Park Hotels & Resorts Inc

Greetings and welcome to the Park Hotels & Resorts Second Quarter 2026 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Ian Weissman. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Operator, and welcome everyone to the Park, Hotels & Resorts Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that many of the comments made today are considered forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. As described in our filings with the SEC, these statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause future results to differ from those expressed and we are not obligated to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements. Actual performance, outcomes and results may differ materially from those expressed in forward-looking statements. Please refer to the documents filed by PARCC with the SEC, specifically the most recent reports on Forms 10-K and 10-Q, which identify important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from those contained in the forward-looking statements. In addition, on today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial information, such as adjusted FFO and adjusted EBITDA. You can find this information together with reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure in yesterday's earnings release, as well as in our 8K filed with the SEC, and the supplemental financial information available on our website at pkhotelsandresorts.com. Additionally, unless otherwise stated, all operating results will be presented on a comparable hotel basis. This morning, Tom Baltimore, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, will provide an update on our strategic initiatives and review PARCC's second quarter performance and outlook for the year, while Sean Dell'Orto, our Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer, will provide updates on our capital investments and additional color on guidance. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Tom.

Thank you, Ian, and welcome everyone. I am pleased to report that PARC delivered another outstanding quarter, with results meaningfully exceeding our expectations and demonstrating the continued strength and resilience of our portfolio. REVPAR increased nearly 7% year-over-year, excluding Royal Palm South Beach, with growth accelerating from approximately 4% in April to 5% in May and over 11% in June. Performance was driven by strong group demand and higher-rated leisure travel across the portfolio. Highlighted by the exceptional strength in Hawaii, as a result, resort RevPar increased more than 9% excluding Royal Palm, while our urban portfolio delivered nearly 4% RevPar growth. These results reflect both the pace of demand across our markets and the benefits of our disciplined capital investment strategy. Notably, our strongest performance continues to come from assets where we have invested significant capital in recent years, including Orlando, Key West, and Hawaii, underscoring the value creation and outsized returns generated by our targeted reinvestment initiatives. Hawaii was among the top performers, with REVPAR increasing approximately 9% year-over-year and accelerating meaningfully from the first quarter. Performance improved sequentially each month, driven by a significant increase in leisure demand and strong in-house group activity, which more than offset the loss of citywide business resulting from the partial closure of the Honolulu Convention Center, which is expected to remain closed through 2027. Hilton Hawaiian Village was the clear standout, with REVPAR increasing nearly 12% and EBITDA growing more than 13%. Property continued to gain market share throughout the quarter, ending June with a REVPAR index of 117, representing a four-point improvement compared to June 2024 or prior to the commencement of the Rainbow Tower renovation. The hotel's momentum continued into July with occupancy of 98% for a nearly 700 basis point improvement year over year and preliminary rev par growth of over 6%. Both Hilton Hawaiian Village and Hilton Waikoloa Village are benefiting from our recent capital investments as the renovated Rainbow and Palace Towers are generating strong guest demand and meaningful rate premiums. Hawaii is demonstrating why it remains One of the most attractive resort markets in the country. Demand trends are healthy, with the Hawaii Tourism Board recently raising its 2026 visitor arrivals forecast by a full percentage point to nearly 2%, supported by growth from East Coast markets and improving international trends. Several major airlines, including Alaska, Delta, and Southwest, have also announced increased airlift to Hawaii for the remainder of the year. We remain confident that both hotels still have significant runway for future growth as they recover back to their 2023 peak earnings levels. With the Rainbow Tower and Palace Tower renovations now complete and the Alihi Tower renovation at Hilton Hawaiian Village about to commence, We believe the setup for 2027 and beyond is exceptionally strong. Turning to Florida, our Bonnet Creek Complex and Key West properties once again delivered outstanding results with rev par growth of 13% and 10% respectively, underscoring the strength of our capital investments and the sustained demand for Florida's premier resort destinations. At Bonnet Creek, the complex achieved record second-quarter rooms and food and beverage revenue for the third consecutive year, further validating the significant investments we have made in the assets. Both the Waldorf Astoria Orlando and the Signia by Hilton Orlando Bonnet Creek contribute exceptional performance, with RevPAR increasing nearly 15% and 12% respectively. Waldo Prestoria's food and beverage revenue surpassed last year's record by 24%, driven by strong outlet performance and meaningful group contributions. We were also pleased to see the Waldo Prestoria Orlando recognized on Travel and Leisure's 2026 World's Best list. In Key West, second quarter rooms and food and beverage revenue also reached new record levels, supported by strong leisure demand and continued growth in group business. Casa Marina led performance with RevPar increasing more than 14% year-over-year as the property's repositioning continued to drive gains in market share, which was up over eight points in the quarter to a RevPar index of over 120. The resort also delivered record food and beverage results, with a 36% year-over-year increase, benefiting from enhanced restaurant offerings and the continued success of Dorado, highlighting the strong returns generated by our recent investments. Our urban portfolio was another source of strength during the quarter. Washington, D.C. led the way with nearly 17% RevPAR growth as government-related demand increased. Chicago delivered nearly 12% RevPar growth, supported by strong group and transient demand, and exceptionally strong banquet and catering results, which drove meaningful profit growth, while Hyatt Regency Boston benefited from continued strength in group and citywide business, along with demand associated with the Boston Marathon and World Cup matches, resulting in nearly 9% RevPar growth. Turning to group demand, which was a major contributor to our second quarter's outperformance, group rooms revenue increased 9.5% year-over-year, led by strength in Washington, D.C., Orlando, and Chicago, while June group revenue increased nearly 23%. Full-year 2026 group revenue pace is now up nearly 6%, We remain encouraged by overall group booking trends for the balance of the year, supported by continued strength in corporate groups, in-house events, and citywide activity across several of our core markets. Looking ahead to 2027, group revenue pace for our core portfolio is up over 6%, with double-digit increases in Hawaii, New York, Key West, and San Francisco, providing us with further confidence in the continued strength of group demand. On the capital allocation front, we continue to execute our strategy of recycling capital out of underperforming non-core assets while enhancing the quality and long-term growth profile of our portfolio. Since our May earnings call, we have completed three additional dispositions. In May, we sold our ownership interest in an unconsolidated joint venture that owns and operates the 288-room Embassy Suites Old Town Alexandria for gross proceeds of $29 million. In June, we exited the 288-room 62 Rome Embassy Suites, Austin through the termination of the short-term ground lease and sale of the hotel's operating assets, generating approximately 6 million in proceeds. Most recently in July, completed the sale of the 314 Rome Hilton Short Hills for 12 million. These transactions represent another step forward toward simplifying the company. Lowering future capital needs and concentrating our portfolio on higher quality assets with stronger growth prospects and more durable earnings. Since announcing our plan in early 2025 to exit our remaining non-core assets, we have sold or disposed of 10 of the 19 identified hotels, generating nearly $200 million of proceeds and an average multiple of approximately 12.5 times EBITDA. And since the spin, we have now sold or disposed of 55 assets for more than $3 billion. We continue to make solid progress with the remaining non-core hotels, which today account for less than 5% of the portfolio's value, and remain firmly committed to materially reducing our exposure by year end with active marketing efforts underway for several assets. As always, we remain disciplined and laser focused on executing transactions that strengthen our earnings, improve the long-term growth profile of the portfolio, and maximize shareholder value. Turning to capital investments, we are thrilled to have officially reopened The Royal Palm South Beach on July 22nd, following the successful completion of its transformative redevelopment, which was completed in just 15 months as planned. More than $100 million project included the comprehensive renovation of all 393 existing guest rooms, the addition of 11 new keys, a complete reimagination of the lobby and public spaces, Four new food and beverage concepts and significant enhancements to the hotel's meeting and event facilities. We believe Royal Palm is now exceptionally well positioned to capitalize on ongoing strength of the South Florida market and compete more effectively within the upper upscale and luxury segments. Upon stabilization, which we expect could occur over the next two years, We believe this investment has the potential to double the hotel's EBITDA. More importantly, it serves as another compelling example of our unique ability to create substantial shareholder value through targeted capital investments that enhance asset quality, strengthen competitive positioning, and unlock meaningful earnings growth. would also like to recognize our design and construction team for their exceptional execution of this complex project. Their efforts further demonstrate Park's core competency to diligently evaluate and timely execute complex capital projects that will unlock embedded value across our portfolio. As we look at the balance of the year, I remain encouraged are the continued strength across our portfolio. Despite some geopolitical and macroeconomic headwinds, the U.S. economy continues to show strength, benefiting from a resilient consumer, a stable labor market, and ongoing business investment, supporting demand across both leisure and group travel, combined with the reopening of the Royal Palm South Beach and strong group booking momentum, We believe Park is well-positioned to deliver solid results through the remainder of 2026 and beyond. I am also incredibly proud of the progress our team has made strengthening the portfolio through disciplined capital allocation, active capital recycling, and proactive balance sheet management, which has strengthened Park's earnings power and long-term growth profile while enhancing our financial flexibility. Beyond this year, I am equally optimistic following the planned completion of the Olihi Tower renovation at Hilton Hawaiian Village, expected in early 2027. We will have completed nearly $350 million of transformative capital investments across our Hawaii portfolio. As a result, our Hawaiian resorts will be exceptionally well positioned to capitalize on the continued recovery in the market and further narrow the approximately $60 million EBITDA gap relative to their 2023 peak earnings level. At the same time, as operations at Royal Palm South Beach ramp, we expect the property, upon stabilization, to contribute approximately $28 million of EBITDA over the next few years. Together with the continued benefits of our capital recycling program and core portfolio focus, these catalysts reinforced our confidence in Park's ability to drive meaningful earnings growth and create substantial long-term value for shareholders. With that, I will turn the call over to Sean.

Thanks, Tom. We were very pleased with our second quarter results, which came in well ahead of expectations. Total Portfolio RepR increased nearly 6% to $217, and as Tom noted earlier, increased nearly 7% year-over-year, excluding Royal Palm. Total Hotel Revenue increased 6% during the quarter, while Hotel Adjusted EBITDA increased nearly 9% to $204 million, resulting in a Hotel Adjusted EBITDA margin of nearly 32%, up 80 basis points year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $198 million and adjusted FFO per share was $0.70. The quarter's outperformance was driven by a balance of increasing group and leisure demand. As Tom noted earlier, group was up 9.5%, exceeding expectations by 700 basis points, was strong in the quarter for the quarter pickup in the in-house corporate and SMURF segments, while the leisure transient segment grew by over 13%, and exceeded expectations by nearly 500 basis points. This pickup translated to stronger-than-expected operating results at the Hilton Hawaiian Village, Arbonic Creek Complex and Casa Marina, as well as at our hotels in Chicago, Santa Barbara and Washington, D.C., each of which generated double-digit year-over-year repart growth during the quarter. We also realized a modest benefit from the FIFA World Cup across our host city markets of New York, Boston and San Francisco, Consistent with the lower end of our expectations, contributing roughly 30 basis points towards full-year portfolio REBPAR growth, essentially offsetting the 30 basis point drag expected from Royal Palm this year. Turning to capital investments, during the second quarter we invested a total of $64 million in capital improvements, with full-year CapEx expected to range between $230 million and $260 million. In Hawaii, we are set to commence the comprehensive renovation of the 348-room Ali'i Tower at Hilton Hawaiian Village this month. This investment of approximately $100 million will include a complete renovation of all guest rooms and the addition of three more keys within the premium oceanfront tower, along with enhancements to food and beverage outlets, including the Tropics Bar & Grill and the Poolside Outlet Mixed Bar, all of which are expected to be completed early next year. Upon completion, nearly 80% of the guest rooms across the nearly 3,000 room Hilton Hawaiian Village complex will have been fully renovated. And finally, in New Orleans, we commenced the third and final phase of the main tower guest room renovation in May, encompassing the remaining 489 guest rooms and expected to be completed by mid-October. Upon completion, all 1,600 plus guest rooms will have been fully renovated, significantly enhancing the quality and competitiveness of one of our most important convention-oriented assets. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the second quarter with net debt of approximately $3.7 billion, translating to a net debt to EBITDA ratio of 6.1 times, roughly two-tenths of a turn lower than last quarter. Equity was $2.6 billion, including $260 million in cash, $1 billion of available capacity under our revolver, $600 million under our delayed draw term loan and the $700 million Bonnet Creek delayed draw financing. During the quarter, we drew $200 million under the delayed draw term loan and used a portion of the proceeds to repay the $120 million Hyatt Regency Boston mortgage ahead of its July maturity. Looking ahead, we intend to use the remaining delayed draw term loan capacity together with the Bonnet Creek proceeds to fully repay the $1.27 billion Hilton Hawaiian Village mortgage in September and also plan to refinance the Hilton Santa Barbara mortgage later this year. These transactions are expected to meaningfully extend our debt maturities and further enhance our financial flexibility. With respect to our dividend, on July 15th, we paid our second quarter cash dividend of $0.25 per share. and on July 31st, the Board approved a third quarter cash dividend of 25 cents per share to be paid on October 15th to stockholders of record as of September 30th. The dividend currently translates to an annualized yield of approximately 6.5% based on recent trading levels. Turning to guidance, we are increasing both our REBPAR and earnings guidance ranges to reflect our second quarter outperformance and strong start to the third quarter. as demand trends continue to exceed expectations across our portfolio. Accordingly, we are raising our full-year REBPAR outlook by approximately 225 basis points at the midpoint to a new range of 3% to 4.5%. This updated outlook reflects the roughly 370 basis points of outperformance delivered during the second quarter, as well as stronger than anticipated results at the start of the third quarter with July REBPAR increasing 8.5%. driven by continued strength in Hawaii, Key West, Boston, Santa Barbara, and Washington, D.C. Based on current booking trends and recent operating performance, we now expect third quarter REVPAR growth to trend toward the upper end of our revised guidance range and exceed prior expectations. From an earnings perspective, we are increasing adjusted EBITDA guidance by approximately $25 million at the midpoint to a new range of $617 million to $637 million, while adjusted FFO guidance increases by approximately 13 cents per share at the midpoint to a new range of $1.90 to $2 per share. This increase to guidance also reflects an assumed increase in expenses of 3% to 4%, with a stronger demand environment and higher occupancy expectations across the portfolio, driving increases in variable costs such as labor and utilities. Partially offset by reductions in fixed costs with $11 million in benefits achieved from successful property tax appeals in the second quarter and a 20% reduction in property insurance premiums achieved during the June 1st renewal of our program. In addition, with respect to Royal Palm, our outlook assumes only a modest earnings contribution from the hotel in the back half of the year. With more meaningful earnings growth expected in 2027 and 2028, as the hotel ramps toward stabilization. We are encouraged by initial booking trends with group and transient ADRs for the balance of this year up 21% and 53% respectively compared to pre-renovation levels and tracking ahead of our expectations. These early results reinforce our confidence in the property's long-term earnings potential. Royal Palm is one of South Florida's premier lifestyle resort assets and we continue to expect meaningful earnings growth as occupancy ADR, and ancillary revenues billed through the stabilization period. We look forward to welcoming many of you to the property during our November investor tour and showcasing the exceptional transformation firsthand. Finally, the recently completed dispositions of the three non-core assets Tom spoke to earlier are expected to reduce second half EBITDA by approximately $3.5 million, which has been reflected in our updated guidance. This concludes our prepared remarks. We will now open the line for Q&A. To address each of your questions, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Operator, may we have the first question, please?

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. And our first question will come from Floris van Dijkum with Ladenburg-Fallman.

Hey, thanks guys. Hey, morning. Obviously results are solid and the sale of non-core makes it easier to see the quality of the portfolio. You've outlined in the past sort of upside in EBITDA. I think you said about a hundred million of EBITDA over 25 levels simply from Hawaii and the Royal Palm Beach. and then there's an incremental potential other $100 million probably from Urban and from Orlando and other assets that you have. Maybe talk a little bit about the timing of when you think that potential $200 million of EBITDA could hit the bottom line in the portfolio.

Floris, thank you for your question. I appreciate all the listeners. I think the 200 million might be a little overstated. We've really focused more around 100 million. That would be sort of the 60 to 70 million sort of recovery of Hawaii. And then, of course, as both Sean and I mentioned in our prepared remarks, about 28 million plus or minus upon stabilization for Royal Palm. So I would sort of anchor you in that. and I would just step back and think again about what we've been saying for several quarters in the last few years and we've been laser focused on reshaping the portfolio. We've sold or disposed of now 55 assets for north of $3 billion. We're really down to 21 core hotels and that's nine sort of remaining non-core that only account for Less than 5% of value of the company. I think that's important. Three of those nine are part of the dispute, which don't really require a lot of discussion at this point, and only about 16 million in EBITDA. The other six assets account for approximately 35 million in EBITDA, and we've got work streams underway. So we are making, as promised, Significant progress and we expect to be substantially complete by the end of the year. And then secondarily, we have been laser focused and relentless on really demonstrating our track record with these transformative renovations. We've said before and we'll say again, we think we can generate higher development yields over acquisition yields. And if you think about Bonnet Creek and the extraordinary success we're having with that property. If you think about the Key West two assets in our portfolio there, again, outstanding and outsized results. Hilton Hawaiian Village with Tapa Tower, the Rainbow Tower. And what's amazing about Hawaii when you step back, the market was largely flat, but we grew at Hilton Hawaiian Village up 12%. And Hilton Waikoloa, even though down slightly because it Coming back online after renovating the Palace Tower, again, still gaining share at Hilton Hawaiian Village pretty dramatically there. And then again, as you think about New Orleans and the work that we've got underway there in the third phase, Royal Palm, as we mentioned, having that completed on time. So very, very bullish as we think about the future. And I think... strong execution on part of the team across the board whether it's selling the non-core whether it's obviously the transformative renovations we continue to create value and a lot of that being organic and we think that it's a way that Park can really separate itself as we move forward.

Thanks Tom. My follow-up is actually regarding the The capital allocation towards redevelopment or ROI projects. I mean, you guys have done a, you know, had a really strong track record of getting, you know, call it 20-ish percent returns on invested capital in Orlando and in Key West. You've got a number of other potential projects in the pipeline as well. Could you maybe touch on the A&B tower, the additional tower in Hawaii Village, Santa Barbara, and I believe Waikoloa, and how investors should think about investment and deployment into those assets over the next two or three years?

Yeah, I would again make the kind of broad statement. We have an underappreciated, iconic portfolio. And when you step back and look at it, there really are improving fundamentals and I think outsized growth opportunities from 2026, the second half, really through 2028. And those are markets in Hawaii. That's Miami. That's Key West. That's Orlando. And if you step back and think about Hawaii again, the Alihi Tower, Oceanfront, Premium Tower, a hotel within a hotel that's got its own check-in. We're going to close that down, 348 keys, here in the coming weeks with the expectation that we will reopen that in early next year. Could not be more excited. I think it'll again demonstrate Carl Mayfield and his design and construction team at Park and their extraordinary work, so we're excited. and again the whole objective is closing that 60 to 70 million dollar gap that we've been talking about in Hawaii. Royal Palm as we mentioned is now open and I would also reemphasize open largely on time as we communicated, as we planned. There are many hoteliers, some in our space and others outside that there are four billion dollars plus or minus in development projects The fact that we were on time, largely on budget, is a real credit to our unique ability to both plan and execute these types of projects. As you think about Bonnet Creek, we've continued to get growth and market share gains there. We've taken Bonnet Creek from $62 million in EBITDA, we're tracking towards 105 to 110 million this year and we are still not at fair share let me repeat that again so we're up 60 to 70 percent in cash flow but we are still not at fair share very competitive comp set but it still gives us the opportunity for additional growth there which addresses your issue about us continuing to grow cash flow so Really excited about that. Key West continues to outperform as we outlined across the board. And again, very strong REVPAR index performance there as well. And Hilton Santa Barbara is another that we look at along with our partner that we think a comprehensive renovation there could generate outsized returns as well. So those are what I would call in the lineup outsized opportunities for significant growth. The A&B Tower really don't want to talk about. Our plan there is to get it entitled. We do not think it makes sense to move forward with that at any point in the near future and are more focused on the existing towers at this time. So with that I'll stop and I know we've got other people in the queue.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Dwayne Senegwerth with Evercore ISI.

Hey, thank you. Good morning. Just given the sell-down of non-core hotels and the completion of the Miami asset, the Royal Palm, can you just speak to the longer-term trajectory of capital spending? Is this an above-average year? Should it Should it bend down or is this a level we should think about sustaining going forward?

Hey, Duane, this is Sean. I think it's safe to say it's something that we would think is coming down. From a maintenance capex standpoint, it's elevated because we've done some of these big ROI projects like Royal Palm. Preceding that, we've clearly done a lot of investment in Florida between Bonnet Creek and Casa Marina over the last couple of years prior to this year. In the end, I think you kind of see it more of a, you know, opposite to any big ROI projects, it's more of a maintenance CapEx that's going to be, you know, south of $200 million kind of on a run rate basis. You know, as we think about some of these projects and certainly think about an overall capital allocation strategies and ultimately what the market's kind of driving, you know, maybe if we ultimately see a different project that makes sense from our ROI perspective, you know, the CapEx could increase from there. But from a baseline, I would say it's coming down to the below $200 million market.

Thanks for that. And then just with respect to the upgrading guidance and across the sector, probably some of this is just good job expectation setting by the CFOs. But I guess what was your biggest surprise as you look at your own portfolio in 2Q and specifically what's embedded in the second half? Maybe it's the same answer. Maybe it's a different answer. What was the biggest surprise relative to your own internal expectations?

Look, I would say it was a broad-based surprise in a sense. I think the portfolio overall performed really well. I mean, clearly in Q1 earnings, we were talking about guidance. We still kind of were looking at somewhat of an uncertain world. And with gas prices going up and all the things we know about, you certainly had some hesitation there and some uncertainty. So the surprise to see the resilience in the consumer and seeing which translated to good leisure growth in the in the quarter for the quarter pickup really drove group for us 700 basis points better than expected so it was across the board you know we do see early good start to Q3 and we certainly you know think that you know can continue some of these baseline macro elements here you know that said you know we will certainly want to be make sure that we're continue to exceed expectations so we're seeing things appropriately

And Duane, I would agree with everything Sean noted. I would also echo that, you know, World Cup, we didn't think World Cup would be a big contributor to PARCC and, you know, it essentially performed as expected. We think, again, that sets us up for 27 not having some of those difficult comps that perhaps others may have.

And we'll go next to Smedes Rose with Citi.

Hi, thanks. I wanted to ask you first, Tom, you mentioned group pace is up 6% for 2027. Could you just talk a little bit more about that? Is that bookings? Is that revenues? And kind of where are you now, I guess, in terms of percent of rooms sort of on the books for next year kind of relative to your expectations?

Yeah, Smeeds, if you look at 26, as Sean said, we're 5.5%, 6% for the balance of 26. We were up 9.5% in the second quarter. We're looking to be up 15% is our pace in the third quarter, which is very strong. About 96% of our business is on the books, plus or minus. And I would say it's broad-based as we look just Q3. Hilton Hawaiian Village is strong, Casa is strong, Hilton Caribe, Santa Barbara, Denver, New York, Chicago. So again, we continue to see broad-based there. As we look in 27 and just focus on the core, it's really over 6%. And New York City is strong, double-digit, Key West, Miami off the charts, obviously is part of the reopening. Hawaii double digit, San Francisco double digit. So very encouraged as we sort of look out. And even beyond that, as we look to early 28, 28 looks encouraging as well. So we are very bullish. And again, we've been intentional. We've been really sharpshooters on the capital allocation front, making sure that we're investing in our core portfolio where we can make money. and particularly if we can take the big boxes and anchor them with significant group allows us to better yield those assets and much better profitability and I think you're seeing results. The last few quarters are great examples of that. Second quarter and we remain very bullish on third quarter but as Sean mentioned we're going to be cautious and I think certainly our guidance reflects that.

And I would just add, too, in terms of the breakdown, I would say this year group PACE is more so on the occupancy side, but next year is more balanced between occupancy and rate.

Great. And, John, can I just ask you, too, so you mentioned on the release $11 million of positive real estate tax appeals. Are those kind of one time, or would you expect the Are property level EBITDA to be enhanced now with kind of a lower run rate tax basis going forward? Or maybe you could just sort of talk about the impact of those appeals.

Yeah, I would say large part, I mean, maybe a couple more one time, but really the biggest driver of that was Chicago. I think those who kind of follow Chicago enough, there's probably certainly a few of us in our peer set that have exposure in Chicago where It's kind of an annual routine, in a sense, where you kind of are appealing each year, essentially, and ultimately getting a benefit somewhere in the Q2 to Q3 timeframe. If you recall, last year we had about a $5 million benefit from an appeals win in Chicago. This year it's about $6 million, so a little bit better than that, embedded in that 11. The other ones were ultimately... you know one time in a sense in nature one of them with which was for an asset that we sold recently Shorthill so in a sense you look at our comp portfolio which Shorthill is no longer in you know the net you know quarter year over year impact is not that dramatic and I would say you know we think about the basis point margin expense we have for the quarter it's you know it was 80 overall but excluding that it was about still 40 40 plus basis points better so Yeah, well, as we look at kind of, you know, I'd say fixed costs in general, because, you know, that's certainly where we can kind of directly influence that a lot more. You know, work being done in the number of, you know, not only in the tax side and working on the appeals, but also on the insurance side. As you look at first half, we were probably on average about a point and a half down year over year on fixed costs. And, you know, with insurance helping us in the back half of the year, it's still, you know, probably about half a point below. So we're still going to get a benefit. and an offset to any other cost increases we're seeing elsewhere in the operations for the rest of 26.

And we'll hear next from Dan Pulitzer with JP Morgan.

Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for the question. I was hoping we could maybe parse out, there's a lot of moving pieces obviously in 26, but maybe to bridge to 27, maybe just kind of the big kind of building blocks between Royal Palm, Why the non-core dispositions and the property taxes? If you can kind of run through that, I think it'd be helpful.

Thanks. Certainly a lot to discuss there. I would say, as you think about, I mean, 27, we'll just kind of maybe keep it pretty broad here. Ultimately, we talked about group pace. I think that's a kind of a core foundation of visibility into next year. And certainly we don't want to get too detailed. Now we're thinking about guidance in any way, shape or form here. Group Pace being up 6% for the portfolio, a good balance in terms of resort and urban exposure to that. Tom talked about some of the certain markets that look pretty good. So we've got that as a foundation for the portfolio. Royal Palm Ramp is certainly going to be a big story for us, and we're very happy how the product turned out and how it's certainly getting some early looks and positive feedback. I would think as we think about If you just kind of take what it did in 24, essentially before we put it under renovation last year, you kind of add that to our performance and think about 27. It's probably about 150 to 200 basis points of positive impact, a tailwind, just if you take, again, its performance in 24. Clearly, we want to exceed that as we ramp up into next year. It won't be fully stabilized, but you can certainly see potential for doing better than that in terms of helping the portfolio out next year. In terms of Hawaii, you know, group pace for next year is combined 12.5%. Waikoloa is up over 20%. We're seeing great lift and good momentum from Waikoloa coming off the Palace Tower renovation. You know, we expect to see, you know, Q2 rate was up 11%, again, benefiting from that. HHV, of course, we've got the Ali'i Tower being renovated, as we mentioned. We'll come off of that in, you know, Thank you for joining us. took in some business from an incentive group for the year that basically represents 10% of the revenue expected to generate this year. So a big program, big win for the team as we kind of think about the Hawaii recovery story over the next couple of years and certainly a good nugget there for Waikalewa.

Got it. Thanks. I know that's a mouthful. There's a lot there. I guess one kind of more high-level question. You've made good progress on the non-core asset sales. As you kind of wind that down and there's fewer and fewer left and the contribution becomes smaller, is there any thought as to just kind of collapsing the non-core into the core and just kind of having one kind of clean number on a go forward?

It's a It's a fair question. It's one that we'll study. I think, candidly, it will depend on sort of where we are at the end of the year. We remain committed to cleaning up the portfolio and reshaping it. And I do think, as you look at the core, there's about a 63% difference, obviously, in REVPAR from about $215 plus or minus to $131. If you look at margins on core, it's about 30-31% versus about 16%. So pretty significant difference there. We're confident we're going to continue to make significant progress and get to the point where really the non-core is really in material as we sort of move forward.

And our next question will come from Patrick Scholes with Truist Securities.

All right, good morning. Thank you. A similar question I've been asking other companies on earnings calls, and that's what percent of your hotels do you believe would qualify for Hilton's new RISE program or Marriott's equivalent program? Thank you.

Clearly this is a program that Hilton's rolled out to its franchise and ownership community. You know, when you think about our portfolio as we talk about, you know, our portfolio is certainly heavily Hilton and call it 85 to 90% of our business is coming from Hilton. So I'd say that's, you know, clearly the lion's share. We've got the rest kind of mixed, you know, kind of evenly between Marriott and Hyatt. So certainly it's the, you know, half-rise program that's kind of, For us, I mean, I'd say in general for RISE, you know, the immediate benefits, I think, are certainly helpful, but I'd say kind of marginal, as kind of was noted. And as we know, there are gating criteria that, you know, franchisees like us will have to meet. And we're kind of, you know, I think like us, you know, franchises will have to evaluate feasibility and timing to achieve, you know, the potential of the benefits that they're giving. So we expect it to evolve over time. I mean, clearly Hilton is looking at ways to address owner profitability, and we certainly appreciate their focus. We believe and expect that this is one of many ways to do that, and they're certainly working to identify the ways to improve the operating model and owning profitability.

Patrick, if I could just add a couple points. Listen, I think it's good that the owner community is fully engaged with the leading brands and looking at ways to candidly Reshape the operating model and improve the economics. I think there's no secret. Owners have had a tougher run the last five, six years. And the fact that we're engaged at the table, that we're looking at whether it's through AI initiatives, whether it's through the RISE program or Marriott's equivalent, all of that makes sense. But at the end of the day, their business models don't work unless they have a very active, engaged, and successful owner community. And we've got to figure out a way for margins to improve and for cash flows to grow. And I'm glad that the brands are committed in my view to that discussion. And I know that business leaders, the men and women that run, whether they're public or private companies, and are all looking at figuring out ways to reshape that operating model. So it's a positive, and I think it really goes beyond just the RISE program.

Thank you. I recall from a lodging conference a year or two ago, I think the quote was, asset light doesn't work if asset heavy doesn't either. So I think that's another way of saying it.

You said it better, but same outcome.

Yes.

Same outcome. So thank you.

Thank you. All right.

And our next question will come from David Katz with Jefferies.

Hey, David. Hey. Morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. You know, just a general unspecific answer I'm looking for. Clearly, your stock, the others of your peers, for the most part, are up a lot the last 12 months. And I always respect the notion that management teams feel like their stock should be higher, even if they're up a lot. But do you contemplate the notion of Using that upside that has come your way, we've only talked about non-core asset sales, but is there a way for you, generally speaking, to play offense with that improved stock price, albeit still a little below, if you could make leverage lower or something like that?

David, I appreciate the question. I think you and I have had this dialogue for many years. And listen, nothing would make this team happier. We have obviously played defense. I think we've played it effectively. I think we've reshaped the portfolio. And I think we've done it as well as anyone could, given the facts and circumstances. So we've intentionally been shrinking the company, getting it down to our core portfolio, because that's where the real value is. The hope and expectation of obviously reinvesting in our core portfolio that we believe we can generate outsized returns and higher returns on the development side than we can on the acquisition front. We still believe that. I think the facts would support that. And the hope is that as the company continues to re-rate, we can get the multiple up and get our cost of capital down. And we would be very interested in certainly looking for those unique opportunities We're not alone in that, and certainly as you think about luxury and leisure in particular, it's very competitive out there. But I think in the meantime, you know, what we're doing and the blocking and tackling and the kind of results that we're generating in Orlando and Hawaii and Key West, I think, really speak for themselves. And I think Santa Barbara, and you'll continue to see us anchored and focused on reshaping and with the expectation that we'll be able to go on offense. Now, is that 26, 27? It's coming, and we look forward to those days.

If I may just follow up, I want to just, you know, nothing is ever absolute, but it sounds as though, you know, the notion of, you know, just using whatever stock, just to reduce your leverage is not something that's high on the consideration list.

I wouldn't say that, David. I think, as we've said on the non-core, our priority is taking those proceeds, reinvesting with our transformative ROI projects, and we've identified those that we think have the greatest potential, and Leahy will be sort of next in the queue, and obviously taking excess proceeds and and paying down debt. And the other way to reduce debt and reduce net debt to EBITDA is continuing to grow EBITDA. And as Sean pointed out in his prepared remarks, I mean, you know, we've done that two-tenths of a turn. But the reality is to continue to execute. And I would put our performance up against anybody else in what we've been doing across the board. We've been consistent in our messaging and we've been executing and really focused on the things that we control.

And our next question will come from Chris Woronka with Deutsche Bank.

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Morning. You know, Tom, as I look at your kind of first half performance, it kind of strikes me that I think, you know, two markets are spot on half of your EBITDA, four hotels. Now, that doesn't include Miami, so change things a little bit later, but And you said, you know, you said, hey, not seeing a lot of acquisition opportunity right now, reinvest in hotels. So the question is, you know, is diversification, do you think you need to do it or want to do it? And that seems like the only near term option would be to maybe sell a portion, like a joint venture or some of those more chunkier assets. So is there any thought to that or how important is kind of, you know, expanding the The markets diversification. Thanks.

Sure. It's always in a perfect world, Chris. You'd certainly want more diversification. But if I could, we could just back up for a second. If you think about where we're getting outsized returns, and if you think about Hawaii, obviously the forecast for Miami, I think the facts will show that here in short order. If you look at Key West, if you look at Orlando, If you look at Santa Barbara, I mean, that's probably north of 60, 65% of EBITDA, all growth markets. So sure, would we like Hawaii in a perfect world to be less than where it is today? But it's fee-simple real estate, huge, huge moat, very difficult to replicate what we have and near impossible from that standpoint. So we like our positioning from that standpoint. As the stock re-rates and the cost of capital comes down, we certainly will look for other opportunities, but we like our positioning right now as we look out.

Okay, understood. Thanks, Tom. And just a quick follow-up. Is the W in South Beach going over to Hilton and Waldorf? Does that at all change your underwriting, I guess, for the better at Royal Palms since you lose a Marriott competitor, basically?

Yeah, I think incrementally it helps from that standpoint, but I'm excited for Hilton and getting the Waldorf down there. I think that's great for the sub-market. We know Miami pretty well, and there's a lot of luxury product, and I think adding Waldorf to the mix will be great. We can't wait to show the investor community Royal Palm and the transformation that's occurred there. It is to steal the A phrase from an executive at Marriott, stunning, and we are very, very proud of it and well positioned in the future there.

And we'll go next to Robin Farley with UBS.

Great, thank you. Kind of a longer term question here. You have pretty staged growth in the next 24 months with a lot of these renovations coming on. I guess maybe what time frame should we expect for kind of news about like your next projects? Could that be as soon as this year or not necessarily something that you would be announcing that soon?

We've tried, Robin, to be very proactive. And I think as Sean mentioned, obviously, we've ramped up a little more in the CapEx the last few years, all intentional. We would probably get back to what we would call sort of a normal run rate. Alehi makes sense. As I mentioned, I think Santa Barbara is another asset that we would certainly huddle with our partner, but we think there's the opportunity to really sort of take that up to the next level, and we think that certainly the returns would generate that. But we're very thoughtful. We tend to study the situations very carefully, both the scope, the timing, the process, and minimizing the amount of disruption. There are some cases like Miami where it was so complex in three buildings where we ended up having to close the hotel. But if you think about Alihi, obviously we're gonna close that hotel while we keep the full campus up and running and operating. So the team is experienced, it's seasoned and I think we've got a demonstrated track record that respectfully is really the best in the sector.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

And moving next to Rich Hightower with Barclays.

Hey guys, good afternoon. Hey Tom. I guess maybe just to repackage some of the prior lines of questioning. But Don, you did mention that the, I guess the private market bid for luxury and leisure is still fairly competitive, certainly relative to kind of what else exists in hotels. And so maybe tell us what you're seeing in general terms there. And then as a second part of that, is there any structural impediment to monetizing at some point, even one of the core hotels Given the strength of that private market bid, if that is indeed the case.

Yeah, Richard, we've always said that the team is not entrenched, and we're going to do what's in shareholders' best interest. We do get occasional call about Hawaii. It's complicated to do a joint venture. Not impossible, but complicated. And generally, the response has been, if you want to buy Hawaii, buy the company. and I repeat the statement that management nor the board are entrenched here. But we will continue to look. I think we're all curious to see the former strategic portfolio is being marketed. I think it'll be interesting to see the pricing and how that unfolds and we'll see what comes out of that. But if that's a very healthy process and there's a lot of capital chasing, that's good for the sector. I think price discovery is a wonderful thing and it may lead to other deals with other participants in our sector. So we're excited to continue to watch and observe and see how that unfolds. We're not directly participating at this time. Hopefully you've known Rich if you've looked at our portfolio or performance, you've looked at our messaging. I think it speaks for itself in how the Park Team is performing vis-a-vis what we've communicated.

And our next question will come from Jack Armstrong with Wells Fargo.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Can you talk through the operating expense expectations coming up 50 basis points relative to REVPAR 225 for the full year? What were some of the expense controls that brought you to that result? And can you talk through some of the changes in those expense components versus your prior expectations?

Hey, Jack. How are you doing, Sean? I mean, look, I think as we think through the – we certainly passed through what we saw in Q2 fundamentally on the expense side, which was the biggest driver was really the odd gains that we saw. I mean, occupancy was about two-thirds at least of the REVPAR growth and about 75% of the year-to-date growth. So with a backdrop of about 2% growth on a cost-per-occupied room basis, we certainly saw a little bit of elevated expense there along with the elevated REVPAR. I mean, given this, though, we were pretty pleased with the flow-through as we look at comparisons to the prior forecast with, you know, flow-through for rooms, you know, greater than 70%, and F&B was really strong at 65%. So I think, you know, year-to-date increase in, you know, thus far for expenses about the midpoint of our guide, and that certainly leads to the back half being around the same amount, you know, kind of midpoint of that 3% to 4%. I would say, though, in the back half, I think by the back half, you know, included in that is about 120 basis point contribution from Royal Palm as it ramps back up. And it obviously, you know, brings on operating expenses above the carry that we had, just the basic carry we had last year. So overall, I think we've been pleased. I think certainly it comes as you see some of these things come through. Always a focus on cost controls with the managers. They did a pretty good job. But in the end, You're going to have more occupancy, more heads and beds. You're going to see certainly more labor come. And we know that labor is certainly in that 4% to 5% kind of growth range. So kind of managing through that, I think they did a pretty effective job with flow through. And we certainly expect them to continue to do that.

And we'll go next to Michael Herring with Green Street Capital.

Hi, thanks for taking my question. Just to follow up on Bonnet Creek, you know, obviously mentioning that the Red Bar Index share has been pretty strong there. Are there any external factors such as competitive supply or, you know, other hotels in the market that were under renovation that, you know, might weigh on the near-term growth?

Not that we're aware of. We love our positioning at Bonnet Creek, and obviously it's a Competitive marketplace for sure. I'd also make, if you think about destinations, and people sometimes forget that Orlando is the most visited destination in the country. I think expected 77 to 79 million visitors this year alone. I think Vegas is around 45 million. I think New York is about 67 million plus or minus. So love our positioning there with the three assets that we have, particularly Bonnet Creek and The 220 million that we've put in, and as I mentioned earlier, what we've seen both in ramp-up, both in where EBITDA has gone, where we see market share. The irony is that market share, again, we're still not back to fair share given that competitive landscape. So we are very bullish that we think there's even additional upside there and are excited about the future for Bonnet Creek as we look to the future.

This now concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Tom Baltimore for closing comments.

We appreciate everybody, everyone's time today. We look forward to seeing many of you in upcoming conferences and we look forward to hosting you at Royal Palm and our investor tour in November. Safe travels.

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