7/30/2025

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Good morning and welcome to Quartz's second quarter 2025 conference call. During today's call, all participants will be in listen only mode. Should you need assistance at any time, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star keys followed by 0. A flyer presentation accompanies today's webcast, and participants are invited to follow along, advancing the strides themselves. To access the webcast, follow the instructions posted in the early release. Alternatively, you can access a flyer presentation on the Investor section of Quartz's website under the Events and Presentations link. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, please press star, then 1. To withdraw a question, please press star, then 2. Please note, this event is not recorded. I will now turn the conference call over to Katie Kershbock, Quartz Senior Manager of Invest Relations. Katie, please go ahead.

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Katie Kershbock
Senior Manager of Investor Relations, Quartz

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. With me today are Joel Quargauchi, Quartz Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and Tony Stanmick, Quartz Chief Financial Officer. Joel will lead today's call with a business update, and Tony will follow with a summary of Quartz's second quarter and -to-date financial results, followed by Q&A. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being webcast, and forward-looking statements are subject to safe Harvard provisions, as outlined in our quarterly news release and in today's slide presentation on slide 2. Quartz financial results are prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. However, this presentation also contains non-debt financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted diluted earnings per share, free cash flow, net debt, and debt leverage ratio. We have included in the slide presentation, recommendations of these non-debt financial measures to direct financial measures. Finally, a replay of the call will be available on the Investors section of Quad.com shortly after our call concludes today. I will now hand over the call to Joel.

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

Thank you, Katie, and good morning, everyone. Second quarter results met our expectations as we continued to differentiate ourselves as a marketing experience company that simplifies the complexities of marketing for brands and marketers. Our distinctive offerings shown on slide 3 include a suite of integrated solutions for creative production and media, backed by intelligence and tech across all digital and physical channels. We continue to invest in our strategic growth areas, including innovative solutions and superior talent to stay ahead of industry trends and execute faster, better, and with more ability. Quartz's overall supply chain continues to have limited direct exposure to terms. Our largest import is the paper we bring in from Canada, as well as we manufacture books we manufacture in our facilities in Mexico. These products are compliant under the USMCA, and our expectation is that they will continue to be exempt from tariffs. During the second quarter, we did not see a significant pullback from clients due to tariffs or inflationary pressures. However, we continue to closely monitor for potential impacts on our clients, given the widespread uncertainty of when and how tariffs will ultimately be implemented. We are paying particular attention to our clients' supply chains for potential disruptions, as well as fluctuations in consumer demand that may affect their mission-critical marketing plans. Rising corporate rates also continue to challenge our clients, but a special 9-month USPS catalog discount, launching in October, offers some relief. This 10% discount aims to touch volume in the last 50 within the catalog vertical. We appreciate the USPS agreeing to this test, which follows a recent study from the Postal Regulatory Commission confirming that rising rates negatively impact mail volume, a long-held view within Quartz and other industries that rely on the USPS services to sustain essential communication and commerce. The PRC also has acknowledged for the first time that the current system is not meeting objectives, reinforcing the need for a sustainable approach. We are excited to welcome David Steiner as the recently appointed Postmaster General. He brings with him a compelling blend of operational expertise, financial discipline, and strategic vision, as well as an employee-friendly management approach at a critical time for the USPS. Quartz looks forward to continuing our way to see a strong collaboration with the USPS leadership to ensure print remains a valuable part of the marketing ecosystem. We continue to offer a two-pronged approach to help our clients mitigate the impact of postal rates, which remain the single largest marketing expense for mailers. The first prong is to provide innovative postal optimization solutions to maximize savings. Quartz offers a whole suite of postal solutions, including innovations like Household Fusion, in which we bundle multiple magazines from various publishers and catalogs from different brands and sections for the same household into a single package to reduce costs, and expanded co-mail capabilities that drive additional postal savings opportunities through economies of scale. The second prong of this strategy focuses on offsetting pricing increases to improved response rates for mailed marketing products. Much of our offering focuses on using our proprietary data stack to enhance audience targeting and responsiveness across channels, including in-home direct mail. I will discuss further in a moment. On slide four, we share how Quad is investing in the rapidly evolving technology of artificial intelligence to create internal cost savings and support revenue generation. We organize our approach to AI application into three categories. Process automation, which replicates and replaces repetitive human tasks. Cognitive insights, which uses machine learning and logarithms to produce predictive insights. And cognitive engagement, where genagrid AI can continuously analyze large pools of data to dynamically create new content and insights. Quad leverages AI across these categories to optimize each aspect of the marketing process. In MX Intelligence, we are focusing on using AI-powered insights from our data stack to predict behaviors and optimize messaging to reach the right audiences. In MX Creative, we are applying AI-driven automation to accelerate the production of high-quality customized content across channels, ensuring relevant connections at scale. In MX Production, we are streamlining workflows like scheduling and machine maintenance to reduce manual intervention and improve speed to market without compromising quality. And in MX Media, we are using AI to optimize campaign performance through continuously refining media execution across digital and physical channels, tracking real-time progress and making intelligence adjustments for maximum impact. Transition to slide five, marketers increasingly rely on audience intelligence to drive stronger campaign outcomes and quantifiable ROI. And our AI-powered, household-based data stack is helping meet that

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need.

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

Our data stack includes more than 20,000 addressable demographic, transactional, attitudinal, and behavioral characteristics, as well as hundreds of proprietary interests or what we call passions, representing 92% of the US households. We are actively applying our data stack to client work across all channels. One major use case for our data stack is enhancing client media buying with precision at scale. For example, Spirit of Jallow, the fourth largest spirit supplier by volume in the US, relies on our data guide to guide its buying strategy across -of-home, social, and connected TV media channels. Jallow is pleased with the progress our partnership has generated so far and we look forward to growing together in the future course. We also use our data stack to enhance direct marketing campaign effectiveness. By filtering target characteristics and passions from our data stack, we optimize mailing lists to increase response rates and achieve a greater ROI for our client initiatives. Earlier this year, we applied our data stack to identify the best potential customers for our direct mail campaign we've helped execute for a nationwide home services company. The new customer acquisition mailing led to more than an 80% increase in revenue and a 65% increase in return on ad spend compared to the client's 2024 mailing campaign. As we highlighted last quarter, Quad is providing integrated marketing services for valvuling instant oil change across creative, production, and media. Using a combination of demographic and transnational characteristics, we are generating targeted risk to market-supply grand openings and solar remodels through in-home direct mail. The initial results from this application of our data stack are quite promising. In addition to the use cases I outlined, we're exploring new avenues to monetize our differentiated data capabilities and I look forward to sharing more about these opportunities on future calls. The biggest hurdle to scaling data applications is the time and specialized knowledge required to interpret the relevant data for a particular use case. During the quarter, we solve for this challenge through the launch of Audience Builder 2.0, an AI-colored tool that enables Quad employees to easily access our data stack to create complex, high-propensity audiences. By year's end, we expect to finish integrating a large language model within the tool to enable even faster audience creation using natural language prompts. These queries can be as simple as, quote, build me audience of all potential customers who are in the market for premium fast food to shop online. End of quote. The tool will then generate an audience list following the requested parameters in a format that can be deployed directly to online or offline channels. On slide six, we provide an update on In-Store Connect by Quad, which leverages the high-flow traffic of brick and mortar stores to generate direct consumer connections for retailers and brands. We recently announced our partnership with Bayarda, a leading Latino-owned grocery chain in California, known for providing high-quality, authentic ingredients to its customers. By the end of the summer, In-Store Connect will go live in 15 Bayarda stores, featuring messages in both English and Spanish and providing CPGs with expanded access to shoppers. Steve Netherton, Chief Information Officer and Vice President, continues improving for Bayarda Supermarkets, said, In-Store Connect gives us an effective tool to communicate our unique products and potential savings to shoppers, while opening new opportunities for brands to engage with communities who serve in meaningful, measurable ways. I am pleased to share that we have successfully doubled our In-Store Connect footprint with the trademark companies. Recently, installing the solution in 15 additional stores, this marks the first grocery client to expand its store across the other initial test phase. With In-Store Connect, we are strengthening our roles as strategic advisors, helping physical retailers adapt to a rapidly evolving media environment. Our dynamic real-time advertising channel delivers measurable results for advertisers and retailers alike. Based on a sampling of data from transaction logs, Quad has seen an average of 5 to 20% product sales lift from participating brands. The range in sales lift depends on campaign objectives. Promotional campaigns on our platform often generate the highest returns, with some achieving sales increases greater than 20% for featured products. Randeviernet apps, like those from MicroWolf Ultra, consistently deliver single-digit sales increases, adding steady value over time. In addition to individual product lift, In-Store Connect has demonstrated its ability to boost across entire product categories. We are also using In-Store Connect to help other types of retailers create their own internal store and store retail media ecosystems. The focus here is to elevate the shopper experience with promotional content directly in aisle. As we shared last quarter, one of the nation's largest home improvement retailers currently has more than 550 of our digital screens installed and approximately 100 of its stores. Transitioning to Friday 7, during the quarter, the company and its leadership received several recognitions and awards, respecting Quad's industry expertise. For the sixth year in a row, we ranked among AdAge's top 25 world's largest agency companies. We also earned a repeat spot on M&M's Agency 100 for our expertise in healthcare marketing. Several of our leaders received industry recognition during the quarter, too, ranging from commerce marketers pioneering retail media to e-commerce studio professionals and AdWeek's most influential leaders driving growth across advertising, marketing, media, and tech. As an industry thought leader, Quad regularly partners with some of the nation's most reputable researchers to explore marketing trends, as shown on slide 8. Quad recently partnered with the Heritfold, one of the longest running surveys in the U.S., to conduct a cross-generational consumer study on how Americans engage with digital and physical media. The study, titled The Return of Touch Report, Reimagining Consumer Engagement in 2025, finds that consumers desire tactile brand experiences, including info shopping and immersive print catalogs and direct mail. Some key findings are that 71% of consumers say, experience a brand in a physical store deepens my connection and loyalty to it. 71% of consumers also say print catalogs or made-disease feel more authentic than digital campaigns. Findings were even more compelling for younger generations, as 86% of Gen Z and millennials say touching and feeling products are essential to my purchasing decisions, and 73% say they look forward to receiving catalogs from brands. These trends support a large degree that integrating digital and physical touch points is essential to impactful marketing. That's why we have built our services to seamlessly connect creative production and media solutions across online and offline channels to enhance customer engagement and improve marketing ROI. On slide 9, we spotlight a long-time partner that leverages tactile media to improve engagement with consumers. Mittwell Groups has a portfolio of iconic American fashion brands, including Talbots and Chicos. Catalogs play a vital role in marketing these brands, and Quad has probably served as Talbots' trusted catalog print partner for more than 15 years. Beyond print execution and paper sourcing, Quad employees work as an extension of Talbots' marketing team, working directly on site in the client's facilities where they handle -to-free media that supports the brand's catalogs and social channels. Building on our strong manufacturing and service record with Talbots, Quad has recently expanded our partnership with other affiliates of Mittwell Groups, winning catalog and direct mail print execution for three brands under the Chicos portfolio. Transitioning to slide 10, we are proud to share new work we debuted for Natrol, the nation's leading drug-free cleave-aid brand. As Natrol's agency of record, our Betty Creative Agency was engaged to help reposition the brand from a cleave supplement to a wellness performance partner. We collaborated with MVP quarterback Josh Allen to promote the client's new Sleep and Restore product line through a campaign featuring 15- and 30-second videos for us across digital, linear TV, and connected TV, including Amazon, Squatch TV, and Walmart Connect. The spot, entitled This Is Me, has garnered strong results, receiving over 1.8 million YouTube views and 5.8 million Instagram Reel views in under two months. The campaign has also been picked up by major media outlets and marketing publications, including People, More Illustrated, Geeky Report, MMM, and Media Post. Rebecca Lyle, Natrol's chief marketing officer, said utilizing MVP quarterback Josh Allen, we've been able to tap into a huge new audience and see what impact users with a larger top-tier challenge at scale can have. We're thrilled about the This Is Me spot that's gone live along with the Natrol ProSleeper Sleep Stage, and we're even more excited about what's still to come. Natrol is just one of three standout creative campaigns our beddy agency has launched in the last two months, including new work for the Minnesota Lottery and a creative campaign for CHAMPS, a Midwest dairy products brand owned by dairy farmers in America. Before I turn over the call to Tony, I would like to recognize our employees and thank them for their continued hard work, particularly as we prepare for our peak busy season. Through our persistent and commitment to innovation, we're supplying and simplifying the complexities of marketing and driving better business outcomes for our clients. With that, I will now turn it over to Tony for the financial review. Thanks, Joel, and good morning, everyone. On slide 11, we saw a diverse revenue net. Net sales were $572 million in the second quarter of 2025, a decrease of 4% compared to the second quarter of 2024, when excluding the 6% impact of the February 28, 2025 divestiture of our European operations. The decline in net sales during the second quarter was primarily due to lower paper and logistics sales. Net sales were $1.2 billion in the first half of 2025, a 3% decline compared to the first half of 2024, then excluding the 4% impact of the Europe divestiture. On a -to-date basis, the decline in net sales was primarily due to lower paper, logistics, and agency solution sales, including the loss of a large grocery client, which annualized at the beginning of March 2025. Comparing our net sales breakdown between the first half of 2024 and 2025, our revenues as a percentage of total sales increased 2% in our targeted print offerings, driven by direct marketing, packaging, and in-store. While our large-scale print offerings decreased 2% in our revenue mix, due to expected organic declines in magazines and retail inserts. Slide 12 provides a snapshot of our second quarter 2025 financial results. Adjusted EBITDA was $43 million in the second quarter of 2025, as compared to $52 million in the second quarter of 2024, and adjusted EBITDA margin declined from .2% to 7.6%. On a -to-date basis, adjusted EBITDA was $89 million in 2025, compared to $102 million in 2024, and adjusted EBITDA margin declined from .9% to 7.4%. The decrease in adjusted EBITDA in both periods was primarily due to the impact of lower sales, increased investment in innovative offerings to drive future revenue growth, and the divestiture of our European operations, partially offset by lower selling, general, and administrative expenses, benefits from improved manufacturing productivity, and savings from cost reduction initiatives. Adjusted diluted earnings per share was $0.14 in the second quarter of 2025, as compared to $0.12 in the second quarter of 2024. -to-date, adjusted diluted earnings per share was $0.34 in 2025, compared to $0.22 in 2024. The increases are due to higher earnings and the beneficial impact of shared purchases. Pre-cash flow improved $16 million from last year to negative $56 million in the -month-ended June 30, 2025, and included $34 million of pre-cash flow generation in the second quarter of 2025. The increase in pre-cash flow is primarily due to an increase in cash earnings, including lower restructuring payments and lower interest payments, as well as a $9 million decrease in capital expenditures. In addition, during the first quarter of this year, we made proactive inventory purchases of paper and other materials in advance of potential shares. This inventory was utilized during the second quarter, which also contributes to improved working capital compared to the first quarter. We should look at the seasonality of our pre-cash flow and debt leverage on slide 13. Due to the seasonality of our business from the time and the quality of related advertising and promotions, we should be generating negative pre-cash flow in the first nine months of the year, followed by large positive pre-cash flow in the fourth quarter. In 2025, we anticipate a similar seasonal pattern for our pre-cash flow and debt leverage. When removing the impact of seasonality, our net debt has decreased by $84 million from June 30, 2024 to June 30, 2025. Our pre-cash flow, in addition to proceeds from asset sales, fuels our capital allocation strategy, as shown on slide 14. During the second quarter, we made progress on the sale of those facilities, including the sale of our $65,000 square foot Sacramento, California building for approximately $5 million. We continue to expect to generate future cash proceeds from additional owned facilities that are currently for sale. Our transaction generation recently enabled us to deepen our product offerings by acquiring the Coneo and Asset Provider, a Coneo and Magistrate solution provider. It is crucial to provide the industry and our clients with additional Coneo postal optimization solutions, since postage is the largest cost to our clients to produce and deliver print marketing campaigns. We are pleased that the armory integration is going well. In addition to the armory acquisition, we have used our strong cash generation to maintain low debt balances and return $15 million of capital to shareholders year to date. This year, we increased the quarterly dividend by 50% to $0.75 per share, and our next dividend is payable on September 5. In addition, we repurchased 1.4 million shares of Class A common stocks out far in 2025. This brings total repurchases of 7.3 million shares since we commenced buyback in 2022, representing approximately 13% across March 31, 2022 outstanding shares. We believe this represents strong value and we will remain opportunistic in terms of our future sharing purchases. Slide 15 includes a summary of our debt capital structure. At the end of the second quarter, our debt had a blended interest rate of 7.2%, and our total available equity and clean cash on hand under our most restrictive debt covenant was $202 million, yet our next significant maturity of $193 million not due until October 2029. As a reminder, given uncertainty regarding interest rates, we entered into two interest rates of color during the spill $150 million in emotional value during 2023. The interest rate of color is cap or exposure if its interest rates increase, and we benefit if interest rates were to fall down to approximately 2% so far. Including these interest rate colors, we would pay lower interest expense on approximately 86% of our June 30th debt if interest rates decline. We reaffirm our 2025 guidance as shown on slide 16. We continue to respect net sales decline should decline to 6% compared to 2024, excluding 2025 net sales of $23 million and 2024 net sales of $153 million from our divested European operations. The total year of 2025 adjusted EBITDA is expected to be between $180 million and $220 million, with $200 million at the mid-point of that range. Compared to the second quarter of 2025, which is our lowest quarter for print volume, we have stretched the question of higher adjusted EBITDA in the third and fourth quarters of 2025 during our seasonal production peak. We are closely monitoring the potential impact of tariffs and inflationary pressures on our clients in addition to the recent wholesale rate increases, which could affect print and marketing spending. As we have always done in times of economic disruption, we will remain nimble and adapt to the changing demand environment, while maintaining our disciplined approach to how we manage all aspects of our business. We expect 2025 for cash flow to be in the range of $40 million to $60 million. And finally, our net debt leverage ratio is expected to decrease to approximately 1.5 times by the end of 2025, achieving the lower end of our long-term targeted net debt leverage range of 1.5 times to 2.0 times. As a reminder, we operate above this range at certain times of the year, primarily due to the seasonality of our business. Slide 17 includes a summary of our 2028 financial outlook and our long-term financial goals, as we continue to build our momentum as a marketing experience summary. Compared to net sales declining 10% in 2024, we expect the rate of net sales to climb to improve to negative 4% in 2025, excluding the year of divestiture, and then reach an inflection point of net sales growth in 2028. We are strategically investing for the long term, as we expect growth in our integrated solutions and targeted print offerings to outpace organic decline in our large-scale print product lines of retail, insert, and magazines. In addition, by 2028, we expect to improve adjusted EBITDA margin by at least 100 days of price compared to 2024, and then reach low double-digit adjusted EBITDA margins in the long term, as our net sales mix of higher margin services and product increases while continuing to improve mean and factor in productivity and then reduce costs. Regarding free cash flow, we expect to improve our free cash flow conversion as a percentage of adjusted EBITDA from approximately 25% based on 2025 guidance to 35% by 2028, and 40% in the long term, primarily due to lower interest payments on decrease in debt balances and lower resource repayments. Finally, we continue to expect to maintain our current long-term targeted debt leverage range of 1.5 times to 2.0 times as part of our bail-out capital allocation strategy. We believe the cause of compelling long-term investment, and we remain focused on achieving our financial goals, including returning capital to shareholders. With that, I'd like to turn the call back

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to our operator for questions. Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1, and it is asked on phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the key. To withdraw a question, please press star, then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our officer. The first question comes from the line of Kevin Skanky with Barrington Research Associates.

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Please go ahead. Good morning, Kevin. Kevin. So I wanted to start out by asking about

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

the landscape in terms of the postal rates and the post office. It sounded like, again, a little more optimism on that front that you voiced on this call, with maybe a little more focus on the pricing versus volume trade-off. I know you keep in touch closely with Associates of Postal Service, so maybe give us a little bit more on how you see that progressing, and if you potentially can get a little more relief on that front. We'll also recognize that you do a lot for your clients to help offset rising rates. Yeah, a lot going on here. Last week was the formal transition of the old Post National General to the new one. I was actually at the reception for him at the National Postal Museum, which is part of the Smithsonian Institute. I knew David when he was CEO of Waste Management, and I know him as a strong, practical, people-oriented leader, and so I'm optimistic about his talents being able to be applied to what is a rather complicated story. But the other thing happening is they did just implement that expected 11% postal rate increase, which puts more weight on top of the 50 to 70% that they've increased over the past four years alone. But that was expected, and I think that the pulse here is that we're starting to recognize that those increases have shook down, as well as volume in the industry, and it's an age-old argument that when you increase your biggest cost to your clients, the volume will go down. They seem to finally be believing that. And so one of the things that they're doing which is encouraging is this test that starts in October, which goes for nine months, where if you reach certain criteria as a cataloger, that you can get up to a 10% discount. That's really important because it's the prospecting side

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

catalogs where the volume drives up the quickest in rate increase. So hopefully that relief will help show maybe rest to find and in some cases some growth. And so we're looking forward to that. The other big thing that happened is the Postal Rate Commission, which really oversees the rate structure of the post office, started a review of everything a couple years ahead of when they usually do it. And some initial things just came out last week, which we just submitted new comments this week that are accepting. One thing that they recognized formally is that the pricing increases have hurt volume. There's even a recommendation to go to once a year price increases because it's hard for businesses to manage. But they also went as far as to suggest that the rate increases should be capped again under CPI increases. And so that's something we're watching and we will be participating in. And so I'm encouraged. I'm encouraged by it. It is a complicated, difficult thing to manage. So it's not easy for any post manager general to come in and fix something like this. But I like what we're hearing. I like the direction. And we're going to stay very closely in touch with the post office as they think about their next moves because

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they are engaging with the industry again, which is nice to see. Okay, great. I just wanted to shift

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

to your ongoing investments and growth and innovation. And a lot of discussion about AI in your remarks, specifically the launch of Audience Builder 2.0. You noted in your press release that that's a significant milestone in being able to activate this wealth of data that you have. So maybe you touch on what does it do for you that you weren't able to do before and how that benefits the client and how that contributes to maybe growth in your business. Yeah, I'd say the data stack that we've done in partnership with Google Cloud to really launch it and be able to make sure that that will be able to use it in ways that we expect to in the future. What it really kind of does, Audience Builder, which was built on the Snowflake platform, really helps kind of democratize the access to the data. So it's one thing to have a large data stack. It's another to kind of translate and dive into it and say, you know, here's the audience I need to build from that data stack that's good for this specific customer and the attributes they're looking for. Traditionally, you're working with some data scientists to try and navigate that. There's all sorts of work and modeling to pull out the right data in the data stack. What Audience Builder 2.0 does is actually allows us to automate that. And so even someone like me, although I hopefully they'll keep you from doing that, could actually start entering some of the attributes into the model and use some AI features to help navigate through the data stack to automatically pull those out. And as I referenced before, the next phase of this is where we're going to apply, you know, large energy or large language models to actually help to prompt into the data stack. So you go from having to input into multiple fields to actually just prompting the AI to go find, I want the person who likes to run outside and use these types of shoes for what they like to do, please create an audience of 300,000 people who look like that. And it will then automatically navigate it. And so you can sort of see the progression of the use of AI on the data stack. But again, AI is a tool. And so the way I look at it is the way to make things much more accessible in a faster pace so that customers will be

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able to iterate through audience data faster than ever. Yeah, that sounds really interesting. I mean, do you think this is

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

a tool or something you can go out to your client base and kind of show them that this is a differentiator and, you know, ultimately these sort of tools that you continue to build and launch kind of continue to drive new business ones for you? Yeah, I think there's a lot of differentiators that happen. Certainly this will be the data stack is. But where we spend our time, and I'm trying to show you in the script and roll out in the examples, is it's not a data stack on the tool itself. It's not an AI model on the tool itself. It's what does it apply to to help the customers sell more business? And that's what we were totally focused on. And so, you know, when we talk about the data stack and that we've got the audience 2.0 to help navigate it, what we're really saying to the customers, you have this great data stack, now we're going to be able to grab data faster than ever, more accurately than ever, and work at the same time showing them where to apply that. And so great, we got the audience data quickly. It may help us more quickly say this much should be in social, this much of your budget should be in direct mail, these are the different places you should spend the money. It's that complexity that the customers are asking us to help them with. And that's why, you know, I think it's important to understand in a complex marketing world that's evolving here, it's not like one thing that the customer is looking for. They're looking for help in how to use that one thing, and how does it tie to the three or four other things that are happening. I mean, in the half or even in the quarter, I'm really excited by, you know, the 7% increases in sales we're seeing in direct mail and packaging, and the 13% increase in sales we're in store, because we're not selling those individual products by mimicking what they're already doing. We're getting the sales by tying in complexity of new offerings to help them get more responsiveness out of that. And like an example in direct mail, I'm not just saying we're going to replicate what you're doing. We're actually saying let's start with new audience, and let's figure out how to come up with a challenger direct mail piece to the one you're currently doing. By the way, we'll test that virtually in our virtual testing platform before we roll it out. That's not how it's typically done. And so we're knitting big programs based on tying those complexities together, the same in packaging. We're not just trying to do the same form factor someone's doing. In the case of a battery supplier, they're trying to get away from plastic. So we help create a form factor that just uses paper that fits the machines you're going to do, so we run that. But also in packaging, we have cases where we're using the same sort of virtual analytics to inform what the form factor and what the creator should look like on the packaging when it's in the aisle. But furthermore, in store booths, then, it's saying here's the signage that should accompany it in the aisle with the packaging. And then finally, when you look at those, we're tying complexities together, just not mimicking what people are doing. And that's the whole power of this MS marketing solution is we're going to have all the buzzwords working for us, the AI tools, the data stats, but it's how you're applying it and how the customers can feel comfortable that we're going to make it easy. Great. Very helpful color. And I appreciate you touching on some of the sounds like really healthy growth rates in the targeted print category, as I believe you said, 7% and 13% for a couple of years. Yeah, you're doing a little higher off the border, but... Okay, great. Well, yeah, that's very helpful color. You know, because that kind of dovetails and this is like bigger picture, my question is, you know, any evidence you can point to that gives you greater confidence about this journey you're on to achieving net sales roles? I know you continue to say by 2028, but it sounds like there's some kind of real tangible evidence you're seeing so far this year that the strategy in that journey continues to progress and take hold. Yeah, I think you look at the pie charts that we show you of targeted print versus large scale print, you know, in large scale print, that is viable marketing material. Retail interest still works, net people still want to make money, but they have the biggest decline rate. And so part of the migration to increasing the share of pie in targeted print and the integrated solution side, is that, you know, you have a steady decline, but it's still good revenue, it's good cash flow revenue. And so that kind of helped a bit, a bit of a little bit. I mean, in fact, I think we're seeing a little bit less decline in retail interest than we typically expect. Some of that's maybe from market share, maybe a little bit more resilient in some categories, but it will continue to decline. So that's the healthy balance that people have to think about, about why 2028 is a threat. We still have this big girthy, you know, print volume stuff that creates good cash flow, and we manage it as we manage it while we grow the other stuff. But it's how we're winning the other stuff that encourages me, because we're not winning it by just doing the me too pitch. We're doing it by using intelligence to create those channels, to do more customer center from a growth

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rate standpoint, higher ROI. All right, fantastic. That's again, really great commentary. I appreciate it. I'll turn it back over. Okay, thanks. We'll talk to you later. I'll take the next question. Thank you.

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Next question comes from the line of Barton Crockett with Wilson Black. Please go ahead. Good

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

morning, Martin. Good morning, Martin.

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Tony Stanmick
Chief Financial Officer, Quartz

Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I guess a couple of things I was curious about on the numbers. One is, you know, your sales trend kind of excluding the Europe Jackass which are down 4% in a quarter. A little bit of a deceleration from the down 2% in the first quarter, even though I think you have the benefit of lacking the loss of a gross requirement. And I was just wondering if you could just remind us how material was that grocery impact, and also unwrap a little bit, I'll talk a little bit about what prompted the deceleration here and changing the second quarter version for free.

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

Yeah, so I'll start with your question on the grocery client. You know, that was, we had disclosed earlier 3% of revenue. And so, you know, I think, you know, $90 to $100 million, you know, on the top line for a year. And then when you look at quarter over quarter, you're right on the trend Q1 versus Q2. Q2 is typically our lowest volume quarter. We saw, you know, higher organic decline in some of those larger print product lines in that quarter. We also saw some volume get into the first quarter that might typically have fallen into the second quarter, which explains the quarter over quarter trend. But, you know, we're still, you know, for the year, we're down, you know, 3% on the top line, so closer to the better end of our range of 2% to 6%. And now we expect increasing volumes going into our third and then the fourth quarter. So it's just a matter of, you know, lower volumes in Q2.

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Tony Stanmick
Chief Financial Officer, Quartz

Okay. So to that end, I mean, I know you guys have the full year guidance. Anything you can say on how the third quarter is trending based on what you can see so far?

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

Yeah, I guess I didn't see any of the volumes in the quarter to be alarming. But I will say, you know, we were worried about the effect of tariffs and, you know, the last quarter, and we talked about that, but we also said that we hadn't seen large-scale pullback because of tariffs. I'd say the tone that I'm hearing in the marketplace now is cautious optimism that, boy, you know, the world is still functioning after all this stuff that's happened that, you know, again, I think people are sort of charging ahead. We'll continue to look at what kind of impact maybe as the tariffs roll out, it will have on the consumer. But as I talk to catalogers, there seems to be an optimism there, cautious optimism. I think in retail a little bit of the same, but, you know, it depends on who you talk to and what category. So, you know, I think that I'm feeling comfortable with what we're seeing and what we're hearing in terms of our guidance and relative to our guidance.

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Tony Stanmick
Chief Financial Officer, Quartz

But it sounds like you said that trends have been, you know, volumes are up, and that was a comment I want to make sure I understand. Are you saying?

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

Yeah, I think as the rest of the, pardon me, as the rest of the year plays out, you should expect, you know, compared to the second quarter, higher revenue and even than the third, and then the fourth to be the highest revenue and even to quarter of the year.

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Tony Stanmick
Chief Financial Officer, Quartz

Seasonally, but on a -over-year basis, is the trend, are you saying the trend improves or just it goes up seasonally quarter to quarter?

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

It'll stay there within the guidance range that we gave of the two to six on

speaker
Tony Stanmick
Chief Financial Officer, Quartz

the quarters. All right. All right. And then you guys, in terms of the assets, though, you guys had a couple of things going on here that I just want to make sure I understand. The results you just reported. So you guys had closed Sacramento, and so that cash is in the door here in the quarter you just reported, is that correct?

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

That is correct. $5 million.

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Tony Stanmick
Chief Financial Officer, Quartz

And then you guys had bought Enru, I think, for $34 million. And that output is also in the quarter you just reported?

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

We paid $15 million up front, and that's in the quarter that we just reported. There's a $2 million cash payment later this year, and then there's an earn-out that depends on how the business performs that meets up the rest of the potential

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Analyst/Participant

purchase price over five years.

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Tony Stanmick
Chief Financial Officer, Quartz

Okay. All right. Now, in terms of the other kind of assets, I mean, is there, do you just remind us what you have that is on the block right now that could be sold for me at this point?

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

Yes, we've got two buildings located in Eppingham, Illinois. These are all from earlier plant closures. We have one building in Waukee, Iowa, and we have one building in Greenville, Michigan, which was our most recent plant closure done in the early part of the second quarter. The Greenville and Waukee plants are relatively small, you know, think around 100,000 square feet. Eppingham's got, you know, a little more, between the two buildings, a little more square footage through it.

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Tony Stanmick
Chief Financial Officer, Quartz

Okay. All right. Now, in terms of your guide for net debt at $300 million, I think, from what was $350, so about a $50 million net reduction, which kind of squares with the middle point of your free cash flow guidance for the year. Are you guys, how are you guys kind of treating cash from potential asset sales when you're guiding for net debt? Is that kind of not included or anything you could say about that?

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Analyst/Participant

I would say we do

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

make estimates on when we think facilities are going to sale and what we think they're going to sell for. I mean, we do include that in the year-end guidance. So, you know, it's possible, depending on the timing of asset sales, that the only impact it would have would be on the net debt, you know, debt leverage, you know. And again, we'll eventually sell those buildings. So, depending on timing, if possible, something could slip into 2026.

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Tony Stanmick
Chief Financial Officer, Quartz

All right. That's cool. And then I guess the final point is, you know, this postal service report, which sounds interesting. The recommendation for CPI capped rate increases would sound like revolutionary compared to the last four years of much bigger than inflation at a time when inflation has been elevated. What would it take for that to be implemented and what would be the timing for that to be implemented and what is the probability of that, in your opinion?

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

Yeah, that's a good question that we'll have to play out because, you know, they're the governing body that overlooks it. And there's lots of profit that goes on here. There's lots of input being gathered this week, quite frankly. And so what the profits will be, how long that will take is a little bit yet to be seen. It's not revolutionary. It's actually where we came from until, you know, the pandemic happened. So after the pandemic happened, where they were allowed to use the authority to go above the CPI increase. But for the many years, decades plus before that, it was capped at CPI. And if you look at that range, you know, what happened was, yeah, we had the client in print, but it was pretty consistent and manageable. And then as soon as the pandemic happened, you saw a big increase in the decline of print, but then it bounced way back, back to a little bit better than the decrease that it was seeing. But that's when they really started cranking the prices. So in the next subsequent from 22 on is when you suddenly saw the print decline accelerate because you just saw the pricing increase so dramatically. And I guess the challenge is they got to run it like a declining business. I think the previous postmaster general declared he wanted to run it like a growing business. Well, the only way you can grow revenue if volume is declining is crank pricing. Well, that's a very short term thing to do. And so I think there's a lot of people in the industry really pushing to come up with something that works. And will it be a traffic CPI? I don't know, but I think lessons are being learned here and I think there's a real impetus and desire to want to come up with something that allows the industry to be healthy, which means the post office can be healthy, but it's going to take some complexity and some heavy lifting to get that happening. I wish I could give you a more succinct answer, but we will share it as we see it happening.

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Tony Stanmick
Chief Financial Officer, Quartz

Okay. All right. That's helpful. And that's it from me for questions. Thank you.

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Analyst/Participant

All right. Thanks, Barton. Operator?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Joel Kodrachi for closing remarks.

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Joel Quargauchi
Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Quartz

Thank you everyone for joining today's call. And I want to close by reiterating that Quad remains steadfast in our strategic vision, leveraging our integrated marketing platform to unlock diversified growth, improve print and marketing efficiencies, and create meaningful value for all stakeholders. With that, thank you again and have a great day. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

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