7/23/2025

speaker
Dan
Investor Relations (Moderator)

Our expectations and beliefs regarding these matters may not materialize. Actual results and financial periods are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. There are risk factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the content of our forward-looking statement for the reasons that we cite in our shareholder letter, Form 10-K, and other SEC filings, including uncertainties posed by the difficulty in predicting future outcomes. Joining us today will be QuantumScape CEO, Dr. Siva Sivaram, and our CFO, Kevin Hetrick. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Siva.

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Thank you, Dan. Today, we announced an expansion of our existing collaboration and licensing agreement with Volkswagen Group's battery maker, Powerco. This upgraded deal sees Powerco contributing additional payments of up to $131 million to QS over the next two years to support our joint commercialization activities. These payments are connected with certain milestones to be achieved by the joint scale of D. The first milestones linked to expected payments of more than $10 million have already been achieved. These new payments are additional to the previously announced $130 million that will be due to QS upon satisfactory technical progress and execution of the full licensing agreement. As part of this upgraded deal, QS will prioritize the output of QSC5 cells from our San Jose pilot line to support our joint activities with Powerco. Though we maintain our non-exclusive arrangement and retain the right to provide cells to our other prospective customers. This expansion would allow PowerCore the right under the licensing agreement to produce up to an additional five gigawatt hours of QS cells annually, including for customers outside the Volkswagen Group for a total of up to 85 gigawatt hours. Powerco has also secured the future right to license certain advanced QS technology beyond our first-generation QSC5 platform. This upgraded Powerco deal with new cash payments of up to $131 million over two years clearly demonstrates the value of our solid-state lithium metal technology platform to the automotive sector. we are extending our cash runway forecast into 2029, a six month improvement relative to our previous guidance. Now, a word on our commercial engagement beyond PowerCore. We are happy to report that we have now entered into a joint development agreement with another major global automotive OEM. This JDA strengthens the collaboration beyond our initial sampling agreement with this customer, with the intent to work towards a commercialization and licensing deal. We continue to collaborate closely with existing and new customers, and we see market traction accelerating as these announcements provide commercial validation and increase urgency in the automotive space. With respect to our broader QS ecosystem, last quarter we announced an agreement with Murata Manufacturing to explore collaboration on ceramics production, and this effort is progressing well. Beyond their world-class ceramics expertise, Murata provides particular value as a highly respected partner in the Japanese market, where we see strong demand for solid-state batteries in automotive applications. Our Japanese subsidiary, QS Japan, is a valuable asset in demonstrating our technology leadership to this market. Now, an update on our annual goals. On June 24th, we announced the completion of our first of our annual goals. Our next generation COBRA process has replaced Raptor as our baseline separator production process. We expect this step change in efficiency and productivity will enable B1 sample shipments this year, and we will continuously improve all aspects of the COBRA process as we ramp production. To keep pace with this higher rate of separator production, we are installing higher volume cell production equipment, and we remain on schedule to meet this second 2025 goal. Production ramps are always challenging, And as we scale our cell production, we are focused on improving metrics such as cell reliability, process stability, and equipment uptime. Turning to our launch customer, in Q2, we shipped QSC5 cells for pack integration and testing, including safety testing. These cells were the final Raptor-based B0 samples to be shipped. Future shipments will be Cobra-based B1 samples, in line with our third annual goal. This launch program is designed to be a low volume, high visibility project that will allow us to put ourselves into a real world vehicle application and generate customer feedback. We continue to target 2026 for the beginning of field testing. Last, I want to address our strategic outlook. This quarter is a major inflection point in our journey, and we are now firmly in the commercialization phase of our company. We believe this expanded deal with Powerco is an unambiguous demonstration of both the economic value of our solid state platform and the power of our capital light business model. Under this model, we have the ability to monetize development activities early on and then collect licensing royalties as our customers ramp production volumes. We are just getting started. We have a long and deep relationship with additional auto OEMs, and we continue to see these engagements intensify as demonstrated by our new JDA with an existing automotive customer. We believe our technology platform has the potential to revolutionize the automotive industry as well as other rapidly emerging markets, amounting to a total addressable market in the hundreds of billions of dollars annually. The challenges of scaling production remain significant, and there is still much work left to do. But working together with our world-class partners, we believe we are closer than ever to achieving our long-term goals. With that, let me hand things over to Kevin for a word on our financial outlook.

speaker
Kevin Hetrick
CFO

Thank you, Siva. Capital expenditures in the second quarter were 8.3 million. Q2 CapEx primarily supported facilities and equipment purchases as we prepare for higher volume QSC5B1 sample production using the COBRA separator process. We narrow the range of our full year guidance for CapEx to be between $45 million and $65 million. We expect the second half of 2025 to see higher levels of CapEx investment relative to the first half of the year, consistent with our narrowed guidance. GAAP operating expenses and GAAP net loss in Q2 were $123.6 million and $114.7 million respectively. Adjusted EBITDA loss was $63 million in Q2 in line with expectations. The table reconciling gap net loss and adjusted EBITDA is available in the financial statement at the end of the shareholder letter. We continue to streamline operations in line with the company's capital licensing focus and capture gains from cost reduction initiatives and process improvement, including the COBRA process. We narrow the range of our full year guidance for adjusted EBITDA loss to be between 250 million and 270 million. The amended PowerCo collaboration agreement features payments up to 131 million over the next two years. Actual payments will be based on the scope of work and approved by the QS PowerCo Steering Committee. In Q3 2025, we expect to invoice PowerCo for more than $10 million for development work already performed by the joint team. We ended Q2 with $797.5 million in liquidity and, in light of the expanded Power Code deal and efforts to further streamline operations, extend our guidance for cash runway into 2029, a six-month improvement over our previous guidance. Any additional funds from other customer inflows or capital markets activity would further extend this cash runway. As always, we encourage investors to read more on our financial information, business outlook, and risk factors in our quarterly and annual SEC filings on our Investor Relations website, including today's Powerco Amendment Press Release and 8K with the redacted amendments.

speaker
Dan
Investor Relations (Moderator)

Thanks, Kevin. We'll begin today's Q&A portion with a few questions we received from investors or that I believe investors would be interested in. Siva, what is the significance of this expanded agreement with Powerco? How does this fit in with our licensing business model?

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Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Dan, building upon what we just announced, our vision for the business model provides two sources of cash inflows. On the front end, we will monetize development activities for our customers to tailor our core technology to meet their specific needs. Subsequently, as the customer ramps production, we realize royalties over the lifetime of the product. Some of these payments could take the form of licensing fees or royalty prepayments as in the power code deal. As we continue to develop further generations of our technology, we will maintain both lines of business to generate consistent and compelling cash flows. Payment for development activities has the benefit of being near-term. The royalty payments represent the majority of the value capture through a consistent long-term stream of high gross margin revenue. This business model is unlocked by our highly differentiated technology platform. This expanded power code deal is a validation of this vision with about a quarter of a billion dollars to bring this technology to market. This program will serve as a proof of concept of the QSC5 technology and support other programs targeting VW Group vehicle applications, such as vehicle demo fleet and other programs under the scope of the overall project covered by the collaboration agreement. The intention of the program is to leverage the combined expertise and resources of QS and Powerco to advance the QSC5 technology, ensuring its readiness for commercial application in the automotive industry. As part of this deal, Powerco will be contributing up to $131 million to QS in order for a joint team in San Jose to accelerate the scale up of QS technology. The agreement enables earlier Powerco engagement in the QSC5 production and automation efforts, advancing the ramp up of the QS San Jose pilot line. You can see that this expanded agreement is a clear signal of the growing strategic, technical, and financial alignment between our two companies and reflects our shared confidence in QSC5 as a game-changing platform for the battery industry.

speaker
Dan
Investor Relations (Moderator)

Thanks, Siva. Kevin, can you expand more on the financial impact of this expanded agreement?

speaker
Kevin Hetrick
CFO

The most important thing for investors to understand is that these are cash inflows from a customer. We expect these payments will reduce our gap net loss, improve our bottom line result, and help extend our cash runway. In Q3, we plan to invoice Powerco for more than $10 million tied to development activity already performed by the joint team. Our preliminary assessment is this will not be recognized as revenue. The work to determine the accounting treatment is ongoing. We will provide an update on the Q3 call. One further point, our narrowed adjusted EBITDA guidance is driven by operational improvements and does not reflect potential upside from this expanded power code deal. We'd encourage investors to read our form 10Q, including the risk factors, as well as the amended press release 8K and the redacted amendment for more information.

speaker
Dan
Investor Relations (Moderator)

Thanks, Kevin. Siva, can you elaborate further on the joint development agreement with the second major global automotive customer?

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Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Then this is one of our existing customers with whom we have had a sampling agreement. We have now entered into a JDA with the intent to progress to a full commercialization and licensing arrangement with a global auto major. We are upgrading our relationship, deploying our high-tech model to develop a customized solution for their needs and ultimately progressing to a full licensing arrangement along the same lines as our PowerCore deal. Thanks.

speaker
Dan
Investor Relations (Moderator)

Last month, we announced that the COBRA process has been baselined. Why was that such a significant accomplishment? Dan, let's look at the big picture.

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

We don't believe any solid-state technology can achieve the kind of no-compromise performance in range, charging speed, safety, etc., without a ceramic separator. The ceramic separator is a key part of our anode-free, graphite-free lithium metal architecture. Cobra takes this technology differentiation to a whole new level. It's really a transformative innovation in ceramics processing. Taking technical ceramic production and improving the heat treatment by more than 200 times is unheard of in the industry. Because of this advantage, COBRA is the most important technology element for gigawatt-hour scale production. In the near term, this is what we'll be using to produce our B1 samples later this year. And over the long term, it's what our ecosystem partners will be using to ramp their production. And as impressive as COBRA is today, we believe that COBRA has significant headroom to improve even further. Now that it's in our baseline, our systematic and iterative improvement process will allow us to continue to build out and enhance the COBRA technology portfolio.

speaker
Dan
Investor Relations (Moderator)

Okay. Thanks so much. We're now ready to begin the live portion of today's call. Operator, please open up the line for questions.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. To ask a question, simply press star 1 on your telephone keypad. We do respectfully ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Our first question comes from the line of Winnie Dong with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

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Winnie Dong
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hi. Thank you for taking my question. You talked about another global automotive OEM, which you now have a JDA agreement with. I was wondering if you can elaborate a bit on the agreement. It seems like, you know, there are still more steps to take before, you know, an official licensing deal is signed. Can you just elaborate on what else needs to be done? You know, what the OEM is sort of looking for before they sort of go into this whole commitment?

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Winnie, thanks for the question. So the second deal we just announced after the expanded PowerCore agreement is that we have signed a JDA with a global auto major OEM. Here, our job is to make sure we take our technology platform and adapt it to this customer's needs. So the JDA does exactly that. Make sure that their specifications, the product that they need, we adapt our technology to that. Once we get that going, the same playbook that we have used with Powerco, that same model applies, that we as a joint team will make sure that we are transferring the technology to them to then ramp in volume. So the playbook has been defined with the Powerco agreement, and we are doing the same thing into our next customer as we had originally planned. And we have had this JDA now signed and ready to go.

speaker
Winnie Dong
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Got it. Thanks for that caller. And then you mentioned, you know, the first milestones are linked to, you know, initial expected payment of $10 million has already been achieved and you started to invoice that starting June 3rd. I was wondering if you can maybe delineate or outline some of the details on, you know, what might be associated with the next set of milestones and then subsequent payments. And how should we sort of understand that in the context of the original $130 million versus now the expanded agreement which provides you an additional up to $131 million?

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Just to make sure we are clear, This $131 million we just announced is distinct from the prior $130 million licensing prepaid that we had announced that when we achieve certain milestones and we enter into the final licensing agreement, they pay us. This expanded agreement is really for the joint QS PowerCore Scalab team. The team is already here. We are together. starting to do the industrialization activities. And this is our way of monetizing those collaboration activities. So we think in terms of our business model having two cash flow streams. The first cash flow being what we just talked about, adapting our technology to our customers' needs, industrializing and transferring it. And the second one is the longer term licensing and royalties payment. These two streams, these two cash flow streams are distinct, and we are now demonstrating the first one, which is that in the short term, we are starting to monetize our joint development activities and getting a cash flow stream out of it. And as this team is already here, we are starting to work together. And for some of the work already performed, we are starting to invoice PowerCore for that money. And there's a joint PowerCo QuantumScape steering committee that runs this. And based on the statement of work, this steering committee will approve the invoices that we'll continue to do with PowerCo. And so this is $131 million over two years.

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Winnie Dong
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yeah. And if I can just sneak one in. I think Kevin mentioned that preliminarily be the 10 alien that you will see to invoice is not going to be treated as revenue so just so for future like, how do we sort of understand. You know what flows through and how they the treatments going to be like from like accounting standpoint things.

speaker
Kevin Hetrick
CFO

All right, thank you. Yeah, we did mention that. We do expect this to improve the bottom line and not be revenue on the Q3 call. We'll give more of an update on the accounting treatment.

speaker
Winnie Dong
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, thank you.

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Thank you.

speaker
Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jed Dorfmeyer with William Blair.

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Jed Dorfmeyer
Analyst, William Blair

Hey, team. You have Mark Shooter on for a jet door shiner. Congrats on the VW expansion. That's great news. Dialing in a bit more on that, can you give us some color on what part of the manufacturing process and which part of the line you're going to be investing in to increase the pilot capacity and maybe some idea of what you're expecting for the end capacity of the pilot line and a timeline expected for the ramp?

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Mark, thanks for the question. Just to be clear, we don't intend to be a manufacturing company. We are always going to be a high-tech technology licensing company where we develop the technology and develop and industrialize it and then transfer it to our customer. Having said that, we just announced Cobra, which gives a 25x improvement over Raptor, 200 times over what we had done earlier in 2023. And to match that level of separator output, we are increasing the cell build capacity so we can produce enough samples for us for this activity of industrialization of the core QSC5 technology platform, which is what we are going to be doing. And the output of it is primarily going to be used for the joint activity by this joint scale of team. And the expectation is that I want to be a little bit boring here. The idea of it being a systematic methodical iterative process that we do on our pilot sample production line will be done by this joint ARCO QS scale of team. And this $131 million is geared towards those pilot plans.

speaker
Kevin Hetrick
CFO

And then Mark, just to draw the dots between what Steve was mentioning in our annual goals, when we set out the goals for the year, this is how we hoped it would play out. After achieving the first goal of baselining Cobra production, which we did in Q2, the second goal with that 25X higher productivity relative to Raptor is to lift the production capacity of the downstream uh, uh, solid, um, assembly equipment to keep up with that significantly higher flow, uh, coming from the Raptor process.

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Jed Dorfmeyer
Analyst, William Blair

That's great. I appreciate the color. Hopefully the increased volumes will allow the iteration process to be faster. It should be nice. Um, I guess touching. That's great. The capacity as well. Um, The VW agreement continues to expand, which is great. And now we're sitting at 85 gigawatt hours, which is, you know, double of what Tesla produces at the Nevada facility, the Panasonic. So what do you think that VW needs to see to start to invest in a large facility to start chipping away at that really large opportunity you guys have for licensing?

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Yeah. So I want to be very careful not to speak for my customer, Mark. It is theirs to decide how they ramp the factory at the rate that they do. Having said that, this expansion of the relationship clearly demonstrates that our interests are very aligned in this. We want to make sure this technology is transferred to them so that they can ramp and move very, very quickly. You can go to their site to see all the factories that they are building and what applications they're going to be doing, et cetera. Our partnership has been very, very strong, as I keep saying, that there is a joint scale-up team physically present in San Jose to accomplish this.

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Jed Dorfmeyer
Analyst, William Blair

Appreciate that. Thanks. And if I can squeeze one last one in, I know you don't want to be a manufacturer, and I fully appreciate that. But now you do have some capacity in a pilot line in the United States with a high energy density battery. So I'm wondering if you've gotten any increased engagement from maybe U.S. defense contractors or drone manufacturers given the executive orders of the Trump administration on drones.

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Yeah, I want to talk about two allied, may not be directly answering to you, but you can see the possibilities here. One of the limitations of lithium ion batteries is the presence of graphite. Graphite comes upper 90% from China. As you know, there is no major graphite production in that kind of quantities within the United States. Graphite is inherently dirty. It's a greenhouse disaster trying to produce. The best way not to have graphite in your system is not to have an anode, which is what our technology is. So we are a US maker, a lithium metal anode free technology. And the last point I want to make is we are carefully curating and creating our ecosystem. The QS ecosystem provides that optionality of how a potential customer can use our technology and how to ramp. We've been very, very careful in expanding our ecosystem to make sure that all of these new applications can also be served.

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Jed Dorfmeyer
Analyst, William Blair

Thank you very much.

speaker
Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ben Keller with Baird. Please go ahead.

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Ben Keller
Analyst, Baird

Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Good evening. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on the two announcements. First, on the JDA and then the expanded Power Co., how many, and I know you have other potential customers, how many can you manage at one time? I guess it's a question both from an employee standpoint, a bandwidth standpoint, and then an equipment standpoint. And the last piece, just meaning, like, do you need a new COBRA for this JDA and new, you know, the back end for the cells? Or if you could just help with that, that would be helpful. Thank you.

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Ben, you're thinking just like what you are thinking. You are absolutely right. There is an upper limit on how many we are going to be handling at the same time, because we want to make sure we protect this technology to chosen customers with whom we can scale in high volume, because we want it to be a high touch model. We had mentioned in our last earnings call that we were working with two other auto OEMs and we just signed one of them. We will be careful in choosing how fast we scale. My name is . You are right that we have to be making sure that we keep the intellectual property for each of them well protected, each of our customers, and making sure that we are servicing them very, very well. We have accounted for all of this in our current plans, and we will make sure that we can keep updating you as we do sign more customers.

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Ben Keller
Analyst, Baird

Thank you. Just maybe one more on the expanded power code agreement. You mentioned up to 85 gigawatt hours and then how it wasn't exclusive. Could you just talk more about how different the process is to make, keep it not exclusive from what's under the power code. I guess it follows on to the same, similar question from before, uh, with the next customer, uh, do you have to change the process or, or how much difference is it than what you're doing with, with, um, uh, the power go.

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Yeah. Uh, we do have a non-exclusive arrangement with power. Oracle. has been our first customer, an amazing partner, and we are working very well with them. Clearly, each auto OEM has their own specifics on how they like their batteries in the product specifications that they like to use. We have developed a core technology platform, which we then work with each of them to modify. Some can be maybe form factor change, Some of them may be specifications tightened in one way or the other. Many such things will be customized for each of them. And that's exactly what we are doing right now. The first generation is being customized for PowerCore and the second JDA envisions doing the same thing for the second customer.

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Ben Keller
Analyst, Baird

Great. Thank you guys very much.

speaker
Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gabriel Gonzalez with UBIT.

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Gabriel Gonzalez
Analyst, UBS

Hey, guys. This is Gabriel on for Joe. Thanks for taking my questions. Kevin, just wanted to touch on the original $130 million prepayment. Can you give us some high-level color on how that's progressing generally, and what's a ballpark expectation of when that comes to fruition?

speaker
Kevin Hetrick
CFO

Thank you, Gabe. As we stated in the press release last year, the joint QS Power Code team needs to make satisfactory technical progress towards QSC-5 industrialization, after which we grant Power Code a license, and they make the $130 million prepayment. Our public goals are aligned with that technical progress, and we just need to keep our heads down and keep executing.

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Gabriel Gonzalez
Analyst, UBS

Understood. Okay. And it's encouraging with the new $130 million $131 million upgraded deal from PowerCode that you extended the cash runway into 2029. However, the stock has also had quite an impressive rally in recent weeks. So given where we stand now, how are you thinking about sort of tapping into the equity markets here to further shore up the cash position on the balance sheet?

speaker
Kevin Hetrick
CFO

Our job as a management team is to set out to do important things that create value for the company and to do so systematically, methodically, and iteratively. We value a strong balance sheet. It's a differentiator for the company, and we commit to continue to be strategic regarding any capital markets activity.

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Gabriel Gonzalez
Analyst, UBS

Understood. Thanks for the call.

speaker
Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Delaney. Please go ahead.

speaker
Mark Delaney
Analyst

Just kind of going back to this power co-expanded agreement, can you talk about the implications from an OPEX and CAPEX standpoint? I appreciate the caller on the 10 million not coming through as revenue, so how should we think about that, like hitting on an EBIT level? Is there any margin associated with that revenue or just any call you could provide that would be great?

speaker
Kevin Hetrick
CFO

Thank you, Mom. highlight a few things that I mentioned before. So in Q3, we plan invoice power queue for more than $10 million for development activity already performed by the joint scale-up team. This will mark the first meaningful non-dilutive cash inflow from a customer. We expect this will improve the bottom line. Our preliminary conclusion is this will not be accounted for as revenue. and the work to determine the accounting treatment is underway, and we plan to provide an update on the Q3 call. We would encourage investors to read our form 10Q, including the risk factors, as well as the press release and the 8K. The 8K does include a redacted form of the amendment.

speaker
Mark Delaney
Analyst

All right, so just to kind of maybe fill up on that, So is there any incremental, maybe to phrase it a little better, is there any incremental OPEX or CAPEX under the expanded agreement, or is this just kind of payments for the already existing OPEX and CAPEX that was planned for?

speaker
Kevin Hetrick
CFO

That's a good question. Our long-term operational plans included the bulk of the work and the statement of work. So from that point of view, these inflows are accretive.

speaker
Mark Delaney
Analyst

Understood. And then just a second question would be around this JDA. What are the sort of milestones? I know you spoke about needing to kind of fit the specs to the customer's needs. Any sort of specifics on what type of technical milestones that would look like or timeframe in which that would happen and how much kind of, to the earlier question, bandwidth you have to support that while you're still prioritizing the power co agreement under the new deal. Thank you.

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Aman, just like Kevin just alluded to, these are already in our longer term plans. And so this work is also in our works already. And the second JDA is something obviously we announced the possibility of in the last quarter and we are following through with it. And so these are well accounted for in the financials that we have put up.

speaker
Kevin Hetrick
CFO

As a technology licensing company, our first job is to develop differentiated technology. And as you know, in a licensing business model, there's a lot of operating leverage. We celebrate the opportunity to specialize and to tailor our technology to their specific needs towards that two-phase cash flow set of cash inflows that that Siva mentioned, both to monetize the upfront tailoring under the collaboration phase towards longer term royalty inflows as we jointly have success helping them scale up their factories.

speaker
Operator

As a reminder to ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. I will now turn the call back over to Siva for closing remarks.

speaker
Dr. Siva Sivaram
CEO

Thank you, operator. I'd like to thank our employees for their dedication, our partners for their trust, and our shareholders for their continued support. We look forward to updating you on further progress in the months to come. Thank you.

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