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spk03: Good morning, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the OGE Energy Corp third quarter 2022 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode, and after the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1, that's star 1-1, on your telephone, and then you'll hear an automated message confirming that your hand is raised. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded, and I will now hand the conference over to your first speaker, Jason Bailey, Director of Investor Relations at OGE. Go ahead, Jason.
spk08: Thank you, Eric, and good morning, everyone, and welcome to OGE Energy Corp's third quarter 2022 earnings call. With me today, I have Sean Trosky, our Chairman, President, and CEO, and Brian Buckler, our CFO. In terms of the call today, we will first hear from Sean, followed by an explanation from Brian of financial results. And finally, as always, we will answer your questions. I'd like to remind you that this conference is being webcast and you may follow along at OGE.com. In addition, the conference call and accompanying slides will be archived following the call on that same website. Before we begin the presentation, I'd like to direct your attention to the Safe Harbor Statement regarding forward-looking statements. This is an SEC requirement for financial statements and simply states that we cannot guarantee forward-looking financial results, but this is our best estimate today. I will now turn the call over to Sean for his opening remarks. Sean? Thank you, Jason.
spk05: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Before we get started, I do want to reflect on the economic and inflationary pressures our customers and all of us are experiencing today. We understand our customers' concerns about household costs increasing across the board and understand that the rising cost of fuel to produce electricity contributes to the concerns our customers have about increasing energy bills. I'll talk about the specific actions we are taking after we discuss the quarter's results. Turning to our financial results, earlier this morning, we reported third quarter consolidated earnings of $1.31 per share. This includes utility earnings of $1.26 per share, a holding company loss of 3 cents, and earnings from natural gas operations of 8 cents. Our solid performance in this quarter is due to exceptional execution by our team, who worked to keep energy flowing to the grid during a very hot summer with upwards of 20 100-degree days across our service area. Unlike other areas of the country, there were no calls for public conservation to protect the grid. Our system is designed, our system is built, and it's operated for these conditions. And I'm incredibly proud of our team for their work 24 hours a day to keep the lights on for our customers. The third quarter was highly productive and was really a reflection of the investments and planning we undertake to be prepared. In the third quarter, we also completed the exit of our midstream investments with the final sale of our energy transfer units. While this will be the last time I discuss midstream financial results, I want to take a moment to reflect on the end of what has been a decade-long effort to close this part of our business and move forward. We've doubled down on business and economic growth in our service area and taken a measured approach to planning for the future to protect customers with equal focus on reliability and affordability. We continue to accomplish what we say we will do. setting us up to deliver strong results for our customers in the future. Our grid reliability, resiliency, and security work continues, including a multi-year initiative to underground lines that run over interstates and major highways. This year, we will underground approximately 30 lines, and by the end of 23, we anticipate having buried more than 100 of those lines across our service area. Undergrounding these lines both improves reliability and safety for customers, and emergency response vehicles during weather events. We continue to upgrade existing substations and build new substations to support our growing service area even amid supply chain constraints of equipment availability. We continue to see results from outages eliminated or significantly reduced as a result of enhanced distribution circuits. These investments continue to pay off for our customers and improve our restoration process saving hundreds of thousands of minutes during outages. Additionally, to support our service area, we continue to invest in our system to support local economic growth. One such investment nearing completion at the Port of Muskogee involves the construction of new transmission facilities that will enable approximately 900 megawatts of new load to serve local customers. As many of you are aware, we reissued the solar RFP given the favorable opportunities following the Inflation Reduction Act. As our service area continues to grow, combined with the increased reserve margin requirements, we will review the three active RFPs for long-term generation holistically to ensure our path forward meets those requirements and delivers reliable generation for our customers. And we'll provide an update once we review the results from all of the RFPs. The good news, as our communities are growing in Oklahoma and Western Arkansas. Even with the economic challenges facing our nation, this growth comes from their position of strength with lower than average unemployment and low rates for electric service. With fuel prices remaining at high levels, you've seen concern for grid reliability in some regions of the country as we head into winter. That's simply not true here. Our investments in generation and grid resiliency and reliability paid off this summer, and will continue to ensure our customers have reliable electric service in the future. We are committed to helping our customers during this tough economic season. With inflation continuing to rise, we are increasing communications to customers about how they can manage their energy use and monthly bill. Our weatherization program provides thousands of dollars of home upgrades at no additional cost to customers with household incomes at $60,000 or below. Our Silver Energy offers our customers 60 years of age and older a suite of options to lower their monthly bill and reduce their energy usage. Additional energy efficiency programs for residential and commercial customers deliver thousands of megawatt savings and help reduce our future generation needs. Our billing programs, average monthly billing, guaranteed flat bill in Oklahoma, levelized billing in Arkansas, give customers more predictable monthly bills and we have seen an increase in both of these programs this last quarter. Our teams also focused on connecting customers to bill assistance. This year alone, OG&E customers have received $30 million in bill assistance through federal, state, local agencies, as well as company-sponsored programs. We know today's macroeconomic environment creates challenges for our customers, and we are committed to keeping their bills as low as possible. Affordable rates with that outstanding service is a hallmark of who we are as we maintain our operational focus to deliver the life-sustaining and life-enhancing electricity our customers need. Our load forecast for 2022 continues to keep pace with the outstanding growth we experienced in 2021, and we expect growth of approximately 3% for the full year. Our long-term load forecast remains strong as our service area continues to grow. Our business and economic development efforts continue to pay dividends. Through the first half of 22, the 24 new projects secured and announced by our economic and business development partnerships will help add nearly 3,000 new jobs across the territory. This growth is all across our service area, from the expansion of a Coke fertilizer plant in Enid, Oklahoma, to the expansion by Cold Compass Storage in Mulberry, Arkansas. We know the cost of electricity is a significant factor that companies consider when deciding an expansion or relocation, and we continue to offer highly competitive rates when compared to others. We continue to work with communities and partners to advance innovation and technologies in Oklahoma and Arkansas. For example, we work with rural and low-income school districts to apply for the EPA Clean School Bus Program as part of IIJA. And just last week, The EPA announced $18 million was awarded for these schools. We're delighted to support these districts as they bring electric school buses to the state. I do want to close with a few important thoughts. First, the economies across our service area are growing. Unemployment rates are better than the national average. Business and economic development is active. And these communities are strong and continuing to grow stronger. And this leads me to talk about our greatest strengths. our employees. With all the economic development activity and reliability investments, our safety performance continues to excel. Just as last year, 2022 is on track to be one of the safest years on record. Our crews just recently returned from Florida after supporting restoration efforts following Hurricane Ian. One letter of many that I received about our team who went to Florida stood out. A gentleman from Melbourne, Florida, had been without power, and when our crew arrived to his neighborhood, he watched their dedication and professionalism as they worked together as a team both efficiently and effectively to get his electricity back on. It's what our people do every single day, and it's what we expect of them. But to receive a letter from someone who is not our customer but saw their excellence firsthand brought home for me once again how important our customer relationships are. And building on that example, to broaden recognition to all of our employees, Forbes Magazine recently named OGE Energy as the number two employer in the state of Oklahoma. We're not the largest employer in the state, but our employees live in the communities where they work, and we're integrally tied to the fabric of the community and the state. I'm incredibly proud of every person here and know their dedication to our customers and our purpose to energize life. And I'm grateful to work alongside them every day. So simply put, more and more families, more and more businesses are coming to our service area. This growth, combined with our continuous investment in reliability and resiliency, after all, it's Oklahoma and Arkansas, two of the most weather-prone states in the country. We have tremendous opportunities for many, many years to come. And we manage all of this through the lens of affordability for our customers. We worked hard over the last few years to create this growth for our communities, and we intend to keep it going. So with that, I'll turn the call over to Brian. Brian?
spk06: Thank you, Sean. Thank you, Jason, and good morning, everyone. Starting with third quarter results on slide five, we reported consolidated earnings of $1.31 per diluted share compared to $1.26 in the same period in 2021. OG&E, the electric utility, contributed earnings of $1.26 per share in the third quarter compared to $1.12 in the same period in 2021. The increase was primarily driven by higher sales volumes from strong load growth and warmer weather, as well as increased recoveries of capital investments. These favorable drivers were partially offset by expected higher depreciation on a growing asset base, as well as revised depreciation rates that became effective in July, consistent with the Oklahoma General Rate Review Order from the Commission. Our natural gas midstream segment contributed earnings of $0.08 per share in the third quarter, compared to earnings of $0.15 in the same period in 2021. The decrease in net income was primarily due to the elimination of equity in earnings of Enable, partially offset by a gain on our energy transfer units. I will discuss the completion of our exit from energy transfer in a moment. Other operations, including our holding company, experienced a loss of $0.03 per share compared to a loss of a penny in the same period in 2021. The increase in net loss is primarily due to the partial reversal of an interim period consolidating tax benefit that was recorded in the first quarter of 2022. For full year 2022, we now expect earnings at the electric utility to be in the range of $2.08 to $2.12 per diluted share and holding company earnings to be a loss of approximately two cents per share. Turn into economic indicators and load results on slide six. our customer count grew 1.2% over the past 12 months, in line with our expectations and reflecting the attractiveness of our service territory in Oklahoma and Arkansas. Our year-to-date weather normalized load growth remained strong at 2.4%, supported by the commercial, public authority, and oil field classes. Weather normalized residential volumes were below expectations with a decline of 1.1%, which we believe was impacted by customer conservation to reduce usage during the unusually hot weather. Taking a closer look at the commercial class, our service territory is experiencing especially strong business growth. For the third quarter, weather normalized growth for the commercial class was 11.6% higher than in 2021, driven by many industries, including data mining, agriculture, and manufacturing. For all customer groups, we are adjusting our full year total total weather normalized retail load growth forecast to be approximately 3%. This outstanding 2022 growth drives ever increasing confidence that 2023 load will again exceed the 1% load growth we've historically experienced, even before consideration of potential upside from incremental load from data mining companies. Moving to slide seven, as Sean mentioned, we completed the exit of the remainder of the energy transfer units in the third quarter. we are very pleased with our prudent measured sell-down of the shares during the year. We no longer have an interest in midstream operations, which should allow our investors to better focus on the true value of what we believe is a premium electric utility business. Let me now briefly update you on a topic garnering a lot of attention in our industry, interest rate risk. First, we have less than $200 million of floating rate debt. Secondly, with respect to refinancing risk, we have no fixed rate debt maturities through 2026. And in 2027, that maturity is only $125 million. Accordingly, we believe we are positioned very well in our industry. Shifting gears. Similar to what other utility companies across the country are experiencing, I wanted to provide an update on our fuel regulatory asset balance. While fuel under recoveries are typically recovered in 12 months or less, We have proposed longer recovery periods to help mitigate impacts to customers' monthly bills. In Arkansas, we implemented new fuel rates effective November 1 that will recover the $40 million balance over 17 months. In Oklahoma, for the unrecovery balance as of August month end of $424 million, we have begun recovery based on a 24-month recovery period. Well, I've provided you with a fair amount of financial information today, and I want to remind you that we will provide official 2023 EPS guidance during our fourth quarter call, as well as an updated financing and capital investment plan, a refresh look at load, and other key financial assumptions. Let me wrap up by summarizing where we stand. Our service territories in Oklahoma and western Arkansas continue to grow And we continue to plan for and make important infrastructure investments to support the growth of these communities, backed by one of the strongest balance sheets in the industry. As we approach 2023, we continue to have confidence in our ability to drive a long-term OG&E EPS CAGR of 5% to 7%, which, when coupled with our plans for a stable and growing dividend, offers investors an attractive total return proposition. With that, we will open the lines for your questions.
spk03: Daryl Ventura at Bank of America, your line is open. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hey, good morning, Tim. It's Julian here. Thanks for taking the time and the questions and appreciate the update. Nicely done, guys. Hey, good morning to you both. Good morning. So if I may, just pivoting here to the fuel conversation, I appreciate the remarks from Can we just talk at the outset here about how you think about fuel procurement hedging strategies writ large? I know there's been some conversation in the state. How do you think about maybe looking and reevaluating at longer-term opportunities there to avoid this? You talk about longer-term amortization. Can you be a little bit more specific on that? And then related, earlier in the comments, you talked about the solar RFP that was reissued in light of IRAs. How does the renewable opportunity here coincide with hedging and fuel practices in light of this, you know, rapid uptick in the fuel balance?
spk05: Yeah. Well, Julian, thanks for the question. This is, it's good to hear from you again. A couple things. You know, on the hedging discussion, we've certainly had that discussion and we have that discussion a lot with the commission about the hedging. What we have done is we've taken on a much larger storage position, so we've got the physical supply. That was really one of the key factors coming out of Winter Storm Uri. It was the physical supply of natural gas in that case. We're continually looking at it. We've already changed some of our procurement practices already to see if we can better mitigate the impact there. The hedging discussion will be a continuing discussion. We'll see where that plays out. You know, as I think about the RFPs we have out there, and you're correct, I appreciate you mentioning that about the solar RFPs. So we're going to get all those back and we're going to look at all those and see how they fit our need. As you recall, we don't have a need all at once. It's spread out over a number of years. But certainly to the extent that we have an opportunity to reduce some of that fuel volatility, that would be helpful. That would be helpful to us. I think the IRA provides some opportunity there in terms of credits that could be beneficial to our customers. But then again, we've also got to make sure that we have that reliability that we rely on. my intent to own these assets has not changed. I think, if anything, it's probably been more resolute in terms of that we must own these, because one of the points we've recognized coming out of URI and coming out of this summer, as hot as it was, is we are good operators, and we know how to run our plants, and at the end of the day, we're accountable to making sure that... energy is flowing to all of our customers. And we want to control that. We want to make sure that we're in charge of that. And we don't want to rely on others to support us. So I hope that was helpful there. Did I get your points, feeling all your questions?
spk01: Yeah, I think so. I'll leave it there. I mean, if I can squeeze in one more question here, the commentary on low growth, if I may. at 3% here for the year still, and sticking with the exceeding 1% in the 23, again, I get the economy's dynamic here, but maybe we could add a little bit of granularity here on exceeding 1%. I mean, that's just an exceptional trend here year to date. You must be having conversations with some of your larger loads to be zeroing in on some of that conversation. I know you said you could provide more formal guidance here next quarter, but Perhaps add a little bit of the clarity that you have on where that may land here in the year ahead.
spk05: Yeah, I don't know that we've got the crystal ball to see where exactly it's going to land sitting here in November when we announce this in February. But I think, you know, Brian's remarks and, you know, what we've seen, there's a lot of activity. And it's new development. It's expansion of existing facilities. we see it we see the population growth coming we see it certainly on the commercial side of new businesses I think that the probably the hesitancy we have of anything is just kind of really pinpointing when that when next year that's going to hit right I mean we were very confident in the development pipeline I was just in some discussions here in the city last week. Some very exciting opportunities. And so there's a lot of things going on there. And so it's difficult to kind of pinpoint that sitting here today of whether something's going to come online in May versus November of next year. But I think your thesis is absolutely correct, Julian. It's growing. And it's a validation of what we've been really focused on for a number of years here in terms of really creating this economic engine in our service territory.
spk01: Yeah, it's pretty remarkable here versus many of your peers. So, I just wanted to follow up there. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.
spk04: See you, Julian.
spk01: Thanks, Julian.
spk03: Take care.
spk04: Cheers.
spk03: As a reminder, to ask a question, press star 1-1, star 1-1 on your telephone. and wait for your name to be announced. And our next caller is Brandon Lee from Mizuho. Brandon, your line is open. Please go ahead.
spk09: Hey, good morning, Sean and Brian. Just a quick question. Good morning. I know you briefly mentioned data mining load. How do you view that load in your service territory? Is it transient load, and is it dependent on go to Bitcoin prices or kind of crypto prices? Thanks.
spk05: Yeah. Hey, thanks, Brandon, for the question. I'm going to let Brian tackle that one. He's knee deep into this. Brian, go ahead. Hey, Brandon, good morning.
spk06: Yeah, and, you know, just to add a little bit on Julian's question as well, you know, you look at residential, we're seeing that strong population growth that Sean mentioned. I'll come back to commercial. industrial and an oil field have been reasonably good this year, but we've seen several outages on those sectors that give us great confidence that that growth will bounce back some next year. And then public authority growth has been really strong at inclusive school systems and casinos and things like that in the state. On the commercial front, it's a lot of different business types, but on the data mining topic in particular, that's been a nice bounce in load growth here in the third quarter, less so in the first half of the year. But the biggest customer we have there is an Oklahoma-owned and managed company. Their warehouses are kind of your traditional brick and mortar. The data mining equipment is housed in there with state-of-the-art cooling systems. So it's an Oklahoma company. We will have some other potential data mining companies that come in that may not be as rooted into the state as they are, but the growth we've seen so far to date is more anchored than what perhaps you've seen in some other states. But you're right, just to finish off your question, Bitcoin pricing does matter to their economics. We've been told it's anywhere from eight to $10,000 a Bitcoin or above, they're running and they're profitable. So that's just an indicator for you to watch. But that is not what's given us our enthusiasm for 23. We're looking at a 1% or higher growth rate next year, completely excluding incremental growth from data mining. So I just want to be clear on that point, too.
spk09: Great. That's perfect. That's all I had. Thanks a lot.
spk03: Thank you. Okay. Stand by for our next caller. And next up is Greg Orill at UBS. Greg, your line is open. Please go ahead.
spk02: Yeah, thanks for the question. I was wondering if you have an after-tax number on the proceeds from energy transfer and any additional uses.
spk06: Yeah, Brian, you want? Yeah, absolutely. Hey, Greg, good morning. You know, As you're modeling that, we've given you the per unit price that we settled our transactions in exiting ET in the slide deck. Kind of a, you know, just as a reminder, we had a negative tax basis on the ET shares. So when you consider the negative tax basis plus just kind of your normal tax rate on the gross proceeds, the effective tax rate played out to be kind of in that 40% to 45% area from a cash perspective. So hopefully that helps you with your modeling. And so on proceeds, we've, of course, used that to pay down some short-term holding company debt. And so we're in a good position on the balance sheet.
spk02: OK, sounds good.
spk04: Thank you.
spk03: Stand by for our next caller. OK, Mr. Aditya Gandhi. is calling in from Wolf Research. Mr. Gandhi, please go ahead.
spk00: Thank you. Good morning, Sean. Good morning, Brian. Hey, good morning. Good morning. Just first, on the 5% to 7% growth rate, I noticed that you all sort of changed the way you all expressed this from an annual utility earnings growth rate to a CAGR. Is your utility earnings growth still relatively linear, or should we now think of the shape as not being linear? Just want to make sure I'm not sort of over-reading into that.
spk05: Yeah, you shouldn't over-read anything in that at all. We've been pretty consistent that the growth rate is 5% to 7%, and that's what we're working to achieve each year.
spk06: Got it. I would 100% agree with that. So we had a $1.81 base in 2021. You saw us hit the $1.92 midpoint in our guidance this year, which was 6% growth. And you should expect us to be trying to achieve that 5% to 7% every year throughout the future.
spk00: Got it. Thank you. And I guess my second question, I know you will give formal 23 guidance at Q4. But if we just sort of add the last four quarters of your utility earnings, that gets us to sort of above your current range. Should we assume you're sort of pulling forward some O&M from 23 into 22 or taking any other steps to de-risk 23 a little bit? If you could just add some color on that.
spk05: Yeah, I think it's fair to say we're always moving things around. And we've certainly had years in the past where we haven't had the benefit of weather. But I think it's safe to say we're intent on growing our business. But I would just caution you, when we move things around, we move things around for the long term. So very likely we could be pulling things in from 2024 or other years to do them in 23 as well. So we're managing this business for the long term, and we're still laser focused on identifying through efficiencies and technologies the opportunities to reduce some of those costs too. But I think your thesis is right. We're moving some things around.
spk00: That's helpful. Thank you. And just one last question, if I can squeeze that in. Yeah. So just intervener testimony on sort of like the, you know, the show cause investigation in Oklahoma regarding your fuel cost came in a few days ago with, you know, most interveners recommending longer amortization periods than 24 years. Sorry, 24 months. Just how are you thinking about you know, about potential implications of that on your cash flow and just credit metrics, if you've had any conversations with the credit rating agencies. And again, I understand that your balance sheet is extremely strong and you've had, you know, great FFO to debt numbers, but just how should we be thinking about that?
spk05: Yeah, I think, you know, as you're aware, the hearings are scheduled for this afternoon, I think at 1.30 p.m. And, you know, I'm sure there's probably some interested parties listening on this call, so I don't want to say anything that may prejudice the outcome for sure, but I think it's safe to say we expect to be treated fairly by the Commission. We are all very sensitive to the impact of customers, and we expect this to get resolved pretty quickly.
spk00: Okay, great. Thank you so much.
spk04: All right. Thank you.
spk03: Okay, our next caller is Konstantin Lednev from Guggenheim. Konstantin, your line is open. Please go ahead. Hi, good morning, Sean, Brian, team. I'm glad to have a great quarter.
spk05: Good morning. Thank you. Good morning, Konstantin.
spk07: I think you had some very comprehensive remarks and a lot of questions have been answered. I just wanted to maybe follow up a little bit how you're thinking about the availability of the generation resources playing a factor in the RFP process. There were some potential delays across the supply chain. previously, but curious how you see that playing out in your view.
spk05: Well, we haven't received the bids back on the solar RFP, so time will tell on that. Those are due in the coming weeks, but I think that is a very real parameter that we've got to deal with because we have windows or slots where we need generation to complete our portfolio, and we've got to match that up with availability and I don't know how many times in our remarks we've talked about affordability that matters too and and we also talked about reliability so we've got to make sure that it touches all those points but Constantine I think availability as we saw earlier in year was a bit of a problem we're hopeful that you know we're going to be able to spot some things in and you know get a better result for our company
spk07: Excellent. And maybe at a higher level on what kind of load and interconnection with new business across the service area, just any detail that you can provide on any pullback or pull forward on any specific sector as you're kind of looking out into the future?
spk05: I didn't get pulled back or pulled forward on a particular sector.
spk07: Interconnection or business, you previously talked about a variety of different subsectors contributing to that growth. We obviously talked about the crypto side of it, but any other trends that you are seeing or starting to plan for in 2023?
spk05: No, not a particular sector, and I think Brian mentioned we are seeing it across the board, and we're seeing some manufacturing facilities pop up, and so that creates new homes and new businesses, new residential customers, and then that also has a compounding benefit of new commercial establishments, whether it's a restaurant or a grocery store or something like that. hopefully you've heard from us, we're bullish on the growth of our service territory.
spk06: Maybe you'll love this. One of the new manufacturing facilities Sean mentioned that is opening up here late this year is Hubble, and they're an electric industry supplier, so equipment and materials for our own industry, and we couldn't be more thrilled to have them just miles away from our own warehousing, given the supply chain dynamics in the country. So, that was a real exciting one for us, but Sean's right. It's across the board. Yes, I'm very familiar with that one.
spk07: And maybe just a quick follow-up in terms of oil and gas activity, kind of with commodities, where they are. Are you seeing a bit more of a pickup in that sector or kind of the supporting services?
spk05: You know, maybe slight, you know, just in conversations with people, there's certainly more volume flowing, but I'm not sure that's the driver either. We're not counting on that as the real driver. Okay. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats again.
spk04: All right. Thank you.
spk03: Okay. At this time, I'd like to turn it back to Jason Bailey, Director of Investor Relations at OGE, for closing remarks.
spk08: Hey, thank you, Eric, and thank you, everyone, for your interest in OGE, and please have a safe day.
spk03: Very good. That concludes our session. You may disconnect.
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