3/13/2025

speaker
Tony
Call Operator

Before we begin, let me remind everyone that statements made on this call include forward-looking statements based on the environment as we currently see it, which involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements include our growth prospects, future revenue, operating margins, net income, cash balance, and total addressable market, among others, and represent our management's belief and assumptions only as the date such statements are made, and we undertake no obligation to update these. During today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which are an addition to and not a substitute for or superior to Measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures is available in our earnings release, which can be found on our investor relations website. Further information on these and other factors that could cause the company's financial results to differ materially are included in the filings we make with the Securities Exchange Commission, including our most recently filed Form 10-K-A, as well as our other subsequent filings made with the SEC. With that, I will turn the call over to Jennifer.

speaker
Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

Thank you, Tony, and good afternoon, and thanks for joining us today. I'm proud to share that PagerDuty delivered our third consecutive year of non-gap profitability, demonstrating the fundamental strength and durability of our business model. We achieved 9% annual growth in both revenue and ARR while expanding our non-gap operating margin by nearly 500 basis points to 18%. With free cash flow margin expanding from 15% to 23%, we see the culmination of the fiscal year as a clear testament to our operational discipline and efficient growth strategy. Looking at Q4 specifically, I'm pleased to report we exceeded our guidance ranges, delivering $121 million in revenue and a strong non-GAAP operating margin of 18%. We added $11 million in incremental ARR, bringing our total annual recurring revenue to $494 million. While we're seeing some near-term moderation and growth as we evolve our enterprise sales transformation, the fundamental drivers of our business remain strong. Our strategic position at the center of digital operations gives me confidence in our ability to build momentum into the second half of the fiscal year. Enterprise traction continues to improve as we execute on our strategic shift towards multi-year, multi-product platform partnerships. The power of our operations cloud is evident in expanding product adoption, with multi-product customers now driving 65% of total ARR, up from 62% last year, and marking a substantial 7 percentage point increase since fiscal 2023. These customer relationships continue to validate our strategy, with 72 customers now exceeding $1 million in ARR and 849 customers investing more than $100,000 annually. Most notably, ARR from customers spending over $100,000 grew 12% year-on-year, now representing 71% of total ARR. The combination of our expanding platform capabilities, strong customer relationships, and significant headroom for growth within our install base underscores the opportunity ahead of us. Let me share the three catalysts that will drive further ARR growth and diversification, particularly in our strategic accounts spending more than $100,000. First, we're laser focused on optimizing our field organization's efficiency. This includes executing an enterprise sales transformation and ensuring our new strategic reps reach full productivity. Second, we've delivered new platform monetization strategies that further extend our competitive differentiators and better align with the transformative value we deliver to customers, including our new AI capabilities and frictionless packaging structure. Third, we're building momentum in our commercial segment through targeted digital acquisition and proven retention programs that consistently delivered results. The fundamental opportunity ahead remains robust. We continue to see a $50 billion total addressable market as organizations accelerate their digital operations modernization to avoid the escalating cost of a disruption. We successfully executed several key initiatives in fiscal 2025, but I want to be clear, our revenue performance did not meet our initial expectations, primarily due to go-to-market execution that fell short of our historically high standards. While we are in a meaningful transition to an enterprise focused top down value selling motion, we also adapted to a volatile macro environment. We've seen encouraging proof points with several strategic wins. However, we haven't scaled this motion across our entire enterprise organization at the pace we intended. This transformation of our go to market approach in the face of these macro headwinds has created near term pressure on growth. While this transition hasn't been easy and we still have work ahead, the early success we're seeing from our ramped enterprise representatives is a strong signal that we're on the right path. As you know, I spend a significant portion of my time with customers, and what's encouraging and becoming increasingly evident is that operational maturity and resilience are no longer nice to haves. They're becoming central to the enterprise business strategy and to revenue acquisition. We're seeing this play out in compelling new use cases, customers leveraging our platform for customer service operations, using PD Advance for predictive incident management, and implementing automated remediation at scale. The addressable market is substantial, and we're still in the early innings of this opportunity. The numbers tell a compelling story. AIOps, automation and customer service operations maintained over 40% contribution to incremental ARR for two consecutive quarters. This validates our platform strategy, widens our competitive modes and shows how our product creates tangible value for customers. While market demand remained strong, we instituted a number of changes during the second half of FY25 to improve our execution. In addition to sales leadership improvements across most of our theaters, I became more directly involved with the teams to drive three key improvements, transforming our go-to-market practices, redefining our approach to sustainable value capture, and sharpening our product team's focus on monetizing our innovation. That said, I want to be clear that while we're executing with urgency and the majority of these changes are underway, we expect the financial impact to materialize gradually over time. Given this reality and our commitment to operational discipline, we've taken a pragmatic approach to our full year outlook. The pace of our platform innovation also represents our sense of urgency and commitment to building on our leadership position. Just weeks into FY26, we announced a game-changing expansion of our AI capabilities that puts PagerDuty at the forefront of intelligent operations with new PagerDuty AI agents. These AI agents aren't just another chat bot or basic automation tool. They're sophisticated partners that work alongside human responders to intelligently identify, triage, and resolve high-value operational issues. We're launching these three specialized agents, one focused on site reliability engineering, another on operations analysis, and a third on scheduling optimization, all powered by our proprietary technology, our foundational data model, and deeply integrated into our automation workflows. What's exciting is how these innovations align with what our enterprise customers are telling us they need, intelligent automation that enhances human capability on a highly secure and resilient platform. Our customers now partner with us to mature beyond response to prevention and revenue optimization. To accelerate adoption, we've democratized access to our AI and automation capabilities by streamlining our incident management plans. This advance embeds these powerful features across all paid tiers because we believe every organization, regardless of size, should have access to enterprise-grade, AI-centric digital operations capabilities within a single, secure, and scalable platform. We also introduced an AI use case library featuring field-tested prompts and deepening our integration with several key ecosystem partners, including Slack, Zoom, and Amazon Q. These integration partnerships are key differentiators and exciting because they seed new use cases across our customer base. Our platform innovation strategy coupled with our maturing solution selling approach contributed to a sequential improvement in large deal momentum in Q4. This performance demonstrates our position as the digital operations leader trusted by the world's largest and most innovative companies. Let me share a few customer highlights from the quarter that showcase how enterprises are expanding their use of PagerDuty and the measurable value we're delivering. One of North America's largest financial institutions, a longstanding customer, recently made a significant three-year enterprise-wide commitment to pager duty following their successful initial deployment of AIOps across digital, wealth management, and capital markets. The results speak for themselves, a 28% reduction in incident duration and 43% decrease in human effort. through our AI-driven automation capabilities. With a projected ROI of 400%, this expansion across the full PagerDuty Operations Cloud validates PagerDuty's strategic role in digital operations and demonstrates how our platform drives measurable value at scale. I'm excited to highlight a global semiconductor supplier, a leader in AI innovation who significantly expanded their partnership with PagerDuty to standardize incident management across their AI, cloud, and data center operations. What's compelling about this expansion is how they're leveraging our platform to automate real-time response, to improve system resilience, and to reduce overall operational overhead. all critical capabilities for supporting their groundbreaking AI initiatives. The scale of this commitment, more than tripling their seven-figure investment in less than two years, is impressive. It's exactly the kind of strategic partnership that demonstrates the transformative value we deliver to the world's largest and most innovative companies. In Europe, I'm thrilled to share that a major telecommunications provider scaled to become a million-dollar ARR customer in just their first year with PagerDuty. What's noteworthy about this win is that they chose to expand with us over incumbent consolidators, specifically because of our platform's ability to deliver rapid time-to-value, manage unstructured data, and deliver superior operational outcomes. Within just six months, we successfully integrated with their existing ITSM infrastructure and automated end-to-end incident workflows across IT and network operations, supporting hundreds of responders without requiring additional headcount. This is a perfect example of why customers choose PagerDuty over legacy vendors. We deliver specialized operational intelligence and automation that generic IT tools simply cannot match. Our seamless integration with existing tools continues to be a key differentiator in these competitive enterprise opportunities. One final example comes from a global media enterprise that expanded to become a multimillion-dollar partner. Their relationship is compelling, given how they've leveraged the capabilities of PD Advance to transform their digital operations. This customer journey illustrates well how our investments in enterprise incident management, from enhanced security and authentication to AI and advanced workflow capabilities, are meeting the sophisticated needs of complex large-scale operations. This pattern of expansion isn't unique. In highly regulated industries, operational resilience is mission critical. Organizations are choosing PagerDuty not only for incident management, but as their strategic platform for intelligent digital operations. Turning to our market momentum, we kicked off PagerDuty On Tour 2025 in London last month with upcoming events across Sydney, Tokyo, and San Francisco, markets that represent significant enterprise opportunities. These events are powerful forums where enterprise leaders and practitioners experience firsthand the full capabilities of our Operations Cloud platform. Featured at these events are the testimonials of our customers who are leveraging our latest innovations to drive compelling operational transformation. We intentionally shifted the series to Q1 this year, positioning us to build pipeline momentum early and capitalize on the growing enterprise demand we're seeing across these key regions. The timing is especially important as we continue to evolve our enterprise go-to-market motion. These events give us the opportunity to engage directly with both executives and users, demonstrate our expanded platform value proposition, and reinforce our position as the leader in digital operations. Our culture of community responsibility earned notable recognition again this quarter, including Fortune's Best Workplaces for Parents and the 2025 Big Innovation Award. Our impact segment serving education and nonprofit customers grew 25% to nearly 600 organizations globally. I'm excited about the most recent additions we've made to strengthen our leadership team. We welcome David Williams as SVP of Product to drive our AI and automation initiatives, bringing his exceptional experience in scaling enterprise SaaS platforms and deep AI expertise from his entrepreneurial background. And this week, we announced Allison Corley as our Chief Customer Officer with nearly three decades of customer success leadership from companies like Smartsheet, Workday, and Microsoft. Additionally, Sarah Franklin joined our board in December with her impressive track record as the CEO of Lattice and former President and Chief Marketing Officer of Salesforce, where she helped scale the business while building the vibrant Trailblazer community. These appointments come at a pivotal time as we innovate on PD Advance and accelerate enterprise expansion. I'm confident the combined experience will support us in our pursuit of the significant market opportunity ahead. Lastly, we've initiated a search for Chief Revenue Officer as part of our ongoing effort to refine our revenue strategy and to ensure our leadership, people, processes, and systems are optimally positioned to sustain and grow our market share. As a part of this transition, Jeremy Komet, our SVP of Global Field Operations, will be leaving PagerDuty at the end of Fiscal Q1. Over the past eight years, Jeremy's been an invaluable leader, and we're grateful for his dedication, his vision, and the strong foundation he has helped to build. While we face some execution challenges, we've taken decisive action to improve sales efficiency and fully capture the value of expanding our operations cloud platform. The catalysts for growth are in place. We've strengthened our leadership team, enhanced our go-to-market motion, and we're seeing strong early interest in our AI agents from enterprise customers. Looking ahead, I'm confident in our strategy and our ability to execute. We're laser focused on three priorities, building and converting a robust pipeline, accelerating enterprise adoption, and demonstrating how our platform innovations drive measurable customer value. The fundamentals of our business remain strong with the strategic initiatives we put in place, combined with our track record for operational discipline, we're well positioned to capture the significant market opportunity ahead. I'll close by thanking our customers who are achieving remarkable results with our platform. and our dedicated employees who make these outcomes possible, our strategic partners, and our shareholders for their continued support as we accelerate our enterprise transformation. With that, I'll turn the call to Howard and look forward to your questions.

speaker
Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

Thank you, Jen, and good day to everyone joining us on this afternoon's call. Unless otherwise stated, all references to our expenses and operating results on this call are on a non-GAAP basis and are reconciled to our GAAP results in the earnings release that was posted on our investor relations website before the call. As Jen articulated, we expect the catalyst for high performance to be consistent improvements in sales productivity. Over the past 12 months, we have successfully reconfigured our sales organization to be an enterprise-focused sales team, hiring to the right profile of quota carriers while remaining within the existing expense envelope, a strategy we will maintain throughout FY26. With a significant portion of quota carriers joining in the second half, our focus has shifted from hiring, onboarding, and enablement to rigorous account management and sales execution. As a greater mix of our field becomes fully ramped in proactively championing the operations cloud, we are laying the foundation for increased momentum in the second half. Today's announcement of a new $150 million share repurchase program is a clear signal of confidence from our board and management team in the FY26 plan and the durability of our free cash flow. Please note the $100 million repurchase program announced in Q2 of FY25 was completed during the fourth quarter. Moving to results. Revenue for the quarter was $121 million, up 9% year over year. International revenue increased 10% annually, contributing 28% of total revenue. Annual recurring revenue exiting Q4 grew 9% year over year to $494 million. We delivered 106% dollar-based net retention, fractionally below our expectation for the full fiscal year. I'm encouraged by the improving trend of annualized gross retention over the past four quarters, as well as enterprise dollar-based net retention continuing to outpace the commercial segment by approximately 10 percentage points. Customers spending over $100,000 in annual recurring revenue grew to 849, up 6% from a year ago. This was our strongest quarterly performance of the fiscal year with 24 additions to the cohort. Total paid customers increased by 64 to 15,114 in Q4. Free and paid companies on our platform grew to over 31,000, an increase of approximately 10% compared to Q4 of last year. In terms of metrics that we provide on an annual basis, headcount increased to 1,242, up 5% year over year. Customers with annual recurring revenue over $1 million increased to 72, up 24% compared to Q4 of last year. Annual recurring revenue from customers using two or more paid products was 65%, up from 62% in FY24. Annual recurring revenue contribution from incident management was 70% of the total, compared to 73% in FY24. And the contribution from our $100,000 cohort was 71% up from 70% in FY24. Q4 gross margin was 86% at the high end of our 84 to 86% target range. Operating income was $22 million or 18% of revenue compared to $11 million or 10% of revenue in the same quarter last year. The outperformance relative to our guidance was driven by delays in headcount starts and timing of marketing and consulting expenses. In terms of cash flow for the quarter, cash from operations was $31 million or 26% of revenue and free cash flow was $29 million or 24% of revenue. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $571 million in cash, cash equivalents and investments. On a trading 12 months basis, billings were $485 million, an increase of 8% compared to a year ago. With respect to Q1, we anticipate 12 months billings growth to be approximately 8%. At the end of Q4, total remaining performance obligations was approximately $440 million. Of this amount, approximately $302 million, or 69%, is expected to be recognized over the next 12 months. As a reminder, as of FY25, our RPO disclosure includes contracts with an original term of less than 12 months. Applying the current definition to the year-ago period, total RPO increased 21% on a like-for-like basis over Q4 FY24, which would have been $364 million. To provide some context before turning to guidance, Importantly, we have daily revenue recognition and Q1 of FY26 is three days shorter than Q4 of FY25. The impact of this is approximately $3 million less revenue in Q1 and $3 million higher revenue in the remainder of the year. For the fiscal quarter, For the first quarter fiscal 2026, we expect revenue in the range of $118 to $120 million, representing a growth rate of 6 to 8%. And net income per diluted share attributable to PagerDuty Inc. in the range of 18 to 19 cents. This implies an operating margin of 15%. For the full fiscal year 2026, we're initiating guidance of revenue in the range of 500 to $507 million, representing a growth rate of seven to 8%. And net income per diluted share attributable to PageDuty Inc in the range of 90 to 95 cents. This implies an operating margin of 19 to 20%. Before moving to questions, I would like to provide assistance with modeling FY26. Firstly, we plan to fully update and share our long-term projections later this year. However, in advance of doing that, we have updated our long-term operating margin target, increasing it from 20% to 30%. Specifically with respect to FY26, our EPS guidance incorporates a non-GAAP tax rate of 22% for each quarter of FY26, which represents approximately 4 cents of EPS in Q1 and 21 cents in FY26. Interest payments on our 2028 convertible notes are made semi-annually in arrears in Q1 and Q3. and the remaining balance of $58 million from our 2025 convertible notes is due in the second quarter. Reflecting on the fiscal year, we encountered certain challenges. However, we strategically implemented targeted initiatives that have enabled us to eliminate inefficiencies and deliver enhanced capabilities across the operations cloud. While we expect revenue momentum to build steadily, our focus on driving incremental ARR across both enterprise and commercial segments positions us with a resilient foundation for sustained long-term growth this fiscal year. With that, I will open up the call for Q&A.

speaker
Josh
Moderator

Thank you, team. Howard and Jen, we are turning to questions and we have Panelists that have already raised their hand to the rest of our analysts, please go ahead and raise your hand to be included in the queue. And we're going to turn first to Andrew Sherman at TD Cowan. Andrew, please go ahead.

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Andrew Sherman
Analyst, TD Cowan

Oh, great. Thanks. Good to see you. Jen, maybe just given all the macro changes in the last six weeks or so, we'd love to hear an update on what you're seeing in the market and any change to your business. I don't think you have much government business, but we'd love to hear any observations on that too.

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

Yeah, I think it's too soon to tell whether the current tariff environment will have a derivative effect on how customers approach spending. So we've consistently seen customers looking for platforms with a higher ROI, short payback period, and the ability to see true efficiency. And efficiency has been a theme in almost all of the large deals that we've done. Although I'd also say that our customers have matured the digital aspects of their business such that when I talk to senior leaders, and I'm out in the market with our customers a lot, I'm hearing a lot more about revenue optimization? How do I ensure revenue capture? It's not just about making sure that your web apps are available, but making sure that a transaction can be completed, that you actually have a value trade that is closed through that process. And so I think for us, it just is going to continue to be a focus on execution, making sure we're delivering great account engagement with our largest accounts, that we understand the challenges that they're facing and that we have multi-threaded relationships with those customers. But at this point, we're kind of used to a volatile macro. So it's sort of business as usual.

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Andrew Sherman
Analyst, TD Cowan

Okay, great. One more for you. You have a bunch of new sales leaders in the different regions. You know, you're now looking for a CRO. You've kind of migrated everyone to the same enterprise playbook. But maybe just touch on how those reps are ramping to productivity. Do you need to hire more reps? Any other go to market tweaks to start the year at all?

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

Sure, it's a great question. Thank you for that. So we made a number of leadership changes over the course of the year and across many of our major theaters. And those folks have now been in seat and really understand the product and platform. And I've also been leading what I'd call a talent rotation If you think about it, historically, our enterprise play still leveraged our high velocity land and expand motion. And we started with a single product and would add on other products. But buying behavior changed and that required us to build more of a top down platform value led sale. And so part of the talent rotation that we've been through over the course of the last couple of quarters has been to identify top-down platform reps who have experience and a significant track record, also with networks and relationships in our largest customers. And those hires where the profile's been updated, we're seeing them ramp faster than the existing cohort and become productive sooner, particularly around large deals. So we have a number of hires already made that will be ramped through the back half of this year. And I think that puts us in a good position from a capacity perspective. It's also fair to say, and I know our sales leadership team would say this is true, I am laser focused on identifying opportunities for increased effectiveness and productivity, as well as efficiency. So that's ramp, that's pipe conversion, pipe quality, making sure that we standardize our the way we go to market, but also inspecting our largest accounts to ensure that our account engagement meets the high standards that our customers expect. Because when we have strong account engagement, we grow and we see the platform effect take hold.

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Andrew Sherman
Analyst, TD Cowan

Great. Thanks, Jen.

speaker
Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

Thank you.

speaker
Josh
Moderator

Thanks, team. We are moving next to Koji Ikeda from Bank of America. Koji, please join us.

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Koji Ikeda
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, thanks, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. So maybe the first one there on the competitive front, you know, we saw on the news out there that one of the the legacy vendors tucked away in a large organization might be going end of life here pretty shortly. And so from a high level, how should we be thinking about this as a potential opportunity for PagerDuty?

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

Well, I think the first thing to think about is despite increasing competitive intensity, which has been primarily in the product marketing space and in the sales side of things, we've continued to improve our retention levels. We also, I believe, have the strongest and most differentiated platform for large enterprise. But I'm not really surprised by this move because we've seen it before. We've seen it when other acquisitions have been made and then retired. And I think it just goes to some of the. the product and differentiation and advantages that we've been able to demonstrate year over year, not the least of which that we're able to scale reliably and securely for a large enterprise and deliver the type of resilience that these customers expect when it really matters. And that's hard to do. It's an expensive exercise and we've been able to do it while delivering solid gross margins above 85%. You know, I think when we, I said this earlier, but when we do a good job from an account engagement perspective, and we're multi-threaded across both practitioners, but also strategic and economic buyers, we win very effectively. And so it's about scaling those standards for go to market, those standards for account engagement throughout our install base and really going after the value capture and monetization of the platform innovation we've already invested on to capture some of that white space opportunity within the install base.

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Koji Ikeda
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Thank you. And maybe a follow up for Howard. You know, when I look at the guide and I quickly kind of punch in numbers in our model, I think it does imply accelerating growth in the second half, just based on the commentary, too, with the sales capacity. Is that the right way to think about the guide? And then outside of sales capacity ramping, what else are you seeing maybe in the pipeline that's giving you the confidence to guide like that?

speaker
Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

Yeah, sure. So thanks, Koji. And maybe just to give you how I've thought about guidance for this year, some of the building blocks for us. With us exiting the year with an ARR growth rate of 9%, I factored that into how we would see the evolution of ARR through the year, including incremental ARR being added through the year that would lead to an acceleration in the back half of the year. So you're quite right in terms of expecting that trajectory. When I look at Q1 in isolation, I would think that the incremental ARR that we will deliver will still result in a high single digit level growth rate in ARR for Q1. We're thinking about this phasing as the hiring that we did in the back half of the year comes fully online to be able to then support the higher growth through the back half of the year. What gives me confidence in that is, one, we've seen improved management of both our pipeline from a velocity and from a quality perspective. And we expect the initiatives that we have around that to continue with the sales leadership that we have brought on board recently. And then I think the other aspect of it is when I just look at the numbers in terms of the success we've had with customers above 100K, where we've had a growth rate in ARR of those customers of 12% year over year. And we've seen that become a larger portion at 71% of our ARR. It proves that the strategic focus that we have on the enterprise is what really is going to underpin our growth. So those factors together have been factored into how we've thought about guidance for the year.

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Koji Ikeda
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Yep. No, thank you for that. Yeah. Great, great growth on that 1 million plus customer on a year over year basis. So definitely see it there. Yep. Thanks guys. Appreciate it.

speaker
Josh
Moderator

Okay. Thank you, Koji. And we're moving next to Sanjay Singh from Morgan Stanley. Sanjay, please join us. Yeah, thank you for taking the question.

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Sanjay Singh
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

And just talking about some of the metrics on how the business is evolving, you're now getting 30% of your ARR outside of incident management. I was wondering if you could provide any color and detail on what offerings are sort of leading the charge in that 30% bucket, number one. And then, Jen, PagerDuty Advanced, what is that – doing to your deal sizes from an uplift perspective when they are included in your renewal or expansion opportunities?

speaker
Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

Sure. So from a product perspective, AIOps has really been an important attached product for us because unlike some of the point solutions out there or some of the observability plays that you'll see, our AIOps solution is deeply integrated into the entire operational workflow from detection to automated triage, the orchestration of bringing the right people into a response and increasingly the right agents into a response, and then the automation all the way through to resolution. When you try and use a point solution or you just look at it from an insights perspective, you're not actually closing the loop on the work that has to get done to both prevent you know, financial challenges or costs in your business, but also to in order to optimize the revenue that you're trying to generate through your digital assets. So that I think has been a really important and strategic plain for us to continue to grow, not only how our customers invest with us, but how they think about the platform. Automation is another, and automation isn't just the process automation solution that we have, but also automated incident workflows across the board. And then I think the role that PD Advance is playing is really helping our responders to compress the amount of time it takes to diagnose or triage and then respond to an incident to also be more efficient in how they communicate more broadly with the organization and with their customers about what are happening. And so right now it's more of an efficiency builder, but as customers get used to using it and we drive more features through PD Advance as well as agents, I think you'll start to see that have an impact on growth. And you'll recall that we're testing or actually we're in market with consumption-based pricing in this case. And so I think it's a really good complement to the current flexible pricing model that we have.

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Sanjay Singh
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

And that makes a ton of sense. My one quick follow-up was when we looked at some of your customer highlights this quarter, I saw the term multi-year agreement, right? Kind of across the board. Is that a shift? Is this part of the market shift that you guys are making? Is this something intentional or is this something that the customer is naturally pulling you towards? Is that a way to... drive increased gross retention and stickiness in terms of the retention rates?

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

This has been very intentional. If you remember, the vast majority of our business that was termed was a single year, and that was kind of part of that land and expand high velocity frictionless motion. But as we got into larger enterprise, one, the process in a top-down strategic sourcing environment was to renew is administratively more heavy. So we're incented to have customers engage with us over long periods of time. And what we also found was that customers want certainty. And it's, I think, harder than people might imagine to change a platform like ours out. We're deeply integrated in some cases all the way through to runtime. And they don't want to be surprised by either our product roadmap or pricing, et cetera. And so when we started the process of really encouraging our go-to-market organization and our renewals organization to work towards multi-year agreements, what we found was our customers were highly engaged and very well aligned in that regard. So it has been a concerted effort. That we measure and, you know, we we have a significant portion now of our term contracts that are multi year. And that's something we're going to continue to focus on. But, you know, the number one, the first principle there, too, is long term relationships are more profitable and they tend to be more valuable on both sides. Mm hmm.

speaker
Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

And I would just add to that, you know, not only does this signal a strategic relationship from our perspective for the customer, it also signals a strategic relationship. So we've seen, you know, since we started with this initiative going back two years, we've seen an increase each quarter in terms of the number of contracts that are covered from a multi-year perspective.

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Sanjay Singh
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

That's great. Great call. I appreciate it. Thank you so much.

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Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

Thanks, Andrew.

speaker
Josh
Moderator

Thank you. Moving next to Kingsley Crane. Kingsley from CGF. Go ahead, Kingsley. Thanks.

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Kingsley Crane
Analyst, CGF

Hey, Jen. Hey, Howard. Thanks for taking the question. Hope my video isn't spotty, but I want to touch on PagerDuty Advance. When I think about the naming of a Gentic SRE and a Gentic operations analyst, I think it begs the question, do you feel like these capabilities are compelling enough to demonstrate replacement of an analyst at the customer level? Just kind of curious if that's how they're being positioned and then how to think about customer ROI and how that flows into pricing.

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

Yeah, they're really being positioned as being complementary to human responders. And I think what's important is a lot of incident response is working through complexity and trying to understand dependencies to identify contributing factors to a failure is very rarely straightforward and very rarely are major incidents isolated to a single team. And so you have these kind of unique data issues or problem solving issues where a single responder doesn't have visibility to what's going on across teams. But an agentic responder leveraging a foundational data model could get to at least get pointed in the right direction faster and start to make suggestions, recommendations, take down what i would call simple simpler tasks first but also support the process of complex problem solving so we see these things being complementary as opposed to more of a replacement orientation and at the same time you know i we we see customers looking to reduce the blast radius of major incidents meaning how long an incident runs, the impact that an incident has across their customer base or their risk profile, whether it's compliance, for instance, or issues around customer trust. And so anything that you can do to help teams resolve a problem faster, but also learn from it and prevent it from happening again is important. And that's something that we've done by including Jelly's feature set inside of our incident management solution. So today we see it as complementary, but certainly there are going to be tasks that a number of responders right now have to undertake that are repeatable, menial, lower value that these agents can pick up. That I don't think will reduce the need for talented engineers to be part of these major incidents when they happen, because they do require, a lot of these solutions require high judgment.

speaker
Kingsley Crane
Analyst, CGF

Yeah, that's really interesting. And then second one, you talked last quarter about incentivizing some customers initially with some free credits to use GenAI. You had some good response there. Just kind of curious if that initiative continued in Q4 and what kind of response you saw.

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

Howard, I'll let you take that.

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Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

Yeah, sure. So Kingsley, what we've done is that in terms of some of the most recent packaging announcements that we've made, in fact, just last month in February, that in fact was a change in our lineup to be able to provide all paid customers with access to the operations cloud. And that included elements, of course, of PD Advanced. So all customers end up with a certain amount of usage that they can get before they they would then convert to paying for incremental use. So we believe that's a strong model for allowing customers to be able to understand the value that they're going to get within their own environment, with their context, and can see what it will surface for them. And that's leading to really good discussions and, in fact, expansion on deals as a result of them having that access.

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Kingsley Crane
Analyst, CGF

Great to hear. Thank you.

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Josh
Moderator

Okay, thank you. Moving next to JP Morgan, we have Vindalem Bora joining us. Vindalem, go ahead.

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Vindalem Bora
Analyst, JP Morgan

Great. Yeah, thank you for taking the questions. Good to see you guys. Jennifer, I want to ask you a little bit on the sales execution you had highlighted or talked about in the prepared remarks a couple of times. Could you maybe elaborate exactly what execution issues have you kind of faced and what are you doing as you step into the new year specifically to fix those issues? And then, Howard, maybe talk about just the bookings cadence that you have seen. And I'm trying to think about the assumptions around the guidance around NRR. And are you baking in a little bit of a caution given what we have seen over the last two weeks on macro?

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

Sure. So I'll start from a sales execution perspective. You know, what we've talked about is, one, having to adapt to a change in the way our customers buy. So historically, we were able to grow in enterprise meaningfully with that land and expand high velocity motion, really targeting customers. the technical user, the technical buyer within the organization. When the market shifted and customers really started to centralize authority to buy and force vendors into more of a procurement-led sale, we had to shift the way we engage. At the same time, we were going through a transition from you know, being a technical product sale to developers to a multi-product platform sale to economic buyers. And what we learned when the land and expand motion didn't meet the requirements of our customers buying behavior was that we needed to change the profile of rep to be successful. We found that when we've done that, when we've hired a rep who has the background of selling multi-product platforms top-down, you know, through more of a traditional technology leaders organization, they're more successful in selling the operations cloud in driving a multi-year six or seven figure agreement. And so we've been going through that talent rotation. And we've also found that the more experienced a rep is in that sort of top-down selling motion, the more likely they are to ramp faster than previous cohorts. So that's one part of it. I think the second part of it is when you're not selling high in the organization and you can rely on the DevOps community almost in a singular way, you don't really have visibility to what else is going on inside of a large organization. And by By engaging more closely and building account management that is multi-threaded across personas, that really helps us understand what's going on in the entire picture for the CIO or CTO, we've been able to better match to their budgeted initiatives. And again, when we do that, our success rates are higher. And so that's a big part of what we're doing. It is more about transforming to a true platform sales motion. Even simple things like attaching services and making sure that customers are deployed effectively, because even though our platform is relatively simple to deploy compared to large legacy platforms, these organizations that we're deploying into themselves are complex and they sometimes you know, need more support in doing that. But in the land and expand frictionless motion, you're not selling a lot of services. So it's just, it's really more the evolution of how the market moved, how we need to move as a result of that and having the opportunity to monetize a multi-product platform to sustainably capture value at the same time that the market requires, you know, a different vendor support model, I guess is a good way to put it.

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Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

Yeah, and I think just to add on to Jen's comments, because as a CFO, I want to make sure that we're not doing this at a rate that's going to be too expensive. So we're committed to improving our sales and marketing efficiency, even to the extent that as we entered this year, we made some changes to reduce our run rate so that we could, in fact, continue our evolution into this full enterprise sales motion, but really by optimizing the existing spend that we had. So this hasn't been like, it's not an additive expense that we're going through, but rather it's a case that we've been reconfiguring the resources that we have to be able to deliver this alignment with how our customers are buying. And then I think, Pendulum, to your question, how to think about bookings through the year, we've taken a view on bookings that anticipates a number of things taking place. One is based on the success that we've already seen with our larger customers. We want to build on that success with our larger customers. So we've seen, if you like, the enterprise health indicators, such as the one I mentioned around customer's above 100K growing at a faster rate than the customers that we have below that. So we will continue our efforts in that space. And our sales team is really focused on enterprise customers and being able to grow that base. And we have a significant percentage of reps who we hired within the back half of last year who will be ramping through the first two quarters. And we expect to see them contributing to our overall growth in ARR, particularly in the back half of the year. Along with that, in terms of our commercial motion, we've taken another look at how can we take advantage of some of the recovery we've seen in the commercial, the SMB space in particular. And so we have a renewed digital first experience that we're delivering there. We've had packaging that now makes a lot of the products accessible even to customers, who are in that SMB space so that they can get broader use of the platform at a reasonable price. So we anticipate being able to use that motion to, in fact, also contribute to our growth, and that will ramp through the year as well.

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Vindalem Bora
Analyst, JP Morgan

Just to be clear, for the guidance that you provided, are you assuming a similar macro than what you have seen?

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Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

We've taken what I would call like a prudent view. Obviously, you can never anticipate everything. And even within the current environment, we've tried to sort of model impacts and try and understand everything. how things could play out. They're not always very clear for software and technology, as you would know, in terms of how that will play out. But we have tried to indeed factor in a view that there's some things that we can control and our focus is on what can we control and how can we drive performance through those elements.

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Vindalem Bora
Analyst, JP Morgan

Thank you very much.

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Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

Thanks, Pendulum.

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Josh
Moderator

Thank you. And next we'll hear from Nick Altman with Scotiabank. Nick, please join us.

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Nick Altman
Analyst, Scotiabank

Welcome. Hey, awesome. Thank you. I wanted to go back to Sanjay's question around 30% of ARR exiting the year being outside of incident management. When we think about the ARR sort of framework or the color you provided and we look at the 2025 ARR mix, I think it implies like a little bit over 60% of the net new ARR in the year was from outside of incident management. And so when you think about this year's guide and kind of what you're baking in for net new ARR, how should the mix, you know, look? in 2026 versus this year is maybe kind of unpack the the assumptions around incident management versus non-incident management as it pertains to a net new error.

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

And before Howard jumps in on guidance, I just want to make a clarifying point. One of the areas that we see driving growth from a customer perspective is the customer applying PagerDuty's kind of traditional incident management solution to new, call it horizontal use cases. And probably the best example is the AI-centric operations that they now are trying to manage. They're managing RAG models, LLMs, their own agents. their own AI-driven apps. And what you're seeing through that is a ton of increased complexity. And so that, for instance, is an example of you might still use our core incident management solution, but it's going to drive net new usage because it's a different use case than a traditional use case. The same thing is true for security operations. We have a lot of security teams that leverage our products and services for something that would be considered outside of the core of technology-generated incident management. And as we adopt more of a blended consumption and seat-based or platform usage model, we'll start to get some of the benefit of the value that we create through those new horizontal use cases. And so I just want to be clear that just because incident management is core and we're selling new products and services on top of it, we also still have the opportunity to grow incident management through applying that same technology to different problems across the organization. So sorry, Howard, go ahead.

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Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

Yeah, well, you started with exactly what I was going to say around the use cases. So, yeah, and I think that's an important part, Nick, because as we've thought about this in terms of the sales team's area of focus, certainly being able to drive those new use cases that utilize a full operations management approach, which includes incident management, is going to be key. If we just look back over the last couple of quarters, we've consistently seen More than 40% of the incremental error in the quarter coming from AIOps automation and customer service ops offerings. So when we've looked into this next year, we're expecting that that trend will continue, that it will still continue to be a strong contributor to the incremental piece. And as we factor in newer offerings like PD Advance, which is small today, that will start taking, will become an additive share to that piece outside of incident management. And as we move into monetizing agentic AI, that will, again, will probably add a mix into what would be incident management today.

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Nick Altman
Analyst, Scotiabank

OK, no, that's super helpful. And then just just the clarification question. Appreciate the color on ARR this year. If we look at the net new ARR seasonality for 2025 versus 2024 is a little bit different. Obviously, there's some of the go-to-market stuff you mentioned. Macro is still a little bit cautious. But anything else we should be keeping in mind as we look at sort of the net new ARR seasonality for 2026 and maybe call out if there's any anomalies, deal slippage, et cetera, that maybe skew the seasonality in 2025? Thanks.

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Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

Yeah, sure. So we would expect... the seasonality to follow a pattern. This last year, it was kind of roughly equal each quarter. My expectation is that it'll probably ramp gradually through the year as we move through the end of the year, given some of the changes that we've made in terms of the sales team. So that will mean that we'll start to see that increase gradually through the year.

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Nick Altman
Analyst, Scotiabank

Thank you.

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Josh
Moderator

And one last call to our panelists to raise their hands in the Zoom platform to be cued for any remaining questions. We do have another from Jeff Van Ree at Craig Hallam. Jeff, go ahead.

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Jeff Van Ree
Analyst, Craig Hallam

Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Hey, guys, good to see you. Sorry about the light. You're catching sunset just perfectly behind me here, so be it. Just a few for you. Maybe, Howard, just on the pipeline, I think you commented last quarter the pipeline was up 50% year-over-year. Just any update on the state of the pipeline here?

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Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

Yeah, so we've entered this year with strong pipeline because I factored in the pipeline for the full year against the full year guidance range that we have provided. The Q1 pipeline that we started the quarter with was higher than what we had the year before. We've got the team to focus a lot more on quality of pipeline and how do we improve pipeline velocity so that you don't see this pattern of deals moving just from one quarter to the next. So certainly, you know, we're in a good place. But my perspective, of course, is that sales teams need to keep on building pipeline. Marketing teams need to keep on contributing to that pipeline. And hence our focus even in bringing some of our events like PD on tour or page on tour to earlier in the year so that we can actually leverage some of that earlier creation of pipeline in the year to benefit this fiscal.

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Jeff Van Ree
Analyst, Craig Hallam

Yeah. Is the, Jen, is the intensified focus on all the sales change? I guess two questions. More a result of your dissatisfaction with the lead gen side or with the close rates and the way you're managing cycles as they go through? And then maybe just kind of along the lines of that question, just kind of a soft observation, but it seemed last year, mid-year, you were a little more satisfied with the execution in terms of how you were addressing the move to selling to procurement and the CFO type sale. And it seems now there's less satisfaction. So maybe just kind of take those two on, if you would.

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

I'm never satisfied. There's always an opportunity for us to continue to improve our execution. What I would say, if you look at our cohort over 100K and our cohort spending more than a million dollars, those are examples of where we're executing very well, where we're delivering higher retention rates, we're delivering higher growth rates, we're building more strategic relationships, they're multi-product platform, multi-year relationships. And what I want to see is a scale that across the entire install base in an accelerated way and in a very efficient way. And, you know, what we've found is it works when we have the right profile of rep. It works when we're driving the right level of rigor and inspection around account engagement, around pipeline quality and pipeline conversion. And we've just really got to standardize that across the broader sales assist organization. We can't execute well in pockets, right? So that is part of it. I'm really proud of the effort that our go-to-market organization undertakes because this isn't an easy transition. We operated one way really successfully for a long time. I mean, most people would have said our flywheel and the land and expand motion was a strength and it's still a strength in our lower down market in SMB and VSB where we can manage that almost in an automated way from a digital perspective. But as our customers see us as a more strategic vendor, we have to be consistent in the way we engage, in the way we build networks across multiple personas, in the way we deliver and deploy our products and services, and in the way we ensure our customers know they've realized value. I think there are going to continue to be opportunities for us to evolve our pricing to better align our pricing with the value we actually demonstrate and deliver for our customers. And that's something that we're working on. But as we've improved, as I mentioned, the rep profile and brought in leaders who are experienced in an enterprise platform kind of top-down motion, we're seeing really promising results. So it's about scaling that. And it's about doing it with a lot of efficiency and an eye on productivity. And that's what we're going to be laser-focused on.

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Jeff Van Ree
Analyst, Craig Hallam

Yeah. Yeah. Understood. And congrats on the efficiency. I mean, the profitability improvements in the free cash flow for the year, you know, real nice improvement prior here. Just one last, if I could, Howard, on the I guess on the S&B commercial side, just I don't I want to make sure I heard you right. Is that viewed to be a growth and not an engine, but it will grow in this fiscal year? Is that the assumption?

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Howard
CFO, PagerDuty

That is the assumption. If you recall, Jeff, we went through a period where we'd seen negative growth year over year in that segment, like for four consecutive quarters. And we've started to see like modest recovery in that space. And we expect that to continue. It's not going to be the major contributor to our growth this next year. Clearly, enterprise is where we focused. But we did think there was an opportunity to revisit that. how we were managing that segment to try and get more out of that segment, particularly since a lot of that segment for us is tech startups. And with the AI enthusiasm, there are a lot of AI startups who are starting to become customers of us in that segment. And we'll grow into be larger customers and hopefully enterprise customers one day too.

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Jeff Van Ree
Analyst, Craig Hallam

Great, great. Well, thanks for taking the questions and for tolerating that. Thanks so much.

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

See you guys. Thank you.

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Josh
Moderator

Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, all of our panelists for joining. And Howard and Jennifer, we'll wrap up here. And Jen, turning over to you for any final remarks.

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Jennifer
CEO, PagerDuty

Thanks, Josh. Well, thank you all once again for joining us today. Our strategic focus on innovation with our strengthening leadership team and enhanced go-to-market motion positions us well for future growth. Our momentum of our tenured enterprise field reps demonstrates the compelling value of our platform, particularly in our large and strategic enterprise customers. We remain committed to executing our strategy while building on the strong foundation of customer success, employee dedication, and partner collaboration and doing it effectively and efficiently. I sincerely appreciate your continued engagement as we advance our mission to revolutionize digital operations. Thank you and have a great day.

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