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spk04: Good day everyone and welcome to the new core corporation 2nd, quarter of 2021 earnings call as a reminder. Today's call is being recorded later. We will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will come at that time. Certain statements made during this conference will be forward looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. The words we expect believe anticipate and variations of such words and similar expressions are intended to identify those forward looking statements. which are based on management's current expectations and information that is currently available. Although NUCOR believes they are based on reasonable assumptions, there can be no assurance that future events will not affect their accuracy. For information about the risks and uncertainties relating to these forward-looking statements may be found in NUCOR's latest 10-K and subsequently filed 10-Qs, which are available on the SEC's and NUCOR's website. The forward-looking statements made in this conference call speak only as of this date, and Nucor does not assume any obligation to update them, either as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. For opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Leon Topalian, President and Chief Executive Officer of Nucor Corporation. Please go ahead, sir.
spk05: Good afternoon, and welcome to our second quarter earnings call. Joining me on the call today are the members of Nucor's executive team, including Jim Frias, our chief financial officer, Dave Samosky, chief operating officer, Al Baer, responsible for plate and structural products, Doug Jellison, responsible for raw materials and logistics, Greg Murphy, responsible for business services and our general counsel, Dan Needham, responsible for bar and rebar fabrication products, Rex Query, responsible for sheet and tubular products. Mary Emily Slate, responsible for our enterprise commercial strategy. And Chad Udemark, responsible for engineered bar and fabricated construction products. Thank you for joining us today. With demand for steel remaining strong in most of our facilities operating at peak performance, we have not lost focus on our goal of becoming the world's safest steel company. We continue to perform well on the safety front as we look to make 2021 our safest year ever, besting our record set just last year. In particular, I want to acknowledge the progress demonstrated by our sheet mills and our two DRI facilities for achieving world-class safety performance so far this year. I encourage all of our teammates to maintain their focus on safety so we can achieve the most important goal that we have set for our company – Consistent with last month's guidance, Nucor posted record quarterly earnings in the second quarter. Our earnings of $5.04 per share surpassed our previous earnings per share record set last quarter. Our first half earnings of $8.13 per share exceeds our full year EPS record of $7.42 set in 2018. All three operating segments are continuing to generate robust profits due to strong demand, higher average selling prices, and excellent execution across Nucor. In our steel mill segment, we saw the greatest improvement in profitability from our sheet and plate mills. The performance of our steel products group also improved compared to the first quarter. Jim will provide more details about our performance at this quarter and our outlook for the third quarter in a few minutes. This level of performance is the result of years of work strategically growing and positioning our company to thrive in market conditions like we are experiencing today. My congratulations to the entire Nucor team. There are several fundamental drivers of the strong market conditions Nucor is benefiting from today. The most important of these is robust demand. Virtually all the steel end-use markets that we monitor are growing. Some of this growth may simply be catch-up from the pandemic-induced economic low we experienced here in the U.S., but we think it goes beyond a temporary rebound. One sign of this is the increasing confidence about next year that we sense from our customers, ranging from automotive, trucking, heavy and ag equipment, and across the construction sector. There are noteworthy new drivers for growth in steel demand. warehouses for e-commerce, renewable energy projects, and an increase in U.S. manufacturing investment focused on greater supply chain resiliency are all creating new market opportunities for Nucor. Very strong housing and automotive markets are also creating incremental steel demand, not to mention activity by state DOTs whose infrastructure investment spending has held up better than expected. We are fortunate that several of our strategic growth investments have come online during this period and our results reflect better than expected contributions from Nucor Steel Mills in Sedalia, Frostproof, Kankakee, Marion, Gallatin's new galvanizing line, and Hickman's new cold mill. My thanks especially to our teammates at these locations who have worked safely to ramp these projects up quickly to meet market demands. Our strategy continues to be grow the core, expand beyond, and live our culture. We are continuing to make targeted investments in acquisitions to grow our share in attractive markets and increase our long-term earnings power. We are complementing our investment strategy with a sharpened commercial focus that is enabling us to leverage our broad portfolio and deliver increased value to our customers with more integrated solutions. Acquisition announcements we made in the second quarter are focused on the expand beyond part of our mission statement. Our pending acquisition of Cornerstone Building Brands Insulated Metal Panels Business, IMP for short, is squarely aimed at some of the fastest growing markets I've mentioned. For example, distribution center investments driven by evolving consumer preferences regarding e-commerce and grocery delivery, as well as the expansion of data centers and server farms, which all require temperature-controlled environments. Cornerstone's IMP business is a market leader and innovator in the growing IMP product category. IMP products are gaining market share as companies and institutions continue to focus on environmental performance and energy efficiency. The superior insulating performance of IMP products reduces energy usage and overall operations-related greenhouse gas emissions. Additionally, IMP products are easier to install with lower maintenance costs versus other wall and roofing solutions. Cornerstone's IMP business is an excellent fit with Nucor Buildings Group, and we are confident that we can help the team there take performance to an even higher level. We also announced earlier this week our agreement to acquire Hannibal Industries, one of the largest steel pallet rack manufacturers in the U.S., Hannibal provides racking solutions to warehouse serving the e-commerce, industrial, food storage, and retail segments. Adding Hannibal to Nucor creates a new growth platform that broadens our offering to the distribution center market, including beams, joist, deck, metal buildings, and, of course, insulated metal panels. As an employee-owned company, we are optimistic that Hannibal Industries will be a great fit with the Nucor culture. Also, on the Expand Beyond front, we continue to build out our own growth platform in industrial gases, enabling lower cost supply to our steel mills while also creating additional streams of revenue with sales to third parties. The team that joined Nucor with our acquisition of Universal Industrial Gases in 2019 continues to do a great job executing these initiatives. We have an operating air separation unit at Nucor Hertford and are actively selling liquid gases on the open market. We will continue to have more ASUs supporting our other mills up and running in the coming months. We are bringing the safety-focused, performance-driven, team-oriented Nucor culture to each of these businesses, and we are excited to welcome these teammates to the Nucor family. As one of the cleanest steel producers on the planet, Nucor will continue to take our environmental leadership position even farther. Our new greenhouse gas reduction commitment will take our carbon intensity down to 77% below today's world average. Our commitment is to reduce our scope one and two greenhouse gas emissions intensity by a combined 35%. This commitment will be measured against the 2015 baseline, the year the Paris Climate Agreement was signed. At our current greenhouse gas intensity, Nucor has already achieved the steel sector benchmark established in the Paris Agreement. Our performance today is what many of our competitors around the globe are aspiring to achieve by 2030, 40, 50, and beyond. And compared to many of our integrated competitors, our starting point is already better than their near and intermediate goals. And now we're going to get even better. We are a leader today in sustainable steel production, and our commitment to further reduce our emissions intensity will keep us a leader as we move forward. Turning to infrastructure, we urge Congress to make good on the recent bipartisan framework reached in the Senate and come together to pass a significant infrastructure funding bill. We strongly believe that modernizing our infrastructure will boost our nation's economic competitiveness, not to mention making us all safer. Federal infrastructure spending plans currently under consideration are expected to increase U.S. steel demand by as much as 5 million tons per year for every 100 billion of new investment. Nucor is incredibly well positioned to provide steel for infrastructure projects across the U.S. We are encouraged that the President and members from both parties continue to focus on this issue, and we are hopeful that they can come together to form a bipartisan solution. Again, it is gratifying to see how years of hard work and planning are paying off in this incredibly strong steel market. We're excited about the expanded capabilities we can offer our customers because of our capital investments and acquisitions we have made in recent years. To the entire Nucor team, congratulations on an excellent first half of 2021. Let's continue to execute and make this our safest and most profitable year. Now, Jim Frias will provide more details about our performance in the second quarter. Jim?
spk03: Thanks, Leon. Second quarter earnings of $5.04 per diluted share exceeded our guidance range. Better than expected results for the month of June were achieved across a broad group of businesses, including our beam mills, bar mills, sheet mills, rebar fabrication, tubular products, and joist and deck. Nucor's diverse portfolio of products and capabilities is consistently a powerful driver of value creation for Nucor shareholders and customers. Recently completed capital projects made significant and above-budget earnings contributions in the first half of this year. These projects are the rolling mill modernization at our Ohio rebar mill, the hot band galvanizing line at our Kentucky sheet mill, the specialty cold rolling mill at our Arkansas sheet mill, the rebar micro mills in Missouri and Florida, and the merchant bar rolling mill at our Illinois bar mill. These targeted investments are enabling Nucor to earning a growing and profitable share of the markets we serve. The Hickman Arkansas specialty coal mill is an excellent example of Nucor's growth strategy. There are no other carbon steel mills in North America that match our new range of capabilities. In the second quarter, the Hickman Specialty Cold Mill ran at 118% of rated capacity, more than double its originally projected production ramp timeline. Since beginning operations in mid-2019, this project's life-to-date profitability also substantially exceeds its initial forecast. And the Hickman team is looking ahead to further expanding long-term earnings power as it begins the work of commissioning its third-generation flexible galvanizing line equipment. The state-of-the-art capabilities of these new assets will position Nucor to further grow our automotive footprint. We will provide our automotive customers the greenest, most advanced high-strength steels in the industry. These deals will provide our customers the ultimate solution that satisfies their needs long into the future. Our success bringing strategic projects like this online reflects the Nucor team's commitment to being effective stewards of our shareholders' valuable capital. Our growth investments are targeted at defined market objectives and opportunities to generate attractive returns with reduced volatility through the economic cycle. financial strength continues to be a critical underpinning to Nucor's ability to grow long-term earnings power. At the close of the second quarter, our cash, short-term investments, and restricted cash holdings totaled $3.2 billion. Compared with the end of the first quarter position, our second quarter cash position increased by about $226 million. That increase is after funding share repurchases of $614 million, cash dividends of $123 million, capital expenditures of $389 million, and a working capital expansion on the inventory receivables and payables line items, totaling about $945 million. Nucor's liquidity also includes our undrawn $1.5 billion unsecured revolving credit facility, which does not mature until April of 2023. Total long-term debt, including the current portion, was approximately $5.3 billion at quarter end. Gross debt as a percent of total capital was approximately 30%, while net debt was 12% of total capital and remains well below our targeted range of 18% to 23%. We remain materially underleveraged on this basis, but we anticipate that this will change somewhat as we deploy capital to acquire Cornerstone's IMP business and Hannibal Industries. We're excited to be moving forward with these new growth platforms. We expect that these businesses, along with the numerous internal growth projects we have been executing on, will materially add to Nucor's earnings and cash flow generation in the years ahead. Cash provided by operating activities for the first half of 2021 was $1.9 billion. Nucor's free cash flow, or cash provided by operations minus capital spending, was $1.2 billion. Nucor's financial strength and robust through-the-cycle cash flow allows for a consistent, balanced approach to capital allocation. We now estimate total year capital spending of approximately $1.8 billion. Each of our three most significant capital projects, the expansion and modernization of the Gallatin Kentucky Sheet Mill, the Generation 3 flexible galvanizing line at the Hickman Arkansas Sheet Mill, and the Greenfield-Brandenburg Kentucky Plate Mill remain on schedule. At Brandenburg, the timing of some equipment deliveries has been delayed, but overall the project remains on schedule for late 2022 commissioning. During the second quarter, we continue to see attractive value in our shares, repurchasing 6.765 million shares at an average cost of approximately $91 per share. Over the first half of this year, New Corseri purchases totaled more than 12 million shares at an average cost of about $75 per share. Shares outstanding have been reduced by approximately 3% from the year-end 2020 level. For the first half of 2021, total cash returned to shareholders through dividends and share purchases totaled just under $1.2 billion, representing approximately 47% of net earnings for the period. As we have said previously, we intend to return a minimum of 40% of our net income to new core shareholders. We are rewarding shareholders with substantial cash returns while continuing to invest for future profit growth and maintaining a strong balance sheet. Turning to the outlook for the third quarter of 2021, we are encouraged by a number of positive factors impacting our markets. As Leon mentioned, we see improving or stable market conditions for the vast majority of the end use markets served by Nucor. In fact, order backlogs at most of our businesses suggest strength well into 2022. Further supporting our optimistic outlook, inventories throughout the supply chain remain lean. We expect earnings in the third quarter of 2021 to again set a new record. Compared to the second quarter, we expect earnings growth at all three of our segments, most notably our steel mill segment. Additionally, with our expectation of a strong fourth quarter, we believe second half of 2021 earnings will exceed first half of 2021 earnings. Nucor's record results highlight the success of our 27,000 team members, building a stronger and more profitable Nucor. Our team's 2021 performance is simply outstanding. We remain excited by the opportunities ahead for our company. We have great determination to deliver increasing long-term value for our shareholders. Living our culture means driving sustainable performance. Thank you for your interest in our company. Now we'd be happy to take your questions. Operator? Thank you.
spk04: And if you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, everyone, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for a quick moment. And we'll take our first question from Emily Chang with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
spk00: Good afternoon, Leon and Jim. Thanks for the update today. I'd like to start off with sort of the M&A strategy that you guys have at NUCOR. Clearly you've focused on sort of the downstream fabrication type of assets so far, but when you look ahead and think about the opportunity set that's out there, is it more the same type of assets that you've looked at currently, Could there be potential for steel production capacity consolidation or even further upstream?
spk05: Yeah, thanks for the question, Emily. You know, look, I would tell you broadly, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, our mission is to grow the core, expand beyond and live the culture. We see opportunities as we think about growing the core, and that's the expansions at our Hickman facility, galvanizing line to become the first EAF to be able to produce a full generation three steel for the automotive sector. It's an expansion at our Gallatin Sheet Mill in expanding that footprint into a more attractive returns in different sectors like automotive, energy, and our culmination with the largest single investment in New Course history, our plate mill in Brandenburg, Kentucky. That's going to be brought online next year. That's going to be located in the heart of the largest plate-consuming region in the United States. And from a timing perspective, as we think about the renewable energy market and sector, that mill is incredibly ideally positioned and well-suited to meet the demands of both onshore wind, but particularly offshore wind as that grows as a business. But we also see opportunities as we think about growth in the core outside of that. And so there are times that you're going to see Nucor continue to look within the framework of traditional steelmaking lanes that we've operated in for the last half a century, but also expanding beyond, and that is the recent acquisitions with both Cornerstone and Hannibal that fit Nucor's long-term strategic objectives of maximizing shareholder returns, but also, Emily, it's a focus on moving into markets that are truly growing. As you know, steel is a cyclical business, and in this industry, And what we see in those renewable space, what we see in the green economy and digital economy is a fast-growing and increasing market opportunity for Nucor to maximize and leverage its strength, its cultural stewardship, and to bring a leadership perspective into those businesses.
spk00: That's really helpful and makes sense. One quick follow-up. I know you mentioned updated timing or sort of a reiteration of the timing of the Brandenburg startup. Can you provide some similar details for the Gallatin hot band capacity expansion and the galvanizing line at Hickman, please? Thank you.
spk05: Yeah, I'll turn that to Dave Simovsky, our chief operating officer, to provide a little more color on both of those projects.
spk09: Yeah, both those projects are scheduled to come up at the end of this year. They're both still on target for that. As Jim and Leon both mentioned, we're real excited about the expanded capabilities that those projects will bring. Some recent projects that came up and the success that we've had that the team has shown and been able to do gives us a lot of confidence and a lot of excitement that these projects will come up and they'll come up running better than ever or faster than ever. If you think about the Gallatin galvanizing line, they're already running that at way past nameplate capacity. Jim mentioned Nicole Mill over in Arkansas running it higher than nameplate. Sedalia basically ran slightly higher than nameplate as well. And Florida's moving right on their heels. So very excited about the team and the team's capabilities of providing these projects, or bringing these projects online safely.
spk03: One clarification. When Dave said both these projects, I think he was referring to the Hickman, Gobline, and Gallatin. Brandenburg is not until late 2022. Yes, that's correct.
spk05: The final point, Emily, I'd like to share as we think about growth and really as a backdrop as Nucor filters through all of our strategic growth strategies is Nucor is not looking to build capacity. We're looking to build capability. And so as we think about our growth strategy, it's not about a volume play. It's about offering a differentiated value proposition for our customers to create, again, long-term shareholder value.
spk00: That's very clear. Looking forward to the update. Thanks, everyone. Thank you. Thank you.
spk04: And our next question will come from Carlos D'Alba with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
spk01: Thank you very much, everyone. Very solid quarter. So a couple of questions, if I may. One is on working capital, obviously. it consumed cash this quarter. How do you see that progressing in the second half of the year? Prices remain quite strong. Volume is also quite solid. So should we assume a similar run rate in the coming quarters or more of a stable stabilization at these levels? And then if I may ask if you have any comments about how the HPI operations perform and what is the outlook for prime scrap in the coming quarters, that would be great.
spk03: I'll take the first one, and I'll let Leon decide who's going to talk about DRI, not HBI. But working capital, that's okay. We look at working capital as inventory receivables and payables. It consumed over $900 million of cash in Q2. We expect that to moderate in the balance of the year. It's still going to require some increase. It'll depend on how much scrap prices go up, if they do. And, of course, we know sheet pricing is going up because of the way the CRU contracts are I think we just recently announced price increases in some of the products as well. So we'll see some price inflation that will cause working capital to go up further, but probably not at the same pace as we experienced in Q2.
spk05: Yeah, and on the second part, Carlos, I'm going to ask Doug Jefferson, our EVP of Raw Materials, to give you a little update on our two DRI facilities.
spk11: Hey, Carlos, both of our DRI facilities are operating very well. performing at world-class reliabilities and uptime. The quality is outstanding. We see the balance of the year being just pretty standard and routine, no excitement there. The prime scrap market, we see a pretty steady flow and kind of a leveling off of price in the prime scrap in there.
spk01: All right, excellent. Thank you very much, gentlemen.
spk05: Thanks, Carl.
spk01: DRI, yeah, not HBI. I've heard so much HBI recently. No worries.
spk04: All right, and up next, we'll hear from Kurt Woodworth with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
spk07: Yeah, thanks. Good afternoon, Leanne, Jim, Greg, everyone. Hope everyone's well.
spk05: Thank you. Good afternoon, Kurt.
spk07: First question I know, the sheep market seems to get you know, a lot of the positive press, but we've seen pretty significant recovery in the plate and most of the long product markets. And we've heard that some of the specialty beam sizes have actually been sold out for the next six to seven months. So I was just hoping if you could provide a little bit more color on, you know, what you're seeing across plate and long products and how you would kind of compare those markets, be it, you know, lead times, you know, backlog levels relative to what you're seeing in the sheep market.
spk05: Yeah, maybe I'll kick it off, and then, Al, if you want to dive in a little bit deeper on plate, and then, Rex, maybe on the sheet side. You know, it's a great point, and you're right. For a lot of obvious reasons, as we think about sheet, it does get a lot of press. It's a $60 million ton of your market. It's an important segment for Nucor. It's certainly front of mind as we think about the opportunities for us as we move more into the automotive sector. But to your point, as we think about the contrast, you know, and I've spent several of my years at the beam mill at Nucor-Yamato. You know, over the last decade or so, I would say Nucor-Yamato is averaged in that 70% utilization range. They're approaching 90% today, and we've not seen that for nearly a decade. And so the performance of that mill has been exemplary through that period, profitability-wise. But now in this market, we're seeing an incredible strength. Backlogs are improving, water conditions are improving in the forecast as we move, not just through the rest of the year, but in some cases well into 22 strength through the cycle in many of those groups. All of that is to say, none of that is to say, rather, or includes any thought of what a meaningful infrastructure bill being passed in the United States could do and include. And again, we have room, we have opportunity in terms of creating in generating more steel for that sector. But, you know, the same conditions exist in long products. Alan, why don't you touch on plate and then, again, Rex on sheet.
spk10: Yeah, thanks, Curt. I think Leon covered that really well. You know, construction is obviously a huge market for beans and it is for plate as well, and it speaks to the strength of non-res construction that we've seen all this year. A lot of that construction is centered on low-rise industrial, you know, warehouse distribution, data centers. You know, what's left to start showing some life is high-rise, which is only continued tailwinds for the B market. And the high-rise construction has been very, very slow the last year or so, but it's starting to show some signs of life. In the plate market specifically, really all markets are quite strong. The heavy ag market, Transportation with rail cars, even oil and gas is starting to come back now. That's been one of the weaker markets, but we're starting to see activity in oil and gas. In tank cars, you've got to move oil one way or another. If it's not in a pipeline, it's in a tank car. We see continued strength in the plate market. good balance between supply and demand. That's what drives the pricing of the product, and we see continued strength through the second half of this year and then some. Great, thanks. All right, Kirk.
spk02: Yeah. Yeah, Kirk, Rex Query on the sheet side. Just a couple comments to add. Very comparable to what Al mentioned, backlog remains very strong. To follow on a comment from Leon about building capability, not necessarily capacity, on the sheet side with the projects that Szymanski mentioned, that Dave mentioned, we've got both. We have the capabilities increasing at Hickman with the GAL, the capacity coming online at Gallatin. Sectors are strong, building construction, energy more on the renewable side that we see. We're squeezing some of our outages. We're not going to compromise our reliability, but we are pulling some days out when we can on our outages on the sheet size so that we're able to produce more. And, you know, auto is tepid right now. So we haven't seen that with the chip issues that are going on. So we see there's a future opportunity as that comes about to see strength in the future on that. So that's the sheet size.
spk07: Great, thanks. And as you think about, you know, longer term progression of the business becoming more value add and more specialty plate, you know, I assume that would drive incremental demand for higher quality metallics. And there's been a lot of debate in the market about, you know, shortage of private scrap and, you know, being overly dependent on, say, you know, peg iron from Russia and things like that. Do you think there's scope for additional investment into DRI or additional facilities to support DJJ? Just curious. how you think that fits in and how does that fit into also the carbon strategy? Thanks a lot, guys.
spk05: Yeah, thanks, Kurt. And look, I'll touch on and ask Jim or Doug to chime in. As we think about your framing, you're right. As we think about Nucor expanding and some of our competitors expanding further upstream into more value-added businesses, on the EAF side, the demand for prime is going to get tighter. And that is why Nucor long ago began a very thoughtful strategy and long-term strategy to control more of our metallics inventory. And that's why we built the facility in Louisiana. And again, I'm proud of the team. I'm proud of the work that they've done. For way too many years on this call, we shared one reliability issue after the next. Their downturn that they took back in 2019 to fix the reliability issues is manifested itself to what Doug shared earlier in terms of world-class reliability now operating not just in Trinidad, which has done for a long time, but now marrying that up with our capability in Louisiana. So under new course control, we have about 4.5 million tons of DRI metallics that are in our direct control, and that offers us a unique material advantage as we move forward. And as we think about expansion and the demand on the metallic side, is there opportunity? Yeah, I think there's some opportunity as we think about is there an opportunity in this country for certain integrated competitors to make pig iron in those facilities and have a sourced buyer in the United States? Absolutely. And Nucor would be absolutely supportive of that strategy. But, again, that's for them to sort through and work through. But, again, we're confident in our capability today.
spk03: I don't think there's much to add to that, Leon. I think you did a good job on that.
spk08: Thank you.
spk04: And now we'll hear from Phil Gibbs with KeyBank Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Thank you.
spk06: uh good afternoon good afternoon phil how are you doing well thanks very much uh what are your expectations right now uh in the third quarter versus the second quarter just in terms of overall steel volumes and they've obviously been very strong in the first half of the year sometimes you get seasonality sometimes you don't i know you're taking outages here and there so what what are your expectations just for the steel volumes
spk05: Yeah, look, I would tell you that we're expecting to add more slightly higher than what we saw in Q2, so not substantially greater, but we do see some improving in markets, and we think the opportunity is there for us to run a little bit stronger in Q3.
spk06: Okay. And then I did notice just on your cash flow statement that you had some some inflows from taxes. And I know some of that was anticipated with putting some new assets into service. Can you just remind us, Jim, how much you have left in terms of cash tax avoidance, maybe for the balance of the year and then 2022?
spk03: I'm sorry, I got interrupted. Ask me again, Phil.
spk06: No, I just said I noticed on the cash flow statement that you had some cash tax inflows. So you avoided some cash taxes in the first half of the year. I think it was around $300 million from memory. What do you have in the back half, if anything, in terms of the difference between your effective and cash taxes, and what could that inflow be, if anything? And then in 2022, as Gallatin comes into service, is there more cash tax inflows coming from that?
spk03: I don't have it at my fingertips. Paul's right here, and he's trying to whisper to me, and I'm not understanding him. Paul, go ahead and give him the number.
spk08: It's $250 million about this year, Phil, and probably about another $250 million or so in 2022 from accelerated depreciation benefits.
spk03: But, Phil, the number you saw in the statement of cash flow, just to be clear, that's not initially that exactly. It's more the timing of our accrual versus the payments we make quarterly. So I wouldn't construe that as purely being related to the benefits we get from accelerated depreciation on those capital investments. Okay.
spk06: Okay. So the $250,000, just take the apportionment. Go ahead.
spk03: We're going to get $250,000 of benefit in what we pay versus what we accrue this year and $250,000 next year. But it's not just as simple as looking at that line in the statement of cash flows to see it.
spk06: Okay. And then in terms of end demand, I know you had said a lot of your end market's in the right direction right now. Automotive has been sort of squishy given the pushouts in the second quarter and some of the downtime the manufacturers have taken. One of your competitors earlier today said that they had to withhold some volume and kept in their inventory that they hope to let later this year. I mean, any thoughts in terms of what you all are seeing on automotive and what have the signals been and what are you planning for? Because it's been very tough to read from our standpoint.
spk05: Yeah, look, let me begin with the kind of the backdrop of, you know, as we think about semiconductors and one of the things that I think most Americans have learned through this pandemic is, you know, this nation needs to be a nation that builds and makes things again. And we've got to restore manufacturing in this country, whether it be pharma, PPE, medical equipment, devices, and semiconductors. But directly to answer your question, you think about the days on hand in the automotive world of about 27 days on hand. Inventory numbers are staggering low. We think about the rental car fleets across this nation. It's going to take a long time to replenish the dealer inventory networks as well as the rental car side. But as we mentioned, our investment strategies and our move in automotive is really exciting for Nucor. We're about 1.5 million tons today into the automotive sector, and our focus is to, in the next several years, double that. Our OEM relationships that we've built over the years, now becoming General Motors Supplier of the Year, back-to-back-to-back years, three years in a row. Our team has done a phenomenal job. I couldn't be more proud of the work that's done. And so while I do think we're going to see some constraints, obviously you're reading the headlines as we are and talking to our customers, you know, there's going to be a lot of pressure, right? The GM announced they're going to take some downtime on some of their Silverados and building out of their pickup trucks. None of that is by design, right? It's because they can't get the parts that they need. So while it'll have an overall material impact to the industry, Nucor's volumes are not significantly off, and we have a unique platform where our 14 OEM direct customers that we have today are asking Nucor to take bigger shares. And that is, again, an exciting opportunity as we think about marrying up the investment strategy to where our long-term goals want to be in automotive.
spk06: Thanks, Leon. I appreciate that. If I could ask one more question. Kind of a two-part, I guess, what are you seeing right now in the oil and gas sector? I think one of your competitors essentially said the drilling side is getting better and the transmission side is wonky because of some failed pipelines. And then what are you also seeing in the SPQ supply chain? Thanks very much.
spk05: Sure. Maybe we'll begin with Ian. Chad, if you want to maybe just provide a little backdrop. Chad Unimark is responsible for our engineered bar group. And, Chad, why don't we start there, and then we'll touch on the oil and gas.
spk12: Yeah, thanks, Leon and Phil. Yeah, overall, the SBQ market, which probably lagged a lot of our markets as we came into 2021, we're starting to see that strength come back. I would classify it as becoming strong and getting stronger, led by auto to a part. Obviously, we talked about some of the constraints on auto, but a heavy truck, transportation, heat, heavy equipment, all those things we're starting to see pick up, even though all in
spk05: Yeah, and, you know, Phil, I just say, I mean, to your question around oil and gas, obviously the weakest of the end markets through 20 and 21, you know, obviously ongoing recovery in energy prices suggest improving OCTG and line pipe demand ahead. Difficult to forecast as we move forward. We do see signs of life and some improved activities there, but, you know, I think of the end markets we serve, you know, certainly the most significant or the longest to recover. I think that'll continue through the rest of this year as we move into 22. We're cautiously optimistic that it will continue to improve.
spk06: Thanks, everyone.
spk05: Thank you.
spk04: And that concludes our QA session for today. I'll turn the call back over to Mr. Leon Topalian for any additional or closing remarks.
spk05: Thank you. I'd like to conclude today by once again thanking our Nucor teammates for your focused commitment to living our culture and how we take care of our team, customers, shareholders, and for delivering on our most important value, the health, safety, and well-being of the entire Nucor family. Thank you for your interest in our company, and have a great day.
spk04: And this concludes today's call. We do thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.
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