Phillips 66

Q2 2023 Earnings Conference Call

8/2/2023

spk08: Hello and welcome to the second quarter 2023 Philips 66 earnings conference call. My name is Alex and I'll be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I'll now turn the call over to Jeff Detert, Vice President, Investor Relations. Jeff, you may begin.
spk12: Good morning and welcome to Phillips 66 second quarter earnings conference call. Participants on today's call will include Mark Lazor, President and CEO, Kevin Mitchell, CFO, Tim Roberts, Midstream and Chemicals, Rich Harbison, Refining, and Brian Mandel, Marketing and Commercial. Today's presentation material can be found on the investor relations section of the Phillips 66 website. along with supplemental financial and operating information. Slide 2 contains our safe harbor statement. We will be making forward-looking statements during today's call. Actual results may differ materially from today's comments. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are included here, as well as in our SEC filings. With that, I'll turn it over to Mark.
spk02: Thanks, Jeff. Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. In the second quarter, we had adjusted earnings of $1.8 billion, or $3.87 per share. We continued to execute on our strategic priorities and returned $1.8 billion to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends. Our results reflect strong operating performance across our portfolio, demonstrating the commitment of our employees to maintain safe and reliable operations. We want to thank them for their dedication to operating excellence and delivering on our mission provide energy and improve lives. In refining, we continued to run above industry average rates, and in midstream, we had record NGL frac volumes. We continued to run our Sweeney Hub fracs and export terminal at above nameplate capacities to meet strong demand. We remain committed to operating excellence and continue to focus on our strategic priorities to create value and return cash to shareholders. Slide 4 summarizes progress toward our strategic priorities. Over the last 12 months, we've returned 14% of our market cap, or $5.4 billion, to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends. We're on track to return $10 to $12 billion over the 10-quarter period between July 2022 through year-end 2024. In refining, we had another quarter of strong operating performance with crude utilization of 93%, and lower operating costs. As at the end of the quarter, more than $300 million of the $550 million run rate cost savings are attributable to refining. Kevin will provide an update on our business transformation progress in a moment. We're executing our NGO well head-to-market strategy and capturing DCP integration synergies faster than expected. Our current synergy run rate is over $200 million. We've been successful in identifying additional opportunities to increase our target from $300 million to more than $400 million by 2025. In June, we completed the acquisition of DCP Midstream's public common units for $3.8 billion, increasing our economic interest from 43% to 87%. We ended the quarter with a net debt-to-capital ratio of 35%. We expect leverage to be within our target range by year-end. In refining, we're converting our San Francisco refinery into one of the world's largest renewable fuels facilities. The capital to convert the facility to over 50,000 barrels per day of renewable fuels production is anticipated to be approximately $1.25 billion. This is an increase from our original premise due to higher than anticipated material and labor costs, as well as impacts related to weather and permitting. The revised capital cost of around $1.60 per gallon remains well below similar announced projects, and the expected returns are significantly above our refining hurdle rates. The overall project timing and scope remains unchanged. We expect to begin commercial operations in the first quarter of 2024. In chemicals, CP Chem completed construction of the one hexing unit in Old Ocean, Texas, and expects to begin operations by the end of the third quarter. The new propylene splitter at its Cedar Bayou facility is expected to start up in the fourth quarter. CP Chem and Qatar Energy are jointly building world-scale petrochemical facilities on the U.S. Gulf Coast and in Ras Laffan, Qatar. On the U.S. Gulf Coast, the Golden Triangle Polymers joint venture has project financing in place. The Ras Laffan petrochemical joint venture expects to complete project financing later this year. Both projects remain on schedule to start up in 2026. Now I'll turn the call over to Kevin to review the business transformation savings and second quarter financial results.
spk04: Thank you, Mark. Starting on slide five with an update on our business transformation progress. Our $1 billion business transformation target includes $800 million of cost savings and $200 million of sustaining capital reductions. We have identified over 2,700 initiatives to permanently reduce costs, with employees across the organization actively engaged in the transformation process. We have completed 1,200 initiatives that are generating value today. The chart on the left shows our progress toward the $800 million cost reduction target, with $550 million of run rate cost savings at the end of the second quarter. The stacked bar shows our actual cumulative cost reductions for the year by category. Over the first half of 2023, we realized $260 million in cost savings. The majority of these cost reductions relate to refining, which has benefited by about 40 cents per barrel. Business transformation initiatives range from optimizing services across our portfolio of assets to establishing new tools to improve use of steam and energy. Organizationally, We strengthened our centralized model for core functions to drive consistency and efficiencies. We continue implementing cost savings initiatives and are on track to achieve our run rate target by year end 2023. We expect to realize the full $800 million of cost savings in 2024, which will include refining cost reductions of 75 cents per barrel. Now I'll move to slide six to cover the second quarter financial results. Adjusted earnings were $1.8 billion, or $3.87 per share. The $15 million decrease in the fair value of our investment in Devonix reduced earnings per share by 3 cents. We generated operating cash flow of $1 billion, including a working capital use of $1 billion and cash distributions from equity affiliates of $239 million. Capital spending for the quarter was $551 million, including $339 million for growth projects. We returned $1.8 billion to shareholders through $1.3 billion of share repurchases and $474 million of dividends. We ended the quarter with 445 million shares outstanding. I'll cover the segment results on slide seven. Additional details can be referenced in the appendix to this presentation. This slide highlights the change in adjusted results by segment from the first quarter to the second quarter. During the period, adjusted earnings decreased $199 million, mostly due to lower results in refining and midstream, partially offset by an improvement in marketing and specialties. In midstream, second quarter adjusted pre-tax income was $626 million, down $52 million from the prior quarter. The decrease was driven by the impact of declining commodity prices in our NGL business. This was partially offset by higher volumes in transportation. Chemicals adjusted pre-tax income decreased $6 million to $192 million in the second quarter. The industry polyethylene chain margin increased by $0.03 to $0.20 per pound. However, this was offset by higher maintenance and turnaround costs in the quarter. Global O&P utilization was 98%. refining second quarter adjusted pre-tax income was $1.1 billion, down $460 million from the first quarter. The decrease was due to a decline in margins, partially offset by higher volumes and lower operating expenses. Realized margins decreased primarily due to the decline in distillate crack spreads and narrowing heavy crude differentials, partially offset by improved gasoline cracks. In addition, realized margins reflect the impact of losses from secondary products due to declining NGL and Coke prices. Marketing and Specialties adjusted second quarter pre-tax income with $644 million, an increase of $218 million from the previous quarter, mainly due to seasonally higher global marketing margins on continued strong demand. The corporate and other segments adjusted pre-tax costs with $12 million lower than the prior quarter. The adjusted effective tax rate was 22% consistent with the previous quarter. The impact of non-controlling interests was improved compared to the prior quarter and also reflects our acquisition of DCP units on June 15th. Slide 13 shows the change in cash during the second quarter. We started the quarter with a $7 billion cash balance. Cash from operations was $2 billion, excluding working capital. There was a working capital use of $1 billion, mainly reflecting an increase in inventory, which included the impact of unplanned downtime at the Bayway refinery and seasonal storage opportunities. Year-to-date working capital is a use of around $2 billion, primarily related to inventory, that we expect to mostly reverse by year-end. We funded $551 million of capital spending. In June, we drew $1.25 billion on a single-draw term loan partially fund the acquisition of the DCP units for $3.8 billion. This transaction and the redemption of DCP's Series B preferred units of $161 million are represented as repurchase of non-controlling interests. Additionally, we returned $1.8 billion to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends. Our ending cash balance was $3 billion. This concludes my review of the financial and operating results. Next, I'll cover a few outlook items. In chemicals, we expect the third quarter global O&P utilization rate to be in the mid-90s. In refining, we expect the third quarter worldwide crude utilization rate to be in the mid-90s and turnaround expenses to be between $110 and $130 million. We anticipate third quarter corporate and other costs to come in between $280 and $300 million. reflecting higher net interest expense from funding the purchase of DCP units during the second quarter. In 2023, we expect our full-year capital spend to be above the $2 billion budget, reflecting approximately $200 million of additional spending on Rodeo Renewed. In addition, we just closed on a $260 million acquisition of West Coast Marketing Assets. This acquisition supports the high-return Rodeo Renewed project by optimizing the full value of our renewable fuel sales to end customers. We continue to review our portfolio to determine if assets meet our strategic, long-term objectives, or if they provide more value to third parties. Earlier this year, we divested the Belle Chase terminal, and very recently, we sold our interest in the South Texas Gateway terminal. Total proceeds from the two transactions are approximately $350 million. Now we will open the line for questions. after which Mark will make closing comments. Thank you.
spk08: We will now begin the question and answer session. As we open the call for questions, as a courtesy to all participants, please limit yourself to one question and a follow-up. If you have a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you wish to be removed from the queue, please press star then the number two. If you are using a speakerphone, you may need to pick up the handset first before pressing the numbers. Again, if you have a question, please press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Our first question for today comes from Doug Leggett of Bank of America. Doug, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk03: Thank you. I appreciate you all taking my questions. I'm not sure who wants to answer this, maybe Kevin, but we've obviously talked ad nauseum about what we think could be a new mid-cycle refining outlook, but What we haven't taken into account is the continued upgrade to your synergy targets, the faster delivery of your cost reductions, and more importantly, the continued appearance of deferred taxes in your operating cash flow. So, Kevin, I guess my somewhat convoluted question is, what do you think your sustainable mid-cycle free cash flow looks like for the company post these recent series of changes that you've introduced?
spk04: Yeah, Doug. So we had guided to $7 billion, increasing to $10 billion at investor day of cash flow. And the reality is some of the actions that bridge us from $7 billion to $10 billion, we have executed on. And so at this point in time, on a traditional, our view of refining mid-cycle, we're probably somewhere in the $8 billion range, maybe a little bit higher than that. But we're not all the way to 10 because there are still other things we need to execute on. But we're certainly making good progress from the 7 to 10. Your comment on deferred taxes is a relevant one. This year, we actually expect to have a slightly larger than normal deferred tax benefit on cash flow. So I think I had previously guided to about $400 million to $500 million of benefit for the year. We expect that to be more like $700 million to $800 million, and that's mainly because of the impact of BCP buy-in on that. And after that, we should revert to a more traditional sort of $400 million to $500 million level.
spk03: Just to be clear, you have not changed your view of mid-cycle margins. Is that right?
spk04: That is correct. We have not changed our view of mid-cycle, but we would acknowledge that we are in a stronger than mid-cycle margin environment currently. We have been for the last year and a year plus, year and a half. And barring any major economic downturn, we actually think that will continue for a reasonable period of time, just given the overall supply demand balances that exist globally.
spk03: Okay, thank you for that. My follow-up, just a quick one. The step up in the buyback pace, is that a transitory, you know, perhaps as a consequence of the DCP process? I'm not quite sure what other things might have delayed you, but I guess my point is that if I look to the $5 to $7 billion buyback guidance you gave through 2024, two things come to mind, which is, well, it seems to us you could maintain an elevated pace and certainly a pace well beyond 2024. So I wonder if you could just touch on the cash return strategy, and I'll leave it there. Thanks.
spk04: Yeah, I think that's right. I mean, as you know, we have been, other than during the COVID period, we've been consistently buying back shares since really 2012 when we started the program. The elevated pace in the second quarter was not so much an impact of the DCP transaction, more it was a function of we recognized that relative to our share price at the time and our outlook, which was quite positive in terms of the overall business fundamentals, it seemed like a good opportunity to up the pace from where we had been. And based on where things sit today, it looks like a good decision on our part. The $5 billion to $7 billion that we guided at Investor Day, that's a sort of minimum threshold that we expect to meet It doesn't mean to say we can't either hit that total return 10 to 12 billion before the end of 2024. And it certainly does not mean that we stop once we hit that threshold either. And so I'd go back to our normal traditional sort of guidance of at least 40% of cash flow returned to shareholders through the dividend and buybacks. Helpful. Thanks. I appreciate the answers.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question comes from Neil Mehta of Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk05: Yeah, thank you. I want to stay on the topic of capital structure. The net debt to capital, as you guys indicated, kind of picked up to 35%, but you indicated that you expect it to move lower by year end. Talk about some of the things that are moving back into your favor in addition to the strong margin environment working capital or other items that we need to keep in mind, and how should we think about exit rate for that metric?
spk04: Yeah, Neil, and I think we had given guidance that we expected our debt to cap to increase once we completed the buy-in of the DCP units, and so it wasn't a surprise to us where we landed on that number. The two big drivers that will bring that back between now and the end of the year are what you pointed to, Working capital, so that's about $2 billion inflow in cash that we expect to see between now and the end of the year. And then also just the ongoing ability to generate earnings, generate strong earnings and build equity. So on our math, we think we end the year at right around the 30% level. So the top end of the range, but nonetheless, still within that overall target range. Obviously, this thing will move around quarter over quarter, depending on what's going on. terms of market environment and cash items like working capital but fundamentally we think we're on a reasonable trajectory to be able to sustain in that target range yeah thanks thanks kevin and then the follow-up is just on rodeo renewed some change it sounds like in the capital scope here just can you walk us through the drivers of those changes and then
spk05: As we think about against the capital, the type of EBITDA that you can generate from the asset, how has your view of mid-cycle from that asset evolved as you spend more time on the project? Thank you.
spk02: Yeah, Neil, it's Mark. I'll cover it at a high level and Rich can drill in a little bit, but essentially what we've experienced there as we commence the project execution, we had a lot of heavy rainfall, and of course, even the start of the project was deferred a little bit because of permitting challenges, and we believe, we recognize that the earnings from this are going to far exceed the earnings we realized today from the San Francisco refinery, so we wanted to stick to the schedule, so we incurred some more cost to compensate for the productivity loss during bad weather and delays around permitting. We also saw some inflation when this project was sanctioned. The big run up inflationary pressures hadn't hit yet. And so we realized that really is the only project in our purview where we're seeing that kind of impact or haven't accounted for the inflation at sanctions. So we're having to take care of that. So we still look at that $1.60 a gallon as incredibly competitive. The overall competitiveness of the asset is strong. The location, We've got competitive advantage. The pull through with our retail presence is a competitive advantage. And as you look at, as we bring this facility online, we're taking off almost as much traditional diesel as we're bringing in renewable diesel to the market. So the market disruption will be minimal. So we really are bullish around this project. And we see that the economics are still very robust in spite of the cost increases. Rich, do you want to go a little deeper?
spk17: Yeah, I think you covered most of that, Mark. Maybe I can add just a little bit of color to it. As we talked about, the primary drivers for the increase were material and labor costs. And when you think about the timing of this project, it was estimated and approved prior to the heavy inflationary period. So we're realizing that inflationary pressure that's occurred over the duration of the development of the project. Half of those costs we'll experience this year. The other half will flow into next year's capital allocation. You know, as Mark indicated, the project is still very capital efficient at $1.60 a gallon, and we're very happy with that. And that is very competitive versus other announced projects. And we continue to work full steam ahead on the construction, and it remains on track for commercial operation in first quarter 2024. Now, I know there's been a lot of focus around the lower LCFS credits over the recent change, but the reality of this, the economics around this project are centered around four programs, as well as the retail price of diesel in the state of California and other markets that recognize renewable diesel. And those programs, two are federal and two are at the state level. All of these seem to be working interrelationally with each other as well as impacting the feedstock cost as well. So when we look at the overall momentum and movement of all this interrelationship, we still see very strong economics for the project and continue to be very optimistic about the EBITDA returns on it.
spk02: And when you look at those increases across 23 and 24, it will require a modest increase in our capital. uh target of two billion dollars for this year but we will manage that additional cost within our two billion target going forward in 2024. thanks thanks everyone thank you our next question comes from roger reed of wells fargo your line is now open please go ahead
spk07: Yeah, thank you. Good morning. I was hoping to follow up on the DCP transaction, just how that's gone so far. And while I understand you've raised the, I guess we would call it cost savings, another part of this transaction was on the revenue synergy side, building a truly integrated model. So I was just curious what you've seen to date, what you maybe expect in the near term on that, or maybe even the medium term on that in terms of how the transaction comes together as a seamless organization.
spk11: Yeah, that's, you know, Roger, this is Tim. Thanks for the question. Hey, you know, we've started working on this as soon as we closed the initial part of the transaction last year. So we got the integration teams together. At the beginning of this, you know, back in the fall of last year, we thought we had line of sight of $300 million that we could get full value for all the way through the first quarter of 2025. And that's when some contracts were rolling off that were going to third parties and we could bring them into our system. So, but most of that we felt would be captured by 2024. Well, as we dug in and we've got the teams involved, engaged, everybody's working together, Now the employees have done a really good job of digging deeper and finding a couple more gems in there. So now that's where we're comfortable talking about an increase going to 400 million. And I'm actually hoping at some point I can give you, you know, more upside to that as we continue to dig, because this integration is going to continue through the first quarter of 2024. The big driver right now, the teams are working together commercially. And probably worth setting a tone there is that early when we had a $300 million number, one-third was based on cost two-thirds on commercial we'll call it system optimization but as we dug in and we've got to the 400 million number now that is more 50 50 on costs we found more in our procurement more in our maintenance more in our operations and then so 50 on cost and now 50 on again system optimization and commercial activities so that's kind of the breakdown And the real driver right now for us through the first quarter of 2024 is systems integration. So a lot of good work being done by the team, but it just takes time and you got to get it right. So we are spending the time to do that and we'll be done by the end of the first quarter. And then we'll be in what I consider a normal operation, steady state mode with regard to how we run as a business.
spk02: Yeah, I'd just like to come in a little bit on that, the integration impact. This really is, a clear indication of how well the teams are integrating, the DCP team, the Phillips 66 teams coming together. And as Tim noted, once we had operational control of the entity after the Enbridge transaction, we were able to really hit the ground running and start executing against our targets. And getting these teams integrated, one team, one culture, taking the best of the best and driving this, this is really the biggest visible measure of how successful that's been. We see those numbers move up and we see teams excited about the future and looking at ways to capture more value, both from a cost perspective and a commercial perspective. And so this is going to be what they are and what they do from this point forward.
spk07: Yeah, thanks for that. And then the unrelated follow-up is to come back to the $0.40 a barrel of refining and margin cash OPEX savings, the goal to get to $0.75. Can you give us an idea of, I mean, I know you mentioned, you know, steam cost reductions, things like that, but like, what is this process allowing you to do it? Is it a, you know, best practices in one location being expanded, an overall centralized look at the cost structure? Just, you know, it's a very impressive number. It's certainly sustainable. It adds up over time. And so I'm just curious, you know, kind of, Where do you start? How did you get here? You know, how how confident are you in the seventy five cents on the timeline that you've said?
spk17: Yeah, Roger, this rich, you know, we're well on our way, as you indicated, to our seventy five cent per barrel savings target that we announced or committed to during the investor day last November. And you know, what's most exciting about this whole process for me has really been how the organization the entire organization is engaged in this process. So, yeah, there is some oversharing site to site of activity and best practices, but most of this activity is opportunities identified by that local organization, really accepting the challenge to improve the business, and they're uncovering these opportunities to be more efficient in their work process, right? and then fundamentally changing how that work process is occurring to drive inefficiencies out of the business, which ultimately reduce costs out of the business. So if you think about, we talked about 40 cents a barrel already year to date. That's calculated by, if you take our barrels that we've run year to date and calculate to the 40 cents, you can back into the number that we're seeing drive to the bottom line of our financial report there. And that's been quite impressive. And we've got a lot more in the queue, as Mark indicated on his comments, with the run rate. You know, our target is 550. Over 300 of that is currently assigned to refining. And, of course, the run rate doesn't mean it's realized, right? But that just means it's identified, it's locked in, And now we've got to drive it to the bottom line, and that's what's most impressive about the organization, really pushing to get these identified opportunities pushed to the bottom line.
spk02: Yeah, and if you see some commonalities between the mindset in our refinery organization and the midstream organization, it's real. And this business transformation process, it's easy to talk about the cost impact, and it's easy to have those cost targets, but really the most phenomenal thing going on is the mindset change and the drive that we see in the employees to get better at what they do every day. And you're seeing that move on from cost focus to just where do we create the most value? How do we create the most value together? Whether it's the way we've organized and integrated our value chain optimization organization more synergistically across the refineries, having VCO folks sitting on the refinery leadership team, every day searching for ways to optimize and coordinate with other refineries. It's real. And that mindset is that drive that's going to make these cost savings and the synergy capture sustainable for the long term. And it's just not going to end. It's just going to be the way we do business going forward.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question comes from John Royal of J.P. Morgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk13: Hi, thanks for taking my question. So my first question is on the Bayway FCC. I think your last official statement was around mid-July for the restart. We saw reports after that that it was end of July. I'm not sure if that's been confirmed. So if you can just update us on the status of the unit and when you expect it up and running full if it's not now.
spk17: Hey, John, this is Rich. FCC repairs were complete and the unit is up and running as of July 20th. That's the actual date that it was back online producing on specification material. The refinery itself is back to normal operation. So all the units and all the assets there are running to our plan. The Bayway team did a phenomenal job getting that repair work done very efficiently. Very excited about how they they performed to complete that work. And additionally, you know, when Mark's just talking about, you know, this mindset activity, we saw other parts of our organization also really focused to help pick up our teammates that were struggling a little bit in Bayway. And we saw phenomenal performance in our refineries in Sweeney, Hawker City, and Billings. They each had record performance. as well as our assets on the West Coast. And it all ended up in a system-wide utilization of 93%, which is our highest crude utilization since 2019. And we're looking forward to building on this momentum and continuing that into the third quarter.
spk13: Great. Thanks for the update. And then I know it's early on, but maybe sticking with refining, you could give us possibly some expectations on some puts and takes around captures for 3Q. And then, relatedly, maybe you can weave in your view on WCS diffs from here. You know, we've widened out a fair amount off of bottoms, but still look very tight. So, any views there into 2H would be helpful.
spk15: Hey, there. It's Brian. Maybe I'll just talk about product demand, give you a sense of what we're thinking for Q3. The strength in U.S. products basically starts with low inventories. Gasoline, we're under five-year averages by 7%. Disolate, we're under averages, five-year averages by 19%. That's a lot. We have a lot of new capacity coming online in the U.S., but we've had even more outages than the new capacity. For us, we're seeing gasoline demand up about 2% over last year in the U.S. and about 4% globally, so that's strong demand. On distillate, we have the demand down a bit in the U.S., mostly on industrial manufacturing segments. But globally, we have it up. We have lots of pockets of really strong distillate demand. Latin America up 9%, Asia up 4%. And diesel cracks continue to remain strong. In fact, they've gotten a lot stronger. And we believe that they'll continue to perform throughout the year as we head into higher demand planting season and into winter. In the U.S., we're distillate over gasoline in every pad now. And then finally on jets, jets also strong, low inventories, increasing domestic and international travels. Global seat demand is essentially flat to 2019 levels. TSA throughput numbers in the U.S. are flat to 2019 levels. And interestingly, U.S. jet yields remain a little bit higher, so that should add some marginal strength to diesel. And then on the WCS, you're right, WCS has started to widen again, which is in our best interest here. We buy the most WCS of, I think, anybody there is. And we've seen the widening mostly because of heavy crude diffs in general have started to widen. We also see fall turnarounds in Pad 2 as being very strong. And then if you'll remember in September, which next month we'll start to see billion blending, which will swell the volume of Canadian crude. So all those things have been putting pressure and widening the diffs to our advantage.
spk08: Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Ryan Todd of Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk16: Thanks. I know we don't often talk that much about marketing, but your marketing business, as it continues to generally kind of exceed expectations on a regular basis, I think, you know, first half contributions are fairly in line with last year's first half contributions, which was, you know, generally a higher than expected year in marketing. Is that business maybe structurally, just structurally stronger than we have appreciated and maybe you've got it to, or? What do you attribute kind of continued strength in the marketing side?
spk15: Hey, Ryan. This is Brian. Exceeding expectations is a good thing. We're happy about that. We did have a strong quarter in Q2. We've added a bunch of retail JVs since 2019. We're roughly at 750 retail stores, which have really performed well since we've added them, and certainly in 2Q. We had higher margins, as Kevin mentioned, in both the domestic markets and in our Western European business. We had U.S. volumes up a bit. And finally, in our lubricants business, the base oil business has been performing really well as the feedstock prices have been falling more than the base oil prices. So I tell you for Q3, when you're thinking about Q3, our earnings should be in line with our mid-cycle expectations, assuming the kind of normal seasonal demand.
spk02: Yeah, I would just come over again and compliment Brian and his marketing team on the execution of the strategy that they've held for several years is to go in and participate through these joint venture opportunities in markets that make sense for us, that we have a competitive advantage, that there's strength to capitalize on. And we don't go and do this everywhere. It's very surgical. It's very intentional. And it is exceeding expectations. So it's a well-executed strategy.
spk16: Great, thanks. And maybe just a quick follow-up on Rodeo and some of your comments from earlier. As we think about kind of the pathway from here until startup in first quarter of 24, are there any outstanding permits required, legal challenges that we should be looking at, or how do you view kind of potential risks that exist or things you're keeping an eye on between now and commercial startup there?
spk17: Yeah, Ryan, permitting to complete any project in California is very challenging. Projects even to convert a conventional crude oil facility refinery to a lower carbon intensity transportation fuel production facility. So we did recently receive news on an appeal to our environmental impact report that is the supporting document for permits. This was filed by a couple NGOs in the state. And the good news is the court ruling found several issues in the favor of Phillips 66. And notably, most notably, is the construction of the Rodeo Renew project can continue with the county work to resolve three issues. So we're working closely with the county and the courts to provide necessary information to reconsider the open issues, and we remain very confident that the Rodeo Renewed Project is on track to start commercial operation in first quarter 2024. Great.
spk16: Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Gabelman of Cohen. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hey. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to follow up on Ryan's question just now on marketing and the outlook for 3Q. There were reports of droughts in the Rhine River and I think typically when that happens you're positioned to supply that region well and take advantage of margin moves there. Have you seen any strength in 3Q, early 3Q as a result of those outages and would you expect as a result, continued outperformance in marketing and 3Q. And then conversely, what you're seeing on chems, we've seen chain margins fall into July. Just any views on the outlook there into 3Q and then beyond that when you expect chemical margins to move back to mid-cycle?
spk15: Hey, Jason, it's Brian. Hey, so far in Western Europe on the Rhine, we haven't seen water levels low enough to benefit us. It is true if water levels do get low, we benefit from that, but the water levels haven't gotten there yet. Can't really predict where they're going to go in Q3, but if they get lower, then we'll have some benefit.
spk11: Yeah, and with regard, this is Tim Roberts on this, with regard to chemicals, talk about currently where we're at with chain margins. Yeah, it's been an interesting run here. Obviously, you've got plenty of supply available and demand. They're not matching up. So therefore, you've seen chain margins have been dropping over the last several quarters. Where you're at right now, I think IHS had at about 12 cent chain margins. And really, the way we would look at this and look at it going forward is that the high-cost producers, both in Asia and those that are in Europe, they're going to set the price. Those that are in advantage feedstock locations will keep running and probably run hard, which is what we're seeing right now in North America and the Middle East, while those are having to shut in capacity or having to manage production or any other regions I mentioned earlier. Now, fundamentally, though, you've got to get demand and supply to match up, and you've got to start working off inventory. Ethylene inventories here in North America are above five-year average, so that's That's got a direction that needs to start working its way down. And you're seeing the same thing in polyethylene. So two of the main products that we see with regard to our CP Chem JV. However, we're running really strong here. Exports are strong as well with regard to in North America because you're advantaged on feedstock. So our outlook is that, yes, you've got to hit the bottom before you can start working your way back up. I can't say this is the inflection point, but cash costs typically will drive where you get to the bottom and then how soon you can accelerate. And usually, as we would say, and it goes in a lot of different directions, is low costs, low prices solve low prices. So fundamentally, we do think that the outlook is still going to be constructive, and constructive in that you've still got population growth, you still have economies that have not been churning at their all cylinders, China being one of them. And that's not a position of saying they never will. Not at all. We think there are still going to be good solid economic growth. You're just not seeing a consistent global. So we do anticipate that that will happen and that will help soak up some of the capacity that's out there, bring the markets back into balance, and you get back into more of a mid-cycle case.
spk01: Great. That's really helpful. And my follow-up is just on acquisitions and divestments. You've mentioned it at the top of the call that you continue to evaluate the portfolio as you look across the the various segments you operate in um any thoughts on on where maybe um you have non-core positions or or you have some portfolio gaps um and are you viewing the broader m a market thanks yeah i think that again as kevin mentioned earlier we we look across our portfolio and there's there's different
spk02: different dimensions across our portfolio where others may have some interest in our assets and may place a greater value because it's not strategic to us, and we'll continue to evaluate that. I wouldn't comment on any specific opportunities. And likewise, as we did with marketing in California, we made some relatively small acquisitions to enhance the opportunities around Rodeo once it's up and running, and we've done a series of those, and they're all doing quite well. And so we'll look at smaller opportunistic things. But you think about where we've come from. We've done some pretty significant transactions in midstream. It's time to digest those and to drive value through those. And if we can find some very accretive, small, midsize kinds of things, we'd look at them. But there's nothing in the queue and nothing that we'd want to comment on. We've got a great backbone there. And history has shown that a strong backbone in that industry can attract smaller investments that are quite attractive. So I think in terms of small, very creative, high return opportunities like we've done in marketing would be on our scale. But we're going to stick with our discipline approach going forward. We've got a commitment around $2 billion for 2024, and anything around that would be very disciplined and high return.
spk01: Great. Thanks for the call.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question comes from Manav Gupta of UBS. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk10: I want to start on the East Coast. That was like a 52 percent margin capture. That's a significant drop from the last quarter. Was it primarily the outage at Bayway? Can you talk about some of the factors that led to such a significant drop on the East Coast in margin capture?
spk17: Yeah, no, this is Rich. Over in that, what we refer to it as the Atlantic Basin, we did have higher volumes and lower costs due to less turnaround activity at Bayway quarter over quarter when you look at those. But a lot of those were offset by lower margins. The realized margin was lowered primarily due to a weaker market crack. Configuration impacts also played into this with the gasoline cracks increasing by $10 a barrel. And then the distillate crack decreasing by $18 a barrel. That played into the market capture quite a bit. And there was lower product, you know, lower product differentials there. And then the other one that goes a little bit unnoticed in this market is really the secondary product cost. and margins on those secondary products in both the ngls for both bayway and humber were lower and then the petroleum coke that sold out of humber also experienced lower product differentials so those are the primary reasons you saw lower market capture there in atlantic basin
spk10: Can you also talk a little bit about the TMX expansion? There's a lot of capacity coming on and moving the crew to the west coast starting next year. How would that change the WCSWTI differential outlook, in your opinion?
spk15: Hey, Manav, this is Brian. Well, first, I think our view is that TMX will probably come on later in the year, although line fill is forecasted for early Q1. I think the line will not be filled completely. That's our view. I think those are on the lines. I feel like some of those barrels will be exported to Asia. We'll see if that happens. It's hard to get VLCCs there. In fact, you can't load VLCCs. You have to load them ship to ship outside of LA. So we'll see what happens going forward. But certainly, it could be a benefit to the West Coast having more of that crude Thank you, guys.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question comes from Matthew Blair of Tudor Pickering Holt. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk14: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. On the midstream side, did Philips unwind any of the DCP NGL and NatGas hedges? And if so, could you quantify the impact? that flow through the midstream EBITDA in Q2?
spk04: Yeah, Matt. This is Kevin. We did unwound them or if we let them roll off, but we have less of that. We don't have that same hedging on our exposure to the NatGas, NGL commodity price that we have, the DCP has historically had. In our overall portfolio, and when you also factor in, our position in refining as a consumer of those products. It felt more appropriate just to let the natural offsets flow through. And so we have done that. I don't think we've given a number out there. Well, I know we haven't given any specific number out there. What we have done is updated the sensitivities for midstream to reflect the fact that those hedges are no longer in place. And so you see a slightly higher midstream sensitivity to the commodity price than before.
spk14: Okay. Sounds good. And then I don't know if I missed it, but did you give out a number for refined product exports in Q2? I think a year ago it was 153,000 barrels per day. How did it trend this year? And are you seeing a mixed shift with more barrels headed to Europe and fewer to Latin America?
spk15: This is Brian. Yeah, we exported over 200,000 barrels this quarter, which was up in large part. We were finally making some more higher sulfur diesel that we exported to Latin America. Like others have said, we have been exporting more distillate to Europe as trade flows from Russia change. And Russia is importing more barrels, particularly into Brazil, 120,000 to 140,000 barrels. And we're, the U.S., exporting more barrels to Europe.
spk14: Sounds good. Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question comes from Paul Chang of Scotiabank. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk09: Thank you. Good morning, guys. Good morning. I think this is for Mark. Mark, if we look at California, you still have the Carson and Wilmington that combined refinery. Today, probably 60% of the diesel in California being consumed by the renewable and biodiesel, and that in several years' time, it may end up to be 100%. So what's the role of that facility going to look like and how your configuration may need to change?
spk02: Yeah, I'll help cover that at a high level. Paul, I think Brian has some views on what's going on there as well. I think at one end of the spectrum, we're well connected to LAX from that facility, and JET is a big opportunity there. And we would certainly look at doing what we could to provide more JET. I think that One mitigant of that is as we take the San Francisco refinery offline, that diesel production will go away and leave the market, and it's almost a gallon-for-gallon replacement with renewable diesel. So that is an opportunity there as well. And so I think that there are exports from California today, and Brian can comment further on that, but that's an opportunity to balance things out.
spk15: Paul, I would add the best amount of distillate produced in L.A. is actually exported by pipeline to neighboring states. So we don't make a lot of California distillate at that refinery. So that is for us at least a non-issue.
spk09: Okay. So you think that and do you think that on the longer term basis that that should be part of your portfolio or given the political environment and everything that that may, I mean, is there any plan that to do something with the asset like what you have done to Waddell?
spk02: Well, you know, Paul, we're looking at everything we can do to keep the L.A. refinery competitive in that environment. It is, frankly, a difficult environment and it's been very publicly, you know, politically challenging there, whether it's EV mandates, but we we believe that it's going to be challenging for California to implement their aspirations around EVs. So I think that may be overplayed, but we're watching the market's environment very carefully and doing everything that's in our control to keep the LA Refinery competitive and supplying products in that market.
spk09: Okay. A final one, I think this maybe is for either Rich or Calvin. When we look at your uh margin uh capture or that your margin realization in central corridor uh is actually doing better than we thought uh is there any one-off benefit that we see or is just normal market condition and that recovery from the uh downtime in the first quarter thank you hey paul that's rich i'll start it off here with an answer you know the central corridor um
spk17: You know, the primary reason that you're seeing these is really strong performance from our facilities there, specifically Ponca City and the Billings Refinery. Both of those facilities have been running very, very well over the last several quarters and continue to operate, exceeding expectations on utilization as well as clean product yield, which is improving the market capture there.
spk04: And just to clarify, it's not a function of one-off items that are benefiting. It is all operational, as Rich described.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question comes from Joe Leitch of Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk06: Great. Thanks for having me on. So I wanted to go back to a couple of topics we've already hit on, but first on chemicals. So with the two CP Chem projects starting up in the back half of the year, could you just give us a sense of earnings contribution and uplift probably in 2024 on a normalized margin environment from those two projects? Just how we should think about that.
spk11: Yeah, on that, Joe, probably to clarify, those projects aren't expected to start up until 2026. And so, you know, we still got a... Excuse me. Oh, you're on the Hexing units. Okay. So with regard to Hexing units, yeah, that one was completed. We're looking at that. My apologies, Sarah. I was thinking of the bigger projects. One Hexing's been completed down in Sweeney. They'll be in startup mode through the third quarter. Then you should probably start to see some level of earnings start to show up in the fourth quarter. The Splitter project, which is up at Cedar Bayou, that project also is in final completion at this point, or they're going to be ready to get everything completed by the end of sometime in the mid-fourth quarter. Excuse me. So You're really probably not going to see anything meaningful as they go through shaking out the units, getting them started up, and probably for both of them, you may be probably leaning more towards a early first quarter before something really starts to show up there.
spk02: Yeah, and CP Chem executed the hexene project and brought it in under budget as well, so I think that's notable in its environment.
spk06: Great, thanks. And then just going back to Rodeo, I know you all have talked about the potential to produce renewable jet fuel out of that facility as well. Could you just talk about any progress you've made there and any thoughts on timing when a decision could be made to produce SAF?
spk17: Yeah, this is Rich. The project as it's designed will be able to produce SAF. What's really missing from the whole equation is the market indicator to do that. As soon as that's in place, we will quickly shift to a renewable jet slash sustainable aviation fuel production. The facility will have the capability of producing 20,000 barrels a day of sustainable aviation fuel on the backbone of 10,000 barrels a day of renewable jet that's blended with traditional crude oil-based jet production.
spk02: Yeah, and that's not a... Saying a negative around SAF, we believe that SAF will be an important part of our path forward in renewable fuels. But today, at Rodeo, the economics favor renewable diesel, so we maximize renewable diesel. Produce some. There's some that you just will produce just because of the yields. But any additional investment to produce more SAF would require something that would incent us to divert away from renewable diesel into SAS.
spk17: And there is capability to invest and increase that production level.
spk02: Yeah.
spk06: Great. Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session, and I'll turn the call back over to Mark Glacier for closing remarks.
spk02: Thank you, Alex, and thanks to all of you for your questions. We delivered strong second quarter financial and operating results as we executed on our strategic priorities by focusing on the things we control, and most importantly, the commitments we made to our owners in November. We continued a healthy pace of returning cash to shareholders, and in refining, we had another quarter of strong operating performance with above industry average pre-utilization and lower operating costs. We're executing our midstream NGL well-head-to-market strategy and completed the buy-in of DCP's units and raised our synergy targets to over $400 million, wrapping up a series of foundational transactions to drive value creation in our NGOs business. We're realizing our business transformation initiatives and are on track to achieve at least a billion dollars of annual run rate savings by year end, while driving a transformative mindset across the enterprise. As we deliver on our strategic priorities, we remain committed to financial strength, disciplined capital allocation, and returning cash to shareholders. Outstanding operational performance will position us to capture the current strong market environment in the third quarter, and we look forward to operating you, updating you on our progress. Thank you all for your interest in Phillips 66.
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