Piedmont Office Realty Trust Inc

Please stand by, we are about to begin. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining today's Piedmont Office Realty Trust Inc second quarter 2020 earnings call. All phone lines are in a listen-only mode, but after today's prepared remarks, you will be given the opportunity to ask questions. To get us started, I am pleased to turn the floor over to Eddie Gilbert. Mr. Gilbert, good morning.

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. We thank you for joining us today for Piedmont's second quarter 2020 earnings conference call. Last night, we filed our form 10-Q and an 8-K that includes our earnings release and our unaudited supplemental information for the second quarter. All this information is available on our website at piedmontREIT.com under the investor relations section. During this call, we'll refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures such as FFO, core FFO, AFFO, same store NOI. The definitions and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures are contained in the earnings release and in the supplemental financial information. On today's call, the company's prepared remarks and answers to your questions will contain forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements address matters which are subject to risks and uncertainties, and therefore, actual results may differ from those we anticipate and discuss today. The risks and uncertainties of these forward-looking statements are discussed in detail in our press release as well as our SEC filings. We encourage everyone to review the more detailed discussion related to risks associated with forward-looking statements in our SEC filings. Examples of forward-looking statements include those related to Piedmont's future revenues, operating income, dividends and financial guidance, future leasing and investment activity, and an important factor for today's call is the potential adverse effects associated with the COVID-19 pandemic on the company's financial and operational results. The extent to which COVID-19 pandemic impacts us and our customers will depend on future developments, which are highly uncertain and cannot be predicted with confidence, including the depth, duration and severity of the pandemic and the related economic disruption. You should not place any undue reliance on any of the forward-looking statements and these statements speak only of the date they are made. At this time, our President and Chief Executive Officer, Brent Smith, will provide some opening comments and discuss our second quarter results and accomplishments. Brent?

Thank you, Eddie, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate all of you taking the time to join us today for Piedmont's second quarter earnings call. In summary, our financial results for the quarter were strong, and we made significant progress on a number of our strategic objectives. Of note, we completed a strategic asset recycling transaction at the end of the quarter, and we executed some important leasing, all despite the unprecedented disruption from the coronavirus pandemic on both the national and global economies, which had operational and financial consequences for our tenants and Piedmont. In light of the challenging economic environment, we are very fortunate that most of our tenants are investment grade quality and subject to long term leases. with an approximately six year weighted average lease term remaining and with very low expirations over the next two years. The strength of our tenant base is demonstrated in the fact that we collected approximately 99% of the cash rents due for the second quarter of 2020 based on current contractual lease terms. However, I would point out that this collection data is net of approximately 3.6 million of second quarter cash rents that have been deferred. We have entered into lease modification agreements with approximately 50 of our tenants as a result of the pandemic. These agreements typically deferred an average of three months of rent to be paid later in 2020 or in some cases in 2021 with interest. Most of these workout agreements are with our retail tenants that represent approximately 1% of our annual revenues. More importantly, During the second quarter, we continue to partner with our tenants to refine our operational procedures, cleaning standards and health protocols in all of our buildings to protect the safety and well-being of all those working at or visiting Piedmont properties. This partnership, including our publishing a return to work tenant guide, outlining building specific information on operational changes such as elevator spacing, common area queuing and etiquette, janitorial schedules, Enhanced Maintenance and Engineering Programs, and Improved Security Protocols. We have also installed a comprehensive signage program and hand sanitizing dispensers throughout all our buildings, garages, and amenity areas, and we have installed touchless equipment and automated doors in most common areas and pathways. With all our buildings remaining open and fully operational these past few months, I could not be more proud of the hard work put forth by my Piedmont colleagues to ensure essential businesses and government agencies could continue to operate during these challenging times. I want to particularly recognize our property management personnel who have worked compassionately with our more than 1,000 tenants while at the same time exercising vigilant financial stewardship for our stockholders. Turning now to other key events in the second quarter. Obviously one of the highlights was the sale of 1901 Market Street, our only asset in Philadelphia. The gross sales price was approximately $360 million or $450 per square foot at a 5-4 cash cap rate, resulting in an approximately $182 million net book gain. In addition to the very attractive economic terms, this transaction was also strategic and that it allowed us to exit the market and continue our creative asset recycling program by successfully structuring the disposition transaction as part of a 1031 exchange with the Dallas Galleria Office Towers, which we acquired during the first quarter of this year at an approximately 250 basis points greater cap rate. Consequently, no special distribution of the significant gain from this disposition will be required. I would note that the sale of the 100% lease 801,000 square foot Philadelphia property did marginally impact our reported occupancy during the quarter, lowering our overall lease percentage by 1% to approximately 89%. As a result of this transaction, 96% of our annualized lease revenue is now generated by properties located in our seven core operating markets. Currently, no other significant developments, acquisitions, or dispositions are underway. We continue to examine Piedmont's business strategy in the context of both the near-term health crisis, as well as implications on the office sector beyond the vaccine. We believe the pandemic has accelerated two main themes, which we have been incorporating into our portfolio strategy for several years. Specifically, millennial family formation, generating population migration to the suburbs, and corporations relocating to lower cost, pro-business cities that offer world-class education centers and highly integrated multimodal transportation infrastructure. Today, we have a uniquely positioned portfolio of 57 Class A office properties comprising 17.2 million square feet, primarily concentrated around urban infill and suburban dense mixed-use environments, or what we call hub-urban. Offering our customers the real estate required to attract and retain a high caliber professional workforce, including a strong amenity base, walkability, convenient access to transportation, and closer proximity to workforce and executive housing. We were already starting to witness the impact of these population migration trends and data collected before the pandemic. Specifically, for 2019, Cushman and Wakefield reported that nearly 70% of the Class A office absorption occurred in the suburbs. With shorter commute times and walkable amenities that allow employees to accomplish more in their day than just work, employers are more and more acknowledging these locations offer as compelling a live-work-play environment as many urban cores. We think the target millennial workforce will drive office space absorption in suburban nodes as well as in lower cost, higher quality of life markets. And with approximately half of the Piedmont portfolio located in the Sunbelt and an additional approximately 20% located in the concentrated knowledge centers of Boston and Northern Virginia, we are uniquely positioned to capture incremental office space demand spurred on by this burgeoning demographic shift in America. Furthermore, our concentrated sub-market position garnering significant market share in areas like Orlando's Lake Mary, Burlington and Boston, Atlanta's Northwest Submarket, Dallas's Lower North Tollway, and Washington's RV Corridor give us the ability to leverage our scale and market depth to meet the flexibility today's office users demand. Transitioning to leasing activity, the pandemic did have an impact on this area of the business. with a new tenant leasing pipeline virtually coming to a halt during the second quarter due to travel and shelter in place restrictions. However, we did execute 271,000 square feet of leasing transactions during the quarter, almost entirely renewal activity with its most significant lease executed being Brother International's renewal of their approximately 102,000 square foot lease at 200 Bridgewater Crossing in Bridgewater, New Jersey. A listing of all leases greater than 10,000 square feet completed during the quarter is included in the supplemental financial information that was filed last night for your further review. On a year-to-date basis, executed leases will have a starting cash roll-up of 4.5% and accrual-based roll-up of almost 12%. Looking ahead, we are encouraged by the amount of leasing interest that has begun to reemerge, and we're particularly heartened by the activity we're seeing in Dallas, Atlanta, Washington D.C. and the Boston Submarkets. We continue to make progress on the one large upcoming renewal representing 1% or more of our annualized lease revenue, the City of New York's 313,000 square feet at 660 Broad Street that is currently in holdover. While the governmental leases are typically slow to complete, understandably the city's contracting personnel have been preoccupied with more pressing issues during the pandemic. That said, communications have been ongoing and productive, and we expect to complete a long-term renewal with the city by the end of the calendar year 2021. Other than this one renewal, we have no other significant expirations until 2022. In conclusion, in light of the pandemic, we feel that we are well positioned to withstand the effects of the economic slowdown associated with COVID-19 and in good financial position to take advantage of growth opportunities should they present themselves. I want to also add, considering the public discussion around surrounding equality in our country, I want to take this opportunity to reiterate that all of us at Piedmont will continue to support the nonviolent efforts to eliminate prejudice and discrimination wherever it exists. We proudly joined other Georgia employers this past quarter in urging our legislature's passage of a new hate crimes bill in our state. Piedmont is committed to demonstrating to each other and our communities the compassion, kindness, and strength required to bring about positive and lasting change. With that, I, along with the rest of the senior management team, will be available to address any questions you have after Bobby walks us through the financial highlights of the quarter and outlook for the rest of 2020. Bobby?

Thanks, Brett. While I'll discuss some of our financial highlights for the quarter, I encourage you to please review the earnings release and supplemental financial information which were filed last night for more complete details. For the second quarter of 2020, we reported 49 cents per diluted share of Core FFO, a 14% increase compared to the second quarter of 2019, reflecting rental rate growth throughout the portfolio and accretive capital recycling activity and a number of other members of the Board of Directors who have worked with us since the second quarter of last year. AFFO was approximately $45 million for the second quarter, well in excess of our second quarter dividend. And same-store NOI was up approximately 2% on a cash basis and up over 5% on an accrual basis for the second quarter of 2020 before deducting an approximate $5 million general reserve. 6.5 million dollars during the second quarter of 2020 when compared to the same period in 2019. This decrease is due to lower accruals for stock-based compensation in the current year and 3.2 million of retirement expenses included in 2019's results related to the senior management transition that occurred on June 30th of 2019. Turning to the balance sheet, our average net debt to core EBITDA ratio for the second quarter of 2020 was slightly elevated at 6.2 times because of the increased balance on the company's line of credit due to the purchase of the Dallas Galleria office towers during the first quarter of 2020. This metric is anticipated to return to a more normalized range of around 5.6 times in the third quarter benefiting from a full quarter's impact of the sale of 1901 Market Street and the resulting pay down of debt. Our debt to gross asset ratio was approximately 34% at the end of the quarter. As the duration and severity of the COVID-19 pandemic and the longer term consequences on the economy and on our tenants continue to be unknown, we are not providing guidance for 2020 currently. Notwithstanding this economic backdrop, Piedmont has a strong diversified tenant base, a majority of which is investment grade quality. Additionally, Piedmont has a prudent balance sheet that we've discussed with excellent liquidity, including approximately $30 million in cash and the full availability of our $500 million line of credit at June 30th, with no debt maturities until late 2021. Despite the widespread impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic from the global economy, we currently anticipate that our overall lease percentage and expected 2020 financial performance will be only modestly impacted by the pandemic. While not providing guidance, we want to offer some additional information regarding performance year to date. and our current expectations for how the pandemic could impact our financial performance for the year when compared to the previous year and to the original expectations that we had for 2020. First, as Brent indicated, new tenant leasing activity slowed during the second quarter. Although new tenant prospects have begun to increase, particularly in our Sunbelt markets, Washington D.C. and Boston, We believe this slowing new tenant leasing trend will continue throughout the third quarter, likely pushing out new tenant leasing goals several months, which will modestly lower our originally anticipated accrual NOI for 2020 by approximately $5 million and lower our estimated year-end lease percentage. Also, much of Piedmont's typical transient parking income for the third quarter of 2020 will not occur It will be similar to the second quarter's results. NOI from transient parking is estimated to be lower by approximately $2 million for the year. Further, with respect to retail tenant income, which is about 1% of the company's total 2020 revenues, overall retail NOI expectations are estimated to decline by approximately $2 million on an accrual basis for the year. As I just mentioned, the company took an additional charge this quarter of approximately $1.8 million against rental revenue in recognition of the increase in rental collectability risk. This charge is a specific reserve against individual accounts. Also, as a precautionary measure, we established an approximately $5 million general reserve, or roughly 1% of our annualized lease revenues, for potential future losses. Offsetting these reductions in earnings are approximately $5 million of interest expense savings due to lower LIBOR and treasury rates than we originally budgeted for the year, and approximately $1 to $2 million of operating cost savings associated with the landlord portion of various operating expenses such as utilities and janitorial costs due to lower active utilization of the properties. These identified impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic equate to approximately $10 to $12 million of identified NOI reductions from our original expectations for the year, half of which is a prudent estimated general reserve provision. And despite this, we will still be outperforming our 2019 results. I will note the estimated effects of COVID-19 on the company's financial performance are based upon the premise that the economic impacts from the pandemic will subside during the fourth quarter of 2020. We will reevaluate providing guidance once the longer-term consequences of the pandemic on the economy and on our tenant base are known or at least a minimum can be more thoroughly considered. With that, I'll now ask our operator to provide our listeners with instructions on how they can submit their questions. will attempt to answer all of your questions now or will make appropriate later public disclosure if necessary. Operator?

Gentlemen, thank you for your remarks. And to our audience joining today, if you would like to ask a live question, simply press star and one on your telephone keypad. Pressing star and one will place your line into a queue and we will take your questions one at a time. Also, a friendly reminder that if you're joining us this morning on a speakerphone, Please return to your handset prior to pressing star and 1 to be certain that your signal does reach our equipment. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, that is star and 1 if you'd like to ask a question. We'll hear first from Anthony Paglione with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Okay, thank you. I guess the first question is for Bobby just to maybe help with a little bit of a walk on the NOI and some of these write-offs and reserves. So if we think about what you recorded for 2Q, and think about rolling that into 3Q. I want to make sure I understand this. So the $1.8 million, that effectively took either a tenant or a variety of tenants to cash-based recognition, it would seem. And so we can, I guess, make an assumption as to what happens from here. But then the $5 million, is that just a general straight line write-off where we add that back as we start to roll into 3Q? No.

Tommy, thanks for the question, and let me see if I can address it. First, let me sort of give you a little background. We've had very little losses for the last, as long as I've been here, maybe a few thousand dollars a year related to any sort of bad debt, but certainly we're living in a period of time that's very different right now, and so for the second quarter, our tenant reserves consisted of really two components. You mentioned the first one. It's a specific reserve of $1.8 million, and that is recorded, as you've indicated, against individual tenant accounts. That was done after a thorough review of all of our tenant billings, and it includes related balance sheet accounts. I think this is a piece many people don't realize. It includes the right office trade line rent receivables and tangibles, and yes, it does take it to a cash basis. There was a second component that we have typically never done that was included in the second quarter this year. And I'll tell you what was driving that. Obviously, we don't know fully all the impacts of the pandemic on the balances that we have on our balance sheet. That includes straight line rents again and intangibles as it relates to every tenant. That's including those tenants that are currently are presently current on their payables, and those tenants that have been granted deferrals. So I think the uncertainty that's there is what's the impact that the pandemic's gonna have in due duration on all of these tenants, and nobody knows that. And I will tell you this, after a lot of discussion, we believe it's prudent to establish, and I would say an act with second general reserve for these potential and yet unidentified losses. The question is, you know, how do you get there when you don't have a historical perspective on how do you estimate this? In our particular case, we have a very clear trend of 99% of our tenants have been paying their billed receivables. Therefore, we just simply reported a 1% reserve of this annualized lease Thank you. Thank you. on our balance sheet are known and have been identified at this time, and I think that's true for anyone. Does that address your question, Tony?

Yeah, I think that's really helpful context in terms of how you got there and all, just from like a short-term, just quarter-to-quarter basis. If nothing really happened in the third quarter, you wouldn't – That $5 million comes back, right? Like you've reserved for it already. And so if there were some incremental losses in, say, the third quarter, you could tap into that $5 million and use some of it, I guess. And so in that regard, like when we think about the run rate, we would just add the $5 million back as we roll into 3Q.

That's absolutely correct. Any unused balance will come back to benefits.

Okay. Got it. and then on WeWork in Orlando as they kind of push out the completion of that. Does it change when actual cash rent is due on that space or is the cash rent due whenever the lease actually commences and so that gets pushed out too?

Hi, Tony. Appreciate you taking the time with us today. This is Brent. So I guess on the topic of WeWork, first I'd like to say that they are current on all their rental obligations, and they continue to be a great performing tenant. On the specific location in Orlando, as we have noted previously, they have pushed back construction given some of the issues, first initially around fire code and now around COVID. But we do still believe that that will be a 2021 commencement. As we've noted before, we did not include any of that income in our 2020 numbers. but when it comes to specifics in the lease, we don't like to get too much in detail but there is a firm date in which rent payments will have to begin and so we feel like we're protected in that just continuing to get kicked further and further out.

Okay, got it. And this last question on DC just generally where you have a bit more vacancy and I know things are slow but is it you know Is it a matter of you need a certain size tenant and that's not where the market is or the traffic's just not there? I'm just wondering if you can give some color on just the environment there and prospects for addressing some of that that you can say.

Yes, so I guess as I would point out, you know, we really headed into the year with really limited role, almost no role in D.C. for the next, call it, four or five years. We had a really great runway, and I would also say probably the best leasing pipeline we've seen there in probably three years from a number of different, whether it be government, defense, and or technology-related, as we were starting to see some of the benefit of the Amazon, if you will. As we headed into the pandemic, I'd say DC as a market held up actually the pipeline of activity, the best out of all of our markets. And we do hope to have Good news to share on that front as we kind of head through the rest of the year. And I think that'll prove that durability of that market will prove out. And so as we've now alluded to in the prepared remarks, you know, we started to see the pipeline build across the portfolio. DC is one of those markets that it wasn't beat up as bad and the pipeline is also starting to grow a little bit more in the RV corridor than the district. in that front. And again, that's generally been contractor and technology related. So we are seeing a pickup in activity there, and I think we're hopeful that it will become as robust as it was pre Pre-COVID crisis where we had a number of kind of 15,000 square foot deals that we thought we had a really good chance of landing. So I'd say it's picking back up, not quite as much as our Atlanta and Dallas markets where we're seeing really good activity, but still starting to rebuild that pipeline. And I'd say we're still constructive, particularly in our RV positions.

Great. Thank you for the comment.

Thank you, Anthony. Next, we'll hear from Dave Rogers at Baird.

Yeah, good morning, everybody. Brent, I think in the comments that you'd made earlier in the press release, you talked about walkable amenities, non-public transit-oriented locations really starting to see a pickup in demand. And I think you guys also quoted about 30% utilization of office overall kind of back up. from where it had been. I'm wondering if you can give us maybe some anecdotal information on these kind of walkable and non-public transit-oriented assets. That's what you own, obviously, but the demand that you're starting to see, the conversations you're having, is that from tenants wanting to leave, you know, a bucket, for instance, is that from tenants that are looking to establish new presence in the suburbs and closer to the employee base? Any color that you can have, and I realize it's early, would be really helpful, though.

Yeah, Dave, I appreciate you taking the time to join us this morning. I think as we think about it and see some of the activity around demand, we noted before really seeing good activity in Dallas and Atlanta. and DC to some extent. I think when it comes to this concept of the hub and spoke, which we've heard discussed a lot, there's a thesis that it may be within market and a firm takes a location, we'll use Atlanta as an example, and Midtown. You know, they've had a millennial workforce. They're used to that young kind of walk, sorry, a newer walkable urban environment with mixed use. That age cohort, as we've seen, is now at the precipice of family formation. Their children are starting to go to school. The first millennials are really now reaching 40, and that is driving a suburban push, but also a push out of California and the Northeast to these lower cost markets, a little bit of higher quality life. You layer on the effects of salt, which we think will continue to drive a secular shift in the American population. and many more. Within a market, think about the tub and spoke concept and maybe they have a location in Atlanta and they decide to take a location in the Galleria because it is a dense, walkable environment to the battery, to a Braves game, and what all the lunch and dinner options that are available at the base of that building. So they're experienced and used to this urban core, and they want to replicate that experience in the suburbs, drive to their office, and be able to accomplish a lot more within their day than they just do going to the office, whether it be kind of everyday errands, Thank you for joining us. and we are seeing the millennials now being the largest buyers of homes and that is now in the suburbs. So we think all those trends play to that location as I mentioned in my remarks, not just the Atlanta Galleria but Burlington and Boston, Lake Marion, Orlando, our positions in the lower tollway there in Dallas As well as, you know, while they are in urban cores like in Orlando and Minneapolis, our towers there, we still have two per thousand parking and it is very much a car driven market, not reliant on mass transit. And as we talk to a lot of our tenants, that's been their focus or concern is I feel comfortable once I get to the office, but getting to the office, particularly when you're reliant 100% on mass transit has been a problem. So in these markets like Orlando and Minneapolis, before really a lot of the office population left, we actually saw an uptick in parking as more and more of the individuals who would have normally taken mass transit were parking now in the CBD. So we think all of this continues to add to a dynamic that makes these walkable hubbards, if you've heard me use that term, really where we think the office market is going to see the greatest demand in the near and medium term.

And maybe just to follow up on that point, so real quick on that point, is it more of a, I guess a long-term trend? I guess I'm trying to gauge maybe how much of that's been driven by COVID and how much of this resume activity that you're seeing is COVID-related versus just the continuation of the long-term trend.

I think it's a continuation of the long-term trend. What may be more COVID-related or accelerated, and I meant to add this point back from my prior remark, is on this hub-and-spoke concept, we're not seeing it materialize within a market yet. I think tenants are still saying if I'm in Midtown right now, Thank you for joining us. spoke, and maybe like a New York or a San Francisco being the hub, more so than within market right now. And I'll keep you abreast if we start to see that within market. But right now, I'd say it's more driving from some of these higher cost markets to some of our Sunbelt markets.

Okay, great. Second question for me on the New York City negotiations. I realize they're still going on, but is there a risk or have there been any changes in scope in terms of the overall size of the requirement or how they might be moving different groups into that building?

You know, as we mentioned in our remarks, the pandemic has delayed things pretty considerably. And, you know, like the New York State, I expect we'll do a shorter-term renewal more near-term and do the longer-term lease, as I mentioned, towards the latter part of next year. It is still a very unique building and is well-suited for the agencies that occupy it, so we feel very good about keeping their, quote-unquote, eyes on the prize and getting a lease done and over at the goal line. The terms really still are generally in line with what we've previously shared overall from an economic standpoint. I think right now they're still trying to decide what is the ultimate agency group that will reside in the building, and that is being reviewed, and so we continue to make progress overall. But again, no material change in what we've previously shared. I would add that means a meaningful cash roll-up. to market, which right now was generally in line with where their holdover rate is. And of course, that gap roll-up that will be really significant is not going to be realized, unfortunately, though, until that long-term deal is signed. But again, everything still proceeds as you would expect it, given a government agency in the middle of a national crisis.

Great. Thank you for that. Last for me, Bobby. You talked about $10 to $12 million NOI impact for the full year relative to initial guidance, and I realize you're not giving guidance, but you had said that all of this assumes a 4Q20 kind of rebound in activity and kind of the opening of the economy. What's still at risk if that doesn't happen? Is it really just parking at this point, maybe offset by some OPEX costs? How do you look at 4Q since that was your expectation for an opening?

If you look at the guidance, Dave, that we've provided and we've indicated it was $10 to $12 million impact, half of that was related to the bad debt charges that all ran through as a reserve here in the second quarter. Really, the other significant item is new leasing. That's where you see the impact of COVID really taking its effect. Not executing those new leases delays the commencement of those leases and revenue recognition. So you really have two major factors. First, the reserve charge in the second quarter, and then the impact late in this year that comes from the delayed leasing. Again, the other stuff, as you've indicated, largely offsets each other. The parking, the retail offset biopics, savings, and G&A savings.

Yeah, I think that's exactly in lines with what you described, Dave. We've pushed leasing out, and it will not benefit this year. It'll be a 2021 impact, and of course, we won't give guidance on 2021 until January.

All right. Anything further, Mr. Rogerson?

No, that's great. Thank you.

Thank you for your questions today, sir. And a reminder to our phone audience, please return to your handset prior to pressing star and one if you are joining on a speakerphone. Ladies and gentlemen, that is star and one if you would like to ask a question. We'll move next to Mr. Michael Lewis at SunTrust.

Great. Thank you. I know this is a tough question to answer now about asset pricing when there's not a lot going on. But I wanted to ask the question first. about particularly between core stabilized assets that you might be selling and then the types of assets that you might still be willing to buy. So maybe it's a longer-term question about what kind of risks you're willing to take at this point, and then if maybe those spreads widen out even further, maybe that's helpful if you are willing to take on some of those leasing risks and others that you've done in the past.

Yeah. Hi, Michael. This is Brent. Appreciate you taking the time and joining us today. You know, we have been very effective at continuing to recycle capital prior to the pandemic. Obviously, given the slowdown in the capital markets, that's going to be a little muted here in more near term. But we still feel like we've got a nice recovery. I'm very happy we're 96% now in our core markets and it's just regular way recycling and continuing to enhance what we have within the markets. and so we've got a number of candidates that we think we could push into the market that are well leased, long term, good credit and that could be sold. We could also get creative and look at an opportunity to sell something that was You know, maybe really we felt was long-term lease, high credit, and doesn't require, you know, a significant mortgage, or if it does, it's easy to put onto the asset. So those would be what we think we could sell. In terms of the buys and taking more risk, I think we view it as a neat time to be patient. If it's a logical, strategic bolt-on, you'd see us do it. But really, I find it's an opportunity to maybe find something that is very high quality but might have a value-add component to it. So in some regards, it's risky because it has that value-add, but we think it's of such high quality that it fits well within our pipeline and upgrades the overall portfolio. I don't see anything right now in the pipeline that fits that. And again, we'll be patient. We're fortunate to have $30 million of cash in the balance sheet and the full line of credit available. We're talking to various parties as well. Given the sense that disruption may be coming, whether it be other groups, if there were a larger opportunity that we could take down something with and or get creative if we needed to raise additional capital quickly but we felt like our stock price might not afford that so we're quote-unquote being creative about building a war chest but you're going to continue to see us leverage that kind of 200 basis points spread between the buys and the sells for the foreseeable future I just hope that that now that spread will garner us something that's of even higher quality than it would have before if that helps put it into context.

Yeah, that's great. And then my second question, I kind of circled three themes I wanted to ask you about. One was the hub and spoke, which you already gave good detail on and was helpful. The second, I wanted to ask if you've had any tenants suggest significant work from home where they might be reducing their space materially because they're shifting to, you know, they think they might do this long term. And then the third one was the opposite of that, I suppose, which would be, you know, the need to social distance. Are there any tenants that are coming to you and saying, you know, we need more space or we need to do this differently and kind of go the other way?

So I guess first on the absorption side and social distancing, we have seen a number of tenants who have either, we approach them and they occupy say 90% of a floor. There's a vacant suite and we go to them and say, wouldn't you like to control all the floor? Take the last remaining kind of portion of the floor, have your own bathrooms, et cetera, in your environment. We have seen a few of those. In addition, we've seen a number of tenants who anticipated pre-pandemic to downsize by say maybe 15, 20% and go 180 and renew on the full amount. So we have seen the social distancing effect lead to some absorption. On the significant work from home pulling tenancy out, on a few select situations where the tenancy was a pretty small tenant and could basically kind of pick up their things and not come back to the office, we've had maybe one or two of those instances with a 2,000-type square-foot tenant who basically said, I can't structure my business and pay for real estate anymore. I'm taking my entire company and everybody's working from home. But we've not really seen that widespread. And again, it's been a very limited number of cases. So for most part, for our type of tenancy, that work from home is now more of, I think, a situation where Every 10, 15 years, the concept of how an office is used to create that collaboration and culture is reevaluated and redesigned. It keeps a lot of people in the American economy going, construction and design, et cetera. And I think we're at the precipice of one of those situations where companies are now just trying to, they feel like they've stabilized the ship from the reaction of the pandemic, and now they're just starting to evaluate their real commercial real estate needs. and what that means for the future. I think you're going to continue to see them utilize roughly the same amount of space but reconfigure it overall. And so the work from home component will play into that but I think it will be offset by the densification and you're going to see offices really be more focused for that collaboration, teamwork and culture building components. The densification will still kind of offset that work from home. That's our view at least. Got it, thanks.

And with no further questions in the queue, I will turn it back to Mr. Brent Smith for any additional or closing remarks.

Thank you. Appreciate everyone giving us the time today. We look forward to continuing the dialogue. Hopefully we'll get a chance to meet many of you at May Read in November. But if we don't have a chance to connect, Again, wish everybody a great rest of the summer. Appreciate the time. Have a good day.