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2/19/2025
Good afternoon everyone and welcome to Occidental's fourth quarter 2024 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question you may press star and then one using a touch-down telephone. To withdraw your questions you may press star and two. Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time I'd like to turn the floor over to Jordan Tanner, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you Jamie. Good afternoon everyone and thank you for participating in Occidental's fourth quarter 2024 earnings conference call. On the call with us today are Vicki Hollub, President and Chief Executive Officer, Cineo Matthew, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Richard Jackson, President Operations, U.S. Onshore Resources and Carbon Management, and Ken Dillon, Senior Vice President and President International Oil and Gas Operations. This afternoon we will refer to slides available on the Investor section of our website. The presentation includes a cautionary statement on slide two regarding forward-looking statements that will be made on the call this afternoon. We'll also reference a few non-GAAP financial measures today. Reconciliation to the nearest corresponding GAAP measure can be found in the schedules to our earnings release and on our website. I'll now turn the call over to Vicki.
Thank you Jordan and good afternoon everyone. 2024 was a year of strategic execution for Oxy. We positioned the portfolio to maximize value by increasing our exposure to short-cycle high-return assets while also advancing major projects aimed at delivering sustainable returns through the cycle. Our team's relentless focus on performance and commitment to safe and reliable operations enabled us to progress our cash flow priorities, delivering on our near-term deleveraging targets while growing value for our shareholders. I'll begin today by covering our 2024 financial and operational achievements as well as our strategic advancements that will position us for success in the years ahead. Then I'll discuss our priorities and capital plans for 2025. Sunil will follow with a review of our fourth quarter performance and will provide guidance for the first quarter and the full year ahead. Oxy outperformed across all three segments in 2024. We generated $4.9 billion of free cash flow enabling us to pay approximately $800 million of common dividends and to increase the quarterly dividend by more than 22%. As we announced yesterday, we also made significant progress on our cash flow and shareholder return priorities. Through a combination of asset sales and organic cash flow, we achieved our near-term debt repayment target of $4.5 billion, seven months ahead of schedule. Our steadfast commitment to improving our balance sheet is coupled with our drive to invest in our future and generate long-term shareholder value. Capital improvements and operational efficiencies driven by our teams resulted in a capital spend of $6.8 billion, which was the low end of our guidance. Our midstream team also successfully revised key domestic crew transportation contracts to further enhance future cash flows. Now moving to operational excellence. The combination of execution efficiencies along with strong new well deliverability and enhanced base production enabled us to achieve the highest annual U.S. oil production as well as record total company production at 1.33 million BOE per day for Oxy in 2024. This exceeded the upper end of full year guidance. The U.S. record production was driven by continued well performance leadership across our operated U.S. onshore positions in the Delaware, D.J., Midland, and Powder River basins, and Alhousand contributed to their overall company record. In 2024, our teams reduced domestic lease operating expenses per barrel by approximately 9% and lowered well costs by roughly 12% across all unconventional basins. A key differentiator for Oxy is our ability to replace reserves to fortify the long-term sustainability of our business. In 2024, we increased our year-end proved reserve balance to 4.6 billion BOE, which is the highest in Oxy's history. This represents an all-in reserves replacement ratio of 230% for 2024 and an organic reserves replacement ratio of 112%. Extending our over 20-year track record of replacing reserves year after year with the exceptions of the downturn in 2015 and the pandemic in 2020. It's also notable that we have been replacing higher cost production with a higher volume of lower cost new reserves. Annually, our capital spend for oil and gas development is less than our annual DD&A cost. This is driving increased earnings per barrel and increased earnings per share. In addition, our U.S. onshore inventory continues to get better, which is a testament to the portfolio's incredibly rich resources and our team's dedication to continuous improvement. Even after accounting for wells drilled and divestitures, we increased our operated inventory of U.S. unconventional well locations with sub-60 breakeven. At the same time, we improved our average well breakeven by 6%. Our oxycann business also outperformed, exceeding the original guidance midpoint to achieve over $1.1 billion in pre-tax income in 2024. And our midstream segment also performed exceptionally well with our gas marketing optimization efforts offsetting lower in-base and gas realizations in the Permian and contributing to meaningful outperformance against our original guidance. Looking back to 2024, we advanced our strategy across all of our businesses, and I want to highlight a few of them. We closed on the Crown Rock acquisition, adding mid- and -and-scale and high-margin inventory, as well as increasing our access to high-quality unconventional oil assets in the U.S. This is an asset that continues to demonstrate value, with both our financial and production results exceeding expectations. As construction in West Texas moves forward on Stratos, our teams in Squamish, British Columbia, focused on enhancing DAC technology. Some of their innovations are being implemented in Stratos. We believe DAC will deliver long-term value, as well as help achieve U.S. energy security by developing the carbon-neutral fuels the world needs. We have the flexibility to use DAC CO2 for both EOR and sequestration, and some customers are focused on securing carbon-removable credits. CDRs are important to help us prove up the technology and get the cost down. To advance those objectives, we signed several foundational CDR agreements last year. We accelerated the pace of DAC R&D through the integration of our carbon engineering and OXIE teams, which has resulted in an open exchange of ideas that has expanded our culture of innovation. We are looking forward to bringing these learnings to the development of DAC facilities at the South Texas DAC Hub, which was awarded funding from the U.S. Department of Energy. Now I'd like to share a few highlights from our fourth quarter, which demonstrated continued strength in our financial and operational performance to close out a successful year. All three of our business segments also outperformed in the fourth quarter, delivering robust financial returns and generating a $1.4 billion in free cash flow. Our OXIKIN business generated $280 million in adjusted income, benefiting from better realized prices and volumes in both the domestic and international markets. And our midstream business outperformed through continued gas marketing transportation optimization during the fourth quarter and from higher sell-for pricing for Alhosen production. In our oil and gas segment, global production during the fourth quarter was 1.46 million VOE per day, outperforming the midpoint of guidance by 13,000 VOE per day and setting a record for OXIE's highest-ever U.S. quarterly production. Our teams ended 2024 with strong performance and momentum going into 2025. Looking to 2025, our strategic priorities reflect an extension of 2024. We remain committed to delivering value to our shareholders and believe strengthening the balance sheet is paramount to achieving this. Our first priority is to continue our deleveraging progress from last year and deliver sustainable dividend growth. Our announced $1.2 billion of divestiture proceeds will be used for debt reduction. The savings from the reduced interest payments will be allocated to the dividend as this week our board of directors authorized a 9% increase in our common dividend. We recognize the need to balance reducing debt and financial risks today while preserving tomorrow's development opportunities and associated cash flow. To accomplish this, our second priority is to advance our major projects safely and reliably, bringing Stratos online this year and keeping the Battleground modernization and expansion project on track for completion next year. Stratos is progressing on schedule to be commercially operational this year. We completed construction of trains 1 and 2 in December and have been thoroughly impressed by the work of our teams and our construction partner, Worley. Construction on the central processing facilities is expected to be completed in the second quarter with commissioning on trains 1 and 2 in parallel. We expect startup operations to continue in the third quarter with a wrap-up of the initial capacity through year-end. Our Battleground project is also advancing with completion expected in mid-2026 and commercial operations to begin later that year. The project is expected to increase cash flow through improved margins and higher product volumes, generating a strong return while improving OxiChem's market position for key ingredients used in producing clean drinking water, medicine, and soaps. Our third priority is to maintain our culture of innovation and commitment to operational excellence. Our team's relentless drive for improvement and focus on continuing learning have delivered great results to date, enabling us to outperform targets and deliver more with less. This is most recently demonstrated across our Crown Rock acreage, where in just a few months since close, we've identified numerous opportunities to deliver more production, lower well costs, and accelerate returns. This year, we expect a 10% improvement in time to market compared to last year, and we expect a 7% decrease in well costs, which represents a 15% improvement relative to 2023. The teams are continuing to share best practices and innovate through -of-best workshops, which we expect will drive continued efficiency and performance improvements throughout the year. In addition, we see meaningful opportunities to leverage our competitive position, expanded scale, and enhanced capabilities across our full Midland Basin operations. Through the integration, we have identified scale efficiencies and design improvements with the potential to lower well costs across our remaining Midland Basin program by more than $1 million per well through drilling and completion savings. These reverse synergies were a key driver behind the extension of our Midland Basin JV with ECHO Patrol, which will enable additional development of the basin. The agreement further highlights the vital role investment in US oil and most notably the Permian plays in the global market. Our teams are also leveraging innovative ideas to unlock greater resources, achieve cost savings, and improve recoveries. Within our Permian operations, we are pushing the technical limits of well deliverability, deepening reservoir characterization and simulation efforts, and conducting field trials to further advance enhanced oil recovery and unconventional reservoirs. In our Gulf of America international portfolio, we are utilizing advanced seismic to uncover new opportunities and provide a rich data set for AI application. In Algeria, we recently completed the country's largest seismic data acquisition, which was also the largest ever onshore acquisition for Oxy. This will play a key role as we look to enhance value through future development opportunities. We also have an ambitious set of artificial intelligence initiatives ongoing to maximize value and improve margins. Our Gulf of America operations are utilizing AI to improve supply chain management, asset integrity, and reservoir characterization. Additionally, we created an AI Center of Excellence to align all inter-company AI initiatives and accelerate business value. Within our LCD portfolio, we are also at the forefront of direct lithium extraction technology. Working with our JV partner, we are progressing from a pilot to demonstration plant to explore the commerciality of our subsidiary Terra Lithium's patented DLE technology. Turning now to our 2025 capital plan, we aim to maximize cash flow by investing primarily in short cycle high return assets while making measured investments to advance our mid cycle projects to provide future cash flow resilience. This year we plan to invest between $7 billion and $7.2 billion in our energy and chemicals business. The oil and gas capital program is roughly equivalent to 2024 when adjusting for a full year of crown rock in our portfolio. We expect full year production to average approximately $1.42 million .O.E. per day. This represents relatively stable production from 2024 when accounting for a full year of crown rock, though with modest oil growth. Similar to years past, we anticipate production in the first quarter to reflect a low point for the year, with a significant uplift expected from the second half. Sunil will provide more detail on this in our 2025 guidance. Investments in OxyChem are expected to increase to $900 million this year, with 2025 representing the peak year for construction at Battleground. Battleground spend is expected to decrease substantially as the project nears completion in 2026, with OxyChem's capital reverting to maintenance levels the following year. The increase in Battleground spend is largely offset by a decrease in our LCD spend in 2025, which we set at approximately $450 million. The majority of this capital will be for the continued build out of strato's, with the remainder directed towards our South Texas DACUP and Gulf Coast sequestration projects. We built our 2025 capital plan to focus on projects that we believe best position Oxy for long-term success. As in past years, we retain a high degree of flexibility with more than 75% of our oil and gas capital allocated to our U.S. onshore portfolio. This allows us to adapt to commodity price fluctuations and efficiently respond to market conditions. In addition, our focus on short-cycle, high-return, unconventional development will help to facilitate debt reduction, supporting our cash flow priorities and commitment to enhanced shareholder returns.
Now I'll turn the call over to Sunil.
Thank you, Vicky. I will begin today by reviewing our fourth quarter results.
We announced an adjusted profit of $0.80 per diluted share and a reported loss of $0.32 per diluted share. The difference was primarily due to an increase in long-term environmental remediation liability based on a recent unfavorable federal court ruling. We have appealed the ruling and will seek cost recovery from all potentially responsible parties. Annual remediation and potential cash outlays are not expected to materially increase over the next several years and are expected to extend over multiple decades. Our fourth quarter financial and operational outperformance delivered a strong close to the year with all three business segments exceeding guidance. We generated approximately $1.4 billion of free cash flow, benefiting from higher global production volumes despite lower realized oil prices. As Vicky mentioned, our U.S. portfolio achieved record quarterly production, driven largely by high operability and improved well performance across the Delaware and Midland basins. New well performance in our operated Rockies assets also exceeded expectations. Together, this more than offset lower production volumes from our domestic offshore and international assets due to respective weather events and PSC-related impacts. Notably, our 2020 per production was achieved with less capital coming in at the low end of guidance. We had a positive working capital change in the quarter, primarily due to timing of interest payments, impacts from lower oil prices, and fewer barrels on the water at year end. This together with our strong operational performance and disciplined capital program enabled us to exit the quarter with over $2.1 billion of unrestricted cash after repaying $500
million of debt. Now turning to our business plan and guidance. Total capital for
the year is expected to be between $7.4 and $7.6 billion with investment front weighted to the first half of the year. Our capital plan represents a strategic mix of investments balancing short cycle high return assets with investments in no decline non-oil and gas projects to provide diversification and cash flow stability. Our capital waiting towards a higher proportion of short cycle US onshore assets will enable significant cash flow velocity that can be applied to debt reduction. It will also allow us to retain significant flexibility to respond to changing market conditions. In 2025, we expect full year production to average approximately 1.42 million BOE per day representing mid single digit growth from 2024. After adjusting for a full year of ground rock, total production volumes are expected to remain relatively flat though with a nearly
3% increase in oil volumes. As was the case in 2024, our first
quarter production is expected to decrease from the prior quarter due to reduced fourth quarter activity levels and a lower working interest in recently drilled Permian wells. Severe winter weather in January also impacted Permian production. In addition, volumes will be impacted by plant maintenance and platform life extension at On Mountain as well as turnarounds at Elloson and Dolphin. While we expect lower volumes during the first half of the year, production is expected to ramp up in the second half. Much of this increase is coming from the Permian which is expected to grow by more than 15% in 2025 due to a full year of ground rock and modest growth across our legacy positions. As Vicky mentioned, our ground rock assets continue to outperform and are expected to average over 170,000 BOE per day
representing more than 5% growth. Our guidance for Rockies volumes is lower for 2025
driven by the decision to adjust our gas processing to ethane rejection in the DJ basin. This is expected to increase revenues and improve margins delivering greater value from our Rockies assets. Additionally, our announced divestiture of non-operated Rockies interests will lower full year production from the region. When accounting for these items and reduced outside operated activity, our 2025 Rockies production is expected to be essentially flat from last year. Despite AVR maintenance during the first quarter, full year production in our US offshore portfolio is expected to increase relative to 2024. This coupled with our growth out of the Permian is expected to increase our total company oil cut to 52% in 2025. Looking to the chemicals business, OxiCamp ended 2024 with a strong operational performance generating $280 million in adjusted pre-tax income in the fourth quarter and exceeding guidance by $50 million. This was driven by better than expected pricing in both the domestic and international markets as global supply disruptions kept prices higher and demand else strong through the fourth quarter. OxiCamp's first quarter income is expected to be lower than the prior quarter, primarily due to three short-term events. Our operations were affected by the winter storm in January, which temporarily impacted production and restricted access to market. We also had an unplanned outage at our Ingleside facility that lasted approximately two weeks. And we are seeing an increase in raw material costs following higher than expected ethylene plant outages during the first quarter. These temporary cost pressures should ease early in the second quarter once the ethylene suppliers are back online. For the full year, we expect a slight decrease in OxiCamp's earnings and a guiding to a midpoint of $1 billion of pre-tax income. This is driven in part by the events of the first quarter, forecasted higher natural gas prices and expectations for a slightly oversupplied market for the first half of the year, following late 2024 domestic capacity additions. Rationalizations are expected to occur in the second half, which should help to rebalance the market and improve pricing. Our midstream segment had a strong end to the year, with adjusted pre-tax income outperforming guidance by $104 million. The bulk of this was due to gas marketing optimization in the Permian, with our teams once again expertly managing market volatility to maximize margins. Higher sulfur prices for Alusen also contributed to these earnings. All in, our midstream segment demonstrated exceptional performance throughout the year, with adjusted pre-tax income surpassing the midpoint of our original full year guidance by approximately $600 million. We expect slightly lower midstream earnings in 2025, as the opportunities for gas transportation optimization narrow, with increased takeaway capacity now online. While we may see fewer pricing dislocations and opportunities to capitalize on market spreads, we expect our upstream business to benefit from improved realized prices in the Permian. Reduced opportunities to optimize gas marketing will be partially offset by improvements in our crude marketing out of the Permian. As we mentioned previously, we expect to benefit from the revision of two crude transportation contracts at lower rates this year. One of these will be realized at the end of the first quarter, with the second coming into effect at the end of the third quarter. Given the timing, we expect to see an approximate $200 million benefit this year, and expect approximately $400 million in annual savings
in 2026. Turning to our LCB business, we are extremely
excited about Strato's progress to date, and we expect a new year to come. Due to the timing and ramp-up period associated with bringing the first phase online, we are assuming a minimal contribution from Strato's in our midstream guidance. We expect a negative working capital change during the first quarter, which is typical for this time of year, driven by interest payments, property tax, and compensation plan payments. Additionally, there are two upcoming 2024 tax payments as part of the Federal Disaster Relief Program following Hurricane Beryl, which will further impact working capital in the first and second quarters of the year. I would like to close today by reiterating our commitment to strengthening our balance sheet, which will position us to generate greater shareholder returns. As Vicky shared at the start, we are pleased to announce that we successfully achieved our near-term debt reduction target by repaying $4.5 billion in 2024. We are continuing this momentum into 2025 and announced $1.2 billion in dive stitches in the first quarter. Proceeds from these sales will be applied to our 2025 maturities, and excess cash flow after common dividends will be available to further reduce our 2026 and beyond debt maturities. By reducing the amount of cash committed to interest payments today, we will place OXIE in a stronger position to deliver an expanded Return of Capital program in the future. I will now turn the call back over to Vicky.
Thank you, Sunil. As I shared at the start, 2024 was a pivotal year for OXIE. We strengthened our portfolio, delivered on our near-term deleveraging commitments, and advanced our major growth projects. While we delivered exceptional financial and operational results, what excites me the most is the way our teams propelled our business forward, with passion, industry leadership, and a continued focus on innovation and learning, and most importantly, a focus on safety underpinned at all. In 2024, our employees achieved the best year of safety performance ever in our history. That's across oil and gas, midstream, and OXIE chem. The commitment of our people to safe and sustainable operations is embedded in OXIE's core values and helps enable our long-term success. This will be an exciting year for us. Our technical capabilities and portfolio of assets have never been better, and the combination of our three business segments uniquely positions us to capitalize on shared learnings and operational synergies. Bringing Stratus online will be a testament to this, and demonstrating the differentiated strategy and compelling value proposition that OXIE brings to the table. With that, we'll now open the call for questions. And as Jordan mentioned, Richard Jackson and Ken Dillan are here with us today for the Q&A.
Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin that question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star and then one using a touch-tone telephone. If you are using a speaker phone, we do ask that you please pick up your handset prior to pressing the keys. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. We do also ask that you please limit yourselves to a primary question and one follow-up. If you do have further questions, you may re-enter the question queue. And once again, that is by pressing star and one. At this time, we will pause
momentarily to assemble the roster. Our first question today comes from Arun
Jayaram from JPMorgan. Please go ahead with your question.
Yeah, good afternoon. I wanted to see if you could shed some light on the Gulf of Mexico outlook for 2025. You have perhaps some maintenance in one queue and maybe help us think about how the quarterly trajectory could be in the Gulf and maybe some of the projects that are contributing to a little bit of a -over-year growth in 2025 versus 2024.
Ken, you want to share our Gulf of America information?
Thanks, Arun. Yes,
Gulf of America has a busy year ahead. As you know, we really want to carry out fabric maintenance, life extension and painting activities in good weather and away from hurricane season. So this quarter, we have two platforms going through turnarounds. When they come back on, that will add around 16,000 barrels a day. Our drilling activities this year involve six wells. This wedge should add between 18,000 to 22,000 barrels a day for the year. Our production engineering activities, including stimulation along with OBO, should add another 4,000 to 7,000 BOEs per day. And we will carry out a platform turnaround in Q4. So racking these up, including some decline, gets us to a range of 141,000 to 150,000 barrels a day for the year. Opportunistic work may move some things around a bit, but I hope this gives you a real feel for the year. Also, our equipment uptime is top tier, so record levels. And then in addition to these activities, we are also commencing our Gulf of America 2.0 projects, which will add material quantities of low F&D cost barrels. A lot of the capital early this year is focused on Horn Mountain 2.0, and that includes the start of our water floods there, artificial lift projects, which include ESPs and gas lift. So yes, a busy year ahead, but we've got great assets and we've got a really great team there. Great. That's super
helpful. Thanks for the detail. You mentioned that you've announced, I think in early February, an extension to the Eco Patrol JV in the Midland Basin. Can you just give us just some of the basic terms of the agreement and just confirm that this is fully baked in your 2025 guide?
Yeah, the terms are similar to what we had before, and this will be a project that is not huge, but it is an extension in the next year. And we'll drill about 23 wells or so, and I'm looking forward to continuing to work with Eco Patrol to get that done.
Great. Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
And our next question
comes from Betty Zhang from Barclays. Please go ahead with your question.
Great. Thank you for taking my question. I want to start with the Rockies program in 2025, but also how you see that development evolving over the next few years. We did notice based on the presentation that the activity level is much lower, both around the growth and net basis -on-year, and CapEx is sluggish. So just, are there any non-productive capital in there? Does that impact 2026 and beyond? And how should we just be thinking about that program going forward? Thanks.
Yeah, great. Thank you for the question. This is Richard.
I'll walk through a few pieces of that. As you noted, part of it is walking through some of the adjustments, especially if you're thinking about production as we step down with the ethane rejection in the first quarter, and then working through our announced divestitures. From an activity standpoint, the Rockies has got some embedded efficiency. I'd say it's the first place to start. We've, across all of our assets, we've put in the highlights, the improved not only drilling costs, but drilling efficiency, and that's true for the Rockies as well. So they're close to $100 million down, looking at really just more efficiency across their drilling and completion activities. That is offset by infrastructure. And that infrastructure for us is an important development in the DJ base, and this is moving to a larger, more contiguous development area that we've talked about in the past called Bronco. And for us, that gives us about 140 locations at less than $50 break even that we'll be able to prosecute over the next three years. And so while we're trading a bit to that efficiency for the investment in infrastructure, and this story plays out a bit in the Permian as well, we think that's really value added spin for us this year. From an activity standpoint, the Rockies, the only other thing I'll note, Powder River Basin had some really strong well results. I think we highlighted those over the last couple of quarters in terms of the productivity of those wells. We're continuing to monitor those in the first quarter, and then we'll be set to resume activity in the Powder River Basin in the second half of this year into what we believe will be a very competitive program opportunity for us next year as we
contemplate capital.
That's helpful. Thank you. My follow up is on the debt reduction. You guys have made a really strong headway on debt reduction in 2024 and latest in 1Q with the non-core asset sale. There's that $15 billion net debt target still out there. Do you still feel good about reaching that level by late 26 or early 2027? Obviously, commodity price is a factor, but I just wanted to get your sense on that trajectory to that number.
We do still feel comfortable with that. I would say that probably it's going to be more like the first part of 2027, but we feel comfortable with where we are and still have opportunities to supplement our cash flow from operations to
help accomplish that. Our next question comes from Neil Dingman from Truist Securities. Please go
ahead with your question.
Thanks for the time. My first question, Vicki, is just maybe around your 2025 guide specifically. I think you're talking about about a million four BOE per day production and around what, seven and a half million capbacks. I'm just wondering around those two, what type of service cost are you all assuming in there and how much operational efficiencies? Because you certainly have continued to see that both in your DJ and per minute. I'm just wondering if you expected more.
We'll pass this to Richard since he gets 75% of the capital.
Sounds good, but I'll maybe share the answer with Ken a little bit as we talk about service costs. So let me start with the performance. I had noted some of the Rockies improvements, but overall, last year was a very strong year from our drilling and completion teams. We delivered about 12% improvement against 2023 in our drilling and completion costs. That was about half what we call scope and performance. So that's really operational efficiencies, well designs, continuing to improve on those. That was some of the benefit, especially in the Midland Basin that we saw with Crown Rock as we came together as one team. The other roughly half of that was market or sort of the deflationary factors across our services. For 2025, we're looking at around the 7% drilling completion costs improvement. Obviously, uncertainty a bit in terms of service costs and Ken can help address some of that, but we're really focused on continuing to deliver the performance component of that 7%. And so, you know, can get more detail if we get into it, but really just efficiency across, you know, both our drilling and completion activities, lower NPT or nonproductive time across those activities. A bit more improved pad design is leading to some better outcomes in terms of production for lower cost. And so those two things again kind of roll into our 7% for the year on DNC cost.
Great details, and then just a second quick one just on M&A specifically. Vicki, I'd love to hear your thoughts if you think most of the higher quality domestic assets have now transacted. If so, would you now consider maybe boosting international M&A or what's your thoughts around that?
Well, I think we like the international assets that we have today. We intentionally chose these assets. Algeria has incredible reservoirs and we still have opportunities for not only expansion of the operations that we have today, but exploration as well. So we, Algeria is definitely in our future for growth. Also in Oman, we have opportunities for the continued development of oil, but we also have some gas opportunities in Oman that could turn out to be a really good thing for us. We're doing a little bit of exploration in Abu Dhabi just to see how that will turn out. Those reservoirs there are very similar to what we've developed in Oman. So it was, we were the right fit to take those blocks three and five there in Oman. And that's going well so far. So we will start with not only growth in our international projects over the next probably three to five years, but also in the Gulf of America where the AI is not only going to do the things that I described in my script, but also we believe that we're going to be able to unlock some of the complexities in the Gulf. And that that will turn into not just having better success with exploration, but better field development too, and could also help with some of the water flooding projects that Ken has planned. So we like where we have, and we're just going to work on growing the positions that we're already in internationally.
Our next question comes from Paul Chang from Scotiabank. Please go ahead with your question. Thank
you. Good morning. Ricky, did I get it right that in one of, I don't think it's yours, maybe it's a new prepared remark that you expect the per min oil cut is going to be higher in 2024, 2025. If that is correct, what would drive up the oil cut over there? That's the first question.
Hi Paul, this is Richard. I'll take that one. Just a couple of things to think about when we talk about oil cut and the permeant, and then I'll get into a bit of the numbers. First of all, it correlates very well with our unconventional growth. So whether it's year on year or quarter on quarter, you can see that oil cut will track that. The other thing that's happened over the last year is really crown rock coming in. And so Midland Basin obviously has a bit different oil cut than the Delaware. So that mix participates. The other factor I'd like to talk about in the permeant is just our secondary benches. That's been more prevalent in our Delaware position where we've seen an increase with our secondary benches as a mix of our overall program, which as we talked about delivers better value even with a bit lower cut. So as you watch us sort of quarter on quarter, year on year, those are generally the variables that drive it. Now to address your question, yes, we are seeing better oil cut even as we go fourth quarter into the first quarter. And then total year 25 are improving almost a percent as we look at full year versus 25. So again, that's growth that's really tracking our production in our unconventional business in our U.S. Permian development.
And just to clarify what I mentioned in my prepared remarks was the growth from Permian, which Richard just outlined, along with the growth in Gulf of America, which Ken went through the details. So we said the total company oil cut is going to increase to 52 percent in 2025. Just wanted to clarify on that point. Yes, thank you, Sunil.
Rich, what percent of your 2025 program in the Permian is on the secondary benches versus the 2024? And you're saying that the secondary benches is better. So can you give us what is the oil cut in those secondary benches? Thank you.
Yes, perfect. For this year, total, one thing to think about total Permian unconventional development, we talk about primary benches are actually up year on year. And that's because of our Crown Rock development, our very de-rest and provide a lot of primary benches. In the Delaware, this year, we're up about 30 percent in terms of secondary benches as a percentage of our total program versus last year was around 25 percent. And what I, you know, one of the details we've provided in prior calls or talked about is when we say better, those secondary benches are flowing into existing facilities. And so from a total cost per barrel for the year, you're coming out much more advantage. You can double or even triple your return when you're looking at a development program with that sort of benefit coming from facility. So, you know, this year, as we make these investments into these new areas and, you know, I talked about all the 140 wells in the Rockies that were adding with that infrastructure investment, we'll see that same play out on total returns for
the life of the program.
Our next question comes from Roger Reed from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead with your
question.
Yeah, thanks. Good morning or heck, good afternoon. What am I talking about here? Maybe just to quickly come back to the question on drilling and completion efficiencies on, I think it's slide 13, you spelled out the well cost declines this year, 7 percent, and then there's expect to save $1 million per well across remaining program. What is the I'm assuming the million strung out over a longer period of time, but I just wanted to get a little clarity on maybe two different lines of thinking.
Yeah, hi Roger. Good afternoon. That that $1 million was specific to our Midland Basin activity, and that was exciting to us because that was really a benefit coming out of the joint Crown Rock or now OxyRoc team with our legacy Midland Basin team. And so that $1 million was really delivered in the fourth quarter. So we looked at our fourth quarter drilling completion cost. It was $1 million better than our total year 24. We expect that to continue now into 2025. And so quite a few really strong things that were identified from well designed into operational sequencing that came out of that exercise. So we talk about the benefits and cash flow delivery from our OxyRoc assets and team, but it's also helping our overall Midland team as well.
Okay, gotcha. So just sort of built into the things we've seen and will see, but not a separate goal going forward. No,
just built in. Okay.
And then to change pace just a little bit here with the Stratos startup given, you know, this is a very, I would say brand new technology, but it's a brand new at scale, you know, commercial system. What are the main, I don't know if you want to call them, you know, hurdles or milestones or whatever we should be watching as you turn this thing on, ramp it up, commission it this year. I understand not to build in a real profitability in, but what are you looking at as key challenges that will
make you feel more comfortable as you go through the commissioning process?
Hi there, Ken. Just to go through where
we are and then talk through the next step. So I think we're all really excited here. Stratos phase one is 94% complete overall and 98% complete on construction. Last piping spools are being hydro tested, instrumentation and electrical equipment checks are ongoing. So getting very close and as Vicki said, Warley have done incredibly well on the project. And in terms of, so once we've got the mechanical completion for the process area and the calciner, we're then moving into the startup phase. In terms of startup, the OxiChem teams who have been handling these chemicals for decades are preparing the subsystems and the process systems. And essentially the sequences as follows, we'll start pumping water around the system and start running the fans. We've already had a fan running, which was a really good day at site. Then we'll start injecting water into one bay and then mixing potassium hydroxide and the lime. And then we'll start making pellets. Once we start making the pellets, we filter those pellets, we dry them and then we start moving them through the mechanical handling system to the calciner. Start up the calciner and then start capturing CO2, which is a really big day at site. It'll be very small volumes, but it's a really big day. Once we've got one bay moving, then we start other bays and then we start compression and start injection. So those are really the sequences. OxiChem are very experienced in handling these materials. So we have milestones associated with each of these.
Roger, maybe I'll just add a couple of kind of as we think about the business outcome, as Sunil mentioned, we've been conservative this year as we think about the startup and timing of our ramp up to full capacity. And that's really, as we expect to learn a lot through this commissioning and startup, like we do all of our projects, we're looking for opportunities to reduce operating expense. We're looking for opportunities to increase capacity. And so we want to be really thoughtful over the next six months to try to learn as much as we can because the goal is really maximizing both of those outcomes over the next several years. So just wanted to make that tie when you think about the rest of the year for us.
I appreciate that. It'll be
exciting to watch. Thanks.
Our
next question comes from Neil Mehta
from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead with your question.
Yeah, thanks for all the great information. Just a couple of midstream questions. I just love your perspective on the key drivers of that business looking at the guide here for 2025. Q1 looks a little bit weaker and then I guess it builds through the year as closer to breakeven. So just your perspective on the variables that are going into that. And then I have follow up on this.
Yeah, Neil, so if you look at guidance for 2025 compared to 2024, there are multiple moving pieces. So firstly, on the crude marketing side, we're going to get a lower transportation cost. Like I mentioned in my prepared remarks, there are two transportation contracts that are expiring this year. Between those one is in Q1 and the other one is in Q3. So this year we're going to get a benefit of about 200 million. Next year it's going to be 400 million. But some of that is partially offset by the annual FERC escalation of around 3%. So that's on the crude marketing side. And on the gas marketing side, with additional take away capacity now coming online from Permian, we're assuming lower differentials between Permian and Gulf Coast. Then on the allosan side, we are seeing higher sulfur price, which again should be an improvement compared to last year. And then on WES, we sold 19.5 million units last year. So that is going to impact our income. So we'll have lower distribution and lower income compared to last year. And the last thing on LCB, Richard just talked about the startup and the ramp up in strato, which will also have a small negative impact on the income compared to last year. But what I would say is our midstream team is overall very well positioned to capture value when the market does present itself. And again, last year they demonstrated by beating the original guidance by around 600 million dollars.
Yeah, really good numbers. Thank you. That's the follow up is just the framework around WES monetization, recognizing there are a lot of moving pieces. But how are you thinking about the pluses and minuses of that as we think about the deleveraging targets? And how should we think about the tax component that goes into that equation
as well? Well, for us, we continually look at opportunities and evaluate the opportunities. And it all comes down to the value proposition. And so you're right that the tax impact would be a part of that value proposition when we're looking at selling and investing of things that provide significant cash flow as WES does. So that would be a half have to be
a part of what we consider. Our next question comes from Doug Liggett from
Wolf Research. Please go ahead with your question.
Hi, this is John Abbott on for Doug Liggett. Thank you for taking our questions. Our first question is on the Gulf of America. I mean, you spoke about 2025, but can you talk about visibility beyond 2025 and how you see sustainable production?
Sure. Ken here.
I think we intend to have a goal of staying quite long term. If you look at the projects that we're working on at the moment, yes, we have the primary development drilling programs. We also have exploration. So this year, we're involved in two exploration wells, one basically underneath one of our facilities, which has two targets, a Miocene and a Wilcox target. And then the next wave is the EOR and Gulf of America 2.0 projects, which, you know, the water floods carry very low F and D, very low decline, very long term. So again, each of these projects is accreted to lower costs, long term developments, and they're not really pattern water floods. They're basically pressure maintenance projects. So it's not huge drilling overheads on these existing facilities. We have unconventional opportunities. We have fracking opportunities. So the scale of the opportunity in GOM is, you know, hundreds of millions of barrels we see potentially there and have mapped out all of these Gulf of America 2.0 projects. We're just working our way through them. So hopefully that covers your question.
I have to say that I share Ken's enthusiasm about the Gulf of America. It's really going to be for us in the out years, three to five years, it's going to be an important part of our growth story.
Appreciate it. And then the next question that we had was on your EOR business. You no longer break out EOR production in your financials. Could you provide an update where production stands? And is it still around 140,000 barrels per day, which was your run rate a couple of years ago?
Yeah, thanks for the question for our enhanced oil recovery. We remain excited about that business too as we look into the future. From a production level, it's similar. We've had some slight decline over the last really three years. I think you can see from our capital investment, it's been a bit lower the last several years. But what that business has delivered is really great efficiency on cost. So when we talk about a lot of our operating expense reductions, they have led the way. They leverage more to OPEX than they are capital. And so they can really help deliver good cash margin to our business or improving cash margin to our business with those improvements. In the future, this is part of our strategy with CO2 and carbon capture. And so as we get the ability to have lower cost CO2, we're excited about what that business can become. Very low, similar to what Ken talked about in the Gulf of America, very low F&D cost barrels at very low decline. And so when we bring that production on, it's going to provide nice cash flow attributes to complement the rest of our business.
And our next question comes from Leo Mariani from Roth. Please
go ahead with your question.
I wanted to ask just a general question around the low carbon ventures business here. Obviously, we've had a significant change in the administration here in the US. Just wanted to kind of get a sense if you all are thinking about that business differently over the next four years as you kind of proceed to
prosecute things. Not really. I mean, we
are aware of the situation and certainly there's more uncertainty around the IRA and the infrastructure bill. But the way we view this is that CO2 is going to be much needed for the US for our extended energy independence. The reality is that the Shell revolution was an amazing thing that happened here in the United States. We believe the next round of technology that's going to add significant barrels, 50 to 70 billion barrels of reserves, will be production that comes from the use of CO2 in enhanced oil recovery. So 45Q is important for the development of the technology to get the CO2. There's not enough organic CO2 in the country to be able to flood all the things that we're going to need to flood to get that 50 to 70 billion barrels. And that 50 to 70 billion barrels would extend our energy independence by more than 10 years. It's critically important. And so taking CO2 out of the atmosphere is a technology that needs to work for the United States. And President Trump knows the business case for this. I've had several conversations with him. People around him understand the need for at least some initial subsidies to help advance this technology, just as there hasn't been really many transformational technologies that have been developed that didn't have some sort of assistance at the beginning of it. And so we know that we have the capability to get the cost down on these direct air capture facilities. We've been so impressed with the combination of the OXIE and carbon engineering team. The innovation that they're developing so quickly is very, very helpful. But to get to where we need to be, we really need to have 45Q. And so we've been talking with members of Congress and senators, and we've met with many of the new cabinet members. We're getting the story out that the next technology that must work and is very much needed is direct air capture to get the CO2 for these reservoirs. So we're optimistic that everyone, once we get around to everybody, will understand the business case for this. But even if the business case is not completely what we expect from the government, I do believe that we have the capability to get this down faster than we originally thought we would. And so that's where we're headed with it. And it hasn't changed our strategy in terms of what we're doing with Stratos and the King Ranch DAC
facility. And ladies and gentlemen, in the interest of time, this will
conclude today's question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference call back over to Vicki for any closing remarks.
I'd just like to say thank you all for your questions and for joining our call, and hope you have a great rest of your day. Thank
you. The conference has now concluded. We do thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.