11/8/2024

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Operator

All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, followed by the number one on your touch down phone. To withdraw your question, please press star, followed by the number one again. I would now like to turn the conference over to Samir Rathod, Vice President of Investor Relations and Market Intelligence. Please go ahead.

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Samir Rathod

Hello and good morning. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our third quarter results. Jim Kessler, our Chief Executive Officer, and Eric Garen, our Chief Financial Officer, are with me on the call. The following discussion will include forward-looking statements, which can be identified by such words as expect, believe, estimate, anticipate, plan, intend, opportunity, and similar expressions. Comments that are not a statement of fact, including but not limited to projections of future earnings, revenue, gross transaction value, debt, potential partnerships, and other items, and business and market trends are considered forward-looking and involve risk and uncertainties. The risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ significantly from such forward-looking statements are detailed in our new release issued this morning, as well as our most recent quarterly report and annual report on Form 10-K, which are available on the Investor Relations website, and Edgar and Cedar. On this call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, including forward-looking non-GAAP financial measures. With identification of non-GAAP financial measures, the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, and the applicable reconciliation of the two, see our new release, Form 10-K, Form 10-Q, posted on our website. We are unable to present quantitative reconciliation of forward-looking non-GAAP financial measures, as management cannot predict all necessary components. Investors are cautious not to place undue reliance on forward-looking non-GAAP financial measures. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Jim Kessler. Jim?

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Jim Kessler

Thanks, Samir, and good morning to everyone joining the call. I want to begin by expressing my gratitude to our exceptional team for consistently over-delivering on our commitments and delivering outstanding results to our partners and customers. RB Global's third quarter highlights our commitment to disciplined execution, with adjusted EBITDA declining less than 1% in the face of a 7% decline in gross transactional value. As previously discussed, GTV was driven by challenging comps in our commercial construction and transportation sector and the impacts of previously announced customer loss in our automotive sector. Let's first discuss the commercial construction and transportation sector. As mentioned in prior quarters, partners and customers continue to evaluate business conditions in the face of macro uncertainty and have adopted a -and-see approach to their equipment disposition needs. Historically, these -and-see moments are brief. However, they do cause headwinds in our marketplace for the supply of higher ASP assets. The current environment, combined with the elevated volumes and prices we experienced last year due to the lingering impacts from COVID, has created difficult -on-year comparisons that mask the underlying progress of our growth initiatives. We believe the best view of the business trajectory is to compare to 2022 or a two year stack, with construction and transportation GTV increase in approximately 10% in this timeframe. Typically, the -and-see periods are short in nature, given that the market either accepts the slowdown and partners execute a deep lead-in strategy or partners gain confidence that there will be a re-acceleration and start purchasing new equipment, which stimulates the trade-in cycle and drives decisions on aged equipment. In either scenario, we are the ideal partner to help our customers navigate their fleet management needs. We continue to focus on driving sustainable growth and have expanded our North American sales organization by approximately 10% -over-year on a net basis. As productivity continues to ramp up these investments, we believe we'll be in a solid position to capitalize when the broader macro environment resolves lower or higher. We understand our partners' challenges and are dedicated to supporting them through these complex times. Now let's move to the automotive sector. Our teammates' year-round dedication to CAD preparedness ensured a rapid and seamless response to the recent hurricanes. Our thoughts are with those affected by these devastating storms, and as a proud member of these communities, RV Global remains dedicated to helping where we live and work. We supported local charities in the most impacted areas, providing relief to those most affected. Additionally, Ritchie Brothers played a critical role in aiding Duke's energy's restoration efforts in Florida by providing space for over 4,000 line workers and their equipment at our Orlando yard. The strategic location allowed for quick mobilization to restore power to Central Florida once the hurricanes passed. We were grateful for the heroic efforts of everyone involved in helping bring these communities back. I was incredibly proud to witness our team's dedication firsthand during my recent visit to Florida. Through our Trust and Transparency program, we have collaborated closely with our partners, working -by-side, and communicating in real time during these CAD events. I have personally received several emails from our partners, and they were very pleased with our agility and excellence in execution. IA has several strategic advantages in responding to CAD events, ensuring we can over-deliver our commitments. One advantage lies in our one team, all in culture, that enables a flexible and adaptable response from our teammates. For these hurricanes, approximately 15% of our response team comprise Ritchie Brothers team members, supporting recovery and build conspection efforts. Additionally, we have the strategic option to utilize our Ritchie Brothers Orlando yard as additional capacity. However, thanks to our ample existing CAD capacity in the region, we confidently managed operations without needing to exercise this option. Our carrier partners are also harnessing the power of our IAA inspection services to accelerate total loss decision-making. At the core of this service is our exclusive IAA Deoqo Score, a -in-edge machine vision AI that analyzes vehicle images to quantify damage, a capability unmatched in a salvage industry. Complementing this is IAA Deoqo Value, an AI-driven tool that enables Deoqo Value estimates, all hydrated by our large and growing data set. Our technology further assesses flood damage vehicles, capturing critical details like waterline levels and matte wetness. Our mission is to streamline the virtual adjusting process, making it faster, more straightforward and more accurate. Thanks to our investment in technology and innovation, our partners have significantly reduced upstream assignment cycle times by over a week during Hurricane Helene. We continue to drive premium price performance for our partners by continuously improving our process and technology. In the third quarter, we continue to make progress in attracting new international buyers to our marketplace, achieving a record high percentage of vehicles sold to international buyers in the automotive sector. Our efforts resulted in average selling prices of salvaged U.S. insurance vehicles increasing by 1% year over year, which continues to be an industry-leading outcome. Our exceptional performance and commitment to trust and transparency is resonating with our partners. We believe we are gaining salvage market share here in the fourth quarter. A key element of our international automotive salvage growth strategy is to enter new markets with partners that provide immediate scale. We're excited to announce that we have been selected by some court group, a leading insurance provider in the Australian market as their sole salvage provider. We expect to execute a multi-year contract and start supporting our partner in the late first quarter or early second quarter of 2025. After we finalize contract terms and some court group obtains final approval of those terms from its board, we anticipated that this partnership could provide up to 65,000 units annually once we are fully operational. We plan to accommodate this volume by strategically blending new greenfield locations and utilizing existing Ritchie Brothers locations and third-party yards. We were selected for this partnership for three key reasons. First, the Ritchie Brothers strong existing and expanding presence in Australia, along with our strong brand reputation, served as the cornerstone in earning our partners confidence and our ability to over-deliver on our commitments. Second, IAA is widely recognized as a premier global brand in salvage solutions. And third, IAA's -in-edge industry-leading digital technology for processing vehicles combined with our unmatched suite of auxiliary services set us apart. I will now pass the call to Eric to review our financial performance and outlook.

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Eric

Thank you, Jim. Before we start, I'd like to highlight that we've updated our disaggregated revenue presentation to enhance clarity and provide investors with a more transparent view of how management evaluates business performance. Total GTB declined by 7%. Automotive GTB decreased by 1%. Driven by stable unit volume and a 1% drop in average price for vehicles sold. Notably, this 1% outpaced the broader industry's more significant downturn. Unit volumes remain stable as growth from existing partners offset headwinds from the previously announced customer loss. As Jim noted, on a net basis, we believe we are continuing to gain market share in the salvage industry sequentially here in the fourth quarter. Overall volume in the salvage industry continues to see secular growth due to higher repair costs and lower used vehicle prices, leading to an increase in the total loss ratio. In the third quarter, DCT Intelligent Solutions estimated that the total loss ratio increased nearly 180 basis points to approximately 21.7%, compared to .9% in the same period last year. GTB in the commercial construction and transportation sector decreased by 10%. Driven by a decline in the average price per lot sold, partially offset by a 19% growth in lot volumes. Average price per lot sold declined due to both asset mix and continued deflation in asset values. Asset mix headwinds stem from lot volume growth from rental and transportation industries, where asset values are intrinsically at lower ASPs. Excluding the impact of the yellow corporation bankruptcy, GTB decline in the commercial construction and transportation sector would have been approximately 14%. Moving to service revenue. Service revenue increased by 1%, driven by our service revenue take rate expanding approximately 150 basis points to 21.5%. Partially offset by a decline in GTB, service revenue take rate expansion was driven by growth in our marketplace services and a higher average buyer fee rate. Moving to adjusted EBITDA. Adjusted EBITDA declined due to lower levels of GTB and lower inventory returns. Partially offset by an expansion in our service revenue take rate. As we anticipated certain headwinds this quarter, we took decisive action by launching a targeted discretionary cost reduction initiative. This was in addition to our ongoing strategic focus on operational efficiency. Through these efforts, adjusted EBITDA declined by 1% in the face of a 7% decline in GTB. We remain dedicated to efficiency and disciplined execution. However, we are not sacrificing any investments in strategic areas that position us for long term growth. You can measure our progress by seeing adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of GTB to .8% compared to .4% the prior year. Adjusted earnings per share decreased by 1% on a slightly higher adjusted tax rate. Our solid operational performance and continued debt pay down drove a one-tenth of a turn decline in our adjusted net debt to trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA to approximately 1.7 times compared to the second quarter. Consistent with our capital allocation strategy, we plan to continue paying down term loan A for the remainder of the year. Moving to the outlook, we maintain our full year GTB guidance range from 0 to 2%. However, given the various puts and takes we see with the hurricane-related volumes and continued pressure on commercial construction and transportation ASPs, we think we will be at the lower end of the range. For adjusted EBITDA, we are increasing the lower end of the guidance range to $1.235 billion from $1.22 billion due to the solid third quarter results and continued attention to cost efficiency. Please note that our guidance incorporates incremental operating expenses incurred in the fourth quarter associated with the recent hurricane. With that, let's open the call for questions.

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Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. I would like to remind everyone for one question, one follow-up. Should you have a question, press star followed by the one on your touchdown phone and you will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to withdraw, please press star followed by the number one again. If you are using a speakerphone, can you lift the handset before pressing anything? Our first question comes from the line of Sabahat Khan from RBC. Please go ahead.

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Jim

Great. Thanks and good morning. Could you maybe, I guess, given where we are sort of in the macro, some of the trends that you have in each of your segments, can you just maybe share some perspectives on what yours, particularly in the commercial side, what you're seeing into 2025, any early perspectives? I know you shared some thoughts on customers being a bit cautious, but I'm just wondering what do you expect maybe over the medium term instead in terms of disposition activity given maybe the view that some of your larger partners may have on the Outlook banks?

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Jim Kessler

Great question. I'll just give you a very high level that I'm going to pass it to Samir since he is our resident expert as we think about everything Outlook and customers. But look, for us, our main focus is as we talk to our partners, how do we help them deliver in whatever economic environment we're in? So our team is really focused on the situation we currently have this quarter, next quarter, listening to what their needs are and how do we support that and add as much value to their P&L as we can. And Samir, I'll pass it to you just for some outlook.

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Samir Rathod

Yeah. Hey, Saba. I think overall, we're not seeing anything different compared to what you hear from other companies. Obviously, construction, OEM sales are weaker. People are still assessing the Outlook. I think from our perspective, again, like Jim said, we're focused on servicing our customers and partners best we can regardless of what happens. And remember, we are investing in organic growth initiatives to drive secular growth. And so Jim did mention that we grew the North America sales force by about 10%.

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Jim

Great. Maybe at a high level, if you can just maybe talk through, I know you've got a number of initiatives going on, efficiency, things like that. As you kind of look ahead to the next year, if you can just talk about where you are on the margin improvement journey, maybe milestones we should keep an eye on or big buckets of margin improvement opportunities that you think we should see come through over the next year.

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Jim Kessler

Yeah, really nothing. We're not going to get very specific items, but just go back to the comments we've been making for the past quarter. For us, as we think about our business, we're very focused on three things. How do we grow the top line? How do we expand margins? And how do we do this at the most effective structure that we can? And how do we optimize the business? So for us, this isn't a one or two quarter thing. This is a journey that we're always going to focus on those three things. Optimizing our business and getting as much flow through is just a very critical item in our journey, and it's something that we're always going to focus on.

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Jim

Thanks very much.

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Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Krista Freeson from CIBC. Please go ahead.

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Krista Freeson

It sounds like things are obviously progressing quite well on the IA side, especially with your announcement on the call. Can you just speak to some of the core KPIs of the business and how far are we away from where you'd like those to get to?

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Jim Kessler

Yeah, so it's Jim. So I'll jump in. So I think we're 18 months into the acquisition. I am very proud from the KPI standpoint of where we're at, and we call it SLA, our strategic agreements with our partners. We are industry-leading numbers, and we have done it consistently for about 12 months now. I truly believe we are driving more value to our partners than anyone else, and I believe our partners are seeing that in the share that we have gained. But just to answer your first question, really what we focus on is advanced storage charges, cycle time, how quickly can you get a title, gross returns, and then ultimately that will calculate a net return for our partners. And they're really the four buckets, and there's other underlying pieces like Firebase and how do you grow it. That's normal in the marketplace, but they're really the buckets that we look at and the that we're driving. And I believe we're at the very top end of that range, and our focus right now is consistently over delivering on those items, which I believe we are doing for our partners.

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Krista Freeson

Great, thank you. And maybe just one follow-up. You spoke to your capital allocation priorities for the remainder of the year, but as we look out to 2025, how are you thinking about capital allocation at that point? Are you maybe focusing a little bit more on some talk in M&A, or what are your thoughts there?

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Eric

Yeah, so thank you for the question. For the remainder of 2024, our focus is on the Terminal A paydown. As we laid out a couple of quarters ago, our capital allocation framework, we will continue to focus on investing in the business, both from technology and from our estate footprint. We will maintain paying down on our Terminal A, and then we are always looking at M&A and our M&A funnel. So we'll continue to look at tuck in opportunities for the business where it makes sense for us.

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Krista Freeson

Perfect. Congrats on the quarter. I'll jump back on the queue.

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Eric

Thank you.

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Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Barry. That's the keynote from Barrington. Please go ahead.

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Jim

Good morning, Jim, Eric, and Samir. Two questions. First of all, Eric, it looked like there was an absolute decline in SG&A year over year of about $26 million. Is that a function of what you talked about where you went into a mode of, you know, we really got to control expenses this quarter, or is there, there just something in last year's numbers that jacked them up and made the comparisons easier?

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Eric

Hey, Gary, how are you? Yeah, there's a couple components of that. As Jim and I have been articulating since I've gotten here is we are focused on operating efficiency. So that is going to continue to be a focus. Also, in the third quarter, we did focus on some more discretionary spending. As we knew, there were some headwinds on the GTV side as I articulated in my prepared remarks. So those are real initiatives that year over year are changes. There is a piece of it year over year. I won't give an exact percentage, but it's not the majority of it that would be related to bonus attainment, right, when you look year over year. But overall, it's really the initiatives that we've put in place to focus on operating efficiencies for the business.

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Jim

Okay. And then my second question deals with the new business with Suncorp in Australia. Could you maybe say how did that come to you? I wasn't, you know, was that kind of maybe a cross cell between what you're doing on the heavy equipment side that you were able to, you know, get this contract because you don't have any operations in Australia right now on the salvage side. And was it put out as an RFP or was it just this is just a sole negotiation with you? Look, I

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Jim Kessler

would just say from a Suncorp standpoint, they manage their business like, you know, any of the insurance carriers in the US. So it was kind of a normal RFP process that they go through. We were known from our Ritchie Brothers side of the business over in Australia, which is a big marketplace for us. The great thing about Australia, they operate their business very similar to how we operate in Canada. So IAEA of Canada and the tools and the technology and everything that was built. So as the RFP came together, it became very obvious that we had a tool that not only Suncorp, but I think all insurance partners in Australia will have an interest in. And I'm very happy that the team was able to get awarded the contract. Okay, thank you.

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Operator

Comes from the line of Craig Kenison from Baird. Please go ahead.

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Craig Kenison

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I believe you mentioned an increase of 10% in your territory manager base. I'm wondering if you can just comment on sort of the productivity curve for the typical salesperson and when we might expect that to translate into GTV.

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Jim Kessler

Yeah, so it's Jim. And the first thing, the 10% as we think about the increase in salespeople, we're constantly going to be looking for, you know, do we have holes in our model? Are we not in conversations with certain partners because we just don't have feet in the street to have it on the regional side of the business. And we constantly look at that map and where should we add someone where there's equipment. We don't get into the very detail of exactly as the curve, but for us, one of the best investments we can make is on the salesperson side. It's a very clear you pay X in salary, you know how much GTV they can generate. And when we hire the right person with the right personality, that happens pretty quickly. And it's going to be something that we constantly invest in. And also on the other side, when you don't make the right hire, it's also something that you can manage pretty quickly too and get the right person into that position.

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Craig Kenison

Thanks, Jim. And then a while back, I think you had invested more in inside sales and sort of changed the territory manager model. Could you provide an update on the current inside outside model?

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Jim Kessler

Yeah, yeah. So we still have both in our model. The one thing that's apparent in the region side of the business, it's a very much high touch type of business. There are some customers as different age groups and progress in their careers that prefer a self-service model, which we have built with our technology and having the inside sales team for support. But there's still a demographic that is out there that controls a lot of the market share that still prefers a high touch. So we're constantly investing in the future. But the one thing in this industry, it takes a while for it to change. So we want to make sure as it transforms, we have the right technology and the right infrastructure in place. But we do realize this is a high touch type of environment.

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Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Blake Greenhodge from BSA. Please go ahead.

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Blake Greenhodge

Hey, guys. Yeah, now that we're past the election, just looking back to Trump's first term, there's tightness in the used equipment channel in 2017. So I'm trying to get a sense of what you guys are thinking about for a second term in terms of similarities and differences. Yeah, look, it's

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Jim Kessler

Jim. I wish I could answer that question, right? I'd probably be doing a different job if I could answer that accurately of what's going to happen. But I think in some of our comments that you can see, we believe a lot of the macro trends are in our favor of what's going on when you look across and what happened in the election. I think that's just another thing that ultimately is in our favor for our industry. But we're not going to comment on any kind of speculation that we really can't control.

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Blake Greenhodge

Yeah, sir. And then second question. Any sense of capex in 2025? Seems like you guys are sort of stabilizing and starting to win some business in IAA. So could we see a step up or just trying to get thoughts there?

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Eric

Yeah, so we're still going through our 2025 budgeting process. But there will be some investment related to the Suncorp deal that we just announced today. So we'll go through the capital allocation process and we'll come out with guidance on our Q4 call. Great, thanks.

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Jim Kessler

Yeah, and the only thing I would add on top of that with Eric is just as a reminder, in the US, we have capacity from the IAA side. Unfortunately, we had to announce a loss last year. So we do have capacity. So to Eric's point, Australia, of course, going into a new market, you'll see that. But when you think about US and Canada and gaining market share, just keep in the back of your mind the capacity that was lost that we want to fill back up before we have to get into new capital.

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Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Maxine Seidkamp from NDS. Please go ahead.

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Eric

Hi, good morning, gentlemen. Hello. Yes, hi, can you hear me?

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Craig Kenison

Yep, you're good.

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Eric

Okay, perfect. Thank you. Do you mind maybe commenting a little bit on take rate because that metric continues to trend higher? How should you think about this over the medium term?

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Jim Kessler

Yeah, so I'll start and then Eric, if you want to chime in with anything. Look, we have a process where we evaluate take rate and it goes with a bunch of things, inflation, competition, everything that goes through. So we're going to make sure we're in a very competitive position as we think about it. We have an annual process that we make an evaluation of what should we do with it. And we're going to continue that. We look at it on a very consistent basis to see what's happening in the market and what is competition doing. And again, look, I just want to go back to our three priorities. We want to grow GTB, we want to expand margins, and we want to do it as efficiently as possible. And take rate plays a role in that. And it's something that we constantly evaluate. And, you know, some of it, you know, we have to look at other people of what decisions they're making and that could influence what we decide to do in the future. But we're very happy where we're at, at this moment. And it's something that we're constantly going to look at.

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Eric

Good. And is there any comment or call you can provide on, you know, sort of market share dynamic in North America right now, Jim Dunn, Chancellor?

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Jim Kessler

Look, we're not going to comment specifically on market share. I think you can see from our notes that we believe we're gaining share. And that's probably the comment that we're going to make. Our focus for market share, and this applies to both sides of our business. And when we think about Ritchie Brothers and IAA, what our value is, is what the value we can drive to our partners and what they can see in their P&L. And we feel like as long as we're over delivering our commitments and we're driving that value, in partnership with them, that's going to be good for us and ultimately help us grow into the future. But what we're focused on is what we can control. And what we can control is how do we drive value for our partners. And that's what we're laser focused on at RB Global.

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Eric

Okay, that's great. That's it from me. Thank you so much.

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Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Phoebe from Roe v. Coats. Please go ahead.

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John Phoebe

Thanks for my question, guys. Jim, I know you just answered the question about market share, but I have to try this one. Last quarter, you talked about the win that you had in the second tier of the market. This quarter, you're talking about Suncor. Are there other things, particularly in North America, that whether they're pilots or whether they're tests or just things along that line that give you confidence that you can have more trophies on the case next year? I just have to ask that. And I think investors do care. And as you announced things, I think there's a hope that you guys will give more color on other things that you're working on or momentum that's in the marketplace. Just curious if there are other tests or pilots underway that give you confidence that you can gain further share into next year. Thanks.

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Jim Kessler

No, I love the different ways everyone asks the same question. We definitely appreciate it. Look, what gives me confidence is after 18 months and talking to all of our partners and understanding their needs, what we're driving for our partners right now, and look, we talked about it, ASPs being up 1%. When you multiply 1% over the number of cars that exist in the salvage industry, that is a very big number that has a lot of zeros behind it. As long as we're focused on those, there's always going to be a pilot, someone that wants to test something and do something. What we're trying to announce and give insight to, because people get to make their choice. As you do a pilot, you get it, you don't. That doesn't dictate it. But what we know for future market share value, if I'm driving the four key things that our partners want for net returns on the IAEA side, and also there's some similarities to the Ritchie Brothers side as you think about gross returns and everything else that our partners need and them drive their business, we're laser focused on communicating with our partners and people that we do business with, people that we don't do business with, of the value that we're driving and the potential that it could equate so they can see it in their P&L. We're not just saying numbers, just say numbers. We want to be able to say, this is the number you're going to see and pick whatever millions of dollars that is in this component, and you're going to see your total loss ratio in your P&L. If you're a public company, EPS, whatever it is, you're going to see that drive through. I think as all good business people, they're looking for partners that can do that. I believe we're showing that right now, and that's what gives me confidence in the future of we're going to have market share. There's always going to be opportunities to do pilots, but ultimately you have to show, can you drive value for my business? I believe we're doing that right now for our existing partners. I think it creates interest in partners that we're not doing business with today.

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John Phoebe

I appreciate that. Then just a follow-up question. Just on Suncor, as you put that business in action next year, are there any big upfront costs that might dilute the margin contribution to that business next year? Then also on the Salesforce ads, 10%. How long until those folks typically become productive?

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Jim Kessler

Good question. I'll start, and then I'll let Eric chime in on any of the upfront costs or anything with the Australia entry into the market. But really, when I think about international, just in general, we have a playbook of technology, tools, process that we can bring to the salvage market. What we built over the last year is, okay, what is that playbook? That helped us present it as we were going through the RFP process. What I love about entering into Australia, we already have a footprint, we already have a support team. Think about marketing and buyer demand. That already exists. Entering into a market where Ritchie Brothers already has a support presence is a great thing. Now, you still have two different buyers sometimes, so you have to drive demand and all that stuff. I'm really happy, but what I'm most excited about is we have a playbook. Instead of theory, this is going to put execution against it in actual, which gets me excited about other market potentials that we have into the future. Then, Eric, if you want to answer the capital, then I can come back and talk about the sales productivity.

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Eric

Yeah, no problem. EBITDA, it will not have a significant for material impact on margin. I think on the real estate side, like we've said in the past, we will evaluate what's the real estate footprint for that business. Some of that may be purchased, some of that may be leased, but we'll put that through our decision tree. As we evaluate that, that may have impact on our capital spend from a real estate perspective.

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Jim Kessler

Then from the sales productivity, look, I'm not going to get into specific numbers, but you can think about what is an average salary of a typical TM. Look at a GTV number, look at our take rate, and it doesn't take a lot of equipment to be able to break even pretty quickly for a territory manager. We're not going to get into specifics of what those numbers are, but you can use some basic averages and look what we have. You can see it doesn't take you a lot of months to figure out when break even takes place for a TM.

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Operator

Again,

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spk02

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Operator

a question? Thank you, Dr. Star, followed by the number one. Our next session comes from the line, John Dixon from the capital market. Please go ahead.

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John Dixon

Morning, and thanks for taking my questions. Just to start off wondering about the modest bump to 2020 core guidance. Is this a function of improving margins and take rates that we've seen, or are you starting to see some higher volume from the recent CAD events here in Q4?

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Eric

Yeah, when we look at the margin, as I indicated in my prepared remarks, we knew that Q3 was going to be a little bit more of a challenge, so we took the initiative around some additional discretionary spend reduction, and that's going to continue into Q4. And then when I looked at the Q3 performance, we did a little bit better on the EBITDA line, and I wanted to make sure we captured that in our full year guidance with one quarter remaining. So we feel really good about tightening that range.

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Jim Kessler

I'll give just a little bit of color just around CAD events. CAD events are one of those weird things where from a top line, it's a good thing, but depending on how big the CAD events are from a profitability EBITDA standpoint, you know, it really depends on your model and how do you operate in it. So this was a decent sized CAD event for us, and I'm very happy of how the team handled it and how we performed for our partners, and I've received multiple emails about it, but I wouldn't think about a CAD event. It helps you on the top line, but I wouldn't think about it as a normal profitable type of event, especially not compared to the daily selling of sales vehicles.

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John Dixon

Got it, thanks. And then based on your CAPEX guidance for the year, it implies a pretty big spendier in Q4. Wondering if we can see that come down a bit for the year. And then more specifically, where's the majority of your capital going? Is it toward land purchases or more investing in technology and services?

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Eric

Yeah, we don't provide the specific split on technology versus land, and we will flex it like we talked about earlier. We put the properties through our strategic kind of decision tree, and if we have to flex and spend a little bit more on property, we'll do that, and then the same on our technology roadmap. So it is a pretty robust and evergreen process. We go through the year. To answer your question on Q4, we're maintaining our current guidance, and we'll see how the year progresses to make sure we're within that range.

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John Dixon

Got it, I appreciate the responses, and I'll turn it back, thanks.

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Eric

Yeah,

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Eric

no problem. Yeah, thank you.

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spk02

Thank you. That concludes our Q&A

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Operator

session. I'd then like to turn it over back to Jim Kessler for final closing comments.

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Jim Kessler

Thank you so much. First off, I just want to make sure, you know, going through the first large CAT event since I've been over on the IAEA side and for the Ritchie Brothers side, I want to thank all of our 8,000 teammates for all their efforts, and I've been unbelievably impressed how consistently we're over-delivering on our commitments to our partners, which I believe is ultimately the thing that we need to do to be able to accomplish, you know, growing our market, expanding margins, and operating efficiently. So I want to thank everyone for all your hard work. And, you know, secondly, thank everyone for taking the time on the call today. I really want to make sure everyone hears how excited we are about the future potential that the whole management team and everyone here at RB Global sees in front of us. And just wanted to thank you one more time, and everyone have a great day, and hope you enjoy the weekend. Thank you so much.

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spk02

This is our conference call for today, and I'll see you next time.

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