions specifically. One, are there any kind of early signs on the productivity or opportunity around the sales leads that Workday is funneling your way? And then second, and I apologize if I missed it in your prepared remarks, but do you have any additional insight or detail on the expected timeline now that you've done, you know, it sounds like a pretty considerable amount of planning work and some implementation and integration conversations?

Yeah, thank you for the question. That's great. I'll start with your second question first, but We are not ready yet to actually pin down a detailed launch date, if you will, but we are certainly well down the road in terms of looking at all the elements of what has to happen for the launch to occur and are comfortable that it's within an acceptable timeframe within the range that we had anticipated when we put the deal down. Again, this is the kind of thing that gets more and more clear literally on a week-to-week basis. The teams are really working super together. They're making great progress at a really appropriate rate. I think it's important that both of our companies are looking at this as a product launch. It's a different frame of reference on how we're approaching getting to the finish line. And so making sure that we do that in a product that fully fits what we're designing, but getting there as quickly as possible to take advantage of the market opportunity that's out there. So I can't give you a time frame yet, but we will go into more detail about what we're doing here in just a couple of weeks at our at our investor day meeting, and you'll have a better sense of that when we get through that. Now also, it's very exciting on the lead front. As I mentioned last quarter, our go-to-market efforts would start with a whole planning process around lead flow back and forth between the two companies. The focus has really been on the process and what it takes to make sure that these are not just dumping a bunch of names from one group to the other, but rather a warm handoff. Keep in mind that just lead flow, I put that in the co-marketing category, but we want people to land on sites that have some co-branding in it. We want to make sure that as leads are handled by both firms, that there's a co-selling component where there's dialogue between the two companies about specific accounts and appropriate warm handoffs going on. So we're well down that road. There's also technology work that has been advanced to get to the point where we can literally flip a switch and have this stuff going. So my original plan was for this to get planned out in that first quarter or so, get implemented within that second period in a way that those leads flow and we start to see, literally start to see sales results in the last half of the year. And I feel very good that we're on target for that.

Great. Thank you. That's really helpful. And then I guess for my second question, I wanted to revert back to the core business It does sound like net hiring expectations have come in a bit versus maybe what you expected at the beginning of the year with your initial guidance. If you could just kind of clarify or quantify that, that would be helpful. And then also, you know, what is the assumption now on the worksite employee front in terms of the back half of the year? I think even at the low end of your revised worksite employee growth guidance, there's a decent amount of sequential improvement baked in in the second half. So, you know, is that a function of some of those warm leads converting from workday? Is it an expectation that the macro environment stabilizes or even improves some? Any additional context on kind of macro assumptions embedded in the worksite employee guidance would be super helpful.

Thank you for that question. It really is more the simple fact of the way the business model actually works in terms of how sales flow throughout the year. Each quarter, our budget and what we sell every quarter goes up. And the retention goes up throughout the year once you get past that first quarter, which we've already got past. So we have really built in this outlook that I discussed that we're seeing in the client base, where even though they're optimistic on the sentiment side, they are not doing, what aligns with that optimism. They have battened down the hatches. And so we built that into our going forward that we're not expecting to see in an election year. That is a backdrop. So we're not assuming any benefit to speak of from the net change in existing in the client base. And actually, I'm not really budgeting a huge upside. from even the lead flow because I just don't think it's prudent to take a new strategy like that and build stuff in when you haven't done it yet. I'm optimistic about that, but this forecast is really based on some benefit from that, but more just the continued execution of this BPA team that is further down there. on their effectiveness already evidenced in their sales efficiency in the first quarter, and the work that we're doing to make sure we have good lead flow. Our leads I mentioned from our own marketing efforts were strong in the quarter. Some of that backdrop of the economic climate affected some of the appointment settings, so we're working other ways to make sure we are effective in that area, especially that ABX system that we've got to actually assign specific accounts and work specific relationships to target high-value accounts that are more likely to be more ready to visit and to potentially define the solution. So that should help you with that approach, what happens in our business model. If sales increase throughout the year, retention is low, the balance of the year. So that's what's really driving the quarter-to-quarter growth.

Very helpful. I'll get back in the queue. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Your next question is coming from Toby Summer of Truist. Toby, your line is live.

Thank you. How do you compare and contrast the seemingly mixed signals conveyed by higher mid-market client turnover around the year-end transition with what you described as sort of enhanced new sales momentum in that category over the last few quarters?

Yeah, I think if you go back to kind of our discussion from last quarter, it was seven large accounts that moved at the end of the year. Four of those moved specifically for technology reasons. And so it's our success penalty. And another two of those were due to just the businesses being sold. So your question of contrasting the two don't really connect that well. We know that we're providing a powerfully good service to an underserved community now. And we believe that once we have this new option, for this new solution, this new option for these clients in this category, it's going to secure them for a much longer period of time. And in fact, I really have this mindset around ultimate scalability in both technology and service. That's what we're about to bring to the market. And even the dialogue with all these customers over the first quarter, we've got prospects in the pipeline that are already not only their interest is elevated, but we'll talk more about this in a couple weeks, some of the interaction with not just the business owner or the chief financial officer, but even the technology people and the HR people within these larger accounts. Their energy around the potential of this solution is very high. And so... I know we've peaked the interest just among the few that we've gotten out to put this in front of, but I see this as a really dramatic change in our ultimate issue around both sales and retention of accounts in that target.

That makes a lot of sense. Is it fair to say that the customers that churned were probably larger than the new sales achieved in recent quarters? Kind of a size difference?

Yeah, on average, of course. These were accounts that we brought on at a smaller size and grew them substantially over, you know, half a dozen years or more. And they ended up, you know, two of them actually went to a work-based solution and two went to, I guess it was... But, you know, the very interesting part, I went out to talk to other clients that are large that have also fit that description and, you know, ran into some that had actually evaluated those two, and it was very interesting. We'll talk more about this in a couple weeks, but their view of having to choose between this significant investment to deal with the scalable technology solutions And they saw that we're having to give up some important service capabilities that we have with us. So a new solution carries those two together, and those customers don't have to make that decision. So I feel good about it at this point, even from, although it's anecdotal feedback, but it is among those types of customers that are good a good sample of those that we want to understand their thinking.

Terrific. I just have two more questions. Could you sort of dimensionalize the change in your assumption for health care expenses throughout the year as a result of change, whatever that commentary you could give? And then, Paul, from a strategic standpoint, I wanted to ask, How significant could Insperity's workday implementation be in a handful of years? And do you envision the company performing implementations for non-PEO customers? So I'm trying to get a sense for the TAM. Thanks.

Yeah, that's a great question that we're going to spend a little more time on in a couple weeks. So I won't steal some thunder out there, but I will just tell you that there's no question in my mind that when we look at that total addressable market of these mid-market accounts, 40 million worksite employees or more, we've always said, hey, we can attack some of that market with what we've already been doing. But it's an appreciable percentage of that market now that this will be the best solution in the marketplace, and no one else will have anything like it. Because, like I say, it's the ultimate scalable solution in both technology and services. Now, some clients will get to a size where they want their own more customized version of Workday. But at that point, we will already have been their support infrastructure. And it's going to be a very natural progression for us to be that team that not only helps them implement their new solution, which will be much more readily definable and developed because they've already been on it and we're the ones who've been servicing them. So for us to continue to be their service provider going forward is a very natural progression. And, you know, so... Will we go out to the market to be an implementer for those accounts? That's not really the strategy. Could we do that? We would have that capability, but that's not the plan. The plan is to bring them onto our service and then be able to keep them much longer and have a little different version of the service when they're ready to go out into their own instance of Workday and us remain that service support that they need, you know, even though they've grown to that size.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Yeah.

Thank you very much. Our next question is coming from Jeff Martin of Roth MKM. Jeff, your line is live.

Thanks. Good morning, Doug. I'll let you answer the question and then I'll ask mine. Appreciate that.

Sorry. Okay. No problem. So what we saw on the healthcare side, you know, specific to Q1, was the upside in that particular area not only had to do with the cost side, but the pricing side. So the pricing side, it's been a focus of ours because recent experience on cost trends and we've been able to exceed our pricing targets and so that's that's a part of the equation on the cost side the upside that we got from the first quarter you got to look at it really in two different pieces the upside for the first quarter really had to do with our reserves at the end of last year and in hindsight being conservative, and we had reasons for doing that because of some of the volatility we experienced in 2023. And then we looked at subsequent claim runoffs to measure against those reserves, and yes, at the end of the day, the claim runoff was favorable relative to those reserves that were set up. And a lot of that, you're looking at claim runoff through the end of February for that. Now, we all know that in March, there was a breach at Change Healthcare, which is sort of the intermediary between the providers and the insurance companies, and therefore would expect some sort of disruption in the claim payment pattern. We did a deep dive into the details of that. We've also had conversations with the insurance carriers. And because of that, we felt it appropriate to provide some incremental reserve at the end of the first quarter for claims that or incurred but not reported yet as a result of that cybersecurity breach. Now I'll tell you that we feel like we again have made a conservative IBNR adjustment as a result of that event, ending the quarter with what is our largest IBNR level over the course of our history and even on a per participant basis. being a larger number. So at the end of the day, we feel like we have appropriately handled the issue with the breach at Change Healthcare. And again, the upside is really coming from the reserves that we, in hindsight, were conservative that were set up at the end of 2023.

Hey, Doug, I'll follow up with that. Yep. Thank you. So in terms of the benefit cost trend for 2024, is that unchanged versus your last commentary in Q4?

For the most part, yeah. I mean, I think we talked going into the year, in my last prepared remarks, a benefit cost trend of 4.5% to 6%. And so... it's still sort of near the midpoint, still within the range, but probably a little bit down based upon our Q1 experience, but still within that range.

Great. And then with respect to the workday relationship, is it still the expectation that initially you'd be doing a lot of conversions of existing clients prior to taking on new clients, or would you be able to straddle both? And then secondly... How do clients perceive the value in your view? I know it's still early of doing the combined solution versus doing Workday independently and going without the services that you provide.

Sure. We are doing a tremendous amount of research and even working with some outside consultants to evaluate different aspects of this approach and Again, treating this as a new product launch, so appropriately gathering information from both prospects and current clients, and again, looking at value perceived, pricing relationships. I think we're on a very good track to gather the appropriate information, assess it properly, and determine these launch dynamics. At this stage, I think there's going to be a nice mix between both current clients or even new clients coming on this year that want to upgrade once that is ready to go. The current clients that are already here, like I said, had great conversations and, yes, several on that list already, some more than happy to be our even beta test type We have a number of clients that are going to be involved in literally the configuration design effort to make sure that we've got how much is pre-configured for the whole base versus how much is customizable for clients. So, you know, we're doing those things properly, but, yeah, there'll be a mix. And I think there'll also be a backlog of, you know, customers that, you know, are signed up to come on the service on the new offering. So, you know, our launch time for the offering timed with, you know, when it's actually coming out and having more of a pipeline for these accounts to come on. You know, that's kind of the mindset that we are in today. There's a lot of work, you know, to get to that point and make sure that's effective, but we're on that track.

Great, and then one more if I could. You know, the $60 million planned incremental spend in 2024, how might that progress as we, you know, move through the quarters, and then how much support staff

you anticipating hiring in advance of that so you know there's a process going on there now also and you know we we basically were on track in that or very early first quarter which is you know when we had it but not very much information to you know to try to estimate this and it came out very good we're We're still very comfortable with that number for the year. And you do have to weigh in also the hiring people versus contracting out for certain components, depending on whether it's just a surge of need for a short time or whether it's part of the ongoing picture. So there's a lot of that type of thing going on as well. But I think the mindset between launching a new product effectively in a timely fashion and managing the investment side and the ongoing expense side has really been impressive to me already in a short time. So we feel good about how we have looked at this and been conservative in those kind of estimates, but there's a lot yet to go on, so we're not getting into that much detail about that yet.

Okay, thank you very much. Just as a reminder, if there are any more questions, you can press star one on your phone keypad now. And we have a final question in from Andre Childress, who is on for Mark Marcon of Baird and Company. Andre, your line is live.

Hey, Paul and Doug, thanks for taking our questions. My first question is just, as you look back at the key selling and enrollment period, what did you see from a competitive perspective, particularly on the pricing front?

Yeah, we saw through this period, kind of like I mentioned on the last quarter, where when the climate is more difficult, you see more competitive approaches and And so I think a lot of that was more in the fall of last year. It kind of peaked. It's still out there, but I think the way we have looked at it and responded has been effective. This first quarter, having a strong quarter like we did significantly, double digit up from last year was evidence of that. And I mentioned that was a combination of you know, the experience factor and the growth and the number of BPAs, but then also, you know, the right incentives for both clients and the sales team. So we're in a good shape on that front. But I would expect it to stay pretty competitive out there. I do, as you talked about the workday comparison, that's a different animal because it's an exclusive relationship. No one will be able to even have that. I think that frames our offering really well against others. That's more of the long-term view on that front. For this year, we're expected to remain competitive and we like our are winning the right clients that we're after, we're in great shape on that front.

Great. And then as a follow-up, in your prepared remarks, you talked about various initiatives to drive BPA productivity. Could you provide an update on just how you are leveraging AI or how you plan to leverage AI across both the sales service and maybe even the R&D organization? Thank you.

Yeah, absolutely. I think the main point to take away on that front is we are really structured and staffed and organized and working through processes and even the technology investments we've already made have put us in a very strong position to flush out all these possibilities, and there are so many possibilities. Certain things are pretty obvious. Like I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we're talking about things that drive efficiency or provide insights and things of that nature. We're on a great track to bring those forward. Now, we also believe that a lot of this is not there yet. We flushed out certain areas we've looked at. We said, wow, that's going to be really good. It's not really that good yet. But we're in a good position to capitalize on these things as they happen. And it was great timing for us to put Salesforce in place, which was significant to making sure that all our internal data is in one place. That's powerful for this. We've done a tremendous amount of work relative to implementation on modern data engineering and other analytics technologies. I just think we're in a great position to do this, but it's not time to go into a lot of detail about that, but that's coming soon.

Okay, thank you very much. That appears to be the end of our question and answer session. I will now turn the conference back over to Mr. Salvotti for any closing remarks.

Well, once again, I'd like to thank everyone for being with us today for this update, and I'd like to have a special invite to all of you to be a part of our Investor Day coming up later this month. There is also an opportunity for you to be here in person and a way to go through that process on our website. There's also a link within our announcement that we put out today, but we'd love to have as many as possible, either in person or remotely, and look forward to answering a lot more questions, not only about the status of our current business model and the drivers, but how those are linked to this new strategic partnership and our expectations about how that will directly affect our likelihood degree and speed of success going forward here in Insperity in delivering shareholder value. So thank you again for your participation today. We look forward to seeing you soon.

Thank you very much, everyone. This does conclude today's conference. You may now disconnect your phone lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.