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spk00: Good afternoon. My name is Emma, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Old Republic International Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. Thank you. Joe Calabrese with the Financial Relations Board. You may now begin your conference.
spk05: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Old Republic Conference Call to discuss third quarter 2021 results. This morning, we distributed a copy of the press release and posted a separate statistical supplement, which we assume you've seen and otherwise have access to during the call. Both of the documents are available at Old Republic's website, which is www.oldrepublic.org. Please be advised that this call may involve forward-looking statements as discussed in the press release and statistical supplements dated October 28th, 2021. Risks associated with these statements can be found in the company's latest SEC filings. This afternoon's conference call will be led by Craig Schmitty, President and CEO of Old Republic International Corporation, and several other senior executive members as planned for this meeting. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Craig Spinney. Please go ahead, sir.
spk08: Okay. Thank you, Joe. Well, good afternoon, everyone, and welcome again to Old Republic's third quarter earnings call. With me today, we have our CFO, Frank Sodaro, and we also have Carolyn Monroe, the president of our title insurance group. Well, our hard work is paying off, and we're very pleased to again report that ORI produced another terrific quarter with general insurance and title insurance each posting exceptional results that drove the strong record-setting consolidated results that you saw. Compared to the third quarter of 20, total net premium and fees earned increased to just over $2 billion, up almost At the same time, our pre-tax operating income increased to just under $300 million, up almost 32%. And the consolidated combined ratio improved to 89.8%. That's a 2.5 percentage point improvement. Still comparing to the third quarter of 20, general insurance saw net written premium increase by 4.3%. And in title insurance, we saw net premiums and fees earned increased by over 33%. So our diverse portfolio of specialty products in both general insurance and title insurance continue to deliver growth and profitability. And with that, I will now turn the discussion over to Frank to discuss some of the per share figures, our investment portfolio, and briefly touch upon our runoff mortgage business. Then he'll turn things back to me to cover general insurance, followed by Carolyn, who will discuss title insurance, and we will follow those discussions by opening up to Q&A. So, Frank, take it away.
spk02: Thank you, Craig, and good afternoon, everyone. This morning we reported a 32% year-over-year increase and third quarter net income excluding investment gains and losses of 240 million, or 79 cents per share. For the first nine months of this year, this figure was 668 million, up nearly 50%. Results for both periods were driven by substantial growth and underwriting profitability within our general and title insurance segments, which you'll hear more about shortly. Shareholders' equity ended at 6.3 billion, resulting in book value per share of just under $21. Adding back dividends, including the $1.50 special dividend paid in the quarter, book value increased 11% from year-end 2020, driven by our strong earnings. Net investment income increased for the quarter, however was down slightly year-to-date. The increased investment base, inclusive of proceeds from last quarter's debt issuance, and lower yields on new investment purchases affected both periods. The investment portfolio consisted of approximately 71% in highly rated bonds and short-term investments with the remaining 29% allocated to large cap dividend paying stocks. The average maturity on the bond portfolio is approximately 4.5 years with both book and market yields of about 2.5%. The fair value of the equity portfolio did decrease by about $200 million during the quarter due to normal market fluctuations. However, we ended the period with unrealized gains on these investments of nearly $1.1 billion. I'll now turn to claim reserves, which ended the period at just under $11.5 billion. All three operating segments recognized favorable claim reserve development for all periods presented. In total, the consolidated claim ratio benefited by 2.3 and 2 percentage points for this year's third quarter and first nine months, respectively, compared to 1.4 and 0.9 percentage points for the same period a year ago. Finally, premiums and risk and force of our runoff mortgage operations continue to decline in line with our expectations while generating a modest operating profit. Claim costs reflect a significant reduction in newly reported defaults compared to 2020, and lower claim severity resulting from increasing home values. The group paid another $25 million dividend to parent, bringing the total to $75 million for the year. Now, we expect to pay another $25 million dividend in the fourth quarter, but that will be subject to regulatory approval. Total GAAP shareholders' equity for the mortgage companies ended the quarter at just under $400 million. I'll now turn the call back to Craig for discussion of general insurance. OK, Frank. Thanks.
spk08: So in general insurance, net written and net earned premiums each increased by just under 5%. We continue to achieve strong rate increases on most lines of coverage other than workers' comp. Compared to the third quarter of 2020, pre-tax operating income rose almost 33%, and that's primarily from improved claim ratios. The overall combined ratio improved 4.2 percentage points from 95.5% to 91.3%. Claim ratios we reported were, of course, inclusive of favorable prior period development, and that came in at 3.2 percentage points in the quarter. Net premiums written in commercial auto grew by 5.4%. Our third quarter commercial auto claim ratio improved to 73.1% compared to 80.4% in the third quarter of last year. Claim frequency is not quite back to pre-pandemic levels, but it is higher than 2020. Severity trends continue to increase, although at a slightly lower pace than what we had seen in previous years. Rate increases in auto liability are continuing in the 15% range. So we think we're staying ahead of the overall loss trends that we're seeing, but we also recognize that we still need to achieve a lower claim ratio for auto. Turning to workers comp, net premiums written were lower by about 1% compared to the third quarter of 2020, somewhat reflecting our ongoing underwriting discipline to maintain rate levels. The workers' comp third quarter claim ratio came in at 59% compared to 54.1% in the third quarter of 2020. Claim frequencies now just slightly below pre-pandemic levels, while severity is slightly up. mostly driven by indemnity severity. So for workers comp, we think our rate levels are adequate and we'll continue to maintain our underwriting discipline as we move forward with this line. Our aggregated commercial auto workers comp and general liability claim ratio came in at 65.9% compared to 72% in last year's third quarter. In financial indemnity, property, and other coverages, we continue to experience favorable steady claim ratios and strong rate increases, all contributing to the improved combined ratio we're seeing in general insurance. So we continue with our Underwriting Excellence initiative that focuses on better segmentation, improved risk selection, and pricing precision. all aided by increased use of analytics. And we think these efforts will continue to facilitate strong underwriting profitability, adequate rate levels, and continued high retention levels. So I'll now turn the discussion over to you, Carolyn, who you, along with your team, have put together yet another terrific quarter. So, Carolyn?
spk01: Thank you, Craig. As reported this morning, the title group posted an all-time high for quarterly premium and fee revenue while operating profits were just slightly below the record-setting results reported in the second quarter of 2021. Total revenue for the quarter of $1.1 billion was up 33% from the prior year third quarter. Year-to-date revenue has already surpassed $3 billion. a 43% increase from the comparable period last year. Our pre-tax operating income was 136 million for the quarter compared to 103 million in last year's third quarter, an increase of 33 million or 32%. Year-to-date, our pre-tax operating income of 378 million exceeds pre-tax operating income for the same period last year by 166 million or approximately 79%. Commercial premiums are up 73% over third quarter 2020 and represented 15.3% of our total premiums versus 13.6% in third quarter 2020. While we have seen a drop in order counts, this is mostly a result of the slowdown in the refinance sector. Purchase transactions which generate a higher fee per order are expected to remain strong as we close out the year. In our technology portfolio, Pravasa remains the market leader in the number of digital closings completed. We have seen an increase in digital closings, although at this time less than 5% of all closings in the industry are done digitally. We are constantly investing in the platform, planning for the future expansion and greater adoption of digital closings across the industry. Another part of our digital roadmap recognizes and addresses the need to optimally service our agents with an interconnected ecosystem of external partners and technologies that interact and exchange information throughout the entire business workflow. The number of choices, partners and technologies has rapidly grown and will accelerate in the future. With a vision to integrate with anything, We have developed an integration platform built with the latest technology, architecture, and security that will connect our applications and services with internal and external data service providers with standardized integrations that streamline onboarding and promote rapid adoption. We continue to execute on our plan of blending the history of Old Republic solid business practices, procedures, and expertise with technology to fully unlock their measurable benefits across our business units. As we enter the fourth quarter, we are so appreciative of our employees and customers as they continue to meet the high demands of the current real estate market. As always, our guiding principles of integrity, managing for the long run, financial strength, protection of our policyholders, and the wellbeing of our employees and customers will be at the forefront of all we do. And with that, I will turn the call back over to Craig. Thank you.
spk08: All right, Carolyn. Congratulations again. Well, we're extremely pleased with another quarter of exceptional operating results. And we also continue to be very pleased with our specialty strategy, providing a wide range of specialty insurance and products to core industries served by both general insurance and title insurance. which we believe continues to produce value for our shareholders. As you may have also seen, we announced this morning in an 8K that Al Zaccaro has resigned from the board and as chairman of the board. We want to thank Al, of course, for his more than 45 years of service and the enormous contributions he's made to the company. And we wish Al all the best in the future. In that announcement, we also indicated that Spencer Leroy has been elected as chairman of the board and that the board size has been reduced to 13 members. So that concludes our prepared remarks and we'll now open up the discussion to Q&A where I will answer your question or I'll ask Frank or Carolyn to respond.
spk00: At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Matt Carletti with JMP Securities. Your line is unmuted.
spk06: Thanks. Good afternoon. Hello, Matt. Hello. Craig, I'll start with GI. I was hoping you could unpack two numbers for us, the first being The favorable development, just kind of which of the major line items kind of drove that the most and what you're seeing there that drove it. And kind of a similar question on the current accident year ratio looked quite good. And what you're seeing there that has you bringing that down. I mean, from the supplement, it looks like, you know, while small, general liability moved a lot. So it seems like some of that's there. But any more color you can provide would be great. Sure.
spk08: I'll adjust the latter first, and then I'll ask Frank to maybe comment on the favorable development. So on the accident year loss ratio that we have, that is reflective of years of compounding rate increases and also reflective of the line of business mix. So as you see in the release, the third quarter of 21, we had a claim ratio of 68% excluding prior year development, which is an improvement from the third quarter of 20, but less of an improvement if you look at the full year of 20, where we were at 70.7. In our opinion, nothing dramatic there, and again, reflective of the rate increases that we've been achieving. In some lines, quite extraordinary rate increases, as well as a line of business mix changes. Frank, could you comment briefly on the development that we're seeing? Sure.
spk02: So for the quarter, Most of that favorable development is coming from the years of 2015 through 18, and most of the development coming through for general insurance is on workers' comp, although our major lines, workers' comp, commercial auto, and GL, all had favorable development in the quarter. Year-to-date, it's pretty much the same story. The majority of our development is coming from workers' comp.
spk06: Great. Very helpful. And then my other question, I just wanted to shift to title and hope that, you know, maybe you can help us just trying to get a feel for just how things are through. I caught the commentary on, you know, the, you know, I guess not to read too deep into kind of the order flow in terms of, you know, because there's a difference between obviously refi and purchase transactions. But just trying to get an understanding of as that slows down, you know, that the timing and pattern by which that might hit the earned premium numbers for, you know, for the title business. I mean, do you feel like we're at kind of peak volume levels, or are there reasons that you believe that we can stay in this general area, you know, for a while?
spk08: Carolyn, would you like to respond to that?
spk01: Sure. So, I think we've We feel like we've peaked definitely in the REITs and NAT sector, although the last couple of years have showed us it's really hard to predict any of this. But the purchasers, I don't think we've peaked. They feel like they're staying strong. Even if the interest rates climb slightly, We just don't feel like it's going to affect the purchase volumes that much. And because of our mix of agency and direct, we'll have a lag with our revenue coming from our agents by about a quarter. So we'll be able to stay strong in the fourth quarter and I think on into the first part of the year.
spk06: Great, thank you very much for the color and congrats on the next quarter. Thank you, Matt. We appreciate your questions.
spk00: Again, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Greg Peters with Raymond James and Associates. Your line is unmuted.
spk04: Hi, this is Alex Bolton calling in on behalf of Greg Peters. I was wondering if you could touch on renewal retention within GI. Any numbers around that? Renewal retention.
spk07: Could you repeat your question?
spk08: I'm sorry, it broke up a little bit.
spk04: Yeah, if you could touch on renewal retention within GI. Sure, sure.
spk08: Yeah, so as you see, I'll start with commercial auto. And you can see there, if we're obtaining 15% rate increases, but the premium is only growing by about 5%, that there is some leakage in retention. We still have very high retention ratios in the mid-80s. But we are very focused on disciplined underwriting and achieving the appropriate rates. And right now, we think the appropriate rate increase that we need on auto liability is 15% range. Of course, that isn't across the board, but on average. And we have to do that because As we indicated, severity is still increasing. Frequency is coming back. And we still are working to drive down our auto loss ratio. So we're not afraid to let some business flow out if we can't achieve what we believe to be adequate rates. On workers' compensation, similar story, but a few different dynamics. You know, in the marketplace on workers' comp, rates have been generally declining year after year, and we have been doing our very best to hold our rates that we have. Generally speaking, quarter to quarter, we've been either plus or minus a point or two in rate on workers' compensation. So as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, Here, too, if we don't think we can achieve adequate rate, we have let business go. But overall, we think our portfolio is priced adequately at this point on comp to achieve our target loss ratios. On our other lines of business, GL, similar story where pricing discipline in the marketplace may not be quite as robust as it should be. We think some of the social inflation dynamics are working its way into GL and therefore we believe we need GL rate increases and right now We're achieving rate increases in the high single digits. And again, we think those are necessary. And if we're not able to achieve those, we're, again, willing to let the top line drop off a bit. On all of our other business, I would say that our retention ratios are extremely strong. And that even is on lines of business where we're getting substantial rate increases on, for instance, aviation still getting rate increases in the mid-teens, DNO still getting rate increases in the mid-teens as examples, and extremely high retention ratios even at those kind of rate levels.
spk04: Okay, great. Um, and then I guess within, um, I guess talking to your customers, I guess what their perspective on, you know, the labor market and, um, you know, the struggles that they may have with hiring and, um, and even with yourself, you know, what, how's, how's, um, how are you handling the label labor market situations and maybe wage inflation?
spk08: Right. So I'll first just speak to what we're seeing in the way of what it means to our financials. And as I mentioned in my earlier comments, where we are seeing some increase in severity on workers comp is on the indemnity side, and that's being driven mostly by wages. As far as our customers are concerned, there's the newly coined phrase out there, the great resignation with people leaving the labor force, including early retirements. And that is certainly in the short term placing pressure on compensation costs and employee retention with strong demand and lower supply throughout the labor market. So when you look at, for instance, our trucking business, all those dynamics are at work there. And our customers are struggling to get people in place that they need to drive trucks. And they're having to pay them more. And so this dynamic is alive and well. And for us here, in running our business, we're seeing the same thing. We're seeing many of our competitors offering extremely robust compensation packages and trying to lure away some of our folks. So we're seeing the pressure ourselves. Without any question, there is a dynamic out there, again, there's strong demand and lower supply throughout the labor market.
spk04: I guess any expectation? I know you don't get guidance, but impact on expenses?
spk08: Yeah, you know, we're very disciplined in our approach, and we're focused on the long term, as you well know. So there certainly will be pressure somewhat on labor costs, but I wouldn't expect that to impact our overall expense ratio in a dramatic way. But on the other hand, we're cognizant that there's a added headwind out there that hasn't been there for many years.
spk04: OK. on on the title insurance um i'm not sure carolyn if you gave the breakout between refi and and purchase transaction but um i guess is there any data that you can provide that would show that you know maybe there's new purchases from you know people refinancing and buying additional homes um
spk01: I mean, I don't think we have any data that shows that they're refinancing and buying additional homes. We don't have data that follows that. Did I understand your question right?
spk04: Yeah. Yeah. No, I appreciate that. And then, you know, maybe finally just on the board changes. Maybe you can provide some color around decision making on reducing the board and the new chairman.
spk07: Sure.
spk08: Well, we remain very committed to board refreshments. And we've outlined in our letter to shareholders of August 13th, some of the things that we've taken. We've added several new board members. We've had retirements. And we're in discussions with potential new board members. And we've also stated that we ideally would like to have the board at 11 in the long term. You know, I would say that we're on track doing the right thing. And with regard to Spencer Leroy coming on to the board, Spencer has a very deep history of our company. He was our general counsel before he was on the board. He's now an independent member of the board. And Spencer and I have worked very closely together for many years so we expect that to work out very very well and so i would say all things uh considered with regard to the board uh things are on track and and um heading in the right direction great well i appreciate all the answers and congrats on the quarter
spk07: Thank you very much.
spk04: Thanks for your questions.
spk00: Your next question comes from the line of Boris Kuzmin with Crawford Investment. Your line is unmuted.
spk03: Thanks. Good afternoon, guys. A question on investment income. It was positive this quarter, which I think Some would contrast your prior commentary that it's going to be on somewhat of a downward trajectory. So I was just kind of thinking, is this kind of a turning point? And should we expect maybe small positive increases going forward? Or is this just a step up from a higher asset base and then it's going to start trailing back down again?
spk02: Hi, Boris. This is Frank Sedaro. So the quarter had some favorable base happening there because of the debt issuance we did. Now we've then subsequently made a special dividend payment, which will bring that back in line. So I would not expect investment income to continue to trail up. OK.
spk03: Appreciate that. OK. Sure. One more quick question on the title segment. The expense ratio is obviously declining with higher premiums, but what would be more of a sustainable expense ratio in the long run for that segment?
spk01: Well, I would think that we should be able to maintain where we are right now. You know, it's always going to be based on the volume, a higher volume would always help us.
spk03: Yeah. But, I mean, historically it's been probably closer maybe in the low 90s maybe. Right. So...
spk01: So right now, I mean, we're at, I think it's, what, 89 right now.
spk03: It was 86 in this quarter, I think, right, in the expense ratio.
spk08: Yes, 86. And I think if you look back at nine months ended, 2020, we were at 89. So as Carolyn says, I think I don't have the other years in front of me, but as Carolyn says, I think depending upon the volume and how much volume we're able to continue with, even if volume stays relatively flat with the new purchases driving more revenue into the equation. Staying around the 86 mark would be reasonable. However, if volumes fall off and end up back to where they were a few years ago, we would expect that to emerge maybe into the low 90s.
spk03: OK, got it thanks.
spk00: Again, I would just like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile any last minute questions. At this time there are no further questions. Mr Smitty, I turn the call back over to you.
spk08: Okay. Well, again, thank you to everyone on the call for participating and listening and we will keep up the hard work to keep delivering value to our shareholders and all of our stakeholders and things continue to move along as we have said in a very favorable direction and we look forward to reporting next on how things look for the next quarter, and hopefully we will be reporting yet again similar positive results. So thank you all very much, and we wish you all a good afternoon.
spk00: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for attending.
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