speaker
Scott
Chief Financial Officer

in our earnings release are based on current expectations. Actual results or events may differ materially from such statements and guidance, and Quantix undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement to reflect new information or events. For a more detailed description or a forward-looking statement disclaimer and a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, please see our earnings release issued yesterday and posted to our website. I'll now turn the call over to George for his prepared remarks.

speaker
George Wilson
President & CEO

Thanks, Scott, and good morning to everyone joining the call. I'm encouraged by what we were able to achieve in 2025, despite a challenging macroeconomic environment. Throughout the year, we executed on a disciplined strategy centered on operational rigor, cost efficiency, and long-term value creation. We successfully resegmented our business to better align with market opportunities. We established new commercial and operational excellence teams to drive improved performance, and we delivered synergy realization above our original $30 million commitment. In addition, we intensified our focus on working capital efficiency and free cash flow generation, while further strengthening our balance sheet. Most importantly, we also continued to improve our safety performance, positioning the company at a world-class standard. which is a critical foundation for sustainable operational reliability and future growth. These achievements collectively reinforce our confidence in the company's future. I'll now provide a brief commentary on the broader macro environment, followed by a summary of our quarterly performance before turning the call back over to Scott for a more detailed financial review. From a macro perspective, the market continues to face demand headwinds. Globally, affordability remains a significant challenge as inflationary cost pressures and ongoing housing inventory shortages continue to drive pricing higher. In the U.S., these factors, combined with a wait-and-see approach ahead of anticipated federal reserve rate cuts, have kept many consumers on the sidelines. We expect this dynamic to persist into 2026, which we believe could result in a generally flattish demand environment overall. Looking ahead, Further interest rate movements, broader economic conditions, and regional supply demand imbalances will ultimately determine whether demand strengthens or remains subdued. That said, we continue to believe the long-term underlying fundamentals of the residential housing market are positive. Demographic trends, household formation, and the persistent structural housing shortage all point to substantial latent demand, even if near-term conditions are causing consumers to delay purchasing decisions. These same long-term indicators form the basis of the profitable growth strategy that we presented at our investor day last February. Our thesis remains intact, and the strategic initiatives we outlined are still progressing as planned. While near-term macro pressures have impacted recent results, we remain confident in our long-term outlook and our ability to capitalize on the opportunities ahead. Now for a brief summary of Q4. Market conditions and order demand tracked in line with our expectations during the fourth quarter of 2025. Volumes in our hardware solution segment were up approximately 1%, and volumes in our custom solution segment were essentially flat compared to the prior year. However, volumes were pressured in our extruded solution segment, mainly driven by weaker demand across our European and international markets, where macroeconomic conditions remain more challenging. Operationally, adjusted EBITDA was impacted by lower volumes in the extruded solution segment as well as costs associated with addressing the operational issue at our window and door hardware facility in Monterey, Mexico. As discussed on our prior call, the manufacturing issue was identified in Q3 and we quickly determined the root cause and then proceeded to implement a comprehensive remediation plan to correct the issue and stabilize the plan. We noted then that the plan would take time to fully implement and we continue to work closely with all affected customers to minimize disruption. I'm pleased to report that we are slightly ahead of our initial timeline and now expect to return to normal operating conditions early in calendar year 2026. Turning to the balance sheet and cash flows, we are extremely pleased with the progress we are making. As we continue to advance our initiatives around working capital optimization and return on net assets, we are seeing consistent free cash flow generation, This strong cash performance has enabled us to further reduce debt while also being opportunistic in repurchasing shares in the open market. Our current capital allocation priorities remain unchanged. We will continue to focus on debt repayment while opportunistically repurchasing shares when open trading windows allow. Despite the current market headwinds, We believe the resegmentation of our business combined with synergy realization and operational improvements underway across our facilities position us to deliver value to our customers and support our long-term profitable growth strategy. I'll now turn the call over to Scott, who will discuss our financial results in more detail.

speaker
Scott
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, George. On a consolidated basis, we reported net sales of $489.8 million during the fourth quarter of 2025. which represents a decrease of approximately 0.5% compared to 492.2 million for the same period of 2024. We reported net sales of 1.84 billion for the full year, which represents an increase of approximately 43.8% compared to 1.28 billion for 2024. The increase for the full year was primarily driven by the contribution from the time in acquisition that closed on August 1st, 2024. We reported net income of $19.6 million, or 43 cents per diluted share, during the three months ended October 31st, 2025, compared to a net loss of $13.9 million, or 30 cents per diluted share, during the three months ended October 31st, 2024. For the full year 2025, we reported a net loss of $250.8 million, or $5.43 per diluted share, mainly due to the non-cash goodwill impairment reported in the third quarter, compared to net income of 33.1 million, or 90 cents per diluted share for the full year 2024. On an adjusted basis, net income was 38 million, or 83 cents per diluted share during the fourth quarter of 2025, compared to 38.5 million, or 82 cents per diluted share during the fourth quarter of 2024. Adjusted net income was 106.4 million, or $2.30 per diluted share for fiscal 2025, compared to $97.5 million or $2.66 per diluted share for fiscal 2024. The adjustments being made to EPS are primarily for transaction and advisory fees, amortization of the step-up for purchase price adjustments on inventory and AR related to the time and acquisition, restructuring charges, goodwill impairment, amortization expense related to intangible assets, a one-time depreciation adjustment, pension settlement refund, and foreign currency translation impacts. Note that our full-year effective tax rate decreased from 24.3% at Q3 to 22.6% at year-end. Q4 delivered lower pre-tax income, excluding discrete, and the level of unfavorable permanent tax adjustments decreased relative to our Q3 estimates. With a smaller income base and lower unfavorable permanent items, the overall blended tax rate was reduced for the full year. On an adjusted basis, EBITDA for the quarter decreased by 12.6% to $70.9 million, compared to $81.1 million during the same period of last year. For the full year 2025, adjusted EBITDA increased by 33.2% to $242.9 million, which reflects the contribution from the timing acquisition and is a new record for Quantex, compared to $182.4 million in 2024. On a consolidated basis, the decrease in adjusted earnings for the fourth quarter of 2025 was mainly due to lower volumes related to ongoing macroeconomic uncertainty, coupled with low consumer confidence in the operational challenges at our plant in Monterrey, Mexico that were previously mentioned. The increase in adjusted earnings for the full year 2025 were primarily attributable to the contribution from the time and acquisition combined with the realization of cost synergies. now results by operating segment. We generated net sales of $226.9 million in our hardware solution segment for the fourth quarter of 2025, an increase of 1.4% compared to $223.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2024. We estimate that volumes were up about 1%, reflecting low growth in the international hardware and North American screens product lines. Pricing was flat in this segment, The tariff impact was about 1%. Foreign exchange was about a 1% benefit, offset by a negative impact of approximately 2% for Monterey versus Q4 of 2024. For the full year, we reported net sales of $841.7 million in our hardware solution segment, an increase of 96.7% compared to $427.8 million in 2024. The increase was mainly due to the contribution from the time of acquisition. Adjusted EBITDA was $29 million in this segment for the fourth quarter, or 9.3% lower than prior year, mainly due to an approximately $8 million negative impact related to the operational challenges at our hardware plant in Monterrey, Mexico, partially offset by a favorable cost roll. We made the decision to move to a 24-7 operation in Monterrey in September, which increased labor and expedited freight costs for the quarter, above our initial estimate, but had the positive impact of enabling us to reduce the backlog in a more efficient manner. Adjusted EBITDA increased by 72.7% to $88.8 million in this segment for the full year, driven by the contribution from the timing acquisition. Our extruded solution segment generated revenue of $168.6 million in the fourth quarter, which represents a decrease of 6.4% compared to 180.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2024. We estimate that volumes were down approximately 8% year-over-year in this segment for the quarter, with pricing flat and a positive foreign exchange translation impact of about 1.5%. For the full year, we reported net sales of 646.6 million in our extruded solution segment, an increase of 15.5% compared to $560 million in 2024. Again, the increase was driven by the contribution from the timing acquisition. Adjusted EBITDA declined to $31.7 million in this segment for the quarter versus $37.9 million during the same period of last year, mainly due to decreased operating leverage related to lower volumes in addition to an unfavorable sales mix. For the full year, adjusted EBITDA came in at $123.4 million in this segment, which represented an increase of 10%. We reported net sales of $103.4 million in our custom solution segment during the quarter, which represented growth of 2.1% compared to prior year. We estimate that volumes were flat and price increased by approximately 2% in this segment for the quarter. For the full year, we reported net sales of $388.2 million, which represents an increase of 25.5% year over year. Adjusted EBITDA declined to $10.7 million from $15.6 million in this segment for the quarter, mostly due to higher raw material costs and index pricing. Adjusted EBITDA increased by 43.2% to $42.9 million from $30 million in this segment for the year, which was driven by the contribution from the time of acquisition. Moving on to cash flow in the balance sheet. Cash provided by operating activities increased significantly to 88.3 million for the fourth quarter of 2025, which compares to 5.5 million for the fourth quarter of 2024. Cash provided by operating activities for the full year 2025 increased by about 86% to 164.9 million, compared to 88.8 million for the full year 2024. We maintained focus on managing working capital throughout the year, and made progress moving some of the legacy time in businesses towards more of a make-to-order model, which decreased inventory and improved cash conversion cycle days. We generated free cash flow of 102.3 million for the full year 2025, an increase of about 98% compared to 2024. As a result, we were able to repay 75 million of the debt in 2025. In addition, our liquidity increased by 10% to $372.2 million in the fourth quarter of 2025 compared to the third quarter of 2025, consisting of $76 million in cash on hand plus availability under our senior secured revolving credit facility due 2029, less letters of credit outstanding. As of October 31st, 2025, our leverage ratio of net debt to last 12 months adjusted EBITDA was unchanged at 2.6 times as compared to the prior quarter. The debt covenant leverage ratio calculation used for quarterly compliance with our lenders is defined in amendment number one to our second amended and restated credit agreement. This ratio was 2.5 times as of October 31st, 2025 and excludes real estate leases that are considered finance leases under U.S. GAAP and is calculated on a pro forma basis to include last 12 months adjusted EBITDA from the time in acquisition, 30 million of EBITDA for the synergy target related to the acquisition, cash only from domestic subsidiaries. Since we now have four full quarters of owning time and have realized the full $30 million of synergies that our lenders gave us credit for, we don't intend to reference the debt covenant leverage ratio going forward. As George mentioned in our earnings release, our long-term view continues to be favorable as the underlying fundamentals for the residential housing market remain positive. However, while we enter fiscal 2026 with a cautious outlook due to the ongoing macroeconomic challenges, we are optimistic that demand for our products will improve as consumer confidence is restored over time. Our current view is that fiscal 2026 could be flat compared to fiscal 2025 from a revenue and adjusted EBITDA perspective with puts and takes, but the first half of 2026 may be more challenged than the first half of 2025 which would imply a somewhat improved second half year over year. Having said that, and consistent with the last few years, based on current macro indicators, recent conversations with our customers, limited transparency, and varying opinions on the macroeconomic outlook for 2026, we are again taking a measured approach to guidance. We intend to revisit guidance for 2026 when we report earnings for the first quarter. We will stay focused on the things that we can control with an emphasis on generating cash to continue paying down debt and opportunistically repurchasing our stock. In the meantime, please use the following cadence for the first quarter of 2026 versus the fourth quarter of 2025. As a reminder, due to the typical seasonality of our business, our first quarter is usually the weakest quarter of the year. With that said, on a consolidated basis, we expect revenue to be down 16% to 18% in the first quarter of 2026 compared to the fourth quarter of 2025. Adjusted EBITDA margin, again on a consolidated basis, is expected to be down 800 to 825 basis points in the first quarter of 2026 compared to the fourth quarter of 2025 as lower volumes impact operating leverage. Notwithstanding the significant progress we have made towards stabilizing the operation in Monterey, we also expect a negative impact of about 3 million during the first quarter of 2026 related to that plant. In addition, the following modeling assumptions should be reasonable for the first quarter of 2026. SGNA of about 73 million, DNA of about 26 million, adjusted DNA, excluding intangible amortization, of about $16 million, which should be used to calculate adjusted EPS, interest expense of approximately $12.75 million, and a tax rate of 23.5%. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. At this time, we would like to conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. One moment for our first question. Our first question will come from Julio Romero from Sudoti. Your line is open.

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Julio Romero
Analyst, Sudoti

Thanks. Hey, good morning, George and Scott.

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George Wilson
President & CEO

Good morning.

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Julio Romero
Analyst, Sudoti

Scott, did I hear you correctly that the negative EBITDA impact in the fourth quarter from the Monterey challenges was $8 million? And if so, your EBITDA margins for the hardware solution segment would have been in the 16% range in the quarter?

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Scott
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, so if you recall in the last quarterly call, we talked about Monterey being about a $5 million negative impact in Q3. We estimated at the time that 4Q impact would be about the same at $5 million, but the reality was since we went to a 24-7 operation and higher labor costs, higher expedited freight costs, that ended up being around $8 million. And then we alluded to about a $3 million hit we expect in the first quarter. But to your point, yes, it would have been better, but we also had a favorable cost roll impact in the fourth quarter that impacted or helped the hardware solution segment.

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Julio Romero
Analyst, Sudoti

Understood. And the $3 million drag expected in the first quarter, does your current kind of informal outlook assume that goes to zero beyond the first quarter?

speaker
Scott
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, that's our expectation.

speaker
George Wilson
President & CEO

Yeah, our decision to add the 24-7 and do some different things in the plant to speed up that recovery plan, that was really the intent to drive the backwater levels down faster than we anticipated and we're having some very good success at making progress towards that goal.

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Julio Romero
Analyst, Sudoti

Well, it sounds prudent that you're able to get your arms around it, for sure. Maybe thinking about the informal outlook, does your current informal outlook assume, what does that assume from a market volume perspective in terms of the the volume you'll get in the first half and the amount of procurement synergies you'll be able to realize as a result.

speaker
Scott
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, the way I would, I mean, obviously somewhat premature until we come out with official guidance, but the way we're looking at it right now for next year from a revenue standpoint, if we say flattish, maybe flat to down volumes with flat to up pricing is how I would look at that. But then on the EBITDA side, the positives would be obviously less Mexico cost next year plus some additional synergies offset by higher SG&A due to inflation, higher benefits, and then bonus accrued at target. That's how I would look at it.

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Julio Romero
Analyst, Sudoti

Understood. Last one for me is you were able to pay down debt pretty aggressively here in the fiscal year. You also repurchased roughly $3 million of stock here in the fourth quarter. But the shares have been pretty depressed here. Can you just talk about if you were limited by the open repurchase window timing at all during the fourth quarter? And then also if you could comment on whether you've been active on the buyback kind of post-quarter end.

speaker
Scott
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So we were active somewhat in 4Q. I think we made a conscious decision in the second half of last year to really focus more on paying down debt because the number – Out of pretty much every investor call we had since the last two quarters, there was a real focus on net leverage. Even though our balance sheet's in good shape, we think it's very healthy, there's this sentiment out there amongst investors that anything above two times net leverage is a concern. So with that in mind, we chose to pay down debt, even though our shares, we still feel, are very cheap. Looking ahead, going forward, clearly we will be opportunistic. We don't have big windows in between quarters in which we can be in the market, so keep that in mind as well. The other thing to think about is the first quarter and really the second quarter are low watermarks for the year, so we're trying to balance cash flow generation, stock repurchases, also with debt paydown. We've typically been a net borrow in the first quarter in the past, so we just try to balance all of that. Hope that helps.

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Julio Romero
Analyst, Sudoti

Thanks for the call, guys. I appreciate it.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Stephen Ramsey from Thomson Research Group. The line is open.

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Stephen Ramsey
Analyst, Thomson Research Group

Hi, good morning. Morning. I wanted to think about for 2026, with the persistently challenging demand backdrop more recently and looking forward, are you seeing any irrational competitive response in certain geographies or certain product categories?

speaker
George Wilson
President & CEO

Stephen, we really haven't seen a lot of what I would call irrational pricing where people are going to the market to try to fill up volume. We just haven't seen that. And I think you know, there's still a mentality in the marketplace that, you know, supply chain risk for all people is of great priority and importance. So, you know, I think our customers evaluate those type of pricing decisions and have to balance, you know, is it the right move to just move to another supplier based on price? There's much more involved in those types of decisions right now, and And I would say that that's the truth globally. So things like being able to supply facilities from multiple ship-to points, in a lot of cases, offset price. Now, with that being said, I think, you know, as commodity prices stabilize or come down, I think we will see pricing pressure. But we're really not seeing anything that I would call irrational at this point.

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Stephen Ramsey
Analyst, Thomson Research Group

Okay. That's great to hear. And then also looking at 2026 and the various product components within each segment, are there any certain products that you expect to be better than the flattish level for the year?

speaker
George Wilson
President & CEO

You know, I think the one area that is being potentially impacted by Tariffs and everything that's going on in the macro drop would be the wood components part of our business that falls under the custom solutions group. As those tariffs continue to hang out there and be uncertain, I think that there's an unknown, but if the tariffs stick at a higher level, there could be some opportunity to insource that demand back into the U.S. to mitigate tariff risk around the globe. So that could be an area of upside. Everything else, I think, right now, it's a wait and see. But that's the one area where there could be some potential opportunity.

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Stephen Ramsey
Analyst, Thomson Research Group

Okay. And then on the benefits of the resegmentation, this was a talking point from the Investor Day. You mentioned it. Again, are there any early positive takeaways and results with the resegmentation so far? Is there any benefits embedded in the 2026 EBITDA outlook? And then maybe any of the nuances by segment on the sales or margin side with this resegmentation?

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George Wilson
President & CEO

Yeah. It's still a little early. We're only now two quarters into this, but what I would tell you, I think we're already seeing operational improvements by the sharing of best practices. For example, in the extruded solutions group where you had silicone extrusion, butyl extrusion, and then you layer in the Schlegel piece of the business that we acquired from time and that you know, have the completely different type of material that they extrude, but it's an extrusion process. And so the sharing of best practices in that division is already paying some operational dividends. I think, you know, we're starting to see and put together a plan on, you know, what our global footprint will look like. That's long-term in nature, but I think we've got a really good feel and good opportunities for what I would say are mid- and longer-term opportunities to continue to grow, to better serve our customers, provide new products and new services. My biggest excitement right now relies around the process improvements as well as some of the innovation that's being driven through that. I we probably exceeded my expectations from those points already.

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Stephen Ramsey
Analyst, Thomson Research Group

It's good to hear. Thank you.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question... Our next question will come from the line of Ruben Garner from Benchmark. Your line is open.

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Ruben Garner
Analyst, Benchmark

Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. So... The Mexico issue seemed to be on track, kind of cleared up faster than you expected, which is great to hear. George, just curious, you know, it's been a few months since that came about. Can you go into a little detail about the efforts you guys have made internally to make sure that there weren't risk of similar or other issues at different facilities from time and

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George Wilson
President & CEO

Yeah, so obviously, you know, being a manufacturing company, things happen in plants. And, you know, we identified the issue fairly quick. And when we did, we put a plan in to remediate. And as you mentioned, I'm very happy and pleased with the efforts to get to there. I think we did a great job of mitigating the issue in a relatively quick period of time. Obviously, as a part of that, you know, and I wouldn't just – frame it around the time in acquisition, but we looked at every one of our facilities and said, do these types of, uh, scenarios exist anywhere? So we, we did a deep dive on, on that. That's part of, you know, what we, we did deem our 8D, uh, problem solving philosophy where we go in and we try to identify any like situations and, uh, We have not found that anywhere, and we spent an enormous amount of time and effort making sure that the issues that we identified were not going to be replicated or have the risk of being replicated at any other facility. So I feel pretty good about the controls we have in place, that we won't see it anywhere else, and I feel really good about the issues to fix the situation in a relatively short period of time to eliminate this on a go-forward basis in Monterey.

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Ruben Garner
Analyst, Benchmark

Great. And then a clarification on the comments for Q1. Scott, did you say SG&A of $73 million? And if so, maybe I've got it wrong in my model, but that's a big change from where it was a year ago. I think $20 million, almost higher on a similar revenue number and also higher than what you just did in the third and fourth quarter. So can you just talk about What's going on there? Is there anything one time? Is that a good run rate for the full year on a quarterly basis?

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Scott
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think that's a pretty decent run rate on a full year. I mean, when you compare it to the later part of last year, one of the main things that sticks out is accruing at target now this year versus last year when we knew halfway through the year we weren't going to hit those targets, so SG&A came down. There was a couple one-time benefits last year. year, first quarter, just related to some issues from the legacy time in business. And then clearly when you go into a new year, you budget for higher benefit costs, higher inflationary measures, merit increases, things of that nature that just increase SG&A. Now clearly, with that in mind, our job though as managers is to the extent we can operationally become more efficient to offset increased costs as we move through the year.

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Ruben Garner
Analyst, Benchmark

Great. And I'm going to sneak one more in. You talked about potentially a little bit of price. I assume some of that is carryover from actions throughout this year, maybe related to tariffs and that sort of thing. What are you seeing on the cost side in terms of cost of goods, is that pretty stable? I guess, ultimately, what does price cost look like in your outlook for 26?

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George Wilson
President & CEO

Yeah, I'll take this one, Ruben. Really, from a cost basis, things have, I would say, generally stabilized. There's a couple areas across the different product lines, especially around oil type of base products, anything that's going through a cracked chemical type of process. I think we anticipate we'll see continued inflationary pressure there. But overall, materials have stabilized and the supply of those materials have stabilized. So to be determined. You know, tariffs do have a big impact right now, but that seems to have softened a little bit or at least not changing on a daily basis.

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Ruben Garner
Analyst, Benchmark

Great. Thank you, guys. Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, but don't talk to me.

speaker
Scott
Chief Financial Officer

You as well. Appreciate it.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Once again, that's star 11 for questions. One moment for our next question. Next question comes from Kevin Ganey from Thompson Davis and Company. Your line is open.

speaker
Kevin Ganey
Analyst, Thompson Davis and Company

Good morning, George and Scott. Congratulations on the quarter. Thanks. Maybe we could Talk about the synergies to start first and how you guys are thinking how quickly you might be able to achieve the $15 million to get to the ultimate $45 million. And then maybe if you could break down how you're approaching those synergies from like a cost procurement footprint perspective.

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Scott
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think to get at the remaining... Really, it's a little less than 15 because we did realize some in fourth quarter of 2024. But the way we're looking at fiscal 2026, and I mentioned it earlier about we do expect some additional synergies, probably in the $5 to $10 million range. And the range is really because of volumes. If volumes are better, then we could be towards the higher end of that range because of procurement synergies. If volumes are worse, it could be on the lower end. So there is a range there. going into 2027 there's still some more synergies that we could get at outside of that there are some specific timing of when synergies may hit in 2026 really more on the sgna side uh and i'll just i'll leave it at that sounds good and then um as you guys think about the pricing gains that you got in 2025 how much of that was really inflation linked

speaker
Kevin Ganey
Analyst, Thompson Davis and Company

versus kind of structurally? And do you think you have any concerns around givebacks in 26?

speaker
George Wilson
President & CEO

You know, as I look at pricing, I think we've been very focused on how to best serve our customers. And I think that's always been our sales philosophy. So, you know, our price increases that we pass on in the market really do revolve around inflationary pressures. And so, our job and our philosophy with our customers is any sort of margin improvement on our part shouldn't come at the detriment of our customers. Our job is to pass along costs as true costs and then for us to improve our margins, that's all driven by operational performance. I think that that's our philosophy and how to be a good supplier and we are not predatory in any way, shape or form in terms of how we price to our customers. So in that respect, I think our ability to hold on to price should be pretty strong because I don't think we're out there and we have all the data in the world to support the inflationary costs that we're passing along. I think we're proud of the fact that that is the approach we take to pricing because I think long-term that's what builds relationships with our customers and we'll continue to do that on a go-forward basis. Again, long answer to your question, but I think the ability to hold on to price should be pretty strong because it's supported by what we've eaten in terms of cost increases.

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Kevin Ganey
Analyst, Thompson Davis and Company

Might be a long answer, but I think it was a great answer. Maybe if you guys could talk about demand as well from kind of parsed between new residential versus repair and remodel demand. and whether one feels stronger than the other, and how you're thinking about it for 26.

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George Wilson
President & CEO

Yeah, I think, you know, for us, our products are fairly agnostic to either of the markets. So, you know, we determine that really by our customer mix. I think right now we're seeing really similar type of impacts on both R&R and new construction. I do believe that the R&R piece will be what we see that leads, at least for us, because we're weighted more to R&R. I think as we see new construction start to improve, the interesting metric that we'll keep our eye on is the size of homes and multi-family versus single family and what does that mix look like, the number of window openings in a house, you know, impacts the volume impact of new construction for us. So I think R&R will be the leader on any sort of recovery and that the new construction will be, again, more driven by interest rates and the movements of the Fed as well as, you know, availability and affordability of the new housing market. So, yeah. They're both impacted pretty equal, though, right now from what we see.

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Kevin Ganey
Analyst, Thompson Davis and Company

Appreciate the color. And then one final one just on cash flow. You guys typically burn cash in the January quarter. Is there any reason to expect you wouldn't have slightly negative free cash flow in Q1?

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Scott
Chief Financial Officer

I mean, it's possible. I think it just depends on how December and January play out. I mean, as we sit here today, November came in pretty much as expected, so no surprises yet.

speaker
George Wilson
President & CEO

The one thing on cash flow that, you know, again, a lot of it will depend on volume.

speaker
Scott
Chief Financial Officer

And the timing of CapEx.

speaker
George Wilson
President & CEO

Yeah, CapEx. The other thing that happened this year, it wasn't a banner 2025, so as we've stated, incentive payouts to the executive team and the organization wasn't as high as it typically would be, so it was pretty much under target. So the cash flow outlay to any sort of incentive payment is going to be lower in Q1 than we've typically seen. So this is one of the lower incentive payouts that we've seen in the past future. So that should help cash flow in Q1.

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Kevin Ganey
Analyst, Thompson Davis and Company

Sounds good, guys. I appreciate it.

speaker
George Wilson
President & CEO

Yeah, thanks.

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Operator
Conference Operator

In the queue, I would like to turn it back over to George Wilson for any closing remarks.

speaker
George Wilson
President & CEO

I'd like to thank everyone for joining. I want to take a moment to wish everyone a very safe and happy holiday, and we look forward to providing the next update to everyone in March. Thank you.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a great day.

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