Oracle Corporation

Good afternoon. My name is Emma, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Oracle Corporation's third quarter 2023 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press the star one. Thank you. Ken Vaughn, Senior VP of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Thank you, Emma. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Oracle's third quarter fiscal year 2023 earnings conference call. A copy of the press release and financial tables, which includes a gap to non-gap reconciliation and other supplemental financial information, can be viewed and downloaded from our Investor Relations website. Additionally, a list of many customers who purchased Oracle Cloud Services or went live on Oracle Cloud recently will be available from the Investor Relations website. On the call today are Chairman and Chief Technology Officer Larry Ellison and CEO Safra Katz. As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements, including predictions, expectations, estimates, or other information that might be considered forward-looking. Throughout today's discussion, we will present some important factors relating to our business, which may potentially affect these forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are also subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from statements being made today. As a result, we caution you against placing undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, and we encourage you to review our most recent reports, including our 10-K and 10-Q, and any applicable amendments for a complete discussion of these factors and other risks. that may affect our future results or the market price of our stock. And finally, we are not obligating ourselves to revise our results or these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. Before taking questions, we'll begin with a few prepared remarks. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Safra.

Thanks, Ken. And good afternoon, everyone. Q3 represented another great quarter with continued momentum on the top and bottom lines. But before I get to the numbers, I want to share with you a few thoughts that explain what's behind our continued financial success. First, our cloud offerings drive operational efficiency. In fact, one of our competitors recently coined the term the Oracle Playbook, which I absolutely love because the Oracle Playbook is all about doing more while spending less. As you all know, we started this ourselves over 20 years ago and have kept it up over all these years, resulting in the highest margins in the software business for decades. Using our own products and services enables us to increase our investments for growth while also growing profitability, including through acquisition, as well as during our move to the cloud. We are constantly talking with our customers about leveraging Oracle technology to accelerate their speed to market and reduce costs, all the while improving the experience they deliver to their customers. The combination of Oracle's infrastructure and apps, which is unique in the cloud market, increases the intensity of business transformation Cloud is no longer about just renting commodity white boxes. It's about velocity and value. We have become the enterprise technology vendor of choice because we have products and services that help our customers drive cost efficiencies and modernize their businesses. Second, while AI has been dominating the recent news cycle. The truth is that our Fusion and infrastructure customers have been using AI as an integral part of their business for some time. Oracle Fusion with embedded AI enables customers to close their books in days, not weeks. Oracle AI provides more relevant sales leads, Oracle AI increases infrastructure performance and security with no human intervention. And customers using OCI get AI as a service to help drive their own business transformation. Given our scale and our information advantage across industries and technologies, we are constantly training our applications to do more for our customers, whether it's further automating processes, providing critical and timely recommendations, offering insight, sorry, or flagging potential issues. That's real enterprise AI. It's what customers are looking for. It's designed into everything we do, and that's what our customers get when they use our platform. And on our Gen2 OCI platform, the architecture and unique network capability has fast become the platform of choice for many AI companies because OCI runs workloads faster. And time is money in the cloud. So coming to us saves our customers money. Third, customers are putting Oracle's comprehensive set of technologies to work in new and powerful ways to accelerate their businesses. The Uber win was notable because we have yet another example of an industry transforming company concluding that Oracle's cloud performance and security exceeds that of our competitors and at a price point that represents a sustainable long-term partnership. Uber will use more of our technology to drive value in their own business, and you're going to see a rising list of these types of strategic wins pile up in the quarters to come. Finally, before I move to the numbers, and hopefully no one missed this fact, that we're announcing our earnings nine days after the close of the quarter, and we expect to file the Q right away. We continue to set the standard in operating efficiency, which helps customers see what's possible when they're working with us. Okay, now to the Q3 results. As always, I'll discuss them using constant currency growth rates to provide a full picture, both organically and otherwise. I'm going to go over the revenue results, including Cerner, and then some revenue results excluding Cerner. Total cloud revenue, that's SaaS plus IaaS, including Cerner, was $4.1 billion, up 48% in constant currencies. with IaaS revenue of $1.2 billion, up 57%, and SaaS revenue of $2.9 billion, up 44%. Now, excluding Cerner, total cloud revenue was up 28% in constant currency at $3.5 billion. Total cloud services and licensed support revenue for the quarter, including Cerner, was 8.9 billion, up 20% in constant currency, driven again by our strategic cloud applications, autonomous database, and our Gen 2 OCI. Application subscription revenues, which includes support, were 4.2 billion and up 33% in constant currency. Infrastructure subscription revenues, also including support, were 4.8 billion, up 10% in constant currency. Application subscription revenues, including support, but excluding Cerner, were 3.4 billion, up 8% in constant currency. SaaS cloud revenue, again, excluding Cerner, was 2.3 billion and was up 16%. Our strategic back office SaaS applications now have an annualized revenue of $6.2 billion and grew 25% in constant currency, including Fusion ERP up again 28% and NetSuite ERP up 26% this quarter. As mentioned already, Infrastructure cloud services revenue was up 57% in constant currency. And when you exclude our legacy hosting services, infrastructure cloud services revenue grew 65%, with an annualized revenue of $4.4 billion, including OCI consumption revenue, which was up 86%, clouded customer consumption revenue up 73%, and autonomous database up 50%. Database subscription revenues, which include database support, were up 3% in constant currency, highlighted by cloud database services, which were up 40%. Database subscription revenue is largely made up of on-premise database support, but as these databases migrate from on-premise to the cloud and clouded customer, we expect these cloud database services will be the third leg of revenue growth alongside back-office SaaS and Gen2 OCI cloud services. Software license revenue, including Cerner, were $1.3 billion, up 4% in constant currency. So all in, total revenues for the quarter were $12.4 billion, up 21% in constant currency. Excluding Cerner's contribution of $1.5 billion, organic revenue was up 7% in constant currency. As a reminder, we no longer operate in Russia, causing organic revenue growth to be negatively affected by 1% of growth over last year. Shifting to margins, the gross margin for cloud services and licensed support was 79% as a result of the mix between support and cloud. Last year, Oracle licensed support revenue with its mid-90s gross margins represented about 63% of cloud services and licensed support revenue. Now, because our cloud services are growing so fast, it's down to 55%. Additionally, I would note that IaaS growth margins improved substantially from last year, and I expect IaaS growth margins will continue to improve. While we have continued to build data center capacity, we've also seen our margins go higher as these new cloud regions fill up. Most importantly, gross profit dollars of cloud services and licensed support grew 13% with Cerner and 6% excluding Cerner. Non-GAAP operating income was $5.2 billion, up 11% from last year. The operating margin, including Cerner, was 42% as we continue to integrate Cerner in the quarter. As we drive Cerner profitability to Oracle standards, and continue to benefit from economies of scale in the cloud, we will not only continue to grow operating income, but we will also grow the operating margin percentages. For example, while we have only owned Cerner for three quarters, we have already improved its operating margin by over five percentage points compared to before the acquisition. And by the way, I actually expect this year, FY 2023, the one we are closing out in one more quarter, will be the trough year for operating margins and percentages as our margin improvement initiatives play out. The non-GAAP tax rate for the quarter was 18.4%, and the non-GAAP EPS was $1.22 in U.S. dollars, up 8% in USD, up 13% in constant currency. Gap EPS was 68 cents in US dollars. At quarter end, we had nearly 8.8 billion in cash and marketable securities. The short-term deferred revenue balance was 8.6 billion, up 14% in constant currency. Over the last four quarters operating cash flow was 15.5 billion and free cash flow was 7.3 billion with capital expenditures of 8.2 billion. Operating cash flow for the quarter was up 11% at 4.3 billion. The remaining performance obligation or RPO balance is 62.3 billion. up 66% in constant currency due to strong cloud bookings, as well as Cerner, which Larry will discuss in a moment. I would also note that the organic RPO growth rate was 26% in constant currency. Approximately 48% of total RPO is expected to be recognized as revenue over the next 12 months. CapEx this quarter was 2.6 billion as we continue to build capacity for existing bookings and our customers' growing needs. Given the demand you see reflected in the RPO, as well as what we see in our pipeline, I expect that our CapEx investment will be about where it is right now for the foreseeable future. As always, we remain careful to pace our investments appropriately and in line with booking trends. We now have 41 public cloud regions around the world with another eight being built. In addition, 12 of these public cloud regions interconnect with Azure, giving customers true multi-cloud capabilities. We have many clouded customer implementations 10 dedicated regions, and another nine national security regions with increasing demand for more. As we've said before, we're committed to returning value to our shareholders through technical innovations, strategic acquisitions, stock repurchases, prudent use of debt, and a dividend. This quarter, we repurchased 1.8 million shares for a total of $150 million. In addition, we paid out dividends of $863 million in the quarter, and the board of directors increased the quarterly dividend 25% from 32 to 40 cents per share. Our financial strategy remains focused on growing non-GAAP operating and pre-tax income while substantially increasing cloud revenue growth. And given increasing customer interest in our cloud technologies, we will continue to prudently invest to meet this demand. As a reminder, because now we're going to talk about Q4, last Q4, we had a spectacular increase double-digit revenue growth rate, highlighted by 25% constant currency growth in software license. With our continued migration to the cloud, we expect that we will continue to win big deals that are more subscription-driven than license-driven. These big subscription wins add to the backlog and are recognized over time rather than upfront. That is exactly what we want to see as our cloud business continues to see excellent growth. So now let me turn to my guidance for Q4, which I'll provide on a non-GAAP basis. Now, assuming that currency exchange rates remain the same as they are now, currency would have a 2% negative effect on total revenue and at least 3% negative. plus negative effect on EPS in Q4. But as I say, every quarter, the actual currency impact may be very different by quarter end. Okay, here we go. Total revenues for Q4, including Cerner, are expected to grow from 17 to 19% in constant currency, and thus are expected to grow 15 to 17 in USD. Total cloud growth, including Cerner, is expected to grow from 51 to 53% in constant currency, 49 to 51 in USD. I expect total cloud growth for Q4, excluding Cerner, will be above 30% in constant currency. I expect growth in operating profit to be double digits. As you all know, my non-GAAP tax rate guidance is typically 20.5. However, our tax rates over the last two years in Q4 have averaged around 11%, and I anticipate that in Q4, the most likely outcome is a non-GAAP tax rate of around 14.5%. And we've used this rate in determining our EPS guidance for Q4. Now, mind you, that's comparing it to 11 or 10.5, I think, last year. Regardless, like past quarters, the actual tax rate for Q4 could be higher or lower and affect our actual EPS. With that, non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow between 3% and 5%. and be between $1.59 and $1.63 in constant currency. Non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow between 1% and 3% and be between $1.56 and $1.60 in USD. What have I got here? Anyway, as I've said before, Cerner will be accretive to earnings this year. including Q4. And with that, I'll turn it over to Larry for his comments.

Thank you, Safra. Since June of last year, when we acquired Cerner, that business has increased its healthcare contract base by approximately $5 billion. We have signed a diverse set of new and expanding domestic and international customers, including the U.S. Department of Defense, the US Department of Veterans Affairs, hospital groups in a dozen US states, multiple hospitals in the United Kingdom, multiple provinces in Canada, the Australian Defense Forces, multiple hospitals in Puerto Rico, and multiple countries in the Middle East. While we are pleased with this early success of the Cerner business, We expect the signing of new healthcare contracts to accelerate over the next few quarters. Well, the Cerner business has been booking billions of dollars in millennium clinical and electronic health record systems for hundreds of hospitals and ambulatory clinics. The overall Oracle healthcare application portfolio is actually much broader. covering virtually the entire healthcare ecosystem. Hospitals are also buying the Oracle Fusion ERP system to manage their revenue cycle from reimbursements from insurance companies to patient billing, plus their medical supply chain from ordering to inventory. Hospitals are buying Fusion HCM to manage their complex high-value workforce of doctors, nurses, and technicians. Pharmaceutical companies are buying Oracle Clinical One to manage clinical trials. Government health organizations, public health organizations, are using aggregated EHR data to monitor infectious disease and respond to outbreaks quickly and efficiently. Now I'd like to take a couple of minutes and go over a little more specifically, some of the Cerner wins since we bought the company. A huge win at LabCorp and Ascension Health to deploy a single lab information system domain for 96 separate hospital-based labs across 10 states. Another one in Puerto Rico, Auxilio Mutuo, is an all-new electronic health record footprint to deploy in a 600-plus bed academic private hospital, replacing Altera Paragon with Cerna Millennium. Vandalia Health, formerly Charleston Area Medical Center, consolidated all their EMRs into a single unified domain and added four new hospitals. UHS modernized their revenue cycle migrated to the CareAware cloud for their hospitals and ambulatory clinics. Banner Health implemented a complete revenue cycle management for their health business. The VA deployed our unified electronic health record system to 19 additional sites. The Department of Defense deployed Oracle Cerner EHR to all the OCONUS locations in the US Department of Defense. In the UK, at the National Health Service, Sheffield Teaching Hospital deployed the full suite of Cerner applications across three additional sites. and the Sheffield Teaching Hospitals. The Princess Alexandria Hospital, also in the NHS, is a 430-bed hospital that added the full Cerner suite. Mubabdala Health was the first Cerner Millennium client to move from the Cerner Data Center directly now to the OCI Cloud. As we move our Cerner patients from the Cerner data centers into the Oracle OCI cloud, we expect to get much better security, much better reliability, much better performance, and dramatically lower our costs of providing that cloud service. OCI is just much more efficient than the Cerner data centers that we acquired. We've deployed the full EHR footprint, Cerner footprint, to four Sheik Khalifa hospitals in the UAE with a capacity of 1,200 beds serving a population of 1.4 million citizens, again, in the UHE. The Australian Department of Defense, we delivered... acute care capabilities and deployed an environment for all of the Australian defense hospitals and field hospitals. In Canada, starting in Nova Scotia, we deployed a one patient, one record EHR system across the province for the citizens of Nova Scotia. One patient, one record. As you know, I've discussed a long time the fact that Patient electronic health records are scattered across every provider they visit. That problem is now being solved in Nova Scotia by having a single unified patient record for every patient regardless of which provider they visit. Their records are still all in one place. Same thing in Niagara Health, a new AHR footprint to support delivery of care for patients of 450,000 citizens, again, in Canada. Okay, I'm going to stop with that. And those are direct Cerner wins since we acquired Cerner. But on top of that, we have all of the, if you will, the rest of the healthcare suite which is made up of Oracle ERP, Oracle HCM, Oracle Clinical One for clinical trials, Oracle ERP for managing everything from procurement and inventory, the entire supply chain, Oracle HCM for managing the enormously complicated scheduling and paying of their professional workforce of doctors, nurses, technicians, etc. We're very strong in this part of the business. Our customers include the Cleveland Clinic who use our ERP system in their hospitals and our supply chain systems. The Mayo Clinic also ERP supply chain and HCM to manage the workforce. Mount Sinai Hospital ERP, SCM, and HCM. Providence St. Joseph Health ERP. SCM, HCM, and actually NCX customer engagement. Adventist Health uses Oracle ERP, SCM, HCM, and CX Kaiser Permanente, a huge Oracle HCM user, to manage their workforce. The NHS in the UK, ERP and SCM. United Healthcare, ERP, and HCM. Blue Cross Blue Shield. ERP, HCM, HCM and CX, Humana, ERP and SCM, Highmark Health, ERP, SCM, all fusion products, or HCM, Healthcare Service Corporation, you see a pattern here, ERP, HCM and CX, Independence, Blue Cross, ERP and HCM, Bright Healthcare, ERP. Now, in this past quarter, We had major wins at Ascension Health, buying ERP, HCM, SCM, and HCM where the primary competitor in HCM was Workday. As we add specific features to manage the healthcare workforce to our HCM product, Oracle becomes more and more successful. in selling our HCM products within the healthcare ecosystem. So our win rates are going up dramatically. Our sales cycles are going down. University of Texas Health in San Antonio was a big HCM win there. LabCorp bought ERP and HCM where the competitor in ERP was SAP. We won Blue Rock Therapeutics, where they bought ERP, SCM, and Fusion Analytic Warehouse. Again, the competitor there was SAP. And this, by the way, is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Bayer AG. So it was nice to win in a German-owned company against SAP. ICU Medical expanded their HCM. for vascular therapy and oncology, Dexcom, ERP, EPM, SCM, Cytel, ERP, EPM, SCM, a win over SAP. We had some huge go-lives in the quarter. Providence Health, a huge SCM customer, rolled out to 12 additional ministries. The National Healthcare in the UK, Supply, you know, I have all the trusts, all the trust hospitals are all now live with ERP. Baptist Healthcare can have now 10,000 employees live on HCM. Texas Children's Hospital, 21,000 employees live on HCM. Kelsey Siebold Clinics, are now completely live in HTM. I can go on and on, but rather than doing that, I'm just going to turn it back over to Sapron.

Thank you, Larry. Emma, if you could please pull the audience for questions.

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Your first question today comes from the line of Mark Mordler with Bernstein. Your line is now open.

Thank you very much, and congratulations on the really good quarter. With the slowdown we're seeing across so many IAS past vendors over the last couple of quarters, and especially this quarter, why has OCI Gen 2 held up so well? You know, you have born-in-the-cloud customers, which are seeing weakness elsewhere. You have enterprises. Is it simply low price? Is it performance? Is it you're at the right time in the economic cycle to be capturing new customers? Is there some dynamics around expiry credits that are driving this? The difference is too stark. I think it's really important. So the more color you can give, the better. Thanks.

All right. I'd like to take a crack at that. So I'll start by checking with Jensen at NVIDIA. He and I had a very interesting conversation. Oracle's Gen 2 cloud is quite different than the other hyperscalers. We have an RDMA network, a non-blocking RDMA network. Our network is much faster than the other guy's network. What this means is if you're running a large group of NVIDIA GPUs in a cluster doing a large AI problem at Oracle, we can build these AI clusters, these NVIDIA GPU clusters and run them, we can build those things dynamically because our standard network supports the large clustering of GPUs and allows them to communicate very quickly. So we can create these groups of GPUs. We can marshal them together. The other guys can't do that. They can build clusters, but they actually literally are physically building a new cluster. They're building new hardware. Our existing hardware, our standard network allows us to group these things together dynamically, these GPUs together dynamically. to attack AI problems. No one else can do that. So we have a lot of business, a lot of new AI companies coming to Oracle because we're the only ones that can run their workloads. And by the way, we are cheaper. So we're faster and we're cheaper. Let me give you an example where we use it ourselves. We have a partnership in healthcare, back to this healthcare thing. We have a partnership in healthcare with MD Anderson Hospital and one of our independent software vendors called Ronin, where we built these disease-specific AI modules that make recommendations to doctors about care. And what they really say at MD Anderson, you know, if we see a patient with these symptoms, this is how we respond. And that's a big AI model that's built by MD Anderson working with Ronan, running in the Oracle Cloud. And we've actually shown, or I should say MD Anderson has actually shown, if you use this system, you reduce hospital admissions and readmissions by 30%. That's a stunning number. People talk about ChatGPT being really cool because it can write my high school essay for me. Well, how about reducing the hospital readmissions at MD Anderson by 30%? You decide which is more important. But AI is fabulous stuff. Yeah, and ChatGPT is very cool. There are other applications other than generative language in these large language models. We've really focused on on healthcare in the last year or so since the acquisition of Cerner and are working diligently with others to apply AI to healthcare and especially the management of the complex diseases like cancer. This is a cancer AI system. But we're also doing wellness, heart disease, et cetera, down the road. We think our platform runs AI very, very well. because we create these clusters of GPUs that can attack big problems very quickly. We do it economically. Then we build the applications on top of that. We provide the service to a lot of the startups in the AI world. This is one example of where we're just way ahead of the other hyperscalers in terms of our network and our ability to do AI. Let me point out one last AI thing. The Oracle Autonomous Database. It doesn't have any database administrators. It's completely self-driving. The Oracle Autonomous Database is self-driving because it is an AI module that is the DBA. We've replaced the DBAs with AI inside of our own cloud. The Oracle Autonomous Database actually runs all the databases inside of the administrative part of our cloud, keeps track of all of our users, our billing data, All of those things, recovery data sets, all of that stuff is now done using AI and our autonomous database. So we're a huge consumer of AI. We're a huge vendor of AI GPU capacity, clustered capacity. We build AI modules in healthcare. And people are coming to us. And NVIDIA is often recommending us. as the best cloud for AI, and this is a good time to be there.

Perfect. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Murphy with JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Thank you, Larry. My question was very much related to that, but maybe from a slightly different angle. I'm wondering if you could drill into the opportunity that you do see on the generative AI side. We're repeatedly hearing that companies are running those kinds of models on OCI. You know, NVIDIA is moving some of those workloads to the Oracle Cloud. And the other concept being that these AI models are so data hungry and that you have all the data already contained in the Fusion applications. I am curious if that piece of it, the generative AI piece, is something that you see lining up as a growth driver that is material overall on the entire business.

Oh, the answer is absolutely yes. There's actually more demand for AI processing than there is available capacity. And we're the only ones, again, that can dynamically – and by the way, and we're short. We are expanding as fast as we can. know it's really interesting it's an exciting opportunity but we're you know it's challenging when there's more demand than supply but the great the difference with us is our standard network allows us to group together these gpus and have and have them attack these problems whether it's a medical diagnostic problem or it's a a generative like you know language problem like a chat gpt so we have a lot of isvs seeking us out because not only do we have the most cost-effective solution, we can make the solution available to them very quickly because it runs on our standard network. So we can create a cluster for them, they run their workload, and the moment their workload is through running, we can reallocate that cluster or break that cluster up and allocate it to other users. The other guys can't do that.

Thank you. They can't do it dynamically. Thank you. Next question, please, Emma.

Your next question comes from the line of Derek Wood with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Great. Thanks for taking my question. I'll echo my congratulations, especially on sustaining a very high OCI growth. Larry, one area we've been doing more work on is how cloud vendors can help transform the telco market, including migrating their IT infrastructure and their network operations to the public cloud, which should lead to greater efficiencies and also give them a more effective platform to roll out new 5G and edge application services. I know you guys touched on this a bit at last year's analyst day, but I was just hoping to get an update on how you're thinking about that telco opportunity with the Oracle stack, especially with OCI, who some of the telco operators you're partnering with and how you see this playing out over the next couple of years.

Yeah, this is an exciting, you know, an exciting business for us. I mean, we're actually creating dedicated data centers for Vodafone. I'm not sure how many we've already built as yet, but if you will, Vodafone is moving a substantial part of their business into the Oracle Cloud. And again, we have this ability to build data centers At you know for customers and and those data centers are oci data centers that we run for them, but they are dedicated to workloads at a particular customer. Nomura the first of them, we built a few years ago in Japan for Nomura and they have and they have a primary and now they have a they have a backup they run the Tokyo stock exchange on that. On that, and they sell it and says financial services in Japan. But that's an OCI data center that we built for Nomura where they're reselling the capabilities. Vodafone's, again, another example of someone who we're building dedicated data. These are OCI data centers that we run. They're in our constellation of data centers. They look like all the other OCI data centers. They're automated like all the other OCI data centers. So we take advantage of those economies of scale and that skilled labor that runs them. And again, a lot of it is AI, but a lot of it, we still have human beings. We've done that for Vodafone. Same thing, Dish Network's entry into telephony is enabled by similar architectural approach using OCI. I can go on and on. But it's one of our industries of emphasis. And I think you'll see us, you know, And that's going to be a huge area of growth for us. As telcos, we've always been very strong in telcos. And now they're beginning to move to the cloud. And we're seeing some major commitments from some of our largest customers around the world. We're also seeing financial services companies take a slightly different point of view, but where they want to keep things, if you will, quote, on premise. But since we can build a... an OCI region and dedicated to a bank. We're doing more, if you will, call it clouded customer, where we build a dedicated region for a financial service. Nomura was an example, Nomura in Japan, but there are other examples where we build these clouds for banks. So, I mean, huge industries moving to the cloud in a slightly different way than a than other other industries not moving to public cloud but rather preferring to have these dedicated regions so it's just their application just their applications in this cloud we have the ability to do that again the amazon does not and microsoft does not and google does not great thank you your next question comes from the line of john defucci with guggenheim your line is now open

Thank you. I think this question's for Safra. We've heard a lot about your committed cloud mega deals, but you sometimes have talked about pure consumption or pay-as-you-go deals. Other vendors that employ the pay-as-you-go model, such as Mongo and even Snowflake to some extent, who had been getting a ton of traction in the market, have either seen or they anticipate dramatic slowdowns. We haven't seen anything like that in your results at all, and certainly not in your guidance. But can you talk about your exposure to such deals and how they're progressing?

So as Larry was touching on it, we have many, many enterprise customers, phone companies, banks, governments who make commitments to us as part of their move to cloud. So we do have some pay-as-you-go customers, but the bulk of our revenue, first of all, our SaaS revenue is As you know, you implement an accounting system. You're not going to pay less tomorrow. You still have to run your accounting system. So the staff side of the business, again, is fully committed. And then because we have so many important enterprise customers who are bringing basically their crown jewels into our cloud and had been waiting really for us to be in the position to receive those, they want to have a two-way commitment. They want to know that we have the capacity for them, and they want to get a slightly better price. So first of all, those that go into the public cloud, whether it's Telecom Italia, or Verizon, or some of these others, they obviously would like a better price. So they make commitments to come in. usually committing less than they expect to use and almost always over using more than they expected. However, other customers have clouded customers, Larry mentioned, or other different arrangements, the alloy arrangement where we have a combination with a telco or a data center provider. Those are all committed. And so we're very... we're very strong in the commitments from our customers. And by the way, they want to make sure we have available capacity back for them because many of them get rid of their data centers when they're finished. And that's the ultimate goal for them. They don't want to be running back and forth. These aren't toy workloads. These are critical workloads for their business and they want to know that they've got a place to put those.

So the commitment is a lot of these, it sounds like these people are committed to ramping up to the full capacity of their data center, and not until they do that do they shut down, for the most part, the data center they're replacing. Yes.

Just so that we're clear here, pay as you go at Oracle is less than 5% of our business. Is that clear?

That's very clear. Thank you very much, Safra.

Your last question today comes from the line of Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Excellent. Thank you so much for taking my questions. Larry, as I think about the strong momentum in Cerner, expanding the contract base by $5 billion, and your expectations for the business to accelerate, can you parse through the drivers in terms of new logo win rates versus the expansion and cross-sell you're doing with Fusion, for example? And then also, Larry, you touched on the idea of a single medical record. People have been talking about this for decades. When does it become clear that Oracle is helping improve the quality of care and saving lives? And I've got a quick follow-up for Safra, if Ken will allow.

Well, I think there are two things. One is the system we're putting in for the DOD and for the VA is one patient, one record. So that's a model of it. The one we're going into Nova Scotia is the same. We are bidding on a huge contract for the NHS. Again, some of these contracts are enormous and the responsibility to go along with the contracts are also enormous. But our system, that's how our system works. Our standard system that we have built is one patient, one record in the database. So if you visit Stanford and UCLA and Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic, even if you go to those four different providers for a variety of different issues, all of your data will be in one database. All your patient data will be in one place immediately accessible in a time of emergency or just a routine visit to the doctor. That's how our system is architected. That's how we're delivering it to customers. To customers right now, it's attracted a lot of attention. Actually, it's not only much better for the patient, it helps deliver better, it gives doctors better information, deliver better outcomes, but it's also less expensive to do it that way than every hospital maintaining their own system. Rather, it's better that they should share a system in the cloud. and integrate their data for the benefit of the patient. Saving lives is exactly what's, you know, what is doing, what's happening with our partner at Ronan and our partner at MD Anderson and other partnerships I could go into in more detail, and I'm happy to, but not on this call, is these disease-specific AI modules and the telemedicine modules that we're delivering allows a patient in a community hospital in Montana to get the benefits of the wisdom of the best cancer specialists at MD Anderson Hospital in Texas or Memorial Sloan Kettering Doc in New York or Mass General Doctor who's on faculty at Harvard Medical School. The fact that we're now using AI and telemedicine and instrumenting these diagnostic devices so the docs, you know, so in the community hospital we have diagnostic devices that the Harvard faculty member at Mass General can look at and then they inspect the AI module to, A, gather much better information and with that better information, have the best minds and AI, real minds and artificial intelligence processing that information and prescribing hopefully the best procedure or the best medication for that particular patient, which translates into reducing readmission to the hospital as it did at MD Anderson and ultimately saving lives.

Thank you so much for that, Larry. The mission is so important. If I could just sneak in a quick one for Safra to follow up. Safra, 30% organic cloud growth for the year implies significant acceleration in Q4. What supports your confidence in delivering that? Thank you so much.

Well, remember, as I told you, we have dropped a large number of data centers. And as they become available, we have customers waiting for to get started and use them. So we have commitments from customers to quite an enormous amount of consumption. And so they've basically been waiting for us. We've taken a while in all these different countries to open these data centers and to make them available to our customers. And so we know they are actually very impatient to use the capacity as it becomes available. And we just have a lot of momentum and a lot of commitment from our customers and a lot of enthusiasm around our offerings. And so that's how the math works.

Excellent.

Thank you. Thank you, Brad and Safra. A telephonic replay of this conference call will be available for 24 hours on our investor relations website. Thank you for joining us today. With that, I'll turn the call back to Emma for closing.

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