10/27/2020

speaker
Gary
Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Polaris third quarter 2020 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Richard Edwards, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Richard Edwards
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you, Gary, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our 2020 Third Quarter Earnings Call. A slide presentation is accessible at our website at ir.polaris.com, which has additional information for this morning's call. Scott Wine, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Mike Speetzen, our Chief Financial Officer, have remarks summarizing the quarter, and then we'll take some questions. During the call, we will be discussing various topics which should be considered forward-looking for the purposes of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results could differ materially from those projections in the forward-looking statements. You can refer to our 2019 10-K for additional details regarding these risks and uncertainties. All references to the third quarter 2020 actual results are reported on an adjusted non-GAAP basis unless otherwise noted. Please refer to our Reg G reconciliation schedules at the end of this presentation for the gap to non-gap adjustments. Now we'll turn it over to our CEO, Scott Wynne. Scott?

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Richard. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Nearly 10 months into this year that continues to present serious and surprising challenges, I remain inspired and impressed by the dedication and execution of this Polaris team. Their safety is always our number one priority. It is never compromised as we accelerate production to meet rising demand. We will mostly review the resulting financials this morning, but the combination of agility, teamwork, and creativity that is driving those numbers is much more noteworthy. Consumer interest in power sports stayed at record levels throughout the quarter, as our dealers continue to attract new customers. Winning the competitive battle now is as much about availability as it is innovation, so our emphasis is temporary shiflet from demand creation to demand fulfillment. All Polaris businesses are outperforming our internal expectations as our factories and supply chain ramp to replenish dealer inventories. The investments in talent and tools we made to execute factory choice and supply chain transformation are paying off, allowing us to manage, not fight, the several dozen suppliers that are still working to recover. In stark contrast to a year earlier, we ended the third quarter with total liquidity at an all-time high. Mike Speetzen and his team have dramatically improved our cash management capabilities, which is a nice boost to a business that historically generates a lot of cash. Between our strong year-to-date results and improving outlook for the fourth quarter, we are raising our full-year earnings per share guidance, which now sits above our original targets for 2020. Third quarter North American retail sales were up a healthy 15%. But our internal analysis suggests that it could have been double that if we'd been able to accelerate production faster. A good example is our boat business, which achieved 50-plus percent retail growth as they efficiently ramped production and out-shipped their competition. Availability hurt our off-road vehicle market share, which was down slightly, but motorcycles, boats, and snow each gained share in the quarter. Indian continues to outperform globally while posting record market share performance in North America. With our recently introduced model year 2021 vehicles and an exciting lineup still to come, extensive customer-focused brand building and improved factory output, I am confident that Steve Minetto and his team will get our off-road vehicle business back to gaining market share in the fourth quarter and the year ahead. Strong vehicle demand and overall ridership increases are supporting record sales for Polaris PG&A and improving growth and profitability at TAP. North American dealer inventory declined slightly sequentially, but 55% year over year, leading to off-road vehicle DSO at its lowest level in decades. The coordination amongst our production, logistics, and sales team to maximize retail sales in this constrained environment is impressive and constantly improving as we strive to reach targeted inventory levels. This close collaboration is one of many reasons we are enjoying record dealer sentiment scores, leading the composite ranking in more individual categories than any other OEM. We expect to begin replenishing dealer inventory in the fourth quarter and continuation teams. Not unexpectedly, some of our suppliers are not yet capable of meeting the same rapid demand spikes So Ken Fussell and his team are aggressively working to accelerate their output. The number of suppliers past due is almost three times the normal rate, and a moderately high number of those suppliers are limiting production. But we are tightly managing them to limit impact. The path to more normal production rhythm is very clear, with our Offroad Vehicle Build Plan ramping up nearly 50% year over year in the fourth quarter. With new and diverse customers driving the majority of our growth and expanding the categories they increasingly invite their friends and colleagues to the sport, we are encouraged by the potential persistence of overall demand strength. Polaris Adventures is evidence of this, with rides running at roughly twice the 2019 levels since May. While Polaris is not unique in benefiting from this new customer growth, the approach Pam Kermish and her team are taking to cultivate and engage them should extend our leadership position with these important demographics. I have probably opined enough on the partnership with Zero Motorcycles, but knowing the product plans and the opportunity we have to both disrupt the industry and earn our next billion dollars in electric vehicle sales significantly more quickly and enjoyably than the first, it is worth highlighting again this morning. When I asked Chris Musso to lead our electrification initiative a year ago, we had bold ambitions but no clear plan. He built the team, refined the strategy, and orchestrated the zero relationship that other OEMs had tried but failed to cultivate. With that foundation established, Chris has decided to leave Polaris at the end of November to return to Denver and McKenzie for an opportunity that is important for him and his family. We are a better company for his contributions to both electrification and off-road vehicles and wish him well in his next chapter. As our electrification efforts transition from strategy to execution, Mike Donahue, our Chief Technicolosser, will add that responsibility. Mike's leadership roles at Tesla, Bright Automotive, and other electric vehicle manufacturers, along with his experience with Alta Motors, provide him with the unique skill set necessary to achieve our goal of leading the power sports industry in electrification. I will now turn it over to our Chief Financial Officer, Mike Speetzen, who will update you on our financial results and plans.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Scott. Good morning, everyone. First, I want to echo Scott's enthusiasm for our third quarter results, which were nothing short of outstanding. The Polaris team rallied together to get product out the door as quickly and as safely as possible to meet ongoing strong consumer demand during the quarter. Third quarter sales were up 10% on a GAAP and adjusted basis versus the prior year. Shipments improved considerably across ORV, motorcycles, and boats. Third quarter earnings per share on a GAAP basis was $2.66. Adjusted earnings per share was $2.85, which was up 71% for the quarter, exceeding our expectations. This incredible performance was driven by a combination of revenue growth, positive product mix, lower promotional costs, and operating expense leverage during the quarter. Adjusted gross margins were up approximately 260 basis points year over year, primarily driven by lower promotion and floor plan financing costs driven by lower dealer inventory and the lack of a factory authorized clearance in the quarter. Improved absorption at our factories was muted by higher logistics costs associated with supply constraints. Operating expenses were down 4% in the quarter as we benefited from the continued postponement of non-essential expenditures along with the timing of expenses which pushed approximately $15 million of spend into the fourth quarter. Given the significant operating performance improvement, we have reversed many of the employee-related cost actions taken during the second quarter and have approved select strategic projects which will ramp up in the fourth quarter. Foreign exchange also had a positive impact on our quarterly results, primarily driven by the euro. From a segment reporting perspective, ORV, snowmobile, motorcycles, and boats all reported increased sales for the quarter, driven by strong demand. ORV slash snowmobile segment sales were up 12%, motorcycles were up 11%, and boats increased 30% during the third quarter. All segments benefited from lower promotional costs, which decreased considerably across the power sports industry, given high demand and the lack of product in the channel. Aside from motorcycles, all segments also experienced improved product mix during the quarter. ORV slash snow mix was driven by strong PG&A sales. Q3 motorcycle product mix was skewed more towards our lower margin midsize bikes. Global adjacent market sales were down 6% during the quarter as continued outperformance from Exim and Polaris Adventures was offset by lower sales in our commercial, government, and defense businesses. Given the pandemic's impact on government and commercial budgets this year, many capital expenditures, including vehicles, have either been postponed or canceled in 2020. However, commercial government and defense businesses remain poised to capitalize when capital budgets begin to reopen. Aftermarket sales were flat to last year, with TAP sales up 1% and other aftermarket sales down 1% during the quarter. Retail sales remains a bright spot for TAP, as sales at four-wheel parts retail stores were up 6% in the quarter. The TAP team continues to right-size the wholesale business for improved growth and profitability. The remaining aftermarket sales were down during the quarter as a result of low inventory availability. Our international sales were up 9% during the quarter, mostly driven by strong ORV, snow, motorcycle, and PG&A sales. About a quarter of the growth came from improved currency rates. And lastly, our parts, garments, and accessory sales increased a whopping 28% during the quarter, driven by strong retail demand, primarily for parts and accessories. Moving on to our guidance for 2020. Given stronger than anticipated performance in the third quarter, we have increased our total company sales growth guidance and now expect sales to increase versus 2019 in the 2% to 3% range for the year. You'll recall our previous segment sales guidance was flat to down 2% versus 2019. I'll cover the specifics by segment in a few minutes. We are significantly increasing our full-year adjusted earnings per share guidance for 2020 and now expect earnings to be in the range of $7.15 to $7.30 for diluted share in excess of our pre-COVID guidance levels. The increase is driven by higher volume, lower promotions and floor plan financing costs, improved foreign exchange rates, and operating expense management. These benefits are partially offset by manufacturing inefficiencies and higher logistics costs related to supply chain inefficiencies. Moving down the P&L, our previously issued guidance ranges remain unchanged as shown on the current slide with the exception of the additional leverage generated at the operating expense line. We continue to monitor our spending in the face of the ongoing pandemic while adding back select operating expenses based on our current performance and certain strategic projects. Foreign exchange also is expected to be better than previously anticipated for the year. While we haven't discussed tariffs in detail for some time, it's something we continue to closely monitor while aggressively pursuing ways to minimize their impact. Year-to-date, our tariff impact totaled approximately $45 million, lower than previously anticipated due to the receipt of additional exemptions and refunds, as well as our ongoing proactive mitigation efforts. We now expect tariff costs for the full year to total approximately $65 million, which is primarily the China 301 tariffs, Lists 1 through 4, a small amount of EU retaliatory tariff costs, all net of the refunds we received through the exemption process. While I'm not providing a view on 2021, I would remind you that our exemptions have either expired or will expire by the end of the year, and we'll provide an update at our earnings call in January. Lastly, as you do the math around the fourth quarter, keep in mind that while revenue is growing sequentially, the mix of shipments coupled with the timing of the promo favorability from Q3 negatively impacts the expected gross margin and, as I mentioned earlier, we deferred $15 million in strategic investments to the fourth quarter. Moving on to sales expectations by segment, all of our businesses are expected to generate improved sales and profitability compared to our previously issued guidance. The consumer-focused portion of our business continues to perform better than the B2B segments, but even the latter are seeing sequential improvement, albeit at a slower pace. Year-to-date third quarter cash operating cash flow finished at $676 million, up 55% over the same period last year, driven by lower working capital requirements and business growth. Given our year-to-date cash flow performance, we now expect full-year cash flow to be up in the mid-30% range compared to last year. Our bank leverage ratio, defined as total debt to EBITDA, improved sequentially to approximately 2.45 times. Our liquidity is strong, with $821 million of cash on hand at the end of the quarter and just under $700 million of available borrowing capacity on our revolver. Given continued uncertainty in the broader global economy, we will maintain flexibility with our capital for the remainder of the year. With that, I'll turn it back over to Scott for some final thoughts.

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Mike. We enter the final months of the year with a great team, improving production capability and comprehensively strong business momentum. Employee safety, as always, is our top priority. It is not lost on me that we are exactly one week away from a very consequential US election. We cannot control the outcome, but we will be prepared to manage and mitigate the potential impact. We are cautiously optimistic that consumer demand for power sports will remain healthy throughout 2021, and we have numerous plans and actions to help sustain that momentum. We will work with our dealers to maximize growth and share gains in 2021. Our short-term success is contingent upon our ability to manage our supply chain and accelerate production output, and I am very confident our team will do just that. While much of our focus is on the outperformance of our power sports portfolio, as Mike mentioned, improving trends at TAP, Exim, Goupil, Gem, and our other adjacent market businesses are encouraging. We have been deep in long-term planning the past few weeks, and the outlook for earnings growth in 2021 is quite good, and beyond that, significantly better. With that, I'll turn it over to Gary to open the line for questions.

speaker
Gary
Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please limit your questions to one and a single follow-up so we may get to as many questions as possible. Our first question comes from Greg Badishkanian with Wolf Research. Please go ahead. Great.

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Greg Badishkanian
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Thanks. Just a first clarification. When you said doubling the retail sales, I assume that's going from 15% to 30%. Is that what you meant?

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James Hardman
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Yes, Greg. You're good with math. Perfect.

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Greg Badishkanian
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something else. And then when you think about your promotional strategy, feedback on, you know, first the feedback on the factory authorized clearance. And then when you're thinking about future promotions, just given that inventory levels are low, you're trying to replenish the channel, but you also want to maybe stimulate some demand. How are you thinking about promotions going forward over the next few quarters?

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think you heard both Mike and I talk about the confidence we have and Steve Minetto and Pam Kermish and the team to manage the business appropriately. Certainly with inventories, as I referred to, at decade, multi-decade lows, DSO, you know, we're not, don't need to drive a lot of promotions. But, you know, whether it's the ag advantage or the military advantage, we're looking for ways to make sure that our brand is the most relevant and we're confident that Steve and the team can do that. They've got tremendous experience, great analytical tools, and you know we think we can overall prior to the pandemic even we had plans to be more efficient with our promo use and what's happened now is we've taken those plans that had us more efficient and taken advantage of lower inventory and dramatically lowered that but we think overall will be able to maintain a more efficient promo usage. Mike, do you want to add anything?

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

The only thing I'd add, Greg, is we've talked historically about the split between dealer and consumer facing, and I would tell you right now it's far more oriented towards the dealer and the dealer's team, salesman's best, things like that.

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Gary
Operator

Yeah, yeah, all right, makes sense.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, guys.

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Gary
Operator

The next question is from James Hardman with Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead.

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James Hardman
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Hey, good morning, guys. So first, Mike, I'm going to ask the boring question about tariffs, but it seems somewhat relevant here. You gave us that, I think it was a $65 million number that you're assuming for this year. What does that number look like if you didn't have any of those exclusions, which I think would be the same as asking what is the assumption in terms of the incremental headwind for next year? And I think you said that you expect earnings to grow even higher. factoring in that incremental headwind. And then my follow-up would just be, what's your level of confidence that given all the puts and takes that retail can grow next year?

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

So I think, James, from a tariff standpoint, we had originally guided the year that we thought refunds would be just over $10 million. They're about $25 million. So obviously that's a one-time item associated with the backward looking, so you can You can do the math relative to what that $65 million would look like. I think from a retail standpoint, the backdrop is, from my perspective, is very healthy. I think Steve and the team have done a lot of work. Obviously, the overall environment right now is favorable, but when you look at the fact that we're pulling in so many new customers, and we know one thing for sure, that those new customers tend to bring even more new customers in, and we continue to see that trend. You saw the chart we had in the deck today, and You know, the work that Pam and Steve and Mike Doherty are doing is really paying off. And I think that's going to provide momentum into next year, you know, regardless of what's going on in the backdrop on COVID and the broader economy.

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James Hardman
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

And just to clarify, Mike, so the 65, 25 of refunds, but there's also the exclusion benefit, right? Like I know sometimes we're counting this twice. There's a one-time benefit and sort of the ongoing benefit. Does that 65 go to 90 or does it go to something higher than that as I look to 2021 if nothing were to change?

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, well, I don't want to get into speculating. You know, I think you can do the math relative to the, you know, the overall refund impact. And, you know, we're still working through what the The volume is, you know, we did do some advanced buys to try and at least mitigate when the tariffs come back on. So there's a fair amount of complicated work that has to go into it. So I'd hate to put a number out there and then have to provide something new in January.

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James Hardman
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

But at the end of the day, you guys think that you can grow even including that incremental headwind that you're assuming sort of worst-case scenario right now?

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I mean, the thing you have to think about is, number one, you know, I mentioned it several times, we've got a fair amount of manufacturing inefficiencies, and I, you know, we are expecting those to continue into the fourth quarter, and we're working through what we think next year looks like, but, you know, when we've got the level of increase in our output that we have planned, you know, I think it's the prudent thing to do. So as we get into next year, obviously, as we work those efficiencies down, our supply chain transformation program is kicking in substantial savings, and we're going to exit the year with a very strong run rate. So those will help us. So all those things together are going to more than offset any of the additional headwind that we get from tariffs.

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James Hardman
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Much appreciated.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Mike. You bet.

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Gary
Operator

The next question is from Scott Stember with CL King. Please go ahead.

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Scott Stember
Analyst, CL King

Good morning, and thanks for taking my questions. Good morning, Scott. The fourth quarter looks like you're going to be able to ramp up production pretty dramatically, but it also looks like you're going to have to, I guess, move heaven and earth to make sure that it happens out of the capacity. Can you ever just talk about how you're going to do that, the impact to margins, if there's any incremental inefficiencies, and how we should look at that heading into the early parts of next year?

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I mean, you think about it, there's puts and takes with ramping up production. You know, one is we get, you know, better factory utilization, which is a helpful input to margins. But on the other side, there's additional logistics costs as we expedite suppliers and expedite shipments. And, you know, as I mentioned, one of the things the team did extremely well in the third quarter was move shipments around and make sure they got to the right dealer at the right time. And that's an expensive cost. But overall, it's predominantly the expedite costs that we have to do with our suppliers. But as I said, Ken and his team, it's almost a science. They know exactly what the suppliers are. They're monitoring their capacity. They know what they need to get to. And we're working our production schedules based on that. But with all that said, we believe year over year we're going to ramp up production about 50%. So that clearly indicates our confidence in the team to do that reasonably well.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

And Scott, what I would add to that is When we look from Q3 to Q4, obviously, when you do the math, the margins are coming down. Pull the promo stuff off to the side. The inefficiencies started in, call it mid to late August, and really were at full force in September. Right now, we're banking on that essentially continuing through the fourth quarter. As Scott said, it's the right thing to assume. It's hard to imagine that the logistics costs and other things that we're incurring here coming out of the third quarter into the fourth quarter aren't going to continue. That's a little bit of the headwind. Obviously, the work we can do to mitigate that, that'll help. But the priority is to safely get product into the dealers so we can move it through the channel.

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Scott Stember
Analyst, CL King

All right, great. And last question, just I guess once we get through the fourth quarter and assuming that retail demand remains very strong next year, do you have plans to add additional capacity or can you continue to grow under the footprint that you have right now?

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Our footprint can carry us for a while. We've obviously, as I mentioned in our premiered remarks, we've done our long-range planning and certainly it gets constrained there at some point, but we believe we can make it through 2021. We've added almost 500 employees in our factory network in the third quarter, so we ramped up quickly. We've got additional capacity within our current network, but it's just managing the supply base and we're confident we're doing that. It's just, you know, with a few suppliers, it's taking us a little bit longer than we would like.

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Scott Stember
Analyst, CL King

Okay, that's all I have. Thank you.

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

speaker
Gary
Operator

The next question is from Joe Altobello with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

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Joe Altobello
Analyst, Raymond James

Thanks, guys. Good morning. And, Scott, I just wanted to pick up on that comment you just made about the supply chain issues. You mentioned earlier today market share in ORVs is really more about availability than innovation. So why do you think that some of your competitors – have not been as impacted by these supply chain issues to the same degree? Is it simply they have lower volume? And do you see that getting better in the winter as things have slowed down?

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I think it's primarily because they started with much higher DSO than we did. So they had more availability as they wound down. So they're going to end up in the same place we are, but it just took them a little bit longer to get there because their demand wasn't as high. But ultimately, I mean, as I said, we – Steve Mineto and his team ran the analysis and that was the sole limiter and it's why we've got so much focus right now on improving output in the fourth quarter.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

And I'd also say the size differential when you look at the ramp up that the markets had given the competitors are substantially smaller than us it's a very different equation for them.

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Joe Altobello
Analyst, Raymond James

That's helpful. I guess secondly I'm curious how retail looked in October and if you're seeing any evidence that the election uncertainty is weighing on Great. Thank you, guys. Thank you.

speaker
Gary
Operator

The next question is from Robin Farley with UBS. Please go ahead.

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Robin Farley
Analyst, UBS

Great. Thank you. Great results here. I just want to clarify one thing, though. When you're talking about consumer demand continuing into next year, you're not specifically saying that you expect Retail to be positive in 21, or are you saying that? I just want to clarify. Obviously, you know, with such a tremendously strong year this year, you could be optimistic about retail next year and still not think it's going to be positive. So I just wanted to kind of clarify that. Thanks.

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, you're exactly right, Robin. I mean, we've had unbelievable – actually, but we had reasonably good growth in January, February before things happened, and down in March – and April and then, you know, picked up, you know, beyond that. So, I think it's going to be, you know, spotty throughout the year but, you know, overall what we've said and we tried to make sure we were careful with our words is consumer demand to be healthy. Now, and to your point, it could be very healthy and still not be positive to a, you know, plus 50 comp that we had in the second quarter. But ultimately, we do expect a good healthy environment and, you know, what we're seeing right now is literally it's just Part of the challenge with replenishing the channel is just products going off the shelf almost as soon as we get it into the dealership. And that, at some point, is going to slow down. We just don't know when it's going to be.

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Robin Farley
Analyst, UBS

Okay, great. And then the corollary to that, I guess, would be, given how much dealer inventory is depleted, even if retail is down next year, what would shipments, and I know you're not guiding to next year, but if we just look at Your black chart showing that your inventory is about a third of what it should be. What is that just restocking dealers to where you would like them to be for off-road or where they would want to be for off-road would represent kind of what percent of, you know, that's equivalent to kind of what percent of retail sales in, you know, say 2019, just to think about how that restocking will be able to drive your growth even if retail is not positive.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I don't know if I can answer it in that context, but what I would tell you is as we're doing the projections around where we want to get from an optimal dealer inventory DSO, it's going to take us through, you know, call it the first half to essentially get dealer inventory back on a consistent basis. And, you know, that's assuming retail plays out as we're expecting in the fourth quarter and through the first half.

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Robin Farley
Analyst, UBS

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks.

speaker
Gary
Operator

The next question is from Craig Kennison with Baird. Please go ahead.

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Craig Kennison
Analyst, Baird

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Slide eight, it shows a really impressive growth in the total addressable market up around 6%, I think, year-to-date with still three months to go. I guess I'm curious about your core customer, not that incremental customer, but the core customer. Is that customer upgrading at the same rate? Are they sort of deferring some of those Weigelt, Marc Suarez, Significant performance we've had where they can't get a vehicle I know I have some personal friends that you know, they can't get their hands on a vehicle So they're doing upgrades to their existing vehicles And then I don't know if you can put a number on it But I would think a powersport vehicle has a higher attachment rate to it when it comes to buying that second or third unit If somebody in the family buys one somebody else may buy one later. That's certainly not true for a boat for example and Is there any way to quantify what you think that follow-through demand might look like?

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

It's hard to quantify, Craig, but it's certainly indicative of the growth that Steve Eastman and his team are seeing. And, you know, like we've demonstrated, record PG&A results. And, you know, it's really what we've seen at TAP where we do see that second and third buyer doing incrementally more. And as we broaden our portfolio, not just with more attachments but with more innovative attachments, We're certainly seeing that happen. Some of it, Ride Command is a great example where it's a benefit that people want. We're seeing that happen, but I can't quantify it for you.

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Gary
Operator

Thank you.

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

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Gary
Operator

The next question is from Jamie Katz with Morningstar. Please go ahead.

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Jamie Katz
Analyst, Morningstar

Hi. Good morning, guys. Nice quarter. I have a question I guess on the proximity to the election since you brought it up. Do you care to opine on maybe what your top issues might be for just troubleshooting what might come up depending on which candidate gets into office?

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Tariff, taxes, and regulatory. Okay, for both. Obviously, tariffs have been a headwind with the current administration. Taxes could be a headwind if it changes. And the regulatory environment certainly has been good with the Trump administration. So we have to manage that. And as I said in our remarks, we can't control it, but we'll be ready to deal with it.

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Jamie Katz
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. And then I know global adjacent markets is small, but it looks like there is going to be some decent growth in the final quarter of the year. Was there a timing shift on some deliveries or something with the supply chain that was delayed that's being pushed into the fourth quarter? I know we're laughing, weak results. How can we think about what is driving that improvement?

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, there's something to remember that our defense business has some timing associated with it and that coupled with the fact that it's the law of small numbers and that'll be the main driver there.

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Jamie Katz
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay, thanks.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

You bet.

speaker
Gary
Operator

The next question is from David McGregor with Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

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David McGregor
Analyst, Longbow Research

Good morning. Congrats on a good quarter. You mentioned, Mike, the gross profits up 260 basis points. How much of the margin contribution there do you think is from lower promotional activity?

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

It's probably just under 100 basis points that would have been from promo. The way to think about that is a portion of it probably should have been skewed into Q2 and a little bit into Q4 just in terms of the way we do the promo reserve. Once we have line of sight that we're not going to need those reserves. Given what's going on in the marketplace, we have to make the adjustments right away.

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David McGregor
Analyst, Longbow Research

Then ORV, is there any way you can talk about some of these traditional subgroups like AG and ONG and just the impact that they may have had on the numbers for the quarter?

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

We had most of our weakness in product availability in the ranger category. and ultimately that is more related to ag so interestingly we've got with the ag program being as successful as it's been it's great demand there we just were not able to fulfill it and you know ultimately we're seeing good you know we got a great leadership and a team down in Huntsville and they're ramping up production quickly but that was more where we had the constraints in the quarter so that was the biggest issue for us.

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David McGregor
Analyst, Longbow Research

Last question for me, just a slingshot. You talked about high 50s. How much of that's the auto drive response?

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

You know, it's hard to say. Obviously, with such a de minimis portion of the population being able to drive a stick shift, you'd have to say that a good bit of it does. But really, the refinement of that vehicle is so good that I think we're seeing a lot of people trade up. So we're... It's really good demand for slingshot, and the auto drive is going to give us a much larger opportunity than we had previously with only stick shift.

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David McGregor
Analyst, Longbow Research

Congratulations. Thanks.

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

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Gary
Operator

The next question is from Derek Johnson with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

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Derek Johnson
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Great. Thank you. Good morning. Hey, Mike, you guys mentioned that the supply chain transformation program was beneficial in this challenging environment. Maybe you could talk a little bit about that. I recall the goal was 60% fewer suppliers, so intuitively it would make me think that you might be in a disadvantageous position. So tell me how that's benefiting you in this environment.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I'd say a couple things. One, you know, if you go back to when COVID first came on the scene, coronavirus came on the scene, Ken and his team mobilized around the Asia-based suppliers and what the impact was. Because of wave one and essentially we're through wave two, our knowledge of that supply base coupled with what we were doing during the tariffs was very high. And so we were able to get in very quickly, prioritize. We've got a team that can go in and help from a production standpoint where need be. I would argue because of the work we've done, we've made sure that we've got stronger suppliers. So Fewer doesn't mean weaker. Fewer actually means stronger. And our knowledge of them is much, I'd call it much more intimate. We're only through now the second wave starting the implementation. So there's still a fair amount that has to go. And I would argue where we trimmed off suppliers probably actually helped us during this because those tended to be weaker suppliers with poorer performance and probably would not have been able to keep up as we went through this substantial volume ramp-up.

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Derek Johnson
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay, that makes a lot of sense. How are you guys planning RFM profiles for off-road next season for your North American dealers?

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, we're planning to meet them. No, but in all seriousness, Steve and his team are really looking at can we run the business with slightly less DSO than we did previously as we Weigelt, Marc Suarez, you know, dealers lobbying for lower profiles and now we've got every single dealer asking for more so we're going to balance that out but I think in balance we'll have just slightly lower DSO than we had coming into this.

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Gary
Operator

All right. Thank you, guys.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Kurt.

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Gary
Operator

The next question is from Joseph Spack with RBC. Please go ahead.

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Joseph Spack
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thanks. Good morning. I actually wanted to maybe follow up on that comment you just made, Scott. I know you made it clear that you think the inventory has crimped demand and obviously the level of inventories is certainly extremely low but with gross margins the highest in over five years or about five years does this really make you rethink your inventory strategy somewhat and maybe even further do you think it may have caused the industry to finally find some religion on inventory and promotion? Well, clearly

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

We're confident that what Ken and Steve and the team have done to manage the whole value chain gives us the opportunity to manage our network with a lower net inventory. It really, unfortunately, I do think you're right. The pandemic helped them find religion, but it really takes some discipline across the competitive set, and I don't have any confidence that that's true once we get back to normal operating procedures. So We've all seen it benefits our dealers. Their margins are better. The OEMs, all of our margins are better. But I think it's a false promise to think that everyone's found religion and that the world's going to go back and be a completely different place going forward. There's hope, but hope's not a strategy. But I think we'll be a little bit better as an industry, but probably not a lot.

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Joseph Spack
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. And then the second question is just on the 10-year partnership with Xero, and I think you indicated with that you want to have an electric product in each of your core segments by 2025. Can you just explain the partnership a little bit more? And I don't think there was an investment, and maybe why that differs from some of the other electrification strategies you've done in the past where you've actually acquired technology. Okay.

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, well, as you correctly pointed out, with owning Brambo's motorcycle business for a while and all of the experience we've had with Goupil and Jim and Taylor Dunn in the electric space, and even with the best-selling electric product in the industry with our Ranger EV, we've got a lot of experience. But as we approach this time around with Musso's leadership, we really looked at who has the Before we looked at available technology, and I think if you look at others in the industry, they found available technology, and that's what they're going with. We chose what we're confident is the best technology for our types of products. And what they've proven with 15 million miles of on-road experience with Xero's motorcycle business and the leading industry sales of electric motorcycles, They know how to make electric power trains that fit in a constrained environment. Again, you know this because you cover the space. If you build an electric pickup truck, you've got a shitload of space to put batteries. We don't have that real estate. What Xero's figured out is with a great battery supplier and a great power management system, how to integrate that into a motorcycle. It's not plug and play, but it's not that far from it where we can take that The next question is from Sean Collins with Citigroup. Please go ahead. Yeah, great. Thank you. Hi, Scott, Mike, and Richard. Good morning. It's nice to speak with you. Morning.

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Sean Collins
Analyst, Citigroup

So retail is more than healthy across all your segments. So I wanted to ask about motorcycles. Industry is down about 2% or 3% in the third quarter. Maybe it's up 2% or 3% if you include three wheels. Yet Indian is up 42%, so the impressive growth continues to run. Slingshot is up high 50s. Can you talk about recent trends at Indian and if there's anything different most recently with the impact of COVID-19? and also maybe touch upon the competitive environment and landscape for Indian that you're seeing in general. Thank you.

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. You know, I'm probably one of the few people that watched it, but they had the bagger races this weekend and Indian, you know, won against a field of, you know, most all competitive bikes. And, you know, that's kind of what's going on globally right now. We're doing really well in Europe, really well in, you know, Australia and Asia. Yeah. But the U.S. market, which is the biggest for us and for our competitor, is really exceptionally well for us. The Challenger has been a great bike for us. I talked about Swingshot and what the Autodrive has done for us, but FTR is doing well. The Indian Scout and Scout Bobber continue to do well. And really, Mike Doherty and the team with Indian globally are driving a great performance. And not only are we driving growth, but we're accelerating growth. margin expansion as well and that's going to continue into next year. So we're really encouraged about where we are with the motorcycle business.

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Sean Collins
Analyst, Citigroup

Great. That is helpful. Thank you for the time and insight. Thank you.

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Gary
Operator

The next question is from Mark Smith with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

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Mark Smith
Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

Hi, guys. I wanted to ask about average selling price and any shift during the quarter. Did you see new consumers coming in and looking for kind of entry-level lower-priced things were those all sold out and they would buy basically anything that was at a dealer?

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

You know, I think it's a mix of both. Obviously, if you look at our ASP during the quarter, it is skewed by the fact that we had to reverse the promo out. And I think if you look at the rest of the year, it's called more flattish. I don't know that it's easy to characterize that they're all coming in at the value segment or at the high end. I think it depends. It depends on the consumer. It depends on the geography. And to your point, it also depends on availability of the product.

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Mark Smith
Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

And that leads to the next question, which is, as you ramp production here, are you really focused on these higher priced, maybe higher margin products versus you know, a line dedicated to four-wheelers rather than XP pros.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

No, I would tell you it's pretty much across the board. You know, when you look at our dealer inventory, you know, I mean, I don't want to say it's all down equally, but, you know, there's certain spots where we have bigger deficits that we're working through, but, you know, I don't know that it's disproportionate either way.

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Mark Smith
Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

Okay, great. Thank you.

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Mike Speetzen
Chief Financial Officer

You bet.

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Gary
Operator

Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. The next question is from Brandon Rollay with North Coast Research. Please go ahead.

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Brandon Rollay
Analyst, North Coast Research

Good morning and congratulations on the strong earnings results. I just have one question, largely just on the recalls announced this month. There were two stop sales, stop rides. In prior years, you know, sometimes there were more recalls in the pipeline that hadn't been announced yet. And I guess my question is, you know, are the recalls over with these two in October or should we be expecting more on the way? Thanks.

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Scott Wine
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I mean, first and foremost, as you know, I said in my prepared remarks, the safety of our employees is our top priority and we feel the same way about our customers. So when we identify a problem with any of our vehicles, we're going to address it if it presents a risk to our customers. And these were two disparate issues that we've had, they weren't related at all. I think when you're referring to a series of recalls, I think that goes back to when we had the problem with thermal that we were working through on various things to make sure we were improving the thermal efficacy of our vehicles. And that's not the case now. What we're doing is looking. We've got an incredibly capable team and tools to evaluate what's happening with our products in the field. Great, thank you.

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Gary
Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Richard Edwards for any closing remarks.

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Richard Edwards
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you and I just want to thank everyone for participating in the call this morning and we look forward to talking to you at the end of the year. Thanks again and goodbye.

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Gary
Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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