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spk01: Good afternoon. My name is Chris, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Old Republic International third quarter 2022 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star one again. Thank you. Joe Calabrese with the Financial Relations Board. You may begin.
spk06: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Old Republic Conference call to discuss third quarter 2022 results. This morning, we distributed a copy of the press release and posted a separate financial supplement, which we assume you have seen or otherwise have access to during the call. Both of the documents are available at Old Republic's website, which is www.oldrepublic.com. Please be advised that this call may involve forward-looking statements as discussed in the press release and financial supplement dated October 27, 2022. Risks associated with these statements can be found in the company's latest SEC filings. This afternoon's conference call will be led by Craig Schmitty, President and CEO of Old Republic International Corporation and several other senior executives. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Craig Schmitty. Please go ahead, sir.
spk03: Okay. Thank you, Joe. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome again to Old Republic's third quarter earnings call. With me today, I have Frank Cedaro, our CFO of ORI, and Carolyn Monroe, president of our title insurance business. Well, as you've seen in this morning's release, ORI had another strong quarter with general insurance producing significantly greater pre-tax operating income. while our title insurance business pre-tax operating income was considerably less than the record setting 2021 results due, of course, to the effects of the increasing mortgage interest rate environment. Our reserve position remains very healthy in all three of our segments with a very high level of favorable reserve releases for general insurance in the quarter. Our balance sheet remains strong. We returned considerable amount of capital to shareholders during the quarter, which we'll talk about a little bit. And we've reduced balance sheet volatility by reducing our exposure to equities by nearly $2 billion since the beginning of the year, reinvesting in fixed income securities at yields, quite frankly, we haven't seen in over a decade. Consolidated net premiums and fees earned were just below $2 billion for the quarter and just below $6 billion year-to-date. Consolidated pre-tax operating income was $258 million for the quarter and stands at $758 million year-to-date. And our consolidated combined ratio came in at a healthy 91.4% for both the quarter and year-to-date periods. Both general insurance and title insurance continue to produce excellent underwriting results as demonstrated in their respective combined ratios. General insurance net premiums earned increased by over 7% for both the quarter and year-to-date periods, while in the third quarter, title insurance net premiums and fees earned decreased by 15% alongside a decrease of 7% year-to-date. As we've commented over the course of the last 12 months, our 2022 expectations for title insurance were considerably less than those expectations of the record-setting 2021 year. We think this downturn in title insurance and the continuing upturn in general insurance reinforces the benefits of our longstanding diversification strategy anchored in the non-correlated PNC and title insurance segments, which provides for steadier earnings and shareholder returns over the long run. So with those opening comments, I'll now turn the discussion over to Frank. And then Frank will turn things back to me to cover general insurance, followed by Carolyn, who will discuss title insurance. And then as always, we'll open up the conversation to Q&A. So Frank, you want to take it from here?
spk02: Sure. Thank you, Craig, and good afternoon, everyone. This morning, we reported third quarter net income, excluding investment gains and losses, of $206 million compared to $240 million last year. On a per share basis, comparable year-over-year income was $0.68 versus $0.79. For the first nine months of this year, operating profit was $608 million compared to $668 million last year. Although both periods were down when compared to the record set last year, earnings were very strong by historical standards. Book value per share ended the quarter at just under $19. When adding back dividends, this was a decrease of 9.4% from the prior year end, as the declines in the values of our bond and stock portfolios were partially offset by our strong operating earnings. Net investment income increased for the quarter as we have turned the corner on yields earned and experienced continued growth in our invested asset base. Our current bond reinvestment rate was just under 4.8%, and our ending bond portfolio yield improved to 3.1%. During the quarter, we continued to rebalance our investment portfolio by reducing our stock holdings and increasing our investments in bonds. As a result, we realized $181 million of net investment gains on sales of common stock. However, we also recognize 207 million of losses on bonds we either sold or intend to sell as part of our tax planning efforts. Our investment portfolio currently stands at about 80% in bonds and short-term investments and 20% in stocks, a level with which we are comfortable given the more favorable interest rate environment. During the quarter, the total fair value of bonds declined by $385 million, while stocks decreased by $170 million. The overall credit quality of our bond portfolio remains strong with approximately 98% of the portfolio in investment-grade securities. Switching to loss reserves, all three operating segments recognize favorable loss reserve development. In total, the consolidated loss ratio benefited by 3.4 percentage points for the quarter compared to 2.3 percentage points for the same period a year ago. Hurricane Ian had a nominal effect on the current period loss costs. Mortgage insurance loss costs continued with a favorable trend of lower newly reported defaults and higher cure rates on loans already in default. The group paid another $35 million in dividends to the parent holding company in the quarter, bringing the total returns to $105 million year to date. I'll wrap up my remarks with a discussion about the capital we have returned since we last spoke. We paid $375 million in dividends, which included a $1 per share special dividend. In addition, up through yesterday, we repurchased about another $225 million worth of our shares. This puts us about halfway through our repurchase authorization, which we will continue to execute on opportunistically. I'll now turn the call back over to Craig for discussion of general insurance.
spk03: Okay, Frank, thanks. So for general insurance, that premium's written increased by almost 10% in the quarter. and we continue to achieve rate increases on many lines of coverage with renewal retention ratios and new business production both remaining very strong. Pre-tax operating income for us rose by 15% to $168 million, and the loss ratio for the quarter was 63% compared to 65% in the third quarter of last year. That's inclusive of four 0.7 percentage points of favorable development this quarter for the general insurance group. The expense ratio was 27% with continued growth in lower loss ratio, higher commission ratio lines of coverage driving approximately one percentage point of additional commission within that expense ratio. The combined ratio was a strong 90% compared to 91% in the third quarter of 21. So now I'll turn to specifically commercial auto. Net premiums written grew by 10% while net premiums earned grew by 7%. And the loss ratio improved to 64% from 73% in the third quarter last year. for auto remains below pre-pandemic levels, while auto liability severity continues to increase at the same high single-digit pace that we've seen over the last year or so. On auto physical damage, severity is increasing at mid-double-digit rates. So we're seeing greater severity on the auto physical damage side. Our rate increases are in the high single-digit range, which implies that we continue to cover overall frequency and severity trends. So we think our rate levels on this line remain adequate relative to the targets we've set for combined ratios. Looking now at workers' compensation, net premiums written there continued to rebound, growing 11%, while net premiums earned grew 7%. And the loss ratio improved to 36% from 59% in the third quarter last year. Loss frequency for work comp continues to trend favorably while severity is slightly up. Rate decreases in workers' comp continue in the low single-digit range for us. So here, too, we think our rate levels remain adequate relative to our target combined ratios. In financial indemnity, more specifically the D&O line of coverage, we saw unfavorable loss development stemming from large security class action claims occurring in accident years 2018 and 2019. And we're no longer seeing the robust rate increases we saw in policy 2019, 2020, and 21 as new D&O market entrants are driving down rates. So we continue to keep a very close eye on the D&O line of coverage and will exercise underwriting discipline, declining accounts that aren't priced adequately, while aggressively managing our attachment points and limits. on public company D&O. More generally, we continue to follow loss frequency and severity trends very closely and adjust our rates for inflationary trends that drive severity, including both general inflation and social inflation. And we also continue to keep a close eye on case and IV&R reserves relative to these trends and adjust accordingly. So we believe our growth strategy and operational excellence initiatives in general insurance will continue to produce solid growth and profitability with new business production, high renewal retention ratios, and generally increasing rate levels all contributing. So I'll now turn the discussion over to you, Carolyn, to report on title insurance.
spk00: Thank you, Craig. The title group reported premium and fee revenue for the quarter of $968 million, down 15% from prior year third quarter. Our pre-tax operating income of $73 million compared to $136 million in third quarter 2021. Agency premiums were down $103 million or 12% over third quarter 2021, and direct premiums and fees were down $71 million or 28%. Increasing mortgage interest rates impacted third quarter and year-to-date comparisons, most notably with a steep decline in refinance activity that has continued throughout the year. While purchase activity has also dropped off, it has been to a much lesser extent, tempering the overall impact. Commercial activity remained strong this quarter with commercial premiums up 29% over third quarter 2021 and made up 21% of our premium total for this quarter. Our combined ratio for third quarter 2022 was 93.7% compared to 89% in third quarter 2021. This increase is primarily driven by the decrease noted in directly produced revenue, which have higher fixed expenses. Agency commissions were down 12.6% for the quarter, roughly in line with the decrease in agency premiums. All other expenses were down by 5.2% in third quarter 2022 over third quarter 21, with personnel expenses representing the vast majority of this decrease. We believe that continuing with our strategic focus on serving our agents, which account for 81% of our revenue this quarter, creates a sustainable competitive advantage. The expense structure associated with this model has a relatively high degree of variable expenses which is beneficial as we continue to navigate current market conditions. We'll continue to deliver on our technology roadmap and digital business plan with a focus on optimization by looking for improvements in productivity and existing revenue with better customer engagement with an automation focus. This balances between improvements in our current business portfolio and workflow while preparing for future changes and transformations. An important achievement at RamQuest, our closing software entity, is the upcoming launch of Horizon, our new web-based and modern title and escrow platform. We see this as a key piece of our technology delivery strategy for our agents, as well as our own internal modernization program for our direct operations. A recent addition to our integration platform supermarket is a verification service that will help combat wire fraud which is an ever-present focus in the industry. We will continue with the addition of value-added services to our agents utilizing our title and escrow platforms as well as our internal operations. We remain committed to combining Old Republic Title's solid business practices, procedures, and expertise in the industry with our growing portfolio of technology to deliver measurable benefits and success for the industry, company, and our shareholders. Thank you, and I'll now turn it back over to Craig.
spk03: Okay, Carolyn, thank you very much. Well, we think we had a good quarter with strong levels of profitability in both general insurance and title insurance. While our diversification and specialty strategy should continue to produce stable, profitable results going forward and long-term value for our shareholders. So that concludes our prepared remarks, and we'll now open up the discussion to Q&A, where I'll answer your questions, or I'll ask Frank or Carolyn to respond. So we'll open up to Q&A.
spk01: Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. Our first question is from Matt Carletti with JMP. Your line is open.
spk06: Hey, thanks. Good afternoon. Hello, Matt. Hello, how are you doing?
spk04: Good. I have a couple questions, one just a numbers question and one a little higher level. On the numbers question, as I look at, I think it's page three of your supplement that shows the loss ratios by looking at the major coverage lines, there was a pretty good uptick in the quarter in general liability. Can you just give a little bit of color there on what might be driving that?
spk03: Sure, Matt. You know, over the quarters, we see this loss ratio move rather significantly in some quarters because, as you can tell by the level of premium, we don't have the scale that we have in some of the other lines like commercial auto and workers' comp. So I know in many quarters I've commented that... that loss ratio is volatile. And we did look at it and tried to identify anything in particular. And there isn't anything specifically that I could point you to, except to say that it's a small line of coverage for us and has a more volatile loss ratio. But if you look back over the years, It evens out.
spk04: Okay, perfect. And then just circling back on, you guys touched there a little bit on some of the kind of the title tech. I'm looking at your slide deck, you know, and you mentioned RamQuest. I was hoping you could give some color on Pabasso, which seems to be more, if I'm understanding it right, kind of, customer facing and kind of making a better experience for customers in the title process with, you know, digital and hybrid closings. Can you, am I understanding that right? And if that is so, you know, is that rolled out across your entire footprint? Is it, is it in its early stages? Kind of maybe just a little bit of color on, on where that stands.
spk03: Carolyn, I, I know you're very passionate about what we're doing in the way of, uh, of technology in our title business and specifically the platforms that Matt referenced. So, do you want to comment on that, please?
spk00: Sure. So, Pavaso would be more of a customer-focused facing platform, but Pavaso is generally used by our lenders. PVASA has been around and it's ready to use any time any of our lenders or realtor customers want to use it. All of our agents have access to it, but it does provide a much better closing experience for the end user, for the buyer, the seller. But it all has to be initiated through the lender because it's all their documents that would come through that would allow, you know, signing through that platform. And so while, you know, Pavaso is there and it's ready, Pavaso got a lot of use during the refinance boom because the lenders controlled that transaction 100 percent. And so that's where we saw a really uptick of use in that platform. But if the lender isn't controlling the whole closing, the whole process, then only pieces of it can be used. So if we're ready, we just continue to wait for the industry to be ready to just totally go with the e-closing.
spk04: Great. Thank you very much for the caller, and congrats on a nice quarter. Thank you, Matt. Thank you.
spk01: Again, as a reminder, that is star one to ask a question. Our next question is from Greg Peters with Raymond James. Your line is open.
spk05: Good afternoon, everyone. I guess I'll – hey, I'd like to start off with a couple questions on your general insurance operations. And I think a good place to start might be the expense ratio. And, Craig, I know you've commented on this – in the past as it relates to changing business mix, et cetera. But if we look at the nine-month results, let's take away the quarter number, you're running about 140 basis points higher in terms of your expense ratio on a year-over-year basis. So I was hoping maybe you could sort of bridge the gap because that looks like it's more than just business mix. It looks like there's some other issues there. So maybe you can help Fill in the blank, sir.
spk03: Yeah, well, as I indicated in my opening comments, Greg, there is about a point of that is the additional commission that is being driven by the line of business MECs relative to the first nine months of 21. So the majority of it is that, and then there's other expenses as well, of course, that are slightly higher. The comment that I would make is we've been pretty consistent that our target combined ratios are between 90 and 95 percent, and I know we, We continue to say that our target is 25% for the expense ratio, but that's based upon the historical line of coverage mix. And we were somewhat hesitant to want to change that expense ratio target if this wasn't going to be more of a permanent thing. And as we continue to move through the quarters, that line of business mix is starting to show us that it's going to stick. So we'll have to look at that more closely in the next few quarters and consider what we want to say about that expense ratio. But again, the majority of it is indeed one point of additional commission expense because of the line of business mix.
spk05: Thank you. And then I guess the other question speaks to, you know, reserves and what's going on on an underlying basis. But, you know, the paid loss ratio continues to trend down versus, you know, what any five- or ten-year average might look like. And your reserve development, prior year development, is trending up. So these look to be good trends. Can you... Can you talk to some of the underlying movements in those two components, and is it conceivable that the paid loss ratio continues to track down, or are we hitting an inflection point where it sort of levels out at this point?
spk03: Well, I would say that we don't really know whether we're at an inflection point. As you asked, it's conceivable that it continues to trend down. Certainly what we're seeing in the way of our reserves in total, including IBNR, we can see that those loss ratios continue to trend down. So it would make sense that both the paid loss ratio and the overall loss ratio trend including IV&R, are both trending down commensurately. So, you know, I think that this is probably representative of all of the work we've done through our operational excellence initiatives, our pricing initiatives, underwriting initiatives, and, of course, the compounding of the rate increases that we've had year over year. It's not surprising to us that our paid loss ratios are coming down, our current accident year loss ratios are coming down, and our reported loss ratios, including development, are coming down. So frankly, it would all be exactly what we were trying to achieve, which is improving How we price the business, improving underwriting selection, claims, risk control, distribution, production, it all is paying dividends as far as we're concerned.
spk05: Yeah, it does look like that. Maybe pivot to the balance sheet. I think I understand what's going on with the sale of your equity portfolio and the you know, going into or part of the equity portfolio and reinvesting in bonds, but maybe you could provide more color on where you think, you know, the relative percentages of your portfolio are going to balance out at considering what's available to you in the marketplace today. And what I'm thinking about is just, you know, what do you see the mix of equities versus bonds in the near term considering all the moving parts that you're looking at?
spk03: Yeah, I'll respond initially and then let Frank get into the details a little bit more. But we're comfortable with that 80-20 mix that Frank referenced, 80% fixed income and 20% equities. And even after we sold, as I mentioned, approximately $2 billion of equities this year and By the way, we didn't sell those equities at lows. We actually sold them with a very nice window within the highs. So after selling those and getting to that 20% level, we're comfortable there. We don't have anything underway to try to reduce that further. But we will always continue to take a look at what kind of yield are we earning on those equities? Because as we said when we became overweight in equities, the reason we were doing that several years ago, we said, was because we could invest in a blue chip equity that was paying a yield on that stock that was 100 or 200 basis points higher than we could achieve if we invested in that same blue chip bond. So we have to keep ourselves intellectually honest here. And as things flip the other direction, we will look at what kind of yield we're achieving on those equities. And if we can but instead invest in the bonds and achieve a rate of 5%, 6%, 7% return on bonds, well, that could result in us taking another look at it. But we don't have any initiative underway to reduce that holding further, and we're fine holding what we have now as long as it's achieving that investment income that was really at the beginning of our strategy when we started to, again, invest in equities in a bigger way several years ago.
spk06: Frank, anything to add to that?
spk02: You didn't leave too much to add, but I'll just put a number around. So 11% of the stocks we sold were within their 52-week high. So we're pretty happy with that. As far as the sales of the bond portfolio, the tax planning, we found a sweet spot on a little bit of the longer end of the maturity curve there. And we're basically replacing to the point where we're staying about where we were on a maturity. Our average maturity has been hovering around 4.4 years, and we've kind of replaced that. So just a little extra color for you. But we're staying at 98% investment grade. very high quality portfolio.
spk05: Great.
spk06: Thanks for all the color. Congratulations on the quarter. Thank you, Greg.
spk01: We have no further questions at this time. I'll turn it over to management for any closing remarks.
spk03: Okay. Well, thank you everyone for your interest and for the conversation this afternoon. As we said, we think we And another successful quarter. And we know that we have headwinds when it comes to real estate markets and interest rate environment. But those were expected headwinds and we're planning accordingly. And likewise, we have some very favorable things happening in the general insurance group as those trends and loss ratio, combined ratio, and income continue to improve and are at very strong levels. So thank you all again, and we will see you again next quarter. Have a good afternoon.
spk01: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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