8/7/2020

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Conference Operator
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the RBC Bearings first quarter fiscal 2021 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants' lines are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr. Brooks Hamilton, Investory Lakeshore. Thank you. Please go ahead, sir.

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Brooks Hamilton
Investor Relations, Investory Lakeshore

Good morning. Thank you for joining us for RBC Bearings Fiscal 2021 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. With me on the call today are Dr. Michael J. Hartnett, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and Daniel A. Bergeron, Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Chief Operating Officer. Before beginning today's call, let me remind you that some of the statements made today will be forward-looking and are made under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those projected or implied due to a variety of factors. We refer you to RBC Bearings' recent filings with the SEC for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact the company's future operating results and financial conditions. These factors are also described in greater detail in the press release and on the company's website. In addition, reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial information is included as part of the release and is available on the company's website. Now I'll turn the call over to Dr. Hartnett.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Thank you, Brooks, and good morning, and welcome to RBC's first quarter fiscal 21 conference call. Net sales for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 were $156.5 million versus $182.7 million for the same period last year, a decrease of 14.3%. For the first quarter of 2021, sales of industrial products represented 37% of net sales with aerospace products at 63%. Gross margin for the quarter was $59.5 million or 38% of net sales. This compares to $70.7 million or 38.7% for the same period last year. Adjusted operating income was $29.9 million, 19.1% of net sales compared to last year's number of $38.5 million or 21.1% of sales. Adjusted EBITDA was $43.8 million and 28% of net sales compared to 50.8 million and 27.8% of net sales in the same period last year. And we ended up the quarter with 143.6 million of cash and 23.1 million of debt. We entered this quarter with limited visibility and uncertainty due to the impact of the pandemic on the economy and travel. We continued our extraordinary measures to protect the health and well-being of our employees We continue to operate all of our plants in a safe manner and experienced a few foreign plant mandatory shutdowns that lasted a few weeks at most. Sales of industrial products were down 13.3% from last year. The prime variance from last year fell in the natural resources markets Mining and Oil, and in general, industrial activity. Sales to the industrial aftermarket were down 12.3%, driven by the main industrial distributors in both the United States and Europe. A few quarters back, we discussed a few green shoots, which we started to see the benefit in Q1 this year, mainly in wind, SEMICON, military vehicles, and high-speed trains. Commercial and Defense First Quarter 2021 Net Sales were down 14.9%. Aerospace Defense OEM and Aftermarket increased 11.9%, offset by a decrease of 21.4% in Commercial Aircraft OEM and Aftermarket. Important contributors for Aerospace Defense were helicopters, engines, missiles, and airframes for jets. The uncertainty around commercial aircraft travel due to the pandemic continues to put pressure on the commercial aircraft builders and their supply chain. The major airframe producers appear to have a clearer view on the build rates over the next 12 plus months. That in turn is setting our requirements to meet their expectations. We continue reworking and fine-tuning our production schedules and capacity to align our supply of our products to the new demand levels. Regarding our second quarter, we are expecting sales to be between $148 and $152 million. And that is, of course, a difficult number to project. First of all, it's challenging to guess what the GDP is going to be in our second fiscal quarter, the third calendar quarter. I've seen industrial expansion numbers as high as 20% for this period. Much of our business is in and out the same day, and it never hits backlog. Basically, we really never have been in a forecasting situation like this, so we're trying to play the ball in the middle of the fairway as best we can, and hence we came up with that guidance. I'll now turn the call over to Dan for more detail on the financial performance.

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Daniel A. Bergeron
Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Chief Operating Officer, RBC Bearings

Thanks, Mike. SG&A for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 was $26.8 million compared to $30.1 million for the same period last year. The decrease was mainly due to $4.1 million of lower personnel related costs offset by $0.8 million of other costs. As a percentage of net sales, SG&A was 17.1% for the first quarter fiscal 2021 compared to 16.5% for the same period last year. Other operating expense for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 was expense of $3.8 million compared to expense of $2.1 million for the same period last year. For the first quarter of fiscal 2021, other operating expenses were comprised mainly of $2.5 million in amortization of intangible assets and $1.1 million of restructuring costs and related items and $0.2 million of other items. Other operating expense for the same period last year consisted mainly of $2.3 million in the amortization of tangible assets, offset by $0.2 million of other income. Operating income was $28.8 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 compared to operating income of $38.5 million for the same period in fiscal 2020. On an adjusted basis, operating income would have been $29.9 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 compared to adjusted operating income of $38.5 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2020. Other non-operating expenses were zero for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 compared to $0.2 million for the same period last year. For the first quarter of fiscal 2021, other, sorry, it was .01. Other non-operating expenses comprised $0.1 million of foreign exchange offset by 0.1 of other items. Other non-operating expenses for the first quarter of fiscal 2020 consisted primary of $0.4 million of foreign exchange loss offset by $0.2 million of other items. For the first quarter of fiscal 2021, the company reported net income of $22.7 million compared to net income of $30.5 million for the same period last year. On an adjusted basis, net income would have been $23.6 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 compared to $30.5 million for the same period last year. Deluded earnings per share was 91 cents per share for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 compared to $1.23 per share for the same period last year. And on an adjusted basis, diluted earnings per share for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 would have been 95 cents per share compared to an adjusted diluted EPS of $1.23 per share for the same period last year. Turning to cash flow, the company generated $48.4 million in cash from operating activities in the first quarter. of fiscal 2021 compared to $40.1 million for the same period last year. Capital expenditures were $3.9 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2021 compared to $12 million for the same period last year. And as Mike's already said, total debt as of the end of June was $23.1 million, and we had $143.6 million of cash on the balance sheet. So now I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.

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Conference Operator
Operator

As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. To withdraw your question, press the pound key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Pete Skibitsky with Olympic Global. Your line is now open.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

Hey, good morning, guys. Nice quarter in light of the environment we're all in here. Thank you. Yeah, so like you touched on, Mike, you guys have kind of the updated production forecast from Boeing and Airbus, and I'm just trying to get a better feel of, you know, did your first quarter, did you see kind of, you know, the maximum commercial aero, you know, headwinds that you think you will, especially on the OE side, and you just kind of, you know, you had those same headwinds, the balance of this year, and then the comps get easy pretty early in fiscal 22, or, you know, had you not slowed down your production forecast Quite the same way as we might see in the back half of 21, if I'm being clear.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, well, I think for the first quarter, you know, this all happened in March, right? I mean, this whole pandemic thing. And so, you know, by March, I mean, you're literally moving into, you know, your first quarter production rate. And you can't be moving into your first quarter production rate if you don't have all of your materials inbound. So, you know, basically had all our materials inbound. And so then, you know, it's almost, it's impossible to change, to reflect the change in demand in your production schedules in that short a time period.

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Daniel A. Bergeron
Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Chief Operating Officer, RBC Bearings

So we ran the normal production schedules and

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

and started planning how to run the balance of the year as best possible given, you know, a tremendous amount of calculus that we went through business by business on, you know, where the baseline is and where our production rates should be set. And that kind of determines what our cost needs to be in order to maintain the margin performance that we like to maintain. You know, all of that churn happened in the first quarter. I don't know if I answered your question.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

Well, so if we think about the second quarter, sequentially into the second quarter, you're not getting down very much. It's almost close to flat in the second quarter. So are you saying Commercial Arrow might be down more year over year in the second quarter? Maybe it offsets a bit from Industrial getting stronger?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, I think Industrial gets a little stronger, Commercial Arrow less. kind of backs down a notch or two. And, you know, just our view on that, I mean, you know, it's really, it's clear to everybody the carriers are going through a really rough patch of road right now, right? Everybody sees it. And I think it's just as clear that the people are sick of being confined and they congregate and party whenever they get a chance. So I think what that's telling us is with the release of the vaccine by Pfizer or Moderna or whoever else of the other 100 people that are working on it later in the quarter, later in the year, which I expect it looks like it's going to be sort of an October kind of timing at the earliest, you know, things will get better fast. Unfortunately, many of the carriers have failed, the smaller ones. But the demand for aircraft capacity we expect to exceed supply. So just because there's not as many carriers and the people that are running the carrier lines are stressed financially. So ticket prices will go up. That will draw new money into the industry. And I think this is going to happen fast, certainly within the next six to nine months. We expect a huge turnaround. And then I think when you get to the builders, Boeing and Airbus, they're going to have the opposite problem because their supply chain has been damaged. They're in triage mode right now trying to figure out which of their suppliers financially are going to survive and how to reallocate statements of work to what they consider the survivors. We know for sure from the discussions that we've had with some of these big builders that we're in the winner's column. And so we expect a considerable expansion of our statement of work. So in between now and then, we're going to restructure our cost base to run at this new level to maintain some pretty decent margins. And we expect towards the other end of this year to see things improving on an accelerated basis.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

That's great. That's great. A couple questions out of that, and then I'll get back to you. But, I mean, can you retain gross margins at 38% or above the balance of this year? Do you anticipate?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

We're going to try to do that. There's nothing flashing at us that tells us that we can't.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

Okay. And then with regard to – oh, go ahead. Sorry.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, we have some very healthy businesses in – and, you know, about 45% of the company that they're doing extraordinarily well expanding margins and growing. So that's a helpful base and are independent of any of this nonsense.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

Yeah. Okay. And just on like sort of gaining share. Will it come strictly from gaining statements of work, or do you anticipate buying distressed assets either on your own, or maybe the OEMs ask you to pick up some distressed players out there? How are you guys thinking about that?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

You know, we... We aren't seeing distressed assets that are attractive to us. We are seeing distressed assets, but they're not attractive to us. So whether that comes full circle is to be seen. We'll know at another time. But we're not expecting that. We are expecting to pick up statements of work.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

Okay, got it. I'll get back in queue with somebody else. Thanks, guys.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Yep. Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, that's star, then one to ask a question. Our next question comes from Michael Charmoli with Truth Securities.

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Michael Charmoli
Analyst, Truth Securities

Your line is now open. Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Nice quarter here in light of everything. Mike, I guess I just got a Try and figure out a little bit more on commercial aerospace. I mean, you know, even what you just said, a six to nine month downturn. You know, we're hearing, you know, multi-year downturn. You know, it seems like most of your customers are reporting that their OEM build revenues are down, you know, far greater than their expectations in the 60 percent range. We're seeing inventory destocking. I know, you know, just as early as last week, Quarterly Call, which was May, you guys were talking a little bit more optimistic about Boeing and build rates. I'm just struggling to see or figure out where you guys are getting this confidence from. It sounded like you were producing on normal schedules, but we've seen rates come down. Can you give us a sense of what you're producing at across some of your biggest programs, like the 8-7, the MAX, and I know you said Arrow would be down, but it just seems like some of these OEM headwinds are going to be pretty persistent for some time here.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, well, we're producing at a rate we're attempting to produce at a rate that's slightly lower than the build rate that the builders have advised us. So Just because I know that there's some inventory in the system, I'd like to get that inventory relieved out of the system. I just don't want to push more in there. We've basically restructured our costs plant by plant to operate efficiently at those levels.

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Michael Charmoli
Analyst, Truth Securities

What are the conversations like with your customers, whether it's Honeywell or Pratt or GE? I mean, are they revisiting their purchase orders with you? Because we've been seeing that some of these larger suppliers are slowing down their inventory and their materials by pretty substantial numbers. So what are the conversations like with the customers right now?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Well, they're all different. I mean, if you take Honeywell or Pratt or GE or Some of the large ones, you end up with a supply contract with that. And there's a certain statement of work. Certain parts and certain prices supply those parts. And periodically during the week, they send you a barcode of what to send them.

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Daniel A. Bergeron
Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Chief Operating Officer, RBC Bearings

So you don't really have any backlog on that stuff.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

You know, you just electronically, you get authorizations for ship, right? So part of the industry, the big guys work that way. Boeing doesn't work that way particularly, but a lot of the big subs do. And then there's other subs that are smaller and they work, you know, contract to contract where they have a, We give them a price and delivery and they give us a purchase order to deliver at that price at a certain time. Now, those people that in that second category, we actually, for the most part, it's a very confused lot of people who don't know what to order or when to order it or whether they should be what math they should be applying based upon Boeing's guidance. So we try to advise them what they should be ordering, when it should be delivered, and if they have orders that are in excess of what we see as their true requirements, we move those orders out later into this year and sometimes into next year.

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Michael Charmoli
Analyst, Truth Securities

Okay. Okay. And then what... What about just on the a couple of quarters ago, you kind of gave your view on, you know, how the max rates would would kind of dovetail with the ramp of the triple seven X, you know, and we've obviously got the triple seven X being delayed. And, you know, can you give us a sense of just those two programs alone, you know, where you are on the max? I think, you know, at one point it's Certainly the direction from Boeing looks a little muddy clearly, but maybe they produce 200 next year. But where are you guys on the max? It sounded like you were more optimistic last quarter that you were going to get to that 31 a month rate. And certainly that's been pushed to 22. So what's the thoughts with that platform?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, I think the last time we talked about that with some mathematical specificity was in February. and then it was pre-pandemic. This is where they expected the MAX to run and this is where they expected the 777 and the 777X to run. This was our content and therefore this was the net result.

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Conference Operator
Operator

So all of that's changed.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

So right now we're just teeing up to what Boeing has projected for MAX build rates and 777X build rates and redid our manufacturing and sales plan in accordance with those rates. X, what we believe was too much inventory in the system. Okay, okay.

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Michael Charmoli
Analyst, Truth Securities

But it sounds like, I mean, even on the last, I mean, when we spoke in May, it sounded like, you know, I mean, they were certification by August in 31. So it just sounds like then it's lower volumes and, you know, trying to plan accordingly here. Okay. Okay. All right.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

I'll jump back in. Thanks, guys. I think it's a big picture thing. I mean, you know, if people start traveling and the air carriers get refinanced or healthier or whatever happens there, I mean, this whole thing turns around. And if that doesn't happen, then this thing doesn't turn around. And I'm believing it turns around, and it turns around in a big way. Got it. Got it.

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Michael Charmoli
Analyst, Truth Securities

All right. Thanks, guys.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yep.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Pete Skibitsky with Olympic Global. Your line is now open.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

Okay. Short list today. So, Mike, I was going to ask you what drove the strong growth in defense sales in the first quarter, but it almost sounds like it was across the board. And except for submarines, my thought is that maybe submarines really ramp in the second half for you. Would you agree with that? And any color you would add?

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Daniel A. Bergeron
Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Chief Operating Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, Dan, the submarines are in industrial, right? And for the quarter, they were up around 1.3%. We'll see the ramp on marine in the second half of our year because the Block 5-9 ship is all done and in-house, so we'll start working on those ships over the next nine months. That definitely will have a double-digit growth on that portion of the business for us.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

Okay. That's great. That's great. I want to ask one question about the segment since you guys put the cue out, which was great. The ball bearing segment, you had 29% growth in aerospace and defense in the quarter, even with kind of a tough comp. I was just wondering what kind of, in particular, drove that type of growth in that segment.

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Daniel A. Bergeron
Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Chief Operating Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, it's mainly our thin section bearing, and on the industrial side of it, it's driven by semiconductor components. and on the aerospace side, it's driven by space.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

By space, okay, okay. And then just last one for me on the industrial side. You guys have touched on it, but even coming into the first quarter, you thought you'd see kind of easier comps in the back half of the year in industrial and a return to growth there. And we saw a better PMI in June, but has anything led you guys to change that view?

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Daniel A. Bergeron
Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Chief Operating Officer, RBC Bearings

No, I think, you know, we finally started to see the first three weeks of July the incoming orders starting to pick up, which is a good sign. As Dr. Hartnett said a little earlier, our industrial side of the business, two-thirds of it's in and out in a quarter. So it's a little hard to forecast that side of the business. But we're starting to see it come back, and that's being driven by semiconductor. It's being driven by High Speed Trains, and our European entity that are going into China. It's being driven by our wind projects that we're working on, and it's being driven by military vehicles, which are in the industrial segment, which are helping push the volumes for us.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

That's great. That's great. Actually, one last one for me. On the backlog... Backlog did decline, and even kind of the book-to-bill was .7, which is low for you guys. And I know we talked about in-and-out type of business. Anything unusual there in that decline in terms of more risk heading into the second quarter or third quarter, or do you feel like everything that we – the decline in backlog is kind of in consonance with everything we've talked about thus far on the call?

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Daniel A. Bergeron
Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Chief Operating Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, no, I think it's aligned with everything we said in the call. I think it's certain portions of the longer lead time items on aerospace, as Mike has talked about, were pushed around or canceled, but that was offset by increased volumes we picked up on defense.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Okay.

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Daniel A. Bergeron
Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Chief Operating Officer, RBC Bearings

And it's never, industrials are never a big component of our backlog.

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Pete Skibitsky
Analyst, Olympic Global

Okay, okay. So if we do start to see better revenue in industrial in second quarter or third quarter, that might not necessarily show up in backlog ahead of time. Right, unless it all popped in the last month of the quarter. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay, great. Thanks for the help, guys. Yep.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Steve Barter with KeyBank Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

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Steve Barter
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Morning, guys. Morning, Steve. Mike. To your comment about the 45% of the business that's doing well right now, how's your visibility into the back half? Does it feel like those are pretty firm lines of business for the next two, three quarters?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

You're talking about the industrial side of the business?

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Steve Barter
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Yeah, you had made the earlier comment about the 45% of the business that's doing well. I think it was in response to a gross margin question.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. Oh, yeah, that's rock solid.

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Steve Barter
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Is that primarily the defense stuff that you've already mentioned, or what are some of the product lines that are looking good from a visibility standpoint?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Well, it's certainly marine. It's certainly helicopter defense. Let's see. What the heck else is in there?

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Daniel A. Bergeron
Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Chief Operating Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, we have wind in there. Semiconductor. Yeah, space. Okay.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, space and missiles.

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Steve Barter
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Are you seeing distressed competitors on the industrial side and any comments around specific opportunities to bid on new business?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Well, we've seen distressed competitors on the aerospace side for some time, and that continues to give us opportunity to bid on business. On the industrial side, the people that we compete with, by and large, are companies all big balance sheet players. And they seem to be able to get through periods like this with little pain.

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Steve Barter
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Okay. And you guys have a long track record of improving your operations over time. Just given the slowdown we're in, do you see opportunities internally to make structural or procedural changes to the operating model that you couldn't do in normal times?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, absolutely. We're going to We're going to combine some of our plan operations, which we wouldn't do when they're too busy. And we've completed one, and we're working on a second one this quarter. So, yeah, I mean, we're trying to reduce the rooftops.

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Steve Barter
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Right. So you would expect that to flow through the income statement this year then?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yes.

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Steve Barter
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Will it be material? No.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

No.

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Steve Barter
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Okay. And what about, I think in the past couple of quarters you've talked about wanting to in-house some certifications from third-party suppliers. Is that still underway?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yes, yes, it's underway. We're just delayed a little bit, and we're waiting for the auditors from the various agencies, including our OEMs, to come and sign off our processes, but our You know, our processes are in place. They're ready to be audited. They're ready to be commissioned. And they will impact our WIC levels and our margin improvements immediately.

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Steve Barter
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Okay. And then just last one for me. Free cash flow obviously strong right now with lower CapEx and working capital management. Sorry, inventory hasn't come down that much. So if revenue continues to decline mid-teens, do you have an inventory target or an idea of how much you could unlock from working cap?

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Yeah, I mean, in our current operating rates, you know, basically the discussion that we had about the first quarter, the materials were inbound and there's not much you can do to turn that around in the short term. So we ended up with excess materials, excess WIP, as we brought the plant operating expenses and throughput rates down. So we'll liquidate out those materials as time goes on and turn them into the finished product. But in terms of finished goods, we need to pare down our finished goods level. And there may be $10 or $20 million worth of material Liberation overall in that package.

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Steve Barter
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets

Okay, thanks.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Dr. Hartnett for any closing remarks.

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Dr. Michael J. Hartnett
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, RBC Bearings

Okay, well, that kind of sums up where we are right now, and I appreciate everybody's attention. Thank you for your attention and interest in the call today and look forward to speaking to you again later in the year. Good day.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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