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spk01: Welcome to the OneMain Financial first quarter 2023 earnings conference call and webcast. Hosting the call today from OneMain is Peter Pouillon, head of investor relations. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode, and the floor will be open for your questions following the presentation. If you would like to ask a question at that time, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If at any point your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star two. We do ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Please make sure to pick up your handset to allow optimal sound quality. Lastly, if you should require operator assistance, please press star zero. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Peter Pullian. Sir, you may begin.
spk11: Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Let me begin by directing you to page two of the first quarter 2023 investor presentation, which contains important disclosures concerning forward-looking statements and the use of non-GAAP measures. The presentation can be found in the investor relations section of our website. Our discussion today will contain certain forward-looking statements reflecting management's current beliefs about the company's future, financial performance, and business prospects. And these forward-looking statements are subject to inherent risks and uncertainties and speak only as of today. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements are set forth in our earnings press release. We caution you not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements. If you may be listening to this via replay at some point after today, we remind you that the remarks made herein or as of today, April 25th, and have not been updated subsequent to this call. Our call this morning will include formal remarks from Doug Shulman, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Micah Conrad, our Chief Financial Officer. After the conclusion of our formal remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session. I'd like to now turn the call over to Doug.
spk09: Thanks, Pete, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. Today I will cover our results for the quarter. our positioning in this uncertain macroeconomic environment, and our strategic initiatives. Let me start with some highlights of our performance in the first quarter. We produced net income of $179 million and $179 million of capital generation in the quarter. We continue to see strong demand for our loan products. In what is typically a seasonally lower quarter for our lending business, we had $2.8 billion of originations despite our continued tight credit box. It is a very constructive, competitive environment for us, and our strong balance sheet allows us to continue to provide responsible access to credit for our customers and make every loan that meets our risk return criteria. Our top two risk grades, Those with the best credit quality and lowest risk customers made up approximately 65% of new customer originations in the first quarter, as compared to mid 2021 levels of 30 to 40%. We're pleased with the opportunities we see to write higher credit quality loans at a pace that is modestly ahead of our expectations coming into the year. Turning to credit, our 30 to 89 delinquency rate finished the quarter at 2.58%, 49 basis points below where we ended last quarter and in line with seasonal trends. Our underwriting remains quite conservative. This credit posture, combined with favorable competitive dynamics at the higher end of our credit spectrum, is leading to an increase in the overall credit quality of our portfolio. Loan net charge-offs in the quarter were 7.7%, in line with our expectations, aided by continued solid performance in late-stage collections and post-charge-off recoveries. The adjustments we made to our credit box in the middle of last year are driving improved early delinquency performance as we progress through the year. While still elevated, our back book of loans, which were originated before our credit tightening last summer, has stabilized. And the loans we have originated post-tightening are performing in line with expectations. As post-tightening vintages become a bigger portion of the portfolio, we should see credit move toward more normalized levels. Nonetheless, we continue to closely monitor the environment in our portfolio and remain poised to adjust as needed. Let me now talk for a minute about the macroeconomic environment. We're encouraged by the continued low unemployment numbers and what appears to be a reduction in the pace of inflation. Regardless, we continue to maintain a conservative credit posture as economic uncertainty persists. In light of recent developments in the banking sector, I want to stress that at OneMain, we have built our strategy and balance sheet to be durable across a range of macroeconomic environments. This includes a diversified balance sheet with staggered maturities, a long liquidity runway, disciplined asset liability management, and conservative underwriting. It is precisely in volatile environments like the one we are in now that our strength is most evident and positions us to be a reliable and trusted partner for our customers when they count on us most. Turning to our BrightRite credit card, we are pleased with the continued progress. We are closely monitoring spend volume, balance builds, revolve rates, and credit performance. as we continue our rollout into very targeted segments of the non-prime market. Just like the posture we are taking with personal loans, we are maintaining a conservative credit box in our card product and are only taking on customers that we are confident will meet or exceed our return hurdles, even if the economy were to worsen from here. At quarter end, We had more than 160,000 card customers and $122 million of card receivables. And we're really pleased with the continued digital adoption as 99% of eligible customers who make six on-time payments make their choice to decrease their interest rate or increase their line in our app. and over 85% of customers are making payments in the app. We remain confident that our approach to carefully scaling cards while maintaining conservative underwriting standards is the right approach to build a strong business for the future with excellent returns. We also continue to see strong origination volume and good credit performance in our secured lending distribution channels. Loans from these channels today total nearly 500 million of receivables. I'm also pleased with our continued pace of innovation, especially around digital tools for customers. For example, when delinquencies ticked up last year, we shifted more of our branch team members' time to collection activities. As we have invested in digital capabilities over the past several years, we not only have the ability to shift human resources to the highest value work, depending on the week, month, or year, but have given our team members and our customers more digital tools to improve efficiency, outcomes, and customer experience. Two great examples of this are click-to-pay links embedded in emails and enhanced two-way texting. When we need to reach out to customers, we don't just call them. We can text or email them. And when customers receive a text or email, they can then either engage with us via their channel of choice or complete a task like making a payment using a digital tool. These new digital capabilities are driving efficiency in our operations and a more seamless customer experience. Let me end by touching on capital return. Our $4 per share annual dividend translates into an approximately 10% yield at our current share price. And during the first quarter, we repurchased about 700,000 shares for $27 million. As we discussed last quarter, we have moderated our share repurchases given the uncertain economic environment and our desire to maintain strategic optionality. That said, we remain a programmatic buyer of our shares and will adapt the pace of repurchases as the environment evolves. I'll conclude here by reiterating that we feel very good about the strategic and competitive positioning of OneMain and the results for the quarter. With that, let me turn the call over to Micah.
spk03: Thanks, Doug. Good morning, everyone. We had a solid quarter, and we continue to see positive credit trends following our August 2022 tightening. Receivables have been supported by strong demand, and we raised another $750 million of funding in challenged markets. While the environment remains uncertain, we are well positioned for both the short and long term. Our first quarter net income was $179 million, or $1.48 per diluted share, down from $2.38 per diluted share in the first quarter of 2022. B&I adjusted net income was $177 million, or $1.46 per diluted share, down from $2.36 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. And capital generation was $179 million for the quarter compared to $282 million a year ago. Keep in mind these prior year variances reflect difficult comparisons against the stimulus driven and historically low net charge off levels we saw in the first quarter of 2022. We continue to see strong demand for our loan products supported by a constructive competitive environment and continued progress in new products and channels. As a result, originations were $2.8 billion in the first quarter, despite our tighter underwriting posture. Pricing continues to be stable and remains above 2021 levels. We have increased pricing in certain segments to offset the impact of a higher credit quality mix of originations, which generally has lower pricing. Managed receivables were $20.6 billion, down slightly from the fourth quarter, which is typical in tax season. However, receivables growth was strong versus last year at 1.1 billion or 6%. We are now trending towards mid single digit growth in receivables for the full year. As a reminder, managed receivables includes 839 million of receivables sold through our forward flow agreements and 122 million of credit card balances. Let me now walk through the components of our first quarter CNI results. Interest income was $1.1 billion, flat to the prior year quarter. Yield was 22.3%, flat sequentially and down about 80 basis points year-over-year, reflecting higher 90-plus delinquency and the impacts of payment assistance we are providing to customers where needed. We continue to expect modest improvement in yield over the course of the year driven by normal seasonal delinquency patterns, the impact of our credit tightening on portfolio delinquency, and the pricing actions we've taken over the past year. Interest expense was $238 million, up 21 million, or 9% versus the prior year, primarily from an increase in average debt to support our receivables growth. Interest expense as a percentage of receivables was 4.8%, up modestly from 4.6% a year ago, despite what has been an historic increase in benchmark rates. Changes in our interest expense will generally be gradual, given our balanced debt mix and fixed-rate long-duration maturities. Other revenue was $176 million. up $18 million or 11% from the prior year quarter. The increase was primarily attributable to higher yields on our investment portfolio and our cash balances. Provision expense was $385 million and included current period net charge-offs and a modest increase to our allowance. Policyholder benefits and claims expense was $47 million compared to $42 million in the first quarter of 2022. Let's turn to the C&I credit trends highlighted on slide seven. 30 to 89 loan delinquency was 2.58% in the first quarter, down from 3.07% in December. This sequential reduction of 49 basis points is at the higher end of reductions we typically see in the first quarter. This is due in part to our post-tightening originations growing as a share of our receivables. Post-August 2022 vintages as of March 31st comprised 38% of total receivables compared to 27% at year end. On slide eight, we show the delinquency performance of our September 2022 originations at six months on book and our fourth quarter 22 originations at three months on book. Both are performing very much in line with our expectations. And while we are encouraged to see new originations performing well, our seasoned vintages continue to track above pre-pandemic levels, and we are proactively working with customers through what continues to be a challenging time. Loan net charge-offs were $376 million, or 7.7% for the quarter, consistent with our expectations. Net charge-offs were supported by strong recoveries of 1.4%, of average receivables. Recoveries remain above pre-pandemic levels of approximately 0.8% driven by our strong operational performance as well as opportunistic sales of charged off inventory. This quarter's recoveries include 11 million of proceeds from a sale. We are maintaining our full year net charge off range of 7.0 to 7.5%. We expect net charge offs to improve in the back half of the year given normal seasonal trends and improving credit quality within the portfolio. Turning to slide 9, I wanted to quickly highlight an accounting standard update that impacted our CECL reserves in the quarter. The standard became effective on January 1 and eliminates the accounting guidance for troubled debt restructurings, including the specific reserving methodology for these loans. In accordance with the adoption of this new standard, our CNI allowance was reduced by approximately $20 million with that adjustment flowing directly to retained earnings. The reduction was then partially offset by an increase of $3 million that ran through provision expense in the first quarter income statement for a net change of $17 million. The economic factors used in our CECL reserves were unchanged from the prior quarter And as a result, our reserve ratio was consistent at 11.6%. D&I operating expenses were $362 million in the quarter, down $5 million sequentially, and up a modest 4% year-over-year. Our operating expense ratio was 7.1% in the quarter, which is in line with our full-year guide. We remain focused on cost discipline, and even more so given the current market uncertainty. We're also focused on continuing to invest in growth initiatives for the future. The majority of our year-over-year expense growth came from investment in our new products and channels, with our core expense up just 2% versus the first quarter of 2022. Let's now turn to slide 11 for an update on our balance sheet and our funding. One of the key strengths of OneMaine is our strong balance sheet. characterized by a balance of funding sources, long duration staggered maturities, and a strong liquidity profile. Our secured funding mix is currently 55% of our outstanding debt. The duration of our debt is just over three years. And our next significant unsecured maturity is not until 2024, having just paid off an $800 million maturity last month. The proactive management of our funding structure and our balance sheet has significantly reduced the impact of rising rates on our interest expense and has given us a great degree of issuance flexibility over the past year. In February, we completed a three-year revolving $750 million auto ABS issuance with an average coupon of 5.6%. This was below the 6.0% coupon from our December issuance even with an increase in advance rate from 73% to 95%. We saw strong support from both returning and new investors, and the issuance was well oversubscribed, demonstrating the confidence investors have in 1 May. Our liquidity is supported by $7.4 billion of committed bank facilities spread across 15 geographically diverse and well-established financial institutions. These are typically three-year commitments with staggered terms. And since the beginning of 2022, we renewed nine of these 15 relationships, securing continued liquidity well into 2025 and 2026. And our capital adequacy remains strong, with net leverage of 5.4 times down from 5.5 times last quarter. With that, I'd like to turn the call back to Doug.
spk09: Thanks, Micah. OneMain remains in a very strong competitive position as we continue to provide access to credit for our customers and to help them through this uncertain time. Our balance sheet is strong and able enough to make every loan that meets our risk return thresholds. Our back book remains stable, and the loans we have originated post-tightening are performing in line with expectations. We continue to invest in new products in our omnichannel platform, allowing us to better serve more customers over time. As we close, let me thank all of our talented and dedicated team members across the country who help our customers improve their financial well-being every day. With that, we'll open it up for questions.
spk01: Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. At this time, if you have a question or comment, please press star one on your touchtone phone. If at any point your question is answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star two. Again, we do ask that while you pose your question that you pick up your handset to provide optimal sound quality. Thank you. And our first question will come from John Hecht with Jefferies. Your line is open.
spk06: Hey guys, good morning. Thanks very much for taking my question. First question is, you sometimes have a detailed slide within the deck pertaining to guidance. I mean, I think you guys touched on various components of the guidance in your prepared remarks, but I'm wondering, as you think about the details you provided with respect to guidance in the past, is there anything changed? Is there anything that's trending a little better, a little worse than expected, or any update you can give on that regard?
spk03: Hey, good morning, John. It's Micah. Thanks for the question. We didn't have any material updates as you heard from the prepared remarks to any of the strategic priorities. We've kind of given a lot of direction in the past also as we get into these question and answer sessions. I'm happy to review, you know, what we said just to make sure everyone's, you know, clear and provide a little bit of textural commentary around the trends as well. On receivables growth, you know, you heard us say we're We're trending towards mid-single digits as of today. You know, we're seeing strong demand for applications. We see a very strong and accretive competitive environment, and some of the payment dynamics in the portfolio are also supporting that mid-single-digit callout. On yield, you know, we put out a, you know, 22.3 for the first quarter. That was, as you might remember, spot on to what I had guided to in the fourth quarter, just in terms of where we thought we would be in the first. We do feel like we're hitting a bottom on yield. We expect yield to modestly improve as we go through the year here with seasonal impacts and trends of 90 plus. Our credit box adjustments and the post-August originations becoming a bigger part of our portfolio as the year goes on. And also some of the pricing increases that we've been making over the last year that we expect to start taking hold. So we do expect that modestly throughout the year to improve losses. We're still trending in the 7 to 7.5% range that we had put out last quarter. I think last quarter we also talked about the kind of trajectory of first half, second half. We're still in that ballpark. We think first half is going to be mid to high sevens with mid to high sixes in the second half. And, you know, I think our delinquency results that you saw today support those expectations. And then, you know, interest expense and the OpEx ratio, we expect that to be relatively flat for the remainder of the year. So, yeah, Hopefully that's helpful, gives you enough to kind of get a sense for where we're headed.
spk06: Yep, no, that's very helpful. Thanks very much. And then second question, just in thinking about the market, most lenders have announced some type of pullback in terms of tightening of underwriting. And these periods historically, that kind of presented an advantage for someone like one main in the sense that you could be more selective yet see a higher quality customer, new customer. And I'm wondering, Doug, some of the flavor of your remarks suggested you're maybe seeing that. But maybe can you talk about customer acquisition costs and your ability to attract a higher quality customer in this type of environment?
spk09: Yeah, John, as I said, we feel really well positioned in this market. We built our balance sheet with a lot of liquidity so that we didn't have any – we weren't forced to do any pullbacks because of funding, and we have plenty of funding. That allows us to stay in the market and serve our customers. With that said, you know that we significantly tightened our credit box last summer and post-August, we cut out a lot of the lower performing credit. The business we're booking today will be profitable and meet our return hurdles, even if the economy deteriorates. And I mentioned You know, we've got just around 65% of our business is being booked in higher credit quality customers. That's generally FICO's above 660. In 2021, that was 30 to 40%. And we're doing it without increasing cost of acquisition. I think we're just getting more of the market now. We're getting it, A, because we have a balance sheet that can book loans that meet our return hurdles. B, because we still are in the market marketing. And C, we've done a lot around just our product, our customer experience, our value proposition that we think, you know, even in a more benign macro environment, we think we'd still be getting our fair share of the market. And, you know, we'll just keep trying to, you know, have a great product, provides value to customers and work with our customers over time. And we feel pretty good that we'll be able to grow the book. And as Micah said, we're trending a little higher in originations than we thought we would at the beginning of the year, and we don't see any reason for that to stop.
spk06: Perfect. Thanks very much, guys.
spk09: Thanks, John.
spk01: Thank you. Our next question will come from Kevin Barker with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
spk05: Thank you very much. I just wanted to follow up on some of the comments around asset yields and just margins in general. you're pretty clear on asset yields continuing to improve through the seasonality through the year, but would you dig a little bit further in on the funding cost as well? I know the rest of the industry is under a lot of pressure and you have more fixed rate debt, but could we see a little incremental improvement due to the pay down of your maturing debt in the back half of the year combined with issuance of some securitizations? Maybe just a little more detail on what's happening on the funding side. Thanks.
spk03: Yeah, sure, Kevin. I think you've kind of highlighted it properly. The vast majority of our debt is fixed rate, which does give us an advantage with respect to some of the increases we've been seeing in funding costs generally across the market. I think we designed our balance sheet for exactly these times when things were great in 2021. I know I've said it before, but 2020 and 2021, we really went heavy into unsecured and long-duration debt when we were able to issue in the threes. And, you know, that's really helping us today because for the last five issuances we've done, going back to the early part of 2022, they've all been ABS on the secured lending side and, you know, kind of ranged right around, I would average, call it an average of about 5%. So right around our average funding cost and You know, that's been an advantage for us. So you're seeing our interest expense not moving up dramatically. It was 4.6% a year ago, and it's 4.8% today. You know, we think as we kind of move forward here, because of the way we've structured this balance sheet, it just takes a while for changes in benchmark rates to really move through our interest expense. Just to give you a data point, our next 12 months of issuance from today forward to next March is only going to represent 10% of our average debt in 2024. So we feel really good about signaling kind of stable issuance, and it'll tick up a little bit, but it's not going to be anything material. And I think that's a big advantage for us in terms of our our NIM and our profitability. You know, we've talked a little bit about yield and how yield's going to gradually return as some of the 90-plus subsides, you know, assuming a positive macro future. And, you know, our operating leverage is something that's incredibly strong as well for our profitability. When we add new loans, we're adding 2% OpEx instead of 7%, and so that helps us continue to generate the profitability we're used to seeing.
spk05: Okay, great. Thanks, Micah. And then a follow-up on the tightening of underwriting from August 2022. You've long targeted, you know, what, about a 6% to 7% net charge-off rate within the total book. But with the new originations being a much tighter underwriting, could we conceivably see structurally lower net charge-offs within the consolidated book, or at least the new originations? if we don't see a spike in unemployment or significantly more deterioration in the economy?
spk03: Yeah, I think, you know, Kevin, it's hard to say because that would require a little bit of prediction of future, you know, the future economy. Inflation is still elevated, as you know. You can see from what we published on that page in our earnings deck, our September origination, so that was right after our pretty major tightening in August. Our September origination six months later are tracking very, very similar to 2019 levels, which is not the best benchmark in the world. It's one year, but it was the last period we had pre-pandemic. You can see the fourth quarter also tracking in line with those pre-pandemic levels. But we're still focused generally on our returns, as you know. And so when we adjusted our credit box, we're making sure that each of the loans and cohorts of loans that were originating are meeting that 20% return hurdle. And what you're seeing on those delinquency charts for vintage performance is really reflective of that. So we like the earnings on those loans. We'll have to see how the macro economy kind of moves forward from here. I would say if we do see a turn down in inflation and things kind of get a little bit back to normal without unemployment, we would expect to see some better credit performance as well. But that's all to be seen in the future here.
spk02: Thank you, Micah.
spk03: Thanks.
spk01: Thank you. Our next question will come from Michael Kay with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.
spk04: Good morning. The quarter-on-quarter change in loans held up better than I expected. So I was wondering, are you seeing the impact of less seasonal payoffs during this year's tax season? I think I heard you mention something about positive payment dynamics in your remarks. Also, if there are less seasonal payoffs that you're seeing, is this good or bad? I mean, it's going to help net interest income as the loans are around longer, but could this be signs of upcoming consumer stress in the portfolio?
spk03: Yeah, it's a good question, Michael. I did reference the payment dynamics when I was walking through some of the expectations. You know, we are seeing similar patterns from what we view as, you know, this is tax season, so we typically will see increased payments, just people are getting tax refunds. We see a reduction in delinquency and Now we're down 49 basis points quarter over quarter, which I said was, it tends to be at the higher end of what we typically see. But, uh, you know, average refunds from tax season are around 2,900 bucks versus they were 3,200 last year because of the child tax credit, but, uh, very much in line with pre pandemic levels. So I would say from that perspective, we're seeing a pretty consistent payment trends relative to our expectations. Early payments and payoffs for seasoned accounts are down versus the last couple of years. We see this as a sign of the competitive environment, the availability of credit, and also effects from government stimulus continue to wear on that really influenced the last couple of years. I don't see it as a credit challenge. These are actually accounts that are accretive to our earnings and our yield, and they're paying customers. So we view this as a positive.
spk04: Okay. The next question is about funding. The secured mix, as you outlined, is up to 55%. You've got another $200 million maturing in the second half and another $1.3 billion in early 2024. How much longer are you going to be comfortable going without raising any unsecured debt? You haven't raised unsecured debt in quite some time already. You probably don't want to be out of that market for too long. Maybe you could provide some more color on that.
spk03: Yeah, sure. I mean, you know, as I said before, we have an incredibly strong balance sheet. We, you know, liquidity is really important to us. We've got seven and a half billion of committed bank lines that we can flex when needed. Those are largely undrawn today. You know, one of the kind of positive dynamics of the asset-backed securities is they do, you know, we have revolving periods, so we get some duration there. But once they also start to amortize. So, You know, as they are amortizing down, if we're putting on new ABS, it doesn't move that mix as much. We really feel like if we needed to issue nothing but ABS for the remainder of the year, we certainly could without really having a big challenge in terms of our funding mix. Our long bonds, you know, our long-duration bonds, as you've noted on our unsecured bonds, it's been about a year and a half since we issued there. We created that flexibility for ourselves in the way we structured the balance sheet. But, you know, in terms of the pricing, our longer duration bonds are trading in the mid-eighths as of yesterday. You know, you kind of add a new issue concession and convexity premiums for some of the deeper dollar discounts on the complex. And you're probably in the nine area. So, you know, we will be opportunistic if we see an opportunity and an opening for unsecured. But we have no real need to do so. We feel pretty comfortable where we are.
spk04: Okay, thank you.
spk01: Thank you. Our next question will come from Moshe Orenbach. Your line is now open.
spk02: Great, thanks. I was wondering, both Doug and Maiko, whether... there's a way to think about like, you know, what you need to see before you would expect, you know, to, to, to, uh, have a, you know, kind of a, an increase in, you know, in originations or be able to underwrite, you know, more of those applications that are coming your way and, you know, how to think about maybe as, you know, give you the second part of the question at the same time, how to think about, you know, that 5% decline year on year, you know, or, you know, what's the, you know, what's the amount that you, you know, if credit had normalized, you know, that that number, you know, how much higher do you think that number could be?
spk09: Yeah, look, Moshe, if I'm interpreting your question to be like, what would it take for us to open up our credit box? And I, look, one, I'd say, as, you know, we mentioned in our remarks, we still have an uncertain macro picture. Clearly, unemployment is a bright spot, low unemployment. And, you know, it looks promising that inflation is starting to moderate, but inflation is definitely still impacting customers. You know, I think we've now shown in two quarters that our post-tightening originations are performing as expected. And I think we need to see a couple more months of that just to feel comfortable that, you know, that trend is staying. We're super careful stewards of our shareholders' capital. And we've said before that we're going to be conservative with our balance sheet and conservative with underwriting, and we're going to be innovative and aggressive when it comes to product innovation, customer experience, digital, et cetera. We very well may be leaving money on the table, but we're okay with that given the uncertainty in the environment. You know, I think if we started to open up, it's not going to be a big bang where we say, cost is clear, let's just open up the credit box. It's going to be by state, depending on what we can charge, by risk rate of customer. We now have a set of products. We have a secured and an unsecured loan. We have two flavors of credit card, one with a fee, one without a fee. And so we'd be looking at pockets. What I will tell you is, we are always booking loans right at the margin of loans that don't meet our credit box in very small quantities that we test. We call it weather vane. So we've always got loans out in the market to see how they're performing just below our credit standards. And that data helps tell us kind of how are things performing. It's not material to our book, but it's just part of how we go. So look, what I would say is, Right now, we like the market share we're picking up, and as we mentioned, originations are above expectations already with a tight credit box. I think we're just going to have to keep watching our book and the economy, and we'll open up the box more when we feel comfortable doing it, but it's not right now.
spk02: Got it. Maybe just a quick follow-up. You mentioned, Micah, that... you know, half the expense growth is coming from, you know, from new initiatives. Can you just, you know, give us like the, you know, the biggest, you know, where the biggest dollar investments are going and, you know, is that going to, you know, as you look forward, is that going to be the same?
spk03: Yeah. Thanks, Moshe. We, you know, it's mostly, I mean, I think the answer is quite simple, frankly. It's really coming from our credit card initiative and the acquisition costs and the servicing costs associated with building out that business. And the same is true for our secure distribution channels. Again, acquisition costs, servicing costs, and building out the folks and infrastructure associated with those two businesses. That's the majority of the investment that I call that year-over-year. Thank you. Thanks.
spk01: Thank you. Our next question will come from David Sharp with JMP Securities. Your line is open.
spk10: Thanks. Good morning and thanks for taking my question. I wanted to follow up a little on not just the competitive dynamic but maybe how to think about or how you're thinking about your target market kind of longer term. Specifically, we're obviously kind of appropriately focused on all the cyclical matters right now, but as your funding profile continues to improve structurally, I mean, as your overall cost of funding on a comparative basis continues to get better, is the 660 and above increase of your mix, is that just something we should think of as cyclically as we typically do when you tighten? Or are you starting to feel that you can meet your longer term return requirements by actually moving up the credit spectrum longer term?
spk09: Yeah, look, it's a good question. 660 plus has always been a part of our business. You know, call it the lower end of prime, higher end of near prime, however you want to define it. And we like that business. As you mentioned, we also think we have some competitive advantages in our balance sheet. One of the reasons we built out a whole loan program isn't because we needed it for funding, but we wanted to build the pipes and get the expertise of having an off-balance sheet option for the distribution that we have that's quite powerful. As you mentioned, we're in a cycle now, so it's always hard to predict what it looks like coming out of a cycle and how much competition will be there coming out of a cycle. But I could envision this being a higher percentage than it was historically, especially given now that we have balance sheet optionality in different places to put this business. So we know how to serve this customer. Generally, it's unsecured loans. We've been working on our cost structure, and as Micah said, we have a lot of operating leverage. And between efficiencies in our branches, efficiencies in our central operation, and our new digital capabilities, we've got a very good cost structure that we can service potentially lower-yielding assets over the long run. So it's a long way of saying that It's certainly a possibility. We're not going to declare that we're going to keep this kind of market share as the cycle moves, but we're getting these customers now. We're serving them well. We're clearly meeting a need. It's clearly profitable for us, and we've done it for a long time. Exactly what part of the book it's going to be over the long run I think will depend on how we evolve and the market evolves.
spk10: No, that's very helpful. I mean, it sounds like lost in all the cyclical hand-wringing is potentially your TAM may be increasing over the long haul. It is a quick follow-up on card balances. You know, I know Q1, obviously, we typically see paydowns with tax refund season or, in this case, kind of modest growth for a new product. It only increased about 15 million sequentially. Are you still comfortable with that year-end 400 to 500 million balance target that I think you provided last call?
spk09: Yeah, I think it'll be in that range. We're having a very targeted and disciplined rollout. And our goal this year for cards is to prove out the model and Make sure we're really focused on spend patterns, usage, credit performance, digital engagement. And the plan was always to get more data and the second half would be a bigger rollout. We're on plan with the rollout now. With that said, we're watching the environment. We're going to be super careful. We're going to keep a tight credit box for now. And so we're really not managing it to growth. You know, as we mentioned, receivables overall we think are going to be in the top end of our guidance, which is in the mid-single digits. exactly how much cards contributes will depend on what we see for the next few months and the decisions we make about the second half of the year and how big of a rollout we do. But we think it will be somewhere in that range. Got it. Thank you very much.
spk01: Thank you. Our next question will come from Rick Shane with JP Morgan. Your line is open.
spk07: Thanks, guys, for taking my questions this morning. Look, when we think back about last year, One of the conclusions is that not only is your customer base sensitive to employment, but they're also extremely sensitive to inflation. We've seen gas prices decline very significantly since mid-year last year. We're starting to see some other prices come down. Is there anything that you're seeing in terms of the portfolio that suggests that the reversal of some of those inflated prices is having an impact on credit?
spk03: Yeah, Rick, this is Micah. It's a great question. I think it's one that's challenging to answer. I think the dynamics year over year on bank account balances also has something, you know, there's something at play there where, you know, customers may have still had some inflated bank account balances, particularly in the beginning of last year. from all the stimulus. So, you know, as that has kind of run down and inflation continues to be a challenge for them, we really haven't seen any big change in the dynamics. I mean, Doug mentioned the weather vane testing we're doing. So, you know, we are still seeing some challenges with the non-prime consumer. You know, we're not enough, not enough, some green shoots maybe, but not enough to to, you know, cause us to increase or open up our credit box at all. And I think we need to keep remembering also that even if inflation is only up 5%, that's on top of, you know, last year's high single digits inflation rates. So these things are building on themselves year over year. And it's just, it's our customers finding challenges making ends meet with their expenses. And so, We do see some positive signs here, as we've talked about. Our new originations are performing in line with expectations. Our back book has stabilized. So we saw delinquency increase pretty dramatically in May and June of last year. And since then, it's kind of just been following seasonal trends. So we feel good about the book going forward in terms of what we've been able to construct. And we're just going to have to keep watching this thing. But I think the net
spk07: uh the net here in terms of the the individual consumer they're still challenged with inflation got it okay thank you and look i have my own views on the credit card business but one one advantage perhaps is that you are seeing transaction level data for your customers um i'm curious um two things one are there insights that you are gathering from that transaction level detail that circles back to your broader lending. And second, can you share any sense of what percentage of spending for your customers is at the pump?
spk09: Yeah, Rick. First of all, on insights, we've always said that the credit card business is quite complementary and strategic and fits in well with our business model for a number of reasons. you know, we get a daily transactional product that, you know, matches our more episodic larger loan that gets paid off over time and a credit card customer could stay with us longer. Two is we think we have a lower cost of acquisition because we already have current and former customers to save that cost. And then third is what you mentioned, which is We get daily transactional data. What I would say is, yes, we're getting insights. Not enough yet and not either volume or length of time to put into our credit models yet, but we're always adding new data to our loan data. credit models. And so, you know, for instance, a couple of years ago, we started collecting bank account data as a way of doing income verification, which is now part of our credit models for our lending business. I think eventually this transactional data in credit cards, we'll be able to use in our lending business, obviously data from our lending business, we can use for the credit card. You know, I think on, I don't have at the top of my head, fingers exactly what's in the pump or the percentage of credit card that's used at gas stations. But the top three spend patterns are groceries, gas, and dining, which is exactly what we had hoped for. Again, the credit card is providing a utility that the loan doesn't provide, which means we mean more to our customers now than we did before.
spk07: Terrific. Thank you guys very much. Thank you.
spk01: Thank you. Our last question will come from Vincent Cantik with Stevens. Your line is open.
spk08: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. First one on the pre- and post-tightening loans. So just wondering if you could compare and contrast those in more detail, understanding that the post-tightening loans are going to be over two-thirds of the portfolio by the end of this year. If there's anything you can help us with understanding what the impact of that would be, say, for instance, what the underwriting losses are or what the yields are for those loans. Thank you.
spk03: I would say for the, you know, if we're tracking right around kind of 19 levels on those vintage, you know, those vintages, as we put on that, as we showed you on that page, that generally translates to about a six, six and a half percent loss rate. All right. But that's, you know, that's on average and over time, a portfolio that's constructed that way that remains that way for the, you know, entire life. So, but hopefully that gives you a little general, general direction as to where that is heading. I think as this portfolio of front book becomes a bigger part of our overall portfolio, we should start to see delinquency levels moving back down towards those 2019-2018 levels. But I want to also caution you. I think there's just so many dynamics that go on in a given year around delinquency and growth of receivables. So it's hard to have just the perfect year to compare to, but we do anticipate at least some modular decline in delinquency back down to those normal levels if If the economy stays the way it is, if our underwriting stays the way it does, the back book continues to be stable, and we continue to see that 19-type performance from our newer vintages.
spk08: Okay, great. Thank you. And to kind of a related follow-up, when I think about return on receivables for one main And, you know, there being a lot of moving pieces recently, you know, of course, cost of funds seem to maybe be going up, moving up market, tightening the portfolio, also getting the credit card. And I think this quarter, the return on receivables was 3.7 percent. I just wanted to explore whether the, I guess, the long-term 6 percent return on receivables if that's what we should be looking for as all these moving pieces are happening. Thank you.
spk03: Yeah, I think, you know, there's been a lot going on over the last few years. So I would say our RORs for 2020, 2021, and 2022 were certainly not what we would consider to be normal. But, you know, I also on the first quarter, first quarter because of the seasonally high loss rate tends to be on the lower end for CapGen ROR simply because of having a loss rate of 7.7% on loans in the quarter. I think as we go through the year, again, I gave you a little bit of guidance at the beginning of the Q&A session here and where we thought some of the trends were heading. you know, with an expectation of losses dropping by 100 basis points in each of the third and fourth quarter relative to what we think the first half looks like. That certainly, you know, right there is after tax about 70 basis points of ROR on top of, you know, what we're seeing. So, you know, I don't think, I wouldn't say that anything we're seeing has changed our views on the long-term health of the business and our profitability. You know, we've got a lot of levers here. You know, we certainly can tighten credit really quickly. We're seeing good demand. We're competitive in the marketplace. We've got the stability of our interest expense. And I keep coming back to it, but our fixed cost base and our ability to have loans at a marginal cost of expense is really, really powerful. We're adding new business lines with our credit card. We've expanded our acquisition channels from beyond our traditional branch network with our secure distribution channel expansion. And all of that comes with very, very attractive marginal returns on our receivables. So we feel very, very good about the future. And nothing about our profitability has been impaired by anything we're seeing today.
spk09: Hey, look, everyone, thank you for joining us. We are more than happy to do any follow-ups with Pete, our IR team, or Micah and I, and hope everyone has a great day. Thanks, everyone.
spk01: Thank you. This does conclude today's one main financial fourth quarter and full year 2022 earnings conference call. Please disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day.
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